Stronger between lagna and moon- how to determine

[Guest guest]

Dear Kamal,

 

As Ravindramani noted earlier, it's normal practice to consider both when

looking at a horoscope.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

-

" Vedic Learner " <sightsolutions

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, January 07, 2008 5:59 PM

Stronger between lagna and moon- how to determine

 

 

Dear Wendy Jee and elders,

 

I have read at few places for results see which is stronger between lagna or

moon then depending on there strength take one as fist house. How to

determine that. please explain.

 

regards

 

Kamal

 

 

[Guest guest]

For me too, I consider both the Lagnas, and

at times find the Moon Lagna much better in

predicting results corresponding with the actual

hapennings in my own life, though the Moon Lagna

in my case is weaker.

 

The South Indians in India who consider the Moon

Lagna as more important, do not thus do

it without cause. They have centuries of experience

before them for their doing so.

 

Whatever new approaches one may learn, I have

to always say that the Traditional Approach of

Vedic astrology always stands out the best for

encompassing one and all, and has logical

reasonings and inputs for,

whatever happens in the Life

of any or each native in this world.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Dear Kamal,

>

> As Ravindramani noted earlier, it's normal practice to consider

both when

> looking at a horoscope.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " Vedic Learner " <sightsolutions

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Monday, January 07, 2008 5:59 PM

> Stronger between lagna and moon- how to

determine

>

>

> Dear Wendy Jee and elders,

>

> I have read at few places for results see which is stronger

between lagna or

> moon then depending on there strength take one as fist house. How

to

> determine that. please explain.

>

> regards

>

> Kamal

>

>

[Guest guest]

There are number of other reasons why a chart should be seen from the

position of Chandra. Shri Mantreshwara in his " Phal Deepika "

instructs us " Chandra Lagnam Pradhanam " – meaning thereby there are

other lagnas available, among them Chandra Lagna is the best.

 

Every action of a man emanates first from " mind " in a thought form.

The psychology of a man is nothing but the collection of " thoughts " .

The collection of thoughts is otherwise known, as per Jatak Parijat,

the " Chitta " or the Manas " . This " Chitta " or the " Manas " is

represented by " Moon " in a chart. All students of astrology are well

aware the mind is represented by Moon.

 

Hence if we want to know a person, his attitude, his thinking and

subsequently how he would behave in a given situation, the best

option available with us is the Chandra Lagna. This is one of the

main reasons why a chart should be viewed from Moon also.

 

Another important reason why a chart should be analyzed from Moon

invariably is that Moon is directly related to longevity. Any

affliction to the Moon leads to Balarishta. See the Kendras from

Moon. If they are well fortified, there is no worry about the health

of the new born child. One should first ascertain the longevity of

the native. Without having enough longevity at hand, thinking and

analyzing the yogas present in a chart is of no use.

 

The purity of Moon in a chart denotes the stage of evolution of the

person concerned. The purity of Moon denotes the purity of mind of a

person. " Blessed are the pure in Heart for they shall see God " so

says the Bible.

 

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

[Guest guest]

Dear Ravindramani,

 

Why do astrologers take D1 chart based on ascendant for arriving at the

divisional charts. Is there any information on adivisional charts based on

Chandra lagna? As a general rule for prediction, we give equal no. of points for

D1 & D9 and then may be 1/6th for other divisional charts. Is this correct, do

you have any other observation.

 

Rgds,

Viveka

 

 

 

ravindramani <ravindramani

jyotish-vidya

Wednesday, January 9, 2008 4:57:16 PM

Re: Stronger between lagna and moon- how to determine

 

 

There are number of other reasons why a chart should be seen from the

position of Chandra. Shri Mantreshwara in his " Phal Deepika "

instructs us " Chandra Lagnam Pradhanam " – meaning thereby there are

other lagnas available, among them Chandra Lagna is the best.

 

Every action of a man emanates first from " mind " in a thought form.

The psychology of a man is nothing but the collection of " thoughts " .

The collection of thoughts is otherwise known, as per Jatak Parijat,

the " Chitta " or the Manas " . This " Chitta " or the " Manas " is

represented by " Moon " in a chart. All students of astrology are well

aware the mind is represented by Moon.

 

Hence if we want to know a person, his attitude, his thinking and

subsequently how he would behave in a given situation, the best

option available with us is the Chandra Lagna. This is one of the

main reasons why a chart should be viewed from Moon also.

 

Another important reason why a chart should be analyzed from Moon

invariably is that Moon is directly related to longevity. Any

affliction to the Moon leads to Balarishta. See the Kendras from

Moon. If they are well fortified, there is no worry about the health

of the new born child. One should first ascertain the longevity of

the native. Without having enough longevity at hand, thinking and

analyzing the yogas present in a chart is of no use.

 

The purity of Moon in a chart denotes the stage of evolution of the

person concerned. The purity of Moon denotes the purity of mind of a

person. " Blessed are the pure in Heart for they shall see God " so

says the Bible.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Kamal,

 

It would be quite logical to assume Moon to be the stronger when T.O.B.

(lagna) is in doubt. Most certainly, in days of old, time keeping (in rural

areas particularly) was unreliable...

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

-

" Vedic Learner " <sightsolutions

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, January 07, 2008 5:59 PM

Stronger between lagna and moon- how to determine

 

 

Dear Wendy Jee and elders,

 

I have read at few places for results see which is stronger between lagna or

moon then depending on there strength take one as fist house. How to

determine that. please explain.

 

regards

 

Kamal

 

 

[Guest guest]

Friends,

 

A thought crossed in my mind which reveals the

the confirmation that Lagna or the Ascendant chart is

actually the most important of all the charts on

which these other charts are made.

The Moon Chart though a very important chart,but is

not the final authority, because it reveals the

Mental side, and not the physical side represented

by the Ascendant Chart .

The mind may say and wish many things, but

physical body may not be allowed to

adhere to these wishes, some of which

may not be right. the demrcation lines of these

wishes to be translated into actual hapennings

of the natives Life, are drwan by the Ascendant

or Birth Lagna Chart.

 

The indications may be seen from the Moon Chart,

though.

 

The thought which crossed my mind , was that

The Birth Ascendant Charts reveals much and

a concentrated form of the Natives Life, and

holds more information about the Individual

since it is made just for the particular

Time frame of 1 and a half to 2 hours.

 

The Moon Chart would remain same for 2 and a half

days in one sign ( Am I thinking right ? Because

by the end of the day my energy gets sapped up ).

Which means that Lakhs of people would be born with

same temparement ? Sounds not very much logical.

 

While the Lagna chart as I said previously,

being available only for a short

time should be a rather much better indicator.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Dear Viveka,

>

> I'm sure Ravindramani won't mind if I offer my comments on this...

>

> Rasi chart is the one and only true birth chart defining our

destiny at the

> time of birth and all other (secondary charts) are calculated from

this

> chart - they are, after all, divisional charts i.e. divisions of

Rasi.

>

> Moon chart is extremely important (for the reasons Ravindramani

gave

> earlier) and importantly, in instances where a T.O.B. is unknown,

taking

> Moon as lagna can reveal a great deal. The rishis tell us that,

for spouse,

> we would look at the horoscope using Venus as lagna... and so

forth for all

> the significators (karakas).

>

> We would, of course, read Rasi in the normal manner but also give

due

> consideration to each karaka for greater understanding.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " viveka ragu " <vivekaragu

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:53 PM

> Re: Re: Stronger between lagna and moon-

how to

> determine

>

>

> Dear Ravindramani,

>

> Why do astrologers take D1 chart based on ascendant for arriving

at the

> divisional charts. Is there any information on adivisional charts

based on

> Chandra lagna? As a general rule for prediction, we give equal no.

of points

> for D1 & D9 and then may be 1/6th for other divisional charts. Is

this

> correct, do you have any other observation.

>

> Rgds,

> Viveka

>

>

>

> ravindramani <ravindramani

> jyotish-vidya

> Wednesday, January 9, 2008 4:57:16 PM

> Re: Stronger between lagna and moon- how

to

> determine

>

>

> There are number of other reasons why a chart should be seen from

the

> position of Chandra. Shri Mantreshwara in his " Phal Deepika "

> instructs us " Chandra Lagnam Pradhanam " - meaning thereby there are

> other lagnas available, among them Chandra Lagna is the best.

>

> Every action of a man emanates first from " mind " in a thought form.

> The psychology of a man is nothing but the collection

of " thoughts " .

> The collection of thoughts is otherwise known, as per Jatak

Parijat,

> the " Chitta " or the Manas " . This " Chitta " or the " Manas " is

> represented by " Moon " in a chart. All students of astrology are

well

> aware the mind is represented by Moon.

>

> Hence if we want to know a person, his attitude, his thinking and

> subsequently how he would behave in a given situation, the best

> option available with us is the Chandra Lagna. This is one of the

> main reasons why a chart should be viewed from Moon also.

>

> Another important reason why a chart should be analyzed from Moon

> invariably is that Moon is directly related to longevity. Any

> affliction to the Moon leads to Balarishta. See the Kendras from

> Moon. If they are well fortified, there is no worry about the

health

> of the new born child. One should first ascertain the longevity of

> the native. Without having enough longevity at hand, thinking and

> analyzing the yogas present in a chart is of no use.

>

> The purity of Moon in a chart denotes the stage of evolution of the

> person concerned. The purity of Moon denotes the purity of mind of

a

> person. " Blessed are the pure in Heart for they shall see God " so

> says the Bible.

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ms. Savithri,

 

Rahu and Saturn both are defined as malefics. Technically and

strictly speaking, when Moon is with Rahu or Moon is with Saturn it

is an affliction. So is the case when Moon is aspected by Saturn.

In my view, first consideration is Lagna. Lagna defines the lord

ship of Saturn and Moon. Second important consideration is

the " signification " which is under examination.

 

Moon is a luminary. Moon stands for eyes. When Moon is afflicted

either by Rahu or Saturn, the simple conclusion one would arrive at

is – there could be some problem with one of the eyes. It is an

affliction.

 

Take Cancer Lagna. Place Moon in Ascendant. Locate Saturn in 4th

house. Consider the dignity of the two planets now. The lagna lord

is in his own house. Exalted Saturn, the 7th lord of " public image

and position " is in 4th house of " masses " Saturn connects the 6th

house of elections, tenth house of power and authority, and lagna -

the individual as well as the lagna lord. The individual is one of

the successful and charismatic politicians of a biggest democracy.

Now it is not an affliction. The purpose for which the planets are

being examined, that decides the conjunction or the aspect is an

affliction or otherwise.

 

Now one should not forget the Saturn rules the 8th too. The results

pertaining to that house would also materialize in the appropriate

periods. Further one should not come to a conclusion without the

other forces operating in a chart. In order to explain my way of

looking at a combination to you, I placed only two planets and

omitted the other placements.

 

Take the charts of yogis. There would invariably Moon is influenced

by Saturn in one way or the other. When Moon is aspected by Saturn,

the " vairagya " the determination manifests in a chart. That is one

of the basic qualities of a yogi.

 

Take the charts of doctors or the lunatics. There you would find the

influence of Saturn on Moon. It is the " signification " that is

important. The difference is how (the role of a plaent), from where

(the house) and from which Rasi the relationship takes place.

 

When I consider Moon is the reference point that is from the Moon,

Jupiter is placed in sixth house means it is " chandradhi yoga " . So

is the case when Jupiter is placed in the eighth house from Moon. In

both cases Jupiter is supporting the Moon and influences the 2nd and

the 12th from Moon. It is an indication of inheritance generally.

 

When I consider Jupiter as the reference point that is from Jupiter,

Moon is placed in sixth house or in eighth house it is Sakata Yoga.

(Of course when one planet is in the 8th from other, by default the

other would occupy the 6th only). There is a transit rule that says

whenever the transit of Moon from radical Jupiter, the native

undergoes some sort of misfortunes. This position indicates " ups and

downs " in a person's life. We know the frequency in which Moon

transits from radical Jupiter in a given chart. Hence one should not

come to any firm conclusion merely looking at a single combination.

Any result is based on dasha. The chart should be seen in totality.

Hope this would help you to some extent.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

[Guest guest]

Dear (Ms or Mr)Viveka,

 

Mrs. Wendy, has already responded to your message in regard to

arriving at the divisional charts. I follow the weightage scheme

given by Sage Parashara to the Sadvarga and Saptavarga and other

vargas etc.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

PS: Certain obvious reasons, I have not written complete information

which I was taught and know, how and why the chandra lagna is used in

certain circumstances or the ways to analyse a chart from making Moon

as a reference point or treating it as Lagna. I sincerely apologise

for that.

 

 

jyotish-vidya , viveka ragu <vivekaragu

wrote:

>

> Dear Ravindramani,

>

> Why do astrologers take D1 chart based on ascendant for arriving at

the divisional charts. Is there any information on adivisional

charts based on Chandra lagna? As a general rule for prediction, we

give equal no. of points for D1 & D9 and then may be 1/6th for other

divisional charts. Is this correct, do you have any other observation.

>

> Rgds,

> Viveka

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ravindramani,

 

///PS: Certain obvious reasons, I have not written complete information

which I was taught and know, how and why the chandra lagna is used in

certain circumstances or the ways to analyse a chart from making Moon

as a reference point or treating it as Lagna. I sincerely apologise

for that.///

 

Please say what you wish... You make it sound as though you're not permitted

to openly share what you know with others here. An inference can have the

same effect as an accusation... so do please come out with what you want to

say.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

-

" ravindramani " <ravindramani

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, January 11, 2008 1:17 AM

Re: Stronger between lagna and moon- how to

determine

 

 

Dear (Ms or Mr)Viveka,

 

Mrs. Wendy, has already responded to your message in regard to

arriving at the divisional charts. I follow the weightage scheme

given by Sage Parashara to the Sadvarga and Saptavarga and other

vargas etc.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

PS: Certain obvious reasons, I have not written complete information

which I was taught and know, how and why the chandra lagna is used in

certain circumstances or the ways to analyse a chart from making Moon

as a reference point or treating it as Lagna. I sincerely apologise

for that.

[Guest guest]

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

I know pretty well the List or the moderators have never put any

restriction on me or on my /views/obersevations.

 

I am sorry for that as my PS has given such an inference.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindamani.

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Dear Ravindramani,

>

> ///PS: Certain obvious reasons, I have not written complete

information

> which I was taught and know, how and why the chandra lagna is used

in

> certain circumstances or the ways to analyse a chart from making

Moon

> as a reference point or treating it as Lagna. I sincerely apologise

> for that.///

>

> Please say what you wish... You make it sound as though you're not

permitted

> to openly share what you know with others here. An inference can

have the

> same effect as an accusation... so do please come out with what you

want to

> say.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " ravindramani " <ravindramani

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Friday, January 11, 2008 1:17 AM

> Re: Stronger between lagna and moon- how

to

> determine

>

>

> Dear (Ms or Mr)Viveka,

>

> Mrs. Wendy, has already responded to your message in regard to

> arriving at the divisional charts. I follow the weightage scheme

> given by Sage Parashara to the Sadvarga and Saptavarga and other

> vargas etc.

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

>

> PS: Certain obvious reasons, I have not written complete information

> which I was taught and know, how and why the chandra lagna is used

in

> certain circumstances or the ways to analyse a chart from making

Moon

> as a reference point or treating it as Lagna. I sincerely apologise

> for that.

>

[Guest guest]

so much to learn from you on internet, Ravindramaniji ;-)

 

Thanks!

 

-

ravindramani

jyotish-vidya

Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:49 PM

Re: Stronger between lagna and moon- how to determine

 

 

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

I know pretty well the List or the moderators have never put any

restriction on me or on my /views/obersevations.

 

I am sorry for that as my PS has given such an inference.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindamani.

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Dear Ravindramani,

>

> ///PS: Certain obvious reasons, I have not written complete

information

> which I was taught and know, how and why the chandra lagna is used

in

> certain circumstances or the ways to analyse a chart from making

Moon

> as a reference point or treating it as Lagna. I sincerely apologise

> for that.///

>

> Please say what you wish... You make it sound as though you're not

permitted

> to openly share what you know with others here. An inference can

have the

> same effect as an accusation... so do please come out with what you

want to

> say.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " ravindramani " <ravindramani

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Friday, January 11, 2008 1:17 AM

> Re: Stronger between lagna and moon- how

to

> determine

>

>

> Dear (Ms or Mr)Viveka,

>

> Mrs. Wendy, has already responded to your message in regard to

> arriving at the divisional charts. I follow the weightage scheme

> given by Sage Parashara to the Sadvarga and Saptavarga and other

> vargas etc.

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

>

> PS: Certain obvious reasons, I have not written complete information

> which I was taught and know, how and why the chandra lagna is used

in

> certain circumstances or the ways to analyse a chart from making

Moon

> as a reference point or treating it as Lagna. I sincerely apologise

> for that.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr Ravindramani

 

I thank you at the outset for your detailed and analytical reply.

 

The aspect of Saturn on moon in a saint's chart gives vairagya. I have also

come across another view which says that the combination of saturn and ketu

gives the native a sense of detachment.

 

regards

savithri

 

ravindramani <ravindramani wrote:

Dear Ms. Savithri,

 

Rahu and Saturn both are defined as malefics. Technically and

strictly speaking, when Moon is with Rahu or Moon is with Saturn it

is an affliction. So is the case when Moon is aspected by Saturn.

In my view, first consideration is Lagna. Lagna defines the lord

ship of Saturn and Moon. Second important consideration is

the " signification " which is under examination.

 

Moon is a luminary. Moon stands for eyes. When Moon is afflicted

either by Rahu or Saturn, the simple conclusion one would arrive at

is – there could be some problem with one of the eyes. It is an

affliction.

 

Take Cancer Lagna. Place Moon in Ascendant. Locate Saturn in 4th

house. Consider the dignity of the two planets now. The lagna lord

is in his own house. Exalted Saturn, the 7th lord of " public image

and position " is in 4th house of " masses " Saturn connects the 6th

house of elections, tenth house of power and authority, and lagna -

the individual as well as the lagna lord. The individual is one of

the successful and charismatic politicians of a biggest democracy.

Now it is not an affliction. The purpose for which the planets are

being examined, that decides the conjunction or the aspect is an

affliction or otherwise.

 

Now one should not forget the Saturn rules the 8th too. The results

pertaining to that house would also materialize in the appropriate

periods. Further one should not come to a conclusion without the

other forces operating in a chart. In order to explain my way of

looking at a combination to you, I placed only two planets and

omitted the other placements.

 

Take the charts of yogis. There would invariably Moon is influenced

by Saturn in one way or the other. When Moon is aspected by Saturn,

the " vairagya " the determination manifests in a chart. That is one

of the basic qualities of a yogi.

 

Take the charts of doctors or the lunatics. There you would find the

influence of Saturn on Moon. It is the " signification " that is

important. The difference is how (the role of a plaent), from where

(the house) and from which Rasi the relationship takes place.

 

When I consider Moon is the reference point that is from the Moon,

Jupiter is placed in sixth house means it is " chandradhi yoga " . So

is the case when Jupiter is placed in the eighth house from Moon. In

both cases Jupiter is supporting the Moon and influences the 2nd and

the 12th from Moon. It is an indication of inheritance generally.

 

When I consider Jupiter as the reference point that is from Jupiter,

Moon is placed in sixth house or in eighth house it is Sakata Yoga.

(Of course when one planet is in the 8th from other, by default the

other would occupy the 6th only). There is a transit rule that says

whenever the transit of Moon from radical Jupiter, the native

undergoes some sort of misfortunes. This position indicates " ups and

downs " in a person's life. We know the frequency in which Moon

transits from radical Jupiter in a given chart. Hence one should not

come to any firm conclusion merely looking at a single combination.

Any result is based on dasha. The chart should be seen in totality.

Hope this would help you to some extent.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Friends,

 

Specially if the Moon is in the 4th or

Saturn is in the 4th, and one of them being

the 12th Lord, Vairagya or detachment is bound

to take place.It may be forced due to conditions

prevailing at Homefront.

 

regards,

bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH

<savithri_mahesh2000 wrote:

>

> Dear Mr Ravindramani

>

> I thank you at the outset for your detailed and analytical reply.

>

> The aspect of Saturn on moon in a saint's chart gives vairagya.

I have also come across another view which says that the combination

of saturn and ketu gives the native a sense of detachment.

>

> regards

> savithri

>

> ravindramani <ravindramani wrote:

> Dear Ms. Savithri,

>

> Rahu and Saturn both are defined as malefics. Technically and

> strictly speaking, when Moon is with Rahu or Moon is with Saturn

it

> is an affliction. So is the case when Moon is aspected by Saturn.

> In my view, first consideration is Lagna. Lagna defines the lord

> ship of Saturn and Moon. Second important consideration is

> the " signification " which is under examination.

>

> Moon is a luminary. Moon stands for eyes. When Moon is afflicted

> either by Rahu or Saturn, the simple conclusion one would arrive

at

> is – there could be some problem with one of the eyes. It is an

> affliction.

>

> Take Cancer Lagna. Place Moon in Ascendant. Locate Saturn in 4th

> house. Consider the dignity of the two planets now. The lagna lord

> is in his own house. Exalted Saturn, the 7th lord of " public image

> and position " is in 4th house of " masses " Saturn connects the 6th

> house of elections, tenth house of power and authority, and lagna -

 

> the individual as well as the lagna lord. The individual is one of

> the successful and charismatic politicians of a biggest democracy.

> Now it is not an affliction. The purpose for which the planets are

> being examined, that decides the conjunction or the aspect is an

> affliction or otherwise.

>

> Now one should not forget the Saturn rules the 8th too. The

results

> pertaining to that house would also materialize in the appropriate

> periods. Further one should not come to a conclusion without the

> other forces operating in a chart. In order to explain my way of

> looking at a combination to you, I placed only two planets and

> omitted the other placements.

>

> Take the charts of yogis. There would invariably Moon is

influenced

> by Saturn in one way or the other. When Moon is aspected by

Saturn,

> the " vairagya " the determination manifests in a chart. That is one

> of the basic qualities of a yogi.

>

> Take the charts of doctors or the lunatics. There you would find

the

> influence of Saturn on Moon. It is the " signification " that is

> important. The difference is how (the role of a plaent), from

where

> (the house) and from which Rasi the relationship takes place.

>

> When I consider Moon is the reference point that is from the Moon,

> Jupiter is placed in sixth house means it is " chandradhi yoga " . So

> is the case when Jupiter is placed in the eighth house from Moon.

In

> both cases Jupiter is supporting the Moon and influences the 2nd

and

> the 12th from Moon. It is an indication of inheritance generally.

>

> When I consider Jupiter as the reference point that is from

Jupiter,

> Moon is placed in sixth house or in eighth house it is Sakata

Yoga.

> (Of course when one planet is in the 8th from other, by default

the

> other would occupy the 6th only). There is a transit rule that

says

> whenever the transit of Moon from radical Jupiter, the native

> undergoes some sort of misfortunes. This position indicates " ups

and

> downs " in a person's life. We know the frequency in which Moon

> transits from radical Jupiter in a given chart. Hence one should

not

> come to any firm conclusion merely looking at a single

combination.

> Any result is based on dasha. The chart should be seen in

totality.

> Hope this would help you to some extent.

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

Mobile. Try it now.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

You have given an interesting combination for me. I have Saturn in the 4th and

Moon is the 12th lord. Saturn and Moon are in samasaptaka - almost exact -

Satrun in the 26th degree and Moon in the 28th degree.

 

I am looking forward to the period when I could get true detachment from the

fruits of my actions. Do you think Sat-Moon period would encourage such

thoughts?

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Dear Friends,

 

Specially if the Moon is in the 4th or

Saturn is in the 4th, and one of them being

the 12th Lord, Vairagya or detachment is bound

to take place.It may be forced due to conditions

prevailing at Homefront.

 

regards,

bhaskar.

 

jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH

<savithri_mahesh2000 wrote:

>

> Dear Mr Ravindramani

>

> I thank you at the outset for your detailed and analytical reply.

>

> The aspect of Saturn on moon in a saint's chart gives vairagya.

I have also come across another view which says that the combination

of saturn and ketu gives the native a sense of detachment.

>

> regards

> savithri

>

> ravindramani <ravindramani wrote:

> Dear Ms. Savithri,

>

> Rahu and Saturn both are defined as malefics. Technically and

> strictly speaking, when Moon is with Rahu or Moon is with Saturn

it

> is an affliction. So is the case when Moon is aspected by Saturn.

> In my view, first consideration is Lagna. Lagna defines the lord

> ship of Saturn and Moon. Second important consideration is

> the " signification " which is under examination.

>

> Moon is a luminary. Moon stands for eyes. When Moon is afflicted

> either by Rahu or Saturn, the simple conclusion one would arrive

at

> is – there could be some problem with one of the eyes. It is an

> affliction.

>

> Take Cancer Lagna. Place Moon in Ascendant. Locate Saturn in 4th

> house. Consider the dignity of the two planets now. The lagna lord

> is in his own house. Exalted Saturn, the 7th lord of " public image

> and position " is in 4th house of " masses " Saturn connects the 6th

> house of elections, tenth house of power and authority, and lagna -

 

> the individual as well as the lagna lord. The individual is one of

> the successful and charismatic politicians of a biggest democracy.

> Now it is not an affliction. The purpose for which the planets are

> being examined, that decides the conjunction or the aspect is an

> affliction or otherwise.

>

> Now one should not forget the Saturn rules the 8th too. The

results

> pertaining to that house would also materialize in the appropriate

> periods. Further one should not come to a conclusion without the

> other forces operating in a chart. In order to explain my way of

> looking at a combination to you, I placed only two planets and

> omitted the other placements.

>

> Take the charts of yogis. There would invariably Moon is

influenced

> by Saturn in one way or the other. When Moon is aspected by

Saturn,

> the " vairagya " the determination manifests in a chart. That is one

> of the basic qualities of a yogi.

>

> Take the charts of doctors or the lunatics. There you would find

the

> influence of Saturn on Moon. It is the " signification " that is

> important. The difference is how (the role of a plaent), from

where

> (the house) and from which Rasi the relationship takes place.

>

> When I consider Moon is the reference point that is from the Moon,

> Jupiter is placed in sixth house means it is " chandradhi yoga " . So

> is the case when Jupiter is placed in the eighth house from Moon.

In

> both cases Jupiter is supporting the Moon and influences the 2nd

and

> the 12th from Moon. It is an indication of inheritance generally.

>

> When I consider Jupiter as the reference point that is from

Jupiter,

> Moon is placed in sixth house or in eighth house it is Sakata

Yoga.

> (Of course when one planet is in the 8th from other, by default

the

> other would occupy the 6th only). There is a transit rule that

says

> whenever the transit of Moon from radical Jupiter, the native

> undergoes some sort of misfortunes. This position indicates " ups

and

> downs " in a person's life. We know the frequency in which Moon

> transits from radical Jupiter in a given chart. Hence one should

not

> come to any firm conclusion merely looking at a single

combination.

> Any result is based on dasha. The chart should be seen in

totality.

> Hope this would help you to some extent.

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

Mobile. Try it now.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishnamurthyji,

 

Myself talking about Your goodselfs chart would

mean showing a Candle to the SunLight. But

I will write what I observe.

 

Both these planets though in 4th house would

make You like Janaka. Detachment from inside

but living like a Grihasta sanyaasi.

This is because both placed in Star of

Mercury representing 2nd (Family togetherness

and consequent happiness)alongwith 11th ,

(gains from same). A litle modification would

depend on the placement of Mercury. In any

case you would be a person who learns to adjust

with the family and partners demands, and

smilingly continues......(Saturn with Moon).

Your mind would already be into such thoughts

and the futility of Filial Love, and futility

of running after materialistic ends.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> You have given an interesting combination for me. I have Saturn

in the 4th and Moon is the 12th lord. Saturn and Moon are in

samasaptaka - almost exact - Satrun in the 26th degree and Moon in

the 28th degree.

>

> I am looking forward to the period when I could get true

detachment from the fruits of my actions. Do you think Sat-Moon

period would encourage such thoughts?

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear Friends,

>

> Specially if the Moon is in the 4th or

> Saturn is in the 4th, and one of them being

> the 12th Lord, Vairagya or detachment is bound

> to take place.It may be forced due to conditions

> prevailing at Homefront.

>

> regards,

> bhaskar.

>

> jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH

> <savithri_mahesh2000@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr Ravindramani

> >

> > I thank you at the outset for your detailed and analytical reply.

> >

> > The aspect of Saturn on moon in a saint's chart gives vairagya.

> I have also come across another view which says that the

combination

> of saturn and ketu gives the native a sense of detachment.

> >

> > regards

> > savithri

> >

> > ravindramani <ravindramani@> wrote:

> > Dear Ms. Savithri,

> >

> > Rahu and Saturn both are defined as malefics. Technically and

> > strictly speaking, when Moon is with Rahu or Moon is with Saturn

> it

> > is an affliction. So is the case when Moon is aspected by

Saturn.

> > In my view, first consideration is Lagna. Lagna defines the lord

> > ship of Saturn and Moon. Second important consideration is

> > the " signification " which is under examination.

> >

> > Moon is a luminary. Moon stands for eyes. When Moon is afflicted

> > either by Rahu or Saturn, the simple conclusion one would arrive

> at

> > is – there could be some problem with one of the eyes. It is an

> > affliction.

> >

> > Take Cancer Lagna. Place Moon in Ascendant. Locate Saturn in 4th

> > house. Consider the dignity of the two planets now. The lagna

lord

> > is in his own house. Exalted Saturn, the 7th lord of " public

image

> > and position " is in 4th house of " masses " Saturn connects the

6th

> > house of elections, tenth house of power and authority, and

lagna -

>

> > the individual as well as the lagna lord. The individual is one

of

> > the successful and charismatic politicians of a biggest

democracy.

> > Now it is not an affliction. The purpose for which the planets

are

> > being examined, that decides the conjunction or the aspect is an

> > affliction or otherwise.

> >

> > Now one should not forget the Saturn rules the 8th too. The

> results

> > pertaining to that house would also materialize in the

appropriate

> > periods. Further one should not come to a conclusion without the

> > other forces operating in a chart. In order to explain my way of

> > looking at a combination to you, I placed only two planets and

> > omitted the other placements.

> >

> > Take the charts of yogis. There would invariably Moon is

> influenced

> > by Saturn in one way or the other. When Moon is aspected by

> Saturn,

> > the " vairagya " the determination manifests in a chart. That is

one

> > of the basic qualities of a yogi.

> >

> > Take the charts of doctors or the lunatics. There you would find

> the

> > influence of Saturn on Moon. It is the " signification " that is

> > important. The difference is how (the role of a plaent), from

> where

> > (the house) and from which Rasi the relationship takes place.

> >

> > When I consider Moon is the reference point that is from the

Moon,

> > Jupiter is placed in sixth house means it is " chandradhi yoga " .

So

> > is the case when Jupiter is placed in the eighth house from

Moon.

> In

> > both cases Jupiter is supporting the Moon and influences the 2nd

> and

> > the 12th from Moon. It is an indication of inheritance

generally.

> >

> > When I consider Jupiter as the reference point that is from

> Jupiter,

> > Moon is placed in sixth house or in eighth house it is Sakata

> Yoga.

> > (Of course when one planet is in the 8th from other, by default

> the

> > other would occupy the 6th only). There is a transit rule that

> says

> > whenever the transit of Moon from radical Jupiter, the native

> > undergoes some sort of misfortunes. This position indicates " ups

> and

> > downs " in a person's life. We know the frequency in which Moon

> > transits from radical Jupiter in a given chart. Hence one should

> not

> > come to any firm conclusion merely looking at a single

> combination.

> > Any result is based on dasha. The chart should be seen in

> totality.

> > Hope this would help you to some extent.

> >

> > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

> Mobile. Try it now.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

Please don't put me at a high elevation. I am still in the process of climbing

and have a long way to go :-)

 

Looks like there is a small confusion, could have been caused due to my

wording. In my chart, Moon and Saturn are almost in exact Opposition. Satrun is

in Mercury nakshatra, Mercury is placed in Lagna. Since you refer to bhava

chalit, I would like to let you know that Mercury moves to 12th in the Bhava

chalit chart. Moon is in yogakaraka Mars's nakshatra (in Taurus). Mars is placed

in the 10th along with Moon (also opposing Sat). Mercury moves to 9th in Bhava

chalit. Will this placement change what you have said already?

 

The easiest way for you to look at my chart, instead of imagining my chart

through my explanation.

 

DOB: Sep. 7, 1958

TOB: 6:15 am

POB: Bangalore, India

 

What I see that the owner of 4th sign in the natural zodiac is in the 10th

house and owner of the 10th sign in the natural zodiac is in the 4th house in my

chart. Can this be considered as some kind of parivartana? I have not read many

classics and hence the question.

 

Please do clarify.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Dear Krishnamurthyji,

 

Myself talking about Your goodselfs chart would

mean showing a Candle to the SunLight. But

I will write what I observe.

 

Both these planets though in 4th house would

make You like Janaka. Detachment from inside

but living like a Grihasta sanyaasi.

This is because both placed in Star of

Mercury representing 2nd (Family togetherness

and consequent happiness)alongwith 11th ,

(gains from same). A litle modification would

depend on the placement of Mercury. In any

case you would be a person who learns to adjust

with the family and partners demands, and

smilingly continues......(Saturn with Moon).

Your mind would already be into such thoughts

and the futility of Filial Love, and futility

of running after materialistic ends.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> You have given an interesting combination for me. I have Saturn

in the 4th and Moon is the 12th lord. Saturn and Moon are in

samasaptaka - almost exact - Satrun in the 26th degree and Moon in

the 28th degree.

>

> I am looking forward to the period when I could get true

detachment from the fruits of my actions. Do you think Sat-Moon

period would encourage such thoughts?

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear Friends,

>

> Specially if the Moon is in the 4th or

> Saturn is in the 4th, and one of them being

> the 12th Lord, Vairagya or detachment is bound

> to take place.It may be forced due to conditions

> prevailing at Homefront.

>

> regards,

> bhaskar.

>

> jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH

> <savithri_mahesh2000@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr Ravindramani

> >

> > I thank you at the outset for your detailed and analytical reply.

> >

> > The aspect of Saturn on moon in a saint's chart gives vairagya.

> I have also come across another view which says that the

combination

> of saturn and ketu gives the native a sense of detachment.

> >

> > regards

> > savithri

> >

> > ravindramani <ravindramani@> wrote:

> > Dear Ms. Savithri,

> >

> > Rahu and Saturn both are defined as malefics. Technically and

> > strictly speaking, when Moon is with Rahu or Moon is with Saturn

> it

> > is an affliction. So is the case when Moon is aspected by

Saturn.

> > In my view, first consideration is Lagna. Lagna defines the lord

> > ship of Saturn and Moon. Second important consideration is

> > the " signification " which is under examination.

> >

> > Moon is a luminary. Moon stands for eyes. When Moon is afflicted

> > either by Rahu or Saturn, the simple conclusion one would arrive

> at

> > is – there could be some problem with one of the eyes. It is an

> > affliction.

> >

> > Take Cancer Lagna. Place Moon in Ascendant. Locate Saturn in 4th

> > house. Consider the dignity of the two planets now. The lagna

lord

> > is in his own house. Exalted Saturn, the 7th lord of " public

image

> > and position " is in 4th house of " masses " Saturn connects the

6th

> > house of elections, tenth house of power and authority, and

lagna -

>

> > the individual as well as the lagna lord. The individual is one

of

> > the successful and charismatic politicians of a biggest

democracy.

> > Now it is not an affliction. The purpose for which the planets

are

> > being examined, that decides the conjunction or the aspect is an

> > affliction or otherwise.

> >

> > Now one should not forget the Saturn rules the 8th too. The

> results

> > pertaining to that house would also materialize in the

appropriate

> > periods. Further one should not come to a conclusion without the

> > other forces operating in a chart. In order to explain my way of

> > looking at a combination to you, I placed only two planets and

> > omitted the other placements.

> >

> > Take the charts of yogis. There would invariably Moon is

> influenced

> > by Saturn in one way or the other. When Moon is aspected by

> Saturn,

> > the " vairagya " the determination manifests in a chart. That is

one

> > of the basic qualities of a yogi.

> >

> > Take the charts of doctors or the lunatics. There you would find

> the

> > influence of Saturn on Moon. It is the " signification " that is

> > important. The difference is how (the role of a plaent), from

> where

> > (the house) and from which Rasi the relationship takes place.

> >

> > When I consider Moon is the reference point that is from the

Moon,

> > Jupiter is placed in sixth house means it is " chandradhi yoga " .

So

> > is the case when Jupiter is placed in the eighth house from

Moon.

> In

> > both cases Jupiter is supporting the Moon and influences the 2nd

> and

> > the 12th from Moon. It is an indication of inheritance

generally.

> >

> > When I consider Jupiter as the reference point that is from

> Jupiter,

> > Moon is placed in sixth house or in eighth house it is Sakata

> Yoga.

> > (Of course when one planet is in the 8th from other, by default

> the

> > other would occupy the 6th only). There is a transit rule that

> says

> > whenever the transit of Moon from radical Jupiter, the native

> > undergoes some sort of misfortunes. This position indicates " ups

> and

> > downs " in a person's life. We know the frequency in which Moon

> > transits from radical Jupiter in a given chart. Hence one should

> not

> > come to any firm conclusion merely looking at a single

> combination.

> > Any result is based on dasha. The chart should be seen in

> totality.

> > Hope this would help you to some extent.

> >

> > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

> Mobile. Try it now.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna ji,

 

Well I am sorry about the mix up and thought they

were in conjunction (Moon and Saturn). But,

I am not sorry about praising you. I do value your

astrological knowledge.

 

Saturn mahadasha would predominantly give returns

financial, through Longterm investments and landed

properties, if invested in. but the togetherness

part in the family which I mentioned would be

eroded to a great extent.

 

The Moon antardasha has the potential to take you to

great heights in research and academic achievemnets,

since it signifies 4th, 9th and the 9th again,

which is two times 9th.

What the 9th house means , related to Dharmic

activities, I need not relate to you.

 

This change as I mentioned in my last mail,

would now be reinforced strongly, but with

a much greater dispassionate thought

process inside you, which has already started

with the current Surya antardasha.

Because Mars aspecting the 4th

house. A Cold Moon aspecting the already

cold Saturn in the 4th house.

Moon being Lord of denial and causing

seperatative aspects on 4th would definitely

bring in the Vairagya from Domestic Life and

Home, and turn you into a totally dedicated person

devoted to social service and work, talking in

todays context, as Grihasta going to Jungle for

Sanyaas is a outdated term now.

 

Did you have some long journey in this Surya

antardasha, to some foreign country ? or

thid may come in next antardasha.

 

But did you sell some old residence or give

any property on hire to anyone ?

Any land dealings ?Any Loss in same ?

 

But but whatever it may be, You would be

operating 4th, 9th and 12th houses significations

in the Moon antardasha.Learning, teaching,

Serving.

 

Saturn would be touching the Lagna degree as

also the Lagna Lord degreecally around

May 2009 would accentuate this. ( I

mean the Vairagya)

This would be in the Moon antardasha.

 

By the way, Your Horoscope has PhD type

combinations many times over periodically

in your Life.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> Please don't put me at a high elevation. I am still in the

process of climbing and have a long way to go :-)

>

> Looks like there is a small confusion, could have been caused

due to my wording. In my chart, Moon and Saturn are almost in exact

Opposition. Satrun is in Mercury nakshatra, Mercury is placed in

Lagna. Since you refer to bhava chalit, I would like to let you know

that Mercury moves to 12th in the Bhava chalit chart. Moon is in

yogakaraka Mars's nakshatra (in Taurus). Mars is placed in the 10th

along with Moon (also opposing Sat). Mercury moves to 9th in Bhava

chalit. Will this placement change what you have said already?

>

> The easiest way for you to look at my chart, instead of

imagining my chart through my explanation.

>

> DOB: Sep. 7, 1958

> TOB: 6:15 am

> POB: Bangalore, India

>

> What I see that the owner of 4th sign in the natural zodiac is

in the 10th house and owner of the 10th sign in the natural zodiac

is in the 4th house in my chart. Can this be considered as some kind

of parivartana? I have not read many classics and hence the question.

>

> Please do clarify.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear Krishnamurthyji,

>

> Myself talking about Your goodselfs chart would

> mean showing a Candle to the SunLight. But

> I will write what I observe.

>

> Both these planets though in 4th house would

> make You like Janaka. Detachment from inside

> but living like a Grihasta sanyaasi.

> This is because both placed in Star of

> Mercury representing 2nd (Family togetherness

> and consequent happiness)alongwith 11th ,

> (gains from same). A litle modification would

> depend on the placement of Mercury. In any

> case you would be a person who learns to adjust

> with the family and partners demands, and

> smilingly continues......(Saturn with Moon).

> Your mind would already be into such thoughts

> and the futility of Filial Love, and futility

> of running after materialistic ends.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > You have given an interesting combination for me. I have Saturn

> in the 4th and Moon is the 12th lord. Saturn and Moon are in

> samasaptaka - almost exact - Satrun in the 26th degree and Moon in

> the 28th degree.

> >

> > I am looking forward to the period when I could get true

> detachment from the fruits of my actions. Do you think Sat-Moon

> period would encourage such thoughts?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > Specially if the Moon is in the 4th or

> > Saturn is in the 4th, and one of them being

> > the 12th Lord, Vairagya or detachment is bound

> > to take place.It may be forced due to conditions

> > prevailing at Homefront.

> >

> > regards,

> > bhaskar.

> >

> > jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH

> > <savithri_mahesh2000@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Ravindramani

> > >

> > > I thank you at the outset for your detailed and analytical

reply.

> > >

> > > The aspect of Saturn on moon in a saint's chart gives

vairagya.

> > I have also come across another view which says that the

> combination

> > of saturn and ketu gives the native a sense of detachment.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > savithri

> > >

> > > ravindramani <ravindramani@> wrote:

> > > Dear Ms. Savithri,

> > >

> > > Rahu and Saturn both are defined as malefics. Technically and

> > > strictly speaking, when Moon is with Rahu or Moon is with

Saturn

> > it

> > > is an affliction. So is the case when Moon is aspected by

> Saturn.

> > > In my view, first consideration is Lagna. Lagna defines the

lord

> > > ship of Saturn and Moon. Second important consideration is

> > > the " signification " which is under examination.

> > >

> > > Moon is a luminary. Moon stands for eyes. When Moon is

afflicted

> > > either by Rahu or Saturn, the simple conclusion one would

arrive

> > at

> > > is – there could be some problem with one of the eyes. It is

an

> > > affliction.

> > >

> > > Take Cancer Lagna. Place Moon in Ascendant. Locate Saturn in

4th

> > > house. Consider the dignity of the two planets now. The lagna

> lord

> > > is in his own house. Exalted Saturn, the 7th lord of " public

> image

> > > and position " is in 4th house of " masses " Saturn connects the

> 6th

> > > house of elections, tenth house of power and authority, and

> lagna -

> >

> > > the individual as well as the lagna lord. The individual is

one

> of

> > > the successful and charismatic politicians of a biggest

> democracy.

> > > Now it is not an affliction. The purpose for which the planets

> are

> > > being examined, that decides the conjunction or the aspect is

an

> > > affliction or otherwise.

> > >

> > > Now one should not forget the Saturn rules the 8th too. The

> > results

> > > pertaining to that house would also materialize in the

> appropriate

> > > periods. Further one should not come to a conclusion without

the

> > > other forces operating in a chart. In order to explain my way

of

> > > looking at a combination to you, I placed only two planets and

> > > omitted the other placements.

> > >

> > > Take the charts of yogis. There would invariably Moon is

> > influenced

> > > by Saturn in one way or the other. When Moon is aspected by

> > Saturn,

> > > the " vairagya " the determination manifests in a chart. That is

> one

> > > of the basic qualities of a yogi.

> > >

> > > Take the charts of doctors or the lunatics. There you would

find

> > the

> > > influence of Saturn on Moon. It is the " signification " that is

> > > important. The difference is how (the role of a plaent), from

> > where

> > > (the house) and from which Rasi the relationship takes place.

> > >

> > > When I consider Moon is the reference point that is from the

> Moon,

> > > Jupiter is placed in sixth house means it is " chandradhi

yoga " .

> So

> > > is the case when Jupiter is placed in the eighth house from

> Moon.

> > In

> > > both cases Jupiter is supporting the Moon and influences the

2nd

> > and

> > > the 12th from Moon. It is an indication of inheritance

> generally.

> > >

> > > When I consider Jupiter as the reference point that is from

> > Jupiter,

> > > Moon is placed in sixth house or in eighth house it is Sakata

> > Yoga.

> > > (Of course when one planet is in the 8th from other, by

default

> > the

> > > other would occupy the 6th only). There is a transit rule that

> > says

> > > whenever the transit of Moon from radical Jupiter, the native

> > > undergoes some sort of misfortunes. This position

indicates " ups

> > and

> > > downs " in a person's life. We know the frequency in which Moon

> > > transits from radical Jupiter in a given chart. Hence one

should

> > not

> > > come to any firm conclusion merely looking at a single

> > combination.

> > > Any result is based on dasha. The chart should be seen in

> > totality.

> > > Hope this would help you to some extent.

> > >

> > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

> > Mobile. Try it now.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

Thanks for the details and for sparing your time on my horoscope. Your reading

is in line mostly with what I have been reading from my chart. That gives me

more confidence.

 

The first signs of getting spiritual was experienced by me in Ketu/Venus AD.

Till then, I never had such thoughts.

 

I would like to answer the questions in your mail:

 

Did you have some long journey in this Surya

antardasha, to some foreign country ? or

thid may come in next antardasha.

 

[Krishna] Not in Surya AD. But, if my plans fructify, I would be traveling in

the next AD, Moon AD, as you have also pointed out.

 

But did you sell some old residence or give

any property on hire to anyone ?

Any land dealings ?Any Loss in same ?

 

[Krishna] I sold a newly constructed flat a couple of years back. Though I did

not make a loss in Re terms, many of my friends told me that I could have got a

much better price if only I waited a bit longer or negotiated better. It is

more like a percieved loss. It is not important to me. But, it appears that

there is a complete loss of a plot which we bought about 8 years back. It turns

out that the seller is a cheat who resold his property which was already

acquired from him by BDA. Looks like the broker also joined hands with him.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

 

Dear Krishna ji,

 

Well I am sorry about the mix up and thought they

were in conjunction (Moon and Saturn). But,

I am not sorry about praising you. I do value your

astrological knowledge.

 

Saturn mahadasha would predominantly give returns

financial, through Longterm investments and landed

properties, if invested in. but the togetherness

part in the family which I mentioned would be

eroded to a great extent.

 

The Moon antardasha has the potential to take you to

great heights in research and academic achievemnets,

since it signifies 4th, 9th and the 9th again,

which is two times 9th.

What the 9th house means , related to Dharmic

activities, I need not relate to you.

 

This change as I mentioned in my last mail,

would now be reinforced strongly, but with

a much greater dispassionate thought

process inside you, which has already started

with the current Surya antardasha.

Because Mars aspecting the 4th

house. A Cold Moon aspecting the already

cold Saturn in the 4th house.

Moon being Lord of denial and causing

seperatative aspects on 4th would definitely

bring in the Vairagya from Domestic Life and

Home, and turn you into a totally dedicated person

devoted to social service and work, talking in

todays context, as Grihasta going to Jungle for

Sanyaas is a outdated term now.

 

Did you have some long journey in this Surya

antardasha, to some foreign country ? or

thid may come in next antardasha.

 

But did you sell some old residence or give

any property on hire to anyone ?

Any land dealings ?Any Loss in same ?

 

But but whatever it may be, You would be

operating 4th, 9th and 12th houses significations

in the Moon antardasha.Learning, teaching,

Serving.

 

Saturn would be touching the Lagna degree as

also the Lagna Lord degreecally around

May 2009 would accentuate this. ( I

mean the Vairagya)

This would be in the Moon antardasha.

 

By the way, Your Horoscope has PhD type

combinations many times over periodically

in your Life.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> Please don't put me at a high elevation. I am still in the

process of climbing and have a long way to go :-)

>

> Looks like there is a small confusion, could have been caused

due to my wording. In my chart, Moon and Saturn are almost in exact

Opposition. Satrun is in Mercury nakshatra, Mercury is placed in

Lagna. Since you refer to bhava chalit, I would like to let you know

that Mercury moves to 12th in the Bhava chalit chart. Moon is in

yogakaraka Mars's nakshatra (in Taurus). Mars is placed in the 10th

along with Moon (also opposing Sat). Mercury moves to 9th in Bhava

chalit. Will this placement change what you have said already?

>

> The easiest way for you to look at my chart, instead of

imagining my chart through my explanation.

>

> DOB: Sep. 7, 1958

> TOB: 6:15 am

> POB: Bangalore, India

>

> What I see that the owner of 4th sign in the natural zodiac is

in the 10th house and owner of the 10th sign in the natural zodiac

is in the 4th house in my chart. Can this be considered as some kind

of parivartana? I have not read many classics and hence the question.

>

> Please do clarify.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear Krishnamurthyji,

>

> Myself talking about Your goodselfs chart would

> mean showing a Candle to the SunLight. But

> I will write what I observe.

>

> Both these planets though in 4th house would

> make You like Janaka. Detachment from inside

> but living like a Grihasta sanyaasi.

> This is because both placed in Star of

> Mercury representing 2nd (Family togetherness

> and consequent happiness)alongwith 11th ,

> (gains from same). A litle modification would

> depend on the placement of Mercury. In any

> case you would be a person who learns to adjust

> with the family and partners demands, and

> smilingly continues......(Saturn with Moon).

> Your mind would already be into such thoughts

> and the futility of Filial Love, and futility

> of running after materialistic ends.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > You have given an interesting combination for me. I have Saturn

> in the 4th and Moon is the 12th lord. Saturn and Moon are in

> samasaptaka - almost exact - Satrun in the 26th degree and Moon in

> the 28th degree.

> >

> > I am looking forward to the period when I could get true

> detachment from the fruits of my actions. Do you think Sat-Moon

> period would encourage such thoughts?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > Specially if the Moon is in the 4th or

> > Saturn is in the 4th, and one of them being

> > the 12th Lord, Vairagya or detachment is bound

> > to take place.It may be forced due to conditions

> > prevailing at Homefront.

> >

> > regards,

> > bhaskar.

> >

> > jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH

> > <savithri_mahesh2000@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Ravindramani

> > >

> > > I thank you at the outset for your detailed and analytical

reply.

> > >

> > > The aspect of Saturn on moon in a saint's chart gives

vairagya.

> > I have also come across another view which says that the

> combination

> > of saturn and ketu gives the native a sense of detachment.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > savithri

> > >

> > > ravindramani <ravindramani@> wrote:

> > > Dear Ms. Savithri,

> > >

> > > Rahu and Saturn both are defined as malefics. Technically and

> > > strictly speaking, when Moon is with Rahu or Moon is with

Saturn

> > it

> > > is an affliction. So is the case when Moon is aspected by

> Saturn.

> > > In my view, first consideration is Lagna. Lagna defines the

lord

> > > ship of Saturn and Moon. Second important consideration is

> > > the " signification " which is under examination.

> > >

> > > Moon is a luminary. Moon stands for eyes. When Moon is

afflicted

> > > either by Rahu or Saturn, the simple conclusion one would

arrive

> > at

> > > is – there could be some problem with one of the eyes. It is

an

> > > affliction.

> > >

> > > Take Cancer Lagna. Place Moon in Ascendant. Locate Saturn in

4th

> > > house. Consider the dignity of the two planets now. The lagna

> lord

> > > is in his own house. Exalted Saturn, the 7th lord of " public

> image

> > > and position " is in 4th house of " masses " Saturn connects the

> 6th

> > > house of elections, tenth house of power and authority, and

> lagna -

> >

> > > the individual as well as the lagna lord. The individual is

one

> of

> > > the successful and charismatic politicians of a biggest

> democracy.

> > > Now it is not an affliction. The purpose for which the planets

> are

> > > being examined, that decides the conjunction or the aspect is

an

> > > affliction or otherwise.

> > >

> > > Now one should not forget the Saturn rules the 8th too. The

> > results

> > > pertaining to that house would also materialize in the

> appropriate

> > > periods. Further one should not come to a conclusion without

the

> > > other forces operating in a chart. In order to explain my way

of

> > > looking at a combination to you, I placed only two planets and

> > > omitted the other placements.

> > >

> > > Take the charts of yogis. There would invariably Moon is

> > influenced

> > > by Saturn in one way or the other. When Moon is aspected by

> > Saturn,

> > > the " vairagya " the determination manifests in a chart. That is

> one

> > > of the basic qualities of a yogi.

> > >

> > > Take the charts of doctors or the lunatics. There you would

find

> > the

> > > influence of Saturn on Moon. It is the " signification " that is

> > > important. The difference is how (the role of a plaent), from

> > where

> > > (the house) and from which Rasi the relationship takes place.

> > >

> > > When I consider Moon is the reference point that is from the

> Moon,

> > > Jupiter is placed in sixth house means it is " chandradhi

yoga " .

> So

> > > is the case when Jupiter is placed in the eighth house from

> Moon.

> > In

> > > both cases Jupiter is supporting the Moon and influences the

2nd

> > and

> > > the 12th from Moon. It is an indication of inheritance

> generally.

> > >

> > > When I consider Jupiter as the reference point that is from

> > Jupiter,

> > > Moon is placed in sixth house or in eighth house it is Sakata

> > Yoga.

> > > (Of course when one planet is in the 8th from other, by

default

> > the

> > > other would occupy the 6th only). There is a transit rule that

> > says

> > > whenever the transit of Moon from radical Jupiter, the native

> > > undergoes some sort of misfortunes. This position

indicates " ups

> > and

> > > downs " in a person's life. We know the frequency in which Moon

> > > transits from radical Jupiter in a given chart. Hence one

should

> > not

> > > come to any firm conclusion merely looking at a single

> > combination.

> > > Any result is based on dasha. The chart should be seen in

> > totality.

> > > Hope this would help you to some extent.

> > >

> > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

> > Mobile. Try it now.

> > >

> > >

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Dear jyotishi,

 

May I know your good name ......just curious to know..... your way of

writing reminds me one of my old acquaintances.... just curious..... as

I am going through the List after a gap of three or four days......If

you do not wish to disclose.... kindly ignore this.....

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " jyotishi " <jyotishi wrote:

>

> so much to learn from you on internet, Ravindramaniji ;-)

>

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

I did indicate earlier, Sir! I am Manas Kumar.

-

ravindramani

jyotish-vidya

Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:30 AM

Re: Stronger between lagna and moon- how to determine

 

 

Dear jyotishi,

 

May I know your good name ......just curious to know..... your way of

writing reminds me one of my old acquaintances.... just curious..... as

I am going through the List after a gap of three or four days......If

you do not wish to disclose.... kindly ignore this.....

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

jyotish-vidya , " jyotishi " <jyotishi wrote:

>

> so much to learn from you on internet, Ravindramaniji ;-)

>

> Thanks!

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you dear Manas. I feel more comfortable, when I know to whom I

am conversing. Thanks once again.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

In jyotish-vidya , " jyotishi " <jyotishi wrote:

>

> I did indicate earlier, Sir! I am Manas Kumar.>>>

[Guest guest]

A person who I haved looked upon for some time as a teacher/mentor/beacon on

internet told me this, which seemed strange at first but after a few years of

observing what goes on in internet forums, it has increasingly began to make

sense: *When sharing on internet forums where you do not really know who you are

talking to, consider the opportunity as if you are talking to yourself and no

one else is listening! I presume you know yourself well enough to not fall prey

to social poliety and would be true to yourself and share your thoughts honestly

-- whatever you put out there...*

 

I have had no reason to doubt the above that I was told...

 

 

-

ravindramani

jyotish-vidya

Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:04 PM

Re: Stronger between lagna and moon- how to determine

 

 

 

Thank you dear Manas. I feel more comfortable, when I know to whom I

am conversing. Thanks once again.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

In jyotish-vidya , " jyotishi " <jyotishi wrote:

>

> I did indicate earlier, Sir! I am Manas Kumar.>>>