Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Dear Mansa, So You have parivarthan Yoga in your chart between 1st and 5th lord, and You say that Parashar considers it as Maha Yoga. Did parashar mention about the 5th lord being Lord of another House too, in this Yoga ? You have total 3 Planets in lagna -Rahu,Mars and Jupiter. For Your information, Jupiter is not only the 5th Lord in your chart, but also the 8th Lord. What would happen to the 8th house attributes now ? For Your information Mars is also the badhaksthan- adhipati or the Lord of the 9th House ? For Your information Saturn would be transiting all these 3 planets in this sign within 2 years depending on the degree of these planets. In light of above information, which you seem to have apparently ignored, now what would be your take, on your Maha Yogas or Kendra trikona Yoga or RajYogas ? regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth wrote: > > Dear Group, > > This is my first post and I am trying learn about parivartana yoga > from my own chart. > > As per Parashara, parivartan between first and fifth lord is maha yoga. > Im my chart I am leo lagna with Lagna,jupiter mars and rahu in Lagna > and Sun in 5th house.Jupiter in vargottama in leo.Navamsa of ketu in Leo > > My question is How good this parivartan is? > From the little facts I collected, Rahu in simha rasi is considered > auspicious. Mars is yoga karaka for leo asc born for it holds lordship > of 4th and 9th houses.Infact it makes kendra trikona yoga in lagna a > Raja yoga. > > So does anyone think that my parivartna yoga will be harmed by Rahu > and mars. > If anyone like to clarify on what I have written Please do > I am adding my birth details below.. > Dec 21 1979 Ker,India 22:20 > Please do give me a reply at your earliest? > Thx > > mansa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, You got me thinking.. I believe constructive criticism is the key to learning...let's discuss more..The following is an excerpt from parashara text available online... Kindly leave me a comment based on this.. Natural Benefics and Malefics. Jupiter and Venus are benefics, while Moon is mediocre in benefice and Mercury is neutral (a benefic, when associated with a benefic and a malefic, when related to a malefic). Malefics are Sun, Saturn and Mars. Full Moon, Mercury, Jupiter and Venus are stronger in the ascending order. Weak Moon, Sun, Saturn and Mars are stronger (in malefic disposition) in the ascending order. In revealing maleficence, due to rulership of Kendras, Moon, Mercury, Jupiter and Venus are significant in the ascending order. 11-12. Lordships of Kendras and Konas. If there be an exchange between a Lord of a Kendr and a Lord of a Kon, or, if a Lord of a Kendr is conjunct with a Lord of a Kon in a Kendr, or in a Kon, or, if a Lord of a Kon is in a Kendr, or vice versa, or, if there happens to be a full Aspect between a Lord of a Kendr and a Lord of a Kon, they cause a Yoga. One born in such a Yoga will become a king and be famous. 13. If one and the same Planet gets the lordships of a Kon, as well as a Kendr, or, if a Planet is in a Kendr, or in a Kon, it will prove specially a Yoga Karak. 14. Lordship of Kendr. It has been said, that a malefic, owning a Kendr, will become auspicious, which is true, only when it simultaneously Lords over a Kon and not by merely owning a Kendr. 15. If the Lords of a Kendr, or a Kon own simultaneously an evil House, he does not cause a Raja Yoga by mere relations stipulated (as per Ch. 34, Slokas 11 and 12). 16. Rahu and Ketu. Rahu and Ketu give predominantly the effects, as due to their conjunct with a House Lord, or, as due to the House they occupy. 17. If Rahu and/or Ketu are in Kendr, receiving a Aspect from, or in association with the Lord of a Kon, or of a Kendr, it will become Yoga Karak. and finally for Leo lagna here is what i found in the text... Planets and Leo Lagna. Mercury, Venus and Saturn are malefics. Auspicious effects will be given by Mars, Jupiter and Sun. Jupiter's Conjunct with Venus (though, respectively, Kon and Kendr Lords) will not produce auspicious results. Saturn and Moon are killers, who will give effects, according to their associations. What is ur say based on this? Rgds, mansa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Dear Mansa, Before I start discussing,let me know, did You purchase or enter a new house in last 18 months ? Did You have any problems in your Life, during education period, with Your professors/teachers, and later on with any younger brother if any. And any relationship roblems with either servants or Maternal Uncles ? regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > You got me thinking.. I believe constructive criticism is the key to > learning...let's discuss more..The following is an excerpt from > parashara text available online... Kindly leave me a comment based on > this.. > > Natural Benefics and Malefics. Jupiter and Venus are benefics, while > Moon is mediocre in benefice and Mercury is neutral (a benefic, when > associated with a benefic and a malefic, when related to a malefic). > Malefics are Sun, Saturn and Mars. Full Moon, Mercury, Jupiter and Venus > are stronger in the ascending order. Weak Moon, Sun, Saturn and Mars are > stronger (in malefic disposition) in the ascending order. In revealing > maleficence, due to rulership of Kendras, Moon, Mercury, Jupiter and > Venus are significant in the ascending order. > > 11-12. Lordships of Kendras and Konas. If there be an exchange between a > Lord of a Kendr and a Lord of a Kon, or, if a Lord of a Kendr is > conjunct with a Lord of a Kon in a Kendr, or in a Kon, or, if a Lord of > a Kon is in a Kendr, or vice versa, or, if there happens to be a full > Aspect between a Lord of a Kendr and a Lord of a Kon, they cause a Yoga. > One born in such a Yoga will become a king and be famous. > > 13. If one and the same Planet gets the lordships of a Kon, as well as a > Kendr, or, if a Planet is in a Kendr, or in a Kon, it will prove > specially a Yoga Karak. > > 14. Lordship of Kendr. It has been said, that a malefic, owning a Kendr, > will become auspicious, which is true, only when it simultaneously Lords > over a Kon and not by merely owning a Kendr. > > 15. If the Lords of a Kendr, or a Kon own simultaneously an evil House, > he does not cause a Raja Yoga by mere relations stipulated (as per Ch. > 34, Slokas 11 and 12). > > 16. Rahu and Ketu. Rahu and Ketu give predominantly the effects, as due > to their conjunct with a House Lord, or, as due to the House they > occupy. > > 17. If Rahu and/or Ketu are in Kendr, receiving a Aspect from, or in > association with the Lord of a Kon, or of a Kendr, it will become Yoga > Karak. > > > and finally for Leo lagna here is what i found in the text... > > Planets and Leo Lagna. Mercury, Venus and Saturn are malefics. > Auspicious effects will be given by Mars, Jupiter and Sun. Jupiter's > Conjunct with Venus (though, respectively, Kon and Kendr Lords) will not > produce auspicious results. Saturn and Moon are killers, who will give > effects, according to their associations. > > > What is ur say based on this? > > Rgds, > mansa > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, Yes, I moved into a new apartment last december.. Me and my husband are thinking of buying a Condo/ town home sometime after dec '07. And yes, there are problems in my education.there been a break in it since 2004..But I am looking forward to study more, with god's grace this year itself. I did struggle a lot during my studies 'coz of tensions related to clinics..Yeah one of my professors have scolded me badly at several occasions..that was during october 2001 to 2002 academic period...But she had been really nice once I graduated as dentist..But, I have been one among the best students in my class always in the top 10...What I meant is I been intelligent enough to get a good score in all the exams I gave whole throughout my life.. I worked as a dentist for only 6mths that too volunteer service ( no salary)..that was till oct 2004..Been penniless from November 2004 to july 2005..'coz it was the time my family shifted to canada..I found a job as dental assitantin july 2005 and worked till January 2006.. Last year I have been after a lot of exams towards getting licensed as a dentist..my applications and efforts went in vain when I got waitlisted at university of toronto.. But it had been an eye-opener for me ,'coz it promised me that I am a competent candidate..this year I have applied again to university and hoping for the very best.. Well, that's where I am standing right now..that is the mini story of me I hope this answers your query.. Rgds, mansa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Dear Mansa, First of all let me thank you for taking the criticism as healthy, which is what was my aim, to get you thinking and the feet on the ground, because I do not wish you to harbor much elevations in your mind regarding Yogas, which many times are not fructified in real life, due to many factors. Next, There was no need to quote all that.I KNOW that Mars is a Yogakaraka for Leo Lagna, I also KNOW that that Rahu conjoined with a Yogkaraka and especially placed in Kendra will prove advantageous to the native. I also KNOW that Rahu would even alone behave very well in Leo in the Lagna. BUT, I also KNOW that Mars is a Badhak Lord, and all connected with it would also be affected in delaying and obstructing the positive results expected forthcoming, which would not effect in full weight. Why I know all of above, is because I am myself a Leo Lagna with Rahu and Mars in Lagna, so have studied many texts for such combinations , and also have gone tyhrough Mars Mahadasha already and going through Rahu MD presently. Okay now coming to your Chart and Your replies to my small queries. You have given me and yourself both of us, certain answers to your own queries, which I required to talk further, You notice that Mars though being a Yogkaraka, and also the Lord of 4th house of education, yet did not behave like a Yogkaraka, the way it was supposed to, if we consider it as a Yogkaraka ? You had breaks in your education, problem with some teacher, Why ? Because of the 8th Lord , Jupiter being in close conjunction with Mars within 2 degrees Orb. So there goes the Yogkaraka bearing characteristics of Mars, they would come to you, but at a cost, after obstructions faced by You. Mars is not very strong, is what we see, and not unblemished, else it would have given you a younger brother too. What about Moon ? I wished to check its characteristics in Your case, in the house where it is placed, whether it is showing these or not. And it does show. Remember that Moon is the Lord of the 12th ,and also known as the Lord of Denials. It has denied you Maternal Uncles. I will not waste time on Parivartan Yogas, how it would work in your case, etc.etc. but lets talk about future, which you would be more interested in. Yes one more point, Rahu is not closely conjuncted with any Planet, is a very advantagous point for you. Or else You would have faced more troubles from the other planets in the Ascendant sign. You are running one of the best antardashas you can hope for, at the present. Budh antardasha will give you, all you can hope for, family happiness, wealth, fulfillment of desires, and also Condo/ town home You can get your academic excellence in this antardasha, so go for it. If You have married recently (I will not spend time calculating all that, but just mention what I notice ), then you would have a child after the end of Budh antar, but may be through Ceaserian. Sorry, you never talked about this, yet I mentioned it. Do not waste this Budh antardasha. best wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > Yes, I moved into a new apartment last december.. Me and my husband > are thinking of buying a Condo/ town home sometime after dec '07. > > And yes, there are problems in my education.there been a break in it > since 2004..But I am looking forward to study more, with god's grace > this year itself. > > I did struggle a lot during my studies 'coz of tensions related to > clinics..Yeah one of my professors have scolded me badly at several > occasions..that was during october 2001 to 2002 academic period...But > she had been really nice once I graduated as dentist..But, I have been > one among the best students in my class always in the top 10...What I > meant is I been intelligent enough to get a good score in all the > exams I gave whole throughout my life.. > > I worked as a dentist for only 6mths that too volunteer service ( no > salary)..that was till oct 2004..Been penniless from November 2004 to > july 2005..'coz it was the time my family shifted to canada..I found a > job as dental assitantin july 2005 and worked till January 2006.. Last > year I have been after a lot of exams towards getting licensed as a > dentist..my applications and efforts went in vain when I got > waitlisted at university of toronto.. > > But it had been an eye-opener for me ,'coz it promised me that I am a > competent candidate..this year I have applied again to university and > hoping for the very best.. Well, that's where I am standing right > now..that is the mini story of me > > I hope this answers your query.. > > > Rgds, > mansa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Su, Nice to know that someone enjoys it. At times I feel I write extra, more than necessary, as few people have pointed out to me. But I believe in honesty, and falling in love with whatever one is into, So try to write as, one would be talking in person with a friend. Thanks . Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " v reality " <reality_v wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji > Its great that you always give such detailed explanations - it helps those > who are in the learning process. > > warm regards > su > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish > >jyotish-vidya > >jyotish-vidya > > Re: My first post-- Parivartana yoga > >Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:54:47 -0000 > > > >Dear Mansa, > > > >First of all let me thank you for taking the > >criticism as healthy, which is what was my aim, > >to get you thinking and the feet on the ground, > >because I do not wish you to harbor > >much elevations in your mind regarding Yogas, > >which many times are not fructified in real life, > >due to many factors. > > > >Next, There was no need to quote all that.I > >KNOW that Mars is a Yogakaraka for Leo Lagna, > >I also KNOW that that Rahu conjoined with a > >Yogkaraka and especially placed in Kendra > >will prove advantageous to the native. > >I also KNOW that Rahu would even alone behave > >very well in Leo in the Lagna. > > > >BUT, I also KNOW that Mars is a Badhak Lord, > >and all connected with it would also be > >affected in delaying and obstructing the > >positive results expected forthcoming, > >which would not effect in full weight. > > > >Why I know all of above, is because I am myself > >a Leo Lagna with Rahu and Mars in Lagna, so have > >studied many texts for such combinations , > >and also have gone tyhrough Mars Mahadasha already > >and going through Rahu MD presently. > > > >Okay now coming to your Chart and Your > >replies to my small queries. You have > >given me and yourself both of us, > >certain answers to your own queries, > >which I required to talk further, > > > >You notice that Mars though being a Yogkaraka, and > >also the Lord of 4th house of education, yet did > >not behave like a Yogkaraka, the way it was > >supposed to, if we consider it as > >a Yogkaraka ? You had breaks in your education, > >problem with some teacher, Why ? > >Because of the 8th Lord , Jupiter being in > >close conjunction with Mars within 2 degrees Orb. > >So there goes the Yogkaraka bearing characteristics > >of Mars, they would come to you, but at a cost, > >after obstructions faced by You. Mars is not very > >strong, is what we see, and not > >unblemished, else it would > >have given you a younger brother too. > > > >What about Moon ? I wished to check its characteristics > >in Your case, in the house where it is placed, whether > >it is showing these or not. And it does show. Remember > >that Moon is the Lord of the 12th ,and also known as > >the Lord of Denials. It has denied you Maternal Uncles. > > > >I will not waste time on Parivartan Yogas, how it would > >work in your case, etc.etc. but lets talk about future, > >which you would be more interested in. > >Yes one more point, Rahu is not closely > >conjuncted with any Planet, is a very > >advantagous point for you. Or else You would > >have faced more troubles from the other planets in the > >Ascendant sign. > > > >You are running one of the best antardashas you > >can hope for, at the present. Budh antardasha > >will give you, all you can hope for, family > >happiness, wealth, fulfillment of > >desires, and also Condo/ town home > >You can get your academic excellence in this > >antardasha, so go for it. > > > >If You have married recently (I will not spend > >time calculating all that, but just mention what I > >notice ), then you would have a child after > >the end of Budh antar, but may be through > >Ceaserian. Sorry, you never talked about > >this, yet I mentioned it. > > > >Do not waste this Budh antardasha. > > > >best wishes, > >Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > Yes, I moved into a new apartment last december.. Me and my husband > > > are thinking of buying a Condo/ town home sometime after dec '07. > > > > > > And yes, there are problems in my education.there been a break in it > > > since 2004..But I am looking forward to study more, with god's grace > > > this year itself. > > > > > > I did struggle a lot during my studies 'coz of tensions related to > > > clinics..Yeah one of my professors have scolded me badly at several > > > occasions..that was during october 2001 to 2002 academic period...But > > > she had been really nice once I graduated as dentist..But, I have been > > > one among the best students in my class always in the top 10...What I > > > meant is I been intelligent enough to get a good score in all the > > > exams I gave whole throughout my life.. > > > > > > I worked as a dentist for only 6mths that too volunteer service ( no > > > salary)..that was till oct 2004..Been penniless from November 2004 to > > > july 2005..'coz it was the time my family shifted to canada..I found a > > > job as dental assitantin july 2005 and worked till January 2006.. Last > > > year I have been after a lot of exams towards getting licensed as a > > > dentist..my applications and efforts went in vain when I got > > > waitlisted at university of toronto.. > > > > > > But it had been an eye-opener for me ,'coz it promised me that I am a > > > competent candidate..this year I have applied again to university and > > > hoping for the very best.. Well, that's where I am standing right > > > now..that is the mini story of me > > > > > > I hope this answers your query.. > > > > > > > > > Rgds, > > > mansa > > > > > > > > > _______________ > Advertisement: Search for local singles online at Lavalife > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2\ Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%\ 26a%3D29892 & _t=764581033 & _r=email_taglines_Search & _m=EXT > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Bhaskar (may I call you Barry?) Consider the following list: Leo/Cancer YK = Mars Cap/Aqau YK = Venus Tauras/Libra YK = Saturn So for Sun and Moon asc.: Mars is the key planet for Saturn asc(s) : Venus is the key planet for Libra asc(s) : Saturn is the key planet. A special relation exists between Saturn and Venus in that Saturn is also exalted by Libra, a sign of Venus. What is interetsing about the list is that two strong malefics (Mars,Saturn) have YK status. Now the point I am getting at is what is the rationale that underpins the above system? Any ideas? Looking forward to your views. Rich jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Su, > > Nice to know that someone enjoys it. At times I > feel I write extra, more than necessary, as few > people have pointed out to me. > > But I believe in honesty, and falling in love > with whatever one is into, So try to write as, > one would be talking in person with a friend. > > Thanks . > > Bhaskar. > > > > jyotish-vidya , " v reality " <reality_v@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji > > Its great that you always give such detailed explanations - it helps > those > > who are in the learning process. > > > > warm regards > > su > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > >jyotish-vidya > > >jyotish-vidya > > > Re: My first post-- Parivartana yoga > > >Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:54:47 -0000 > > > > > >Dear Mansa, > > > > > >First of all let me thank you for taking the > > >criticism as healthy, which is what was my aim, > > >to get you thinking and the feet on the ground, > > >because I do not wish you to harbor > > >much elevations in your mind regarding Yogas, > > >which many times are not fructified in real life, > > >due to many factors. > > > > > >Next, There was no need to quote all that.I > > >KNOW that Mars is a Yogakaraka for Leo Lagna, > > >I also KNOW that that Rahu conjoined with a > > >Yogkaraka and especially placed in Kendra > > >will prove advantageous to the native. > > >I also KNOW that Rahu would even alone behave > > >very well in Leo in the Lagna. > > > > > >BUT, I also KNOW that Mars is a Badhak Lord, > > >and all connected with it would also be > > >affected in delaying and obstructing the > > >positive results expected forthcoming, > > >which would not effect in full weight. > > > > > >Why I know all of above, is because I am myself > > >a Leo Lagna with Rahu and Mars in Lagna, so have > > >studied many texts for such combinations , > > >and also have gone tyhrough Mars Mahadasha already > > >and going through Rahu MD presently. > > > > > >Okay now coming to your Chart and Your > > >replies to my small queries. You have > > >given me and yourself both of us, > > >certain answers to your own queries, > > >which I required to talk further, > > > > > >You notice that Mars though being a Yogkaraka, and > > >also the Lord of 4th house of education, yet did > > >not behave like a Yogkaraka, the way it was > > >supposed to, if we consider it as > > >a Yogkaraka ? You had breaks in your education, > > >problem with some teacher, Why ? > > >Because of the 8th Lord , Jupiter being in > > >close conjunction with Mars within 2 degrees Orb. > > >So there goes the Yogkaraka bearing characteristics > > >of Mars, they would come to you, but at a cost, > > >after obstructions faced by You. Mars is not very > > >strong, is what we see, and not > > >unblemished, else it would > > >have given you a younger brother too. > > > > > >What about Moon ? I wished to check its characteristics > > >in Your case, in the house where it is placed, whether > > >it is showing these or not. And it does show. Remember > > >that Moon is the Lord of the 12th ,and also known as > > >the Lord of Denials. It has denied you Maternal Uncles. > > > > > >I will not waste time on Parivartan Yogas, how it would > > >work in your case, etc.etc. but lets talk about future, > > >which you would be more interested in. > > >Yes one more point, Rahu is not closely > > >conjuncted with any Planet, is a very > > >advantagous point for you. Or else You would > > >have faced more troubles from the other planets in the > > >Ascendant sign. > > > > > >You are running one of the best antardashas you > > >can hope for, at the present. Budh antardasha > > >will give you, all you can hope for, family > > >happiness, wealth, fulfillment of > > >desires, and also Condo/ town home > > >You can get your academic excellence in this > > >antardasha, so go for it. > > > > > >If You have married recently (I will not spend > > >time calculating all that, but just mention what I > > >notice ), then you would have a child after > > >the end of Budh antar, but may be through > > >Ceaserian. Sorry, you never talked about > > >this, yet I mentioned it. > > > > > >Do not waste this Budh antardasha. > > > > > >best wishes, > > >Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > Yes, I moved into a new apartment last december.. Me and my husband > > > > are thinking of buying a Condo/ town home sometime after dec '07. > > > > > > > > And yes, there are problems in my education.there been a break in it > > > > since 2004..But I am looking forward to study more, with god's grace > > > > this year itself. > > > > > > > > I did struggle a lot during my studies 'coz of tensions related to > > > > clinics..Yeah one of my professors have scolded me badly at several > > > > occasions..that was during october 2001 to 2002 academic > period...But > > > > she had been really nice once I graduated as dentist..But, I > have been > > > > one among the best students in my class always in the top > 10...What I > > > > meant is I been intelligent enough to get a good score in all the > > > > exams I gave whole throughout my life.. > > > > > > > > I worked as a dentist for only 6mths that too volunteer service ( no > > > > salary)..that was till oct 2004..Been penniless from November > 2004 to > > > > july 2005..'coz it was the time my family shifted to canada..I > found a > > > > job as dental assitantin july 2005 and worked till January > 2006.. Last > > > > year I have been after a lot of exams towards getting licensed as a > > > > dentist..my applications and efforts went in vain when I got > > > > waitlisted at university of toronto.. > > > > > > > > But it had been an eye-opener for me ,'coz it promised me that I > am a > > > > competent candidate..this year I have applied again to > university and > > > > hoping for the very best.. Well, that's where I am standing right > > > > now..that is the mini story of me > > > > > > > > I hope this answers your query.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rgds, > > > > mansa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > > Advertisement: Search for local singles online at Lavalife > > > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn% 2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context% 3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a% 3D29892 & _t=764581033 & _r=email_taglines_Search & _m=EXT > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Hello Richpetey, //What is interetsing about the list is that two strong malefics (Mars,Saturn) have YK status. Now the point I am getting at is what is the rationale that underpins the above system? Any ideas?// The rationale behind any YogaKaraka is simply that it owns both a kendra and a trine...nothing more complicated than that! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " richpetey " <richpetey <jyotish-vidya > Monday, August 06, 2007 9:17 PM Re: My first post-- Parivartana yoga Bhaskar (may I call you Barry?) Consider the following list: Leo/Cancer YK = Mars Cap/Aqau YK = Venus Tauras/Libra YK = Saturn So for Sun and Moon asc.: Mars is the key planet for Saturn asc(s) : Venus is the key planet for Libra asc(s) : Saturn is the key planet. A special relation exists between Saturn and Venus in that Saturn is also exalted by Libra, a sign of Venus. What is interetsing about the list is that two strong malefics (Mars,Saturn) have YK status. Now the point I am getting at is what is the rationale that underpins the above system? Any ideas? Looking forward to your views. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Dear Richie (Rich), Okay.To reconfirm what You mentioned , and To be more precise, the following are the major Yogkaraka planets for each ascendant. as mentioned by Late Shri BV Raman. Aries- Jupiter Taurus- Saturn Gemini - Venus + Saturn Cancer - Mars + Jupiter Leo - Mars Virgo - Venus Libra - Saturn Scorpio Jupiter + Sun + Moon Sagittarius - Mars Capricorn - Venus Aquarius - Venus Pisces - Mars + Moon In above list , we find Venus,Mars and Saturn re-occuring frequently, though for a Casual observer ,Venus may sound as a planet related to Sex and Love, Mars as a Planet producing aggression, heat,anger,Cuts, and Saturn as a Planet who punishes. gives lingering disease and creates all types of problems in Life . We may give astrological reasoining for what a Yogkaraka Planet is - Owner of kendra and Trikona both, Lord of the most benefic house etc. But from a Esoteric point of view- Mars (Mangala) represents (Karma) or action. Karma from a moral sense as in Kartavya (Duty). A default in ones duties towards parents,kinsmen, family,society and country represents amangal (Read Mangal as fortune and amangal as Misfortune). Suva mangal or shubh Mangal or Good actions, is Rinantaka or end of rins or terminator of debts. Therefore Shubh Mangal is essential for any welfare or good luck. Karma arises from Kama. Which now brings us to Venus. The main pivot of ones reasomn to Live each day - Desires. Venus-Shukra derived from Sucha, Suchi, -means purity. Shukra has another name - Vrish (As in Taurus -Vrishabha) Vrish derived from Varsha - or Showers- that which showers good actions (Dharma- Religion)- Vrsa is the carrier of Lord Shiva (Wisdom). The Devata (Lord) of Venus is Indra (same as indriya-the senses of the body) Kamana or vasanas (Desires) are represented by venus. Kamana -Desires has within it the creative force ,both on physical and mental planes. It has the power to create. In us Venus gives passion. It gives in us a craving in the heart for gratification of the senses. Till this is satisfied all is well seemingly to us. But when Kamana -Desires gets a setback it, turns into Krodha - anger - Fire of Mars. Where does Mars get Exalted - In Capricorn. Lorded by Saturn. Saturn represents time and its effect. Time is destiny. Wheneevr there is violation of truth, absence of self control or over indulgence in sexual pleasures-Desires (Venus), Saturn as destiny appears in time to wield its Powers. The destiny turns slowly unseen to inflict the due punishment for disobeying the laws of Time - Dharma -Shubh Karma (Mangal). Saturn passes sentences aiming a change within, to liberate the offender, from the Moh or Maya that Lie unseen in the fold of mind, and had caused the offence against time. It creates - situations - the truning point of Life, which ultimately leads him to self realisation and in later stages brings in renunciation. So mobility of a life is Saturn. Misdirected Life is evil Saturn that turns one into evil person. Favourable . e Shani or Saturn is Vishnu Shakti which secretly steals away mind from the material plane to the spiritual plane. The Natural Kundli. Kala purush Kundli. Aries is the ascendant. Mars is the Lord. Mars gets exalted in Capricorn in the 10th house. Please note well the significations. Mars(Self) and if Shubh Karma(Good actions) represented through the 10th house of Saturn, would produce fulfillment of all desires (Venus) again through gains derived from the 11th house which also is Owned by Saturn. Thus we see that for ordinary people Mars,Venus or Saturn may be malefic, but for good elevated Souls, there is no maleficness from these Great Planets, and would on the contrary prove to be a blessing(Yog karaka) for one who keeps Good desires (Venus) , does Good Work( Mars-Action) and gets rewarded (Saturn), a reward which no one can take away. Remember that for those with saturn in 11th house, the journey for gains may be ardous,but gains once derived, would for one to keep always. That is the reason, probably i feel, these Planets have been given the status of Yogkaraka Planets. The above was from my limited understanding of the subject. Please feel free to ignore the same. Yes you may call me whatever makes you feel happy and comfortable. I would remain the same whatever name I am addressed with. best wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " richpetey " <richpetey wrote: > > Bhaskar (may I call you Barry?) > > Consider the following list: > > Leo/Cancer YK = Mars > Cap/Aqau YK = Venus > Tauras/Libra YK = Saturn > > So for Sun and Moon asc.: Mars is the key planet > for Saturn asc(s) : Venus is the key planet > for Libra asc(s) : Saturn is the key planet. > > A special relation exists between Saturn and Venus in that Saturn is > also exalted by Libra, a sign of Venus. > > What is interetsing about the list is that two strong malefics > (Mars,Saturn) have YK status. > > Now the point I am getting at is what is the rationale that underpins > the above system? Any ideas? > > Looking forward to your views. > > Rich > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Su, > > > > Nice to know that someone enjoys it. At times I > > feel I write extra, more than necessary, as few > > people have pointed out to me. > > > > But I believe in honesty, and falling in love > > with whatever one is into, So try to write as, > > one would be talking in person with a friend. > > > > Thanks . > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " v reality " <reality_v@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji > > > Its great that you always give such detailed explanations - it > helps > > those > > > who are in the learning process. > > > > > > warm regards > > > su > > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > >jyotish-vidya > > > >jyotish-vidya > > > > Re: My first post-- Parivartana yoga > > > >Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:54:47 -0000 > > > > > > > >Dear Mansa, > > > > > > > >First of all let me thank you for taking the > > > >criticism as healthy, which is what was my aim, > > > >to get you thinking and the feet on the ground, > > > >because I do not wish you to harbor > > > >much elevations in your mind regarding Yogas, > > > >which many times are not fructified in real life, > > > >due to many factors. > > > > > > > >Next, There was no need to quote all that.I > > > >KNOW that Mars is a Yogakaraka for Leo Lagna, > > > >I also KNOW that that Rahu conjoined with a > > > >Yogkaraka and especially placed in Kendra > > > >will prove advantageous to the native. > > > >I also KNOW that Rahu would even alone behave > > > >very well in Leo in the Lagna. > > > > > > > >BUT, I also KNOW that Mars is a Badhak Lord, > > > >and all connected with it would also be > > > >affected in delaying and obstructing the > > > >positive results expected forthcoming, > > > >which would not effect in full weight. > > > > > > > >Why I know all of above, is because I am myself > > > >a Leo Lagna with Rahu and Mars in Lagna, so have > > > >studied many texts for such combinations , > > > >and also have gone tyhrough Mars Mahadasha already > > > >and going through Rahu MD presently. > > > > > > > >Okay now coming to your Chart and Your > > > >replies to my small queries. You have > > > >given me and yourself both of us, > > > >certain answers to your own queries, > > > >which I required to talk further, > > > > > > > >You notice that Mars though being a Yogkaraka, and > > > >also the Lord of 4th house of education, yet did > > > >not behave like a Yogkaraka, the way it was > > > >supposed to, if we consider it as > > > >a Yogkaraka ? You had breaks in your education, > > > >problem with some teacher, Why ? > > > >Because of the 8th Lord , Jupiter being in > > > >close conjunction with Mars within 2 degrees Orb. > > > >So there goes the Yogkaraka bearing characteristics > > > >of Mars, they would come to you, but at a cost, > > > >after obstructions faced by You. Mars is not very > > > >strong, is what we see, and not > > > >unblemished, else it would > > > >have given you a younger brother too. > > > > > > > >What about Moon ? I wished to check its characteristics > > > >in Your case, in the house where it is placed, whether > > > >it is showing these or not. And it does show. Remember > > > >that Moon is the Lord of the 12th ,and also known as > > > >the Lord of Denials. It has denied you Maternal Uncles. > > > > > > > >I will not waste time on Parivartan Yogas, how it would > > > >work in your case, etc.etc. but lets talk about future, > > > >which you would be more interested in. > > > >Yes one more point, Rahu is not closely > > > >conjuncted with any Planet, is a very > > > >advantagous point for you. Or else You would > > > >have faced more troubles from the other planets in the > > > >Ascendant sign. > > > > > > > >You are running one of the best antardashas you > > > >can hope for, at the present. Budh antardasha > > > >will give you, all you can hope for, family > > > >happiness, wealth, fulfillment of > > > >desires, and also Condo/ town home > > > >You can get your academic excellence in this > > > >antardasha, so go for it. > > > > > > > >If You have married recently (I will not spend > > > >time calculating all that, but just mention what I > > > >notice ), then you would have a child after > > > >the end of Budh antar, but may be through > > > >Ceaserian. Sorry, you never talked about > > > >this, yet I mentioned it. > > > > > > > >Do not waste this Budh antardasha. > > > > > > > >best wishes, > > > >Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >jyotish-vidya , " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I moved into a new apartment last december.. Me and my > husband > > > > > are thinking of buying a Condo/ town home sometime after > dec '07. > > > > > > > > > > And yes, there are problems in my education.there been a > break in it > > > > > since 2004..But I am looking forward to study more, with > god's grace > > > > > this year itself. > > > > > > > > > > I did struggle a lot during my studies 'coz of tensions > related to > > > > > clinics..Yeah one of my professors have scolded me badly at > several > > > > > occasions..that was during october 2001 to 2002 academic > > period...But > > > > > she had been really nice once I graduated as dentist..But, I > > have been > > > > > one among the best students in my class always in the top > > 10...What I > > > > > meant is I been intelligent enough to get a good score in all > the > > > > > exams I gave whole throughout my life.. > > > > > > > > > > I worked as a dentist for only 6mths that too volunteer > service ( no > > > > > salary)..that was till oct 2004..Been penniless from November > > 2004 to > > > > > july 2005..'coz it was the time my family shifted to canada..I > > found a > > > > > job as dental assitantin july 2005 and worked till January > > 2006.. Last > > > > > year I have been after a lot of exams towards getting > licensed as a > > > > > dentist..my applications and efforts went in vain when I got > > > > > waitlisted at university of toronto.. > > > > > > > > > > But it had been an eye-opener for me ,'coz it promised me > that I > > am a > > > > > competent candidate..this year I have applied again to > > university and > > > > > hoping for the very best.. 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