Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006  | om gurave namah |Dear Jayachandran The deity is a form of the Divine Mother - start with Durga. Just start chanting Her name for a few days all the time and see how life changes for you.Best wishes and warm regards,Sanjay RathPersonal: WebPages â— Rath’s Rhapsody SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center â— SJCERC â— JIVAPublications: The Jyotish Digest â— Sagittarius Publications---- sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of jayachandran_revathiMonday, November 06, 2006 12:06 AMsohamsa Subject: Re: spiritual inclination -dear sanjay jii am not a jyothisha but i am inclined to jyothish these days . one fo the audio tapes i heard for future planning one should worship diety shown by 5th house .i have moon in 5th house(meen rashi )which diety is this .retrograde shani in exalted as AK:what does this indicates in spirituaality?which diety is my ishta devathamy details are shown belowtob:5-20 pmplace:kannur keraladate 12 june 1985-- In sohamsa , "Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath wrote:>> | om gurave namah |> Dear Jyotisha> > comments below> Best wishes and warm regards,> Sanjay Rath> -------------------------> Personal: <http://srath.com/blog/> WebPages ¡ü <http://srath.com/blog/>> Rath¡Çs Rhapsody> SJC WebPages: <http://.org/> Sri Jagannath Center ¡ü> <http://sjcerc.com/> SJCERC ¡ü <http://jiva.us/> JIVA> Publications: <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> The Jyotish Digest ¡ü> <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> Sagittarius Publications> ---------------------------> > > > > _____> > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> jayachandran_revathi> Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:52 PM> sohamsa > spiritual inclination> > > > > > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=15659908/grpspId=1705082690/msgI> d=8025/stime=1162650306/nc1=3848570/nc2=3848640/nc3=3848590>> > > hello> how can we predict spiritual inclination of a person through his> horoscope?> [s.Rath:] (1) AK, Ista, Dharma, Kula and Sthana Devata + Guru devata in> addition to (2) Lagna, dharma + Moksha trikona and (3) D1, D9, D20, D24 and> D60 charts> > what will tell the awakining of kundalini in a horoscope?> [s.Rath:] 8th & 5th house in above mentioned charts. See examples in COVA> etc> which combination will suggest the liberation from birth-rebirth cycle> (moksha)> [s.Rath:] Parasara and others give some combinations but then I think the> death chart (punya) is more important than the birth chart> > > > > > _____> > avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean.> > > Virus Database (VPS): 0645-4, 11/03/2006> Tested on: 11/4/2006 8:33:50 PM> avast! - copyright © 1988-2006 ALWIL Software.> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0645-4, 11/03/2006Tested on: 11/6/2006 12:38:54 AMavast! - copyright © 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006  | om gurave namah |Dear Jayachandran No. Annapoorna is associated with Venus while Durga is associated with the sukla paksha of the Moon thereby controlling the negativity of Rahu. If you see the chart of Sadhvi Rithambara it has Mina Lagna with Moon in 5th as AK. Now stop doubting and start reciting mantra. And slowly grow from differentiation of Annapoorna and Durga and see Durga in every lady around you.Best wishes and warm regards,Sanjay RathPersonal: WebPages â— Rath’s Rhapsody SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center â— SJCERC â— JIVAPublications: The Jyotish Digest â— Sagittarius Publications---- sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of jayachandran_revathiMonday, November 06, 2006 8:43 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: spiritual inclination --dear sanjayjican i worship Annapoorna instead of durga.As my native place contins annapoorna temple , and i am more inclined to annapoorna devijayachandran- In sohamsa , "Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath wrote:>> > > > | om gurave namah |> Dear Jayachandran> > The deity is a form of the Divine Mother - start with Durga. Just start chanting Her name for a few days all the time and see how life changes for you.> Best wishes and warm regards,> Sanjay Rath> -------------------------> Personal: <http://srath.com/blog/> WebPages â— <http://srath.com/blog/> Rath’s Rhapsody > SJC WebPages: <http://.org/> Sri Jagannath Center â— <http://sjcerc.com/> SJCERC â— <http://jiva.us/> JIVA> Publications: <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> The Jyotish Digest â— <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> Sagittarius Publications> ---------------------------> > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of jayachandran_revathi> Monday, November 06, 2006 12:06 AM> sohamsa > Re: spiritual inclination> > > > -> > dear sanjay ji> > i am not a jyothisha but i am inclined to jyothish these days . one > fo the audio tapes i heard for future planning one should worship > diety shown by 5th house .i have moon in 5th house(meen rashi )which > diety is this .> retrograde shani in exalted as AK:what does this indicates in > spirituaality?> which diety is my ishta devatha> my details are shown below> tob:5-20 pm> place:kannur kerala> date 12 june 1985> > -- In sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com, "Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath@> wrote:> >> > | om gurave namah |> > Dear Jyotisha> > > > comments below> > Best wishes and warm regards,> > Sanjay Rath> > -------------------------> > Personal: <http://srath. <http://srath.com/blog/> com/blog/> WebPages ¡ü > <http://srath. <http://srath.com/blog/> com/blog/>> > Rath¡Çs Rhapsody> > SJC WebPages: <http:// <http://.org/> .org/> Sri Jagannath Center ¡ü> > <http://sjcerc. <http://sjcerc.com/> com/> SJCERC ¡ü <http://jiva. <http://jiva.us/> us/> JIVA> > Publications: <http://thejyotishdi <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> gest.com/> The Jyotish Digest ¡ü> > <http://sagittariusp <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ublications.com/> Sagittarius Publications> > -------------------------> --> > > > > > > > > > _____> > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com [sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com] On > Behalf Of> > jayachandran_revathi> > Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:52 PM> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com> > spiritual inclination> > > > > > > > > > > > <http://geo.. <http://geo./serv?> com/serv?> s=97359714/grpId=15659908/grpspId=1705082690/msgI> > d=8025/stime=1162650306/nc1=3848570/nc2=3848640/nc3=3848590>> > > > > > hello> > how can we predict spiritual inclination of a person through his> > horoscope?> > [s.Rath:] (1) AK, Ista, Dharma, Kula and Sthana Devata + Guru > devata in> > addition to (2) Lagna, dharma + Moksha trikona and (3) D1, D9, D20, > D24 and> > D60 charts> > > > what will tell the awakining of kundalini in a horoscope?> > [s.Rath:] 8th & 5th house in above mentioned charts. See examples > in COVA> > etc> > which combination will suggest the liberation from birth-rebirth > cycle> > (moksha)> > [s.Rath:] Parasara and others give some combinations but then I > think the> > death chart (punya) is more important than the birth chart> > > > > > > > > > > > _____> > > > avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast. <http://www.avast.com> com> : Outbound message clean.> > > > > > Virus Database (VPS): 0645-4, 11/03/2006> > Tested on: 11/4/2006 8:33:50 PM> > avast! - copyright © 1988-2006 ALWIL Software.> >> > > > > > > > _____ > > avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. > > > Virus Database (VPS): 0645-4, 11/03/2006> Tested on: 11/6/2006 12:38:54 AM> avast! - copyright © 1988-2006 ALWIL Software.> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0645-4, 11/03/2006Tested on: 11/6/2006 11:46:36 PMavast! - copyright © 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sanjay ji, I am unable to understand the significance of Rahu in this chart. Also Moon is in Krishna paksha. Hope I have drawn up the chart correctly. Kind regards Ramesh sanjayrath Sent by: sohamsa 11/06/2006 01:41 PM Please respond to sohamsa To sohamsa cc Subject RE: Re: spiritual inclination | om gurave namah | Dear Jayachandran No. Annapoorna is associated with Venus while Durga is associated with the sukla paksha of the Moon thereby controlling the negativity of Rahu. If you see the chart of Sadhvi Rithambara it has Mina Lagna with Moon in 5th as AK. Now stop doubting and start reciting mantra. And slowly grow from differentiation of Annapoorna and Durga and see Durga in every lady around you. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Personal: WebPages ● Rath’s Rhapsody SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center ● SJCERC ● JIVA Publications: The Jyotish Digest ● Sagittarius Publications ---- sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of jayachandran_revathi Monday, November 06, 2006 8:43 PM sohamsa Re: spiritual inclination -- dear sanjayji can i worship Annapoorna instead of durga.As my native place contins annapoorna temple , and i am more inclined to annapoorna devi jayachandran - In sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath wrote: > > > > > | om gurave namah | > Dear Jayachandran > > The deity is a form of the Divine Mother - start with Durga. Just start chanting Her name for a few days all the time and see how life changes for you. > Best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > ------------------------- > Personal: <http://srath.com/blog/> WebPages â— <http://srath.com/blog/> Rath’s Rhapsody > SJC WebPages: <http://.org/> Sri Jagannath Center â— <http://sjcerc.com/> SJCERC â— <http://jiva.us/> JIVA > Publications: <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> The Jyotish Digest â— <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> Sagittarius Publications > ------------------------- -- > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of jayachandran_revathi > Monday, November 06, 2006 12:06 AM > sohamsa > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > - > > dear sanjay ji > > i am not a jyothisha but i am inclined to jyothish these days . one > fo the audio tapes i heard for future planning one should worship > diety shown by 5th house .i have moon in 5th house(meen rashi ) which > diety is this . > retrograde shani in exalted as AK:what does this indicates in > spirituaality? > which diety is my ishta devatha > my details are shown below > tob:5-20 pm > place:kannur kerala > date 12 june 1985 > > -- In sohamsa@ <sohamsa% 40> .com, " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath@> wrote: > > > > | om gurave namah | > > Dear Jyotisha > > > > comments below > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > ------------------------- > > Personal: <http://srath. <http://srath.com/blog/> com/blog/> WebPages ¡ü > <http://srath. <http://srath.com/blog/> com/blog/> > > Rath¡Çs Rhapsody > > SJC WebPages: <http:// <http://.org/> ..org/> Sri Jagannath Center ¡ü > > <http://sjcerc. <http://sjcerc.com/> com/> SJCERC ¡ü <http://jiva. <http://jiva.us/> us/> JIVA > > Publications: <http://thejyotishdi <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> gest.com/> The Jyotish Digest ¡ü > > <http://sagittariusp <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> ublications.com/> Sagittarius Publications > > ------------------------- > -- > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> ..com [sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com] On > Behalf Of > > jayachandran_revathi > > Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:52 PM > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> ..com > > spiritual inclination > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://geo.. <http://geo./serv?> com/serv? > s=97359714/grpId=15659908/grpspId=1705082690/msgI > > d=8025/stime=1162650306/nc1=3848570/nc2=3848640/nc3=3848590> > > > > > > hello > > how can we predict spiritual inclination of a person through his > > horoscope? > > [s.Rath:] (1) AK, Ista, Dharma, Kula and Sthana Devata + Guru > devata in > > addition to (2) Lagna, dharma + Moksha trikona and (3) D1, D9, D20, > D24 and > > D60 charts > > > > what will tell the awakining of kundalini in a horoscope? > > [s.Rath:] 8th & 5th house in above mentioned charts. See examples > in COVA > > etc > > which combination will suggest the liberation from birth-rebirth > cycle > > (moksha) > > [s.Rath:] Parasara and others give some combinations but then I > think the > > death chart (punya) is more important than the birth chart > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast. <http://www.avast.com> com> : Outbound message clean. > > > > > > Virus Database (VPS): 0645-4, 11/03/2006 > > Tested on: 11/4/2006 8:33:50 PM > > avast! - copyright © 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. > > > Virus Database (VPS): 0645-4, 11/03/2006 > Tested on: 11/6/2006 12:38:54 AM > avast! - copyright © 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0645-4, 11/03/2006 Tested on: 11/6/2006 11:46:36 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Saurav, Thank you for your explanation. I am wondering if the worship is recommended to remedy the affliction of Venus or to help the native in his quest for spiritualism by praying to ishta devta. Rahu does have rashi drishti on karkamsa but so do Venus, Jupiter and Moon! Venus is aspecting own house. Jupiter is exalted but retro but also most advanced amongst them. It would be interesting to get an insight into Sanjayji's thoughts. Best Regards Ramesh souravc108 Sent by: sohamsa 11/07/2006 02:29 PM Please respond to sohamsa To sohamsa cc Subject Re: spiritual inclination || Hare Raama Krsna || || Durgaa Saranam || Dear Ramesh-ji, namaskar. Rahu is one of the grahas strongly aspecting the 12-th from Karakaamsa hence will be one of the deities who will lead him to Ishta-Devata. In Rasi Chart, 7th lord Sukra is afflicted by Rahu in the 6th house (MKS of Sukra) and must be resolved first in order to lead to harmonious relationship. Hence negativity of Rahu needs to be removed by worshipping Durgaa Mata. Clearly, Chandra in the 5th indicates that native has inherent bhakti for Mother form. Chandra is in Revati Nakshatra indicating Durgaa worship will purify his bhakti and lead to the right path. Notice that AK is in the 12-th house disposited by this afflicted Sukra (retrograde-exaltation gives debility result) and 7th house is afflicted by Paapakartari. This can ruin relationships. Clearly, as HL is present there with 10th lord Surya, this is of vital importance to the native. One more important point, Rahu is in 5th (trine) to Karakaamsa and hence dominates. Further, 12-th from KK is also 9th from Lagna and hence Rahu's aspect is not good as far as dharma is concerned. So worship of Mother Durgaa is very beneficial at this stage of life. May Guru Sanjay-ji rectify me on this matter. Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu. Best wishes, Sourav sohamsa , Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote: > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Sanjay ji, > I am unable to understand the significance of Rahu in this chart. Also > Moon is in Krishna paksha. Hope I have drawn up the chart correctly. > Kind regards > Ramesh > > > > > > > sanjayrath > Sent by: sohamsa > 11/06/2006 01:41 PM > Please respond to > sohamsa > > > To > sohamsa > cc > > Subject > RE: Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > > > > > | om gurave namah | > Dear Jayachandran > No. Annapoorna is associated with Venus while Durga is associated with the > sukla paksha of the Moon thereby controlling the negativity of Rahu. If > you see the chart of Sadhvi Rithambara it has Mina Lagna with Moon in 5th > as AK. > Now stop doubting and start reciting mantra. And slowly grow from > differentiation of Annapoorna and Durga and see Durga in every lady around > you. > Best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > > Personal: WebPages ? Rath?s Rhapsody > SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center ? SJCERC ? JIVA > Publications: The Jyotish Digest ? Sagittarius Publications > ---- > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf > Of jayachandran_revathi > Monday, November 06, 2006 8:43 PM > sohamsa > Re: spiritual inclination > > -- > dear sanjayji > > can i worship Annapoorna instead of durga.As my native place contins > annapoorna temple , and i am more inclined to annapoorna > devi > jayachandran > > - In sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " sanjayrath@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > | om gurave namah | > > Dear Jayachandran > > > > The deity is a form of the Divine Mother - start with Durga. Just > start chanting Her name for a few days all the time and see how life > changes for you. > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > ------------------------- > > Personal: <http://srath.com/blog/> WebPages â? > <http://srath.com/blog/> Rathâ??s Rhapsody > > SJC WebPages: <http://.org/> Sri Jagannath Center â? > <http://sjcerc.com/> SJCERC â? <http://jiva.us/> JIVA > > Publications: <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> The Jyotish Digest â? > <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> Sagittarius Publications > > ------------------------- > -- > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > Behalf Of jayachandran_revathi > > Monday, November 06, 2006 12:06 AM > > sohamsa > > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > > > - > > > > dear sanjay ji > > > > i am not a jyothisha but i am inclined to jyothish these days .. one > > fo the audio tapes i heard for future planning one should worship > > diety shown by 5th house .i have moon in 5th house(meen rashi ) > which > > diety is this . > > retrograde shani in exalted as AK:what does this indicates in > > spirituaality? > > which diety is my ishta devatha > > my details are shown below > > tob:5-20 pm > > place:kannur kerala > > date 12 june 1985 > > > > -- In sohamsa@ <sohamsa% > 40> .com, " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath@> wrote: > > > > > > | om gurave namah | > > > Dear Jyotisha > > > > > > comments below > > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > > Sanjay Rath > > > ------------------------- > > > Personal: <http://srath. <http://srath.com/blog/> com/blog/> > WebPages ¡ü > > <http://srath. <http://srath.com/blog/> com/blog/> > > > Rath¡Ã?s Rhapsody > > > SJC WebPages: <http:// > <http://.org/> .org/> Sri Jagannath Center ¡ü > > > <http://sjcerc. <http://sjcerc.com/> com/> SJCERC ¡ü > <http://jiva. <http://jiva.us/> us/> JIVA > > > Publications: <http://thejyotishdi <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> > gest.com/> The Jyotish Digest ¡ü > > > <http://sagittariusp <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> > ublications.com/> Sagittarius Publications > > > ------------------------- > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> ..com > [sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> ..com] > On > > Behalf Of > > > jayachandran_revathi > > > Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:52 PM > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> ..com > > > spiritual inclination > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://geo.. <http://geo./serv?> com/serv? > > s=97359714/grpId=15659908/grpspId=1705082690/msgI > > > d=8025/stime=1162650306/nc1=3848570/nc2=3848640/nc3=3848590> > > > > > > > > > hello > > > how can we predict spiritual inclination of a person through his > > > horoscope? > > > [s.Rath:] (1) AK, Ista, Dharma, Kula and Sthana Devata + Guru > > devata in > > > addition to (2) Lagna, dharma + Moksha trikona and (3) D1, D9, > D20, > > D24 and > > > D60 charts > > > > > > what will tell the awakining of kundalini in a horoscope? > > > [s.Rath:] 8th & 5th house in above mentioned charts. See examples > > in COVA > > > etc > > > which combination will suggest the liberation from birth-rebirth > > cycle > > > (moksha) > > > [s.Rath:] Parasara and others give some combinations but then I > > think the > > > death chart (punya) is more important than the birth chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast. <http://www.avast.com> com> : > Outbound message clean. > > > > > > > > > Virus Database (VPS): 0645-4, 11/03/2006 > > > Tested on: 11/4/2006 8:33:50 PM > > > avast! - copyright © 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. > > > > > > Virus Database (VPS): 0645-4, 11/03/2006 > > Tested on: 11/6/2006 12:38:54 AM > > avast! - copyright © 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. > > > > > > > avast! 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Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Saurav, Thank you for your in-depth analysis. No disagreement on affliction of Venus. I am wondering if that was the starting point for recommending the remedy in this case. Is it essential to have involvement of Mars or Ketu in a curse? Neither is conjunct or aspecting Venus in this chart. Best regards Ramesh souravc108 Sent by: sohamsa 11/07/2006 11:04 PM Please respond to sohamsa To sohamsa cc Subject Re: spiritual inclination || Hare Raama Krsna || || Durgaa Saranam || Dear Ramesh-ji, namaskar. The primary problem in this chart is that Sukra is under curse and 7th house is afflicted (karaka is afflicted, lord is afflicted and the house itself has a malefic and is under paapakartaari). The native will suffer likely in job as well as 10th lord is posited in the 7th house. This can bring emotional relationship with a person from job side. This is happening in the 4th from AL and can hamper happiness. This is primary concern and needs to be rectified. Rahu with Sukra in Martian sign in the 6th is not good at all and will bring in wrong kind of association as Rahu is 5th from Navaamsa lagna and indicates emotional relationship as well. So Rahu needs to be eliminated first. Now, AK is also involved in the curse and and AK is in sign of Sukra and Sukra is under affliction of Rahu. Normally if Sukra is in MKS, then the kaaraka of that house is to be strengthened. Here Kaaraka (Sani) is himself involved and weak. So Rahu is primary culprit. Rahu governing the nakshatra of Chandra and is sitting 2nd to it giving argala. This will cause strange emotions also. Now, for Ishtadevata, devata of any of the grahas (preferably the stronger one) aspecting the 12-th from KK is to be worshipped which will invariably lead to the final form. Rahu happens to be Dharma devata and is also aspecting 12-th, so, with given affliction in the natal chart, Rahu (i.e. Durgaa Mata) is a good choice to start. This will relieve his emotional situation and also provide guidance in his spiritual life. Perhaps Durgaa is not the ultimate form of Ishta devata but being Dharma Devataa, he must continue this worship. He should also be careful about being in relationship with elder/married ladies. The native is in Sukra-Surya dasa (Vimsottari-Chandra Sphuta) and his Ketu-Sani (Moola Dasa) will start after May next year, after which there is Sukra Moola Dasa. To me these are all pointing to disappointments in relationships which can cause upset emotional make-up. Again, lets wait for Sanjay-ji's further guidance on this matter. Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu, Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================ sohamsa , Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote: > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Saurav, > Thank you for your explanation. I am wondering if the worship is > recommended to remedy the affliction of Venus or to help the native in his > quest for spiritualism by praying to ishta devta. Rahu does have rashi > drishti on karkamsa but so do Venus, Jupiter and Moon! Venus is aspecting > own house. Jupiter is exalted but retro but also most advanced amongst > them. It would be interesting to get an insight into Sanjayji's thoughts. > Best Regards > Ramesh > > > > > > souravc108 > Sent by: sohamsa > 11/07/2006 02:29 PM > Please respond to > sohamsa > > > To > sohamsa > cc > > Subject > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > || Durgaa Saranam || > > Dear Ramesh-ji, > namaskar. Rahu is one of the grahas > strongly aspecting the 12-th from Karakaamsa hence will be one of the > deities who will lead him to Ishta-Devata. In Rasi Chart, 7th lord Sukra > is afflicted by Rahu in the 6th house (MKS of Sukra) and must be resolved > first in order to lead to harmonious relationship. Hence negativity of > Rahu needs to be removed by worshipping Durgaa Mata. Clearly, Chandra in > the 5th indicates that native has inherent bhakti for Mother form. Chandra > is in Revati Nakshatra indicating Durgaa worship will purify his bhakti > and lead to the right path. Notice that AK is in the 12-th house > disposited by this afflicted Sukra (retrograde-exaltation gives debility > result) and 7th house is afflicted by Paapakartari. This can ruin > relationships. Clearly, as HL is present there with 10th lord Surya, this > is of vital importance to the native. One more important point, Rahu is in > 5th (trine) to Karakaamsa and hence dominates. Further, 12-th from KK is > also 9th from Lagna and hence Rahu's aspect is not good as far as dharma > is concerned. So worship of Mother Durgaa is very beneficial at this stage > of life. > > May Guru Sanjay-ji rectify me on this matter. > > Sarvam Durgaarpanamastu. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > sohamsa , Ramesh.F.Gangaramani@ wrote: > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > > > Dear Sanjay ji, > > I am unable to understand the significance of Rahu in this chart. Also > > Moon is in Krishna paksha. Hope I have drawn up the chart correctly. > > Kind regards > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanjayrath@ > > Sent by: sohamsa > > 11/06/2006 01:41 PM > > Please respond to > > sohamsa > > > > > > To > > sohamsa > > cc > > > > Subject > > RE: Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | om gurave namah | > > Dear Jayachandran > > No. Annapoorna is associated with Venus while Durga is associated with > the > > sukla paksha of the Moon thereby controlling the negativity of Rahu. If > > you see the chart of Sadhvi Rithambara it has Mina Lagna with Moon in > 5th > > as AK. > > Now stop doubting and start reciting mantra. And slowly grow from > > differentiation of Annapoorna and Durga and see Durga in every lady > around > > you. > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > > > Personal: WebPages ? Rath?s Rhapsody > > SJC WebPages: Sri Jagannath Center ? SJCERC ? JIVA > > Publications: The Jyotish Digest ? Sagittarius Publications > > ---- > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf > > > Of jayachandran_revathi > > Monday, November 06, 2006 8:43 PM > > sohamsa > > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > -- > > dear sanjayji > > > > can i worship Annapoorna instead of durga.As my native place contins > > annapoorna temple , and i am more inclined to annapoorna > > devi > > jayachandran > > > > - In sohamsa , " Sanjay Rath " sanjayrath@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | om gurave namah | > > > Dear Jayachandran > > > > > > The deity is a form of the Divine Mother - start with Durga. Just > > start chanting Her name for a few days all the time and see how life > > changes for you. > > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > > Sanjay Rath > > > ------------------------- > > > Personal: <http://srath.com/blog/> WebPages â? > > <http://srath.com/blog/> Rathâ??s Rhapsody > > > SJC WebPages: <http://.org/> Sri Jagannath Center â? > > <http://sjcerc.com/> SJCERC â? <http://jiva.us/> JIVA > > > Publications: <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> The Jyotish Digest â? > > <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> Sagittarius Publications > > > ------------------------- > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On > > Behalf Of jayachandran_revathi > > > Monday, November 06, 2006 12:06 AM > > > sohamsa > > > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > dear sanjay ji > > > > > > i am not a jyothisha but i am inclined to jyothish these days . one > > > fo the audio tapes i heard for future planning one should worship > > > diety shown by 5th house .i have moon in 5th house(meen rashi ) > > which > > > diety is this . > > > retrograde shani in exalted as AK:what does this indicates in > > > spirituaality? > > > which diety is my ishta devatha > > > my details are shown below > > > tob:5-20 pm > > > place:kannur kerala > > > date 12 june 1985 > > > > > > -- In sohamsa@ <sohamsa% > > 40> .com, " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > | om gurave namah | > > > > Dear Jyotisha > > > > > > > > comments below > > > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > ------------------------- > > > > Personal: <http://srath. <http://srath.com/blog/> com/blog/> > > WebPages ¡ü > > > <http://srath. <http://srath.com/blog/> com/blog/> > > > > Rath¡Ã?s Rhapsody > > > > SJC WebPages: <http:// > > <http://.org/> .org/> Sri Jagannath Center ¡ü > > > > <http://sjcerc. <http://sjcerc.com/> com/> SJCERC ¡ü > > <http://jiva. <http://jiva.us/> us/> JIVA > > > > Publications: <http://thejyotishdi <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> > > gest.com/> The Jyotish Digest ¡ü > > > > <http://sagittariusp <http://sagittariuspublications.com/> > > ublications.com/> Sagittarius Publications > > > > ------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> ..com > > [sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> ..com] > > On > > > Behalf Of > > > > jayachandran_revathi > > > > Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:52 PM > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> ..com > > > > spiritual inclination > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://geo.. <http://geo./serv?> com/serv? > > > s=97359714/grpId=15659908/grpspId=1705082690/msgI > > > > d=8025/stime=1162650306/nc1=3848570/nc2=3848640/nc3=3848590> > > > > > > > > > > > > hello > > > > how can we predict spiritual inclination of a person through his > > > > horoscope? > > > > [s.Rath:] (1) AK, Ista, Dharma, Kula and Sthana Devata + Guru > > > devata in > > > > addition to (2) Lagna, dharma + Moksha trikona and (3) D1, D9, > > D20, > > > D24 and > > > > D60 charts > > > > > > > > what will tell the awakining of kundalini in a horoscope? > > > > [s.Rath:] 8th & 5th house in above mentioned charts. 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Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Dear Sheevani and All, //The position of the Chara Atmakaraka in Navamsha (Karakamsha) provides vital clues to the level of spirituality of the soul// In keeping with the intention of the group we should take the Jaimini Chara Karakas out of the equation. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " sheevani147 " <sheevani147 <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:37 PM Re: spiritual inclination Namaste all. This is how I assess spirituality, but of course, there are many, many more knowledgeable persons here and I welcome their imput and direction. The main houses for spirituality are : (i) 5th House (Purva Punya), (ii)9th House (Bhagya Sthana). (iii) 8th(spiritual inclination) and 12th (meditation) houses also should be considered (iv)The Moksha Trikona (houses 4th,8th and 12th houses are very significant in this respect) The points to be considered are : (a)Grahas occupying these houses (b)Aspecting these houses ©Positions of Lords of these houses The main Grahas for spirituality are Guru,Shani Maharaj and Ketu (These have to be studied in depth) The position of the Chara Atmakaraka in Navamsha (Karakamsha) provides vital clues to the level of spirituality of the soul warmest regards Sheevani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Dear Bhaskar Its is said that where there is anger, " absolutely " nothing else remains. Progress of a man/woman is directly related to his control on sense gratification, and anger is the worst sense gratification possible, so says the scriptures. Regards -m- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish jyotish-vidya Saturday, 5 July, 2008 10:36:55 PM Re: spiritual inclination Thanks for the appreciation. All due to the Gurus I have the good opportunity to mingle with . My scales of being a normal astrologer too are very high, and I recah nowhere near them. I have some bad habits like impulsiveness anger and abusive language when provoked,and so many other matters where I need change. God knows, but I know this much that i do not touch even from distance , to the tenets mentioned in the classics, for what a astrologer must be. yes but God is with me, in astrology. I get scared nowadays when posting mails, because i know i write long. But dont know how to mention all what i want to, in short. thanks again. Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > Thank you so much for the post. You are the best :-). I adore reading > your long mails; please do keep up the good work. > > Regards, > Manasa. > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Bhaskar ji You wrote " I have some bad habits like impulsiveness anger and abusive language when provoked " . In general life teaches everyone how to do manage things, sooner or later, as per fate. But since you are explicitly asking for solution, let me put in a few cents, if it helps. Anger is best controlled by leading a good overall balanced life. For abusive language, probably more repetition of gods name or keeping guru gracious image in mind should help. Most people who have anger related issues have affliction to mars or mars energy is not properly channeled. Anger may also arise due to health related imbalances or various frustrations. Since you are an astrologer and advice others also, I hope you can check the same for yourself and take remedial steps. Regards -m- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish jyotish-vidya Saturday, 5 July, 2008 11:21:49 PM Re: spiritual inclination Dear Monica, Yes I agree. There are 3 offshoots of the bark. 1) Knowledge of something as good or bad. 2) Acceptance of this knowledge as the truth. 3) Acting in accordance with the required line of action, after this knowledge derived For instance, We all know that meditation is good. I personally accept it as good. But do I do it in my regular Life ? Thus, knowing, accepting and acting, are 3 seperate matters. Another example. All cigarette smokers know that Smoking causes Cancer. They accept it. But do all leave it ? So Monica I know anger, is bad, all of us here know how bad anger is, so we better not talk about its disadvantages , but show techniques how to curb it. That also, only if you are practising the same. best wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, monica Astro <monicaastro80@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar > Its is said that where there is anger, " absolutely " nothing else remains. > Progress of a man/woman is directly related to his control on sense gratification, > and anger is the worst sense gratification possible, so says the scriptures. > Regards > -m- > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > jyotish-vidya > Saturday, 5 July, 2008 10:36:55 PM > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > Thanks for the appreciation. All due to > the Gurus I have the good opportunity to > mingle with . > > My scales of being a normal astrologer > too are very high, and I recah nowhere near > them. I have some bad habits like > impulsiveness anger and abusive > language when provoked,and so many > other matters where I need change. God > knows, but I know this much that i do not > touch even from distance , to the > tenets mentioned in the classics, for what > a astrologer must be. > > yes but God is with me, in astrology. > > I get scared nowadays when posting mails, > because i know i write long. But dont > know how to mention all what i want to, > in short. > > thanks again. > Bhaskar. > > jyotish-vidya, " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > Thank you so much for the post. You are the best :-). I adore reading > > your long mails; please do keep up the good work. > > > > Regards, > > Manasa. > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Bhaskar ji Seems you forget rather quickly, what you write. > So Monica I know anger, is bad, all of us here > know how bad anger is, so we better not talk about > its disadvantages , but show techniques how to > curb it. Your ideas ideas regarding keeping ego low is well appreciated. -m- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish jyotish-vidya Sunday, 6 July, 2008 12:50:07 AM Re: spiritual inclination Dear Monica, I am not looking for any solutions from anybody, and I dont even know you. But I am not even looking for solutions from anybody who has not realised ( Not that I know of ). but all the same thank You. Anger is one of the most ordinary bad traits among people, and does not need any discussion or any lecture about the dos and donts.It is also one of the hardest to control, after Lust. So who are we to advice anybody ? Unless we are known as REALISED. Now what I did in my mail, was just noting down my bad habits, because the writer had called me the best. To break'the EGO, before it comes in, I wrote what I did. We need to do it once in a while as astrologers, if our feet has to be firmly planted on the ground. If the person who has praised me, does not know about my deficiencies, it is my duty to point it out to him/her, before his/her praise gets on my head, and I go into a false self exhilirating utopian fantasy world and sit atop on a self made seat of a Guru. The Realised would realise it, what I realised and wrote. Period. Thanks. Hope this concludes the thread. Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, monica Astro <monicaastro80@ ...> wrote: > > Bhaskar ji > > You wrote " I have some bad habits like impulsiveness anger and abusive language when provoked " . > > In general life teaches everyone how to do manage things, sooner or later, as per fate. > But since you are explicitly asking for solution, let me put in a few cents, if it helps. > > Anger is best controlled by leading a good overall balanced life. > For abusive language, probably more repetition of gods name or keeping guru gracious image in mind should help. > > Most people who have anger related issues have affliction to mars or mars energy is not properly channeled. > Anger may also arise due to health related imbalances or various frustrations. > > Since you are an astrologer and advice others also, I hope you can check the same for yourself and take remedial steps. > > Regards > -m- > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > jyotish-vidya > Saturday, 5 July, 2008 11:21:49 PM > Re: spiritual inclination > > > Dear Monica, > > Yes I agree. > > There are 3 offshoots of the bark. > 1) Knowledge of something as good or bad. > 2) Acceptance of this knowledge as the truth. > 3) Acting in accordance with the required > line of action, after this knowledge derived > > For instance, > We all know that meditation is good. > I personally accept it as good. > But do I do it in my regular Life ? > > Thus, knowing, accepting and acting, > are 3 seperate matters. > > Another example. > All cigarette smokers know that Smoking > causes Cancer. > They accept it. > But do all leave it ? > > So Monica I know anger, is bad, all of us here > know how bad anger is, so we better not talk about > its disadvantages , but show techniques how to > curb it. That also, only if you are practising > the same. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > jyotish-vidya, monica Astro > <monicaastro80@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar > > Its is said that where there is anger, " absolutely " nothing else > remains. > > Progress of a man/woman is directly related to his control on sense > gratification, > > and anger is the worst sense gratification possible, so says the > scriptures. > > Regards > > -m- > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > jyotish-vidya > > Saturday, 5 July, 2008 10:36:55 PM > > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > > > Thanks for the appreciation. All due to > > the Gurus I have the good opportunity to > > mingle with . > > > > My scales of being a normal astrologer > > too are very high, and I recah nowhere near > > them. I have some bad habits like > > impulsiveness anger and abusive > > language when provoked,and so many > > other matters where I need change. God > > knows, but I know this much that i do not > > touch even from distance , to the > > tenets mentioned in the classics, for what > > a astrologer must be. > > > > yes but God is with me, in astrology. > > > > I get scared nowadays when posting mails, > > because i know i write long. But dont > > know how to mention all what i want to, > > in short. > > > > thanks again. > > Bhaskar. > > > > jyotish-vidya, " m2sangeeth " > <m2sangeeth@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > Thank you so much for the post. You are the best :-). I adore > reading > > > your long mails; please do keep up the good work. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Manasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go > to http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Monica, this is the first time i see your name in this site, do not add gas to the fire and please respect what he had asked: //Thanks. Hope this concludes the thread. Bhaskar. // Eligio --- On Sat, 7/5/08, monica Astro <monicaastro80 wrote: monica Astro <monicaastro80 Re: Re: spiritual inclination jyotish-vidya Saturday, July 5, 2008, 2:58 PM Bhaskar ji Seems you forget rather quickly, what you write. > So Monica I know anger, is bad, all of us here > know how bad anger is, so we better not talk about > its disadvantages , but show techniques how to > curb it. Your ideas ideas regarding keeping ego low is well appreciated. -m- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> jyotish-vidya Sunday, 6 July, 2008 12:50:07 AM Re: spiritual inclination Dear Monica, I am not looking for any solutions from anybody, and I dont even know you. But I am not even looking for solutions from anybody who has not realised ( Not that I know of ). but all the same thank You. Anger is one of the most ordinary bad traits among people, and does not need any discussion or any lecture about the dos and donts.It is also one of the hardest to control, after Lust. So who are we to advice anybody ? Unless we are known as REALISED. Now what I did in my mail, was just noting down my bad habits, because the writer had called me the best. To break'the EGO, before it comes in, I wrote what I did. We need to do it once in a while as astrologers, if our feet has to be firmly planted on the ground. If the person who has praised me, does not know about my deficiencies, it is my duty to point it out to him/her, before his/her praise gets on my head, and I go into a false self exhilirating utopian fantasy world and sit atop on a self made seat of a Guru. The Realised would realise it, what I realised and wrote. Period. Thanks. Hope this concludes the thread. Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, monica Astro <monicaastro80@ ...> wrote: > > Bhaskar ji > > You wrote " I have some bad habits like impulsiveness anger and abusive language when provoked " . > > In general life teaches everyone how to do manage things, sooner or later, as per fate. > But since you are explicitly asking for solution, let me put in a few cents, if it helps. > > Anger is best controlled by leading a good overall balanced life. > For abusive language, probably more repetition of gods name or keeping guru gracious image in mind should help. > > Most people who have anger related issues have affliction to mars or mars energy is not properly channeled. > Anger may also arise due to health related imbalances or various frustrations. > > Since you are an astrologer and advice others also, I hope you can check the same for yourself and take remedial steps. > > Regards > -m- > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > jyotish-vidya > Saturday, 5 July, 2008 11:21:49 PM > Re: spiritual inclination > > > Dear Monica, > > Yes I agree. > > There are 3 offshoots of the bark. > 1) Knowledge of something as good or bad. > 2) Acceptance of this knowledge as the truth. > 3) Acting in accordance with the required > line of action, after this knowledge derived > > For instance, > We all know that meditation is good. > I personally accept it as good. > But do I do it in my regular Life ? > > Thus, knowing, accepting and acting, > are 3 seperate matters. > > Another example. > All cigarette smokers know that Smoking > causes Cancer. > They accept it. > But do all leave it ? > > So Monica I know anger, is bad, all of us here > know how bad anger is, so we better not talk about > its disadvantages , but show techniques how to > curb it. That also, only if you are practising > the same. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > jyotish-vidya, monica Astro > <monicaastro80@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar > > Its is said that where there is anger, " absolutely " nothing else > remains. > > Progress of a man/woman is directly related to his control on sense > gratification, > > and anger is the worst sense gratification possible, so says the > scriptures. > > Regards > > -m- > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > jyotish-vidya > > Saturday, 5 July, 2008 10:36:55 PM > > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > > > Thanks for the appreciation. All due to > > the Gurus I have the good opportunity to > > mingle with . > > > > My scales of being a normal astrologer > > too are very high, and I recah nowhere near > > them. I have some bad habits like > > impulsiveness anger and abusive > > language when provoked,and so many > > other matters where I need change. God > > knows, but I know this much that i do not > > touch even from distance , to the > > tenets mentioned in the classics, for what > > a astrologer must be. > > > > yes but God is with me, in astrology. > > > > I get scared nowadays when posting mails, > > because i know i write long. But dont > > know how to mention all what i want to, > > in short. > > > > thanks again. > > Bhaskar. > > > > jyotish-vidya, " m2sangeeth " > <m2sangeeth@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > Thank you so much for the post. You are the best :-). I adore > reading > > > your long mails; please do keep up the good work. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Manasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go > to http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Dear Sheevani, Pardon is easily granted so please don't be concerned at all. I hesitated to mention it but my concern (always) is for the novice astrologers who may still be struggling to (fully) understand the differences between the two systems. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " sheevani147 " <sheevani147 <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, July 05, 2008 10:28 PM Re: spiritual inclination Dear Mrs Wendyji. Namaste.. Kindly pardon my oversight in bringing jaimini charakarkas.. I stand corrected.. warmest regards Sheevani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Dear Monica, Many of our members have been with us for several years. Over which time we've got to know and understand each other's personalities almost like family members. I understand it can take new members some time to get to know this little jyotish family and I do hope you will stick around long enough to do so :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " monica Astro " <monicaastro80 <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, July 06, 2008 3:58 AM Re: Re: spiritual inclination Bhaskar ji Seems you forget rather quickly, what you write. > So Monica I know anger, is bad, all of us here > know how bad anger is, so we better not talk about > its disadvantages , but show techniques how to > curb it. Your ideas ideas regarding keeping ego low is well appreciated. -m- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Bhaskar Ji Ii is surprising that you are so interested after a new lady who has joined this group. I have friends interested in astrology in this group who suggested me to join this group and 4-5 others groups. I hope you donot have any issues with how I manage my email from different places. You wrote " " You also seem to be from calcutta. If I can have your contact address and full name " Is there any good reason for my sharing personal details with you or online or with strangers? If its a pre-requisite to share personal details before talking in this group, I shall wait for owners comments in this regard. Kindly ask what is proper and remain within the confines of a gentleman's conduct. Kindly drop the " Dear " you put before my name. -m- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish jyotish-vidya Sunday, 6 July, 2008 1:46:08 AM Re: spiritual inclination Dear Monica, I am also surprised by Your intelligence and confidence in astrology and about me, that afflicted Mars could be influencing My Chart to cause this, though your id " Monica astro80 " was created just yesterday. You also seem to be from calcutta. If I can have your contact address and full name, I can guide you to a Gold medallist there from West bengal, who is my friend and a well known astrologer in Calcutta.I also know a young lad , Mr. Gaurav who within his first year of astrology studies write great articles on Divisional Charts. Do let me know. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Monica, > > I am beginning to understand why you are here. > I am not asking YOU to show techniques , > but its better than talking negatives is > what I meant, if at all my initial > mail was to be replied by You. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > jyotish-vidya, monica Astro > <monicaastro80@ > wrote: > > > > Bhaskar ji > > > > Seems you forget rather quickly, what you write. > > > > > So Monica I know anger, is bad, all of us here > > > know how bad anger is, so we better not talk about > > > its disadvantages , but show techniques how to > > > curb it. > > > > Your ideas ideas regarding keeping ego low is well appreciated. > > > > -m- > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008 12:50:07 AM > > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > Dear Monica, > > > > I am not looking for any solutions from > > anybody, > > and I dont even know you. > > But I am not even looking for solutions > > from anybody who has not > > realised ( Not that I know of ). > > but all the same thank You. > > > > Anger is one of the most ordinary bad > > traits among people, and does not need > > any discussion or any lecture > > about the dos and donts.It is also one > > of the hardest to control, > > after Lust. So who are we to advice anybody ? > > Unless we are known as REALISED. > > > > Now what I did in my mail, was just > > noting down my bad habits, because the > > writer had called me the best. To break'the > > EGO, before it comes in, I wrote what I did. > > We need to do it once in a while as > > astrologers, if our feet has to be firmly > > planted on the ground. If the person who > > has praised me, does not know about my > > deficiencies, it is my duty to > > point it out to him/her, before his/her > > praise gets on my head, and I go > > into a false self exhilirating utopian > > fantasy world and sit atop on a self > > made seat of a Guru. > > > > The Realised would realise it, what I > > realised and wrote. > > > > Period. > > > > Thanks. > > Hope this concludes the thread. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > jyotish-vidya, monica Astro > > <monicaastro80@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar ji > > > > > > You wrote " I have some bad habits like impulsiveness anger and > > abusive language when provoked " . > > > > > > In general life teaches everyone how to do manage things, sooner > or > > later, as per fate. > > > But since you are explicitly asking for solution, let me put in a > > few cents, if it helps. > > > > > > Anger is best controlled by leading a good overall balanced life. > > > For abusive language, probably more repetition of gods name or > > keeping guru gracious image in mind should help. > > > > > > Most people who have anger related issues have affliction to mars > > or mars energy is not properly channeled. > > > Anger may also arise due to health related imbalances or various > > frustrations. > > > > > > Since you are an astrologer and advice others also, I hope you > can > > check the same for yourself and take remedial steps. > > > > > > Regards > > > -m- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > jyotish-vidya > > > Saturday, 5 July, 2008 11:21:49 PM > > > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > > > > Dear Monica, > > > > > > Yes I agree. > > > > > > There are 3 offshoots of the bark. > > > 1) Knowledge of something as good or bad. > > > 2) Acceptance of this knowledge as the truth. > > > 3) Acting in accordance with the required > > > line of action, after this knowledge derived > > > > > > For instance, > > > We all know that meditation is good. > > > I personally accept it as good. > > > But do I do it in my regular Life ? > > > > > > Thus, knowing, accepting and acting, > > > are 3 seperate matters. > > > > > > Another example. > > > All cigarette smokers know that Smoking > > > causes Cancer. > > > They accept it. > > > But do all leave it ? > > > > > > So Monica I know anger, is bad, all of us here > > > know how bad anger is, so we better not talk about > > > its disadvantages , but show techniques how to > > > curb it. That also, only if you are practising > > > the same. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, monica Astro > > > <monicaastro80@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar > > > > Its is said that where there is anger, " absolutely " nothing > else > > > remains. > > > > Progress of a man/woman is directly related to his control on > > sense > > > gratification, > > > > and anger is the worst sense gratification possible, so says > the > > > scriptures. > > > > Regards > > > > -m- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > Saturday, 5 July, 2008 10:36:55 PM > > > > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the appreciation. All due to > > > > the Gurus I have the good opportunity to > > > > mingle with . > > > > > > > > My scales of being a normal astrologer > > > > too are very high, and I recah nowhere near > > > > them. I have some bad habits like > > > > impulsiveness anger and abusive > > > > language when provoked,and so many > > > > other matters where I need change. God > > > > knows, but I know this much that i do not > > > > touch even from distance , to the > > > > tenets mentioned in the classics, for what > > > > a astrologer must be. > > > > > > > > yes but God is with me, in astrology. > > > > > > > > I get scared nowadays when posting mails, > > > > because i know i write long. But dont > > > > know how to mention all what i want to, > > > > in short. > > > > > > > > thanks again. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, " m2sangeeth " > > > <m2sangeeth@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for the post. You are the best :-). I adore > > > reading > > > > > your long mails; please do keep up the good work. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Manasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. > > Go > > > to http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Dear Monica, //I hope you donot have any issues with how I manage my email from different places.// Unfortunately the owner of this group (yours truly) does have an issue with the way you manage your emails here. You're being deliberately confrontational in regards to one particular member and I would like it to stop. //If its a pre-requisite to share personal details before talking in this group, I shall wait for owners comments in this regard.// No, it's not a pre-requisite, but perhaps it should be. It would be courteous if members were to introduce themselves to the group... As Col. Chandran did in his first mail when he introduced himself thus; " I am retired Army Officer from Corps of Engineers, Indian Army. I am new to this group. " This is courteous and much appreciated by the group as we immediately have some idea who we're talking to. //Kindly ask what is proper and remain within the confines of a gentleman's conduct. Kindly drop the " Dear " you put before my name.// It's the polite custom of this group to address people with the prefix 'Dear'...it could be considered somewhat disrespectful not to do so. To date no one but you has had an issue with this. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " monica Astro " <monicaastro80 <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:13 PM Re: Re: spiritual inclination Bhaskar Ji Ii is surprising that you are so interested after a new lady who has joined this group. I have friends interested in astrology in this group who suggested me to join this group and 4-5 others groups. I hope you donot have any issues with how I manage my email from different places. You wrote " " You also seem to be from calcutta. If I can have your contact address and full name " Is there any good reason for my sharing personal details with you or online or with strangers? If its a pre-requisite to share personal details before talking in this group, I shall wait for owners comments in this regard. Kindly ask what is proper and remain within the confines of a gentleman's conduct. Kindly drop the " Dear " you put before my name. -m- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 I believe that those who are into astrology are already spiritually inclined, but on different rungs of the ladder of spiritual development and, then awakening the ethereal spiritual chakras of the body, may be now or in the next life. The reincarnation continues. There is no going back. In this regard our astrology community is very fortunate. Babu. Bhaskar Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:43 PM jyotish-vidya Re: spiritual inclination Dear Sheevaniji, You make me emotional with that mail. I have had the good fortune to learn with many Gurus, and 2 among them were so good and generous, who never kept back any secrets,that if given an opportunity i would not mind washing their feet with water and drinking the water ( may sound repulsive as a modern educated , but as a humble indian shishya- student I am ever ready).Those were my idols and I learnt actual astrology from them and benefitted, so now its my turn to give back all, to those who crave for the same. This is the " pratha " prevealent in India just like the " Katha " which must be shared and spoken to the younger generations, so, that the Kathakaar, Vachak and the Shrota ( Writer-Speaker and the Listener) are all blessed. A person who shares the bounties which he has, is given back by nature in multifolds, today or tomorrow, there is no iota of doubt about that, which I have experienced in astrology field too. kind regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " sheevani147 " <sheevani147 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > Namaste. > > Thank you very much for giving so much more detailed information on > assessing spirituality. > > You are a very generous teacher and I admire your ever-willingness to > share knowledge.. May God bless you with higher knowledge in > abundance.. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > > jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > > > Spirituality > > ( As taught by one of My Gurus ) > > > > The Planet connected to Lagna ( Either the Lagna > > Lord or the planet sitting in it ) if- > > 1) connected with 9th house, and if 9th jouse > > connected with 1st House, and also connected with > > Jupiter ( Connection means influence of Jupiter > > through any ways, aspect, Lordship or whatever ), > > indicates that native has faith in religion. > > > > 2) If Planet connected to 9th ( Either 9th lord or > > planet in it ) , if connected to 4th,8th and 12th, > > then one can go for Bhakti Marg. > > > > 3) 9th connected with 2,6 or 10th houses then, Karma marg. > > > > 4) 9th connected with 3,7, or 11th House, then Gyan Marg. > > > > 5) 9th connected with 1,5 or 9th , then Meditation & Mantras. > > > > 6) 9th connected with Jupiter, or Mercury, then native will > > join any religious institute as preacher,teacher,or Lecturere. > > > > 7) 9th connected with venus, then native may play > > music for religious charity purpose etc. > > > > 8) 9th connected with Venus and saturn, > > then native will go for constructions of temple, > > church or ashrams etc. > > > > 9) If 1st or 9th afflicted with Rahu and Jupiter, then native > > may either go for change of religion, or also follow dictums > > of another religion. > > > > 10) If 9th connected with 5,9,10 and 11 and also > > connected with Ketu and Jupiter,, > > then Native will become spiritual preacher. > > > > 11) If 1st connected with ketu and Saturn, with 9th , > > indicate spiritual progress,, if it is also connected > > with 3,9 and 12, then native will become Sanyasi. > > > > 12) If 1st connected with ketu and 9th, and also > > having good combination of Mars and venus, then native, > > would behave like a Sanyaasi at Home. > > > > 13) 9th conected with 2,6,10 or 3,7,11 and also connected > > with Mars, mercury and Uranus ( Sorry for bringing this in > > Vedic Group , please excuse ), then native will criticise religion. > > > > 14) If 5th or 11th connected with 5,10 and 11th, and also > > connected with Saturn,Jupiter and ketu, then native will get > > some Siddhi. > > > > 15) 5th connected with 5,10 and 11, with Saturn, then > > Mantra siddhi. > > > > 16) If 5th connected with Rahu, then native would be interested > > in Tantra Pooja. > > > > 17) If 5th is afflicted or connected with barren sign, then native > > will not get positive results. > > > > 18) Moon and saturn combination give faith in religion. > > > > 19) If Jupiter and Moon both are afflicted, then > > native must not take to Tantra. > > > > 20) Worship- If 5th connected to - > > Sun - Surya Pooja or Gayatri Mantra. > > Moon - Devi Pooja or Kuldevi Pooja. > > Mars - Ganesh or Kartikeya Pooja > > Mercury - Vishnu Pooja > > Jupiter - Brahma or Dattatreya > > Venus - Devi Pooja or Lakshmi Pooja > > Saturn - Hanuman Pooja. > > Rahu - Naag Pooja or Shankar Pooja. > > Ketu - Shankar Pooja. > > > > The above is not exhaustive, but hope > > would help some of the readers. Now Moon > > if 12th Lord and sitting in 4th would naturally create > > detachment while Saturn also in 4th or influencing > > it would create detachment. The 12th lord connected > > to any House, would play the role of denial in ost > > of the cases if not all, in producing > > the desired results of that house. In most > > of the Vairaagis or Sanyaasis, the 4th house of > > domestic Bliss, has to give away, or pave way for the native > > to look at other places for comfort zones , as the Home > > does not provide so, because it is but > > natural, that if the Home had provided > > all the pleasures, then why would > > he have left his House. But of course not in all > > cases. Like Lord Buddha had all the pleasures of the > > palace as pronce Yashodhana ( I hope I remember the > > name right ), and same with King Yayati, or > > Janakji. Here barring Lord buddha the other two > > were of this world and yet detached after a > > certain point of time. Again Raja yayati realised > > late the futility of pleasures, > > while King janak was a true case of Grishasta > > Sanyaasi or if you do not like that word for him, then > > you may call him Grihasta bairaagi. > > > > We can go on and on with this discussion...... > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " poojasharma9 " > > <poojasharma9@> wrote: > > > > > > how to judge a person's spiritual quotient frm his horoscope? how > to > > > analyse spiritual growth prospects in a chart? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Dear Bhaskar, Thank you very much for your comforting message, much appreciated. Babu. Bhaskar Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:48 AM jyotish-vidya Re: spiritual inclination Dear Babu, Jai Shri Krishna. I remember when I started astrology, I had many bad habits , but as I continued with my studies, they kept on shedding off, slowly and gradually, and I am proud to say only a few remain, and whenever these surface , it leaves me with shame and repentance, because they bring along the knowledge that I am a astrologer and must behave like one. I am sure in time to come with the Lords Grace, even these few would leave me. This is the power of the study of a Divine science which makes a human being more Divine then what he is, and if he does his job honestly then some day perfect enough to be worthy of meeting the Perfect Divine, Godhead. I share with you,the pain of Your sister leaving You. remember that No one is gone completely. Of the Saptakosh, only one Kosha is gone. Just the body is gone. And its just a matter of time for us to join our beloved ones. Just 10-20 years here or there, evryone has to go one by one. If you have not read the " Autobiography of a Yogi " please read it, or if you have done then re-read it. It gives a lot of peace. Its there on the Links section in this group. YTou must also reda the " Garuda Purana " available from any Gita press shop. It gives details about what happens to a soul after leaving its body, and what are the duties of those remaining behind. Please forgive me if I have said more than necessary. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " Narendra " <naren.dra wrote: > > I believe that those who are into astrology are already spiritually inclined, but on different rungs of the ladder of spiritual development and, then awakening the ethereal spiritual chakras of the body, may be now or in the next life. The reincarnation continues. There is no going back. In this regard our astrology community is very fortunate. > > Babu. > > > > Bhaskar > Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:43 PM > jyotish-vidya > Re: spiritual inclination > > > Dear Sheevaniji, > > You make me emotional with that mail. > > I have had the good fortune to learn with many Gurus, > and 2 among them were so good and generous, who > never kept back any secrets,that if given an opportunity > i would not mind washing their feet with water > and drinking the water ( may sound repulsive as a > modern educated , but as a humble indian > shishya- student I am ever ready).Those were my > idols and I learnt actual astrology from them and > benefitted, so now its my turn to give back all, to > those who crave for the same. This is the " pratha " > prevealent in India just like the " Katha " which > must be shared and spoken to the > younger generations, so, that the Kathakaar, > Vachak and the Shrota ( Writer-Speaker > and the Listener) are all blessed. > > A person who shares the bounties which he has, > is given back by nature in multifolds, today > or tomorrow, there is no iota of doubt about > that, which I have experienced in astrology > field too. > > kind regards, > Bhaskar. > > jyotish-vidya , " sheevani147 " <sheevani147@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > Thank you very much for giving so much more detailed information on > > assessing spirituality. > > > > You are a very generous teacher and I admire your ever- willingness > to > > share knowledge.. May God bless you with higher knowledge in > > abundance.. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Spirituality > > > ( As taught by one of My Gurus ) > > > > > > The Planet connected to Lagna ( Either the Lagna > > > Lord or the planet sitting in it ) if- > > > 1) connected with 9th house, and if 9th jouse > > > connected with 1st House, and also connected with > > > Jupiter ( Connection means influence of Jupiter > > > through any ways, aspect, Lordship or whatever ), > > > indicates that native has faith in religion. > > > > > > 2) If Planet connected to 9th ( Either 9th lord or > > > planet in it ) , if connected to 4th,8th and 12th, > > > then one can go for Bhakti Marg. > > > > > > 3) 9th connected with 2,6 or 10th houses then, Karma marg. > > > > > > 4) 9th connected with 3,7, or 11th House, then Gyan Marg. > > > > > > 5) 9th connected with 1,5 or 9th , then Meditation & Mantras. > > > > > > 6) 9th connected with Jupiter, or Mercury, then native will > > > join any religious institute as preacher,teacher,or Lecturere. > > > > > > 7) 9th connected with venus, then native may play > > > music for religious charity purpose etc. > > > > > > 8) 9th connected with Venus and saturn, > > > then native will go for constructions of temple, > > > church or ashrams etc. > > > > > > 9) If 1st or 9th afflicted with Rahu and Jupiter, then native > > > may either go for change of religion, or also follow dictums > > > of another religion. > > > > > > 10) If 9th connected with 5,9,10 and 11 and also > > > connected with Ketu and Jupiter,, > > > then Native will become spiritual preacher. > > > > > > 11) If 1st connected with ketu and Saturn, with 9th , > > > indicate spiritual progress,, if it is also connected > > > with 3,9 and 12, then native will become Sanyasi. > > > > > > 12) If 1st connected with ketu and 9th, and also > > > having good combination of Mars and venus, then native, > > > would behave like a Sanyaasi at Home. > > > > > > 13) 9th conected with 2,6,10 or 3,7,11 and also connected > > > with Mars, mercury and Uranus ( Sorry for bringing this in > > > Vedic Group , please excuse ), then native will criticise > religion. > > > > > > 14) If 5th or 11th connected with 5,10 and 11th, and also > > > connected with Saturn,Jupiter and ketu, then native will get > > > some Siddhi. > > > > > > 15) 5th connected with 5,10 and 11, with Saturn, then > > > Mantra siddhi. > > > > > > 16) If 5th connected with Rahu, then native would be interested > > > in Tantra Pooja. > > > > > > 17) If 5th is afflicted or connected with barren sign, then native > > > will not get positive results. > > > > > > 18) Moon and saturn combination give faith in religion. > > > > > > 19) If Jupiter and Moon both are afflicted, then > > > native must not take to Tantra. > > > > > > 20) Worship- If 5th connected to - > > > Sun - Surya Pooja or Gayatri Mantra. > > > Moon - Devi Pooja or Kuldevi Pooja. > > > Mars - Ganesh or Kartikeya Pooja > > > Mercury - Vishnu Pooja > > > Jupiter - Brahma or Dattatreya > > > Venus - Devi Pooja or Lakshmi Pooja > > > Saturn - Hanuman Pooja. > > > Rahu - Naag Pooja or Shankar Pooja. > > > Ketu - Shankar Pooja. > > > > > > The above is not exhaustive, but hope > > > would help some of the readers. Now Moon > > > if 12th Lord and sitting in 4th would naturally create > > > detachment while Saturn also in 4th or influencing > > > it would create detachment. The 12th lord connected > > > to any House, would play the role of denial in ost > > > of the cases if not all, in producing > > > the desired results of that house. In most > > > of the Vairaagis or Sanyaasis, the 4th house of > > > domestic Bliss, has to give away, or pave way for the native > > > to look at other places for comfort zones , as the Home > > > does not provide so, because it is but > > > natural, that if the Home had provided > > > all the pleasures, then why would > > > he have left his House. But of course not in all > > > cases. Like Lord Buddha had all the pleasures of the > > > palace as pronce Yashodhana ( I hope I remember the > > > name right ), and same with King Yayati, or > > > Janakji. Here barring Lord buddha the other two > > > were of this world and yet detached after a > > > certain point of time. Again Raja yayati realised > > > late the futility of pleasures, > > > while King janak was a true case of Grishasta > > > Sanyaasi or if you do not like that word for him, then > > > you may call him Grihasta bairaagi. > > > > > > We can go on and on with this discussion...... > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " poojasharma9 " > > > <poojasharma9@> wrote: > > > > > > > > how to judge a person's spiritual quotient frm his horoscope? > how > > to > > > > analyse spiritual growth prospects in a chart? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 NO, no this is not boring. It gives strength. Thank you, Bhaskerji, Babu. Bhaskar Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:05 AM jyotish-vidya Re: spiritual inclination Dear Babu, Also get a path done of SrimadBhagavat Purana, Youmay ask in Your circle about who does it and then invite relatives to attend this path for 7 days, and it does have a benefic effect on the soul who has passed away. In case you cannot get it done in UK, then buy the Bhagavat purana yourself,and start reciting it daily 1-4 Chapters a little aloud in your room . before you start this path you must tell God " Hey Bhagwaan Main apni bahen ki shaanti ke liye yeh paath padh raha hoon . Aap kripya karega " ( Translated Oh Lord I am reciting this for the peace of my sisyters soul. Please bless her and us.) By the way my wife is reading this daily for 1 hour or so and whenever I get the time i sit with her and she reads aloud, and we discuss on the beautiful stories on God. She does this daily 1 hour before her favourite programme starts on TV. so the time is fixed but variable of course. Right now she is away, to her parents place, and I am missing both her and the beautiful glories of God. Wehave decided to read in tun one by one all the Puranas, including the Ramayana so that at least one hour is spent insatsanga and sitting together in these fast paced times. Sorry, if this was boring. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Babu, > Jai Shri Krishna. > > I remember when I started astrology, I had many > bad habits , but as I continued with my studies, > they kept on shedding off, slowly and gradually, > and I am proud to say only a few remain, and > whenever these surface , it leaves me with shame > and repentance, because they bring along the knowledge > that I am a astrologer and must behave like one. > > I am sure in time to come with the Lords Grace, > even these few would leave me. This is the > power of the study of a Divine science which makes > a human being more Divine then what he is, > and if he does his job honestly then some day > perfect enough to be worthy of meeting the > Perfect Divine, Godhead. > > I share with you,the pain of Your sister leaving > You. remember that No one is gone completely. > Of the Saptakosh, only one Kosha is gone. > Just the body is gone. And its just a matter of time > for us to join our beloved ones. Just 10-20 > years here or there, evryone has to go one by > one. If you have not read the " Autobiography > of a Yogi " please read it, or if you have > done then re-read it. It gives a lot of peace. > Its there on the Links section in this group. > YTou must also reda the " Garuda Purana " available > from any Gita press shop. It gives details about > what happens to a soul after leaving its body, and what > are the duties of those remaining behind. > Please forgive me if I have said more than necessary. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " Narendra " <naren.dra@> > wrote: > > > > I believe that those who are into astrology are already spiritually > inclined, but on different rungs of the ladder of spiritual > development and, then awakening the ethereal spiritual chakras of the > body, may be now or in the next life. The reincarnation continues. > There is no going back. In this regard our astrology community is > very fortunate. > > > > Babu. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:43 PM > > jyotish-vidya > > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > Dear Sheevaniji, > > > > You make me emotional with that mail. > > > > I have had the good fortune to learn with many Gurus, > > and 2 among them were so good and generous, who > > never kept back any secrets,that if given an opportunity > > i would not mind washing their feet with water > > and drinking the water ( may sound repulsive as a > > modern educated , but as a humble indian > > shishya- student I am ever ready).Those were my > > idols and I learnt actual astrology from them and > > benefitted, so now its my turn to give back all, to > > those who crave for the same. This is the " pratha " > > prevealent in India just like the " Katha " which > > must be shared and spoken to the > > younger generations, so, that the Kathakaar, > > Vachak and the Shrota ( Writer-Speaker > > and the Listener) are all blessed. > > > > A person who shares the bounties which he has, > > is given back by nature in multifolds, today > > or tomorrow, there is no iota of doubt about > > that, which I have experienced in astrology > > field too. > > > > kind regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > jyotish-vidya , " sheevani147 " <sheevani147@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > Thank you very much for giving so much more detailed information > on > > > assessing spirituality. > > > > > > You are a very generous teacher and I admire your ever- > willingness > > to > > > share knowledge.. May God bless you with higher knowledge in > > > abundance.. > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Spirituality > > > > ( As taught by one of My Gurus ) > > > > > > > > The Planet connected to Lagna ( Either the Lagna > > > > Lord or the planet sitting in it ) if- > > > > 1) connected with 9th house, and if 9th jouse > > > > connected with 1st House, and also connected with > > > > Jupiter ( Connection means influence of Jupiter > > > > through any ways, aspect, Lordship or whatever ), > > > > indicates that native has faith in religion. > > > > > > > > 2) If Planet connected to 9th ( Either 9th lord or > > > > planet in it ) , if connected to 4th,8th and 12th, > > > > then one can go for Bhakti Marg. > > > > > > > > 3) 9th connected with 2,6 or 10th houses then, Karma marg. > > > > > > > > 4) 9th connected with 3,7, or 11th House, then Gyan Marg. > > > > > > > > 5) 9th connected with 1,5 or 9th , then Meditation & Mantras. > > > > > > > > 6) 9th connected with Jupiter, or Mercury, then native will > > > > join any religious institute as preacher,teacher,or Lecturere. > > > > > > > > 7) 9th connected with venus, then native may play > > > > music for religious charity purpose etc. > > > > > > > > 8) 9th connected with Venus and saturn, > > > > then native will go for constructions of temple, > > > > church or ashrams etc. > > > > > > > > 9) If 1st or 9th afflicted with Rahu and Jupiter, then native > > > > may either go for change of religion, or also follow dictums > > > > of another religion. > > > > > > > > 10) If 9th connected with 5,9,10 and 11 and also > > > > connected with Ketu and Jupiter,, > > > > then Native will become spiritual preacher. > > > > > > > > 11) If 1st connected with ketu and Saturn, with 9th , > > > > indicate spiritual progress,, if it is also connected > > > > with 3,9 and 12, then native will become Sanyasi. > > > > > > > > 12) If 1st connected with ketu and 9th, and also > > > > having good combination of Mars and venus, then native, > > > > would behave like a Sanyaasi at Home. > > > > > > > > 13) 9th conected with 2,6,10 or 3,7,11 and also connected > > > > with Mars, mercury and Uranus ( Sorry for bringing this in > > > > Vedic Group , please excuse ), then native will criticise > > religion. > > > > > > > > 14) If 5th or 11th connected with 5,10 and 11th, and also > > > > connected with Saturn,Jupiter and ketu, then native will get > > > > some Siddhi. > > > > > > > > 15) 5th connected with 5,10 and 11, with Saturn, then > > > > Mantra siddhi. > > > > > > > > 16) If 5th connected with Rahu, then native would be interested > > > > in Tantra Pooja. > > > > > > > > 17) If 5th is afflicted or connected with barren sign, then > native > > > > will not get positive results. > > > > > > > > 18) Moon and saturn combination give faith in religion. > > > > > > > > 19) If Jupiter and Moon both are afflicted, then > > > > native must not take to Tantra. > > > > > > > > 20) Worship- If 5th connected to - > > > > Sun - Surya Pooja or Gayatri Mantra. > > > > Moon - Devi Pooja or Kuldevi Pooja. > > > > Mars - Ganesh or Kartikeya Pooja > > > > Mercury - Vishnu Pooja > > > > Jupiter - Brahma or Dattatreya > > > > Venus - Devi Pooja or Lakshmi Pooja > > > > Saturn - Hanuman Pooja. > > > > Rahu - Naag Pooja or Shankar Pooja. > > > > Ketu - Shankar Pooja. > > > > > > > > The above is not exhaustive, but hope > > > > would help some of the readers. Now Moon > > > > if 12th Lord and sitting in 4th would naturally create > > > > detachment while Saturn also in 4th or influencing > > > > it would create detachment. The 12th lord connected > > > > to any House, would play the role of denial in ost > > > > of the cases if not all, in producing > > > > the desired results of that house. In most > > > > of the Vairaagis or Sanyaasis, the 4th house of > > > > domestic Bliss, has to give away, or pave way for the native > > > > to look at other places for comfort zones , as the Home > > > > does not provide so, because it is but > > > > natural, that if the Home had provided > > > > all the pleasures, then why would > > > > he have left his House. But of course not in all > > > > cases. Like Lord Buddha had all the pleasures of the > > > > palace as pronce Yashodhana ( I hope I remember the > > > > name right ), and same with King Yayati, or > > > > Janakji. Here barring Lord buddha the other two > > > > were of this world and yet detached after a > > > > certain point of time. Again Raja yayati realised > > > > late the futility of pleasures, > > > > while King janak was a true case of Grishasta > > > > Sanyaasi or if you do not like that word for him, then > > > > you may call him Grihasta bairaagi. > > > > > > > > We can go on and on with this discussion...... > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " poojasharma9 " > > > > <poojasharma9@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > how to judge a person's spiritual quotient frm his horoscope? > > how > > > to > > > > > analyse spiritual growth prospects in a chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Dear Bhaskarji, I've saved this one to my hard drive astro reference folder as well! Thanks! - Vic On Jul 5, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Bhaskar wrote: > > Spirituality > ( As taught by one of My Gurus ) > > The Planet connected to Lagna ( Either the Lagna > Lord or the planet sitting in it ) if- > 1) connected with 9th house, and if 9th jouse > connected with 1st House, and also connected with > Jupiter ( Connection means influence of Jupiter > through any ways, aspect, Lordship or whatever ), > indicates that native has faith in religion. > > 2) If Planet connected to 9th ( Either 9th lord or > planet in it ) , if connected to 4th,8th and 12th, > then one can go for Bhakti Marg. > > 3) 9th connected with 2,6 or 10th houses then, Karma marg. > > 4) 9th connected with 3,7, or 11th House, then Gyan Marg. > > 5) 9th connected with 1,5 or 9th , then Meditation & Mantras. > > 6) 9th connected with Jupiter, or Mercury, then native will > join any religious institute as preacher,teacher,or Lecturere. > > 7) 9th connected with venus, then native may play > music for religious charity purpose etc. > > 8) 9th connected with Venus and saturn, > then native will go for constructions of temple, > church or ashrams etc. > > 9) If 1st or 9th afflicted with Rahu and Jupiter, then native > may either go for change of religion, or also follow dictums > of another religion. > > 10) If 9th connected with 5,9,10 and 11 and also > connected with Ketu and Jupiter,, > then Native will become spiritual preacher. > > 11) If 1st connected with ketu and Saturn, with 9th , > indicate spiritual progress,, if it is also connected > with 3,9 and 12, then native will become Sanyasi. > > 12) If 1st connected with ketu and 9th, and also > having good combination of Mars and venus, then native, > would behave like a Sanyaasi at Home. > > 13) 9th conected with 2,6,10 or 3,7,11 and also connected > with Mars, mercury and Uranus ( Sorry for bringing this in > Vedic Group , please excuse ), then native will criticise religion. > > 14) If 5th or 11th connected with 5,10 and 11th, and also > connected with Saturn,Jupiter and ketu, then native will get > some Siddhi. > > 15) 5th connected with 5,10 and 11, with Saturn, then > Mantra siddhi. > > 16) If 5th connected with Rahu, then native would be interested > in Tantra Pooja. > > 17) If 5th is afflicted or connected with barren sign, then native > will not get positive results. > > 18) Moon and saturn combination give faith in religion. > > 19) If Jupiter and Moon both are afflicted, then > native must not take to Tantra. > > 20) Worship- If 5th connected to - > Sun - Surya Pooja or Gayatri Mantra. > Moon - Devi Pooja or Kuldevi Pooja. > Mars - Ganesh or Kartikeya Pooja > Mercury - Vishnu Pooja > Jupiter - Brahma or Dattatreya > Venus - Devi Pooja or Lakshmi Pooja > Saturn - Hanuman Pooja. > Rahu - Naag Pooja or Shankar Pooja. > Ketu - Shankar Pooja. > > The above is not exhaustive, but hope > would help some of the readers. Now Moon > if 12th Lord and sitting in 4th would naturally create > detachment while Saturn also in 4th or influencing > it would create detachment. The 12th lord connected > to any House, would play the role of denial in ost > of the cases if not all, in producing > the desired results of that house. In most > of the Vairaagis or Sanyaasis, the 4th house of > domestic Bliss, has to give away, or pave way for the native > to look at other places for comfort zones , as the Home > does not provide so, because it is but > natural, that if the Home had provided > all the pleasures, then why would > he have left his House. But of course not in all > cases. Like Lord Buddha had all the pleasures of the > palace as pronce Yashodhana ( I hope I remember the > name right ), and same with King Yayati, or > Janakji. Here barring Lord buddha the other two > were of this world and yet detached after a > certain point of time. Again Raja yayati realised > late the futility of pleasures, > while King janak was a true case of Grishasta > Sanyaasi or if you do not like that word for him, then > you may call him Grihasta bairaagi. > > We can go on and on with this discussion...... > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > jyotish-vidya , " poojasharma9 " > <poojasharma9 wrote: >> >> how to judge a person's spiritual quotient frm his horoscope?how to >> analyse spiritual growth prospects in a chart? >> > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Dear Bhaskar and Monica, I disagree. " Kaamat sanjayate krodhah " ... the root of anger is lust. Thus anger is not REALLY the root of evil, lust is. And in fact, neither is lust, for list is built on Beejam (desires), built on the Kutam from Avidya or ignorance. Thus really it is ignorance which is the root of our problems. Also, I think you were a little harsh on Bhaskar, Monica! =) Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicastrologer.net On Jul 5, 2008, at 10:33 AM, monica Astro wrote: > Dear Bhaskar > Its is said that where there is anger, " absolutely " nothing else > remains. > Progress of a man/woman is directly related to his control on sense > gratification, > and anger is the worst sense gratification possible, so says the > scriptures. > Regards > -m- > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > jyotish-vidya > Saturday, 5 July, 2008 10:36:55 PM > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > Thanks for the appreciation. All due to > the Gurus I have the good opportunity to > mingle with . > > My scales of being a normal astrologer > too are very high, and I recah nowhere near > them. I have some bad habits like > impulsiveness anger and abusive > language when provoked,and so many > other matters where I need change. God > knows, but I know this much that i do not > touch even from distance , to the > tenets mentioned in the classics, for what > a astrologer must be. > > yes but God is with me, in astrology. > > I get scared nowadays when posting mails, > because i know i write long. But dont > know how to mention all what i want to, > in short. > > thanks again. > Bhaskar. > > jyotish-vidya, " m2sangeeth " <m2sangeeth@ ...> > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskarji, >> >> Thank you so much for the post. You are the best :-). I adore reading >> your long mails; please do keep up the good work. >> >> Regards, >> Manasa. >> > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Dear Sanjay and Balwant, I thought Balwantji's answers were excellent. There is no need to list every signle possible exception and permutation when stating a principle. He gave good principles, I'll paraphrase and ad my own imput: Saturn, Jupiter and Ketu... get them working together on significant players, like the ascendant or the moon = good spiritual potential. Note that there are two kinds of " spirituality " one is the religiosity of Jupiter which is not really spiritual but " poonya karma " - the other is the moksha of Saturn and Ketu which is obtained only through material hardship and suffering, " tapasya " - when you get both forces co-operating, it is very beneficial to spiritual advancement. Also note that Fire = Dharma and Water = Moksha. Wherever you find there, and wherever these combine is a significant spiritual place. the 4th 8th and 12th signs and house are moksha places, and the 1st 5th and 9th signs and houses are dharma places. Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicastrologer.net On Jul 5, 2008, at 5:42 AM, balwantsingh64 wrote: > > Hello. I am a new member here, and an > ardent follower of Vedic Astrology and numerology > since few years. > > I understood thru reading the Home Page of this > List, that we are only into Parashar and not > Jamini, which point is well taken as there is > trouble, when a mix is sought. > > Influence of Saturn on Moon can also > make a person morose, psychic or a medium > and not necessarily produce spiritualism. > > Mr Mishra you have replied influence of Jupiter > and Saturn on Karakamsa Lagna. > Now the above combination can be had > thru at least a million ways. so how > do we re-consider the spirituality content ? > Why is influence of Jupiter and Saturn > benefic, while that of Sun and Ketu not ? > > The 3rd point you mention, here too more > than a million ways can the influence you > say, can manifest. > > 4th Point you say is noted, but Ketu > also causes boils , rashes, sores, abortions, > while Jupiter is a imp.ingredient for Cancer causing. > How do you reconcile now ? > > Lastly you said, > Lagna and Lagnes should have smiliar influence. > > Sir due respects, but as per what you say,then > every Birth chart in the world is a fit candidate for > spiritualism. > > Balwant. > > jyotish-vidya , SANJAY MISRA <vastuwonders > wrote: >> >> Dear Pooja, >> >> [1] The influence of Saturn on moon is the first > step for spiritual endeavour. >> >> [2] Influence of Jupiter & saturn on Karkamsa lagna or Atmakaraka > planet is another. >> [3] Jupiter strongly present in the chart in Kendra, Kona or > influencing the 10th house is another. >> >> [4] Often planets like Ketu & Jupiter are also responsible for > the same. >> >> [5] Last but not the least Lagna & lagnesh should also have > similiar influence. >> >> > Regards >> >> > Sanjay Misra >> >> poojasharma9 <poojasharma9 wrote: >> how to judge a person's spiritual quotient frm his > horoscope?how to >> analyse spiritual growth prospects in a chart? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Dear Mr.Balwant, I have given just a general reply to a general question carefully avoiding the intricacies & resultantly a very long piece of mail.I believe & presume that the querent Pooja appears to be recent starter in the subject so have thefear that a very long piece of mail may confuse & deter her to take further studies in the subject.The words Karkamsa & allied combinations are used in Brihat Parashar Hora also so it cannot be termed completely within the scope & purview of Jaimini Astrology. Well you reject & criticize my opinion in such strong words it means you definitely have a better replacement answer to this question so I invite you to answer the same yourself and take care I will also postmortem & criticize the same with vehement intensity as you have done without going to the actual sense of the page.There are myriad ways in which planets manifest their results at times they are dual , like Venus when strong & under positive influence produces & promotes finer instincts like arts, music, dance,poetry, architects etcetra but the same when afflicted by planets like Mars & saturn gives excessive & uncontrolled sexual urges to produce nymphomaniacs, meglomaniacs & sexual criminals.Here everything is about the balance & equilibrium in life & everywhere the moment the same gets disturbed there are problems.So we have to see very carefully that Saturn-moon influence is making a morose or spiritual querent.Saturn & Ketu are primary ingredients for withdrawal from materialism & mundane things but when the same get afflicted they produce morose and othe ornate words you use.This every astrologer knows & he has to eliminate these possibilities while jumping to a conclusion.I have seen many siddha people and those craving for spiritual illumination waiting for Sade Shati of Shani because Saturn in its good forms gives detachmnet from mundane world & that is the first step to spiritual illumination. Well you say that Ketu gives boils & injuries so if a person has spiritual inclinations should he not have boils & injuries or he gets special protection from the almighty if on spiitual path from the same .Did Swami Vivekananda not have vigorous boils on his body or because of that he was expunged from spiritual path. Well enough of this, now I am waiting for ur reply on spiritual combinations & after that I will give this time a detailed answer on spiritual combinations which I had with held on the first occasion for reasons already mentioned. Regards Sanjay Misra balwantsingh64 <balwantsingh64 wrote: Hello. I am a new member here, and an ardent follower of Vedic Astrology and numerology since few years. I understood thru reading the Home Page of this List, that we are only into Parashar and not Jamini, which point is well taken as there is trouble, when a mix is sought. Influence of Saturn on Moon can also make a person morose, psychic or a medium and not necessarily produce spiritualism. Mr Mishra you have replied influence of Jupiter and Saturn on Karakamsa Lagna. Now the above combination can be had thru at least a million ways. so how do we re-consider the spirituality content ? Why is influence of Jupiter and Saturn benefic, while that of Sun and Ketu not ? The 3rd point you mention, here too more than a million ways can the influence you say, can manifest. 4th Point you say is noted, but Ketu also causes boils , rashes, sores, abortions, while Jupiter is a imp.ingredient for Cancer causing. How do you reconcile now ? Lastly you said, Lagna and Lagnes should have smiliar influence. Sir due respects, but as per what you say,then every Birth chart in the world is a fit candidate for spiritualism. Balwant. jyotish-vidya , SANJAY MISRA <vastuwonders wrote: > > Dear Pooja, > > [1] The influence of Saturn on moon is the first step for spiritual endeavour. > > [2] Influence of Jupiter & saturn on Karkamsa lagna or Atmakaraka planet is another. > [3] Jupiter strongly present in the chart in Kendra, Kona or influencing the 10th house is another. > > [4] Often planets like Ketu & Jupiter are also responsible for the same. > > [5] Last but not the least Lagna & lagnesh should also have similiar influence. > > Regards > > Sanjay Misra > > poojasharma9 <poojasharma9 wrote: > how to judge a person's spiritual quotient frm his horoscope?how to > analyse spiritual growth prospects in a chart? > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Dear Vic D, I thought Sanjay had written the mail & Balwant had criticised the same , the concise combinations were written by Sanjay.Thanks. Regards Sanjay Misra Vic D <vicdicara wrote: Dear Sanjay and Balwant, I thought Balwantji's answers were excellent. There is no need to list every signle possible exception and permutation when stating a principle. He gave good principles, I'll paraphrase and ad my own imput: Saturn, Jupiter and Ketu... get them working together on significant players, like the ascendant or the moon = good spiritual potential. Note that there are two kinds of " spirituality " one is the religiosity of Jupiter which is not really spiritual but " poonya karma " - the other is the moksha of Saturn and Ketu which is obtained only through material hardship and suffering, " tapasya " - when you get both forces co-operating, it is very beneficial to spiritual advancement. Also note that Fire = Dharma and Water = Moksha. Wherever you find there, and wherever these combine is a significant spiritual place. the 4th 8th and 12th signs and house are moksha places, and the 1st 5th and 9th signs and houses are dharma places. Yours, Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor http://www.vedicastrologer.net On Jul 5, 2008, at 5:42 AM, balwantsingh64 wrote: > > Hello. I am a new member here, and an > ardent follower of Vedic Astrology and numerology > since few years. > > I understood thru reading the Home Page of this > List, that we are only into Parashar and not > Jamini, which point is well taken as there is > trouble, when a mix is sought. > > Influence of Saturn on Moon can also > make a person morose, psychic or a medium > and not necessarily produce spiritualism. > > Mr Mishra you have replied influence of Jupiter > and Saturn on Karakamsa Lagna. > Now the above combination can be had > thru at least a million ways. so how > do we re-consider the spirituality content ? > Why is influence of Jupiter and Saturn > benefic, while that of Sun and Ketu not ? > > The 3rd point you mention, here too more > than a million ways can the influence you > say, can manifest. > > 4th Point you say is noted, but Ketu > also causes boils , rashes, sores, abortions, > while Jupiter is a imp.ingredient for Cancer causing. > How do you reconcile now ? > > Lastly you said, > Lagna and Lagnes should have smiliar influence. > > Sir due respects, but as per what you say,then > every Birth chart in the world is a fit candidate for > spiritualism. > > Balwant. > > jyotish-vidya , SANJAY MISRA <vastuwonders > wrote: >> >> Dear Pooja, >> >> [1] The influence of Saturn on moon is the first > step for spiritual endeavour. >> >> [2] Influence of Jupiter & saturn on Karkamsa lagna or Atmakaraka > planet is another. >> [3] Jupiter strongly present in the chart in Kendra, Kona or > influencing the 10th house is another. >> >> [4] Often planets like Ketu & Jupiter are also responsible for > the same. >> >> [5] Last but not the least Lagna & lagnesh should also have > similiar influence. >> >> > Regards >> >> > Sanjay Misra >> >> poojasharma9 <poojasharma9 wrote: >> how to judge a person's spiritual quotient frm his > horoscope?how to >> analyse spiritual growth prospects in a chart? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 dear bhasker ji, thnx for providing such elaborate detail on the topic. pooja --- On Sat, 7/5/08, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: spiritual inclination jyotish-vidya Saturday, July 5, 2008, 3:23 PM Spirituality ( As taught by one of My Gurus ) The Planet connected to Lagna ( Either the Lagna Lord or the planet sitting in it ) if- 1) connected with 9th house, and if 9th jouse connected with 1st House, and also connected with Jupiter ( Connection means influence of Jupiter through any ways, aspect, Lordship or whatever ), indicates that native has faith in religion. 2) If Planet connected to 9th ( Either 9th lord or planet in it ) , if connected to 4th,8th and 12th, then one can go for Bhakti Marg. 3) 9th connected with 2,6 or 10th houses then, Karma marg. 4) 9th connected with 3,7, or 11th House, then Gyan Marg. 5) 9th connected with 1,5 or 9th , then Meditation & Mantras. 6) 9th connected with Jupiter, or Mercury, then native will join any religious institute as preacher,teacher, or Lecturere. 7) 9th connected with venus, then native may play music for religious charity purpose etc. 8) 9th connected with Venus and saturn, then native will go for constructions of temple, church or ashrams etc. 9) If 1st or 9th afflicted with Rahu and Jupiter, then native may either go for change of religion, or also follow dictums of another religion. 10) If 9th connected with 5,9,10 and 11 and also connected with Ketu and Jupiter,, then Native will become spiritual preacher. 11) If 1st connected with ketu and Saturn, with 9th , indicate spiritual progress,, if it is also connected with 3,9 and 12, then native will become Sanyasi. 12) If 1st connected with ketu and 9th, and also having good combination of Mars and venus, then native, would behave like a Sanyaasi at Home. 13) 9th conected with 2,6,10 or 3,7,11 and also connected with Mars, mercury and Uranus ( Sorry for bringing this in Vedic Group , please excuse ), then native will criticise religion. 14) If 5th or 11th connected with 5,10 and 11th, and also connected with Saturn,Jupiter and ketu, then native will get some Siddhi. 15) 5th connected with 5,10 and 11, with Saturn, then Mantra siddhi. 16) If 5th connected with Rahu, then native would be interested in Tantra Pooja. 17) If 5th is afflicted or connected with barren sign, then native will not get positive results. 18) Moon and saturn combination give faith in religion. 19) If Jupiter and Moon both are afflicted, then native must not take to Tantra. 20) Worship- If 5th connected to - Sun - Surya Pooja or Gayatri Mantra. Moon - Devi Pooja or Kuldevi Pooja. Mars - Ganesh or Kartikeya Pooja Mercury - Vishnu Pooja Jupiter - Brahma or Dattatreya Venus - Devi Pooja or Lakshmi Pooja Saturn - Hanuman Pooja. Rahu - Naag Pooja or Shankar Pooja. Ketu - Shankar Pooja. The above is not exhaustive, but hope would help some of the readers. Now Moon if 12th Lord and sitting in 4th would naturally create detachment while Saturn also in 4th or influencing it would create detachment. The 12th lord connected to any House, would play the role of denial in ost of the cases if not all, in producing the desired results of that house. In most of the Vairaagis or Sanyaasis, the 4th house of domestic Bliss, has to give away, or pave way for the native to look at other places for comfort zones , as the Home does not provide so, because it is but natural, that if the Home had provided all the pleasures, then why would he have left his House. But of course not in all cases. Like Lord Buddha had all the pleasures of the palace as pronce Yashodhana ( I hope I remember the name right ), and same with King Yayati, or Janakji. Here barring Lord buddha the other two were of this world and yet detached after a certain point of time. Again Raja yayati realised late the futility of pleasures, while King janak was a true case of Grishasta Sanyaasi or if you do not like that word for him, then you may call him Grihasta bairaagi. We can go on and on with this discussion.. .... best wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, " poojasharma9 " <poojasharma9@ ...> wrote: > > how to judge a person's spiritual quotient frm his horoscope?how to > analyse spiritual growth prospects in a chart? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 dear monica, i really feel sad that the wonderful topic that i started off for discussion and knowledge ,ended up with a total misunderstanding between the two of our gp members.kindly,lets get back to the topic and move forward. thnx n rgrds pooja --- On Sun, 7/6/08, monica Astro <monicaastro80 wrote: monica Astro <monicaastro80 Re: Re: spiritual inclination jyotish-vidya Sunday, July 6, 2008, 6:13 AM Bhaskar Ji Ii is surprising that you are so interested after a new lady who has joined this group. I have friends interested in astrology in this group who suggested me to join this group and 4-5 others groups. I hope you donot have any issues with how I manage my email from different places. You wrote " " You also seem to be from calcutta. If I can have your contact address and full name " Is there any good reason for my sharing personal details with you or online or with strangers? If its a pre-requisite to share personal details before talking in this group, I shall wait for owners comments in this regard. Kindly ask what is proper and remain within the confines of a gentleman's conduct. Kindly drop the " Dear " you put before my name. -m- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> jyotish-vidya Sunday, 6 July, 2008 1:46:08 AM Re: spiritual inclination Dear Monica, I am also surprised by Your intelligence and confidence in astrology and about me, that afflicted Mars could be influencing My Chart to cause this, though your id " Monica astro80 " was created just yesterday. You also seem to be from calcutta. If I can have your contact address and full name, I can guide you to a Gold medallist there from West bengal, who is my friend and a well known astrologer in Calcutta.I also know a young lad , Mr. Gaurav who within his first year of astrology studies write great articles on Divisional Charts. Do let me know. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Monica, > > I am beginning to understand why you are here. > I am not asking YOU to show techniques , > but its better than talking negatives is > what I meant, if at all my initial > mail was to be replied by You. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > jyotish-vidya, monica Astro > <monicaastro80@ > wrote: > > > > Bhaskar ji > > > > Seems you forget rather quickly, what you write. > > > > > So Monica I know anger, is bad, all of us here > > > know how bad anger is, so we better not talk about > > > its disadvantages , but show techniques how to > > > curb it. > > > > Your ideas ideas regarding keeping ego low is well appreciated. > > > > -m- > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, 6 July, 2008 12:50:07 AM > > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > Dear Monica, > > > > I am not looking for any solutions from > > anybody, > > and I dont even know you. > > But I am not even looking for solutions > > from anybody who has not > > realised ( Not that I know of ). > > but all the same thank You. > > > > Anger is one of the most ordinary bad > > traits among people, and does not need > > any discussion or any lecture > > about the dos and donts.It is also one > > of the hardest to control, > > after Lust. So who are we to advice anybody ? > > Unless we are known as REALISED. > > > > Now what I did in my mail, was just > > noting down my bad habits, because the > > writer had called me the best. To break'the > > EGO, before it comes in, I wrote what I did. > > We need to do it once in a while as > > astrologers, if our feet has to be firmly > > planted on the ground. If the person who > > has praised me, does not know about my > > deficiencies, it is my duty to > > point it out to him/her, before his/her > > praise gets on my head, and I go > > into a false self exhilirating utopian > > fantasy world and sit atop on a self > > made seat of a Guru. > > > > The Realised would realise it, what I > > realised and wrote. > > > > Period. > > > > Thanks. > > Hope this concludes the thread. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > jyotish-vidya, monica Astro > > <monicaastro80@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar ji > > > > > > You wrote " I have some bad habits like impulsiveness anger and > > abusive language when provoked " . > > > > > > In general life teaches everyone how to do manage things, sooner > or > > later, as per fate. > > > But since you are explicitly asking for solution, let me put in a > > few cents, if it helps. > > > > > > Anger is best controlled by leading a good overall balanced life. > > > For abusive language, probably more repetition of gods name or > > keeping guru gracious image in mind should help. > > > > > > Most people who have anger related issues have affliction to mars > > or mars energy is not properly channeled. > > > Anger may also arise due to health related imbalances or various > > frustrations. > > > > > > Since you are an astrologer and advice others also, I hope you > can > > check the same for yourself and take remedial steps. > > > > > > Regards > > > -m- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > jyotish-vidya > > > Saturday, 5 July, 2008 11:21:49 PM > > > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > > > > Dear Monica, > > > > > > Yes I agree. > > > > > > There are 3 offshoots of the bark. > > > 1) Knowledge of something as good or bad. > > > 2) Acceptance of this knowledge as the truth. > > > 3) Acting in accordance with the required > > > line of action, after this knowledge derived > > > > > > For instance, > > > We all know that meditation is good. > > > I personally accept it as good. > > > But do I do it in my regular Life ? > > > > > > Thus, knowing, accepting and acting, > > > are 3 seperate matters. > > > > > > Another example. > > > All cigarette smokers know that Smoking > > > causes Cancer. > > > They accept it. > > > But do all leave it ? > > > > > > So Monica I know anger, is bad, all of us here > > > know how bad anger is, so we better not talk about > > > its disadvantages , but show techniques how to > > > curb it. That also, only if you are practising > > > the same. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, monica Astro > > > <monicaastro80@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar > > > > Its is said that where there is anger, " absolutely " nothing > else > > > remains. > > > > Progress of a man/woman is directly related to his control on > > sense > > > gratification, > > > > and anger is the worst sense gratification possible, so says > the > > > scriptures. > > > > Regards > > > > -m- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > Saturday, 5 July, 2008 10:36:55 PM > > > > Re: spiritual inclination > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the appreciation. All due to > > > > the Gurus I have the good opportunity to > > > > mingle with . > > > > > > > > My scales of being a normal astrologer > > > > too are very high, and I recah nowhere near > > > > them. I have some bad habits like > > > > impulsiveness anger and abusive > > > > language when provoked,and so many > > > > other matters where I need change. God > > > > knows, but I know this much that i do not > > > > touch even from distance , to the > > > > tenets mentioned in the classics, for what > > > > a astrologer must be. > > > > > > > > yes but God is with me, in astrology. > > > > > > > > I get scared nowadays when posting mails, > > > > because i know i write long. But dont > > > > know how to mention all what i want to, > > > > in short. > > > > > > > > thanks again. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, " m2sangeeth " > > > <m2sangeeth@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for the post. You are the best :-). I adore > > > reading > > > > > your long mails; please do keep up the good work. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Manasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. > > Go > > > to http://in.promos. / groups/citygroup s/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Dear sanjay No need to dissect this further. I deeply appreciate both of your contributions. - Vic On Jul 6, 2008, at 11:28 PM, SANJAY MISRA <vastuwonders wrote: > Dear Vic D, > > I thought Sanjay had written the mail & > Balwant had criticised the same , the concise combinations were > written by Sanjay.Thanks. > > Regards > > > Sanjay Misra > > Vic D <vicdicara wrote: > Dear Sanjay and Balwant, > > I thought Balwantji's answers were excellent. There is no need to list > every signle possible exception and permutation when stating a > principle. He gave good principles, I'll paraphrase and ad my own > imput: > > Saturn, Jupiter and Ketu... get them working together on significant > players, like the ascendant or the moon = good spiritual potential. > > Note that there are two kinds of " spirituality " one is the religiosity > of Jupiter which is not really spiritual but " poonya karma " - the > other is the moksha of Saturn and Ketu which is obtained only through > material hardship and suffering, " tapasya " - when you get both forces > co-operating, it is very beneficial to spiritual advancement. > > Also note that Fire = Dharma and Water = Moksha. Wherever you find > there, and wherever these combine is a significant spiritual place. > the 4th 8th and 12th signs and house are moksha places, and the 1st > 5th and 9th signs and houses are dharma places. > > Yours, > Vic DiCara / Vraja Kishor > http://www.vedicastrologer.net > > On Jul 5, 2008, at 5:42 AM, balwantsingh64 wrote: > >> >> Hello. I am a new member here, and an >> ardent follower of Vedic Astrology and numerology >> since few years. >> >> I understood thru reading the Home Page of this >> List, that we are only into Parashar and not >> Jamini, which point is well taken as there is >> trouble, when a mix is sought. >> >> Influence of Saturn on Moon can also >> make a person morose, psychic or a medium >> and not necessarily produce spiritualism. >> >> Mr Mishra you have replied influence of Jupiter >> and Saturn on Karakamsa Lagna. >> Now the above combination can be had >> thru at least a million ways. so how >> do we re-consider the spirituality content ? >> Why is influence of Jupiter and Saturn >> benefic, while that of Sun and Ketu not ? >> >> The 3rd point you mention, here too more >> than a million ways can the influence you >> say, can manifest. >> >> 4th Point you say is noted, but Ketu >> also causes boils , rashes, sores, abortions, >> while Jupiter is a imp.ingredient for Cancer causing. >> How do you reconcile now ? >> >> Lastly you said, >> Lagna and Lagnes should have smiliar influence. >> >> Sir due respects, but as per what you say,then >> every Birth chart in the world is a fit candidate for >> spiritualism. >> >> Balwant. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> jyotish-vidya , SANJAY MISRA <vastuwonders >> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Pooja, >>> >>> [1] The influence of Saturn on moon is the first >> step for spiritual endeavour. >>> >>> [2] Influence of Jupiter & saturn on Karkamsa lagna or Atmakaraka >> planet is another. >>> [3] Jupiter strongly present in the chart in Kendra, Kona or >> influencing the 10th house is another. >>> >>> [4] Often planets like Ketu & Jupiter are also responsible for >> the same. >>> >>> [5] Last but not the least Lagna & lagnesh should also have >> similiar influence. >>> >>> >> Regards >>> >>> >> Sanjay Misra >>> >>> poojasharma9 <poojasharma9 wrote: >>> how to judge a person's spiritual quotient frm his >> horoscope?how to >>> analyse spiritual growth prospects in a chart? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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