To Rafal ji and all Astrologers in vedic astrology pls read Very Imp

March 13, 2007

II hraum namah adityaya II

Dear Pratosh , Namaskar

------

I understand Your point and I fully agree. From my side I was taught to

to deal with clients potential danger with help of REMEDIES AND GOOD

ADVISE in every time I do the reading. In this way I reject all fatalism

and making the client sad and depressed. In every situation of bad

future there is always beads waiting in Your hands, in every sad moment

there is always Krsna (moon) waiting for You. I cant maintain false

optimism but I try to guide the person on the way to ultimate happiness

signified by Jupiter.

------

Regards,

*Rafal Gendarz,*

www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com>

prathoshg napisa?(a):

>

> Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya Namaha

>

> dear Rafal ji

>

> One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer in This

> or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an astrologer shd

> beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and shd

> Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The Natives...

>

> bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in

> Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka and ketu

> u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i dono...But

> Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very Terribly

> and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried so so so

> hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and my atma

> has broked totally..........Even Now itself...

>

> SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH HUMANS

> EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE MINDA

> ATTITUDE...

> I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT

> LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE PANDIT DAKSHINAMURTHY JI PRASHANT JI MAY GIVE

> THEIR OPINION IF I AM WRONG

> THANKING U

> PRATHOSH

> SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU

>

March 13, 2007

om krishna guru,

dear prathosh ,

u asked deal with human being in mild way or carefully,something

like that ,do u remember me,as i dont know u ppl will forget the plight

of astrologers who may be extinguishing there karma by free astrology

,(thats wat i feel u ppl think,otherwise were in world u get free

service)

U remember that i spent for a day from 4 PM to 10 Pm on

chat and i even cut short one paid customer on chat for u from overses

(u know that),then same nite u hate mailed me and messged me .

no body unless u urself has to correct your destiny ,we cannot change ur

fate with magic wand and now u r now accussing a good soul who invest

his time and energy for u ,may be we all r wrong and u will be saved by

god ,let it be .

But this is not the way to treat an astrologer (daivagna) as they show

lite in your path and help u to avoid desasters in life .

If u hav courtesy and gratitude ,i suggest u start doing good karma to

day onwards by saying sorry to rafalji ,u dont know his calibre.

Otherwise wat u think a doctor should do to a rogi (potential one )

that u r 100% ok ,nothing to worry and die happily or u hav this problem

so reduce this or that and take this medicine.

Again upto u .

regrds sunil nair .

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

vedic astrology , " prathoshg " <prathoshg

wrote:

>

> Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya Namaha

>

> dear Rafal ji

>

> One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer in This

> or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an astrologer shd

> beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and shd

> Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The Natives...

>

> bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in

> Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka and ketu

> u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i dono...But

> Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very Terribly

> and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried so so so

> hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and my atma

> has broked totally..........Even Now itself...

>

> SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH HUMANS

> EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE MINDA

> ATTITUDE...

> I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT

> LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE PANDIT DAKSHINAMURTHY JI PRASHANT JI MAY GIVE

> THEIR OPINION IF I AM WRONG

> THANKING U

> PRATHOSH

> SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU

>

March 13, 2007

om krishna guru,

dear prathosh ,

u asked deal with human being in mild way or carefully,something

like that ,do u remember me,as i dont know u ppl will forget the plight

of astrologers who may be extinguishing there karma by free astrology

,(thats wat i feel u ppl think,otherwise were in world u get free

service)

U remember that i spent for a day from 4 PM to 10 Pm on

chat and i even cut short one paid customer on chat for u from overses

(u know that),then same nite u hate mailed me and messged me .

no body unless u urself has to correct your destiny ,we cannot change ur

fate with magic wand and now u r now accussing a good soul who invest

his time and energy for u ,may be we all r wrong and u will be saved by

god ,let it be .

But this is not the way to treat an astrologer (daivagna) as they show

lite in your path and help u to avoid desasters in life .

If u hav courtesy and gratitude ,i suggest u start doing good karma to

day onwards by saying sorry to rafalji ,u dont know his calibre.

Otherwise wat u think a doctor should do to a rogi (potential one )

that u r 100% ok ,nothing to worry and die happily or u hav this problem

so reduce this or that and take this medicine.

Again upto u .

regrds sunil nair .

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

vedic astrology , " prathoshg " <prathoshg

wrote:

>

> Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya Namaha

>

> dear Rafal ji

>

> One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer in This

> or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an astrologer shd

> beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and shd

> Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The Natives...

>

> bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in

> Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka and ketu

> u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i dono...But

> Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very Terribly

> and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried so so so

> hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and my atma

> has broked totally..........Even Now itself...

>

> SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH HUMANS

> EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE MINDA

> ATTITUDE...

> I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT

> LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE PANDIT DAKSHINAMURTHY JI PRASHANT JI MAY GIVE

> THEIR OPINION IF I AM WRONG

> THANKING U

> PRATHOSH

> SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU

>

March 13, 2007

Dear Sir,

Indeed astrological messages can be very powerful; however, each

astrologer will have to choose his or her style over time.

Unfortunately, very few astrologers are well- or at all versed in

counselling which is an essential part of practical astrology. In

standard settings when astrology is practiced face to face, one can

soften the message based on the direct feedback (verbal, non-verbal

and para-verbal) which are missing from the new medium of giving

readings (email, forum messages and chat areas). Given this reality,

consumers should take it upon themselves to avoid asking for readings

if they know that they are overly sensitive and likely to be affected

adversely by suggestions and language used by astrologers.

The tone of message can be of many varieties but in the absence of

the feedback, the same language can be interpreted and misinterpreted

at times by different people and astrologer really is at a loss to

tailor readings sufficiently. It is true that the chart can give

indications in cases which have mental or personality issues and

perhaps these individuals should not be read through internet. That

much astrologers can watch out for, I am sure.

RR

vedic astrology , " prathoshg " <prathoshg

wrote:

>

> Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya Namaha

>

> dear Rafal ji

>

> One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer in

This

> or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an astrologer shd

> beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and shd

> Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The Natives...

>

> bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in

> Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka and

ketu

> u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i dono...But

> Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very Terribly

> and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried so so so

> hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and my atma

> has broked totally..........Even Now itself...

>

> SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH HUMANS

> EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE MINDA

> ATTITUDE...

> I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT

> LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE PANDIT DAKSHINAMURTHY JI PRASHANT JI MAY GIVE

> THEIR OPINION IF I AM WRONG

> THANKING U

> PRATHOSH

> SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU

>

March 13, 2007

Dear Shri. Pratosh:

I can understand your sentiments. However, let me tell you that

your emotional turmoil and upset are actually " good " for you in a

sense. They have made you feel so much and now that you have

brought it out in a message, it will elicit astrological responses

touching on karmic aspect.

The topic of curses is a very sensitive one. If you have had a

personal consultation with an astrologer of good calibre, they would

have definitely put it across in a more palatable way for the

querent. The astrologer is correct in his interpretation....that is

one side of that. NOw coming to your side of the coin, when the

curse is there what shall we do? The diagnosis has been given; now

it is time for treatment. Probably that aspect of the issue was not

touched due to paucity of time or other reasons.

If curse of wife is there lurking from your previous lives, the

remedy is to think of your present spouse as " vehicle for burning

off evil karmas in this regard " . If you suffer in life and think

you are suffering undeservedly it is an intense pang of pain.

However, when you know that curse of spouse lurks from past life, it

gives some justification to your present suffering, and it also

SHOWS THE WAY OUT. Extinguish the karma. Even if your spouse

reacts angrily and stubbornly, you reciprocate it with kindness

thinking of the good it is going to do to your soul.

Your name itself is suggestive of the remedy that can help you out

from the current tough situation as you feel it.......Undertake

Pratosha fast in honour of Lord MahaDeva and Goddess Shakti and

worship the Divine Couple. How many trials and tribulations they

underwent as a couple though they were loving of each other?

Worshipping Absolute Divine in the form of Divine Couple will surely

give respite from curse of wife and help you lead a reasonably

peaceful life.

There are other remedies also. Do not worry. WHEREVER THERE IS A

PROBLEM, THERE IS A SOLUTION; WHEREVER THERE IS A CURSE THERE IS A

SAPA VIMOCHANA (RELEASE FROM CURSE); WHEREEVER THERE IS A DOSHA

THERE IS A PARIHAARAM.

Do not worry.

May God give you peace of mind and help you out.

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

vedic astrology , " prathoshg " <prathoshg

wrote:

>

> Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya Namaha

>

> dear Rafal ji

>

> One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer in

This

> or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an astrologer shd

> beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and shd

> Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The Natives...

>

> bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in

> Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka and

ketu

> u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i dono...But

> Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very

Terribly

> and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried so so so

> hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and my

atma

> has broked totally..........Even Now itself...

>

> SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH HUMANS

> EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE MINDA

> ATTITUDE...

> I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT

> LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE PANDIT DAKSHINAMURTHY JI PRASHANT JI MAY GIVE

> THEIR OPINION IF I AM WRONG

> THANKING U

> PRATHOSH

> SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU

>

March 14, 2007

Dear Guruji and List,

Namaskar,

I agree with Guru ji , see when its going to happen may be bad or some

thing related to that , Guruji made you aware of fact , isn't that

wonderful!!

If at all you felt bad you shouldn't have asked the question.

Everybody goes through dark period or problematic or period with

obstacles , but solution is not to cry but to face them like a brave

warrior and thats is what is karma , face it and love it! , let that

be bad or good.When intensity increases ask Guru or astrologer for

solution and get mantra and chant it.

Don't fear but face like good simple normal human being don't cry.

Even I had went through most wonderful period of strong hardships but

then we should burn bad karma so my brother don't blame on any other

Guru or astrologer , mind you Jyotisha is like Guru Bramha they can

only read your future they have that power.

I hope you would have taken my email in good spirit.

Best Wishes,

Jim.

vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> II hraum namah adityaya II

> Dear Pratosh , Namaskar

> ------

> I understand Your point and I fully agree. From my side I was taught to

> to deal with clients potential danger with help of REMEDIES AND GOOD

> ADVISE in every time I do the reading. In this way I reject all

fatalism

> and making the client sad and depressed. In every situation of bad

> future there is always beads waiting in Your hands, in every sad moment

> there is always Krsna (moon) waiting for You. I cant maintain false

> optimism but I try to guide the person on the way to ultimate happiness

> signified by Jupiter.

> ------

> Regards,

> *Rafal Gendarz,*

> www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com>

>

> prathoshg napisa?(a):

> >

> > Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya Namaha

> >

> > dear Rafal ji

> >

> > One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer in This

> > or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an astrologer shd

> > beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and shd

> > Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The Natives...

> >

> > bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in

> > Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka and ketu

> > u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i dono...But

> > Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very Terribly

> > and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried so so so

> > hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and my atma

> > has broked totally..........Even Now itself...

> >

> > SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH HUMANS

> > EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE MINDA

> > ATTITUDE...

> > I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT

> > LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE PANDIT DAKSHINAMURTHY JI PRASHANT JI MAY GIVE

> > THEIR OPINION IF I AM WRONG

> > THANKING U

> > PRATHOSH

> > SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU

> >

>

March 14, 2007

Dear list,

While the argument may be from both the sides, I have a feeling that the

technical words should not be diluted for the sake of humbleness. For example,

MKS has a word " Maran " meaning death, can MKS be diluted to some other humble

word ?

We require the contribution of Shri Rafel on the list in any case. As said,

people should improve their will power to take things easy while understanding

the implications as well.

Thanks,

Vijay Kumar

-

vedicastro_mind

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:12 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: To Rafal ji and all Astrologers in vedic

astrology pls read Very Imp

Dear Guruji and List,

Namaskar,

I agree with Guru ji , see when its going to happen may be bad or some

thing related to that , Guruji made you aware of fact , isn't that

wonderful!!

If at all you felt bad you shouldn't have asked the question.

Everybody goes through dark period or problematic or period with

obstacles , but solution is not to cry but to face them like a brave

warrior and thats is what is karma , face it and love it! , let that

be bad or good.When intensity increases ask Guru or astrologer for

solution and get mantra and chant it.

Don't fear but face like good simple normal human being don't cry.

Even I had went through most wonderful period of strong hardships but

then we should burn bad karma so my brother don't blame on any other

Guru or astrologer , mind you Jyotisha is like Guru Bramha they can

only read your future they have that power.

I hope you would have taken my email in good spirit.

Best Wishes,

Jim.

vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> II hraum namah adityaya II

> Dear Pratosh , Namaskar

> -------------------------

> I understand Your point and I fully agree. From my side I was taught to

> to deal with clients potential danger with help of REMEDIES AND GOOD

> ADVISE in every time I do the reading. In this way I reject all

fatalism

> and making the client sad and depressed. In every situation of bad

> future there is always beads waiting in Your hands, in every sad moment

> there is always Krsna (moon) waiting for You. I cant maintain false

> optimism but I try to guide the person on the way to ultimate happiness

> signified by Jupiter.

> -------------------------

> Regards,

> *Rafal Gendarz,*

> www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com>

>

> prathoshg napisa?(a):

> >

> > Om Bhurv Bhuvah Svah SambaSadaShivaya Namaha

> >

> > dear Rafal ji

> >

> > One Kind Request pls Don Tell some words Like U Will Suffer in This

> > or That Very Frankly bec Though its Correct also an astrologer shd

> > beware That he is Dealing with Human Emotions and Mind and shd

> > Carefully Give Hope to Native and not Try to Scare The Natives...

> >

> > bec The Day u said Bec of Spouse Curse i will Suffer in

> > Relationship...and since Venus Connected with Sun atmakaraka and ketu

> > u said Strong curse Whether Curse fortified or not i dono...But

> > Thinking That Curse Mentally i have Suffered Very Very Very Terribly

> > and Have Triggered my Emotion Like anything and have cried so so so

> > hardly and soundly for many months the day as u said.....and my atma

> > has broked totally..........Even Now itself...

> >

> > SO PLS I KINDLY REQUEST ALL ASTROLOGERS TO KINDLY DEAL WITH HUMANS

> > EMOTIONS AND MIND VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT TO GIVE A NEGATIVE MINDA

> > ATTITUDE...

> > I DIDNT HURT ANYBODY I SAID WHAT I FEEL IS CORRECT

> > LEARNED MEMBERS LIKE PANDIT DAKSHINAMURTHY JI PRASHANT JI MAY GIVE

> > THEIR OPINION IF I AM WRONG

> > THANKING U

> > PRATHOSH

> > SARVAM KRISHNAARPANA MASTU

> >

>

March 15, 2007

|JAI SRIRAM|

Dear Sir,

Is there any books available in TAMIL for the followings

WHEREVER THERE IS A CURSE THERE IS A

SAPA VIMOCHANA (RELEASE FROM CURSE); WHEREEVER THERE IS A DOSHA

THERE IS A PARIHAARAM.

Please inform us.

Thanks in advance

Regards,

S.Venkatesh

dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote: