VENUS SATURN -VERY BAD PERIODi, Gaurav and others

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

vedic astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2009

wrote:

>

> HELLO LEARNED GURUS

>

> I woud like to draw your attention to Venus SATURN DASA and antara

dasa

>

> Since the start of my Venus MAHADASA Saturn Anratadasa from OCT162006

I am suffering business losses ,even my friends have become enemies

> SATURN and Venus both are in kendras

>

> Lagna Libra , SATURN,JUPITER- Capricorn, Mercury,Ketu- Aquarius, Sun

-Pisces

>

> Moon-CANCER Mars-Gemini, Rahu-Leo

>

> Venus MAHADASA Saturn Subperiod from 16Oct2006

>

> Kindly advise why I am getting bad effects inspite of SATURN being

yogakaraka for Libra Lagna.

>

> Regards

>

> Puneet

>

> gaurav.ghosh wrote:

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Saumyaji,

> I am sorry i couldnot followup the message on time as I was with my

> work.

> Anyways, coming to the point in your message, many classics speak

> that the Dasanath should not be in 6/8th position from Antardasa

> lord in chart.Even many erudite astrologers like KNR & BVR spoke abt

> this rule in their books.BUT NEVER THIS RULE VERBATIM!!Dont apply

> this rule outright, but keep in mind while giving predictions.

> Consider a chart with Cancer lagna, with Sun 2nd & Mars in 7th. What

> will happen in Mars-Sun dasa or Sun-Mars dasa???

> Also consider their strength in rasi & Navamsha...those position can

> give rise to sudden opening after obstacles if they are in exalted

> positions.

> Regarding Saturn-Venus, I haven't read anything ...neither I am a

> hardcore follower of this rule, so cant guide you anymore.

> Thanq,

>

> vedic astrology , saumya ray chaudhuri

> saumya@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rafal Ji, Gaurav and other members,

> > Does the distance between dasa and antardasa lord matter? How?

> The reason I read long back in a Bengali astrological book that Sat

> and Venus if they are in 6/8 relation it is good. I failed to

> understand this. My understanding was if dasa and antardasa lord are

> in kendra/kona relation they might give good result. But I did n't

> understand Sat/Venus 6/8 or 8/6 relation.

> > I appreciate if you may shed some light on this.

> > Thank you

> > Pranam

> > Saumya

> >

> > Saumya Ray Chaudhuri

> > IMTECH,Sector 39A, Chandigarh-160036

> > ph 0172 690751(lab)

> >

> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> >

April 16, 2007

om krishna guru,

dear punit ji,

generaly these periods are not comfortable .Many graet

personalities suffered in these sat-venus or venus sat periods,Indira

gandhi and Nizam of hydrabad who lost his kingdom or position r during

these periods.May be the reason is opposite traits of these planets or

like rafalji mentioned badhaka for each other.Also for Libra lagna venus

is also 8th lord .

In this case first of all exchange of nakshsatra between sun and sat

,who r enemies to each other ,your badhak lord is sun also 5th lord from

janma tara pushyami is sun ruled utram ,known as prathyari thara.

Also saturn is dispositor of mandi (actualy gulika according to kerala

traditions-as they take 2nd part ) so it will feel like gulika dasa.

And sani transmiting over your moon -giving effect of sade sathi also

your arudha lagna is there and its in 10th from lagna giving an effect

of daiyya.so realy a testing period mentaly ,physicaly and image wise

I am waiting gurujan and elders to comment and correct me.

also they will recommend remedies for u .

regds sunil nair.

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

vedic astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2009

wrote:

>

> DEAR NAIRJI

>

> DATE OF BIRTH 26.3.1961 PLACE MUMBAI TIME 10.10PM

>

> Regards

>

> Puneet Ahuja

>

> astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> Om krishna guru,

>

> dear puneet ahujaji,

>

> please be kind enough to post your birth

> details offcourse with place and time and if possible co ordinates of

> the place of birth.

>

> regds sunil nair.

>

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

>

> vedic astrology , puneet ahuja punsoft2009@

> wrote:

> >

> > HELLO LEARNED GURUS

> >

> > I woud like to draw your attention to Venus SATURN DASA and antara

> dasa

> >

> > Since the start of my Venus MAHADASA Saturn Anratadasa from

OCT162006

> I am suffering business losses ,even my friends have become enemies

> > SATURN and Venus both are in kendras

> >

> > Lagna Libra , SATURN,JUPITER- Capricorn, Mercury,Ketu- Aquarius, Sun

> -Pisces

> >

> > Moon-CANCER Mars-Gemini, Rahu-Leo

> >

> > Venus MAHADASA Saturn Subperiod from 16Oct2006

> >

> > Kindly advise why I am getting bad effects inspite of SATURN being

> yogakaraka for Libra Lagna.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Puneet

> >

> > gaurav.ghosh@ wrote:

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > Dear Saumyaji,

> > I am sorry i couldnot followup the message on time as I was with my

> > work.

> > Anyways, coming to the point in your message, many classics speak

> > that the Dasanath should not be in 6/8th position from Antardasa

> > lord in chart.Even many erudite astrologers like KNR & BVR spoke abt

> > this rule in their books.BUT NEVER THIS RULE VERBATIM!!Dont apply

> > this rule outright, but keep in mind while giving predictions.

> > Consider a chart with Cancer lagna, with Sun 2nd & Mars in 7th. What

> > will happen in Mars-Sun dasa or Sun-Mars dasa???

> > Also consider their strength in rasi & Navamsha...those position can

> > give rise to sudden opening after obstacles if they are in exalted

> > positions.

> > Regarding Saturn-Venus, I haven't read anything ...neither I am a

> > hardcore follower of this rule, so cant guide you anymore.

> > Thanq,

> >

> > vedic astrology , saumya ray chaudhuri

> > saumya@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal Ji, Gaurav and other members,

> > > Does the distance between dasa and antardasa lord matter? How?

> > The reason I read long back in a Bengali astrological book that Sat

> > and Venus if they are in 6/8 relation it is good. I failed to

> > understand this. My understanding was if dasa and antardasa lord are

> > in kendra/kona relation they might give good result. But I did n't

> > understand Sat/Venus 6/8 or 8/6 relation.

> > > I appreciate if you may shed some light on this.

> > > Thank you

> > > Pranam

> > > Saumya

> > >

> > > Saumya Ray Chaudhuri

> > > IMTECH,Sector 39A, Chandigarh-160036

> > > ph 0172 690751(lab)

> > >

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > >

April 16, 2007

<psst... while gurujans ponder and procrastinate and formulate a

response -- I may sneak in a bit of information! Uttarakalamrita and

I am not sure if KN Rao referenced that or not, but in his writings

(engimas book perhaps) mentioned about this venus saturn period.

Uttarkalamrita gives some pointers about when VE-sa and vice versa

create challenges and what some describe as " anything may happen "

kind of period!

Those who have experienced these periods, VE-sa and SA-ve know that

collectively it is not a sensational open and shut case as sometimes

these are made out to be ...!

<rr>

vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> om krishna guru,

>

> dear punit ji,

>

> generaly these periods are not comfortable .Many

graet

> personalities suffered in these sat-venus or venus sat

periods,Indira

> gandhi and Nizam of hydrabad who lost his kingdom or position r

during

> these periods.May be the reason is opposite traits of these planets

or

> like rafalji mentioned badhaka for each other.Also for Libra lagna

venus

> is also 8th lord .

>

> In this case first of all exchange of nakshsatra between sun

and sat

> ,who r enemies to each other ,your badhak lord is sun also 5th lord

from

> janma tara pushyami is sun ruled utram ,known as prathyari thara.

>

> Also saturn is dispositor of mandi (actualy gulika according to

kerala

> traditions-as they take 2nd part ) so it will feel like gulika

dasa.

>

> And sani transmiting over your moon -giving effect of sade sathi

also

> your arudha lagna is there and its in 10th from lagna giving an

effect

> of daiyya.so realy a testing period mentaly ,physicaly and image

wise

>

> I am waiting gurujan and elders to comment and correct me.

>

> also they will recommend remedies for u .

>

> regds sunil nair.

>

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

>

> vedic astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2009@>

> wrote:

> >

> > DEAR NAIRJI

> >

> > DATE OF BIRTH 26.3.1961 PLACE MUMBAI TIME 10.10PM

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Puneet Ahuja

> >

> > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> > Om krishna guru,

> >

> > dear puneet ahujaji,

> >

> > please be kind enough to post your birth

> > details offcourse with place and time and if possible co

ordinates of

> > the place of birth.

> >

> > regds sunil nair.

> >

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> >

> > vedic astrology , puneet ahuja punsoft2009@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > HELLO LEARNED GURUS

> > >

> > > I woud like to draw your attention to Venus SATURN DASA and

antara

> > dasa

> > >

> > > Since the start of my Venus MAHADASA Saturn Anratadasa from

> OCT162006

> > I am suffering business losses ,even my friends have become

enemies

> > > SATURN and Venus both are in kendras

> > >

> > > Lagna Libra , SATURN,JUPITER- Capricorn, Mercury,Ketu-

Aquarius, Sun

> > -Pisces

> > >

> > > Moon-CANCER Mars-Gemini, Rahu-Leo

> > >

> > > Venus MAHADASA Saturn Subperiod from 16Oct2006

> > >

> > > Kindly advise why I am getting bad effects inspite of SATURN

being

> > yogakaraka for Libra Lagna.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Puneet

> > >

> > > gaurav.ghosh@ wrote:

> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > Dear Saumyaji,

> > > I am sorry i couldnot followup the message on time as I was

with my

> > > work.

> > > Anyways, coming to the point in your message, many classics

speak

> > > that the Dasanath should not be in 6/8th position from Antardasa

> > > lord in chart.Even many erudite astrologers like KNR & BVR

spoke abt

> > > this rule in their books.BUT NEVER THIS RULE VERBATIM!!Dont

apply

> > > this rule outright, but keep in mind while giving predictions.

> > > Consider a chart with Cancer lagna, with Sun 2nd & Mars in 7th.

What

> > > will happen in Mars-Sun dasa or Sun-Mars dasa???

> > > Also consider their strength in rasi & Navamsha...those

position can

> > > give rise to sudden opening after obstacles if they are in

exalted

> > > positions.

> > > Regarding Saturn-Venus, I haven't read anything ...neither I am

a

> > > hardcore follower of this rule, so cant guide you anymore.

> > > Thanq,

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , saumya ray chaudhuri

> > > saumya@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal Ji, Gaurav and other members,

> > > > Does the distance between dasa and antardasa lord matter? How?

> > > The reason I read long back in a Bengali astrological book that

Sat

> > > and Venus if they are in 6/8 relation it is good. I failed to

> > > understand this. My understanding was if dasa and antardasa

lord are

> > > in kendra/kona relation they might give good result. But I did

n't

> > > understand Sat/Venus 6/8 or 8/6 relation.

> > > > I appreciate if you may shed some light on this.

> > > > Thank you

> > > > Pranam

> > > > Saumya

> > > >

> > > > Saumya Ray Chaudhuri

> > > > IMTECH,Sector 39A, Chandigarh-160036

> > > > ph 0172 690751(lab)

> > > >

> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > > >

April 17, 2007

om krishna guru,

dear krishna,

Can u share your birth data with group .

thanks

sunil nair.

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

vedic astrology , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> I am currently going through Sat-Ven period, almost at the fag

> end of it. I wouldn't say it is BAD. However, I have noticed

> that I had to put much more effort to accomplish something as

> compared to my Jup-Venus period or even other Sat-xxx periods so

> far. Things get delayed, things don't happen easily as before

> etc. Eventually results do come, but after a bit of struggle.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- Rohiniranjan rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> > <psst... while gurujans ponder and procrastinate and formulate

> > a

> > response -- I may sneak in a bit of information!

> > Uttarakalamrita and

> > I am not sure if KN Rao referenced that or not, but in his

> > writings

> > (engimas book perhaps) mentioned about this venus saturn

> > period.

> >

> > Uttarkalamrita gives some pointers about when VE-sa and vice

> > versa

> > create challenges and what some describe as " anything may

> > happen "

> > kind of period!

> >

> > Those who have experienced these periods, VE-sa and SA-ve know

> > that

> > collectively it is not a sensational open and shut case as

> > sometimes

> > these are made out to be ...!

> >

> > <rr>

> >

> > vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > > om krishna guru,

> > >

> > > dear punit ji,

> > >

> > > generaly these periods are not comfortable

> > .Many

> > graet

> > > personalities suffered in these sat-venus or venus sat

> > periods,Indira

> > > gandhi and Nizam of hydrabad who lost his kingdom or

> > position r

> > during

> > > these periods.May be the reason is opposite traits of these

> > planets

> > or

> > > like rafalji mentioned badhaka for each other.Also for Libra

> > lagna

> > venus

> > > is also 8th lord .

> > >

> > > In this case first of all exchange of nakshsatra

> > between sun

> > and sat

> > > ,who r enemies to each other ,your badhak lord is sun also

> > 5th lord

> > from

> > > janma tara pushyami is sun ruled utram ,known as prathyari

> > thara.

> > >

> > > Also saturn is dispositor of mandi (actualy gulika

> > according to

> > kerala

> > > traditions-as they take 2nd part ) so it will feel like

> > gulika

> > dasa.

> > >

> > > And sani transmiting over your moon -giving effect of

> > sade sathi

> > also

> > > your arudha lagna is there and its in 10th from lagna giving

> > an

> > effect

> > > of daiyya.so realy a testing period mentaly ,physicaly and

> > image

> > wise

> > >

> > > I am waiting gurujan and elders to comment and correct

> > me.

> > >

> > > also they will recommend remedies for u .

> > >

> > > regds sunil nair.

> > >

> http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , puneet ahuja

> > <punsoft2009@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > DEAR NAIRJI

> > > >

> > > > DATE OF BIRTH 26.3.1961 PLACE MUMBAI TIME 10.10PM

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Puneet Ahuja

> > > >

> > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om krishna guru,

> > > >

> > > > dear puneet ahujaji,

> > > >

> > > > please be kind enough to post your birth

> > > > details offcourse with place and time and if possible co

> > ordinates of

> > > > the place of birth.

> > > >

> > > > regds sunil nair.

> > > >

> > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/

> > > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>

> > > >

> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , puneet ahuja

> > punsoft2009@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > HELLO LEARNED GURUS

> > > > >

> > > > > I woud like to draw your attention to Venus SATURN DASA

> > and

> > antara

> > > > dasa

> > > > >

> > > > > Since the start of my Venus MAHADASA Saturn Anratadasa

> > from

> > > OCT162006

> > > > I am suffering business losses ,even my friends have

> > become

> > enemies

> > > > > SATURN and Venus both are in kendras

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna Libra , SATURN,JUPITER- Capricorn, Mercury,Ketu-

> > Aquarius, Sun

> > > > -Pisces

> > > > >

> > > > > Moon-CANCER Mars-Gemini, Rahu-Leo

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus MAHADASA Saturn Subperiod from 16Oct2006

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly advise why I am getting bad effects inspite of

> > SATURN

> > being

> > > > yogakaraka for Libra Lagna.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Puneet

> > > > >

> > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ wrote:

> > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > > > Dear Saumyaji,

> > > > > I am sorry i couldnot followup the message on time as I

> > was

> > with my

> > > > > work.

> > > > > Anyways, coming to the point in your message, many

> > classics

> > speak

> > > > > that the Dasanath should not be in 6/8th position from

> > Antardasa

> > > > > lord in chart.Even many erudite astrologers like KNR &

> > BVR

> > spoke abt

> > > > > this rule in their books.BUT NEVER THIS RULE

> > VERBATIM!!Dont

> > apply

> > > > > this rule outright, but keep in mind while giving

> > predictions.

> > > > > Consider a chart with Cancer lagna, with Sun 2nd & Mars

> > in 7th.

> > What

> > > > > will happen in Mars-Sun dasa or Sun-Mars dasa???

> > > > > Also consider their strength in rasi & Navamsha...those

> > position can

> > > > > give rise to sudden opening after obstacles if they are

> > in

> > exalted

> > > > > positions.

> > > > > Regarding Saturn-Venus, I haven't read anything

> > ...neither I am

> > a

> > > > > hardcore follower of this rule, so cant guide you

> > anymore.

> > > > > Thanq,

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , saumya ray

> > chaudhuri

> > > > > saumya@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rafal Ji, Gaurav and other members,

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

April 17, 2007

Om krishna guru,

dear puneet ji,

I think i answered from my perspectiv ,no

theorey is working in isolation,various factors influence it.Once i told

one boy ,rishab lagna nativ to not to wear stone of sani as its badhak

also ,till today i hav no good informations abt him,as he dont want to

remove it as he spend money on it.

In his case sat and rahu was together and sat was AK also in meena

rasi.He was without work and some body suggested Indra neelam for him .I

find a similar case later a boy in america wear neelam under similar

chart situations nd his interview on same day got busted after company

selected him and even all week ruined till he remove the stone.

These r my life experiences ,what to say i dont know ,i dont find any

rule working verbatim and in isolations.We hav to analyse whole charts

and influences.

hope its clear and may be gurjans and senior member may come out with

their analysis.I am also waiting for that.

regds sunil nair.

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

vedic astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2009

wrote:

>

> Thanks NAIRJI

>

> My basic question is Venus and Saturn are yogkarakas for Libra LAGNA

THEY CANNOT MISBEHAVE otherwise the theory of yogakarakas for lagnas

fall throughs

>

> Your comments

>

> Rohiniranjan rohini_ranjan wrote:

> <psst... while gurujans ponder and procrastinate and formulate a

> response -- I may sneak in a bit of information! Uttarakalamrita and

> I am not sure if KN Rao referenced that or not, but in his writings

> (engimas book perhaps) mentioned about this venus saturn period.

>

> Uttarkalamrita gives some pointers about when VE-sa and vice versa

> create challenges and what some describe as " anything may happen "

> kind of period!

>

> Those who have experienced these periods, VE-sa and SA-ve know that

> collectively it is not a sensational open and shut case as sometimes

> these are made out to be ...!

>

> <rr>

>

> vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala "

> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> > om krishna guru,

> >

> > dear punit ji,

> >

> > generaly these periods are not comfortable .Many

> graet

> > personalities suffered in these sat-venus or venus sat

> periods,Indira

> > gandhi and Nizam of hydrabad who lost his kingdom or position r

> during

> > these periods.May be the reason is opposite traits of these planets

> or

> > like rafalji mentioned badhaka for each other.Also for Libra lagna

> venus

> > is also 8th lord .

> >

> > In this case first of all exchange of nakshsatra between sun

> and sat

> > ,who r enemies to each other ,your badhak lord is sun also 5th lord

> from

> > janma tara pushyami is sun ruled utram ,known as prathyari thara.

> >

> > Also saturn is dispositor of mandi (actualy gulika according to

> kerala

> > traditions-as they take 2nd part ) so it will feel like gulika

> dasa.

> >

> > And sani transmiting over your moon -giving effect of sade sathi

> also

> > your arudha lagna is there and its in 10th from lagna giving an

> effect

> > of daiyya.so realy a testing period mentaly ,physicaly and image

> wise

> >

> > I am waiting gurujan and elders to comment and correct me.

> >

> > also they will recommend remedies for u .

> >

> > regds sunil nair.

> >

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> >

> > vedic astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2009@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > DEAR NAIRJI

> > >

> > > DATE OF BIRTH 26.3.1961 PLACE MUMBAI TIME 10.10PM

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Puneet Ahuja

> > >

> > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Om krishna guru,

> > >

> > > dear puneet ahujaji,

> > >

> > > please be kind enough to post your birth

> > > details offcourse with place and time and if possible co

> ordinates of

> > > the place of birth.

> > >

> > > regds sunil nair.

> > >

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , puneet ahuja punsoft2009@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > HELLO LEARNED GURUS

> > > >

> > > > I woud like to draw your attention to Venus SATURN DASA and

> antara

> > > dasa

> > > >

> > > > Since the start of my Venus MAHADASA Saturn Anratadasa from

> > OCT162006

> > > I am suffering business losses ,even my friends have become

> enemies

> > > > SATURN and Venus both are in kendras

> > > >

> > > > Lagna Libra , SATURN,JUPITER- Capricorn, Mercury,Ketu-

> Aquarius, Sun

> > > -Pisces

> > > >

> > > > Moon-CANCER Mars-Gemini, Rahu-Leo

> > > >

> > > > Venus MAHADASA Saturn Subperiod from 16Oct2006

> > > >

> > > > Kindly advise why I am getting bad effects inspite of SATURN

> being

> > > yogakaraka for Libra Lagna.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Puneet

> > > >

> > > > gaurav.ghosh@ wrote:

> > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > > Dear Saumyaji,

> > > > I am sorry i couldnot followup the message on time as I was

> with my

> > > > work.

> > > > Anyways, coming to the point in your message, many classics

> speak

> > > > that the Dasanath should not be in 6/8th position from Antardasa

> > > > lord in chart.Even many erudite astrologers like KNR & BVR

> spoke abt

> > > > this rule in their books.BUT NEVER THIS RULE VERBATIM!!Dont

> apply

> > > > this rule outright, but keep in mind while giving predictions.

> > > > Consider a chart with Cancer lagna, with Sun 2nd & Mars in 7th.

> What

> > > > will happen in Mars-Sun dasa or Sun-Mars dasa???

> > > > Also consider their strength in rasi & Navamsha...those

> position can

> > > > give rise to sudden opening after obstacles if they are in

> exalted

> > > > positions.

> > > > Regarding Saturn-Venus, I haven't read anything ...neither I am

> a

> > > > hardcore follower of this rule, so cant guide you anymore.

> > > > Thanq,

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , saumya ray chaudhuri

> > > > saumya@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rafal Ji, Gaurav and other members,

> > > > > Does the distance between dasa and antardasa lord matter? How?

> > > > The reason I read long back in a Bengali astrological book that

> Sat

> > > > and Venus if they are in 6/8 relation it is good. I failed to

> > > > understand this. My understanding was if dasa and antardasa

> lord are

> > > > in kendra/kona relation they might give good result. But I did

> n't

> > > > understand Sat/Venus 6/8 or 8/6 relation.

> > > > > I appreciate if you may shed some light on this.

> > > > > Thank you

> > > > > Pranam

> > > > > Saumya

> > > > >

> > > > > Saumya Ray Chaudhuri

> > > > > IMTECH,Sector 39A, Chandigarh-160036

> > > > > ph 0172 690751(lab)

> > > > >

> > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > > > >

April 18, 2007

om krishna guru,

dear puneet ji,

In your case saturn is not badak palanet ,but

he is with debilated jupiter ,in its own rasi and i heard once

sri.vishtiji discussing ,its like a millionaire and beggar and beggar

getting benefits and may be millainaire loosing his power.In your case

the sat is with 6th lord of tensions and hardwork and enmities and may

be giving more of the traits of jupiter esp with stones also.

So in wearing the stones when planets are yuti ,i heard oppossite

rules work like u wear the stone of jupiter and it will giv the effect

of saturn ,but i dont know how far u should wear ,means tru out or till

saturn sub dasa finish ,any way for u no harm in testing and wearing it

if possible(off course if economicaly viable for u)

and donate the other stone (u hav check it how was your experience after

wearing it ) to mandirs or snyasis or holi persons.

Also i invite gurujans opinion and comments and correct me and advise

this person.

with regds.

sunil nair.

om shreem mahalxmai namah.

vedic astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2009

wrote:

>

> HELLO NAIRJI

>

> I am also wearing Neelam stone you want me to remove it as I am having

dasa of Venus-Saturn

>

> Regards

>

> Puneet

> astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> Om krishna guru,

>

> dear puneet ji,

>

> I think i answered from my perspectiv ,no

> theorey is working in isolation,various factors influence it.Once i

told

> one boy ,rishab lagna nativ to not to wear stone of sani as its badhak

> also ,till today i hav no good informations abt him,as he dont want to

> remove it as he spend money on it.

>

> In his case sat and rahu was together and sat was AK also in meena

> rasi.He was without work and some body suggested Indra neelam for him

..I

> find a similar case later a boy in america wear neelam under similar

> chart situations nd his interview on same day got busted after company

> selected him and even all week ruined till he remove the stone.

>

> These r my life experiences ,what to say i dont know ,i dont find any

> rule working verbatim and in isolations.We hav to analyse whole charts

> and influences.

>

> hope its clear and may be gurjans and senior member may come out with

> their analysis.I am also waiting for that.

>

> regds sunil nair.

>

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

>

> vedic astrology , puneet ahuja punsoft2009@

> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks NAIRJI

> >

> > My basic question is Venus and Saturn are yogkarakas for Libra LAGNA

> THEY CANNOT MISBEHAVE otherwise the theory of yogakarakas for lagnas

> fall throughs

> >

> > Your comments

> >

> > Rohiniranjan rohini_ranjan@ wrote:

> > <psst... while gurujans ponder and procrastinate and formulate a

> > response -- I may sneak in a bit of information! Uttarakalamrita and

> > I am not sure if KN Rao referenced that or not, but in his writings

> > (engimas book perhaps) mentioned about this venus saturn period.

> >

> > Uttarkalamrita gives some pointers about when VE-sa and vice versa

> > create challenges and what some describe as " anything may happen "

> > kind of period!

> >

> > Those who have experienced these periods, VE-sa and SA-ve know that

> > collectively it is not a sensational open and shut case as sometimes

> > these are made out to be ...!

> >

> > <rr>

> >

> > vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > > om krishna guru,

> > >

> > > dear punit ji,

> > >

> > > generaly these periods are not comfortable .Many

> > graet

> > > personalities suffered in these sat-venus or venus sat

> > periods,Indira

> > > gandhi and Nizam of hydrabad who lost his kingdom or position r

> > during

> > > these periods.May be the reason is opposite traits of these

planets

> > or

> > > like rafalji mentioned badhaka for each other.Also for Libra lagna

> > venus

> > > is also 8th lord .

> > >

> > > In this case first of all exchange of nakshsatra between sun

> > and sat

> > > ,who r enemies to each other ,your badhak lord is sun also 5th

lord

> > from

> > > janma tara pushyami is sun ruled utram ,known as prathyari thara.

> > >

> > > Also saturn is dispositor of mandi (actualy gulika according to

> > kerala

> > > traditions-as they take 2nd part ) so it will feel like gulika

> > dasa.

> > >

> > > And sani transmiting over your moon -giving effect of sade sathi

> > also

> > > your arudha lagna is there and its in 10th from lagna giving an

> > effect

> > > of daiyya.so realy a testing period mentaly ,physicaly and image

> > wise

> > >

> > > I am waiting gurujan and elders to comment and correct me.

> > >

> > > also they will recommend remedies for u .

> > >

> > > regds sunil nair.

> > >

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , puneet ahuja

<punsoft2009@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > DEAR NAIRJI

> > > >

> > > > DATE OF BIRTH 26.3.1961 PLACE MUMBAI TIME 10.10PM

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Puneet Ahuja

> > > >

> > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om krishna guru,

> > > >

> > > > dear puneet ahujaji,

> > > >

> > > > please be kind enough to post your birth

> > > > details offcourse with place and time and if possible co

> > ordinates of

> > > > the place of birth.

> > > >

> > > > regds sunil nair.

> > > >

> > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/

> > > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>

> > > >

> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , puneet ahuja

punsoft2009@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > HELLO LEARNED GURUS

> > > > >

> > > > > I woud like to draw your attention to Venus SATURN DASA and

> > antara

> > > > dasa

> > > > >

> > > > > Since the start of my Venus MAHADASA Saturn Anratadasa from

> > > OCT162006

> > > > I am suffering business losses ,even my friends have become

> > enemies

> > > > > SATURN and Venus both are in kendras

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna Libra , SATURN,JUPITER- Capricorn, Mercury,Ketu-

> > Aquarius, Sun

> > > > -Pisces

> > > > >

> > > > > Moon-CANCER Mars-Gemini, Rahu-Leo

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus MAHADASA Saturn Subperiod from 16Oct2006

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly advise why I am getting bad effects inspite of SATURN

> > being

> > > > yogakaraka for Libra Lagna.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Puneet

> > > > >

> > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ wrote:

> > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > > > Dear Saumyaji,

> > > > > I am sorry i couldnot followup the message on time as I was

> > with my

> > > > > work.

> > > > > Anyways, coming to the point in your message, many classics

> > speak

> > > > > that the Dasanath should not be in 6/8th position from

Antardasa

> > > > > lord in chart.Even many erudite astrologers like KNR & BVR

> > spoke abt

> > > > > this rule in their books.BUT NEVER THIS RULE VERBATIM!!Dont

> > apply

> > > > > this rule outright, but keep in mind while giving predictions.

> > > > > Consider a chart with Cancer lagna, with Sun 2nd & Mars in

7th.

> > What

> > > > > will happen in Mars-Sun dasa or Sun-Mars dasa???

> > > > > Also consider their strength in rasi & Navamsha...those

> > position can

> > > > > give rise to sudden opening after obstacles if they are in

> > exalted

> > > > > positions.

> > > > > Regarding Saturn-Venus, I haven't read anything ...neither I

am

> > a

> > > > > hardcore follower of this rule, so cant guide you anymore.

> > > > > Thanq,

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , saumya ray chaudhuri

> > > > > saumya@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rafal Ji, Gaurav and other members,

> > > > > > Does the distance between dasa and antardasa lord matter?

How?

> > > > > The reason I read long back in a Bengali astrological book

that

> > Sat

> > > > > and Venus if they are in 6/8 relation it is good. I failed to

> > > > > understand this. My understanding was if dasa and antardasa

> > lord are

> > > > > in kendra/kona relation they might give good result. But I did

> > n't

> > > > > understand Sat/Venus 6/8 or 8/6 relation.

> > > > > > I appreciate if you may shed some light on this.

> > > > > > Thank you

> > > > > > Pranam

> > > > > > Saumya

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saumya Ray Chaudhuri

> > > > > > IMTECH,Sector 39A, Chandigarh-160036

> > > > > > ph 0172 690751(lab)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > > > > >

April 18, 2007

om krishna guru.

dear puneet ji,

This you can check yourself ,for fwe days remove

the stone and see the differrence .I cannot advise u ,as my knowledge is

not on the pracical grounds and i dont know the qualities of stone u r

wearing .So do a test and confirm yourself.

This also should repeat wen you wear the other stone also ,make

sure that u wear after testing on good muhurth and with prana prathishta

and mantras ,for that u hav to get a competent panditji s help.

I hope this may help u.

regrds sunil nair.

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

vedic astrology , puneet ahuja <punsoft2009

wrote:

>

> DEAR NAIRJI

>

> I am wearing Neelam for last four years ,if I take it out maybe

problems get reduced,would like to have your advise

>

> Regards

> Puneet

>

> astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> om krishna guru,

>

> dear puneet ji,

>

> In your case saturn is not badak palanet ,but

> he is with debilated jupiter ,in its own rasi and i heard once

> sri.vishtiji discussing ,its like a millionaire and beggar and beggar

> getting benefits and may be millainaire loosing his power.In your case

> the sat is with 6th lord of tensions and hardwork and enmities and may

> be giving more of the traits of jupiter esp with stones also.

>

> So in wearing the stones when planets are yuti ,i heard oppossite

> rules work like u wear the stone of jupiter and it will giv the effect

> of saturn ,but i dont know how far u should wear ,means tru out or

till

> saturn sub dasa finish ,any way for u no harm in testing and wearing

it

> if possible(off course if economicaly viable for u)

>

> and donate the other stone (u hav check it how was your experience

after

> wearing it ) to mandirs or snyasis or holi persons.

>

> Also i invite gurujans opinion and comments and correct me and advise

> this person.

>

> with regds.

>

> sunil nair.

>

>

> om shreem mahalxmai namah.

>

> vedic astrology , puneet ahuja punsoft2009@

> wrote:

> >

> > HELLO NAIRJI

> >

> > I am also wearing Neelam stone you want me to remove it as I am

having

> dasa of Venus-Saturn

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Puneet

> > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> > Om krishna guru,

> >

> > dear puneet ji,

> >

> > I think i answered from my perspectiv ,no

> > theorey is working in isolation,various factors influence it.Once i

> told

> > one boy ,rishab lagna nativ to not to wear stone of sani as its

badhak

> > also ,till today i hav no good informations abt him,as he dont want

to

> > remove it as he spend money on it.

> >

> > In his case sat and rahu was together and sat was AK also in meena

> > rasi.He was without work and some body suggested Indra neelam for

him

> .I

> > find a similar case later a boy in america wear neelam under similar

> > chart situations nd his interview on same day got busted after

company

> > selected him and even all week ruined till he remove the stone.

> >

> > These r my life experiences ,what to say i dont know ,i dont find

any

> > rule working verbatim and in isolations.We hav to analyse whole

charts

> > and influences.

> >

> > hope its clear and may be gurjans and senior member may come out

with

> > their analysis.I am also waiting for that.

> >

> > regds sunil nair.

> >

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> >

> > vedic astrology , puneet ahuja punsoft2009@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks NAIRJI

> > >

> > > My basic question is Venus and Saturn are yogkarakas for Libra

LAGNA

> > THEY CANNOT MISBEHAVE otherwise the theory of yogakarakas for lagnas

> > fall throughs

> > >

> > > Your comments

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan rohini_ranjan@ wrote:

> > > <psst... while gurujans ponder and procrastinate and formulate a

> > > response -- I may sneak in a bit of information! Uttarakalamrita

and

> > > I am not sure if KN Rao referenced that or not, but in his

writings

> > > (engimas book perhaps) mentioned about this venus saturn period.

> > >

> > > Uttarkalamrita gives some pointers about when VE-sa and vice versa

> > > create challenges and what some describe as " anything may happen "

> > > kind of period!

> > >

> > > Those who have experienced these periods, VE-sa and SA-ve know

that

> > > collectively it is not a sensational open and shut case as

sometimes

> > > these are made out to be ...!

> > >

> > > <rr>

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala "

> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > om krishna guru,

> > > >

> > > > dear punit ji,

> > > >

> > > > generaly these periods are not comfortable .Many

> > > graet

> > > > personalities suffered in these sat-venus or venus sat

> > > periods,Indira

> > > > gandhi and Nizam of hydrabad who lost his kingdom or position r

> > > during

> > > > these periods.May be the reason is opposite traits of these

> planets

> > > or

> > > > like rafalji mentioned badhaka for each other.Also for Libra

lagna

> > > venus

> > > > is also 8th lord .

> > > >

> > > > In this case first of all exchange of nakshsatra between sun

> > > and sat

> > > > ,who r enemies to each other ,your badhak lord is sun also 5th

> lord

> > > from

> > > > janma tara pushyami is sun ruled utram ,known as prathyari

thara.

> > > >

> > > > Also saturn is dispositor of mandi (actualy gulika according to

> > > kerala

> > > > traditions-as they take 2nd part ) so it will feel like gulika

> > > dasa.

> > > >

> > > > And sani transmiting over your moon -giving effect of sade sathi

> > > also

> > > > your arudha lagna is there and its in 10th from lagna giving an

> > > effect

> > > > of daiyya.so realy a testing period mentaly ,physicaly and image

> > > wise

> > > >

> > > > I am waiting gurujan and elders to comment and correct me.

> > > >

> > > > also they will recommend remedies for u .

> > > >

> > > > regds sunil nair.

> > > >

> > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/

> > > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>

> > > >

> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , puneet ahuja

> <punsoft2009@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > DEAR NAIRJI

> > > > >

> > > > > DATE OF BIRTH 26.3.1961 PLACE MUMBAI TIME 10.10PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Puneet Ahuja

> > > > >

> > > > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Om krishna guru,

> > > > >

> > > > > dear puneet ahujaji,

> > > > >

> > > > > please be kind enough to post your birth

> > > > > details offcourse with place and time and if possible co

> > > ordinates of

> > > > > the place of birth.

> > > > >

> > > > > regds sunil nair.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/

> > > > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>

> > > > >

> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology , puneet ahuja

> punsoft2009@

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HELLO LEARNED GURUS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I woud like to draw your attention to Venus SATURN DASA and

> > > antara

> > > > > dasa

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since the start of my Venus MAHADASA Saturn Anratadasa from

> > > > OCT162006

> > > > > I am suffering business losses ,even my friends have become

> > > enemies

> > > > > > SATURN and Venus both are in kendras

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lagna Libra , SATURN,JUPITER- Capricorn, Mercury,Ketu-

> > > Aquarius, Sun

> > > > > -Pisces

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Moon-CANCER Mars-Gemini, Rahu-Leo

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Venus MAHADASA Saturn Subperiod from 16Oct2006

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kindly advise why I am getting bad effects inspite of SATURN

> > > being

> > > > > yogakaraka for Libra Lagna.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Puneet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > gaurav.ghosh@ wrote:

> > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > > > > > Dear Saumyaji,

> > > > > > I am sorry i couldnot followup the message on time as I was

> > > with my

> > > > > > work.

> > > > > > Anyways, coming to the point in your message, many classics

> > > speak

> > > > > > that the Dasanath should not be in 6/8th position from

> Antardasa

> > > > > > lord in chart.Even many erudite astrologers like KNR & BVR

> > > spoke abt

> > > > > > this rule in their books.BUT NEVER THIS RULE VERBATIM!!Dont

> > > apply

> > > > > > this rule outright, but keep in mind while giving

predictions.

> > > > > > Consider a chart with Cancer lagna, with Sun 2nd & Mars in

> 7th.

> > > What

> > > > > > will happen in Mars-Sun dasa or Sun-Mars dasa???

> > > > > > Also consider their strength in rasi & Navamsha...those

> > > position can

> > > > > > give rise to sudden opening after obstacles if they are in

> > > exalted

> > > > > > positions.

> > > > > > Regarding Saturn-Venus, I haven't read anything ...neither I

> am

> > > a

> > > > > > hardcore follower of this rule, so cant guide you anymore.

> > > > > > Thanq,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology , saumya ray chaudhuri

> > > > > > saumya@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rafal Ji, Gaurav and other members,

> > > > > > > Does the distance between dasa and antardasa lord matter?

> How?

> > > > > > The reason I read long back in a Bengali astrological book

> that

> > > Sat

> > > > > > and Venus if they are in 6/8 relation it is good. I failed

to

> > > > > > understand this. My understanding was if dasa and antardasa

> > > lord are

> > > > > > in kendra/kona relation they might give good result. But I

did

> > > n't

> > > > > > understand Sat/Venus 6/8 or 8/6 relation.

> > > > > > > I appreciate if you may shed some light on this.

> > > > > > > Thank you

> > > > > > > Pranam

> > > > > > > Saumya

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Saumya Ray Chaudhuri

> > > > > > > IMTECH,Sector 39A, Chandigarh-160036

> > > > > > > ph 0172 690751(lab)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > > > > > >

April 18, 2007

om krishna guru,

dear goel saab,

In that case how gochara of sani over nodes

gives good effects.Also y we afraid of transit of yoga kaarakas.,if in

chart .

Also r we not seeing ashtavarga points the rasis sani moving

..(binna).Also mercury is 64th navamsa and 22nd drekkana (jagannath

drekkana-lord ).,next sub-dasa lord and waht u left in dasa is ketu in

this main dasa

pls correct me.

regrds sunil nair.

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937

wrote:

>

> Dear Puneet ji,

> YOUR Venus/ Saturn period is giving you trouble on accountof Saturn's

transit

> in Cancer sign

> 1 From this position it is aspecting both natal Sat. and Ven. and

blocking

> ther good results. Saturn may become direct on april 19, when some

relief will

> come to you.

> 2. PLEASE remember you are also passing the last leg of 2nd phase of

saturn's 7.5 yrs. period. After saturn becomes direct and reaches /

crosses

> 4 deg. of Sign Leo , this transit will show bad results.

> 3. Transit Jupiter was controlling YOR TRANSIT SATURN ,but its help is

not

> effective w.e.f. April 6, on its becoming Retrograde.

> 4. Parasara says that transits of Jupiter ans Saturn are especially

very

> vital and important while asseccing the dasa results of Ven/Sat and

vica-versa.

> 5. Neelam in fact protecting you.

> 6. Later part of this dasa will give you better results.

> 7.YOU are getting the results as per prescrition of sages

> Be remorsefull for your past deeds and pray GOD,his blessings will

come to

> you.More discussions on Net will not help. Pray and ready to endure.

> Never repeat never access dasa results without considerng transits.

> Regards,

> G.K.GOEL

> astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> om krishna guru.

>

> dear puneet ji,

>

> This you can check yourself ,for fwe days remove

> the stone and see the differrence .I cannot advise u ,as my knowledge

is

> not on the pracical grounds and i dont know the qualities of stone u r

> wearing .So do a test and confirm yourself.

>

> This also should repeat wen you wear the other stone also ,make

> sure that u wear after testing on good muhurth and with prana

prathishta

> and mantras ,for that u hav to get a competent panditji s help.

>

> I hope this may help u.

>

> regrds sunil nair.

>

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

>

> vedic astrology , puneet ahuja punsoft2009@

> wrote:

> >

> > DEAR NAIRJI

> >

> > I am wearing Neelam for last four years ,if I take it out maybe

> problems get reduced,would like to have your advise

> >

> > Regards

> > Puneet

> >

> > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> >

> > om krishna guru,

> >

> > dear puneet ji,

> >

> > In your case saturn is not badak palanet ,but

> > he is with debilated jupiter ,in its own rasi and i heard once

> > sri.vishtiji discussing ,its like a millionaire and beggar and

beggar

> > getting benefits and may be millainaire loosing his power.In your

case

> > the sat is with 6th lord of tensions and hardwork and enmities and

may

> > be giving more of the traits of jupiter esp with stones also.

> >

> > So in wearing the stones when planets are yuti ,i heard oppossite

> > rules work like u wear the stone of jupiter and it will giv the

effect

> > of saturn ,but i dont know how far u should wear ,means tru out or

> till

> > saturn sub dasa finish ,any way for u no harm in testing and wearing

> it

> > if possible(off course if economicaly viable for u)

> >

> > and donate the other stone (u hav check it how was your experience

> after

> > wearing it ) to mandirs or snyasis or holi persons.

> >

> > Also i invite gurujans opinion and comments and correct me and

advise

> > this person.

> >

> > with regds.

> >

> > sunil nair.

> >

> >

> > om shreem mahalxmai namah.

> >

> > vedic astrology , puneet ahuja punsoft2009@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > HELLO NAIRJI

> > >

> > > I am also wearing Neelam stone you want me to remove it as I am

> having

> > dasa of Venus-Saturn

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Puneet

> > > astro_tellerkerala astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Om krishna guru,

> > >

> > > dear puneet ji,

> > >

> > > I think i answered from my perspectiv ,no

> > > theorey is working in isolation,various factors influence it.Once

i

> > told

> > > one boy ,rishab lagna nativ to not to wear stone of sani as its

> badhak

> > > also ,till today i hav no good informations abt him,as he dont

want

> to

> > > remove it as he spend money on it.

> > >

> > > In his case sat and rahu was together and sat was AK also in meena

> > > rasi.He was without work and some body suggested Indra neelam for

> him

> > .I

> > > find a similar case later a boy in america wear neelam under

similar

> > > chart situations nd his interview on same day got busted after

> company

> > > selected him and even all week ruined till he remove the stone.

> > >

> > > These r my life experiences ,what to say i dont know ,i dont find

> any

> > > rule working verbatim and in isolations.We hav to analyse whole

> charts

> > > and influences.

> > >

> > > hope its clear and may be gurjans and senior member may come out

> with

> > > their analysis.I am also waiting for that.

> > >

> > > regds sunil nair.

> > >