Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Respected Rao sir, i have the book kundalini by pt. gopi krishan of jammu and also another one by by robert swabodha .indeed the book of pt. gopi krishan is a very wonderful and honest book on first hand experience of kundalini. your are exactly correct in what u have said. but there is some wrong information also. 1. it is not correct that books were published afdter his death. pt ji expired in 80's where as the books were printed published and distributed in 1939, 1940, 1941, 1942 and 1952. it is on record that pt. roop chand or roop lal joshi himself got the books printed and published and sold on no profit basis. he wanted to share his knowledge. confused over the fact that why people born at same time and place, also of same parents don't have identical destinies, how come that people with different horoscopes die in the same accident; how to interpret lines of palm when they keep on changing; why is the same house auspicious for one but not for other, he studied, did sadhna, was blessed and drew some conclusions which he himself got printed.pt atma ram sharma of kangra was the katib and books published in the name of shri girdhari lal, his relative and close friend. pt ji expired 30 years after the last edition was published. 2. u r true that some people collected and made a list of upayas which pt ji recommended to people who visited him. they simply noted the remedies and one of them published his own book on its basis. these remedies are not mentioned in any edition of lalkitab but there is evidence that pt ji prescribed them. 3.u r true that pt ji's divine intution was instrumental in crafting these remedies. this divine intution can be aroused only by kundalini sadhna. how to develop kundalini is a different subject having many aspects but that much is true that it is not a scientific or mathematical book of formulas. it is definitely true that pt ji had made a connection through kundalini and the book is mainly written on the basis of his visions. 4. another intersting thing that i have come across is that different persons prescribe same remedies for same planatary combinations but some persons success rate is very high and some fail miserably. sir i know u have read and researched a lot. u have a lot to give. please be generous and share. also admit where u r wrong like the history of lalkitab books u r totally wrong. there is documantary evidence to prove it so. waiting for ur reply kulbirbance lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. " <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear Kulbir, > I had written to Rajni Khan that my friends and I were > very much aware of The SEER,the late Roop Chand Joshi who was truly > a great SEER,who,after years of Sadhana with great devotion was > rewarded by the Almighty with the powers of prognostication,and Vaaka > Sidhdhi,etc.,and he became very famous...but some people have noted > down whatever he had said and sfter his death,simply used his name > and are trying to think that they can work miracles like him,simply > by virtue of being his followers...and repeating what he said...buty > all in vain... > This is so,simply because they have NOT been GRANTED > these powers,which they unfortunately think can be obtained simply by > copying him...They did no qualify to get these powers for the lack of > the requisite devotion/sacrifice/penance/Sadhana etc. ! > Simply by repeating his sayings like parrots,NONE of them > can hope to achieve even 1% of what the Great SEER did and could > do...THEY SHOULD DEVELOP INTUITION...PERFORM REGULAR SADHANA WITH > GREAT DEVOTION AND BECOME ONE WITH UNIVERSAL INTELLIGENCE/GOD/OR > WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL HIM...ONLY THEN CASN ONE AROUSE HIS > KUNDALINI TO PIERCE THE VARIOUS CHAKRAS AND THE PIERCING OF EACH > CHAKRA WILL BESTOW DIFFERENT SIDHDHIS UPON THE SADHAKA...AND FINALLY > WHEN IT PIERCES THE SAHSRARA CHAKRA AT THE CROWN OF THE HEAD,HE WILL > GAIN MOKSHA...OR FREEDOM FROM REBIRTH... > Thank you for admitting that you were prevented from > reading my similar letter,by Rajni Khan ...for reasons unknown to > me...but I guess,due to ignorance...and not publishing my letter... > If desired I can mail you more details...or else it will > be better if you could read the excellent series on this subject by > the famous late Pt.Gopi Krishna of Srinagar,Kashmir(founder of the > Kundalini Foundation in Switzerland,the USA, etc.)...which has a > preface by the President of the world-famous Max Planck Institute, > Prof Wiseacker... > This phenomenon has been deeply studied at the Stanford > University too...since long years... > I hope this will quench not only your thirst,but your > entire Lal Kitab Group for deeper knowledge,or perhaps kindle it even > more...! > I shall appreciate some sensible reaction/response to the > above from you or any one from your Group...so far I have waited in > vain...geting stupid mails only... > Kindly discuss this among your group members too...If > need be I shall help as much as I can...I have taken an oath on the > request of my Guru to SPREAD THIS KNOWLEDGE...AS MUCH AS I CAN... > Now,Kulbir you will appreciate how biased and badly > behaved your members were,in their replies... > Do not forget to send me your reaction... > Yours sincerely, > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > rajni ji; rao sir is claiming that he forwarded a letter about > > history of lalkitab which u didn't approve of. kindly approve that > > letter. lets see what is trenched in his mind. as for his > intentions > > i requested him to read farmaan no.4 of 1952 edition for rationale > > of this book. he calls me stupid and closes up. members can read > the > > said farmaan for themselves, the rationale of this system of book > > has been discussed in detail there. > > i want to read his version about history of lalkitab, may be > > commenting upon it will help many to straighten there approach > > towards this book. > > please release his message, the message of a disillusioned person > > cannot harm this book in any manner > > regards > > kulbirbance > > > > lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. " <lyrastro1@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dharminder, > > > If you and your friends are NOT STUPID,why didn't they > > come > > > out in the OPEN and tell all,the very first time, that Lalkitab > is > > a > > > collection of the sayings of a great SEER...THEY FIRST MADE WIERD > > > CLAIMS ,WHEN CHALLENGED THEY JUST RAN AWAY...AND ARE STILL > > > HIBERNATING...unfortunately the TRUTH IS THAT,the SEER had been > > > gifted by GOD,the faculty of intuition and precognisance etc., > > only > > > after LONG YEARS OF PAINSTAKING SADHANA...but you and your > friends > > > want to become like him without or little Sadhana,and simply by > > > quoting what he is " reported " to have said... > > > Now Dharminder...WHO IS MORE QUALIFIED TO BE STUPID ? > > > I have already written at length about this,but it > seems > > > that in his/her profound wisdom, your editor has NOT published my > > > letter,quite deliberately ? > > > The Editor,Rajni Khan, has not had the courage to > > publish > > > my detailed explanation of the history of Lal Kitab...and how > > people > > > who blindly follow the sayings without cultivating intuition > > etc.,are > > > totally wrong and can never come close to the Great SEER of the > > past. > > > That half-baked Lalkitab " experts " parade themselves > > > as " Experts " must be condemned by you,IF you are FAIR and > > SENSIBLE... > > > Making money in the name of the GREAT SEER SHOULD BE ROUNDLY > > CONDEMNED > > > BY ALL SENSIBLE PEOPLE...instead Dharminder you seem to be " one > of > > > them " ...no different in thinking.... > > > It appears that neither are you rational in your > > thinking > > > nor fair nor even " learned " in Lalkitab literature...nor in any > > > branch of astrology,I seriously suspect...you are just trying to > > > defend your friends out of misplaced loyalty...! > > > WHO IS BULL-SHITTING WHOM DHARMINDER ? ? > > > Lal Kitab HAS NO RATIONALE...IT IS ONLY A COLLECTION OF > > THE > > > SAYINGS OF A TRULY EVOLVED SEER OF OLD...I KNOW THIS FOR A > > FACT...CAN > > > ANY ONE CHALLENGE THIS STATEMENT ? > > > IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS...TRULY, YOU ARE WORSE THAN > > BEING > > > STUPID...THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE WILL HAVE TO INVENT A NEW ADJECTIVE > > FOR > > > YOU...! ! > > > After reading this leter I hope you do not start to > shit > > > like a bull... > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > Dear Rao, > > > > I am following the conversation for many weeks now and I found > > you > > > are absolute STUPID person in this entire conversation, that > > proves > > > my hypothesis that age doesn't have any connection with wisdom. > > > Please stop your all bullsh'it. > > > > God bless you. > > > > Dharmender > > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > Sunday, April 06, 2008 2:13 PM > > > > lalkitab > > > > [lalkitab] Re: lalkitab rationale - .lk.rao > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir, > > > > That is the most STUPID reply I've ever come across... > > > > Is this Lal Kitab site made up by people specialising in > > > > giving STUPID REPLIES...? ! > > > > Somebody needs to stop this kind of rubbish from members of > > > > this site...it reflects directly upon the calibre of ALL > members > > of > > > > this group...already so many have simply either RUN AWAY OR, > > GONE > > > INTO > > > > HIBERNATION...! ! ! > > > > I CAN ONLY PITY YOU ALL... > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rao sir, please read farmaan no.4 of lalkitab in 1952 edition > > the > > > > > rationale is explained here. > > > > > kulbirbance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Dear Kulbir, Thank you for your constructive reaction...I must thank you for the info about the history of Lal Kitab,I could be wrong,as a matter of fact, a lot of the history is nebulous,to say the least... I wish there were people like you in your group... I was actually refering to the books published by a noted publisher of Delhi...also pl. read " Serpent Power " by Ohilip Rawson... Any way,I shall post you an interesting article written my me on the subject...pl. semd me your e-mail ID... Here, I must add,that one will be favoured with Moksha,Freedom from Rebirth,in this Birth only based upon his total Kaarmic Score (SANCHITA + PRARABDHA + AGAMI or VARTAMANA or KRIYAMANA) ACHARYA RAJNISH,Pt.GOPI KRISHNA,SWAMI PARIGNYANASHRAM and a TANTRIC,I met at the Kamaksha Temple in Guwahati,years ago,are the only 4 persons,in my life I have personally met with,and who had a Jagruth Kundalini...! Kindly send me your e-mail ID and we could converse withouit needless interjections... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. > > Respected Rao sir, i have the book kundalini by pt. gopi krishan of > jammu and also another one by by robert swabodha .indeed the book of > pt. gopi krishan is a very wonderful and honest book on first hand > experience of kundalini. your are exactly correct in what u have > said. but there is some wrong information also. > 1. it is not correct that books were published afdter his death. pt > ji expired in 80's where as the books were printed published and > distributed in 1939, 1940, 1941, 1942 and 1952. it is on record that > pt. roop chand or roop lal joshi himself got the books printed and > published and sold on no profit basis. he wanted to share his > knowledge. confused over the fact that why people born at same time > and place, also of same parents don't have identical destinies, how > come that people with different horoscopes die in the same accident; > how to interpret lines of palm when they keep on changing; why is > the same house auspicious for one but not for other, he studied, did > sadhna, was blessed and drew some conclusions which he himself got > printed.pt atma ram sharma of kangra was the katib and books > published in the name of shri girdhari lal, his relative and close > friend. pt ji expired 30 years after the last edition was published. > 2. u r true that some people collected and made a list of upayas > which pt ji recommended to people who visited him. they simply noted > the remedies and one of them published his own book on its basis. > these remedies are not mentioned in any edition of lalkitab but > there is evidence that pt ji prescribed them. > 3.u r true that pt ji's divine intution was instrumental in crafting > these remedies. this divine intution can be aroused only by > kundalini sadhna. how to develop kundalini is a different subject > having many aspects but that much is true that it is not a > scientific or mathematical book of formulas. it is definitely true > that pt ji had made a connection through kundalini and the book is > mainly written on the basis of his visions. > 4. another intersting thing that i have come across is that > different persons prescribe same remedies for same planatary > combinations but some persons success rate is very high and some > fail miserably. > sir i know u have read and researched a lot. u have a lot to give. > please be generous and share. also admit where u r wrong like the > history of lalkitab books u r totally wrong. there is documantary > evidence to prove it so. > waiting for ur reply > kulbirbance > > > lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. " <lyrastro1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbir, > > I had written to Rajni Khan that my friends and I were > > very much aware of The SEER,the late Roop Chand Joshi who was > truly > > a great SEER,who,after years of Sadhana with great devotion was > > rewarded by the Almighty with the powers of prognostication,and > Vaaka > > Sidhdhi,etc.,and he became very famous...but some people have > noted > > down whatever he had said and sfter his death,simply used his name > > and are trying to think that they can work miracles like > him,simply > > by virtue of being his followers...and repeating what he > said...buty > > all in vain... > > This is so,simply because they have NOT been GRANTED > > these powers,which they unfortunately think can be obtained simply > by > > copying him...They did no qualify to get these powers for the lack > of > > the requisite devotion/sacrifice/penance/Sadhana etc. ! > > Simply by repeating his sayings like parrots,NONE of > them > > can hope to achieve even 1% of what the Great SEER did and could > > do...THEY SHOULD DEVELOP INTUITION...PERFORM REGULAR SADHANA WITH > > GREAT DEVOTION AND BECOME ONE WITH UNIVERSAL INTELLIGENCE/GOD/OR > > WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL HIM...ONLY THEN CASN ONE AROUSE HIS > > KUNDALINI TO PIERCE THE VARIOUS CHAKRAS AND THE PIERCING OF EACH > > CHAKRA WILL BESTOW DIFFERENT SIDHDHIS UPON THE SADHAKA...AND > FINALLY > > WHEN IT PIERCES THE SAHSRARA CHAKRA AT THE CROWN OF THE HEAD,HE > WILL > > GAIN MOKSHA...OR FREEDOM FROM REBIRTH... > > Thank you for admitting that you were prevented from > > reading my similar letter,by Rajni Khan ...for reasons unknown to > > me...but I guess,due to ignorance...and not publishing my letter... > > If desired I can mail you more details...or else it > will > > be better if you could read the excellent series on this subject > by > > the famous late Pt.Gopi Krishna of Srinagar,Kashmir(founder of the > > Kundalini Foundation in Switzerland,the USA, etc.)...which has a > > preface by the President of the world-famous Max Planck Institute, > > Prof Wiseacker... > > This phenomenon has been deeply studied at the > Stanford > > University too...since long years... > > I hope this will quench not only your thirst,but your > > entire Lal Kitab Group for deeper knowledge,or perhaps kindle it > even > > more...! > > I shall appreciate some sensible reaction/response to > the > > above from you or any one from your Group...so far I have waited > in > > vain...geting stupid mails only... > > Kindly discuss this among your group members too...If > > need be I shall help as much as I can...I have taken an oath on > the > > request of my Guru to SPREAD THIS KNOWLEDGE...AS MUCH AS I CAN... > > Now,Kulbir you will appreciate how biased and badly > > behaved your members were,in their replies... > > Do not forget to send me your reaction... > > Yours sincerely, > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > rajni ji; rao sir is claiming that he forwarded a letter about > > > history of lalkitab which u didn't approve of. kindly approve > that > > > letter. lets see what is trenched in his mind. as for his > > intentions > > > i requested him to read farmaan no.4 of 1952 edition for > rationale > > > of this book. he calls me stupid and closes up. members can read > > the > > > said farmaan for themselves, the rationale of this system of > book > > > has been discussed in detail there. > > > i want to read his version about history of lalkitab, may be > > > commenting upon it will help many to straighten there approach > > > towards this book. > > > please release his message, the message of a disillusioned > person > > > cannot harm this book in any manner > > > regards > > > kulbirbance > > > > > > lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. " > <lyrastro1@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dharminder, > > > > If you and your friends are NOT STUPID,why didn't > they > > > come > > > > out in the OPEN and tell all,the very first time, that > Lalkitab > > is > > > a > > > > collection of the sayings of a great SEER...THEY FIRST MADE > WIERD > > > > CLAIMS ,WHEN CHALLENGED THEY JUST RAN AWAY...AND ARE STILL > > > > HIBERNATING...unfortunately the TRUTH IS THAT,the SEER had > been > > > > gifted by GOD,the faculty of intuition and precognisance etc., > > > only > > > > after LONG YEARS OF PAINSTAKING SADHANA...but you and your > > friends > > > > want to become like him without or little Sadhana,and simply > by > > > > quoting what he is " reported " to have said... > > > > Now Dharminder...WHO IS MORE QUALIFIED TO BE STUPID ? > > > > I have already written at length about this,but it > > seems > > > > that in his/her profound wisdom, your editor has NOT published > my > > > > letter,quite deliberately ? > > > > The Editor,Rajni Khan, has not had the courage to > > > publish > > > > my detailed explanation of the history of Lal Kitab...and how > > > people > > > > who blindly follow the sayings without cultivating intuition > > > etc.,are > > > > totally wrong and can never come close to the Great SEER of > the > > > past. > > > > That half-baked Lalkitab " experts " parade themselves > > > > as " Experts " must be condemned by you,IF you are FAIR and > > > SENSIBLE... > > > > Making money in the name of the GREAT SEER SHOULD BE ROUNDLY > > > CONDEMNED > > > > BY ALL SENSIBLE PEOPLE...instead Dharminder you seem to > be " one > > of > > > > them " ...no different in thinking.... > > > > It appears that neither are you rational in your > > > thinking > > > > nor fair nor even " learned " in Lalkitab literature...nor in > any > > > > branch of astrology,I seriously suspect...you are just trying > to > > > > defend your friends out of misplaced loyalty...! > > > > WHO IS BULL-SHITTING WHOM DHARMINDER ? ? > > > > Lal Kitab HAS NO RATIONALE...IT IS ONLY A COLLECTION > OF > > > THE > > > > SAYINGS OF A TRULY EVOLVED SEER OF OLD...I KNOW THIS FOR A > > > FACT...CAN > > > > ANY ONE CHALLENGE THIS STATEMENT ? > > > > IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS...TRULY, YOU ARE WORSE THAN > > > BEING > > > > STUPID...THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE WILL HAVE TO INVENT A NEW > ADJECTIVE > > > FOR > > > > YOU...! ! > > > > After reading this leter I hope you do not start to > > shit > > > > like a bull... > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > Dear Rao, > > > > > I am following the conversation for many weeks now and I > found > > > you > > > > are absolute STUPID person in this entire conversation, that > > > proves > > > > my hypothesis that age doesn't have any connection with > wisdom. > > > > Please stop your all bullsh'it. > > > > > God bless you. > > > > > Dharmender > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > Sunday, April 06, 2008 2:13 PM > > > > > lalkitab > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: lalkitab rationale - .lk.rao > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir, > > > > > That is the most STUPID reply I've ever come across... > > > > > Is this Lal Kitab site made up by people specialising in > > > > > giving STUPID REPLIES...? ! > > > > > Somebody needs to stop this kind of rubbish from members of > > > > > this site...it reflects directly upon the calibre of ALL > > members > > > of > > > > > this group...already so many have simply either RUN AWAY OR, > > > GONE > > > > INTO > > > > > HIBERNATION...! ! ! > > > > > I CAN ONLY PITY YOU ALL... > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rao sir, please read farmaan no.4 of lalkitab in 1952 > edition > > > the > > > > > > rationale is explained here. > > > > > > kulbirbance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.