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LAL KITAB AND ITS AUTHOR.

 

Lal kitab was written by Pt. Rup Chand Joshi, born on 18th January,

1888, in the home of Shri Jyoti Ram Joshi, resident of village

Pharwala, Tehsil Noormahal, District Julundhar, Punjab. Pt. ji was

exceptionally good in studies and was rewarded with scholarships

during his student life. He had a particular interest in linguistics

and studied Urdu, English and Persian with great enthusiasm, he also

excelled in mathematics. He was blessed with an exceptionally good

handwriting and it continued to excel in it till his very end, was

very fond of good quality pens and had a remarkable collection of

expensive pens of all brands.

He got employed in the Defense Accounts and retired as Assistant

Accounts Officer.

Pt. ji started his astrological journey with the study of palmistry.

Thereafter he delved in astronomy and astrology and studied all the

astrological works in detail.

He reached the conclusion that the planetary effect of planets on

human destiny can be judged by both palmistry and astrology. He also

had god gifted knowledge of reading signs, such as facial features,

built etc. also he possessed the knowledge of vastu.

He attempted to combine all these by inter-linking them and termed

this combined knowledge as Samudrik knowledge i.e. the ocean where

all these predictive and remedial science or arts mingled

In his maiden attempt he authored the book titled Samudrik Ki

Lalkitab Ke Farmaan in 1939 AD. This book was a little difficult to

understand as it relied heavily on palmistry and had many mistakes

maybe due to some printing error or negligence.

This book was followed by another book in 1940 titled Samudrik Ki

Lalkitab Ke Armaan. This book in it's introductory noted advised the

reader to read this book alongwith the previous one and had a

detailed line and page wise correction list for 1939 edition at its

end.

It was followed by Lalkitab Teesra Hissa in 1941, it was a book for

ready reference, poetry was used in lalkitab for the first time to

help the readers help in memorizing the concepts.

The next edition was titled Lalkitab Tarmeemshuda published in

1942 , it is the most elaborate and detailed book on lalkitab

ideology. It was followed by next edition after a span of 10 years

in 1952 as Ilm-e Samudrik ki buniyad par jyotish ki lalkitab.

The books featured the name of Pt Rup Chand Joshi's cousin (son of

his parental uncle) Pt. Girdahari Lal as he publisher and Pt Atma

Ram Sharma, resident of village Rahan, Tehsil Noorpur, District

Kangra as the calligrapher.

After his retirement pt. ji continued the practice of astrological

consultancy full fledged at his native village. Pt ji's family had a

good land holding and his son joined government service as a n

officer in revenue department. He took up this practice purely out

of his interest in the subject.

Pt ji was a whimsical person. At times he looked out to be a simple

villager but he was also found of latest suits and conversed

fluently in flawless English. Since he was in constant touch with

britishers during most o his service, these mannerism grooped in him.

Although he had himself authored the books but he never gave his

opinion on the kundali without reading from the book. He expired on

24th December 1982.

 

REGARDS

KULBIRBANCE.

 

lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. " <lyrastro1

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir,

> Thank you for your constructive reaction...I must

thank

> you for the info about the history of Lal Kitab,I could be

wrong,as a

> matter of fact, a lot of the history is nebulous,to say the

least...

> I wish there were people like you in your group...

> I was actually refering to the books published by a

noted

> publisher of Delhi...also pl. read " Serpent Power " by Ohilip

Rawson...

> Any way,I shall post you an interesting article

written

> my me on the subject...pl. semd me your e-mail ID...

> Here, I must add,that one will be favoured with

> Moksha,Freedom from Rebirth,in this Birth only based upon his

total

> Kaarmic Score (SANCHITA + PRARABDHA + AGAMI or VARTAMANA or

KRIYAMANA)

> ACHARYA RAJNISH,Pt.GOPI KRISHNA,SWAMI PARIGNYANASHRAM

and

> a TANTRIC,I met at the Kamaksha Temple in Guwahati,years ago,are

the

> only 4 persons,in my life I have personally met with,and who had a

> Jagruth Kundalini...!

> Kindly send me your e-mail ID and we could converse

> withouit needless interjections...

> With kind regards,

> L.Y.Rao.

> >

> > Respected Rao sir, i have the book kundalini by pt. gopi krishan

of

> > jammu and also another one by by robert swabodha .indeed the

book

> of

> > pt. gopi krishan is a very wonderful and honest book on first

hand

> > experience of kundalini. your are exactly correct in what u have

> > said. but there is some wrong information also.

> > 1. it is not correct that books were published afdter his death.

pt

> > ji expired in 80's where as the books were printed published and

> > distributed in 1939, 1940, 1941, 1942 and 1952. it is on record

> that

> > pt. roop chand or roop lal joshi himself got the books printed

and

> > published and sold on no profit basis. he wanted to share his

> > knowledge. confused over the fact that why people born at same

time

> > and place, also of same parents don't have identical destinies,

how

> > come that people with different horoscopes die in the same

> accident;

> > how to interpret lines of palm when they keep on changing; why

is

> > the same house auspicious for one but not for other, he studied,

> did

> > sadhna, was blessed and drew some conclusions which he himself

got

> > printed.pt atma ram sharma of kangra was the katib and books

> > published in the name of shri girdhari lal, his relative and

close

> > friend. pt ji expired 30 years after the last edition was

published.

> > 2. u r true that some people collected and made a list of upayas

> > which pt ji recommended to people who visited him. they simply

> noted

> > the remedies and one of them published his own book on its

basis.

> > these remedies are not mentioned in any edition of lalkitab but

> > there is evidence that pt ji prescribed them.

> > 3.u r true that pt ji's divine intution was instrumental in

> crafting

> > these remedies. this divine intution can be aroused only by

> > kundalini sadhna. how to develop kundalini is a different

subject

> > having many aspects but that much is true that it is not a

> > scientific or mathematical book of formulas. it is definitely

true

> > that pt ji had made a connection through kundalini and the book

is

> > mainly written on the basis of his visions.

> > 4. another intersting thing that i have come across is that

> > different persons prescribe same remedies for same planatary

> > combinations but some persons success rate is very high and some

> > fail miserably.

> > sir i know u have read and researched a lot. u have a lot to

give.

> > please be generous and share. also admit where u r wrong like

the

> > history of lalkitab books u r totally wrong. there is

documantary

> > evidence to prove it so.

> > waiting for ur reply

> > kulbirbance

> >

> >

> > lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. " <lyrastro1@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir,

> > > I had written to Rajni Khan that my friends and I

> were

> > > very much aware of The SEER,the late Roop Chand Joshi who was

> > truly

> > > a great SEER,who,after years of Sadhana with great devotion

was

> > > rewarded by the Almighty with the powers of

prognostication,and

> > Vaaka

> > > Sidhdhi,etc.,and he became very famous...but some people have

> > noted

> > > down whatever he had said and sfter his death,simply used his

> name

> > > and are trying to think that they can work miracles like

> > him,simply

> > > by virtue of being his followers...and repeating what he

> > said...buty

> > > all in vain...

> > > This is so,simply because they have NOT been

GRANTED

> > > these powers,which they unfortunately think can be obtained

> simply

> > by

> > > copying him...They did no qualify to get these powers for the

> lack

> > of

> > > the requisite devotion/sacrifice/penance/Sadhana etc. !

> > > Simply by repeating his sayings like parrots,NONE

of

> > them

> > > can hope to achieve even 1% of what the Great SEER did and

could

> > > do...THEY SHOULD DEVELOP INTUITION...PERFORM REGULAR SADHANA

WITH

> > > GREAT DEVOTION AND BECOME ONE WITH UNIVERSAL

INTELLIGENCE/GOD/OR

> > > WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL HIM...ONLY THEN CASN ONE AROUSE HIS

> > > KUNDALINI TO PIERCE THE VARIOUS CHAKRAS AND THE PIERCING OF

EACH

> > > CHAKRA WILL BESTOW DIFFERENT SIDHDHIS UPON THE SADHAKA...AND

> > FINALLY

> > > WHEN IT PIERCES THE SAHSRARA CHAKRA AT THE CROWN OF THE

HEAD,HE

> > WILL

> > > GAIN MOKSHA...OR FREEDOM FROM REBIRTH...

> > > Thank you for admitting that you were prevented

from

> > > reading my similar letter,by Rajni Khan ...for reasons unknown

to

> > > me...but I guess,due to ignorance...and not publishing my

> letter...

> > > If desired I can mail you more details...or else

it

> > will

> > > be better if you could read the excellent series on this

subject

> > by

> > > the famous late Pt.Gopi Krishna of Srinagar,Kashmir(founder of

> the

> > > Kundalini Foundation in Switzerland,the USA, etc.)...which has

a

> > > preface by the President of the world-famous Max Planck

Institute,

> > > Prof Wiseacker...

> > > This phenomenon has been deeply studied at the

> > Stanford

> > > University too...since long years...

> > > I hope this will quench not only your thirst,but

your

> > > entire Lal Kitab Group for deeper knowledge,or perhaps kindle

it

> > even

> > > more...!

> > > I shall appreciate some sensible reaction/response

to

> > the

> > > above from you or any one from your Group...so far I have

waited

> > in

> > > vain...geting stupid mails only...

> > > Kindly discuss this among your group members

too...If

> > > need be I shall help as much as I can...I have taken an oath

on

> > the

> > > request of my Guru to SPREAD THIS KNOWLEDGE...AS MUCH AS I

CAN...

> > > Now,Kulbir you will appreciate how biased and

badly

> > > behaved your members were,in their replies...

> > > Do not forget to send me your reaction...

> > > Yours sincerely,

> > > L.Y.Rao.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > rajni ji; rao sir is claiming that he forwarded a letter

about

> > > > history of lalkitab which u didn't approve of. kindly

approve

> > that

> > > > letter. lets see what is trenched in his mind. as for his

> > > intentions

> > > > i requested him to read farmaan no.4 of 1952 edition for

> > rationale

> > > > of this book. he calls me stupid and closes up. members can

> read

> > > the

> > > > said farmaan for themselves, the rationale of this system of

> > book

> > > > has been discussed in detail there.

> > > > i want to read his version about history of lalkitab, may be

> > > > commenting upon it will help many to straighten there

approach

> > > > towards this book.

> > > > please release his message, the message of a disillusioned

> > person

> > > > cannot harm this book in any manner

> > > > regards

> > > > kulbirbance

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab , " L.Y.Rao. "

> > <lyrastro1@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dharminder,

> > > > > If you and your friends are NOT STUPID,why

didn't

> > they

> > > > come

> > > > > out in the OPEN and tell all,the very first time, that

> > Lalkitab

> > > is

> > > > a

> > > > > collection of the sayings of a great SEER...THEY FIRST

MADE

> > WIERD

> > > > > CLAIMS ,WHEN CHALLENGED THEY JUST RAN AWAY...AND ARE STILL

> > > > > HIBERNATING...unfortunately the TRUTH IS THAT,the SEER had

> > been

> > > > > gifted by GOD,the faculty of intuition and precognisance

> etc.,

> > > > only

> > > > > after LONG YEARS OF PAINSTAKING SADHANA...but you and your

> > > friends

> > > > > want to become like him without or little Sadhana,and

simply

> > by

> > > > > quoting what he is " reported " to have said...

> > > > > Now Dharminder...WHO IS MORE QUALIFIED TO BE

> STUPID ?

> > > > > I have already written at length about this,but

it

> > > seems

> > > > > that in his/her profound wisdom, your editor has NOT

> published

> > my

> > > > > letter,quite deliberately ?

> > > > > The Editor,Rajni Khan, has not had the courage

to

> > > > publish

> > > > > my detailed explanation of the history of Lal Kitab...and

how

> > > > people

> > > > > who blindly follow the sayings without cultivating

intuition

> > > > etc.,are

> > > > > totally wrong and can never come close to the Great SEER

of

> > the

> > > > past.

> > > > > That half-baked Lalkitab " experts " parade

> themselves

> > > > > as " Experts " must be condemned by you,IF you are FAIR and

> > > > SENSIBLE...

> > > > > Making money in the name of the GREAT SEER SHOULD BE

ROUNDLY

> > > > CONDEMNED

> > > > > BY ALL SENSIBLE PEOPLE...instead Dharminder you seem to

> > be " one

> > > of

> > > > > them " ...no different in thinking....

> > > > > It appears that neither are you rational in your

> > > > thinking

> > > > > nor fair nor even " learned " in Lalkitab literature...nor

in

> > any

> > > > > branch of astrology,I seriously suspect...you are just

trying

> > to

> > > > > defend your friends out of misplaced loyalty...!

> > > > > WHO IS BULL-SHITTING WHOM DHARMINDER ? ?

> > > > > Lal Kitab HAS NO RATIONALE...IT IS ONLY A

> COLLECTION

> > OF

> > > > THE

> > > > > SAYINGS OF A TRULY EVOLVED SEER OF OLD...I KNOW THIS FOR A

> > > > FACT...CAN

> > > > > ANY ONE CHALLENGE THIS STATEMENT ?

> > > > > IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS...TRULY, YOU ARE WORSE

THAN

> > > > BEING

> > > > > STUPID...THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE WILL HAVE TO INVENT A NEW

> > ADJECTIVE

> > > > FOR

> > > > > YOU...! !

> > > > > After reading this leter I hope you do not start

to

> > > shit

> > > > > like a bull...

> > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rao,

> > > > > > I am following the conversation for many weeks now and I

> > found

> > > > you

> > > > > are absolute STUPID person in this entire conversation,

that

> > > > proves

> > > > > my hypothesis that age doesn't have any connection with

> > wisdom.

> > > > > Please stop your all bullsh'it.

> > > > > > God bless you.

> > > > > > Dharmender

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > > Sunday, April 06, 2008 2:13 PM

> > > > > > lalkitab

> > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: lalkitab rationale -

> .lk.rao

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Kulbir,

> > > > > > That is the most STUPID reply I've ever come across...

> > > > > > Is this Lal Kitab site made up by people specialising in

> > > > > > giving STUPID REPLIES...? !

> > > > > > Somebody needs to stop this kind of rubbish from members

of

> > > > > > this site...it reflects directly upon the calibre of ALL

> > > members

> > > > of

> > > > > > this group...already so many have simply either RUN AWAY

> OR,

> > > > GONE

> > > > > INTO

> > > > > > HIBERNATION...! ! !

> > > > > > I CAN ONLY PITY YOU ALL...

> > > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rao sir, please read farmaan no.4 of lalkitab in 1952

> > edition

> > > > the

> > > > > > > rationale is explained here.

> > > > > > > kulbirbance

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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