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Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 om krishna guru, dear member, Astrology is a branch of study of space and time with indiviadual or national charts or purticular events based on movment of celestial bodies at a given point of time.This moving planets cause some effect individualy and collectively and some times influencing some points in chart.,and its derived by rishis or savants of yore and they hav calculated some points of influence which can be calculated mathematicaly and called each sons of nava grahas,If u can remember the chaya grahas like rahu and ketu also doesnot hav physical body and its mathematical points. The following r the 9 major sensitive points. The following r grahas and their upagrahas (or called sons of this grahas) 1)sun-kaala 2)moon--paridhi 3)mars--dhooma 4)mercury-ardhaprahara 5)jupiter-yamakanda 6)venus-kodanta(chapa) 7)rahu---patha 8)ketu-upaketu 9)sani---gulika there r other sensitive points also dhooma ,vyathipatha,parivesha,indrachapa,and ketu (differrent from other ketu) known as tertiary planets or aprakashita grhas. so gulika is considered like son of sani like mandi(son of manda) also and most of the gr8 authors like parasara ,varahmihira ,kaalidasa,mandawya has discussed it ,though many of the translations r not available in details or in hiding with parampara.(gupt) gulika is mostly used in kerala astrology for jataka ,prashna ,deva prashna or muhurta. and also used in various calculations .for deciding death or badhaka orblack magik or even pisacha badha some equated with 8th house significations like 64th navamsa lord or 22nd drekkana lord or 8th lord itself if gulika is sitting without any saving grace. even some employ special dasa called gulika dasa. also in ashtamangala prashna(very comprehensiv and elaborate prashna done in joint families and royal families where they r 200 0r more members) and deva prashna (temple prashna --for seeing wish of god ,normaly conducted every 12th years or wenever find any un happy incidents). They arrive thrishputa,chatursphuta,panchasputa,deha sputa,mrityu sphuta,sookshma trisputa,mrityu chakra etc to delinate results. Some acharyas of the opinion that this gulika and mandi r same . Generaly gulika (actualy meaning is - a small tablet in malayalam laungauge-remeber homeo medicinal tablet) is considered very bad and sometimes equal to death to the signifiactions to the lords he sit with or he influence tru various ways,if sitting badly. Even in rectifications of birth charts ,the old pandits in kerala use it as they say without knowledge of gulika a delivery cannot happen .It rises 2 times in a day ,one at day time and one at nite time . hope these information helps u. regds sunil nair . http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> om shreem mahalaxmai namah. vedic astrology , " calerom2006 " <calerom2006 wrote: > > What it is Gulika in astrological terms and its meaning inside of the > natal chart? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Sunil ji, Scholarly post! Thanks for taking the time to write it. Obviously you have studied and researched this topic for sometime. Would you like to comment on the two methods that are used in calculating Gulika, the ending moment of saturn vs the starting moment of the 'ownerless' part that follows... RR vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > om krishna guru, > > dear member, > > Astrology is a branch of study of space and time with > indiviadual or national charts or purticular events based on movment of > celestial bodies at a given point of time.This moving planets cause some > effect individualy and collectively and some times influencing some > points in chart.,and its derived by rishis or savants of yore and they > hav calculated some points of influence which can be calculated > mathematicaly and called each sons of nava grahas,If u can remember the > chaya grahas like rahu and ketu also doesnot hav physical body and its > mathematical points. > > The following r the 9 major sensitive points. > > The following r grahas and their upagrahas (or called sons of this > grahas) > > 1)sun-kaala 2)moon--paridhi 3)mars--dhooma 4)mercury- ardhaprahara > 5)jupiter-yamakanda 6)venus-kodanta(chapa) 7)rahu---patha > 8)ketu-upaketu 9)sani---gulika > > there r other sensitive points also dhooma > ,vyathipatha,parivesha,indrachapa,and ketu (differrent from other ketu) > known as tertiary planets or aprakashita grhas. > > so gulika is considered like son of sani like mandi(son of manda) also > > and most of the gr8 authors like parasara ,varahmihira > ,kaalidasa,mandawya has discussed it ,though many of the translations r > not available in details or in hiding with parampara.(gupt) > > gulika is mostly used in kerala astrology for jataka ,prashna ,deva > prashna or muhurta. > > and also used in various calculations .for deciding death or badhaka > orblack magik or even pisacha badha > > some equated with 8th house significations like 64th navamsa lord or > 22nd drekkana lord or 8th lord itself if gulika is sitting without any > saving grace. > > even some employ special dasa called gulika dasa. > > also in ashtamangala prashna(very comprehensiv and elaborate prashna > done in joint families and royal families where they r 200 0r more > members) and deva prashna (temple prashna --for seeing wish of god > ,normaly conducted every 12th years or wenever find any un happy > incidents). > > They arrive thrishputa,chatursphuta,panchasputa,deha sputa,mrityu > sphuta,sookshma trisputa,mrityu chakra etc to delinate results. > > Some acharyas of the opinion that this gulika and mandi r same . > > Generaly gulika (actualy meaning is - a small tablet in malayalam > laungauge-remeber homeo medicinal tablet) is considered very bad and > sometimes equal to death to the signifiactions to the lords he sit with > or he influence tru various ways,if sitting badly. > > Even in rectifications of birth charts ,the old pandits in kerala use > it as they say without knowledge of gulika a delivery cannot happen .It > rises 2 times in a day ,one at day time and one at nite time . > > hope these information helps u. > > regds sunil nair . > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > vedic astrology , " calerom2006 " <calerom2006@> > wrote: > > > > What it is Gulika in astrological terms and its meaning inside of the > > natal chart? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 I thought ghati was closer to 24 minutes, but unless I am misinterpreting you, you treat is as a lot longer (1/4 ghati = 96 minutes). Or did you mean the period starts 1/4th ghati before ending (last six minutes) and extends for another 90 minutes? RR vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > Om krishna guru, > > respected ranjan da, > > namaskars and pranams, > > My gurupadesam is last part of sani which will be correspond to 1/4 > ghatikas earlier,has a span of almost 96 minitsand depending on dina > mana or ratri mana, and take gulika and mandi as one ,and its followed > by most of the traditions of kerala astrology. > > Though parasara,muhurtha chintha mani and all is said that the > 8th division is nireesa (no lord) prashna marga attributes it to rahu.so > end portion of sani is taken and sannyamso gulika: smrita:And seperate > calculation is for day and nite.Now a days no customers are allowing to > go for details and softwares r available and subtle calculations are > ignored like other deriving sphutas and applications and chakras . > > Even though 2 seperate calculations for mandi and gulika is > available,when ennumerating results these differrence disappears . > > sri sanjayji has a differrent opinion and he use each seperately and > derive results of karma phala or from satru dosh (from others > )depending on gulika or maandi. > > This is my humble opinions . > > seniors and gurus ,pls correct me . > > respectfully sunil nair > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Sunil ji, > > > > Scholarly post! Thanks for taking the time to write it. > > > > Obviously you have studied and researched this topic for sometime. > > Would you like to comment on the two methods that are used in > > calculating Gulika, the ending moment of saturn vs the starting > > moment of the 'ownerless' part that follows... > > > > RR > > > > > > vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > dear member, > > > > > > Astrology is a branch of study of space and time with > > > indiviadual or national charts or purticular events based on > > movment of > > > celestial bodies at a given point of time.This moving planets cause > > some > > > effect individualy and collectively and some times influencing some > > > points in chart.,and its derived by rishis or savants of yore and > > they > > > hav calculated some points of influence which can be calculated > > > mathematicaly and called each sons of nava grahas,If u can remember > > the > > > chaya grahas like rahu and ketu also doesnot hav physical body and > > its > > > mathematical points. > > > > > > The following r the 9 major sensitive points. > > > > > > The following r grahas and their upagrahas (or called sons of this > > > grahas) > > > > > > 1)sun-kaala 2)moon--paridhi 3)mars--dhooma 4)mercury- > > ardhaprahara > > > 5)jupiter-yamakanda 6)venus-kodanta(chapa) 7)rahu---patha > > > 8)ketu-upaketu 9)sani---gulika > > > > > > there r other sensitive points also dhooma > > > ,vyathipatha,parivesha,indrachapa,and ketu (differrent from other > > ketu) > > > known as tertiary planets or aprakashita grhas. > > > > > > so gulika is considered like son of sani like mandi(son of manda) > > also > > > > > > and most of the gr8 authors like parasara ,varahmihira > > > ,kaalidasa,mandawya has discussed it ,though many of the > > translations r > > > not available in details or in hiding with parampara.(gupt) > > > > > > gulika is mostly used in kerala astrology for jataka ,prashna ,deva > > > prashna or muhurta. > > > > > > and also used in various calculations .for deciding death or badhaka > > > orblack magik or even pisacha badha > > > > > > some equated with 8th house significations like 64th navamsa lord or > > > 22nd drekkana lord or 8th lord itself if gulika is sitting without > > any > > > saving grace. > > > > > > even some employ special dasa called gulika dasa. > > > > > > also in ashtamangala prashna(very comprehensiv and elaborate prashna > > > done in joint families and royal families where they r 200 0r more > > > members) and deva prashna (temple prashna --for seeing wish of god > > > ,normaly conducted every 12th years or wenever find any un happy > > > incidents). > > > > > > They arrive thrishputa,chatursphuta,panchasputa,deha sputa,mrityu > > > sphuta,sookshma trisputa,mrityu chakra etc to delinate results. > > > > > > Some acharyas of the opinion that this gulika and mandi r same . > > > > > > Generaly gulika (actualy meaning is - a small tablet in > > malayalam > > > laungauge-remeber homeo medicinal tablet) is considered very bad and > > > sometimes equal to death to the signifiactions to the lords he sit > > with > > > or he influence tru various ways,if sitting badly. > > > > > > Even in rectifications of birth charts ,the old pandits in > > kerala use > > > it as they say without knowledge of gulika a delivery cannot > > happen .It > > > rises 2 times in a day ,one at day time and one at nite time . > > > > > > hope these information helps u. > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " calerom2006 " <calerom2006@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > What it is Gulika in astrological terms and its meaning inside of > > the > > > > natal chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Om krishna guru repested ranjanji, Yes total is 4 ghatikas (nadika in malyalm --equal to 24 minits). It will increase or decrease according to dinamana (dat time ) or ratri mana (nite time ) and take proportaionate time . Since mathematical part ,now a days i am not using as ,i refer earleir .customers wants as if answers from a vending machine and now lot of progrmmes and panchangas availble .Only those who take appt and comes at proper time some times i use it and almost loosing its applications. And also they dont hav time even if we r ready to spend . yes ending part is 1/4 ghatikas will not be the influence as next kaala lord comes into actions . There is 2 kind of calculations one for gulikodaya and another for gulik kaala like our familiar rahu kaala hope it clears . respectfully sunil nair . http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> om shreem mahalaxmai namah. vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > I thought ghati was closer to 24 minutes, but unless I am > misinterpreting you, you treat is as a lot longer (1/4 ghati = 96 > minutes). Or did you mean the period starts 1/4th ghati before ending > (last six minutes) and extends for another 90 minutes? > > RR > > vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > Om krishna guru, > > > > respected ranjan da, > > > > namaskars and pranams, > > > > My gurupadesam is last part of sani which will be correspond to > 1/4 > > ghatikas earlier,has a span of almost 96 minitsand depending on dina > > mana or ratri mana, and take gulika and mandi as one ,and its > followed > > by most of the traditions of kerala astrology. > > > > Though parasara,muhurtha chintha mani and all is said that > the > > 8th division is nireesa (no lord) prashna marga attributes it to > rahu.so > > end portion of sani is taken and sannyamso gulika: smrita:And > seperate > > calculation is for day and nite.Now a days no customers are > allowing to > > go for details and softwares r available and subtle calculations are > > ignored like other deriving sphutas and applications and chakras . > > > > Even though 2 seperate calculations for mandi and gulika is > > available,when ennumerating results these differrence disappears . > > > > sri sanjayji has a differrent opinion and he use each seperately > and > > derive results of karma phala or from satru dosh (from others > > )depending on gulika or maandi. > > > > This is my humble opinions . > > > > seniors and gurus ,pls correct me . > > > > respectfully sunil nair > > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > Sunil ji, > > > > > > Scholarly post! Thanks for taking the time to write it. > > > > > > Obviously you have studied and researched this topic for sometime. > > > Would you like to comment on the two methods that are used in > > > calculating Gulika, the ending moment of saturn vs the starting > > > moment of the 'ownerless' part that follows... > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > dear member, > > > > > > > > Astrology is a branch of study of space and time with > > > > indiviadual or national charts or purticular events based on > > > movment of > > > > celestial bodies at a given point of time.This moving planets > cause > > > some > > > > effect individualy and collectively and some times influencing > some > > > > points in chart.,and its derived by rishis or savants of yore > and > > > they > > > > hav calculated some points of influence which can be calculated > > > > mathematicaly and called each sons of nava grahas,If u can > remember > > > the > > > > chaya grahas like rahu and ketu also doesnot hav physical body > and > > > its > > > > mathematical points. > > > > > > > > The following r the 9 major sensitive points. > > > > > > > > The following r grahas and their upagrahas (or called sons of > this > > > > grahas) > > > > > > > > 1)sun-kaala 2)moon--paridhi 3)mars--dhooma 4)mercury- > > > ardhaprahara > > > > 5)jupiter-yamakanda 6)venus-kodanta(chapa) 7)rahu---patha > > > > 8)ketu-upaketu 9)sani---gulika > > > > > > > > there r other sensitive points also dhooma > > > > ,vyathipatha,parivesha,indrachapa,and ketu (differrent from > other > > > ketu) > > > > known as tertiary planets or aprakashita grhas. > > > > > > > > so gulika is considered like son of sani like mandi(son of > manda) > > > also > > > > > > > > and most of the gr8 authors like parasara ,varahmihira > > > > ,kaalidasa,mandawya has discussed it ,though many of the > > > translations r > > > > not available in details or in hiding with parampara.(gupt) > > > > > > > > gulika is mostly used in kerala astrology for > jataka ,prashna ,deva > > > > prashna or muhurta. > > > > > > > > and also used in various calculations .for deciding death or > badhaka > > > > orblack magik or even pisacha badha > > > > > > > > some equated with 8th house significations like 64th navamsa > lord or > > > > 22nd drekkana lord or 8th lord itself if gulika is sitting > without > > > any > > > > saving grace. > > > > > > > > even some employ special dasa called gulika dasa. > > > > > > > > also in ashtamangala prashna(very comprehensiv and elaborate > prashna > > > > done in joint families and royal families where they r 200 0r > more > > > > members) and deva prashna (temple prashna --for seeing wish of > god > > > > ,normaly conducted every 12th years or wenever find any un happy > > > > incidents). > > > > > > > > They arrive thrishputa,chatursphuta,panchasputa,deha > sputa,mrityu > > > > sphuta,sookshma trisputa,mrityu chakra etc to delinate results. > > > > > > > > Some acharyas of the opinion that this gulika and mandi r same . > > > > > > > > Generaly gulika (actualy meaning is - a small tablet in > > > malayalam > > > > laungauge-remeber homeo medicinal tablet) is considered very > bad and > > > > sometimes equal to death to the signifiactions to the lords he > sit > > > with > > > > or he influence tru various ways,if sitting badly. > > > > > > > > Even in rectifications of birth charts ,the old pandits in > > > kerala use > > > > it as they say without knowledge of gulika a delivery cannot > > > happen .It > > > > rises 2 times in a day ,one at day time and one at nite time . > > > > > > > > hope these information helps u. > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > > > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " calerom2006 " > <calerom2006@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What it is Gulika in astrological terms and its meaning > inside of > > > the > > > > > natal chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Om krishna guru repested ranjanji, Yes total is 4 ghatikas (nadika in malyalm --equal to 24 minits). It will increase or decrease according to dinamana (dat time ) or ratri mana (nite time ) and take proportaionate time . Since mathematical part ,now a days i am not using as ,i refer earleir .customers wants as if answers from a vending machine and now lot of progrmmes and panchangas availble .Only those who take appt and comes at proper time some times i use it and almost loosing its applications. And also they dont hav time even if we r ready to spend . yes ending part is 1/4 ghatikas will not be the influence as next kaala lord comes into actions . There is 2 kind of calculations one for gulikodaya and another for gulik kaala like our familiar rahu kaala hope it clears . respectfully sunil nair . http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> om shreem mahalaxmai namah. vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > I thought ghati was closer to 24 minutes, but unless I am > misinterpreting you, you treat is as a lot longer (1/4 ghati = 96 > minutes). Or did you mean the period starts 1/4th ghati before ending > (last six minutes) and extends for another 90 minutes? > > RR > > vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > Om krishna guru, > > > > respected ranjan da, > > > > namaskars and pranams, > > > > My gurupadesam is last part of sani which will be correspond to > 1/4 > > ghatikas earlier,has a span of almost 96 minitsand depending on dina > > mana or ratri mana, and take gulika and mandi as one ,and its > followed > > by most of the traditions of kerala astrology. > > > > Though parasara,muhurtha chintha mani and all is said that > the > > 8th division is nireesa (no lord) prashna marga attributes it to > rahu.so > > end portion of sani is taken and sannyamso gulika: smrita:And > seperate > > calculation is for day and nite.Now a days no customers are > allowing to > > go for details and softwares r available and subtle calculations are > > ignored like other deriving sphutas and applications and chakras . > > > > Even though 2 seperate calculations for mandi and gulika is > > available,when ennumerating results these differrence disappears . > > > > sri sanjayji has a differrent opinion and he use each seperately > and > > derive results of karma phala or from satru dosh (from others > > )depending on gulika or maandi. > > > > This is my humble opinions . > > > > seniors and gurus ,pls correct me . > > > > respectfully sunil nair > > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > Sunil ji, > > > > > > Scholarly post! Thanks for taking the time to write it. > > > > > > Obviously you have studied and researched this topic for sometime. > > > Would you like to comment on the two methods that are used in > > > calculating Gulika, the ending moment of saturn vs the starting > > > moment of the 'ownerless' part that follows... > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > dear member, > > > > > > > > Astrology is a branch of study of space and time with > > > > indiviadual or national charts or purticular events based on > > > movment of > > > > celestial bodies at a given point of time.This moving planets > cause > > > some > > > > effect individualy and collectively and some times influencing > some > > > > points in chart.,and its derived by rishis or savants of yore > and > > > they > > > > hav calculated some points of influence which can be calculated > > > > mathematicaly and called each sons of nava grahas,If u can > remember > > > the > > > > chaya grahas like rahu and ketu also doesnot hav physical body > and > > > its > > > > mathematical points. > > > > > > > > The following r the 9 major sensitive points. > > > > > > > > The following r grahas and their upagrahas (or called sons of > this > > > > grahas) > > > > > > > > 1)sun-kaala 2)moon--paridhi 3)mars--dhooma 4)mercury- > > > ardhaprahara > > > > 5)jupiter-yamakanda 6)venus-kodanta(chapa) 7)rahu---patha > > > > 8)ketu-upaketu 9)sani---gulika > > > > > > > > there r other sensitive points also dhooma > > > > ,vyathipatha,parivesha,indrachapa,and ketu (differrent from > other > > > ketu) > > > > known as tertiary planets or aprakashita grhas. > > > > > > > > so gulika is considered like son of sani like mandi(son of > manda) > > > also > > > > > > > > and most of the gr8 authors like parasara ,varahmihira > > > > ,kaalidasa,mandawya has discussed it ,though many of the > > > translations r > > > > not available in details or in hiding with parampara.(gupt) > > > > > > > > gulika is mostly used in kerala astrology for > jataka ,prashna ,deva > > > > prashna or muhurta. > > > > > > > > and also used in various calculations .for deciding death or > badhaka > > > > orblack magik or even pisacha badha > > > > > > > > some equated with 8th house significations like 64th navamsa > lord or > > > > 22nd drekkana lord or 8th lord itself if gulika is sitting > without > > > any > > > > saving grace. > > > > > > > > even some employ special dasa called gulika dasa. > > > > > > > > also in ashtamangala prashna(very comprehensiv and elaborate > prashna > > > > done in joint families and royal families where they r 200 0r > more > > > > members) and deva prashna (temple prashna --for seeing wish of > god > > > > ,normaly conducted every 12th years or wenever find any un happy > > > > incidents). > > > > > > > > They arrive thrishputa,chatursphuta,panchasputa,deha > sputa,mrityu > > > > sphuta,sookshma trisputa,mrityu chakra etc to delinate results. > > > > > > > > Some acharyas of the opinion that this gulika and mandi r same . > > > > > > > > Generaly gulika (actualy meaning is - a small tablet in > > > malayalam > > > > laungauge-remeber homeo medicinal tablet) is considered very > bad and > > > > sometimes equal to death to the signifiactions to the lords he > sit > > > with > > > > or he influence tru various ways,if sitting badly. > > > > > > > > Even in rectifications of birth charts ,the old pandits in > > > kerala use > > > > it as they say without knowledge of gulika a delivery cannot > > > happen .It > > > > rises 2 times in a day ,one at day time and one at nite time . > > > > > > > > hope these information helps u. > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > > > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " calerom2006 " > <calerom2006@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What it is Gulika in astrological terms and its meaning > inside of > > > the > > > > > natal chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Respected astrologers Sunil Nair and Rohini Ranjan, and all: I am very grateful for yours to have given a well detailled explanation regarding the Gulika. My name is Marcelo, I entered in this group recently. Although I to know and to have studied western astrology for seven years, still I am a beginner in jyotish. I hope to be able to learn more. Regards, Marcelo. vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > Om krishna guru > > repested ranjanji, > > Yes total is 4 ghatikas (nadika in malyalm --equal > to 24 minits). > > It will increase or decrease according to dinamana (dat time ) or ratri > mana (nite time ) and take proportaionate time . > > Since mathematical part ,now a days i am not using as ,i refer > earleir .customers wants as if answers from a vending machine and now > lot of progrmmes and panchangas availble .Only those who take appt and > comes at proper time some times i use it and almost loosing its > applications. > > And also they dont hav time even if we r ready to spend . > > yes ending part is 1/4 ghatikas will not be the influence as next > kaala lord comes into actions . > > There is 2 kind of calculations one for gulikodaya and another for gulik > kaala like our familiar rahu kaala > > hope it clears . > > respectfully sunil nair . > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > I thought ghati was closer to 24 minutes, but unless I am > > misinterpreting you, you treat is as a lot longer (1/4 ghati = 96 > > minutes). Or did you mean the period starts 1/4th ghati before ending > > (last six minutes) and extends for another 90 minutes? > > > > RR > > > > vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Om krishna guru, > > > > > > respected ranjan da, > > > > > > namaskars and pranams, > > > > > > My gurupadesam is last part of sani which will be correspond to > > 1/4 > > > ghatikas earlier,has a span of almost 96 minitsand depending on dina > > > mana or ratri mana, and take gulika and mandi as one ,and its > > followed > > > by most of the traditions of kerala astrology. > > > > > > Though parasara,muhurtha chintha mani and all is said that > > the > > > 8th division is nireesa (no lord) prashna marga attributes it to > > rahu.so > > > end portion of sani is taken and sannyamso gulika: smrita:And > > seperate > > > calculation is for day and nite.Now a days no customers are > > allowing to > > > go for details and softwares r available and subtle calculations are > > > ignored like other deriving sphutas and applications and chakras . > > > > > > Even though 2 seperate calculations for mandi and gulika is > > > available,when ennumerating results these differrence disappears . > > > > > > sri sanjayji has a differrent opinion and he use each seperately > > and > > > derive results of karma phala or from satru dosh (from others > > > )depending on gulika or maandi. > > > > > > This is my humble opinions . > > > > > > seniors and gurus ,pls correct me . > > > > > > respectfully sunil nair > > > > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan " > > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sunil ji, > > > > > > > > Scholarly post! Thanks for taking the time to write it. > > > > > > > > Obviously you have studied and researched this topic for sometime. > > > > Would you like to comment on the two methods that are used in > > > > calculating Gulika, the ending moment of saturn vs the starting > > > > moment of the 'ownerless' part that follows... > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala " > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > > > dear member, > > > > > > > > > > Astrology is a branch of study of space and time with > > > > > indiviadual or national charts or purticular events based on > > > > movment of > > > > > celestial bodies at a given point of time.This moving planets > > cause > > > > some > > > > > effect individualy and collectively and some times influencing > > some > > > > > points in chart.,and its derived by rishis or savants of yore > > and > > > > they > > > > > hav calculated some points of influence which can be calculated > > > > > mathematicaly and called each sons of nava grahas,If u can > > remember > > > > the > > > > > chaya grahas like rahu and ketu also doesnot hav physical body > > and > > > > its > > > > > mathematical points. > > > > > > > > > > The following r the 9 major sensitive points. > > > > > > > > > > The following r grahas and their upagrahas (or called sons of > > this > > > > > grahas) > > > > > > > > > > 1)sun-kaala 2)moon--paridhi 3)mars--dhooma 4)mercury- > > > > ardhaprahara > > > > > 5)jupiter-yamakanda 6)venus-kodanta(chapa) 7)rahu---patha > > > > > 8)ketu-upaketu 9)sani---gulika > > > > > > > > > > there r other sensitive points also dhooma > > > > > ,vyathipatha,parivesha,indrachapa,and ketu (differrent from > > other > > > > ketu) > > > > > known as tertiary planets or aprakashita grhas. > > > > > > > > > > so gulika is considered like son of sani like mandi(son of > > manda) > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > and most of the gr8 authors like parasara ,varahmihira > > > > > ,kaalidasa,mandawya has discussed it ,though many of the > > > > translations r > > > > > not available in details or in hiding with parampara.(gupt) > > > > > > > > > > gulika is mostly used in kerala astrology for > > jataka ,prashna ,deva > > > > > prashna or muhurta. > > > > > > > > > > and also used in various calculations .for deciding death or > > badhaka > > > > > orblack magik or even pisacha badha > > > > > > > > > > some equated with 8th house significations like 64th navamsa > > lord or > > > > > 22nd drekkana lord or 8th lord itself if gulika is sitting > > without > > > > any > > > > > saving grace. > > > > > > > > > > even some employ special dasa called gulika dasa. > > > > > > > > > > also in ashtamangala prashna(very comprehensiv and elaborate > > prashna > > > > > done in joint families and royal families where they r 200 0r > > more > > > > > members) and deva prashna (temple prashna --for seeing wish of > > god > > > > > ,normaly conducted every 12th years or wenever find any un happy > > > > > incidents). > > > > > > > > > > They arrive thrishputa,chatursphuta,panchasputa,deha > > sputa,mrityu > > > > > sphuta,sookshma trisputa,mrityu chakra etc to delinate results. > > > > > > > > > > Some acharyas of the opinion that this gulika and mandi r same . > > > > > > > > > > Generaly gulika (actualy meaning is - a small tablet in > > > > malayalam > > > > > laungauge-remeber homeo medicinal tablet) is considered very > > bad and > > > > > sometimes equal to death to the signifiactions to the lords he > > sit > > > > with > > > > > or he influence tru various ways,if sitting badly. > > > > > > > > > > Even in rectifications of birth charts ,the old pandits in > > > > kerala use > > > > > it as they say without knowledge of gulika a delivery cannot > > > > happen .It > > > > > rises 2 times in a day ,one at day time and one at nite time . > > > > > > > > > > hope these information helps u. > > > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > > > > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " calerom2006 " > > <calerom2006@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What it is Gulika in astrological terms and its meaning > > inside of > > > > the > > > > > > natal chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 *hare rama krsna* Dear Sunil Nair, Yes..our Sunil gave us beatiful lecture. Thank You. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 calerom2006 napisa?(a): > > Respected astrologers Sunil Nair and Rohini Ranjan, and all: > > I am very grateful for yours to have given a well detailled > explanation regarding the Gulika. > My name is Marcelo, I entered in this group recently. Although I to > know and to have studied western astrology for seven years, still I am > a beginner in jyotish. > I hope to be able to learn more. > > Regards, > > Marcelo. > > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, " astro_tellerkerala " > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > Om krishna guru > > > > repested ranjanji, > > > > Yes total is 4 ghatikas (nadika in malyalm > --equal > > to 24 minits). > > > > It will increase or decrease according to dinamana (dat time ) or ratri > > mana (nite time ) and take proportaionate time . > > > > Since mathematical part ,now a days i am not using as ,i refer > > earleir .customers wants as if answers from a vending machine and now > > lot of progrmmes and panchangas availble .Only those who take appt and > > comes at proper time some times i use it and almost loosing its > > applications. > > > > And also they dont hav time even if we r ready to spend . > > > > yes ending part is 1/4 ghatikas will not be the influence as next > > kaala lord comes into actions . > > > > There is 2 kind of calculations one for gulikodaya and another for gulik > > kaala like our familiar rahu kaala > > > > hope it clears . > > > > respectfully sunil nair . > > > > http://www.indiamar t.com/vedicastro logy/ > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > <http://www.indiamar t.com/vedicastro logy/ > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > I thought ghati was closer to 24 minutes, but unless I am > > > misinterpreting you, you treat is as a lot longer (1/4 ghati = 96 > > > minutes). Or did you mean the period starts 1/4th ghati before ending > > > (last six minutes) and extends for another 90 minutes? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, " astro_tellerkerala " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > respected ranjan da, > > > > > > > > namaskars and pranams, > > > > > > > > My gurupadesam is last part of sani which will be correspond to > > > 1/4 > > > > ghatikas earlier,has a span of almost 96 minitsand depending on dina > > > > mana or ratri mana, and take gulika and mandi as one ,and its > > > followed > > > > by most of the traditions of kerala astrology. > > > > > > > > Though parasara,muhurtha chintha mani and all is said that > > > the > > > > 8th division is nireesa (no lord) prashna marga attributes it to > > > rahu.so > > > > end portion of sani is taken and sannyamso gulika: smrita:And > > > seperate > > > > calculation is for day and nite.Now a days no customers are > > > allowing to > > > > go for details and softwares r available and subtle calculations are > > > > ignored like other deriving sphutas and applications and chakras . > > > > > > > > Even though 2 seperate calculations for mandi and gulika is > > > > available,when ennumerating results these differrence disappears . > > > > > > > > sri sanjayji has a differrent opinion and he use each seperately > > > and > > > > derive results of karma phala or from satru dosh (from others > > > > )depending on gulika or maandi. > > > > > > > > This is my humble opinions . > > > > > > > > seniors and gurus ,pls correct me . > > > > > > > > respectfully sunil nair > > > > > > > > http://www.indiamar t.com/vedicastro logy/ > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > <http://www.indiamar t.com/vedicastro logy/ > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>> > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, " Rohiniranjan " > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sunil ji, > > > > > > > > > > Scholarly post! Thanks for taking the time to write it. > > > > > > > > > > Obviously you have studied and researched this topic for sometime. > > > > > Would you like to comment on the two methods that are used in > > > > > calculating Gulika, the ending moment of saturn vs the starting > > > > > moment of the 'ownerless' part that follows... > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, " astro_tellerkerala " > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > > > > > dear member, > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology is a branch of study of space and time with > > > > > > indiviadual or national charts or purticular events based on > > > > > movment of > > > > > > celestial bodies at a given point of time.This moving planets > > > cause > > > > > some > > > > > > effect individualy and collectively and some times influencing > > > some > > > > > > points in chart.,and its derived by rishis or savants of yore > > > and > > > > > they > > > > > > hav calculated some points of influence which can be calculated > > > > > > mathematicaly and called each sons of nava grahas,If u can > > > remember > > > > > the > > > > > > chaya grahas like rahu and ketu also doesnot hav physical body > > > and > > > > > its > > > > > > mathematical points. > > > > > > > > > > > > The following r the 9 major sensitive points. > > > > > > > > > > > > The following r grahas and their upagrahas (or called sons of > > > this > > > > > > grahas) > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)sun-kaala 2)moon--paridhi 3)mars--dhooma 4)mercury- > > > > > ardhaprahara > > > > > > 5)jupiter-yamakanda 6)venus-kodanta( chapa) 7)rahu---patha > > > > > > 8)ketu-upaketu 9)sani---gulika > > > > > > > > > > > > there r other sensitive points also dhooma > > > > > > ,vyathipatha, parivesha, indrachapa, and ketu (differrent from > > > other > > > > > ketu) > > > > > > known as tertiary planets or aprakashita grhas. > > > > > > > > > > > > so gulika is considered like son of sani like mandi(son of > > > manda) > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > and most of the gr8 authors like parasara ,varahmihira > > > > > > ,kaalidasa,mandawya has discussed it ,though many of the > > > > > translations r > > > > > > not available in details or in hiding with parampara.(gupt) > > > > > > > > > > > > gulika is mostly used in kerala astrology for > > > jataka ,prashna ,deva > > > > > > prashna or muhurta. > > > > > > > > > > > > and also used in various calculations .for deciding death or > > > badhaka > > > > > > orblack magik or even pisacha badha > > > > > > > > > > > > some equated with 8th house significations like 64th navamsa > > > lord or > > > > > > 22nd drekkana lord or 8th lord itself if gulika is sitting > > > without > > > > > any > > > > > > saving grace. > > > > > > > > > > > > even some employ special dasa called gulika dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > also in ashtamangala prashna(very comprehensiv and elaborate > > > prashna > > > > > > done in joint families and royal families where they r 200 0r > > > more > > > > > > members) and deva prashna (temple prashna --for seeing wish of > > > god > > > > > > ,normaly conducted every 12th years or wenever find any un happy > > > > > > incidents). > > > > > > > > > > > > They arrive thrishputa,chatursp huta,panchasputa ,deha > > > sputa,mrityu > > > > > > sphuta,sookshma trisputa,mrityu chakra etc to delinate results. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some acharyas of the opinion that this gulika and mandi r same . > > > > > > > > > > > > Generaly gulika (actualy meaning is - a small tablet in > > > > > malayalam > > > > > > laungauge-remeber homeo medicinal tablet) is considered very > > > bad and > > > > > > sometimes equal to death to the signifiactions to the lords he > > > sit > > > > > with > > > > > > or he influence tru various ways,if sitting badly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even in rectifications of birth charts ,the old pandits in > > > > > kerala use > > > > > > it as they say without knowledge of gulika a delivery cannot > > > > > happen .It > > > > > > rises 2 times in a day ,one at day time and one at nite time . > > > > > > > > > > > > hope these information helps u. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.indiamar t.com/vedicastro logy/ > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > > > <http://www.indiamar t.com/vedicastro logy/ > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>> > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, " calerom2006 " > > > <calerom2006@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What it is Gulika in astrological terms and its meaning > > > inside of > > > > > the > > > > > > > natal chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Om krishna guru, dear marcelo, You are welcome to our group and wish u all the best in learning this science designed by vedic rishis for the welfare of human beings. regds sunil nair. http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> om shreem mahalaxmai namah. vedic astrology , " calerom2006 " <calerom2006 wrote: > > Respected astrologers Sunil Nair and Rohini Ranjan, and all: > > I am very grateful for yours to have given a well detailled > explanation regarding the Gulika. > My name is Marcelo, I entered in this group recently. Although I to > know and to have studied western astrology for seven years, still I am > a beginner in jyotish. > I hope to be able to learn more. > > Regards, > > Marcelo. > > > > > vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > Om krishna guru > > > > repested ranjanji, > > > > Yes total is 4 ghatikas (nadika in malyalm > --equal > > to 24 minits). > > > > It will increase or decrease according to dinamana (dat time ) or ratri > > mana (nite time ) and take proportaionate time . > > > > Since mathematical part ,now a days i am not using as ,i refer > > earleir .customers wants as if answers from a vending machine and now > > lot of progrmmes and panchangas availble .Only those who take appt and > > comes at proper time some times i use it and almost loosing its > > applications. > > > > And also they dont hav time even if we r ready to spend . > > > > yes ending part is 1/4 ghatikas will not be the influence as next > > kaala lord comes into actions . > > > > There is 2 kind of calculations one for gulikodaya and another for gulik > > kaala like our familiar rahu kaala > > > > hope it clears . > > > > respectfully sunil nair . > > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > I thought ghati was closer to 24 minutes, but unless I am > > > misinterpreting you, you treat is as a lot longer (1/4 ghati = 96 > > > minutes). Or did you mean the period starts 1/4th ghati before ending > > > (last six minutes) and extends for another 90 minutes? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > respected ranjan da, > > > > > > > > namaskars and pranams, > > > > > > > > My gurupadesam is last part of sani which will be correspond to > > > 1/4 > > > > ghatikas earlier,has a span of almost 96 minitsand depending on dina > > > > mana or ratri mana, and take gulika and mandi as one ,and its > > > followed > > > > by most of the traditions of kerala astrology. > > > > > > > > Though parasara,muhurtha chintha mani and all is said that > > > the > > > > 8th division is nireesa (no lord) prashna marga attributes it to > > > rahu.so > > > > end portion of sani is taken and sannyamso gulika: smrita:And > > > seperate > > > > calculation is for day and nite.Now a days no customers are > > > allowing to > > > > go for details and softwares r available and subtle calculations are > > > > ignored like other deriving sphutas and applications and chakras .. > > > > > > > > Even though 2 seperate calculations for mandi and gulika is > > > > available,when ennumerating results these differrence disappears .. > > > > > > > > sri sanjayji has a differrent opinion and he use each seperately > > > and > > > > derive results of karma phala or from satru dosh (from others > > > > )depending on gulika or maandi. > > > > > > > > This is my humble opinions . > > > > > > > > seniors and gurus ,pls correct me . > > > > > > > > respectfully sunil nair > > > > > > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > > > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sunil ji, > > > > > > > > > > Scholarly post! Thanks for taking the time to write it. > > > > > > > > > > Obviously you have studied and researched this topic for sometime. > > > > > Would you like to comment on the two methods that are used in > > > > > calculating Gulika, the ending moment of saturn vs the starting > > > > > moment of the 'ownerless' part that follows... > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " astro_tellerkerala " > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > > > > > dear member, > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology is a branch of study of space and time with > > > > > > indiviadual or national charts or purticular events based on > > > > > movment of > > > > > > celestial bodies at a given point of time.This moving planets > > > cause > > > > > some > > > > > > effect individualy and collectively and some times influencing > > > some > > > > > > points in chart.,and its derived by rishis or savants of yore > > > and > > > > > they > > > > > > hav calculated some points of influence which can be calculated > > > > > > mathematicaly and called each sons of nava grahas,If u can > > > remember > > > > > the > > > > > > chaya grahas like rahu and ketu also doesnot hav physical body > > > and > > > > > its > > > > > > mathematical points. > > > > > > > > > > > > The following r the 9 major sensitive points. > > > > > > > > > > > > The following r grahas and their upagrahas (or called sons of > > > this > > > > > > grahas) > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)sun-kaala 2)moon--paridhi 3)mars--dhooma 4)mercury- > > > > > ardhaprahara > > > > > > 5)jupiter-yamakanda 6)venus-kodanta(chapa) 7)rahu---patha > > > > > > 8)ketu-upaketu 9)sani---gulika > > > > > > > > > > > > there r other sensitive points also dhooma > > > > > > ,vyathipatha,parivesha,indrachapa,and ketu (differrent from > > > other > > > > > ketu) > > > > > > known as tertiary planets or aprakashita grhas. > > > > > > > > > > > > so gulika is considered like son of sani like mandi(son of > > > manda) > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > and most of the gr8 authors like parasara ,varahmihira > > > > > > ,kaalidasa,mandawya has discussed it ,though many of the > > > > > translations r > > > > > > not available in details or in hiding with parampara.(gupt) > > > > > > > > > > > > gulika is mostly used in kerala astrology for > > > jataka ,prashna ,deva > > > > > > prashna or muhurta. > > > > > > > > > > > > and also used in various calculations .for deciding death or > > > badhaka > > > > > > orblack magik or even pisacha badha > > > > > > > > > > > > some equated with 8th house significations like 64th navamsa > > > lord or > > > > > > 22nd drekkana lord or 8th lord itself if gulika is sitting > > > without > > > > > any > > > > > > saving grace. > > > > > > > > > > > > even some employ special dasa called gulika dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > also in ashtamangala prashna(very comprehensiv and elaborate > > > prashna > > > > > > done in joint families and royal families where they r 200 0r > > > more > > > > > > members) and deva prashna (temple prashna --for seeing wish of > > > god > > > > > > ,normaly conducted every 12th years or wenever find any un happy > > > > > > incidents). > > > > > > > > > > > > They arrive thrishputa,chatursphuta,panchasputa,deha > > > sputa,mrityu > > > > > > sphuta,sookshma trisputa,mrityu chakra etc to delinate results. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some acharyas of the opinion that this gulika and mandi r same . > > > > > > > > > > > > Generaly gulika (actualy meaning is - a small tablet in > > > > > malayalam > > > > > > laungauge-remeber homeo medicinal tablet) is considered very > > > bad and > > > > > > sometimes equal to death to the signifiactions to the lords he > > > sit > > > > > with > > > > > > or he influence tru various ways,if sitting badly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even in rectifications of birth charts ,the old pandits in > > > > > kerala use > > > > > > it as they say without knowledge of gulika a delivery cannot > > > > > happen .It > > > > > > rises 2 times in a day ,one at day time and one at nite time .. > > > > > > > > > > > > hope these information helps u. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > > > > > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " calerom2006 " > > > <calerom2006@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What it is Gulika in astrological terms and its meaning > > > inside of > > > > > the > > > > > > > natal chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 om krishna guru, respected rafal guruji, Thanks ,and its ur greatness u say so. with regds and respect sunil nair. om shreem mahalaxmai namah. vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Sunil Nair, > > Yes..our Sunil gave us beatiful lecture. Thank You. > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa.com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > calerom2006 napisa?(a): > > > > Respected astrologers Sunil Nair and Rohini Ranjan, and all: > > > > I am very grateful for yours to have given a well detailled > > explanation regarding the Gulika. > > My name is Marcelo, I entered in this group recently. Although I to > > know and to have studied western astrology for seven years, still I am > > a beginner in jyotish. > > I hope to be able to learn more. > > > > Regards, > > > > Marcelo. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, " astro_tellerkerala " > > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > Om krishna guru > > > > > > repested ranjanji, > > > > > > Yes total is 4 ghatikas (nadika in malyalm > > --equal > > > to 24 minits). > > > > > > It will increase or decrease according to dinamana (dat time ) or ratri > > > mana (nite time ) and take proportaionate time . > > > > > > Since mathematical part ,now a days i am not using as ,i refer > > > earleir .customers wants as if answers from a vending machine and now > > > lot of progrmmes and panchangas availble .Only those who take appt and > > > comes at proper time some times i use it and almost loosing its > > > applications. > > > > > > And also they dont hav time even if we r ready to spend . > > > > > > yes ending part is 1/4 ghatikas will not be the influence as next > > > kaala lord comes into actions . > > > > > > There is 2 kind of calculations one for gulikodaya and another for gulik > > > kaala like our familiar rahu kaala > > > > > > hope it clears . > > > > > > respectfully sunil nair . > > > > > > http://www.indiamar t.com/vedicastro logy/ > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > <http://www.indiamar t.com/vedicastro logy/ > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>> > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, " Rohiniranjan " > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > I thought ghati was closer to 24 minutes, but unless I am > > > > misinterpreting you, you treat is as a lot longer (1/4 ghati = 96 > > > > minutes). Or did you mean the period starts 1/4th ghati before ending > > > > (last six minutes) and extends for another 90 minutes? > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, " astro_tellerkerala " > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > > > respected ranjan da, > > > > > > > > > > namaskars and pranams, > > > > > > > > > > My gurupadesam is last part of sani which will be correspond to > > > > 1/4 > > > > > ghatikas earlier,has a span of almost 96 minitsand depending on dina > > > > > mana or ratri mana, and take gulika and mandi as one ,and its > > > > followed > > > > > by most of the traditions of kerala astrology. > > > > > > > > > > Though parasara,muhurtha chintha mani and all is said that > > > > the > > > > > 8th division is nireesa (no lord) prashna marga attributes it to > > > > rahu.so > > > > > end portion of sani is taken and sannyamso gulika: smrita:And > > > > seperate > > > > > calculation is for day and nite.Now a days no customers are > > > > allowing to > > > > > go for details and softwares r available and subtle calculations are > > > > > ignored like other deriving sphutas and applications and chakras . > > > > > > > > > > Even though 2 seperate calculations for mandi and gulika is > > > > > available,when ennumerating results these differrence disappears . > > > > > > > > > > sri sanjayji has a differrent opinion and he use each seperately > > > > and > > > > > derive results of karma phala or from satru dosh (from others > > > > > )depending on gulika or maandi. > > > > > > > > > > This is my humble opinions . > > > > > > > > > > seniors and gurus ,pls correct me . > > > > > > > > > > respectfully sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > http://www.indiamar t.com/vedicastro logy/ > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > > <http://www.indiamar t.com/vedicastro logy/ > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>> > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, " Rohiniranjan " > > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Scholarly post! Thanks for taking the time to write it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously you have studied and researched this topic for sometime. > > > > > > Would you like to comment on the two methods that are used in > > > > > > calculating Gulika, the ending moment of saturn vs the starting > > > > > > moment of the 'ownerless' part that follows... > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, " astro_tellerkerala " > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear member, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology is a branch of study of space and time with > > > > > > > indiviadual or national charts or purticular events based on > > > > > > movment of > > > > > > > celestial bodies at a given point of time.This moving planets > > > > cause > > > > > > some > > > > > > > effect individualy and collectively and some times influencing > > > > some > > > > > > > points in chart.,and its derived by rishis or savants of yore > > > > and > > > > > > they > > > > > > > hav calculated some points of influence which can be calculated > > > > > > > mathematicaly and called each sons of nava grahas,If u can > > > > remember > > > > > > the > > > > > > > chaya grahas like rahu and ketu also doesnot hav physical body > > > > and > > > > > > its > > > > > > > mathematical points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following r the 9 major sensitive points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following r grahas and their upagrahas (or called sons of > > > > this > > > > > > > grahas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)sun-kaala 2)moon--paridhi 3)mars--dhooma 4)mercury- > > > > > > ardhaprahara > > > > > > > 5)jupiter-yamakanda 6)venus-kodanta( chapa) 7)rahu---patha > > > > > > > 8)ketu-upaketu 9)sani---gulika > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there r other sensitive points also dhooma > > > > > > > ,vyathipatha, parivesha, indrachapa, and ketu (differrent from > > > > other > > > > > > ketu) > > > > > > > known as tertiary planets or aprakashita grhas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so gulika is considered like son of sani like mandi(son of > > > > manda) > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and most of the gr8 authors like parasara ,varahmihira > > > > > > > ,kaalidasa,mandawya has discussed it ,though many of the > > > > > > translations r > > > > > > > not available in details or in hiding with parampara.(gupt) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gulika is mostly used in kerala astrology for > > > > jataka ,prashna ,deva > > > > > > > prashna or muhurta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and also used in various calculations .for deciding death or > > > > badhaka > > > > > > > orblack magik or even pisacha badha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some equated with 8th house significations like 64th navamsa > > > > lord or > > > > > > > 22nd drekkana lord or 8th lord itself if gulika is sitting > > > > without > > > > > > any > > > > > > > saving grace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even some employ special dasa called gulika dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also in ashtamangala prashna(very comprehensiv and elaborate > > > > prashna > > > > > > > done in joint families and royal families where they r 200 0r > > > > more > > > > > > > members) and deva prashna (temple prashna --for seeing wish of > > > > god > > > > > > > ,normaly conducted every 12th years or wenever find any un happy > > > > > > > incidents). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They arrive thrishputa,chatursp huta,panchasputa ,deha > > > > sputa,mrityu > > > > > > > sphuta,sookshma trisputa,mrityu chakra etc to delinate results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some acharyas of the opinion that this gulika and mandi r same . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Generaly gulika (actualy meaning is - a small tablet in > > > > > > malayalam > > > > > > > laungauge-remeber homeo medicinal tablet) is considered very > > > > bad and > > > > > > > sometimes equal to death to the signifiactions to the lords he > > > > sit > > > > > > with > > > > > > > or he influence tru various ways,if sitting badly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even in rectifications of birth charts ,the old pandits in > > > > > > kerala use > > > > > > > it as they say without knowledge of gulika a delivery cannot > > > > > > happen .It > > > > > > > rises 2 times in a day ,one at day time and one at nite time . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope these information helps u. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.indiamar t.com/vedicastro logy/ > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > > > > > > > <http://www.indiamar t.com/vedicastro logy/ > > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, " calerom2006 " > > > > <calerom2006@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What it is Gulika in astrological terms and its meaning > > > > inside of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > natal chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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