Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 In natal chart too much of importance is given to kemdrum yoga,in my small time of studying astrology i have come across many charts with kemdrum yoga & all of them had good job & equally good amount of money.Can some one tell me why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Dear Swamy, As you would recall (I'm sure) there was a time when I was totally opposed to interpreting yogas (in any way), due to their misuse by modern day gurus. I always maintained that a thorough understanding of the basic principles, applied to the chart as a whole, was the best approach... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar <jyotish-vidya > Monday, June 11, 2007 12:49 PM Re: kemdrum yoga Dear Mrs. Wendy, I am of the view that the rules mentioned in the classics are to be applied liberally not literally. We should understand the importance given to the kendras in classics while considering the yogas. Be it Kemadruma or be it Gaja Kesari. That is the important thing. The importance given by classics is mainly to kendras. Results are attributed to the yogas to emphasize this idea accordingly. Any yoga is a single unit and a part which makes the chart under consideration complete but not the whole of it. See the chart under consideration. Rudyard was known to be conservative and having old ideas. Why? Saturn is the answer. Consider Saturn either from Lagna or from Moon. He rules the 9th house and he influences five planets. That is the simple answer why he possessed those traditional ideas. Rudyard enjoyed those planets dasha starting from Moon. When you consider the planets in 7th house from Lagna, there are number of other yogas getting formed and those conjunctions are blessed by the 9th Lord. Simply because an adverse yoga is available in a chart and certain results are attributed to that particular yoga does not mean an astrologer should pronounce the results. One should see what other yogas are formed in the chart. The yogas are certainly subservient to dashas with certain exceptions. He enjoyed the dasha of Moon in his early part of life. So far as his separation from his birth place and mother and his being unhappy at that time can be very well be justified if one see the D-4 taking the dahsa under consideration. Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Respected Mam, You have quite rightly pointed that a wholistic approach is required in interpretation. One single yoga will not not in anyway describe a person completely. There could others aspects in the chart uplifting the person. The modern day books have not so well described this yoga, and they do leave a different impression to the reader. It would be interesting to note that Mahatma Gandhi too had Kemadruma Yoga. But his stature is well known to everyone. As per KY, it does give a lot of hardships to the person, but he could also be elevated attributed to other elements in the chart. Since the KY surrounds the moon, I suppose it revolves the mind primarily and since moon is described as being fickle, it needs a string attached to let it hold its ground(Pls correct me if I'm wrong here!). And therefore the reference to sunapha and anapha yoga. I have been closely associated with a person with this yoga and therefore can see a difference in what people say and what actually it is in reality. KY has definitely been hyped in the present times. Over to your inputs.. Best Regards, Sripathi --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Swamy, > > As you would recall (I'm sure) there was a time when > I was totally opposed > to interpreting yogas (in any way), due to their > misuse by modern day gurus. > I always maintained that a thorough understanding of > the basic principles, > applied to the chart as a whole, was the best > approach... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " muthukumaraswamydesigar " > <muthukumaraswamydesigar > <jyotish-vidya > > Monday, June 11, 2007 12:49 PM > Re: kemdrum yoga > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > I am of the view that the rules mentioned in the > classics are to be > applied liberally not literally. We should > understand the importance > given to the kendras in classics while considering > the yogas. Be it > Kemadruma or be it Gaja Kesari. That is the > important thing. The > importance given by classics is mainly to kendras. > Results are > attributed to the yogas to emphasize this idea > accordingly. Any yoga > is a single unit and a part which makes the chart > under consideration > complete but not the whole of it. > > See the chart under consideration. Rudyard was > known to be > conservative and having old ideas. Why? Saturn is > the answer. > Consider Saturn either from Lagna or from Moon. He > rules the 9th > house and he influences five planets. That is the > simple answer why > he possessed those traditional ideas. Rudyard > enjoyed those planets > dasha starting from Moon. > > When you consider the planets in 7th house from > Lagna, there are > number of other yogas getting formed and those > conjunctions are > blessed by the 9th Lord. > > Simply because an adverse yoga is available in a > chart and certain > results are attributed to that particular yoga does > not mean an > astrologer should pronounce the results. One should > see what other > yogas are formed in the chart. > > The yogas are certainly subservient to dashas with > certain > exceptions. He enjoyed the dasha of Moon in his > early part of life. > So far as his separation from his birth place and > mother and his > being unhappy at that time can be very well be > justified if one see > the D-4 taking the dahsa under consideration. > > Swamy. > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=summer+activities+for+kids & cs=bz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Dear Mrs. Wendy, Yes. I remember. First one should understand the basic principles and their exceptions well, in applying them in actual charts. Swamy. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Swamy, > > As you would recall (I'm sure) there was a time when I was totally opposed > to interpreting yogas (in any way), due to their misuse by modern day gurus. > I always maintained that a thorough understanding of the basic principles, > applied to the chart as a whole, was the best approach... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar > <jyotish-vidya > > Monday, June 11, 2007 12:49 PM > Re: kemdrum yoga > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > I am of the view that the rules mentioned in the classics are to be > applied liberally not literally. We should understand the importance > given to the kendras in classics while considering the yogas. Be it > Kemadruma or be it Gaja Kesari. That is the important thing. The > importance given by classics is mainly to kendras. Results are > attributed to the yogas to emphasize this idea accordingly. Any yoga > is a single unit and a part which makes the chart under consideration > complete but not the whole of it. > > See the chart under consideration. Rudyard was known to be > conservative and having old ideas. Why? Saturn is the answer. > Consider Saturn either from Lagna or from Moon. He rules the 9th > house and he influences five planets. That is the simple answer why > he possessed those traditional ideas. Rudyard enjoyed those planets > dasha starting from Moon. > > When you consider the planets in 7th house from Lagna, there are > number of other yogas getting formed and those conjunctions are > blessed by the 9th Lord. > > Simply because an adverse yoga is available in a chart and certain > results are attributed to that particular yoga does not mean an > astrologer should pronounce the results. One should see what other > yogas are formed in the chart. > > The yogas are certainly subservient to dashas with certain > exceptions. He enjoyed the dasha of Moon in his early part of life. > So far as his separation from his birth place and mother and his > being unhappy at that time can be very well be justified if one see > the D-4 taking the dahsa under consideration. > > Swamy. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Dear Sripathi and All, //It would be interesting to note that Mahatma Gandhi too had Kemadruma Yoga. But his stature is well known to everyone.// Would this apply with Moon conjunct Rahu?? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Sreepathi Tantri K " <mailsreeps <jyotish-vidya > Monday, June 11, 2007 2:32 PM Re: Re: kemdrum yoga Respected Mam, You have quite rightly pointed that a wholistic approach is required in interpretation. One single yoga will not not in anyway describe a person completely. There could others aspects in the chart uplifting the person. The modern day books have not so well described this yoga, and they do leave a different impression to the reader. It would be interesting to note that Mahatma Gandhi too had Kemadruma Yoga. But his stature is well known to everyone. As per KY, it does give a lot of hardships to the person, but he could also be elevated attributed to other elements in the chart. Since the KY surrounds the moon, I suppose it revolves the mind primarily and since moon is described as being fickle, it needs a string attached to let it hold its ground(Pls correct me if I'm wrong here!). And therefore the reference to sunapha and anapha yoga. I have been closely associated with a person with this yoga and therefore can see a difference in what people say and what actually it is in reality. KY has definitely been hyped in the present times. Over to your inputs.. Best Regards, Sripathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Respected Mam, In Gandhiji's chart, Moon itself is in Kendra(4th) and further as a requisite for cancellation/neutralizing KY; as it is said that there be a planet in a kendra from moon, Jupiter is in a powerful kendra(10th) from the moon. Thereby neutralising the KY. Frankly, I would be very keen to know the impact of moon's conjunction with Rahu. Could you shed some light on this? Best Regards, Sripathi --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Sripathi and All, > > //It would be interesting to note that Mahatma > Gandhi > too had Kemadruma Yoga. But his stature is well > known > to everyone.// > > Would this apply with Moon conjunct Rahu?? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Sreepathi Tantri K " <mailsreeps > <jyotish-vidya > > Monday, June 11, 2007 2:32 PM > Re: Re: kemdrum yoga > > > Respected Mam, > > You have quite rightly pointed that a wholistic > approach is required in interpretation. One single > yoga will not not in anyway describe a person > completely. There could others aspects in the chart > uplifting the person. The modern day books have not > so > well described this yoga, and they do leave a > different impression to the reader. > > It would be interesting to note that Mahatma Gandhi > too had Kemadruma Yoga. But his stature is well > known > to everyone. > > As per KY, it does give a lot of hardships to the > person, but he could also be elevated attributed to > other elements in the chart. > > Since the KY surrounds the moon, I suppose it > revolves > the mind primarily and since moon is described as > being fickle, it needs a string attached to let it > hold its ground(Pls correct me if I'm wrong here!). > And therefore the reference to sunapha and anapha > yoga. I have been closely associated with a person > with this yoga and therefore can see a difference in > what people say and what actually it is in reality. > KY > has definitely been hyped in the present times. > > Over to your inputs.. > > Best Regards, > Sripathi > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Respected All, My sincere apologies. W.r.t my previous mail regarding KY, Moon is in tenth for Gandhiji. I had mentioned fourth!!. Best Regards, Sripathi --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Sripathi and All, > > //It would be interesting to note that Mahatma > Gandhi > too had Kemadruma Yoga. But his stature is well > known > to everyone.// > > Would this apply with Moon conjunct Rahu?? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Sreepathi Tantri K " <mailsreeps > <jyotish-vidya > > Monday, June 11, 2007 2:32 PM > Re: Re: kemdrum yoga > > > Respected Mam, > > You have quite rightly pointed that a wholistic > approach is required in interpretation. One single > yoga will not not in anyway describe a person > completely. There could others aspects in the chart > uplifting the person. The modern day books have not > so > well described this yoga, and they do leave a > different impression to the reader. > > It would be interesting to note that Mahatma Gandhi > too had Kemadruma Yoga. But his stature is well > known > to everyone. > > As per KY, it does give a lot of hardships to the > person, but he could also be elevated attributed to > other elements in the chart. > > Since the KY surrounds the moon, I suppose it > revolves > the mind primarily and since moon is described as > being fickle, it needs a string attached to let it > hold its ground(Pls correct me if I'm wrong here!). > And therefore the reference to sunapha and anapha > yoga. I have been closely associated with a person > with this yoga and therefore can see a difference in > what people say and what actually it is in reality. > KY > has definitely been hyped in the present times. > > Over to your inputs.. > > Best Regards, > Sripathi > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. http://sims./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Dear Sripathi, Due to Moon's placement in 10th, Gandhi has planets in kendra from both Lagna (and) Moon...all bases covered, so to speak :-) ///Frankly, I would be very keen to know the impact of moon's conjunction with Rahu./// We've spoken at length (on this list) about Rahu's ability to propel one towards name and fame when connected with 10th house. Some examples we've spoken of are: 1) B.V. Raman with Rahu's dispositor (Jupiter) in 10th. 2) K.N. Rao with Rahu's dispositor (Jupiter) exalted in 10th. 3) Mahatma Gandhi with 10th lord Moon conjunct Rahu in 10th. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Sreepathi Tantri K " <mailsreeps <jyotish-vidya > Monday, June 11, 2007 6:53 PM Re: Re: kemdrum yoga Respected Mam, In Gandhiji's chart, Moon itself is in Kendra(4th) and further as a requisite for cancellation/neutralizing KY; as it is said that there be a planet in a kendra from moon, Jupiter is in a powerful kendra(10th) from the moon. Thereby neutralising the KY. Frankly, I would be very keen to know the impact of moon's conjunction with Rahu. Could you shed some light on this? Best Regards, Sripathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Respected Mam, Off the current subject in discussion, since Rahu came into picture. . which is the true swakshetra of Rahu and Ketu? Is it Virgo and Pisces? Or is it Aquarius and Scorpio, given the dictum " shanivad rahu evam kujavad ketu " . whatever be the case, would Rahu and ketu in own house behave differently? Best Regards, Sripathi --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > Dear Sripathi, > > Due to Moon's placement in 10th, Gandhi has planets > in kendra from both > Lagna (and) Moon...all bases covered, so to speak > :-) > > ///Frankly, I would be very keen to know the impact > of > moon's conjunction with Rahu./// > > We've spoken at length (on this list) about Rahu's > ability to propel one > towards name and fame when connected with 10th > house. Some examples we've > spoken of are: > > 1) B.V. Raman with Rahu's dispositor (Jupiter) in > 10th. > 2) K.N. Rao with Rahu's dispositor (Jupiter) exalted > in 10th. > 3) Mahatma Gandhi with 10th lord Moon conjunct Rahu > in 10th. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " Sreepathi Tantri K " <mailsreeps > <jyotish-vidya > > Monday, June 11, 2007 6:53 PM > Re: Re: kemdrum yoga > > > Respected Mam, > > In Gandhiji's chart, Moon itself is in Kendra(4th) > and > further as a requisite for cancellation/neutralizing > KY; as it is said that there be a planet in a kendra > from moon, Jupiter is in a powerful kendra(10th) > from > the moon. Thereby neutralising the KY. > > Frankly, I would be very keen to know the impact of > moon's conjunction with Rahu. > > Could you shed some light on this? > > Best Regards, > Sripathi > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit. http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Dear Sripathi, According to Parashara, Rahu has Aquarius as swakshetra whilst Ketu has Scorpio. I follow this rule, which BTW confirms the dictum that Rahu is akin to Saturn and Ketu is akin to Mars. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Sreepathi Tantri K " <mailsreeps <jyotish-vidya > Monday, June 11, 2007 9:07 PM Re: Re: kemdrum yoga Respected Mam, Off the current subject in discussion, since Rahu came into picture. . which is the true swakshetra of Rahu and Ketu? Is it Virgo and Pisces? Or is it Aquarius and Scorpio, given the dictum " shanivad rahu evam kujavad ketu " . whatever be the case, would Rahu and ketu in own house behave differently? Best Regards, Sripathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 no they are not poor by wealth. regards. sanjay rathod " bina.vyas " <bina.vyas wrote: Dear Wendy, Respected Swamy, One unusual thought has come to my mind.Please share your views. All Marines & Land solders who remain away from their loved ones,(i call this isolation ) fight war & many times they become depressed looking at disasters created by themselves. Due to this they go in sever depression. Will most of this solders or some of them have KEMDRUM YOGA? jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Swamy, > > ///It is absolutely right that yogas are the important area in Hindu > Astrology./// > > I certainly agree with this! What I question is their (all too often) > erroneous application which occurs, in my opinion, due to ignorance of the > fundamental principles. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar > <jyotish-vidya > > Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:11 AM > Re: kemdrum yoga > > > Dear Vyas, > > I agree with you to the extent that nothing goes unmanifested. It is > absolutely right that yogas are the important area in Hindu > Astrology. There is no doubt that one should consider the existence > of a yoga and then its cancellation. Even a yoga is gets cancelled, > certainly there exists some inherent weakness in a particular area.. > The question is how strong the manifestation is or would be? The > point is that one should not press the panic button unnecessarily. > There are more than 10 conditions attached to this yoga for its > cancellation. Hence in most of the charts, in one way or the other, > the yoga gets cancelled. The main idea is that the student should in > first place know all exceptions before pronouncing the results for a > combination. > > See the dispositor of Moon in rashi chart. See the position of Moon > in Navamsa. Note the Navamsa dispositor of Moon and his condition. > If they are in a good position, much of the intensity of the results > attributed to this yoga is minimized. At what age one is going to > enjoy the dasha of Moon. > > The results which are more practical in a day to day life of > unsupported Moon in a chart are irritation, frustration in mild form > and depression in a severe case. When it happens? It happens > when the transit Moon goes to 8th from the radical Moon. Malefic > transits like Astama Sani or Kantaka Sani or Sade-Sathi then one feel > himself or herself being isolated. > > Swamy. > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Dear Bina Vyas, We should distinguish between emotional and physical isolation/separation. We should also consider Moon's lordship and house position before speculating on possible results. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " bina.vyas " <bina.vyas <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:46 PM Re: kemdrum yoga Dear Wendy, Respected Swamy, One unusual thought has come to my mind.Please share your views. All Marines & Land solders who remain away from their loved ones,(i call this isolation ) fight war & many times they become depressed looking at disasters created by themselves. Due to this they go in sever depression. Will most of this solders or some of them have KEMDRUM YOGA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 They do not have kemyoga sure. sanjay sanjay sanjay <sanaloe64 wrote: no they are not poor by wealth. regards. sanjay rathod " bina.vyas " <bina.vyas wrote: Dear Wendy, Respected Swamy, One unusual thought has come to my mind.Please share your views. All Marines & Land solders who remain away from their loved ones,(i call this isolation ) fight war & many times they become depressed looking at disasters created by themselves. Due to this they go in sever depression. Will most of this solders or some of them have KEMDRUM YOGA? jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Swamy, > > ///It is absolutely right that yogas are the important area in Hindu > Astrology./// > > I certainly agree with this! What I question is their (all too often) > erroneous application which occurs, in my opinion, due to ignorance of the > fundamental principles. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar > <jyotish-vidya > > Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:11 AM > Re: kemdrum yoga > > > Dear Vyas, > > I agree with you to the extent that nothing goes unmanifested. It is > absolutely right that yogas are the important area in Hindu > Astrology. There is no doubt that one should consider the existence > of a yoga and then its cancellation. Even a yoga is gets cancelled, > certainly there exists some inherent weakness in a particular area.. > The question is how strong the manifestation is or would be? The > point is that one should not press the panic button unnecessarily. > There are more than 10 conditions attached to this yoga for its > cancellation. Hence in most of the charts, in one way or the other, > the yoga gets cancelled. The main idea is that the student should in > first place know all exceptions before pronouncing the results for a > combination. > > See the dispositor of Moon in rashi chart. See the position of Moon > in Navamsa. Note the Navamsa dispositor of Moon and his condition. > If they are in a good position, much of the intensity of the results > attributed to this yoga is minimized. At what age one is going to > enjoy the dasha of Moon. > > The results which are more practical in a day to day life of > unsupported Moon in a chart are irritation, frustration in mild form > and depression in a severe case. When it happens? It happens > when the transit Moon goes to 8th from the radical Moon. Malefic > transits like Astama Sani or Kantaka Sani or Sade-Sathi then one feel > himself or herself being isolated. > > Swamy. > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Dear Wendy ji, Sorry for the delay in replying as i was busy with office work. Ok here it is yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = income or less. I have got this kemdrum yog , and my moon is in the 8th house with nothing before and after the moon. At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we had an affair for 4 -5 years , In this four to five years , i spent everything i had , and also my family had .Secondly ,i had not finished my education so did not get a job.Ihad started business but every deal i do , would give me money , but on the other hand i would have expenses more then the income. When my affair ended( Very badly) , and when i sat and saw back ,i felt , i have nothing , noo money , no degree, and no saving . Had lost everything . There was a time when we had no money in our house , and no food too. But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by gods help , one of my business client and my mom's brother sponsered me to do my higher study in Australia.Even when i came to australia , i had no money except for eating and travelling , and uni fees. But time passed and one things was that i was able to clear my bank loan which i had to take from the bank to come to Australia. Even today there is debts for me to clear . No matter how much work i do , in the end i have debts to pay. I have seen a lot of people get some stable strong income which last for 20 -30 years ,which make them stable and self sufficient. I wonder thoughs people are luck atleast they dont have to worrry Pls feel free to ask question , i would shurely answer it Thanking you Prashu On 6/12/07, Wendy Vasicek <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Prashu, > > It would be good to share your experience with the group :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/> > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > - > " Prashant Doshi " <prashuastro <prashuastro%40gmail.com>> > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:27 AM > Re: Re: kemdrum yoga > > Dear Group Members, > > Here is my chart , I have kemdrum yoga , If u want to known my > experience i can share.I also have rahu in the 11th in jup nakshatra > > 10TH MARCH 1974 > bOMBAY > 06:30AM > > Prashu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Prashant ji, Though your mail is addressed to Wendy ji, I thought I would have a look--after all, you are almost exactly one year my junior! :-) On a more serious front, I do not believe much in yogas--I think that an understanding of the significances of grahas and their house lordship is more important than looking at yogas. ///yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = income or less./// The lord of the 2nd is in the 12th from the 2nd in Rahu's star. The 2nd and the 11th are afflicted by the aspect of Sani, the lord of the 12th. The lord of the 9th house of luck is in the 12th, in the star of 6th lord Chandra. ///But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by gods help , one of my business client and my mom's brother sponsered me to do my higher study in Australia./// This is indicated by the presence of 9th lord [higher education/long distance travel] Sukra in the 12th [stay abroad]. Sukra's presence in star of 6th lord would have implied that you would have had to struggle. But the 6th also rules maternal uncle, and the lord of the 6th is in own star in the 8th [overseas journeys]. ///At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we had an affair for 4 -5 years/// You broke up when you were around 29, right? This would have been around 2003, when Rahu's MD ended, right? Rahu takes away what he gives. In your chart, he is in the star of Ketu, aspected by 12th lord Sani. I am sure that some of the problems you have faced--especially those relating to loneliness and isolation--can be traced back to Kemadruma Yoga. But, in the main, as can be seen, a lot of other factors too have had a hand. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ ______________________________\ ____ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Dear Balaji, Yogas have been made by the same persons who have given us Lordships of houses and their significances. So we should believe in them. You should search for the reason of the Yoga not manisfesting in the life of the native, in your own self, as a astrologer,rather than, not believeing in Yogas. If you are open minded I can tell you the reason why they do not work,at times, though apparently they should. Another point, postmartem on dead bodies is possible by any doctor, but to forecast what can happen to the native in future is, a feat which is a pre-requisite of a astrologer. To connect a past event with astrological pointers is an easy task, but to predict for future, is, what is required. that comes by experience of years. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: > > Prashant ji, > > Though your mail is addressed to Wendy ji, I thought I > would have a look--after all, you are almost exactly > one year my junior! :-) > > On a more serious front, I do not believe much in > yogas--I think that an understanding of the > significances of grahas and their house lordship is > more important than looking at yogas. > > ///yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my > house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = > income or less./// > > The lord of the 2nd is in the 12th from the 2nd in > Rahu's star. The 2nd and the 11th are afflicted by the > aspect of Sani, the lord of the 12th. The lord of the > 9th house of luck is in the 12th, in the star of 6th > lord Chandra. > > ///But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , > made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by > gods help , one of my business client and my mom's > brother sponsered me to do my higher study in > Australia./// > > This is indicated by the presence of 9th lord [higher > education/long distance travel] Sukra in the 12th > [stay abroad]. Sukra's presence in star of 6th lord > would have implied that you would have had to > struggle. But the 6th also rules maternal uncle, and > the lord of the 6th is in own star in the 8th > [overseas journeys]. > > ///At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we > had an affair for 4 -5 years/// > > You broke up when you were around 29, right? This > would have been around 2003, when Rahu's MD ended, > right? Rahu takes away what he gives. In your chart, > he is in the star of Ketu, aspected by 12th lord Sani. > > I am sure that some of the problems you have > faced--especially those relating to loneliness and > isolation--can be traced back to Kemadruma Yoga. But, > in the main, as can be seen, a lot of other factors > too have had a hand. > > ~~~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan > Author & Editor > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Dear balaji, Rahu takes away what it gives. What is the autheticity of this statement ? I mean the classical authenticity and not individual opinion. I am running Rahu Mahadasha and it has given me good. Such statements scare me and would scare others. Please explain with quotes from classics. regards, Bhaskar. -- In jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Balaji, > > Yogas have been made by the same persons who have given us > Lordships of houses and their significances. So we should > believe in them. You should search for the reason of the Yoga > not manisfesting in the life of the native, in your own self, > as a astrologer,rather than, not believeing in Yogas. > > If you are open minded I can tell you the reason why they do > not work,at times, though apparently they should. > > Another point, postmartem on dead bodies is possible by any > doctor, but to forecast what can happen to the native in future > is, a feat which is a pre-requisite of a astrologer. > To connect a past event with astrological pointers is an easy > task, but to predict for future, is, > what is required. > > that comes by experience of years. > > regards, > Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , Balaji Narasimhan > <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > Prashant ji, > > > > Though your mail is addressed to Wendy ji, I thought I > > would have a look--after all, you are almost exactly > > one year my junior! :-) > > > > On a more serious front, I do not believe much in > > yogas--I think that an understanding of the > > significances of grahas and their house lordship is > > more important than looking at yogas. > > > > ///yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my > > house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = > > income or less./// > > > > The lord of the 2nd is in the 12th from the 2nd in > > Rahu's star. The 2nd and the 11th are afflicted by the > > aspect of Sani, the lord of the 12th. The lord of the > > 9th house of luck is in the 12th, in the star of 6th > > lord Chandra. > > > > ///But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , > > made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by > > gods help , one of my business client and my mom's > > brother sponsered me to do my higher study in > > Australia./// > > > > This is indicated by the presence of 9th lord [higher > > education/long distance travel] Sukra in the 12th > > [stay abroad]. Sukra's presence in star of 6th lord > > would have implied that you would have had to > > struggle. But the 6th also rules maternal uncle, and > > the lord of the 6th is in own star in the 8th > > [overseas journeys]. > > > > ///At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we > > had an affair for 4 -5 years/// > > > > You broke up when you were around 29, right? This > > would have been around 2003, when Rahu's MD ended, > > right? Rahu takes away what he gives. In your chart, > > he is in the star of Ketu, aspected by 12th lord Sani. > > > > I am sure that some of the problems you have > > faced--especially those relating to loneliness and > > isolation--can be traced back to Kemadruma Yoga. But, > > in the main, as can be seen, a lot of other factors > > too have had a hand. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > Balaji Narasimhan > > Author & Editor > > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, Would you please share your experience/chart in more details? Placement and aspects of Rahu are also very important. How was the previous, Mars MD? Regards, Anna Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear balaji, Rahu takes away what it gives. What is the autheticity of this statement ? I mean the classical authenticity and not individual opinion. I am running Rahu Mahadasha and it has given me good. Such statements scare me and would scare others. Please explain with quotes from classics. regards, Bhaskar. -- In jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Balaji, > > Yogas have been made by the same persons who have given us > Lordships of houses and their significances. So we should > believe in them. You should search for the reason of the Yoga > not manisfesting in the life of the native, in your own self, > as a astrologer,rather than, not believeing in Yogas. > > If you are open minded I can tell you the reason why they do > not work,at times, though apparently they should. > > Another point, postmartem on dead bodies is possible by any > doctor, but to forecast what can happen to the native in future > is, a feat which is a pre-requisite of a astrologer. > To connect a past event with astrological pointers is an easy > task, but to predict for future, is, > what is required. > > that comes by experience of years. > > regards, > Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , Balaji Narasimhan > <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > Prashant ji, > > > > Though your mail is addressed to Wendy ji, I thought I > > would have a look--after all, you are almost exactly > > one year my junior! :-) > > > > On a more serious front, I do not believe much in > > yogas--I think that an understanding of the > > significances of grahas and their house lordship is > > more important than looking at yogas. > > > > ///yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my > > house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = > > income or less./// > > > > The lord of the 2nd is in the 12th from the 2nd in > > Rahu's star. The 2nd and the 11th are afflicted by the > > aspect of Sani, the lord of the 12th. The lord of the > > 9th house of luck is in the 12th, in the star of 6th > > lord Chandra. > > > > ///But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , > > made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by > > gods help , one of my business client and my mom's > > brother sponsered me to do my higher study in > > Australia./// > > > > This is indicated by the presence of 9th lord [higher > > education/long distance travel] Sukra in the 12th > > [stay abroad]. Sukra's presence in star of 6th lord > > would have implied that you would have had to > > struggle. But the 6th also rules maternal uncle, and > > the lord of the 6th is in own star in the 8th > > [overseas journeys]. > > > > ///At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we > > had an affair for 4 -5 years/// > > > > You broke up when you were around 29, right? This > > would have been around 2003, when Rahu's MD ended, > > right? Rahu takes away what he gives. In your chart, > > he is in the star of Ketu, aspected by 12th lord Sani. > > > > I am sure that some of the problems you have > > faced--especially those relating to loneliness and > > isolation--can be traced back to Kemadruma Yoga. But, > > in the main, as can be seen, a lot of other factors > > too have had a hand. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > Balaji Narasimhan > > Author & Editor > > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > ________ > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Dear Anna, Thanks for your interest. My chart is not easy to judge. I am aware of the nuances involved when judging the results of Nodes. I check the results of the Nodes- Rahu/Ketu in following way normally, before delineating the results of the same. (SACR -Star of Node, Aspects to Node, Conjunction with Node and Raashi or Sign in which Node placed). Details- Rahu in which Cusp. (Results of this placement) Constellation Lord of Rahu placed where (Results) and Lord of which Cusps . (Results) Aspect to Rahu (Not from Rahu, but to Rahu) Planet aspecting placed in which cusp (results) and Lord of which Cusps . (Results). and its constellational results. Planet in conjunction with Rahu (I only prefer 4 degrees Conjunction). Lord of which houses , and of course its constellational results again. Finally Sign in which Node is placed. The Lord of the sign, its Lordship over which other house, and of course its constellational effects. The proper mix of above can only give the results of the Nodes . I have found this method as the most effective in my few years of serious study of astrology. In My Chart- Rahu in Leo 06.41.33 degrees in Nakshatra of Magha. Mars in Leo 06.19.02 degrees in Nakshatra of Magha If I tell you the results of Mars Mahadasha , then probably the same may be taken for Rahu , which may be right, or may not be. If one has to solve the puzzle,then no clues should come, apart from my method which I use above. I will let you know how I have derived my own results for Rahu Mahadasha, using above method, with Placidus House division , but later on. Since KP or Placidus is not spoken on this Forum, I will need permission from Mrs. Wendy to do so., for this individual case. My Birth details. 28th June 1961. Time- 10.14am Place- Eluru (Andhra Pradesh- India) Latitude -16.45 North Long. 81.09 E Ascendant - Leo 15.52.04 Not a single person on these Forums, has been able to give me correct results for Rahu, nor the few who are considered the best in Indian Nakshatra padhaty. Its not a good signal, that those few, who are solving blind charts,and apparently can predict within half an hour to a incident on these blind charts, fail miserably, when it comes to Live Chart of Live person, and on such a broad timed MahaDasha like Rahu, where none of them have to predict for upto one day, but for 18 years general prediction, but they could, since it considered the Nodes. I had done some extensive research on Nodes, only because I was going to face this Dasha in my Life, thus I got to the crux, otherwise probably not spent much time like the others. Still we are not impeccable. But at least some beginning has been made. Let me also confess here, that among all the Astrological Forums , which number I think, around 300, if at all I value anyones comment on my Chart , then it would be Mrs Wendy's among , all the astrologers in these. She is the only sincere and honest, and aware , hardworking astrologer I ever met on any forum. Okay now my chart is game for You. Please shoot. Await to hear from you, what Rahu MahaDasha would give me. Will it make me, or break me ? All are invited to comment, those who wish to, of course. Best wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " A.R. " <bonamente108 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > Would you please share your experience/chart in more details? Placement and aspects of Rahu are also very important. How was the previous, Mars MD? > Regards, > Anna > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear balaji, > > Rahu takes away what it gives. > What is the autheticity of this statement ? > I mean the classical authenticity and not individual > opinion. > I am running Rahu Mahadasha and it has given me good. > Such statements scare me and would scare others. > Please explain with quotes from classics. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > -- In jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Balaji, > > > > Yogas have been made by the same persons who have given us > > Lordships of houses and their significances. So we should > > believe in them. You should search for the reason of the Yoga > > not manisfesting in the life of the native, in your own self, > > as a astrologer,rather than, not believeing in Yogas. > > > > If you are open minded I can tell you the reason why they do > > not work,at times, though apparently they should. > > > > Another point, postmartem on dead bodies is possible by any > > doctor, but to forecast what can happen to the native in future > > is, a feat which is a pre-requisite of a astrologer. > > To connect a past event with astrological pointers is an easy > > task, but to predict for future, is, > > what is required. > > > > that comes by experience of years. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , Balaji Narasimhan > > <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > > > Prashant ji, > > > > > > Though your mail is addressed to Wendy ji, I thought I > > > would have a look--after all, you are almost exactly > > > one year my junior! :-) > > > > > > On a more serious front, I do not believe much in > > > yogas--I think that an understanding of the > > > significances of grahas and their house lordship is > > > more important than looking at yogas. > > > > > > ///yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my > > > house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = > > > income or less./// > > > > > > The lord of the 2nd is in the 12th from the 2nd in > > > Rahu's star. The 2nd and the 11th are afflicted by the > > > aspect of Sani, the lord of the 12th. The lord of the > > > 9th house of luck is in the 12th, in the star of 6th > > > lord Chandra. > > > > > > ///But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , > > > made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by > > > gods help , one of my business client and my mom's > > > brother sponsered me to do my higher study in > > > Australia./// > > > > > > This is indicated by the presence of 9th lord [higher > > > education/long distance travel] Sukra in the 12th > > > [stay abroad]. Sukra's presence in star of 6th lord > > > would have implied that you would have had to > > > struggle. But the 6th also rules maternal uncle, and > > > the lord of the 6th is in own star in the 8th > > > [overseas journeys]. > > > > > > ///At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we > > > had an affair for 4 -5 years/// > > > > > > You broke up when you were around 29, right? This > > > would have been around 2003, when Rahu's MD ended, > > > right? Rahu takes away what he gives. In your chart, > > > he is in the star of Ketu, aspected by 12th lord Sani. > > > > > > I am sure that some of the problems you have > > > faced--especially those relating to loneliness and > > > isolation--can be traced back to Kemadruma Yoga. But, > > > in the main, as can be seen, a lot of other factors > > > too have had a hand. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > Balaji Narasimhan > > > Author & Editor > > > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > > vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. > > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Dear Balaji, Pranam, Very good interpretation Appreciated ,but i would like to say 5 cent of my knowledge. 1)Rahu in 11th , in guru nakshatra and guru lord of 2nd and the 11th , with its Mahadasa running , would definitely make a difference. Venus in the 12th house is the one of the good house Venus can be,but it is bad with respect ot extra marital affairs. Mer and Sat are in parivartan, which also indicate Sat is in Kumbha , and lord of its own house making a powerful parivartan involving lagna lord. Kemedum Yoga is brings poverty or u can say makes one start life from Zero , but , it does that only once in a life time. As u can see rahu in 11th , indicates alot of friends ,and rahu in labhesh means labh from friends. Also with KP sYSTEM rAHU IS IN 10TH HOUSE, indicating very high Professional like . With respect ot loneliness , I would like to say one thing, Yes i feel little lonely , or u can say , i dont trust any one,that's y i don't have best friend . I have heaps of friends , but no best friend .But i do a lot of Bhakti and i believe in god alot which helps me survive in this world. Usually i have heard , that if rahu dasa is bad, then the Jup dasa is good. Yes rahu took away every thing it gave . EX: 1) My gf gone 2) We had a shop ,this shop was my total source of income thought it was on my mom;s name but i used to take money from there got sold off as we needed money. 3) I lost alot of friends as soon as my rahu dasa was going to end . It was not that we had a fight but each one went in their own way. If you would like to discuss more , and exchange your views , I would be very happy, to do so. Pls dont feel offended with my opinion , I may be wrong , this is what i known from my knowledge. Will wait for your reply mate. Kind Regards Prashu On 6/15/07, Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: > > Prashant ji, > > Though your mail is addressed to Wendy ji, I thought I > would have a look--after all, you are almost exactly > one year my junior! :-) > > On a more serious front, I do not believe much in > yogas--I think that an understanding of the > significances of grahas and their house lordship is > more important than looking at yogas. > > ///yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my > house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = > income or less./// > > The lord of the 2nd is in the 12th from the 2nd in > Rahu's star. The 2nd and the 11th are afflicted by the > aspect of Sani, the lord of the 12th. The lord of the > 9th house of luck is in the 12th, in the star of 6th > lord Chandra. > > ///But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , > made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by > gods help , one of my business client and my mom's > brother sponsered me to do my higher study in > Australia./// > > This is indicated by the presence of 9th lord [higher > education/long distance travel] Sukra in the 12th > [stay abroad]. Sukra's presence in star of 6th lord > would have implied that you would have had to > struggle. But the 6th also rules maternal uncle, and > the lord of the 6th is in own star in the 8th > [overseas journeys]. > > ///At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we > had an affair for 4 -5 years/// > > You broke up when you were around 29, right? This > would have been around 2003, when Rahu's MD ended, > right? Rahu takes away what he gives. In your chart, > he is in the star of Ketu, aspected by 12th lord Sani. > > I am sure that some of the problems you have > faced--especially those relating to loneliness and > isolation--can be traced back to Kemadruma Yoga. But, > in the main, as can be seen, a lot of other factors > too have had a hand. > > ~~~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan > Author & Editor > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > ~~~~~~~~~ > > ________ > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. > Visit the Auto Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, With due regards and respect to everybody, the dasha results (malefic side) of Rahu are overemphasized. No astrologer is perfect here. He or she can't claim that he or she understood the Parashara completely. I am talking in a general tone and not of any particular astrologer in these lists. My teacher once said, " after 60 years of practising astrology and who is known world wide, he understood the techniques of Parashara only to the extent of 3 per cent and the least understood planets are the nodes " (meaning thereby they are not easily understandable how they behave). What to talk of others. That is why I always prefer to remain a silent member of these lists since very long and never try to contest what they write. If you write anything they would say it is a futile exercise. It is waste of your time, energy and your money spending on the bandwidth. They are absolutely right. Now I realize. At times there are good points rarely you can get in these lists. It is my dasha and transit that they support me that I have to communicate (write) and get into arguments. Once it is over (the dasha) I would stop writing. Once I said this in the list of Andrew, he got annoyed and even he closed his list long ago. Now Goravani followed suit for the best reasons known to him. (Of course Andrew and Goravani are astrologers in their own right). I recall one of my friends words now " get away when you are not comfortable in a place rather than contesting and arguing " because the astrologers are the most egoistic persons available on this planet and it applies to me also. One says Rahu has no spiritual side. This is the most objectionable and ludicrous sweeping statement ever I have heard about Rahu; though I contested it was unnoticed by everybody in this forum including the moderator. Read Bhavartha Ratnakara, you would know the spiritual side of Rahu. Even people scared of talking of Indira Gandhi during her Rahu periods about her visible political activities. But certain astrologers do not know how the spiritual side of Rahu manifested in her life silently, during those periods. Nehru was always opposing and condemning astrology openly, when Rahu manifested he started keeping the Gita under his pillow. Every planet has to give its dahsa results or (their significations) according to its placement, aspects on them and their conjunctions. We know well, nodes have certain special rules. The mutual placement of planets from Rahu during a particular period matters much. Of course, the dasha chidra always play the game when a malefic dasha is to end and a benefic dasha to start (status of natural benefics which I am talking of). Which are the significations is meant to be used for a particular person in a chart during the dasha of a planet. To find out that one needs patience and experience, that is the trick of this game. It is not possible to teach this knack through these lists. You have to attain it. Your own chart and dasha should support it. Read Sarvartha chintamani – the word used for him is " Chattrakaraka " . How this book treats Rahu as an excellent planet in certain ways. See how valuable points are given in that treatise to interpret him. Read Uttra Kalamirta – what are the significations given to Rahu and how to interpret them? Though Jatakabharanam does not deal with the results of dasha of Rahu in various houses but it gives valuable clues. It is highly pertinent to quote here, one clue in regard to the chart of Parasu is that " Rahu in the 3rd, 6th and 11th houses aspected by benefics is strongly protective. ( I doubt even that gentlemen read my message about his chart.) If I elaborate this area another controversy of aspects on node would start. I can't afford to argue. In that instant chart there is no kemadruma and Rahu is placed in 11th and aspected by Malefic Mars. What would be the result? It is obvious. Why blame Rahu? Mars clearly says make your self-efforts if you want to rise in your professional area and subsequently get your gains. See the Saturn and Jupiter's placement and what they say about the 7th house affairs. Who are they aspecting the 7th house. What are the results? Why blame Rahu? Why at all Rahu has given the affairs in his dasha in the first place? What is the role of Moon in this? One should try to understand this first and come to a conclusion with the help of the very accepted principles and less controversial points attached to Rahu. See the effect of this sweeping statement. At the first instance you yourself scared and stated in one of the messages, you are worried of Rahu's major period because of the sweeping statement. Another member already scared of Rahu's Sub-period in the Jupiter's major period regarding the separation of his partner from him. No sweeping statement such as this recent one (about Rahu) should be made blindly which can create unnecessary fear in the mind of the reader. Every chart is different from one another as no two persons behave alike. Do not worry much about your Rahu major period. I already enjoyed my Rahu and Jupiter major periods. Don't panic. Don't take the rules literally and apply them liberally with your commonsense considering the changing times. I do not write my observations on your chart simply because you have already expressed a sort of misconceived notion about the sincerity and honesty of the astrologers present in this forum except one. Swamy. jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Anna, > > Thanks for your interest. > My chart is not easy to judge. > > I am aware of the nuances involved when judging the > results of Nodes. I check the results of the Nodes- > Rahu/Ketu in following way normally, > before delineating the results of the same. > > (SACR -Star of Node, Aspects to Node, Conjunction > with Node and Raashi or Sign in which Node placed). > > Details- > Rahu in which Cusp. (Results of this placement) > Constellation Lord of Rahu placed where (Results) > and Lord of which Cusps . (Results) > Aspect to Rahu (Not from Rahu, but to Rahu) > Planet aspecting placed in which cusp (results) > and Lord of which Cusps . (Results). > and its constellational results. > Planet in conjunction with Rahu (I only prefer 4 degrees > Conjunction). Lord of which houses , and of course > its constellational results again. > Finally Sign in which Node is placed. > The Lord of the sign, its Lordship over > which other house, and of course its > constellational effects. > > The proper mix of above can only give the results of > the Nodes . I have found this method as the most > effective in my few years of serious study of astrology. > > In My Chart- > Rahu in Leo 06.41.33 degrees in Nakshatra of Magha. > Mars in Leo 06.19.02 degrees in Nakshatra of Magha > > If I tell you the results of Mars Mahadasha , then probably > the same may be taken for Rahu , which may be right, or > may not be. If one has to solve the > puzzle,then no clues should come, apart from > my method which I use above. > > I will let you know how I have derived my own results > for Rahu Mahadasha, using above method, with > Placidus House division , but later on. Since > KP or Placidus is not spoken on this Forum, I will need > permission from Mrs. Wendy to do so., for this > individual case. > > My Birth details. > 28th June 1961. Time- 10.14am > Place- Eluru (Andhra Pradesh- India) > Latitude -16.45 North Long. 81.09 E > Ascendant - Leo 15.52.04 > > Not a single person on these Forums, has been able to give > me correct results for Rahu, nor the few who are considered the > best in Indian Nakshatra padhaty. Its not a good signal, > that those few, who are solving blind charts,and apparently > can predict within half an hour to a incident > on these blind charts, fail miserably, when it > comes to Live Chart of Live person, and on such a broad > timed MahaDasha like Rahu, where none of them have to > predict for upto one day, but for 18 years general > prediction, but they could, since it considered the Nodes. > > I had done some extensive research on Nodes, only because > I was going to face this Dasha in my Life, thus I got > to the crux, otherwise probably not spent much time > like the others. Still we are not impeccable. But > at least some beginning has been made. > > Let me also confess here, that among all the Astrological > Forums , which number I think, around 300, if at all > I value anyones comment on my Chart , then it would be > Mrs Wendy's among , all the astrologers in these. > She is the only sincere and honest, and aware , > hardworking astrologer I ever met on any forum. > > Okay now my chart is game for You. > Please shoot. > Await to hear from you, what Rahu MahaDasha > would give me. Will it make me, or break me ? > All are invited to comment, those who wish > to, of course. > > Best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " A.R. " <bonamente108@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > Would you please share your experience/chart in more details? > Placement and aspects of Rahu are also very important. How was the > previous, Mars MD? > > Regards, > > Anna > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > Dear balaji, > > > > Rahu takes away what it gives. > > What is the autheticity of this statement ? > > I mean the classical authenticity and not individual > > opinion. > > I am running Rahu Mahadasha and it has given me good. > > Such statements scare me and would scare others. > > Please explain with quotes from classics. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Dear Swamy and All, ///It is my dasha and transit that they support me that I have to communicate (write) and get into arguments. Once it is over (the dasha) I would stop writing./// I have great empathy with this statement and have often consoled myself with the thought that once the duties associated with this (Mercury) dasa are complete I might be allowed to slip away into obscurity, free from the constant responsibility of mediation. Until then, I, like everyone else, am bound to fulfil the obligations of this dasa...there is no escaping this! I recall the following interview which sums it up perfectly: **The whole truth about life, the whole truth about freedom and predestination is summarised in a little interaction of Maharishi. A few years ago Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was interviewed by a French journalist, who asked: 'Maharishi, how does the world look like in the highest state of consciousness?' Maharishi said: " Then you see that everything is exactly as it should be " . The man, not realising the depth of this expression, asked: " But why then, are you working so hard to improve the situation? " Whereupon Maharishi smilingly answered: " Because that is exactly as it should be " .** Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:34 PM Re: kemdrum yoga Dear Bhaskar, With due regards and respect to everybody, the dasha results (malefic side) of Rahu are overemphasized. No astrologer is perfect here. He or she can't claim that he or she understood the Parashara completely. I am talking in a general tone and not of any particular astrologer in these lists. My teacher once said, " after 60 years of practising astrology and who is known world wide, he understood the techniques of Parashara only to the extent of 3 per cent and the least understood planets are the nodes " (meaning thereby they are not easily understandable how they behave). What to talk of others. That is why I always prefer to remain a silent member of these lists since very long and never try to contest what they write. If you write anything they would say it is a futile exercise. It is waste of your time, energy and your money spending on the bandwidth. They are absolutely right. Now I realize. At times there are good points rarely you can get in these lists. It is my dasha and transit that they support me that I have to communicate (write) and get into arguments. Once it is over (the dasha) I would stop writing. Once I said this in the list of Andrew, he got annoyed and even he closed his list long ago. Now Goravani followed suit for the best reasons known to him. (Of course Andrew and Goravani are astrologers in their own right). I recall one of my friends words now " get away when you are not comfortable in a place rather than contesting and arguing " because the astrologers are the most egoistic persons available on this planet and it applies to me also. One says Rahu has no spiritual side. This is the most objectionable and ludicrous sweeping statement ever I have heard about Rahu; though I contested it was unnoticed by everybody in this forum including the moderator. Read Bhavartha Ratnakara, you would know the spiritual side of Rahu. Even people scared of talking of Indira Gandhi during her Rahu periods about her visible political activities. But certain astrologers do not know how the spiritual side of Rahu manifested in her life silently, during those periods. Nehru was always opposing and condemning astrology openly, when Rahu manifested he started keeping the Gita under his pillow. Every planet has to give its dahsa results or (their significations) according to its placement, aspects on them and their conjunctions. We know well, nodes have certain special rules. The mutual placement of planets from Rahu during a particular period matters much. Of course, the dasha chidra always play the game when a malefic dasha is to end and a benefic dasha to start (status of natural benefics which I am talking of). Which are the significations is meant to be used for a particular person in a chart during the dasha of a planet. To find out that one needs patience and experience, that is the trick of this game. It is not possible to teach this knack through these lists. You have to attain it. Your own chart and dasha should support it. Read Sarvartha chintamani - the word used for him is " Chattrakaraka " . How this book treats Rahu as an excellent planet in certain ways. See how valuable points are given in that treatise to interpret him. Read Uttra Kalamirta - what are the significations given to Rahu and how to interpret them? Though Jatakabharanam does not deal with the results of dasha of Rahu in various houses but it gives valuable clues. It is highly pertinent to quote here, one clue in regard to the chart of Parasu is that " Rahu in the 3rd, 6th and 11th houses aspected by benefics is strongly protective. ( I doubt even that gentlemen read my message about his chart.) If I elaborate this area another controversy of aspects on node would start. I can't afford to argue. In that instant chart there is no kemadruma and Rahu is placed in 11th and aspected by Malefic Mars. What would be the result? It is obvious. Why blame Rahu? Mars clearly says make your self-efforts if you want to rise in your professional area and subsequently get your gains. See the Saturn and Jupiter's placement and what they say about the 7th house affairs. Who are they aspecting the 7th house. What are the results? Why blame Rahu? Why at all Rahu has given the affairs in his dasha in the first place? What is the role of Moon in this? One should try to understand this first and come to a conclusion with the help of the very accepted principles and less controversial points attached to Rahu. See the effect of this sweeping statement. At the first instance you yourself scared and stated in one of the messages, you are worried of Rahu's major period because of the sweeping statement. Another member already scared of Rahu's Sub-period in the Jupiter's major period regarding the separation of his partner from him. No sweeping statement such as this recent one (about Rahu) should be made blindly which can create unnecessary fear in the mind of the reader. Every chart is different from one another as no two persons behave alike. Do not worry much about your Rahu major period. I already enjoyed my Rahu and Jupiter major periods. Don't panic. Don't take the rules literally and apply them liberally with your commonsense considering the changing times. I do not write my observations on your chart simply because you have already expressed a sort of misconceived notion about the sincerity and honesty of the astrologers present in this forum except one. Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Dear Swamy, ///See the effect of this sweeping statement. At the first instance you yourself scared and stated in one of the messages, you are worried of Rahu's major period because of the sweeping statement. Another member already scared of Rahu's Sub-period in the Jupiter's major period regarding the separation of his partner from him. No sweeping statement such as this recent one (about Rahu) should be made blindly which can create unnecessary fear in the mind of the reader. Every chart is different from one another as no two persons behave alike./// The classical writings such as BPHS etc, etc, are filled with sweeping statement after sweeping statement. Certainly, those unfamiliar with jyotish, could easily be in fear of many of these 'sweeping statements'...maraka (death-inflicting) planets, evil houses etc, etc.. However, it would be expected that serious students could quickly reach the level where they'd recognise the PRINCIPLE behind these (so-called) sweeping statements and investigate their application in various charts. PS: It's taken for granted that the majority on this list ARE serious students! Those who are not can always ask for clarification of anything they don't understand (or may fear). This is the whole purpose of the forum...to discuss these principles amongst ourselves in order to gain a better understanding. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Dear Swamyji, Absolutely true. Rahu would, either as a Mahadasha Lord or antardasha lord, only give or take away, whatever houses it is connected with. Rahu is no where to blame.If Rahu Mahadasha is existing in life of native and Guru antar exists as Lord of benefic houses, it would give benefic results, and if Jupiter Lord of malefic,then would give malefic results. If at the end of Rahu Mahadasha if Rahu is connected with the wealth giving dashas, as in my case Rahu-Mercury antar, then it Has to give,give and only give, and not take away. The malefic side of Rahu has been overemphasised. Rahu is also spiritual.it has to be,since it has taken amrit from the manthan. how can anyone call it malefic ? We have no right to either call it malefic, and neither benefic. It has to behave as per the Planets with whom it is associated, no blame can be given to Rahu. It was some bad person sitting in the Line of the Devatas, before taking the Nectar., but afterwards ??? Was not Valmiki bad before he became a Rishi ? was not Tulsidas a wife clinger before he actually became Tulsidasa ? was not Surdas a moorkha before he became Surdasa ? was not Yashoddhana a prince before he became Buddha ? was not angulimala....... ??? was not nachiketa ........??? was not Karna ............??? was not Bhishma pitamha...??? was not Mirabai ..........??? we have to see what was the person currently before he left his body,rather than what he was before ? what was the final attainment has to be seen and not the past. saints too have a past, and sinners too have a future. Same way Rahu cannot be condemned . we have to be justice minded. and should not forget that these are not masses of gas and stone, but manifestations of the Lord, to dispense justice and award rewards to the worthy. Rahu has the power to giveus the materialstic pleasures before he takes away , but Venus is also like that, and Jupiter is also like that.why not blame them ?? why only Rahu ? Does not Saturn dasha come after Jupiter to take away ? then why not blame Saturn ? (But Saturn has also not to be blamed, it is just doing its job which has been given to him, to punish for the past paap karmas and reward for the past purva karmas) We should not forget the real story of our ancestor Raja Yayati who enjoyed material pleasures for a thousand years, and then realised that this is all meaningless, and has no end to pleasure giving, but contentment and peace can come only by Love and submission to Him. so thats what Rahu does. then why Blame Rahu ? regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > With due regards and respect to everybody, the dasha results (malefic > side) of Rahu are overemphasized. No astrologer is perfect here. He > or she can't claim that he or she understood the Parashara > completely. I am talking in a general tone and not of any particular > astrologer in these lists. My teacher once said, " after 60 years of > practising astrology and who is known world wide, he understood the > techniques of Parashara only to the extent of 3 per cent and the > least understood planets are the nodes " (meaning thereby they are > not easily understandable how they behave). What to talk of > others. That is why I always prefer to remain a silent member of > these lists since very long and never try to contest what they write. > If you write anything they would say it is a futile exercise. It is > waste of your time, energy and your money spending on the bandwidth. > They are absolutely right. Now I realize. At times there are good > points rarely you can get in these lists. It is my dasha and transit > that they support me that I have to communicate (write) and get into > arguments. Once it is over (the dasha) I would stop writing. > > Once I said this in the list of Andrew, he got annoyed and even he > closed his list long ago. Now Goravani followed suit for the best > reasons known to him. (Of course Andrew and Goravani are astrologers > in their own right). I recall one of my friends words now " get away > when you are not comfortable in a place rather than contesting and > arguing " because the astrologers are the most egoistic persons > available on this planet and it applies to me also. > > One says Rahu has no spiritual side. This is the most objectionable > and ludicrous sweeping statement ever I have heard about Rahu; though > I contested it was unnoticed by everybody in this forum including the > moderator. Read Bhavartha Ratnakara, you would know the spiritual > side of Rahu. > > Even people scared of talking of Indira Gandhi during her Rahu > periods about her visible political activities. But certain > astrologers do not know how the spiritual side of Rahu manifested in > her life silently, during those periods. Nehru was always opposing > and condemning astrology openly, when Rahu manifested he started > keeping the Gita under his pillow. > > Every planet has to give its dahsa results or (their significations) > according to its placement, aspects on them and their conjunctions. > We know well, nodes have certain special rules. The mutual placement > of planets from Rahu during a particular period matters much. Of > course, the dasha chidra always play the game when a malefic dasha is > to end and a benefic dasha to start (status of natural benefics which > I am talking of). Which are the significations is meant to be used > for a particular person in a chart during the dasha of a planet. To > find out that one needs patience and experience, that is the trick of > this game. It is not possible to teach this knack through these > lists. You have to attain it. Your own chart and dasha should > support it. > > Read Sarvartha chintamani – the word used for him > is " Chattrakaraka " . How this book treats Rahu as an excellent planet > in certain ways. See how valuable points are given in that treatise > to interpret him. Read Uttra Kalamirta – what are the significations > given to Rahu and how to interpret them? Though Jatakabharanam does > not deal with the results of dasha of Rahu in various houses but it > gives valuable clues. It is highly pertinent to quote here, one clue > in regard to the chart of Parasu is that " Rahu in the 3rd, 6th and > 11th houses aspected by benefics is strongly protective. ( I doubt > even that gentlemen read my message about his chart.) If I elaborate > this area another controversy of aspects on node would start. I > can't afford to argue. > > In that instant chart there is no kemadruma and Rahu is placed in > 11th and aspected by Malefic Mars. What would be the result? It is > obvious. Why blame Rahu? Mars clearly says make your self-efforts if > you want to rise in your professional area and subsequently get your > gains. See the Saturn and Jupiter's placement and what they say > about the 7th house affairs. Who are they aspecting the 7th house. > What are the results? Why blame Rahu? Why at all Rahu has given the > affairs in his dasha in the first place? What is the role of Moon in > this? One should try to understand this first and come to a > conclusion with the help of the very accepted principles and less > controversial points attached to Rahu. > > See the effect of this sweeping statement. At the first instance you > yourself scared and stated in one of the messages, you are worried of > Rahu's major period because of the sweeping statement. Another > member already scared of Rahu's Sub-period in the Jupiter's major > period regarding the separation of his partner from him. No sweeping > statement such as this recent one (about Rahu) should be made blindly > which can create unnecessary fear in the mind of the reader. Every > chart is different from one another as no two persons behave alike. > > Do not worry much about your Rahu major period. I already enjoyed my > Rahu and Jupiter major periods. Don't panic. Don't take the rules > literally and apply them liberally with your commonsense considering > the changing times. I do not write my observations on your chart > simply because you have already expressed a sort of misconceived > notion about the sincerity and honesty of the astrologers present in > this forum except one. > > Swamy. > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Anna, > > > > Thanks for your interest. > > My chart is not easy to judge. > > > > I am aware of the nuances involved when judging the > > results of Nodes. I check the results of the Nodes- > > Rahu/Ketu in following way normally, > > before delineating the results of the same. > > > > (SACR -Star of Node, Aspects to Node, Conjunction > > with Node and Raashi or Sign in which Node placed). > > > > Details- > > Rahu in which Cusp. (Results of this placement) > > Constellation Lord of Rahu placed where (Results) > > and Lord of which Cusps . (Results) > > Aspect to Rahu (Not from Rahu, but to Rahu) > > Planet aspecting placed in which cusp (results) > > and Lord of which Cusps . (Results). > > and its constellational results. > > Planet in conjunction with Rahu (I only prefer 4 degrees > > Conjunction). Lord of which houses , and of course > > its constellational results again. > > Finally Sign in which Node is placed. > > The Lord of the sign, its Lordship over > > which other house, and of course its > > constellational effects. > > > > The proper mix of above can only give the results of > > the Nodes . I have found this method as the most > > effective in my few years of serious study of astrology. > > > > In My Chart- > > Rahu in Leo 06.41.33 degrees in Nakshatra of Magha. > > Mars in Leo 06.19.02 degrees in Nakshatra of Magha > > > > If I tell you the results of Mars Mahadasha , then probably > > the same may be taken for Rahu , which may be right, or > > may not be. If one has to solve the > > puzzle,then no clues should come, apart from > > my method which I use above. > > > > I will let you know how I have derived my own results > > for Rahu Mahadasha, using above method, with > > Placidus House division , but later on. Since > > KP or Placidus is not spoken on this Forum, I will need > > permission from Mrs. Wendy to do so., for this > > individual case. > > > > My Birth details. > > 28th June 1961. Time- 10.14am > > Place- Eluru (Andhra Pradesh- India) > > Latitude -16.45 North Long. 81.09 E > > Ascendant - Leo 15.52.04 > > > > Not a single person on these Forums, has been able to give > > me correct results for Rahu, nor the few who are considered the > > best in Indian Nakshatra padhaty. Its not a good signal, > > that those few, who are solving blind charts,and apparently > > can predict within half an hour to a incident > > on these blind charts, fail miserably, when it > > comes to Live Chart of Live person, and on such a broad > > timed MahaDasha like Rahu, where none of them have to > > predict for upto one day, but for 18 years general > > prediction, but they could, since it considered the Nodes. > > > > I had done some extensive research on Nodes, only because > > I was going to face this Dasha in my Life, thus I got > > to the crux, otherwise probably not spent much time > > like the others. Still we are not impeccable. But > > at least some beginning has been made. > > > > Let me also confess here, that among all the Astrological > > Forums , which number I think, around 300, if at all > > I value anyones comment on my Chart , then it would be > > Mrs Wendy's among , all the astrologers in these. > > She is the only sincere and honest, and aware , > > hardworking astrologer I ever met on any forum. > > > > Okay now my chart is game for You. > > Please shoot. > > Await to hear from you, what Rahu MahaDasha > > would give me. Will it make me, or break me ? > > All are invited to comment, those who wish > > to, of course. > > > > Best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " A.R. " <bonamente108@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > Would you please share your experience/chart in more details? > > Placement and aspects of Rahu are also very important. How was the > > previous, Mars MD? > > > Regards, > > > Anna > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > Dear balaji, > > > > > > Rahu takes away what it gives. > > > What is the autheticity of this statement ? > > > I mean the classical authenticity and not individual > > > opinion. > > > I am running Rahu Mahadasha and it has given me good. > > > Such statements scare me and would scare others. > > > Please explain with quotes from classics. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Dear Swamy, ///It is highly pertinent to quote here, one clue in regard to the chart of Parasu is that " Rahu in the 3rd, 6th and 11th houses aspected by benefics is strongly protective./// Indeed, Rahu is considered well-placed in the trishadya houses (3, 6, 11). However, I don't recall seeing any reference to benefic aspect before? I don't doubt what you say by any means, but obviously I don't have that particular reference at hand. ///If I elaborate this area another controversy of aspects on node would start. I can't afford to argue./// Why, I wonder, do astrologers find it so difficult to present their arguments (as a lawyer would present his arguments in court) in a reasonable, well-researched manner; using examples to support their case. If one has strong evidence to support their argument it should be put forward in an intelligent manner...surely only greater understanding can be gained from this? Sad it is that most attempts to put forward a legitimate argument in support of a particular view is seen as an attempt at one-upmanship. Perhaps this great fault of astrologers is due to a lack of formal training which covers etiquette as well as knowledge of the law. I compare astrologers with lawyers because both are engaged in law. Lawyers deal with man-made laws whilst astrologers deal with natural law...the laws of the universe! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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