When do you get two adjectives for the price of a noun?

[Guest guest]

///In an earlier posting I called 'gentle dictator' two adjectives and I

was immediately given a lesson in english grammar using UPPER CASE by

my Jyotishini Elder Sister Wendy! (more experienced in Jyotish and

elder in years too perhaps) ;-)///

 

The upper case was simply to identify the adjectives...nothing else should

be construed from this :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

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" Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan

<jyotish-vidya >

Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:10 AM

When do you get two adjectives for the price of a

noun?

 

 

When does a noun and an adjective make two adjectives?

Dear All,

 

In an earlier posting I called 'gentle dictator' two adjectives and I

was immediately given a lesson in english grammar using UPPER CASE by

my Jyotishini Elder Sister Wendy! (more experienced in Jyotish and

elder in years too perhaps) ;-)

 

However, all that aside (language changes drastically as anyone over

30 years old must know! " Gay " has a very different connotation today

than it had in my childhood!

 

Why did I call gentle dictator two adjectives (and as soon as I wrote

that knew that it will confuse someone!)?

 

Because in this term there is no noun! There is not gentle dictator!

However, at times individuals have been called " gentle dictators "

beacause they were micromanagers. They were not really dictators (as

in Hitler, Pinochet, etc). They were ordinary people, perhaps even

teachers who had this dictatorial flair and not in the usual

destructive, harmful sense.

 

If there indeed is a PERSON who is a Dictator (of a country I

suppose?) and is also gentle, then by all means the

adjective " gentle " is describing a noun, 'dictator'

 

All grammar aside, please look around! Do you actually know of any

such person? NO! On the other hand, you see many many individuals

(nouns!) who appear gentle (adjective 1) and yet are controlling and

dictatorial (adjective 2)! Hence the 2 adjectives that describe a

noun! The noun could be you, me, the headmistress of your school,

pretty much anyone, I suppose!

 

I will not press my luck and work through the other dual adjective:

false teacher :-)

 

Makes sense, folks?

 

Namastay!

 

Rohiniranjan

[Guest guest]

It was not :-)

 

I hope you now see why I was calling it two adjectives!

 

Because there is no noun (real person!) in the term gentle dictator!

As I clearly explained, Wendy Didi (if I may be so bold and

presumptious to call you that...).

 

But it is okay if you do not agree.

 

I will not bug you on this topic any longer! On a personal note, I

realize you must have a lot on your hands lately and my sincere

apologies for being somewhat insensitive in the last few messages and

not given you the space or time to heal from your recent challenges

in your personal life. Treat it as an immaturity of a younger

brother, please...

 

Rohiniranjan

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> ///In an earlier posting I called 'gentle dictator' two adjectives

and I

> was immediately given a lesson in english grammar using UPPER CASE

by

> my Jyotishini Elder Sister Wendy! (more experienced in Jyotish and

> elder in years too perhaps) ;-)///

>

> The upper case was simply to identify the adjectives...nothing else

should

> be construed from this :-)

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:10 AM

> When do you get two adjectives for the

price of a

> noun?

>

>

> When does a noun and an adjective make two adjectives?

> Dear All,

>

> In an earlier posting I called 'gentle dictator' two adjectives and

I

> was immediately given a lesson in english grammar using UPPER CASE

by

> my Jyotishini Elder Sister Wendy! (more experienced in Jyotish and

> elder in years too perhaps) ;-)

>

> However, all that aside (language changes drastically as anyone over

> 30 years old must know! " Gay " has a very different connotation today

> than it had in my childhood!

>

> Why did I call gentle dictator two adjectives (and as soon as I

wrote

> that knew that it will confuse someone!)?

>

> Because in this term there is no noun! There is not gentle dictator!

> However, at times individuals have been called " gentle dictators "

> beacause they were micromanagers. They were not really dictators (as

> in Hitler, Pinochet, etc). They were ordinary people, perhaps even

> teachers who had this dictatorial flair and not in the usual

> destructive, harmful sense.

>

> If there indeed is a PERSON who is a Dictator (of a country I

> suppose?) and is also gentle, then by all means the

> adjective " gentle " is describing a noun, 'dictator'

>

> All grammar aside, please look around! Do you actually know of any

> such person? NO! On the other hand, you see many many individuals

> (nouns!) who appear gentle (adjective 1) and yet are controlling and

> dictatorial (adjective 2)! Hence the 2 adjectives that describe a

> noun! The noun could be you, me, the headmistress of your school,

> pretty much anyone, I suppose!

>

> I will not press my luck and work through the other dual adjective:

> false teacher :-)

>

> Makes sense, folks?

>

> Namastay!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini,

 

///Because there is no noun (real person!) in the term gentle dictator!///

 

I think for the sake of all following this thread, it's important to pass on

the correct information...this is my (only) wish in continuing this

thread...most certainly NOT my intention to take you (personally) to task, I

assure you.

 

From the following website

(http://www.arts.uottawa.ca/writcent/hypergrammar/nouns.html) we find this

description:

" A noun is a word used to name a person, animal, place, thing, and abstract

idea. "

 

Dictator was a noun when I attended school and still is according to the

following site

(http://esl.about.com/od/vocabularyadvanced/a/a_wordforms3.htm). Note;

dictator is listed in the column headed 'Personal noun'.

 

///Wendy Didi (if I may be so bold and presumptious to call you that...).///

 

Perhaps, when you have the time, you can let me know the meaning behind the

term?

 

///Treat it as an immaturity of a younger brother, please...///

 

I'm heading towards my 65th birthday...don't know how old you are?

 

Do take care, Rohini and I hope you will accept what I say in the spirit of

sharing (for the whole group) that I intended it to be. For now I must go

and take some rest...I seem to have picked up a tummy bug and am fighting

off nausea (as well as the other unmentionable).

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

-

" Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan

<jyotish-vidya >

Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:36 AM

Re: When do you get two adjectives for the price of

a noun?

 

 

It was not :-)

 

I hope you now see why I was calling it two adjectives!

 

Because there is no noun (real person!) in the term gentle dictator!

As I clearly explained, Wendy Didi (if I may be so bold and

presumptious to call you that...).

 

But it is okay if you do not agree.

 

I will not bug you on this topic any longer! On a personal note, I

realize you must have a lot on your hands lately and my sincere

apologies for being somewhat insensitive in the last few messages and

not given you the space or time to heal from your recent challenges

in your personal life. Treat it as an immaturity of a younger

brother, please...

 

Rohiniranjan

[Guest guest]

Sigh!

 

" Pranaam Didi " (Didi = Elder sister)

 

Pranaam is a term used by east indians living on the eastern part of

India (Bengal) who are taught to show their respect to elders by

touching their feet. Arcane practices some of the *moderns* may say

and in Punjab which is more assertive generally, the similar " pairi pa

®nna " involves touching the knees only!

 

I was right in my presumption! I am roughly a decade behind you in

terms of this lifetime in ape years.

 

I am sorry for my mistaken presumption (another example of yet

another oxymoron!) that since you were involved with Late Maharshi

Mahesh Yogiji, you would be familiar with the indian lingo. But then,

again, why should you? We all have our simple biases of course!

Sorry!!

 

Take care and be well.

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini,

>

> ///Because there is no noun (real person!) in the term gentle

dictator!///

>

> I think for the sake of all following this thread, it's important

to pass on

> the correct information...this is my (only) wish in continuing this

> thread...most certainly NOT my intention to take you (personally)

to task, I

> assure you.

>

> From the following website

> (http://www.arts.uottawa.ca/writcent/hypergrammar/nouns.html) we

find this

> description:

> " A noun is a word used to name a person, animal, place, thing, and

abstract

> idea. "

>

> Dictator was a noun when I attended school and still is according

to the

> following site

> (http://esl.about.com/od/vocabularyadvanced/a/a_wordforms3.htm).

Note;

> dictator is listed in the column headed 'Personal noun'.

>

> ///Wendy Didi (if I may be so bold and presumptious to call you

that...).///

>

> Perhaps, when you have the time, you can let me know the meaning

behind the

> term?

>

> ///Treat it as an immaturity of a younger brother, please...///

>

> I'm heading towards my 65th birthday...don't know how old you are?

>

> Do take care, Rohini and I hope you will accept what I say in the

spirit of

> sharing (for the whole group) that I intended it to be. For now I

must go

> and take some rest...I seem to have picked up a tummy bug and am

fighting

> off nausea (as well as the other unmentionable).

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:36 AM

> Re: When do you get two adjectives for the

price of

> a noun?

>

>

> It was not :-)

>

> I hope you now see why I was calling it two adjectives!

>

> Because there is no noun (real person!) in the term gentle dictator!

> As I clearly explained, Wendy Didi (if I may be so bold and

> presumptious to call you that...).

>

> But it is okay if you do not agree.

>

> I will not bug you on this topic any longer! On a personal note, I

> realize you must have a lot on your hands lately and my sincere

> apologies for being somewhat insensitive in the last few messages

and

> not given you the space or time to heal from your recent challenges

> in your personal life. Treat it as an immaturity of a younger

> brother, please...

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

[Guest guest]

Thank You Rohini...

 

///I am sorry for my mistaken presumption (another example of yet

another oxymoron!) that since you were involved with Late Maharshi

Mahesh Yogiji, you would be familiar with the indian lingo.///

 

Most certainly I was fortunate enough to gain a certain proficiency in

respect to Vedic terminology through association with MMY (in particular,

Maharishi Jyotish). However that did not include basic Indian lingo :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

-

" Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan

<jyotish-vidya >

Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:13 PM

Re: When do you get two adjectives for the price of

a noun?

 

 

Sigh!

 

" Pranaam Didi " (Didi = Elder sister)

 

Pranaam is a term used by east indians living on the eastern part of

India (Bengal) who are taught to show their respect to elders by

touching their feet. Arcane practices some of the *moderns* may say

and in Punjab which is more assertive generally, the similar " pairi pa

®nna " involves touching the knees only!

 

I was right in my presumption! I am roughly a decade behind you in

terms of this lifetime in ape years.

 

I am sorry for my mistaken presumption (another example of yet

another oxymoron!) that since you were involved with Late Maharshi

Mahesh Yogiji, you would be familiar with the indian lingo. But then,

again, why should you? We all have our simple biases of course!

Sorry!!

 

Take care and be well.

 

Rohiniranjan