Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Dear fellow members It is an observation by anyone about the way questions were posted to the Group Head, in a very casual way and almost like demanding a solution. As agreed by everyone, there is a pressure on the part of the moderator, in giving solutions. Moreover any amount of service rendered is not remembered, but only those cases where no replies were given will be amplified. It is a thankless job. But good people start and continue any service work not for anyone's appreciation or expecting something in return. They continue to serve unmindful of the reactions or debates in the group. Some time back i.e on 19th April, I have mentioned the following points after getting pained by the discussions that were going in the group. The idea of any group is for helping one another and to gain strength, wealth, security GroupWise. Here this particular group is also meant for giving some kind of foresight, advice, and moral strength and counseling to those who are in difficulties and needed a helping hand. It is unfortunate that the number of queries is building up day by day and it is not possible for anyone to cater replies to the questions being poured into the group e-mails. It is equally unfortunate that a discussion on the validity and other details of the science is being discussed or argued. Let there be no argument on anything. Arguments are not welcome in spiritual areas. The main purpose of this group is to render service, to all those who needed it, beyond discussions and validation proof. Just because one asked an advice, the Group moderator gave a solution. It is for the person who asked question to accept it or not. Nobody forced anyone to believe what all is told here and to come forward with further questions. The seeker must wait until the moderator replies. As we observe, the moderator is doing all that is possible for a human being. Let me tell one important point for assimilation into the brains of the answer seekers. Birth chart surely is a map or a timetable of their events in the life. This is given as a capsule based on the closing balance of account of a person in the past births. However planets try to dictate the events in the shape of a reward or punishment to the person based on the past events,good or bad done by the individual. They are like the police, judiciary,jail authorities, the government or other discipline enforcement officials. So if an individual resolves to live upright and truthful and fights back with all determination, the planets will not curse him. In fact they will make the man to undergo the process, and give results accordingly. If one is of a short-cut type, Saturn makes him to work and work again until the individual learns how to do it in the right way and also teaches many new things as knowledge. So we have to be careful in doing things based on the positioning of Saturn in the birth chart and transits. In general one should be methodical and systematic in doing things. If he is not, Saturn shall teach him how to be. Similarly Jupiter. Jupiter gives all that is required for happy living and if we misuse it, he will also punish. If a person is served food abundantly in a function, and if he consumes everything more just because it was coming to him as a free offer, then Jupiter punishes him with stomachache and digestion troubles. Same thing when money, position and power were misused. So one has to keep all these natural things in mind, take precaution and guidance from astrology and accordingly plan his/her life. It is like a battery light which shows you the path while walking in the midnight time, on a road where there are ditches, potholes, snakes thorns, rubble, stones and everything that can hurt us. Using the light we will avoid these unwanted things, and utilize the good path available and travel. Same thing happens in the life path also. However great and accomplished one's birth chart may be, he cannot capitalize all benefits if he is lazy and not sincere in doing his duty. Similarly however bad one's horoscope is, he will still get success by very hard work and sometimes as much as swimming against the tide and flow of a river. I feel sorry the way questions are asked. One should accept all troubles as a direct result of his past deeds, and seek help to get out of it, by way of service, charity and divine meditations etc. One should also learn to be close to nature by adhering to the nature's laws and respecting the disciplined life. A person who misbehaves cannot be successful and cannot be peaceful. It is not money, status, physical happiness, wickedness, trouble shooting and selfishness that are resources. It is the divine love, helping nature, charity and forgiveness that help him. So almost all the seekers should first understand and realize their responsibilities rather than seeking their rights of getting an easy I am not intending to hurt anyone, but requesting everyone to be patient, to act politely, understand and help others and work hard, selfless, and practice more silence and patience. You will be given a light to see the path. But if there is no motor-able road, u will have to be prepared for a troublesome journey. Astrology tells u which way to go; at what period it is safe, and where to rest and when to continue. The break periods are different for the walkers, for two wheelers, for cars, for buses and for trains on Railways. They are still different for Airlines. While an international flight can travel for 20,000 miles nonstop, a train may have to halt after 100km, and a foot walker may have to halt after 10km itself. So don’t try to think it as how it is understood by you. But understand it properly. A rabbit will always have four legs. But when you hold it down by one of its legs, only three legs are seen. A Taraus person believes only what he sees. So he will say the rabbit has only three legs. Is it correct? Like that there are many things to be understood. Common sense is the sense that is rarely used by human beings, though God has given this sense intelligence to the human beings. It is a wonder that common sense is not commonly found to be used. The idea of this mail message is (1) please ask a question, if there is a real problem and in-spite of your sincere efforts, you were not able to get the event done properly and when it was beyond your apprehension. (2) When a question is asked, don’t repeat and remind every day or every week. A right answer will come at the appropriate moment. So be patient to wait. Waiting always fetches. (3) When you were told a solution, if you believe, please do it with out any doubt. (4) Whatever effort you may put in,you may not realise the proportional result, since the programmes in your life are charged with the outcome of your own deeds in the previous birth, as a cumulative effect. So, some people have to undergo certain sufferings, and sometimes they are expected to yield only after they clear their dues. So one has to mould his behavior, pattern of life to get the eligibility of the comforts they are seeking. (5) Everybody should realize, when they are asking a question by referring their birth details, that the life pattern is guided by the birthday and time. It is like a CD or DVD, which when played, shows the movie picturised. Similarly, the horoscope cast with the birth details is like the CD or DVD of the questioner’s life. So accept them in Toto. Then make amendments to your life timetable with your changed values of life and their implementation will help you to tide over the crisis. (6) Hence I want all the members, to please observe some discipline in life and then get the full benefit of counseling based on any knowledgeable system.Mere asking for solutions without an overhaul of yourself will not make you fit to receive better life than what you are experiencing now. (7) It is the self-effort to better ourselves, together with the astrological advice, that finally helps you to tide over your difficulties. It is always better to pray for strength to bear sufferings, rather than praying for elimination or relief from such difficulties. May the knowledgeable GURUS and Masters help us in our endeavor to come up to the expectations. If anything is said more, kindly pardon me and forgive me. Love from Brother KBKM. ___- --- Babitha Vasanth <babitha70 wrote: > > Thanks kamal. Its logic. Readers dont give Mr Umesh > time to even read the quieries or take a breath for > himself. > > This shows how people are so selfish and desperate > that they always think for only themselves and no > one at all. > > We have to change. > > Babitha > > > > kamal dpal <wondersucker wrote: > Hi > So rightly said! I completely agree with u, > and thats the reason i havent placed my query till > now. I hope people will learn something from ur > views. Once again thx 4 writing this mail. > kamal:) > Babitha Vasanth <babitha70 wrote: > Thanks for the Invitation to join the Group. > I have ben receivng emails every 2 seconds from the > group and it has come to my surprise that everyone > needs a reply for their request ASAP, why? > One must know that the person who we are adressing > the email to is a Human just like us who has earthly > problems like us and to make it worst we are > pressuring him all the more.I would like to request > all to stop ones request and to let Umesh serve the > first come first basis. > If we do hurry then 80% or the more is going to miss > their reply. > Looking at every ones hurry for ASAP REPLY beleive > me I dont even feel like putting in my query for it > will be lost just like the ones who has not > receiveda reply so far. > Take it easy all of you. > Thx, > Babitha > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > Beware: People will contact you on your personal > mail offering remedies, far from transparency of > this group. The risk is yours. Trust only if you > initiate correspondence. > > Please select " No email " option to avoid mails to > your mailbox. > > Please be patient. Effort is to answer all queries > systematically, queue wise based on Msg # no. Do > remind if your message is missed. Generally, an > answer to your query should happen within one week. > > Umesh Sharma, a professional astrologer, has most of > the day consumed by his clients. Hence lag in > answering queries. > > > Post in group for free limited guidance. Send > private mails to Umeshji only if ready to pay for > full professional consultation. > > INSTRUCTION:- 1. DO ONLY ONE REMEDY IN ONE DAY, > DURING DAY TIME. > 2. SEND FEED BACK AFTER 15/43DAYS, AFTER HAVING > PERFORMED THE REMEDIES. > > CAUTION: Although utmost care has been taken to > select and suggest the remedies, remedies suggested > are in good faith with the view to do welfare of > Humanity. Consultees should observe and perform > these only at their own will, accord and risk. > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > Beware: People will contact you on your personal > mail offering remedies, far from transparency of > this group. The risk is yours. Trust only if you > initiate correspondence. > > Please select " No email " option to avoid mails to > your mailbox. > > Please be patient. Effort is to answer all queries > systematically, queue wise based on Msg # no. Do > remind if your message is missed. Generally, an > answer to your query should happen within one week. > > Umesh Sharma, a professional astrologer, has most of > the day consumed by his clients. Hence lag in > answering queries. > > > Post in group for free limited guidance. Send > private mails to Umeshji only if ready to pay for > full professional consultation. > > INSTRUCTION:- 1. DO ONLY ONE REMEDY IN ONE DAY, > DURING DAY TIME. > 2. SEND FEED BACK AFTER 15/43DAYS, AFTER HAVING > PERFORMED THE REMEDIES. > > CAUTION: Although utmost care has been taken to > select and suggest the remedies, remedies suggested > are in good faith with the view to do welfare of > Humanity. Consultees should observe and perform > these only at their own will, accord and risk. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 It is alwaysbetter to pray for strength to bear sufferings, ratherthan praying for elimination or relief from suchdifficulties. Well said Mr. Moorthy. This is all we need to ask when praying. The rest is in our hands itself. I loved reading your article. A clear and logical mix or astrology and practicals. Many would be benefitted by this article including myself. Its a clear eye opener. SR.Rajkumar Balakrishna Murthy <kbk_murthi wrote: Dear fellow membersIt is an observation by anyone about the way questionswere posted to the Group Head, in a very casual wayand almost like demanding a solution. As agreed byeveryone, there is a pressure on the part of themoderator, in giving solutions. Moreover any amount ofservice rendered is not remembered, but only thosecases where no replies were given will be amplified.It is a thankless job. But good people start andcontinue any service work not for anyone'sappreciation or expecting something in return. Theycontinue to serve unmindful of the reactions ordebates in the group.Some time back i.e on 19th April, I have mentioned thefollowing points after getting pained by thediscussions that were going in the group.The idea of any group is for helping one another andto gain strength, wealth, security GroupWise. Herethis particular group is also meant for giving somekind of foresight, advice, and moral strength andcounseling to those who are in difficulties and neededa helping hand.It is unfortunate that the number of queries isbuilding up day by day and it is not possible foranyone to cater replies to the questions being pouredinto the group e-mails. It is equally unfortunate that a discussion on thevalidity and other details of the science is beingdiscussed or argued. Let there be no argument on anything. Arguments arenot welcome in spiritual areas. The main purpose ofthis group is to render service, to all those whoneeded it, beyond discussions and validation proof. Just because one asked an advice, the Groupmoderator gave a solution. It is for the person whoasked question to accept it or not. Nobody forcedanyone to believe what all is told here and to comeforward with further questions. The seeker must wait until the moderator replies. Aswe observe, the moderator is doing all that ispossible for a human being.Let me tell one important point for assimilation intothe brains of the answer seekers. Birth chart surely is a map or a timetable of theirevents in the life. This is given as a capsule basedon the closing balance of account of a person in thepast births. However planets try to dictate the eventsin the shape of a reward or punishment to the personbased on the past events,good or bad done by theindividual. They are like the police, judiciary,jail authorities,the government or other discipline enforcementofficials. So if an individual resolves to live upright andtruthful and fights back with all determination, theplanets will not curse him. In fact they will make the man to undergo the process,and give results accordingly. If one is of a short-cuttype, Saturn makes him to work and work again untilthe individual learns how to do it in the right wayand also teaches many new things as knowledge. So wehave to be careful in doing things based on thepositioning of Saturn in the birth chart and transits.In general one should be methodical and systematic indoing things. If he is not, Saturn shall teach him howto be.Similarly Jupiter. Jupiter gives all that is requiredfor happy living and if we misuse it, he will alsopunish. If a person is served food abundantly in afunction, and if he consumes everything more justbecause it was coming to him as a free offer, thenJupiter punishes him with stomachache and digestiontroubles. Same thing when money, position and powerwere misused. So one has to keep all these naturalthings in mind, take precaution and guidance fromastrology and accordingly plan his/her life.It is like a battery light which shows you the pathwhile walking in the midnight time, on a road wherethere are ditches, potholes, snakes thorns, rubble,stones and everything that can hurt us. Using thelight we will avoid these unwanted things, and utilizethe good path available and travel. Same thing happensin the life path also.However great and accomplished one's birth chart maybe, he cannot capitalize all benefits if he is lazyand not sincere in doing his duty.Similarly however bad one's horoscope is, he willstill get success by very hard work and sometimes asmuch as swimming against the tide and flow of a river.I feel sorry the way questions are asked. One shouldaccept all troubles as a direct result of his pastdeeds, and seek help to get out of it, by way ofservice, charity and divine meditations etc.One should also learn to be close to nature byadhering to the nature's laws and respecting thedisciplined life. A person who misbehaves cannot besuccessful and cannot be peaceful. It is not money,status, physical happiness, wickedness, troubleshooting and selfishness that are resources. It is thedivine love, helping nature, charity and forgivenessthat help him.So almost all the seekers should first understand andrealize their responsibilities rather than seekingtheir rights of getting an easy I am not intending to hurt anyone, but requestingeveryone to be patient, to act politely, understandand help others and work hard, selfless, and practicemore silence and patience. You will be given a light to see the path. But ifthere is no motor-able road, u will have to beprepared for a troublesome journey. Astrology tells uwhich way to go; at what period it is safe, and whereto rest and when to continue. The break periods are different for the walkers, fortwo wheelers, for cars, for buses and for trains onRailways. They are still different for Airlines. Whilean international flight can travel for 20,000 milesnonstop, a train may have to halt after 100km, and afoot walker may have to halt after 10km itself. Sodon’t try to think it as how it is understood by you.But understand it properly.A rabbit will always have four legs. But when you holdit down by one of its legs, only three legs are seen.A Taraus person believes only what he sees. So he willsay the rabbit has only three legs. Is it correct?Like that there are many things to be understood. Common sense is the sense that is rarely used by humanbeings, though God has given this sense intelligenceto the human beings. It is a wonder that common senseis not commonly found to be used.The idea of this mail message is (1) please ask a question, if there is a real problemand in-spite of your sincere efforts, you were notable to get the event done properly and when it wasbeyond your apprehension.(2) When a question is asked, don’t repeat and remindevery day or every week. A right answer will come atthe appropriate moment. So be patient to wait. Waitingalways fetches.(3) When you were told a solution, if you believe,please do it with out any doubt. (4) Whatever effort you may put in,you may not realisethe proportional result, since the programmes in yourlife are charged with the outcome of your own deeds inthe previous birth, as a cumulative effect. So, some people have to undergo certain sufferings,and sometimes they are expected to yield only afterthey clear their dues. So one has to mould hisbehavior, pattern of life to get the eligibility ofthe comforts they are seeking.(5) Everybody should realize, when they are asking aquestion by referring their birth details, that thelife pattern is guided by the birthday and time. It islike a CD or DVD, which when played, shows the moviepicturised. Similarly, the horoscope cast with thebirth details is like the CD or DVD of thequestioner’s life. So accept them in Toto. Then makeamendments to your life timetable with your changedvalues of life and their implementation will help youto tide over the crisis.(6) Hence I want all the members, to please observesome discipline in life and then get the full benefitof counseling based on any knowledgeable system.Mereasking for solutions without an overhaul of yourselfwill not make you fit to receive better life than whatyou are experiencing now.(7) It is the self-effort to better ourselves,together with the astrological advice, that finallyhelps you to tide over your difficulties. It is alwaysbetter to pray for strength to bear sufferings, ratherthan praying for elimination or relief from suchdifficulties. May the knowledgeable GURUS and Mastershelp us in our endeavor to come up to theexpectations.If anything is said more, kindly pardon me and forgiveme.Love from Brother KBKM.___---- Babitha Vasanth wrote:> > Thanks kamal. Its logic. Readers dont give Mr Umesh> time to even read the quieries or take a breath for> himself.> > This shows how people are so selfish and desperate> that they always think for only themselves and no> one at all.> > We have to change.> > Babitha> > > > kamal dpal wrote: > Hi> So rightly said! I completely agree with u,> and thats the reason i havent placed my query till> now. I hope people will learn something from ur> views. Once again thx 4 writing this mail.> kamal:)> Babitha Vasanth wrote:> Thanks for the Invitation to join the Group.> I have ben receivng emails every 2 seconds from the> group and it has come to my surprise that everyone> needs a reply for their request ASAP, why?> One must know that the person who we are adressing> the email to is a Human just like us who has earthly> problems like us and to make it worst we are> pressuring him all the more.I would like to request> all to stop ones request and to let Umesh serve the> first come first basis.> If we do hurry then 80% or the more is going to miss> their reply.> Looking at every ones hurry for ASAP REPLY beleive> me I dont even feel like putting in my query for it> will be lost just like the ones who has not> receiveda reply so far.> Take it easy all of you.> Thx,> Babitha> > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > Beware: People will contact you on your personal> mail offering remedies, far from transparency of> this group. The risk is yours. Trust only if you> initiate correspondence.> > Please select "No email" option to avoid mails to> your mailbox.> > Please be patient. Effort is to answer all queries> systematically, queue wise based on Msg # no. Do> remind if your message is missed. Generally, an> answer to your query should happen within one week. > > Umesh Sharma, a professional astrologer, has most of> the day consumed by his clients. Hence lag in> answering queries.> > > Post in group for free limited guidance. Send> private mails to Umeshji only if ready to pay for> full professional consultation.> > INSTRUCTION:- 1. DO ONLY ONE REMEDY IN ONE DAY,> DURING DAY TIME.> 2. SEND FEED BACK AFTER 15/43DAYS, AFTER HAVING> PERFORMED THE REMEDIES.> > CAUTION: Although utmost care has been taken to> select and suggest the remedies, remedies suggested> are in good faith with the view to do welfare of> Humanity. Consultees should observe and perform> these only at their own will, accord and risk. > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > > > Beware: People will contact you on your personal> mail offering remedies, far from transparency of> this group. The risk is yours. Trust only if you> initiate correspondence.> > Please select "No email" option to avoid mails to> your mailbox.> > Please be patient. Effort is to answer all queries> systematically, queue wise based on Msg # no. Do> remind if your message is missed. Generally, an> answer to your query should happen within one week. > > Umesh Sharma, a professional astrologer, has most of> the day consumed by his clients. Hence lag in> answering queries.> > > Post in group for free limited guidance. Send> private mails to Umeshji only if ready to pay for> full professional consultation.> > INSTRUCTION:- 1. DO ONLY ONE REMEDY IN ONE DAY,> DURING DAY TIME.> 2. SEND FEED BACK AFTER 15/43DAYS, AFTER HAVING> PERFORMED THE REMEDIES.> > CAUTION: Although utmost care has been taken to> select and suggest the remedies, remedies suggested> are in good faith with the view to do welfare of> Humanity. Consultees should observe and perform> these only at their own will, accord and risk. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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