Upaya for Deblited Saturn.(FEED BACK-Manoj Kar)

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Respected Windyji & members,Namaskar.

 

Madam,Thank u for ur upaya for deblited saturn.After receiting daily the sani

mantra,Nilajana Samabhasam Rabiputram........ " & Om San Sani Scharaya namah " i am

feeling better & confidenet now.Though from career point of view still waiting

for a better break,but hope by lord saturn grace, i will obtain it in future

also.I think for any deblited palnet we should recite the mantra for that planet

to appease him apart from gifting items related to that planet.

 

regards

Manoj Kar

 

 

Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote:

Dear Shiv,

 

If you wouldn't wear the gem, you wouldn't recite the mantra. A malefic

planet i.e., malefic to lagna, should be propitiated instead. One needs to

consider (also) the relationship between the planets in a particular

horoscope as well as the effect of aspects etc..

Would strengthening the influence of one be detrimental to another? All

these things need to be considered.

 

In Manoj's case, Saturn is YogaKaraka (owning 9th/10th) he has no major

aspect to other planets, is a natural friend to lagna lord Venus and,

importantly, he aspects his own home (9th) from sign of debilitation.

No doubt strengthening the quality of Saturn would strengthen the

significations of the houses he rules.

 

We talked earlier about how a bhava benefits from the aspect of its lord,

however, if that lord is debilitated where is the benefit?

The significations of that bhava are weakened due to the weakened state of

its lord...is this not so?

 

As in life (generally) there are compromises to make and we have to ask

ourselves; are we mature enough as astrologers to understand the

consequences of those compromises.

For a man (particularly) 10th house of career/status is extremely important

but does it take precedence over other house lords that Saturn may be

temporarily inimical to?

 

We need to consider carefully the fact that Saturn's (temporary)

relationship, with all but Rahu, is hostile; and, for Manoj, both dasa and

bhukti lords (MO/VE) are aspecting 10th house. Is their aspect on 10th

detrimental enough to hinder the significations of this vital house; and

(importantly) would strengthening the significations of this house (through

its lord, Saturn) be detrimental to the significations of dasa/bhukti lords

(MO/VE) whom Saturn is temporarily hostile towards??

 

I ask Manoj (and others) to consider this now and give their opinion.

 

I myself, after 20yrs experience, hesitate to give remedial measures due to

the fact that we have to be absolutely sure our recommendation will do no

harm.

With age and experience I've come to the conclusion that prayer and

meditation are the very best remedies of all...in the silence of deep

meditation much of our karma gets resolved :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

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" Shiv " <theblisswithin

<jyotish-vidya >

Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:16 AM

Re: Upaya for Deblited Saturn.

 

Dear Wendyji

Could you answer a related question. Some people say that reciting the

mantra of a planet when it's malefic, increases the problems. The

reason they give is that planet doesn't act intelligently, although

the deity of the planet can. So if one invokes more energy of that

planet,more harm happens.

Case in point: how about Saturn in Lagna, in its MKS.Reciting shani

mantra would increase the tamas associated with the planet already?

 

Best rgds

Shiv

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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One more think i would like to add that if we are under the feet (saran) of a

sadguru always,than we never be felt any difficulties in life and sadguru always

gives us marga darshan in all field of life.(may be in form of remedies)

 

regards

Manoj kar

 

MANOJ KAR <manoj_kar7 wrote:

Respected Windyji & members,Namaskar.

 

Madam,Thank u for ur upaya for deblited saturn.After receiting daily the sani

mantra,Nilajana Samabhasam Rabiputram........ " & Om San Sani Scharaya namah " i am

feeling better & confidenet now.Though from career point of view still waiting

for a better break,but hope by lord saturn grace, i will obtain it in future

also.I think for any deblited palnet we should recite the mantra for that planet

to appease him apart from gifting items related to that planet.

 

regards

Manoj Kar

 

 

Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote:

Dear Shiv,

 

If you wouldn't wear the gem, you wouldn't recite the mantra. A malefic

planet i.e., malefic to lagna, should be propitiated instead. One needs to

consider (also) the relationship between the planets in a particular

horoscope as well as the effect of aspects etc..

Would strengthening the influence of one be detrimental to another? All

these things need to be considered.

 

In Manoj's case, Saturn is YogaKaraka (owning 9th/10th) he has no major

aspect to other planets, is a natural friend to lagna lord Venus and,

importantly, he aspects his own home (9th) from sign of debilitation.

No doubt strengthening the quality of Saturn would strengthen the

significations of the houses he rules.

 

We talked earlier about how a bhava benefits from the aspect of its lord,

however, if that lord is debilitated where is the benefit?

The significations of that bhava are weakened due to the weakened state of

its lord...is this not so?

 

As in life (generally) there are compromises to make and we have to ask

ourselves; are we mature enough as astrologers to understand the

consequences of those compromises.

For a man (particularly) 10th house of career/status is extremely important

but does it take precedence over other house lords that Saturn may be

temporarily inimical to?

 

We need to consider carefully the fact that Saturn's (temporary)

relationship, with all but Rahu, is hostile; and, for Manoj, both dasa and

bhukti lords (MO/VE) are aspecting 10th house. Is their aspect on 10th

detrimental enough to hinder the significations of this vital house; and

(importantly) would strengthening the significations of this house (through

its lord, Saturn) be detrimental to the significations of dasa/bhukti lords

(MO/VE) whom Saturn is temporarily hostile towards??

 

I ask Manoj (and others) to consider this now and give their opinion.

 

I myself, after 20yrs experience, hesitate to give remedial measures due to

the fact that we have to be absolutely sure our recommendation will do no

harm.

With age and experience I've come to the conclusion that prayer and

meditation are the very best remedies of all...in the silence of deep

meditation much of our karma gets resolved :-)

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

-

" Shiv " <theblisswithin

<jyotish-vidya >

Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:16 AM

Re: Upaya for Deblited Saturn.

 

Dear Wendyji

Could you answer a related question. Some people say that reciting the

mantra of a planet when it's malefic, increases the problems. The

reason they give is that planet doesn't act intelligently, although

the deity of the planet can. So if one invokes more energy of that

planet,more harm happens.

Case in point: how about Saturn in Lagna, in its MKS.Reciting shani

mantra would increase the tamas associated with the planet already?

 

Best rgds

Shiv

 

 

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