Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, Namaskar. It is similar to the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa Chakra. In D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more grahas there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord. Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So this chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is better to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be sure of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. If you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your birth time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data. Best wishes, Sourav ====================================================================== sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi" <jayachandran_revathi wrote:>> i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety)> > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects to 2nd > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered??> > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within seconds > so > is there any other method? or> how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds)> > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be a > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik etc).> > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the bhav also?> > > regards jayachandran> > > --i- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108@> wrote:> >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > Namaskar. Family > deity> > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing Kula in > Vimsamsa> > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart shows Guru> > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ================================================================> > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > >> > > hello,> > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out family > diety> > > from ones chart?> > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or> > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or> > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 -dear sourav, my birth data ia given below dob:12 june 1985 tob: 5-20 pm place:kannur kerala sex:male regards jayachandran -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108 wrote: > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > Namaskar. It is similar to the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa Chakra. In D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more grahas there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord. > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So this chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is better to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be sure of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. If you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your birth time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > ====================================================================== > > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " <jayachandran _revathi@> wrote: > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety) > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects to 2 nd > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered?? > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within seconds > > so > > is there any other method? or > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds) > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be a > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik etc). > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the bhav also? > > > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > --i- In sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > > > > Namaskar. Family > > deity > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing Kula in > > Vimsamsa > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart shows Guru > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > ================================================================ > > > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out family > > diety > > > > from ones chart? > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Srimaan Revathi, Namaskar. Has your family been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately correct. Please provide some information on your education (with proper dates). Best wishes, Sourav ===============================================================sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi" <jayachandran_revathi wrote:>> -dear sourav, > my birth data ia given below> dob:12 june 1985> tob: 5-20 pm> place:kannur kerala> sex:male> > regards jayachandran> > > > > > > > > > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@ > wrote:> >> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > Namaskar. It is similar to > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa Chakra. In > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more grahas > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord.> > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So this > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is better > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be sure > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. If > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your birth > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > ======================================================================> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi" <jayachandran> _revathi@> wrote:> > >> > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety)> > > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects to 2> nd > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered??> > > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within > seconds > > > so > > > is there any other method? or> > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds)> > > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be a > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik etc).> > > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the bhav > also?> > > > > > > > > regards jayachandran> > > > > > > > > --i- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108@> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > > > > > Namaskar. > Family > > > deity> > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing Kula in > > > Vimsamsa> > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart shows > Guru> > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata.> > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > Sourav> > > > > > > > ================================================================> > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > hello,> > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out > family > > > diety> > > > > from ones chart?> > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or> > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or> > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 -i think no. i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no info abt dietys) my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 papers during my studies (btech) for exat dates of that i have to search if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u -- In sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote: > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > Dear Srimaan Revathi, > > Namaskar. Has your family > been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with proper > dates). > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > =============================================================== > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote: > > > > -dear sourav, > > my birth data ia given below > > dob:12 june 1985 > > tob: 5-20 pm > > place:kannur kerala > > sex:male > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@ > > wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > Namaskar. It is similar to > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa Chakra. In > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more grahas > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord. > > > > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So this > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is better > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be sure > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. If > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your birth > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > ===================================================================== = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " <jayachandran > > _revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety) > > > > > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects to 2 > > nd > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered?? > > > > > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within > > seconds > > > > so > > > > is there any other method? or > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds) > > > > > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be a > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik etc). > > > > > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the bhav > > also? > > > > > > > > > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > --i- In sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > Family > > > > deity > > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing Kula in > > > > Vimsamsa > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart shows > > Guru > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > ================================================================ > > > > > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " > > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out > > family > > > > diety > > > > > > from ones chart? > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Jayachandran, 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula Devatha.In your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by Shukra and Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru (V) who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping that Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity.Now Ketu is with Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra and he aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female neecha deity like Raktheshwari,Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with Naaga.Normally in Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from generations. Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in your family ?? I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.jayachandran_revathi <jayachandran_revathi wrote: -i think no.i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no info abt dietys)my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 papers during my studies (btech) for exat dates of that i have to search if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u -- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote:>> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > Dear Srimaan Revathi,> > Namaskar. Has your family> been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately> correct. Please provide some information on your education (with proper> dates).> > Best wishes,> > Sourav> > ===============================================================> sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> >> > -dear sourav,> > my birth data ia given below> > dob:12 june 1985> > tob: 5-20 pm> > place:kannur kerala> > sex:male> >> > regards jayachandran> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@> > wrote:> > >> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > >> > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > Namaskar. It is similar to> > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa Chakra. In> > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more grahas> > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one> > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord.> > >> > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively> > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So this> > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is better> > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be sure> > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. If> > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your birth> > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Sourav> > >> > ======================================================================> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi" <jayachandran> > _revathi@> wrote:> > > >> > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety)> > > >> > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects to 2> > nd> > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered??> > > >> > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within> > seconds> > > > so> > > > is there any other method? or> > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds)> > > >> > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be a> > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik etc).> > > >> > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the bhav> > also?> > > >> > > >> > > > regards jayachandran> > > >> > > >> > > > --i- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > >> > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > >> > > > > Namaskar.> > Family> > > > deity> > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing Kula in> > > > Vimsamsa> > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart shows> > Guru> > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata.> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Sourav> > > > >> > > > > ================================================================> > > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > hello,> > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out> > family> > > > diety> > > > > > from ones chart?> > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or> > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or> > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramadas Rao, Namaskar The fourth house specifically indicates 'Bandhu' whilst the second house is 'Kula'. Thus the Kula devata is found from the second house in Vimsamsa. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramadas Rao18 September 2006 10:00sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: family deity OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Jayachandran, 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula Devatha.In your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by Shukra and Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru (V) who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping that Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity.Now Ketu is with Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra and he aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female neecha deity like Raktheshwari,Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with Naaga.Normally in Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from generations. Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in your family ?? I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.jayachandran_revathi <jayachandran_revathi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: -i think no.i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no info abt dietys)my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 papers during my studies (btech) for exat dates of that i have to search if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u -- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote:>> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > Dear Srimaan Revathi,> > Namaskar. Has your family> been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately> correct. Please provide some information on your education (with proper> dates).> > Best wishes,> > Sourav> > ===============================================================> sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> >> > -dear sourav,> > my birth data ia given below> > dob:12 june 1985> > tob: 5-20 pm> > place:kannur kerala> > sex:male> >> > regards jayachandran> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@> > wrote:> > >> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > >> > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > Namaskar. It is similar to> > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa Chakra. In> > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more grahas> > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one> > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord.> > >> > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively> > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So this> > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is better> > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be sure> > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. If> > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your birth> > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Sourav> > >> > ======================================================================> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi" <jayachandran> > _revathi@> wrote:> > > >> > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety)> > > >> > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects to 2> > nd> > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered??> > > >> > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within> > seconds> > > > so> > > > is there any other method? or> > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds)> > > >> > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be a> > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik etc).> > > >> > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the bhav> > also?> > > >> > > >> > > > regards jayachandran> > > >> > > >> > > > --i- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > >> > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > >> > > > > Namaskar.> > Family> > > > deity> > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing Kula in> > > > Vimsamsa> > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart shows> > Guru> > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata.> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Sourav> > > > >> > > > > ================================================================> > > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > hello,> > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out> > family> > > > diety> > > > > > from ones chart?> > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or> > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or> > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Sri Ramadas-ji, Pranaam. I gratefully learned something new in your e-mail about deriving Kula worship details from 4th house in Rasi Chart. I am trying to apply this knowledge in my own chart, kindly assist. In my case Kula worship is performed to Sri Radha-Madhava. However, in rasi chart, 4th house contains Rahu in Hasta Nakshetra (ruled by Chandra) and 4th house is aspected by Guru, Shukra, Surya and Ketu. I am not sure how this indiactes Sri Rasha Madhava. However, in Vimsamsa, 2nd lord is aspected by Chandra-Shukra and Guru with stronger influence coming from Chandra-Shukra yuti. Does this indicate Sri Radha-Madhava ? Thank you. Best wishes, Sourav =================================================================sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> OM NAMO NARAYANAYA> Dear Jayachandran,> 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula Devatha.In your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by Shukra and Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru (V) who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping that Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity.Now Ketu is with Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra and he aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female neecha deity like Raktheshwari,Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with Naaga.Normally in Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from generations.> Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in your family ??> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > jayachandran_revathi jayachandran_revathi wrote:> -i think no.> > i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that > some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no > info abt dietys)> > my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just > completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health > problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 > papers during my studies (btech) > for exat dates of that i have to search > > if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u > > -- In sohamsa , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Srimaan Revathi,> > > > Namaskar. Has your > family> > been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately> > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with > proper> > dates).> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ===============================================================> > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > >> > > -dear sourav,> > > my birth data ia given below> > > dob:12 june 1985> > > tob: 5-20 pm> > > place:kannur kerala> > > sex:male> > >> > > regards jayachandran> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > >> > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > Namaskar. It is similar to> > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa > Chakra. In> > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more > grahas> > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one> > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord.> > > >> > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively> > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So > this> > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is > better> > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be > sure> > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. > If> > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your > birth> > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data.> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > >> > > > Sourav> > > >> > > > =====================================================================> => > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi" > <jayachandran> > > _revathi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety)> > > > >> > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects > to 2> > > nd> > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered??> > > > >> > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within> > > seconds> > > > > so> > > > > is there any other method? or> > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds)> > > > >> > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be > a> > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik > etc).> > > > >> > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the > bhav> > > also?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > regards jayachandran> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --i- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108@> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Namaskar.> > > Family> > > > > deity> > > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing > Kula in> > > > > Vimsamsa> > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart > shows> > > Guru> > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata.> > > > > >> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > Sourav> > > > > >> > > > > > > ================================================================> > > > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > hello,> > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out> > > family> > > > > diety> > > > > > > from ones chart?> > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or> > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or> > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Sriman Jayachandran, Namaskar. I find your Siddhamsa (D-24) needs to be rectified. If this is rectified then your Vimsamsa is also rectified. Please provide exact details of (A) how your school education was - any major changes/troubles/ achievements - when School ended (exact dates - atleast month and year) (B) how was bachelors education-which school- any troubles/changes/achievements - when exactly began and when exactly ended) © if and when employed - which date you received new of employment and which date join work. (D) Father's profession. Best wishes, Sourav =================================================================sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi" <jayachandran_revathi wrote:>> -i think no.> > i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that > some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no > info abt dietys)> > my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just > completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health > problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 > papers during my studies (btech) > for exat dates of that i have to search > > if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u > > > > -- In sohamsa , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Srimaan Revathi,> > > > Namaskar. Has your > family> > been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately> > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with > proper> > dates).> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ===============================================================> > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > >> > > -dear sourav,> > > my birth data ia given below> > > dob:12 june 1985> > > tob: 5-20 pm> > > place:kannur kerala> > > sex:male> > >> > > regards jayachandran> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > >> > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > Namaskar. It is similar to> > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa > Chakra. In> > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more > grahas> > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one> > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord.> > > >> > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively> > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So > this> > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is > better> > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be > sure> > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. > If> > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your > birth> > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data.> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > >> > > > Sourav> > > >> > > > =====================================================================> => > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi" > <jayachandran> > > _revathi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety)> > > > >> > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects > to 2> > > nd> > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered??> > > > >> > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within> > > seconds> > > > > so> > > > > is there any other method? or> > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds)> > > > >> > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be > a> > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik > etc).> > > > >> > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the > bhav> > > also?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > regards jayachandran> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --i- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108@> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Namaskar.> > > Family> > > > > deity> > > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing > Kula in> > > > > Vimsamsa> > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart > shows> > > Guru> > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata.> > > > > >> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > Sourav> > > > > >> > > > > > > ================================================================> > > > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > hello,> > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out> > > family> > > > > diety> > > > > > > from ones chart?> > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or> > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or> > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 -- dear ramdaas ji you have very sound knowledge in dietys worshiped in kerala.(i never expected an outside keralite to mention these types of dietys). earlier during my school days i never believed in astrology and such things.when i got interest in it,i started examining the charts of everyone in our family.to my surprise i noticed that every one in family suffers from bad sukra.as i sufferd hardly due to my 6th sukra i started thinking of remedy. it was believed that we lost our family temple during a war time (when tipu attacked kerala and destructed most of the temples of north kerala ) kindly note that we follow a maternal family system in contrast to other parts of the country.can u confirm the diety.i can also give the birth data of other members of my family the birth details are 1. dob: october 5th 1954 tob:19: 40 kannur kerala female 2.march 21 1976 tob:19:17 kannur kerala male do u think prasna mode is easy to answer such queris? regards jayachandran - In sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH > OM NAMO NARAYANAYA > Dear Jayachandran, > 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula Devatha.In your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by Shukra and Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru (V) who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping that Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity.Now Ketu is with Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra and he aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female neecha deity like Raktheshwari,Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with Naaga.Normally in Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from generations. > Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in your family ?? > I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > jayachandran_revathi <jayachandran_revathi wrote: > -i think no. > > i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that > some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no > info abt dietys) > > my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just > completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health > problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 > papers during my studies (btech) > for exat dates of that i have to search > > if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u > > -- In sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108@> wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > Dear Srimaan Revathi, > > > > Namaskar. Has your > family > > been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately > > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with > proper > > dates). > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > =============================================================== > > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > -dear sourav, > > > my birth data ia given below > > > dob:12 june 1985 > > > tob: 5-20 pm > > > place:kannur kerala > > > sex:male > > > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > > Namaskar. It is similar to > > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa > Chakra. In > > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more > grahas > > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one > > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord. > > > > > > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively > > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So > this > > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is > better > > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be > sure > > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. > If > > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your > birth > > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > ===================================================================== > = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " > <jayachandran > > > _revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety) > > > > > > > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects > to 2 > > > nd > > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered?? > > > > > > > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within > > > seconds > > > > > so > > > > > is there any other method? or > > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds) > > > > > > > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be > a > > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik > etc). > > > > > > > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the > bhav > > > also? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --i- In sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > Family > > > > > deity > > > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing > Kula in > > > > > Vimsamsa > > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart > shows > > > Guru > > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================================ > > > > > > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " > > > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out > > > family > > > > > diety > > > > > > > from ones chart? > > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or > > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or > > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 --- dear sourav, in lower primary classes i studied in a school which is very near to my home . till 4th standard i studied there.the classes normally ends in march. in my lp school i was very good at studies (even on stage performance :that children do at that age.). a change i can mention u is that i stopped eating non veg food during my 3rd standard vaccation ( 93 april last week to may 1st week :between that time i took that decision : not sure of dates). in 94 april i wrote one entrance exam and got admitted to another school( a gov. special school) from 5th to 10 i studied there.my life there was ok.but i never had good friends. i studied sanskrit as my first language. i got many awards in sanskrit prasnottari held every year as part of youth festivel. i passed my 10th in 2000 . wrote exaams in march and results came by may(25th or 27th) i got 91 % in 10th (but truth is that i expected more) in 2000 july i enrolled in new school( cbse school). where i did 11th and 12th (2000-2002)i dreamt very high on those days .i disliked the new school and teachers.( i got one or two friends on those days). i prepared hard 4 my jee exam held in decmber(result by feb,)(the fact is that i am a lazy maan by nature but worked very hard 4 it).but failed .actually i was terribly affected by this incident.my rank in kerala entrance was also not upto the mark(may 2002) .in cbse exam of 12th std i got 76 % (march).the fact is that i never prepared 4 my cbse exam after my jee failure in july i got admissions to my enginnering college and classes started by 16th 09 2002. the first year was ok 4 me .though i sufferd a lot in last month of ketu mahadas(exactly the pratyntardasa of saturn).the sukra mahadas brouht only sorrow , enemity and lonliness .besides it crated a lot of health problems by 2004 aug september.the health problems started decrasing only in my s7 (last year). i lost papers in semester 4, s5 and s6( 2004may-june, 2004 nov, 2006 may-june).i got my btech by july this year. still now i am unemployed.i wrote IELTS exam on 26th of aug and got high band score.(if u want to know anything else i will giv u a personal email:abt sukradasa) my father is a business man doing pharmacutical business. regards vidhu (short bio -- so far) In sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote: > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > Dear Sriman Jayachandran, > > Namaskar. I find > your Siddhamsa (D-24) needs to be rectified. If this is rectified then > your Vimsamsa is also rectified. Please provide exact details of (A) how > your school education was - any major changes/troubles/ achievements - > when School ended (exact dates - atleast month and year) (B) how was > bachelors education-which school- any troubles/changes/achievements - > when exactly began and when exactly ended) © if and when employed - > which date you received new of employment and which date join work. (D) > Father's profession. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ================================================================= > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote: > > > > -i think no. > > > > i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that > > some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no > > info abt dietys) > > > > my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just > > completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health > > problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3- 4 > > papers during my studies (btech) > > for exat dates of that i have to search > > > > if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u > > > > > > > > -- In sohamsa , " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Srimaan Revathi, > > > > > > Namaskar. Has your > > family > > > been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately > > > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with > > proper > > > dates). > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > =============================================================== > > > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > -dear sourav, > > > > my birth data ia given below > > > > dob:12 june 1985 > > > > tob: 5-20 pm > > > > place:kannur kerala > > > > sex:male > > > > > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > > > Namaskar. It is similar to > > > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa > > Chakra. In > > > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more > > grahas > > > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one > > > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord. > > > > > > > > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively > > > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So > > this > > > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is > > better > > > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be > > sure > > > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. > > If > > > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your > > birth > > > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > ===================================================================== > > = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " > > <jayachandran > > > > _revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety) > > > > > > > > > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects > > to 2 > > > > nd > > > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered?? > > > > > > > > > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within > > > > seconds > > > > > > so > > > > > > is there any other method? or > > > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds) > > > > > > > > > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be > > a > > > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik > > etc). > > > > > > > > > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the > > bhav > > > > also? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --i- In sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > Family > > > > > > deity > > > > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing > > Kula in > > > > > > Vimsamsa > > > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart > > shows > > > > Guru > > > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================================ > > > > > > > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " > > > > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out > > > > family > > > > > > diety > > > > > > > > from ones chart? > > > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or > > > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or > > > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Visti, Thanks for your mail and as per D-20 chart interpretaion, then Lagna is Meena, 2nd house is Mesha where no planet is there but has Rashi drishties of Kuja, Shani (V),Debilitated Chandra ,Surya and Guru.Then you have to find which planet is stronger out of all these planets.But instead of that if we consider 4th house which also indicates Kula Devatha apart from other Karakattwas,then we can get the accurate Kula Devatha.in my natal chart, Lagna is Makara,so 4th house is Mesha and its lord Kuja is in 10th in Digbala in Tula Rashi in Vishaka Nakshatra ruled by Guru.This means Kuja in odd sign indicating Sri Nrusimha and Nakshatra ruler Guru who is in swakshetra indicates Lakshmi Sahita ( Tula is the Moola Trikona for Shukra whose deity is Sri Lakshmi )Guru Nrusimha ( Of Saligrama )who is my Kula Devatha. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Visti Larsen <visti wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramadas Rao, Namaskar The fourth house specifically indicates 'Bandhu' whilst the second house is 'Kula'. Thus the Kula devata is found from the second house in Vimsamsa. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramadas Rao18 September 2006 10:00sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: family deity OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Jayachandran, 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula Devatha.In your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by Shukra and Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru (V) who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping that Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity.Now Ketu is with Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra and he aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female neecha deity like Raktheshwari,Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with Naaga.Normally in Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from generations. Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in your family ?? I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.jayachandran_revathi <jayachandran_revathi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: -i think no.i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no info abt dietys)my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 papers during my studies (btech) for exat dates of that i have to search if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u -- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote:>> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > Dear Srimaan Revathi,> > Namaskar. Has your family> been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately> correct. Please provide some information on your education (with proper> dates).> > Best wishes,> > Sourav> > ===============================================================> sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> >> > -dear sourav,> > my birth data ia given below> > dob:12 june 1985> > tob: 5-20 pm> > place:kannur kerala> > sex:male> >> > regards jayachandran> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@> > wrote:> > >> > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > >> > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > Namaskar. It is similar to> > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa Chakra. In> > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more grahas> > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one> > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord.> > >> > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively> > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So this> > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is better> > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be sure> > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. If> > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your birth> > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Sourav> > >> > ======================================================================> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi" <jayachandran> > _revathi@> wrote:> > > >> > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety)> > > >> > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects to 2> > nd> > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered??> > > >> > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within> > seconds> > > > so> > > > is there any other method? or> > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds)> > > >> > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be a> > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik etc).> > > >> > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the bhav> > also?> > > >> > > >> > > > regards jayachandran> > > >> > > >> > > > --i- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > >> > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > >> > > > > Namaskar.> > Family> > > > deity> > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing Kula in> > > > Vimsamsa> > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart shows> > Guru> > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata.> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Sourav> > > > >> > > > > ================================================================> > > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > hello,> > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out> > family> > > > diety> > > > > > from ones chart?> > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or> > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or> > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Ramadas Rao, Namaskar. If Mars lords your second house in D20, then don't you think Sri Narasimha is also indicated there? You have referred to your rasi chart to find the kula devata. Our Guruji Sanjay Rath's kula devata is Sri Somanatha, yet in his Rasi chart the fourth house is Mithuna housing Rahu, whilst Budha is in Simha alone. This would indicate devatas such as Durga or Sri Vishnu/Jagannatha. However, if we analyze the second house in Vimsamsa, rightly so Surya is placed there. Normally the fourth house shows the Grama Devata (deity of the village/town). In the chart of Guruji, the fourth house in Vimsamsa houses Mercury showing Sri Vishnu/Jagannatha as the devata. I hope this helps. Best wishes, Visti Larsen Email: visti For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Ramadas Rao wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Visti, Thanks for your mail and as per D-20 chart interpretaion, then Lagna is Meena, 2nd house is Mesha where no planet is there but has Rashi drishties of Kuja, Shani (V),Debilitated Chandra ,Surya and Guru.Then you have to find which planet is stronger out of all these planets.But instead of that if we consider 4th house which also indicates Kula Devatha apart from other Karakattwas, then we can get the accurate Kula Devatha.in my natal chart, Lagna is Makara,so 4th house is Mesha and its lord Kuja is in 10th in Digbala in Tula Rashi in Vishaka Nakshatra ruled by Guru.This means Kuja in odd sign indicating Sri Nrusimha and Nakshatra ruler Guru who is in swakshetra indicates Lakshmi Sahita ( Tula is the Moola Trikona for Shukra whose deity is Sri Lakshmi )Guru Nrusimha ( Of Saligrama )who is my Kula Devatha. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramadas Rao, Namaskar The fourth house specifically indicates 'Bandhu' whilst the second house is 'Kula'. Thus the Kula devata is found from the second house in Vimsamsa. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com *** sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On Behalf Of Ramadas Rao 18 September 2006 10:00 sohamsa@ .com Re: Re: family deity OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Jayachandran, 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula Devatha.In your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by Shukra and Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru (V) who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping that Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity.Now Ketu is with Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra and he aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female neecha deity like Raktheshwari, Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with Naaga.Normally in Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from generations. Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in your family ?? I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. jayachandran_ revathi <jayachandran_ revathi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: -i think no. i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no info abt dietys) my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 papers during my studies (btech) for exat dates of that i have to search if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u -- In sohamsa@ ..com, "Sourav" <souravc108@ ...> wrote: > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > Dear Srimaan Revathi, > > Namaskar. Has your family > been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with proper > dates). > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ====== > sohamsa@ ..com, "jayachandran_ revathi" > <jayachandran_ revathi@> wrote: > > > > -dear sourav, > > my birth data ia given below > > dob:12 june 1985 > > tob: 5-20 pm > > place:kannur kerala > > sex:male > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In sohamsa@ ..com, Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@ > > wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > Namaskar. It is similar to > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa Chakra. In > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more grahas > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord. > > > > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So this > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is better > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be sure > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. If > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your birth > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ ..com, "jayachandran_ revathi" <jayachandran > > _revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety) > > > > > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects to 2 > > nd > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered?? > > > > > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within > > seconds > > > > so > > > > is there any other method? or > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds) > > > > > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be a > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik etc). > > > > > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the bhav > > also? > > > > > > > > > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > --i- In sohamsa@ ..com, "Sourav" <souravc108@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > Family > > > > deity > > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing Kula in > > > > Vimsamsa > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart shows > > Guru > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======= > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "jayachandran_ revathi" > > > > > <jayachandran_ revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out > > family > > > > diety > > > > > > from ones chart? > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 -- dear vistiji i would like to point out some points,which my limited knowledge suggests(feel free to correct me if i am wrong) in my case ,we follow a maternal family system from generations. so i feel that while predicting family diety 4th lord gives better results in many cases the d20 lagna changes with seconds and it will be a togh task to fix the lagna i feel kula meens more to community than to family (pls give ur opinion) the words like , kuladevatha, paradevatha, dharmadevatha(dharmadaivam) ,palanadevatha are often confusing can u give an insight to these terms.i dont have a sanskrit dictionary with me to understand the root words regards - In sohamsa , " Visti Larsen " <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Ramadas Rao, Namaskar > The fourth house specifically indicates 'Bandhu' whilst the second house is > 'Kula'. Thus the Kula devata is found from the second house in Vimsamsa. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > <http://srigaruda.com/> http://srigaruda.com > *** > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of > Ramadas Rao > 18 September 2006 10:00 > sohamsa > Re: Re: family deity > > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH > OM NAMO NARAYANAYA > Dear Jayachandran, > 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula Devatha.In > your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by Shukra and > Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it > indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru > (V) who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping > that Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity. Now Ketu > is with Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra > and he aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female > neecha deity like Raktheshwari,Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with > Naaga.Normally in Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from > generations. > Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in your > family ?? > I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > jayachandran_revathi <jayachandran_revathi wrote: > > -i think no. > > i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that > some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no > info abt dietys) > > my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just > completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health > problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 > papers during my studies (btech) > for exat dates of that i have to search > > if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u > > -- In sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com, " Sourav " > <souravc108@> wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > Dear Srimaan Revathi, > > > > Namaskar. Has your > family > > been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately > > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with > proper > > dates). > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > =============================================================== > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> . com, > " jayachandran_revathi " > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > -dear sourav, > > > my birth data ia given below > > > dob:12 june 1985 > > > tob: 5-20 pm > > > place:kannur kerala > > > sex:male > > > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> . com, > Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > > Namaskar. It is similar to > > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa > Chakra. In > > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more > grahas > > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one > > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord. > > > > > > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively > > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So > this > > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is > better > > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be > sure > > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. > If > > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your > birth > > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > ===================================================================== > = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com, > " jayachandran_revathi " > <jayachandran > > > _revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety) > > > > > > > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects > to 2 > > > nd > > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered?? > > > > > > > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within > > > seconds > > > > > so > > > > > is there any other method? or > > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds) > > > > > > > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be > a > > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik > etc). > > > > > > > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the > bhav > > > also? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --i- In sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40. com> .com, > " Sourav " <souravc108@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > Family > > > > > deity > > > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing > Kula in > > > > > Vimsamsa > > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart > shows > > > Guru > > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================================ > > > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40. com> > .com, " jayachandran_revathi " > > > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out > > > family > > > > > diety > > > > > > > from ones chart? > > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or > > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or > > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > Find out what India is talking about on - > <http://us.rd./mail/in/yanswers/*http://in.answers.. com/> > Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear ? (you didn't sign your name), Whether or not you follow a maternal system of kula-devata, this is still seen from the second house. Since Kula devata is a sensitive point in the horoscope, we rectify the charts based on this. The Kula devata has followed your family for generations to ensure its well being and is not a very common occurrence in peoples the charts. Its also from Vimsamsa that we ascertain whether or not any spirituality in the family and the person exists. Kula means a flock, herd or family. Its often linked to Gotra where people have come together under the shelter of a rishi to guide themselves through life. This go-shala and kula is seen from the second house in the chart. Palana means protector. It refers to the deity who will protect the native in their life. Commonly its associated with ones profession, career and life in the social scheme, but really its the deity which ensures that you will not go hungry. This is seen from the sixth from Amatyakaraka in navamsa. Dharma-Devata is the deity who will establish dharma in your life. In many cases this also refers to the Diksha Guru who gives the native initiation to establish a path and a set of sacred codes in the native. For this reason this is also called vigyana-amsa (higher/spiritual/special knowledge). This is seen from the ninth from karakamsa. Where have you heard the term Para-devata? Best wishes, Visti Larsen Email: visti For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com jayachandran_revathi wrote: -- dear vistiji i would like to point out some points,which my limited knowledge suggests(feel free to correct me if i am wrong) in my case ,we follow a maternal family system from generations. so i feel that while predicting family diety 4th lord gives better results in many cases the d20 lagna changes with seconds and it will be a togh task to fix the lagna i feel kula meens more to community than to family (pls give ur opinion) the words like , kuladevatha, paradevatha, dharmadevatha( dharmadaivam) ,palanadevatha are often confusing can u give an insight to these terms.i dont have a sanskrit dictionary with me to understand the root words regards - In sohamsa@ ..com, "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Ramadas Rao, Namaskar > The fourth house specifically indicates 'Bandhu' whilst the second house is > 'Kula'. Thus the Kula devata is found from the second house in Vimsamsa. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > <http://srigaruda. com/> http://srigaruda. com > *** > > > _____ > > sohamsa@ ..com [sohamsa@ ..com] On Behalf Of > Ramadas Rao > 18 September 2006 10:00 > sohamsa@ ..com > Re: Re: family deity > > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH > OM NAMO NARAYANAYA > Dear Jayachandran, > 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula Devatha.In > your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by Shukra and > Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it > indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru > (V) who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping > that Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity. Now Ketu > is with Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra > and he aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female > neecha deity like Raktheshwari, Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with > Naaga.Normally in Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from > generations. > Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in your > family ?? > I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > jayachandran_ revathi <jayachandran_ revathi@. ..> wrote: > > -i think no. > > i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that > some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no > info abt dietys) > > my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just > completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health > problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 > papers during my studies (btech) > for exat dates of that i have to search > > if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u > > -- In sohamsa@ <sohamsa% 40. com> .com, " Sourav" > <souravc108@ > wrote: > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > Dear Srimaan Revathi, > > > > Namaskar. Has your > family > > been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately > > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with > proper > > dates). > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Sourav > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ====== > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa% 40. com> . com, > "jayachandran_ revathi" > > <jayachandran_ revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > -dear sourav, > > > my birth data ia given below > > > dob:12 june 1985 > > > tob: 5-20 pm > > > place:kannur kerala > > > sex:male > > > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In sohamsa@ <sohamsa% 40. com> . com, > Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > > Namaskar. It is similar to > > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa > Chakra. In > > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more > grahas > > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one > > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord. > > > > > > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively > > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So > this > > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is > better > > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be > sure > > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. > If > > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your > birth > > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === > = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa% 40. com> ..com, > "jayachandran_ revathi" > <jayachandran > > > _revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety) > > > > > > > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects > to 2 > > > nd > > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered?? > > > > > > > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within > > > seconds > > > > > so > > > > > is there any other method? or > > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds) > > > > > > > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be > a > > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik > etc). > > > > > > > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the > bhav > > > also? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --i- In sohamsa@ <sohamsa% 40. com> .com, > "Sourav" <souravc108@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > Family > > > > > deity > > > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing > Kula in > > > > > Vimsamsa > > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart > shows > > > Guru > > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ======= > > > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa% 40. com> > .com, "jayachandran_ revathi" > > > > > > <jayachandran_ revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out > > > family > > > > > diety > > > > > > > from ones chart? > > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or > > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or > > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > Find out what India is talking about on - > <http://us.rd. / mail/in/yanswers /*http:// in.answers. . com/> > Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Jayachandran, Thanks for your mail.If we study Prashna Margam,then we can get all kind of deities worshipped in Kerala and other parts of India. Now my question is when the ancestor's temple have been destroyed many hundred years before,then the next generation elders would have gone to a expert Astrologer who can perform Ashtamangala Prashna and solved the problems.Anyhow let me go through deep into your chart and also please send the birth details of your maternal uncle.but you have to give me sometime to solve your Family Deity problem. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.jayachandran_revathi <jayachandran_revathi wrote: --dear ramdaas jiyou have very sound knowledge in dietys worshiped in kerala.(i never expected an outside keralite to mention these types of dietys).earlier during my school days i never believed in astrology and such things.when i got interest in it,i started examining the charts of everyone in our family.to my surprise i noticed that every one in family suffers from bad sukra.as i sufferd hardly due to my 6th sukra i started thinking of remedy.it was believed that we lost our family temple during a war time (when tipu attacked kerala and destructed most of the temples of north kerala )kindly note that we follow a maternal family system in contrast to other parts of the country.can u confirm the diety.i can also give the birth data of other members of my family the birth details are1.dob: october 5th 1954tob:19: 40kannur keralafemale2.march 21 1976tob:19:17kannur keralamaledo u think prasna mode is easy to answer such queris?regards jayachandran- In sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> OM NAMO NARAYANAYA> Dear Jayachandran,> 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula Devatha.In your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by Shukra and Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru (V) who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping that Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity.Now Ketu is with Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra and he aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female neecha deity like Raktheshwari,Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with Naaga.Normally in Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from generations.> Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in your family ??> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > jayachandran_revathi <jayachandran_revathi wrote:> -i think no.> > i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that > some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no > info abt dietys)> > my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just > completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health > problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 > papers during my studies (btech) > for exat dates of that i have to search > > if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u > > -- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108@> wrote:> >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Srimaan Revathi,> > > > Namaskar. Has your > family> > been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately> > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with > proper> > dates).> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ===============================================================> > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > >> > > -dear sourav,> > > my birth data ia given below> > > dob:12 june 1985> > > tob: 5-20 pm> > > place:kannur kerala> > > sex:male> > >> > > regards jayachandran> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > >> > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > Namaskar. It is similar to> > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa > Chakra. In> > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more > grahas> > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one> > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord.> > > >> > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively> > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So > this> > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is > better> > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be > sure> > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. > If> > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your > birth> > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data.> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > >> > > > Sourav> > > >> > > > =====================================================================> => > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi" > <jayachandran> > > _revathi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety)> > > > >> > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects > to 2> > > nd> > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered??> > > > >> > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within> > > seconds> > > > > so> > > > > is there any other method? or> > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds)> > > > >> > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be > a> > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik > etc).> > > > >> > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the > bhav> > > also?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > regards jayachandran> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --i- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108@> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Namaskar.> > > Family> > > > > deity> > > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing > Kula in> > > > > Vimsamsa> > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart > shows> > > Guru> > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata.> > > > > >> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > Sourav> > > > > >> > > > > > > ================================================================> > > > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > hello,> > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out> > > family> > > > > diety> > > > > > > from ones chart?> > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or> > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or> > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW> Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Sri Ramadas-ji, Pranaam. If 2nd house in Vimsamsa is empty, then we should take its lord Lord has a stronger influence than aspectors. Here in your case, 2nd house is empty and has Mesha rasi. So we take its lord Mangal. Further, Mangal is aspecting own house so that is even a stronger influence. This determines your Kula devata as Sri Narasimha Deva. If Mangal is influenced by Shukra, then Lakshmi -sahita. Kindly comment. Kindly provide your data so that I can study. I have given my data to you. Please explain from Rasi Chart's 4th house how to arrive at Kula Devata as Radha-Madhava (My Kula Devata). In my Vimsamsa, 2nd is empty and second lord is Rahu with Ketu in the 7th house of Karka Rasi. Rahu-Ketu is fully aspected by Chandra and Shukra and Chandra is the dispositor of Rahu-Ketu. This can indicate Radha-Madhava. Best wishes, Sourav =============================================================================================================sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> Dear Visti,> Thanks for your mail and as per D-20 chart interpretaion, then Lagna is Meena, 2nd house is Mesha where no planet is there but has Rashi drishties of Kuja, Shani (V),Debilitated Chandra ,Surya and Guru.Then you have to find which planet is stronger out of all these planets.But instead of that if we consider 4th house which also indicates Kula Devatha apart from other Karakattwas,then we can get the accurate Kula Devatha.in my natal chart, Lagna is Makara,so 4th house is Mesha and its lord Kuja is in 10th in Digbala in Tula Rashi in Vishaka Nakshatra ruled by Guru.This means Kuja in odd sign indicating Sri Nrusimha and Nakshatra ruler Guru who is in swakshetra indicates Lakshmi Sahita ( Tula is the Moola Trikona for Shukra whose deity is Sri Lakshmi )Guru Nrusimha ( Of Saligrama )who is my Kula Devatha.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > > Visti Larsen visti wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Ramadas Rao, Namaskar> The fourth house specifically indicates 'Bandhu' whilst the second house is 'Kula'. Thus the Kula devata is found from the second house in Vimsamsa.> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramadas Rao> 18 September 2006 10:00> sohamsa > Re: Re: family deity> > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> OM NAMO NARAYANAYA> Dear Jayachandran,> 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula Devatha.In your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by Shukra and Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru (V) who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping that Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity.Now Ketu is with Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra and he aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female neecha deity like Raktheshwari,Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with Naaga.Normally in Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from generations.> Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in your family ??> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > jayachandran_revathi jayachandran_revathi wrote:> -i think no.> > i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that > some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no > info abt dietys)> > my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just > completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health > problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 > papers during my studies (btech) > for exat dates of that i have to search > > if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u > > -- In sohamsa , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Srimaan Revathi,> > > > Namaskar. Has your > family> > been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately> > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with > proper> > dates).> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ===============================================================> > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > >> > > -dear sourav,> > > my birth data ia given below> > > dob:12 june 1985> > > tob: 5-20 pm> > > place:kannur kerala> > > sex:male> > >> > > regards jayachandran> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > >> > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > Namaskar. It is similar to> > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa > Chakra. In> > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more > grahas> > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one> > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord.> > > >> > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively> > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So > this> > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is > better> > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be > sure> > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. > If> > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your > birth> > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data.> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > >> > > > Sourav> > > >> > > > =====================================================================> => > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi" > <jayachandran> > > _revathi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety)> > > > >> > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects > to 2> > > nd> > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered??> > > > >> > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within> > > seconds> > > > > so> > > > > is there any other method? or> > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds)> > > > >> > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be > a> > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik > etc).> > > > >> > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the > bhav> > > also?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > regards jayachandran> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --i- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108@> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Namaskar.> > > Family> > > > > deity> > > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing > Kula in> > > > > Vimsamsa> > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart > shows> > > Guru> > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata.> > > > > >> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > Sourav> > > > > >> > > > > > > ================================================================> > > > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > hello,> > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out> > > family> > > > > diety> > > > > > > from ones chart?> > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or> > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or> > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 namassarvebhyah Dear Shri Ramadas Rao, How far back do we go to determine the family deity. In dharma shastra, we see rules such as " if a brahmin family has not recited gayatri for three-generations, they become brahmana-bandhu-s only " . Does this kind of logic apply to the current discussion? If a deity has not been worshipped for many generations, are they still considered the family deity? Is it fair to say that when we look at family deities, we should only look at the past x number of generations? ajit On 9/19/06, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH > OM NAMO NARAYANAYA > Dear Jayachandran, > > Thanks for your mail.If we study Prashna Margam,then we can get all kind of deities worshipped in Kerala and other parts of India. > Now my question is when the ancestor's temple have been destroyed many hundred years before,then the next generation elders would have gone to a expert Astrologer who can perform Ashtamangala Prashna and solved the problems.Anyhow let me go through deep into your chart and also please send the birth details of your maternal uncle.but you have to give me sometime to solve your Family Deity problem. > > I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Ajit, Thanks for your mail.A Family deity is being worshipped from the beginning of a generation and due to some reasons ( Karmic ) the worship has been stopped by the last X generations,then it can be said there will be anger of Family deity.Normally such kind of anomalies can be found out through Ashtamangala Prashna. In the meanwhile say,3 generations before,if the family has adopted another religion,then also the anger of family Deity can be seen.the changing of religion will not leave such persons from their original ancestor's Family Deity.Here Dharma Shastra is to be considered mainly for performing of Vratas,festivals, Shraddhas etc.Suppose if a person being a Brahmin has stopped chanting Gayatri Mantra,but staying in Brahmin religion,then his next generations will get anger of Gayatri Mother . Now let me explain about my family.My grandfather had 3 brothers and after his death, the properties got divided and allotted to all the 4 brothers families along with the Poojas or Festivals which were continued from generations.So for my father, the allottment of dali Pooja of family Deities which consists of Gopalakrisha Saligrama,Vasudeva Saligrama,Sankarshana Saligrama, Nrusimha Saligrama,Sudarshana Chakra ,metallic idols of Shri Lakshmi Narayana, Sri Satya Narayana, Lord Hanuman, Sri Garuda,Naaga and Mother Saraswati.So we have to perform daily Poojas to these Deities along with Nivedya.For other brothers of my grandfather, performing of Ganesh Chaturthi,performing special Poojas for Mother Durga,Performing of Shri Durga Deepa Namaskara Pooja and Vasantha Pooja during Chaitra month every year.Now the question if these Poojas are being performed by all or not.Some stopped doing the Poojas given to them and as a result the next children born in their family suffered a lot of problems including madness,unnatural death,mental retardness,severe incurable diseases etc.But in my house the Pooja of the said Idols and Saligramas are still continued even I am here in Kuwait.Now finally the remeaining memebers of those other brothers' family of my grandfather started performing the Poojas given to them during the property division and slowly prosperity is seen now.The above is the following as per Dharma Shastras.But the family Deity worship is for all the members of the generation.So we have to see atleast 6 generations regarding family Deity worship. The above are my opinions and other may have their own opinion. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Ajit Krishnan <ajit.krishnan wrote: namassarvebhyahDear Shri Ramadas Rao,How far back do we go to determine the family deity. In dharmashastra, we see rules such as "if a brahmin family has not recitedgayatri for three-generations, they become brahmana-bandhu-s only".Does this kind of logic apply to the current discussion? If a deityhas not been worshipped for many generations, are they stillconsidered the family deity? Is it fair to say that when we look atfamily deities, we should only look at the past x number ofgenerations?ajitOn 9/19/06, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> OM NAMO NARAYANAYA> Dear Jayachandran,>> Thanks for your mail.If we study Prashna Margam,then we can get all kind of deities worshipped in Kerala and other parts of India.> Now my question is when the ancestor's temple have been destroyed many hundred years before,then the next generation elders would have gone to a expert Astrologer who can perform Ashtamangala Prashna and solved the problems.Anyhow let me go through deep into your chart and also please send the birth details of your maternal uncle.but you have to give me sometime to solve your Family Deity problem.>> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,>> Ramadas Rao. Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Sourav, Thanks for your mail.My birth details are available in previous mails in SOHAMSA Group.Anyhow for your information, I provide my birth details : DOB : 23/03/1952,TOB : 3:35:39 Hrs.Time Zone : 5:30 Hrs. east of GMT,Lat.: 12 deg.58'59" N and Long.: 74 Deg.46'59". In my D-20 chart,Shukra and Chandra are debilitated.This is for your information. Now coming to your chart,4th house lord is Budha who is in Vrischika Rashi in the Nakshatra of Jyeshta ruled by Budha himself indicating Vishnu Avatar.Now Budha's sign dispositor is Kuja who is Vakra in Karka Rashi, so he gives the results of exalted Kuja.thus he becomes strong in Kataka whose sign lord is Chandra.Chandra is debilitated in Vrischika.Vrischika is a female sign and so a female deity is associated with Vishnu Avatar.So Budha in Vrischika Rashi behaves like a debilitated Chandra as Budha is debilitated in Navamsha.This gives an indication of Lord Krishna.So the deity is Krishna ( Madhava ) with Radha. Now coming to your D-20 chart,Lagna is Makara and 2nd house is empty and it has Rashi Drishti of Rahu from Karka Rashi.Shani (V) also throws his Rashi Drishti over Kumbha Rashi But Shani is weak compared to Rahu as Rahu is exalted in Navamsha.Now Rahu is in Karka Rashi whose sign dispositor Chandra is exalted along with Shukra in Vrishabha.So it is very clear that your Family deity is Lord Krishna ( Madhava ) along with his consort Radha ( Lakshmi ). I hope the above explanation clarified your doubts. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Sourav <souravc108 wrote: || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Sri Ramadas-ji, Pranaam. If 2nd house in Vimsamsa is empty, then we should take its lord Lord has a stronger influence than aspectors. Here in your case, 2nd house is empty and has Mesha rasi. So we take its lord Mangal. Further, Mangal is aspecting own house so that is even a stronger influence. This determines your Kula devata as Sri Narasimha Deva. If Mangal is influenced by Shukra, then Lakshmi -sahita. Kindly comment. Kindly provide your data so that I can study. I have given my data to you. Please explain from Rasi Chart's 4th house how to arrive at Kula Devata as Radha-Madhava (My Kula Devata). In my Vimsamsa, 2nd is empty and second lord is Rahu with Ketu in the 7th house of Karka Rasi. Rahu-Ketu is fully aspected by Chandra and Shukra and Chandra is the dispositor of Rahu-Ketu. This can indicate Radha-Madhava. Best wishes, Sourav =============================================================================================================sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> Dear Visti,> Thanks for your mail and as per D-20 chart interpretaion, then Lagna is Meena, 2nd house is Mesha where no planet is there but has Rashi drishties of Kuja, Shani (V),Debilitated Chandra ,Surya and Guru.Then you have to find which planet is stronger out of all these planets.But instead of that if we consider 4th house which also indicates Kula Devatha apart from other Karakattwas,then we can get the accurate Kula Devatha.in my natal chart, Lagna is Makara,so 4th house is Mesha and its lord Kuja is in 10th in Digbala in Tula Rashi in Vishaka Nakshatra ruled by Guru.This means Kuja in odd sign indicating Sri Nrusimha and Nakshatra ruler Guru who is in swakshetra indicates Lakshmi Sahita ( Tula is the Moola Trikona for Shukra whose deity is Sri Lakshmi )Guru Nrusimha ( Of Saligrama )who is my Kula Devatha.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > > Visti Larsen visti wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Ramadas Rao, Namaskar> The fourth house specifically indicates 'Bandhu' whilst the second house is 'Kula'. Thus the Kula devata is found from the second house in Vimsamsa.> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramadas Rao> 18 September 2006 10:00> sohamsa > Re: Re: family deity> > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> OM NAMO NARAYANAYA> Dear Jayachandran,> 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula Devatha.In your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by Shukra and Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru (V) who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping that Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity.Now Ketu is with Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra and he aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female neecha deity like Raktheshwari,Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with Naaga.Normally in Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from generations.> Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in your family ??> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > jayachandran_revathi jayachandran_revathi wrote:> -i think no.> > i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that > some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no > info abt dietys)> > my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just > completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health > problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 > papers during my studies (btech) > for exat dates of that i have to search > > if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u > > -- In sohamsa , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Srimaan Revathi,> > > > Namaskar. Has your > family> > been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately> > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with > proper> > dates).> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ===============================================================> > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > >> > > -dear sourav,> > > my birth data ia given below> > > dob:12 june 1985> > > tob: 5-20 pm> > > place:kannur kerala> > > sex:male> > >> > > regards jayachandran> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > >> > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > Namaskar. It is similar to> > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa > Chakra. In> > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more > grahas> > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one> > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord.> > > >> > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively> > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So > this> > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is > better> > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be > sure> > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. > If> > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your > birth> > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data.> > > >> > > > Best wishes,> > > >> > > > Sourav> > > >> > > > =====================================================================> => > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi" > <jayachandran> > > _revathi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety)> > > > >> > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects > to 2> > > nd> > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered??> > > > >> > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within> > > seconds> > > > > so> > > > > is there any other method? or> > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds)> > > > >> > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be > a> > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik > etc).> > > > >> > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the > bhav> > > also?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > regards jayachandran> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --i- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108@> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Namaskar.> > > Family> > > > > deity> > > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing > Kula in> > > > > Vimsamsa> > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart > shows> > > Guru> > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata.> > > > > >> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > Sourav> > > > > >> > > > > > > ================================================================> > > > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > hello,> > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out> > > family> > > > > diety> > > > > > > from ones chart?> > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or> > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or> > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Dear Sri Ramadas, Thank you. ajit On 9/22/06, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Ajit, Thanks for your mail.A Family deity is being worshipped from the beginning of a generation and due to some reasons ( Karmic ) the worship has been stopped by the last X generations,then it can be said there will be anger of Family deity.Normally such kind of anomalies can be found out through Ashtamangala Prashna. In the meanwhile say,3 generations before,if the family has adopted another religion,then also the anger of family Deity can be seen.the changing of religion will not leave such persons from their original ancestor's Family Deity.Here Dharma Shastra is to be considered mainly for performing of Vratas,festivals, Shraddhas etc.Suppose if a person being a Brahmin has stopped chanting Gayatri Mantra,but staying in Brahmin religion,then his next generations will get anger of Gayatri Mother . Now let me explain about my family.My grandfather had 3 brothers and after his death, the properties got divided and allotted to all the 4 brothers families along with the Poojas or Festivals which were continued from generations.So for my father, the allottment of dali Pooja of family Deities which consists of Gopalakrisha Saligrama,Vasudeva Saligrama,Sankarshana Saligrama, Nrusimha Saligrama,Sudarshana Chakra ,metallic idols of Shri Lakshmi Narayana, Sri Satya Narayana, Lord Hanuman, Sri Garuda,Naaga and Mother Saraswati.So we have to perform daily Poojas to these Deities along with Nivedya.For other brothers of my grandfather, performing of Ganesh Chaturthi,performing special Poojas for Mother Durga,Performing of Shri Durga Deepa Namaskara Pooja and Vasantha Pooja during Chaitra month every year.Now the question if these Poojas are being performed by all or not.Some stopped doing the Poojas given to them and as a result the next children born in their family suffered a lot of problems including madness,unnatural death,mental retardness,severe incurable diseases etc.But in my house the Pooja of the said Idols and Saligramas are still continued even I am here in Kuwait.Now finally the remeaining memebers of those other brothers' family of my grandfather started performing the Poojas given to them during the property division and slowly prosperity is seen now.The above is the following as per Dharma Shastras.But the family Deity worship is for all the members of the generation.So we have to see atleast 6 generations regarding family Deity worship. The above are my opinions and other may have their own opinion. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Ajit Krishnan <ajit.krishnan > wrote: namassarvebhyahDear Shri Ramadas Rao,How far back do we go to determine the family deity. In dharmashastra, we see rules such as " if a brahmin family has not recitedgayatri for three-generations, they become brahmana-bandhu-s only " . Does this kind of logic apply to the current discussion? If a deityhas not been worshipped for many generations, are they stillconsidered the family deity? Is it fair to say that when we look atfamily deities, we should only look at the past x number of generations?ajitOn 9/19/06, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:> > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> OM NAMO NARAYANAYA> Dear Jayachandran,>> Thanks for your mail.If we study Prashna Margam,then we can get all kind of deities worshipped in Kerala and other parts of India. > Now my question is when the ancestor's temple have been destroyed many hundred years before,then the next generation elders would have gone to a expert Astrologer who can perform Ashtamangala Prashna and solved the problems.Anyhow let me go through deep into your chart and also please send the birth details of your maternal uncle.but you have to give me sometime to solve your Family Deity problem.>> I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,>> Ramadas Rao. Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Sri Ramadas-ji, Pranaam. Thank you for sharing your info. I have saved it now. In my chart, Chandra is not in Vrischika but Chandra is in Tula (vargottama) per Lahiri Ayanaamsa. Also between Kuja and Ketu, do you think sign dispositor of Budha should be Ketu being in moolatrikona and also aspected by Guru, its sign-dispositor rather than Mangal ? I am not sure why you took sign-dispositor's sign-dispositor. Kindly explain. In your chart, Mangal is lord of 4th house is Rasi and 2nd house (empty) in Vimsamsa. This shows Lord Nrusimha. However, Lakshmi-sahita is more clearly seen from the Rasi Chart than the Vimsamsa Chart. Mangal's sign dispositor in Rasi and Navamsa is Shukra and aspects 4th house and 4th lord in the Rasi chart. But in Navamsa, there is no clear connection with Shukra to the 6th house although Shukra's sign dispositor is aspecting Mangal. Debilitated Chandra is also aspecting 2nd house showing a female deity (Mother Form) worshipped. In your chart, HL is in the 12-th house, AK Chandra is in the lagna and in the 5th house in Navamsa (Kanya is Rasi's 9th house) and is lord of 5th in Vimsamsa debilitated in the 9th house. This shows great focus of spirituality and submission to Ishtadevata. You are truly great sadhaka. Please forgive our follies in argument. I am merely trying to clear my conception. Best wishes, Sourav =========================================================================================================== sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> Dear Sourav,> Thanks for your mail.My birth details are available in previous mails in SOHAMSA Group.Anyhow for your information, I provide my birth details : DOB : 23/03/1952,TOB : 3:35:39 Hrs.Time Zone : 5:30 Hrs. east of GMT,Lat.: 12 deg.58'59" N and Long.: 74 Deg.46'59".> In my D-20 chart,Shukra and Chandra are debilitated.This is for your information.> Now coming to your chart,4th house lord is Budha who is in Vrischika Rashi in the Nakshatra of Jyeshta ruled by Budha himself indicating Vishnu Avatar.Now Budha's sign dispositor is Kuja who is Vakra in Karka Rashi, so he gives the results of exalted Kuja.thus he becomes strong in Kataka whose sign lord is Chandra.Chandra is debilitated in Vrischika.Vrischika is a female sign and so a female deity is associated with Vishnu Avatar.So Budha in Vrischika Rashi behaves like a debilitated Chandra as Budha is debilitated in Navamsha.This gives an indication of Lord Krishna.So the deity is Krishna ( Madhava ) with Radha.> Now coming to your D-20 chart,Lagna is Makara and 2nd house is empty and it has Rashi Drishti of Rahu from Karka Rashi.Shani (V) also throws his Rashi Drishti over Kumbha Rashi But Shani is weak compared to Rahu as Rahu is exalted in Navamsha.Now Rahu is in Karka Rashi whose sign dispositor Chandra is exalted along with Shukra in Vrishabha.So it is very clear that your Family deity is Lord Krishna ( Madhava ) along with his consort Radha ( Lakshmi ).> I hope the above explanation clarified your doubts.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > > > Sourav souravc108 wrote:> || Hare Raama Krsna ||> Dear Sri Ramadas-ji,> Pranaam. If 2nd house in Vimsamsa is empty, then we should take its lord Lord has a stronger influence than aspectors. Here in your case, 2nd house is empty and has Mesha rasi. So we take its lord Mangal. Further, Mangal is aspecting own house so that is even a stronger influence. This determines your Kula devata as Sri Narasimha Deva. If Mangal is influenced by Shukra, then Lakshmi -sahita. Kindly comment.> Kindly provide your data so that I can study. I have given my data to you. Please explain from Rasi Chart's 4th house how to arrive at Kula Devata as Radha-Madhava (My Kula Devata). In my Vimsamsa, 2nd is empty and second lord is Rahu with Ketu in the 7th house of Karka Rasi. Rahu-Ketu is fully aspected by Chandra and Shukra and Chandra is the dispositor of Rahu-Ketu. This can indicate Radha-Madhava.> Best wishes,> Sourav> =============================================================================================================> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao ramadasrao@ wrote:> >> > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > Dear Visti,> > Thanks for your mail and as per D-20 chart interpretaion, then Lagna is Meena, 2nd house is Mesha where no planet is there but has Rashi drishties of Kuja, Shani (V),Debilitated Chandra ,Surya and Guru.Then you have to find which planet is stronger out of all these planets.But instead of that if we consider 4th house which also indicates Kula Devatha apart from other Karakattwas,then we can get the accurate Kula Devatha.in my natal chart, Lagna is Makara,so 4th house is Mesha and its lord Kuja is in 10th in Digbala in Tula Rashi in Vishaka Nakshatra ruled by Guru.This means Kuja in odd sign indicating Sri Nrusimha and Nakshatra ruler Guru who is in swakshetra indicates Lakshmi Sahita ( Tula is the Moola Trikona for Shukra whose deity is Sri Lakshmi )Guru Nrusimha ( Of Saligrama )who is my Kula Devatha.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Ramadas Rao, Namaskar> > The fourth house specifically indicates 'Bandhu' whilst the second house is 'Kula'. Thus the Kula devata is found from the second house in Vimsamsa.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com> > > > ***> > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramadas Rao> > 18 September 2006 10:00> > sohamsa > > Re: Re: family deity> > > > > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > OM NAMO NARAYANAYA> > Dear Jayachandran,> > 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula Devatha.In your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by Shukra and Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru (V) who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping that Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity.Now Ketu is with Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra and he aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female neecha deity like Raktheshwari,Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with Naaga.Normally in Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from generations.> > Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in your family ??> > I hope this helps you.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > jayachandran_revathi jayachandran_revathi@ wrote:> > -i think no.> > > > i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that > > some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no > > info abt dietys)> > > > my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just > > completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health > > problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 > > papers during my studies (btech) > > for exat dates of that i have to search > > > > if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u > > > > -- In sohamsa , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> > >> > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > > > Dear Srimaan Revathi,> > > > > > Namaskar. Has your > > family> > > been worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately> > > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with > > proper> > > dates).> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > Sourav> > > > > > ===============================================================> > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > > >> > > > -dear sourav,> > > > my birth data ia given below> > > > dob:12 june 1985> > > > tob: 5-20 pm> > > > place:kannur kerala> > > > sex:male> > > >> > > > regards jayachandran> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > >> > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > > Namaskar. It is similar to> > > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa > > Chakra. In> > > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more > > grahas> > > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one> > > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord.> > > > >> > > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively> > > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So > > this> > > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is > > better> > > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be > > sure> > > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. > > If> > > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your > > birth> > > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data.> > > > >> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Sourav> > > > >> > > > > > =====================================================================> > => > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi" > > <jayachandran> > > > _revathi@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety)> > > > > >> > > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects > > to 2> > > > nd> > > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered??> > > > > >> > > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within> > > > seconds> > > > > > so> > > > > > is there any other method? or> > > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds)> > > > > >> > > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associated with them may be > > a> > > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik > > etc).> > > > > >> > > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the > > bhav> > > > also?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > regards jayachandran> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --i- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108@> > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaskar.> > > > Family> > > > > > deity> > > > > > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing > > Kula in> > > > > > Vimsamsa> > > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart > > shows> > > > Guru> > > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sourav> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ================================================================> > > > > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> > > > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > hello,> > > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out> > > > family> > > > > > diety> > > > > > > > from ones chart?> > > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or> > > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or> > > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Swee-ji, Namaskar. I find myself ineligible to talk about Sri Ramadas-ji's spirituality but I noticed a few convincing indications which I will tabulate here. (a) AK Chandra in Rasi Lagna aspecting 5th and 8th (Ketu) - Kundalini. Ketu/Mangal is also Guru Devata in Navamsa Lagna. (b) HL in the 12-th in Moolatrikona rasi of Guru showing deep and ernest desire of spirituality © Retrograde Lagna lord in trines to AK and in the 9th aspecting HL lord, and HL (d) AK in Navamsa in the 5th (dharmic) and disposited by BK who is with Navamsa Lagnesha (e) AK in yuti with Ishtakaraka Surya, who is lording 8th house in rasi (Sadhana) and conjoins BK Budha. (f) OK, now in Vimsamsa, Lagnesha is Guru in 12-th with and A9 and Ishtakaraka, Surya - total focus on spirituality and emancipation, and support from Ishta Devata. This also amounts to a parivartana as well. 9th lord Ketu is in Lagna. (g) AK owns the 5th house (devata/mantra/rasa) and is in debility in the 9th showing submission to Guru (under BK's aspect). Debility of AK in the Navamsa shows desire to live like a sadhu and in Vimsamsa, debility shows submission to Isha/Guru. Lord of 9th from the Pakalagna indicates the way out intellect is tuned and what philosophy we like in our spiritual quest. Shukra indicates bhakti-yoga. Shukra is also lord of the 7th from AK and indicates what the 'heart' seeks and it is also bhakti yoga. Debility shows submission. (h) If you do Rasi Tulya Vimsamsa, then BK-Budha is in lagna. In think this chart speaks for itself. Ramadasa-ji must have had many spiritual experiences and Kundalini experiences. Please forgive my mistakes. In my chart, Dasamsa Lagna as Kumbha seems correct for now and hence Vimsamsa is not changed. I wanted to know my drawbacks which are restricting my spiritual progress. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================= sohamsa , Swee Chan <sweechan wrote:>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya> > Dear Sourav,> Namaste> > In your chart, HL is in the 12-th house, AK Chandra is in the lagna and in> the 5th house in Navamsa (Kanya is Rasi's 9th house) and is lord of 5th in> Vimsamsa debilitated in the 9th house This shows great focus of> spirituality and submission to Ishtadevata. You are truly great sadhaka.> Please forgive our follies in argument. I am merely trying to clear my> conception.> > > > Best wishes,> > > Sourav> > If you don¹t mind, this seems to be a rather convoluted way of delineating.> I normally take the AK from Rasi and look at where its placed in Vimsamsa.> For yours, if you add +/- 26 sec, you¹ll have Mercury in the 5th in> Vimsamsa.> > Love,> > Swee> sweechan > > On 9/22/06 9:24 AM, "Sourav" souravc108 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Sri Ramadas-ji,> > > > Pranaam. Thank you for sharing> > your info. I have saved it now.> > > > In my chart, Chandra is not in Vrischika but Chandra is in Tula (vargottama)> > per Lahiri Ayanaamsa. Also between Kuja and Ketu, do you think sign dispositor> > of Budha should be Ketu being in moolatrikona and also aspected by Guru, its> > sign-dispositor rather than Mangal ? I am not sure why you took> > sign-dispositor's sign-dispositor. Kindly explain.> > > > In your chart, Mangal is lord of 4th house is Rasi and 2nd house (empty) in> > Vimsamsa. This shows Lord Nrusimha. However, Lakshmi-sahita is more clearly> > seen from the Rasi Chart than the Vimsamsa Chart. Mangal's sign dispositor in> > Rasi and Navamsa is Shukra and aspects 4th house and 4th lord in the Rasi> > chart. But in Navamsa, there is no clear connection with Shukra to the 6th> > house although Shukra's sign dispositor is aspecting Mangal. Debilitated> > Chandra is also aspecting 2nd house showing a female deity (Mother Form)> > worshipped. In your chart, HL is in the 12-th house, AK Chandra is in the> > lagna and in the 5th house in Navamsa (Kanya is Rasi's 9th house) and is lord> > of 5th in Vimsamsa debilitated in the 9th house. This shows great focus of> > spirituality and submission to Ishtadevata. You are truly great sadhaka.> > Please forgive our follies in argument. I am merely trying to clear my> > conception.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ==============================================================================> > =============================> > > > > > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao ramadasrao@ wrote:> >> >> >> > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> >> > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> >> > Dear Sourav,> >> > Thanks for your mail.My birth details are available in previous mails in> >> SOHAMSA Group.Anyhow for your information, I provide my birth details : DOB :> >> 23/03/1952,TOB : 3:35:39 Hrs.Time Zone : 5:30 Hrs. east of GMT,Lat.: 12> >> deg.58'59" N and Long.: 74 Deg.46'59".> >> > In my D-20 chart,Shukra and Chandra are debilitated.This is for your> >> information.> >> > Now coming to your chart,4th house lord is Budha who is in Vrischika Rashi> >> in the Nakshatra of Jyeshta ruled by Budha himself indicating Vishnu> >> Avatar.Now Budha's sign dispositor is Kuja who is Vakra in Karka Rashi, so he> >> gives the results of exalted Kuja.thus he becomes strong in Kataka whose sign> >> lord is Chandra.Chandra is debilitated in Vrischika.Vrischika is a female> >> sign and so a female deity is associated with Vis! hnu Avatar.So Budha in> >> Vrischika Rashi behaves like a debilitated Chandra as Budha is debilitated in> >> Navamsha.This gives an indication of Lord Krishna.So the deity is Krishna (> >> Madhava ) with Radha.> >> > Now coming to your D-20 chart,Lagna is Makara and 2nd house is empty and it> >> has Rashi Drishti of Rahu from Karka Rashi.Shani (V) also throws his Rashi> >> Drishti over Kumbha Rashi But Shani is weak compared to Rahu as Rahu is> >> exalted in Navamsha.Now Rahu is in Karka Rashi whose sign dispositor Chandra> >> is exalted along with Shukra in Vrishabha.So it is very clear that your> >> Family deity is Lord Krishna ( Madhava ) along with his consort Radha (> >> Lakshmi ).> >> > I hope the above explanation clarified your doubts.> >> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> >> > Ramadas Rao.> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Sourav souravc108@ wrote:> >> > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> >> > Dear Sri Ramadas-ji,> >> > Pranaam. If 2nd house in Vimsamsa is empty, then we should take i! ts lord> >> Lord has a stronger influence than aspectors. Here in your case, 2nd house is> >> empty and has Mesha rasi. So we take its lord Mangal. Further, Mangal is> >> aspecting own house so that is even a stronger influence. This determines> >> your Kula devata as Sri Narasimha Deva. If Mangal is influenced by Shukra,> >> then Lakshmi -sahita. Kindly comment.> >> > Kindly provide your data so that I can study. I have given my data to you.> >> Please explain from Rasi Chart's 4th house how to arrive at Kula Devata as> >> Radha-Madhava (My Kula Devata). In my Vimsamsa, 2nd is empty and second lord> >> is Rahu with Ketu in the 7th house of Karka Rasi. Rahu-Ketu is fully aspected> >> by Chandra and Shukra and Chandra is the dispositor of Rahu-Ketu. This can> >> indicate Radha-Madhava.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > Sourav> >> > > >> =============================================================================> >> ================================> >> > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao ramadasrao@ wrote:> >> > ! t;> >>> > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> >>> > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> >>> > > Dear Visti,> >>> > > Thanks for your mail and as per D-20 chart interpretaion, then Lagna is> >>> Meena, 2nd house is Mesha where no planet is there but has Rashi drishties> >>> of Kuja, Shani (V),Debilitated Chandra ,Surya and Guru.Then you have to find> >>> which planet is stronger out of all these planets.But instead of that if we> >>> consider 4th house which also indicates Kula Devatha apart from other> >>> Karakattwas,then we can get the accurate Kula Devatha.in my natal chart,> >>> Lagna is Makara,so 4th house is Mesha and its lord Kuja is in 10th in> >>> Digbala in Tula Rashi in Vishaka Nakshatra ruled by Guru.This means Kuja in> >>> odd sign indicating Sri Nrusimha and Nakshatra ruler Guru who is in> >>> swakshetra indicates Lakshmi Sahita ( Tula is the Moola Trikona for Shukra> >>> whose deity is Sri Lakshmi )Guru Nrusimha ( Of Saligrama )who is my Kula> >>> Devatha.> >>> > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama ! Smarana,> >>> > > Ramadas Rao.> >>> > > > >> > gt; > >>> > > Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:> >>> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> >>> > > Dear Ramadas Rao, Namaskar> >>> > > The fourth house specifically indicates 'Bandhu' whilst the second house> >>> is 'Kula'. Thus the Kula devata is found from the second house in Vimsamsa.> >>> > > Best wishes,> >>> > > ***> >>> > > Visti Larsen> >>> > > For services and articles visit:> >>> > > http://srigaruda.com> >>> > > > >>> > > ***> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf> >>> Of Ramadas Rao> >>> > > 18 September 2006 10:00> >>> > > sohamsa > >>> > > Re: Re: family deity> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> >>> > > OM NAMO NARAYANAYA> >>> > > Dear Jayachandran,> > ! t; > 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula> > Devatha.In your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by> > Shukra and Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it> > indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru (V)> > who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping that> > Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity.Now Ketu is with> > Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra and he> > aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female neecha> > deity like Raktheshwari,Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with Naaga.Normally in> > Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from generations.> >>> > > Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in> >>> your family ??> >>> > > I hope this helps you.> >>> > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> >>> > > Ramadas Rao.> >>> > > > >>> > >! jayachandran_revathi jayachandran_revathi@ wrot e:> >>> > > -i think no.> >>> > > > >>> > > i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that> >>> > > some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no> >>> > > info abt dietys)> >>> > > > >>> > > my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just> >>> > > completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health> >>> > > problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4> >>> > > papers during my studies (btech)> >>> > > for exat dates of that i have to search> >>> > > > >>> > > if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u> >>> > > > >>> > > -- In sohamsa , "Sourav" souravc108@ wrote:> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > Dear Srimaan Revathi,> >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > Namaskar. Has your> >>> > > family> >>>> > > > b! een worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately> >>>> > > > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with> >>> > > proper> >>>> > > > dates).> >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > Best wishes,> >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > Sourav> >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > ===============================================================> >>>> > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> >>>> > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> >>>>> > > > >> >>>>> > > > > -dear sourav,> >>>>> > > > > my birth data ia given below> >>>>> > > > > dob:12 june 1985> >>>>> > > > > tob: 5-20 pm> >>>>> > > > > place:kannur kerala> >>>>> > > > > sex:male> >>>>> > > > >> >>>>> > > > > regards jayachandran> >>>>> > > > >> >>>>> > > > >> >>>>> > > > >> >>>>> > > > >> >> > ! gt; > >> >>>>> > > > >> >>>>> > > > > ;> >>>>> > > > >> >>>>> > > > >> >>>>> > > > > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@> >>>>> > > > > wrote:> >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> >>>>>> > > > > > Namaskar. It is similar to> >>>>> > > > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa> >>> > > Chakra. In> >>>>> > > > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more> >>> > > grahas> >>>>> > > > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one> >>>>> > > > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord.> >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively> >>>>> > > > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So> >>> > > this! > >>>>> > > > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is> >>> > > better> >>>>> > > > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be> >>> > > sure> >>>>> > > > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas.> >>> > > If> >>>>> > > > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your> >>> > > birth> >>>>> > > > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data.> >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > > Best wishes,> >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > > Sourav> >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > > >>> > > =====================================================================> >>> > > => >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > ! t;> >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> >>> > > <jayachandran> >>>>> > > > > _revathi@> wrote:> >>>>>>> > > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety)> >>>>>>> > > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects> >>> > > to 2> >>>>> > > > > nd> >>>>>>> > > > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered??> >>>>>>> > > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within> >>>>> > > > > seconds> >>>>>>> > > > > > > so> >>>>>>> > > > > > > is there any other method? or> >>>>>>> > > > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds)> >>>>>>> > > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associat! ed with them may> be > >>> > > a> >>>>>>> > > > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik> >>> > > etc).> >>>>>>> > > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the> >>> > > bhav> >>>>> > > > > also?> >>>>>>> > > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > > > regards jayachandran> >>>>>>> > > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > > > --i- In sohamsa , "Sourav" <souravc108@>> >>> > > wrote:> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna ||> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji,> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Namaskar.> >>>>> > > > > Family> >> >! ; > > > > > deity> >>>>> > > > > t; > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing> >>> > > Kula in> >>>>>>> > > > > > > Vimsamsa> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart> >>> > > shows> >>>>> > > > > Guru> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata.> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Best wishes,> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > Sourav> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > ================================================================> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > sohamsa , "jayachandran_revathi"> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote:> >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > hello,> > ! > > > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out> >>>>> > > > > family> >>>>>>> > > > > > > diety> >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > from ones chart?> >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or> >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or> >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide> >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > >> >>>> > > >> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India> >>> > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8.> >>> Get it NOW > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > ! t; > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India> >>> > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8.> >>> Get it NOW> >>> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India> >> > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Dear Sourav, Namaste In your chart, HL is in the 12-th house, AK Chandra is in the lagna and in the 5th house in Navamsa (Kanya is Rasi's 9th house) and is lord of 5th in Vimsamsa debilitated in the 9th house. This shows great focus of spirituality and submission to Ishtadevata. You are truly great sadhaka. Please forgive our follies in argument. I am merely trying to clear my conception. Best wishes, Sourav If you don’t mind, this seems to be a rather convoluted way of delineating. I normally take the AK from Rasi and look at where its placed in Vimsamsa. For yours, if you add +/- 26 sec, you’ll have Mercury in the 5th in Vimsamsa. Love, Swee sweechan On 9/22/06 9:24 AM, " Sourav " <souravc108 wrote: || Hare Raama Krsna || Dear Sri Ramadas-ji, Pranaam. Thank you for sharing your info. I have saved it now. In my chart, Chandra is not in Vrischika but Chandra is in Tula (vargottama) per Lahiri Ayanaamsa. Also between Kuja and Ketu, do you think sign dispositor of Budha should be Ketu being in moolatrikona and also aspected by Guru, its sign-dispositor rather than Mangal ? I am not sure why you took sign-dispositor's sign-dispositor. Kindly explain. In your chart, Mangal is lord of 4th house is Rasi and 2nd house (empty) in Vimsamsa. This shows Lord Nrusimha. However, Lakshmi-sahita is more clearly seen from the Rasi Chart than the Vimsamsa Chart. Mangal's sign dispositor in Rasi and Navamsa is Shukra and aspects 4th house and 4th lord in the Rasi chart. But in Navamsa, there is no clear connection with Shukra to the 6th house although Shukra's sign dispositor is aspecting Mangal. Debilitated Chandra is also aspecting 2nd house showing a female deity (Mother Form) worshipped. In your chart, HL is in the 12-th house, AK Chandra is in the lagna and in the 5th house in Navamsa (Kanya is Rasi's 9th house) and is lord of 5th in Vimsamsa debilitated in the 9th house. This shows great focus of spirituality and submission to Ishtadevata. You are truly great sadhaka. Please forgive our follies in argument. I am merely trying to clear my conception. Best wishes, Sourav =========================================================================================================== sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH > Dear Sourav, > Thanks for your mail.My birth details are available in previous mails in SOHAMSA Group.Anyhow for your information, I provide my birth details : DOB : 23/03/1952,TOB : 3:35:39 Hrs.Time Zone : 5:30 Hrs. east of GMT,Lat.: 12 deg.58'59 " N and Long.: 74 Deg.46'59 " . > In my D-20 chart,Shukra and Chandra are debilitated.This is for your information. > Now coming to your chart,4th house lord is Budha who is in Vrischika Rashi in the Nakshatra of Jyeshta ruled by Budha himself indicating Vishnu Avatar.Now Budha's sign dispositor is Kuja who is Vakra in Karka Rashi, so he gives the results of exalted Kuja.thus he becomes strong in Kataka whose sign lord is Chandra.Chandra is debilitated in Vrischika.Vrischika is a female sign and so a female deity is associated with Vis! hnu Avatar.So Budha in Vrischika Rashi behaves like a debilitated Chandra as Budha is debilitated in Navamsha.This gives an indication of Lord Krishna.So the deity is Krishna ( Madhava ) with Radha. > Now coming to your D-20 chart,Lagna is Makara and 2nd house is empty and it has Rashi Drishti of Rahu from Karka Rashi.Shani (V) also throws his Rashi Drishti over Kumbha Rashi But Shani is weak compared to Rahu as Rahu is exalted in Navamsha.Now Rahu is in Karka Rashi whose sign dispositor Chandra is exalted along with Shukra in Vrishabha.So it is very clear that your Family deity is Lord Krishna ( Madhava ) along with his consort Radha ( Lakshmi ). > I hope the above explanation clarified your doubts. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > > > Sourav souravc108 wrote: > || Hare Raama Krsna || > Dear Sri Ramadas-ji, > Pranaam. If 2nd house in Vimsamsa is empty, then we should take i! ts lord Lord has a stronger influence than aspectors. Here in your case, 2nd house is empty and has Mesha rasi. So we take its lord Mangal. Further, Mangal is aspecting own house so that is even a stronger influence. This determines your Kula devata as Sri Narasimha Deva. If Mangal is influenced by Shukra, then Lakshmi -sahita. Kindly comment. > Kindly provide your data so that I can study. I have given my data to you. Please explain from Rasi Chart's 4th house how to arrive at Kula Devata as Radha-Madhava (My Kula Devata). In my Vimsamsa, 2nd is empty and second lord is Rahu with Ketu in the 7th house of Karka Rasi. Rahu-Ketu is fully aspected by Chandra and Shukra and Chandra is the dispositor of Rahu-Ketu. This can indicate Radha-Madhava. > Best wishes, > Sourav > ============================================================================================================= > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao ramadasrao@ wrote: > ! t; > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH > > Dear Visti, > > Thanks for your mail and as per D-20 chart interpretaion, then Lagna is Meena, 2nd house is Mesha where no planet is there but has Rashi drishties of Kuja, Shani (V),Debilitated Chandra ,Surya and Guru.Then you have to find which planet is stronger out of all these planets.But instead of that if we consider 4th house which also indicates Kula Devatha apart from other Karakattwas,then we can get the accurate Kula Devatha.in my natal chart, Lagna is Makara,so 4th house is Mesha and its lord Kuja is in 10th in Digbala in Tula Rashi in Vishaka Nakshatra ruled by Guru.This means Kuja in odd sign indicating Sri Nrusimha and Nakshatra ruler Guru who is in swakshetra indicates Lakshmi Sahita ( Tula is the Moola Trikona for Shukra whose deity is Sri Lakshmi )Guru Nrusimha ( Of Saligrama )who is my Kula Devatha. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama ! Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > gt; > > Visti Larsen visti@ wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Ramadas Rao, Namaskar > > The fourth house specifically indicates 'Bandhu' whilst the second house is 'Kula'. Thus the Kula devata is found from the second house in Vimsamsa. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramadas Rao > > 18 September 2006 10:00 > > sohamsa > > Re: Re: family deity > > > > > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH > > OM NAMO NARAYANAYA > > Dear Jayachandran, ! t; > 4th house indicates one's Kula,so 4th lord indicates the Kula Devatha.In your chart, 4th lord is Shani (V) and is with Ketu aspected by Shukra and Rahu.Shani(V) in Tula Rashi gives the results of Neecha Shani,so it indicates a Neecha Deity but as he is in Vishakha Nakshatra ruled by Guru (V) who also works like Uccha, it indicates the family started worshipping that Neecha Deity as they found some auspiciousness in that Deity.Now Ketu is with Shani (V).Ketu indicates Gana.Shani (V)'s sign dispositor is Shukra and he aspects Shani (V) directly and is with Rahu ,this indicates a Female neecha deity like Raktheshwari,Vyaghra Chamundi etc.along with Naaga.Normally in Kerala,these kind of Deities are being worshipped from generations. > > Now why this question has come ? Do you face any problems presently in your family ?? > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > >! jayachandran_revathi jayachandran_revathi@ wrot e: > > -i think no. > > > > i can see two possibility either shastha or devi . i heard that > > some type of worship existed in earlier generations( at present no > > info abt dietys) > > > > my education : i am a graduate in electrical and eelectronics just > > completed my course (2002 -2006 batch) i had experienced some health > > problems in my sukradasa .what type of dates u require? i lost 3-4 > > papers during my studies (btech) > > for exat dates of that i have to search > > > > if u need that dates i will find it out and tell u > > > > -- In sohamsa , " Sourav " souravc108@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Srimaan Revathi, > > > > > > Namaskar. Has your > > family > > > b! een worshippers of Lord Shiva ? Your birth time is approximately > > > correct. Please provide some information on your education (with > > proper > > > dates). > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > =============================================================== > > > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > -dear sourav, > > > > my birth data ia given below > > > > dob:12 june 1985 > > > > tob: 5-20 pm > > > > place:kannur kerala > > > > sex:male > > > > > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ! gt; > > > > > > > > > > ; > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In sohamsa , Sourav Chowdhury souravc108@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > > > Namaskar. It is similar to > > > > the way of findin Ishta Devata or Guru Devata from Navamsa > > Chakra. In > > > > D-20 (corrected), take the 2nd house. If there are two or more > > grahas > > > > there, take the stronger or take the combination. If there is one > > > > graha it is simple. If there are no grahas, then take the lord. > > > > > > > > > > Being a higher Varga Chakra, the lagna in D-20 moves relatively > > > > fast. But the total span for one rasi is about 3 to 5 mins. So > > this! > > > > chakra can be used to fine tune rectification process. It is > > better > > > > to use Navamsa, Dasamsa, Siddhamsa etc first because you can be > > sure > > > > of the data and there is much less subjectivity to these vargas. > > If > > > > you already know your Kuladevata or if you are sure about your > > birth > > > > time, then only check D-20. Please provide your birth chart data. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > ===================================================================== > > = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ! t; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " > > <jayachandran > > > > _revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > i have some doubts in this regards (finding family diety) > > > > > > > > > > > > i would like to know whether the planets in 2nd or aspects > > to 2 > > > > nd > > > > > > house or lords of 2nd in d20 should be considered?? > > > > > > > > > > > > in most of the charts the d20 lagna changes its sign within > > > > seconds > > > > > > so > > > > > > is there any other method? or > > > > > > how to fix the lagna?(in my case it is 30 seconds) > > > > > > > > > > > > for most of the diety,s the bhav associat! ed with them may be > > a > > > > > > little bit complex(rajasic +thamasic or rajasic +sathwik > > etc). > > > > > > > > > > > > in these cases is there any clear cut idea to identify the > > bhav > > > > also? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards jayachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --i- In sohamsa , " Sourav " <souravc108@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Raama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Srimati Revathi-ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. > > > > Family >! ; > > > > > deity > > > > t; > > (Kula Devata) is seen only from 2nd house representing > > Kula in > > > > > > Vimsamsa > > > > > > > - D20 chart. In Navamsa chart, 9th from Karakaamsa chart > > shows > > > > Guru > > > > > > > Devata and 6th from AmK shows Paalana Devata. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================================ > > > > > > > sohamsa , " jayachandran_revathi " > > > > > > > <jayachandran_revathi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, ! > > > > > > > > i am a new member and would like to know how to find out > > > > family > > > > > > diety > > > > > > > > from ones chart? > > > > > > > > is it from 9th of karakamsa or > > > > > > > > 2nd house of D20 lagna or > > > > > > > > is it from 6th of amatya karaka pls guide > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. 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Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Ajith, You are most welcome. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Ajit Krishnan <ajit.krishnan wrote: Dear Sri Ramadas, Thank you. ajit On 9/22/06, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Ajit, Thanks for your mail.A Family deity is being worshipped from the beginning of a generation and due to some reasons ( Karmic ) the worship has been stopped by the last X generations,then it can be said there will be anger of Family deity.Normally such kind of anomalies can be found out through Ashtamangala Prashna. In the meanwhile say,3 generations before,if the family has adopted another religion,then also the anger of family Deity can be seen.the changing of religion will not leave such persons from their original ancestor's Family Deity.Here Dharma Shastra is to be considered mainly for performing of Vratas,festivals, Shraddhas etc.Suppose if a person being a Brahmin has stopped chanting Gayatri Mantra,but staying in Brahmin religion,then his next generations will get anger of Gayatri Mother . Now let me explain about my family.My grandfather had 3 brothers and after his death, the properties got divided and allotted to all the 4 brothers families along with the Poojas or Festivals which were continued from generations.So for my father, the allottment of dali Pooja of family Deities which consists of Gopalakrisha Saligrama,Vasudeva Saligrama,Sankarshana Saligrama, Nrusimha Saligrama,Sudarshana Chakra ,metallic idols of Shri Lakshmi Narayana, Sri Satya Narayana, Lord Hanuman, Sri Garuda,Naaga and Mother Saraswati.So we have to perform daily Poojas to these Deities along with Nivedya.For other brothers of my grandfather, performing of Ganesh Chaturthi,performing special Poojas for Mother Durga,Performing of Shri Durga Deepa Namaskara Pooja and Vasantha Pooja during Chaitra month every year.Now the question if these Poojas are being performed by all or not.Some stopped doing the Poojas given to them and as a result the next children born in their family suffered a lot of problems including madness,unnatural death,mental retardness,severe incurable diseases etc.But in my house the Pooja of the said Idols and Saligramas are still continued even I am here in Kuwait.Now finally the remeaining memebers of those other brothers' family of my grandfather started performing the Poojas given to them during the property division and slowly prosperity is seen now.The above is the following as per Dharma Shastras.But the family Deity worship is for all the members of the generation.So we have to see atleast 6 generations regarding family Deity worship. The above are my opinions and other may have their own opinion. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Ajit Krishnan <ajit.krishnan > wrote: namassarvebhyahDear Shri Ramadas Rao,How far back do we go to determine the family deity. In dharmashastra, we see rules such as "if a brahmin family has not recitedgayatri for three-generations, they become brahmana-bandhu-s only". Does this kind of logic apply to the current discussion? If a deityhas not been worshipped for many generations, are they stillconsidered the family deity? Is it fair to say that when we look atfamily deities, we should only look at the past x number of generations?ajitOn 9/19/06, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> OM NAMO NARAYANAYA> Dear Jayachandran,>> Thanks for your mail.If we study Prashna Margam,then we can get all kind of deities worshipped in Kerala and other parts of India. > Now my question is when the ancestor's temple have been destroyed many hundred years before,then the next generation elders would have gone to a expert Astrologer who can perform Ashtamangala Prashna and solved the problems.Anyhow let me go through deep into your chart and also please send the birth details of your maternal uncle.but you have to give me sometime to solve your Family Deity problem.>> I hope this helps you. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,>> Ramadas Rao. Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH > Dear Ajith, > You are most welcome. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > Ajit Krishnan <ajit.krishnan wrote: > Dear Sri Ramadas, > > Thank you. > > ajit > > > On 9/22/06, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH > OM NAMO NARAYANAYA > Dear Ajit, > Thanks for your mail.A Family deity is being worshipped from the beginning of a generation and due to some reasons ( Karmic ) the worship has been stopped by the last X generations,then it can be said there will be anger of Family deity.Normally such kind of anomalies can be found out through Ashtamangala Prashna. > In the meanwhile say,3 generations before,if the family has adopted another religion,then also the anger of family Deity can be seen.the changing of religion will not leave such persons from their original ancestor's Family Deity.Here Dharma Shastra is to be considered mainly for performing of Vratas,festivals, Shraddhas etc.Suppose if a person being a Brahmin has stopped chanting Gayatri Mantra,but staying in Brahmin religion,then his next generations will get anger of Gayatri Mother . > Now let me explain about my family.My grandfather had 3 brothers and after his death, the properties got divided and allotted to all the 4 brothers families along with the Poojas or Festivals which were continued from generations.So for my father, the allottment of dali Pooja of family Deities which consists of Gopalakrisha Saligrama,Vasudeva Saligrama,Sankarshana Saligrama, Nrusimha Saligrama,Sudarshana Chakra ,metallic idols of Shri Lakshmi Narayana, Sri Satya Narayana, Lord Hanuman, Sri Garuda,Naaga and Mother Saraswati.So we have to perform daily Poojas to these Deities along with Nivedya.For other brothers of my grandfather, performing of Ganesh Chaturthi,performing special Poojas for Mother Durga,Performing of Shri Durga Deepa Namaskara Pooja and Vasantha Pooja during Chaitra month every year.Now the question if these Poojas are being performed by all or not.Some stopped doing the Poojas given to them and as a result the next children born in their family suffered a > lot of problems including madness,unnatural death,mental retardness,severe incurable diseases etc.But in my house the Pooja of the said Idols and Saligramas are still continued even I am here in Kuwait.Now finally the remeaining memebers of those other brothers' family of my grandfather started performing the Poojas given to them during the property division and slowly prosperity is seen now.The above is the following as per Dharma Shastras.But the family Deity worship is for all the members of the generation.So we have to see atleast 6 generations regarding family Deity worship. > The above are my opinions and other may have their own opinion. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > > Ajit Krishnan <ajit.krishnan wrote: > namassarvebhyah > > Dear Shri Ramadas Rao, > > How far back do we go to determine the family deity. In dharma > shastra, we see rules such as " if a brahmin family has not recited > gayatri for three-generations, they become brahmana-bandhu-s only " . > Does this kind of logic apply to the current discussion? If a deity > has not been worshipped for many generations, are they still > considered the family deity? Is it fair to say that when we look at > family deities, we should only look at the past x number of > generations? > > ajit > > On 9/19/06, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH > > OM NAMO NARAYANAYA > > Dear Jayachandran, > > > > Thanks for your mail.If we study Prashna Margam,then we can get all kind of deities worshipped in Kerala and other parts of India. > > Now my question is when the ancestor's temple have been destroyed many hundred years before,then the next generation elders would have gone to a expert Astrologer who can perform Ashtamangala Prashna and solved the problems.Anyhow let me go through deep into your chart and also please send the birth details of your maternal uncle.but you have to give me sometime to solve your Family Deity problem. > > > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > > > > Ramadas Rao. > > Dear Rao Sahib, Do you suggest the general members also regarding their family deity? say yes you will be doing a real service to one and all. Knowing fully well that this group is meant for 'inter Shishyas' Regards Ramesh Ojha > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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