Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Dear Vrkrishnan, Thanks so much for your encouraging wise remarks. Your perspective and religious view is well taken into a world of reality. I am in debt to you for your view and perspective on this large philosophy and scientific realm of the subject. As we all know. the Upanishads are a precurser of higher questioning of life and religion rituals. Isn't this great that a segment of religion is not intimidated to question the reality of our existence. And yet, the real truth is conveyed in its teachings!!!! Happy Ramadan, Uttara vattem krishnan <bursar_99 jyotish-vidya Wednesday, September 3, 2008 9:11:33 PM Re: Unique features of a twin's chart Dear uttara ji, Your other mail to Mr krishna ji too was very inspiring to provide a room to think what our ancients understood about sciences and how the progressive scientific developments are making human beings redundant(?) as places ox experimentation can now capable of replicating everything that is of Mother Nature. Nature as described in vedas and upanishads has a base for all features in evolution,code of conduct and the rationality in all such matters. Anthropological significance certainly an intimate scientific aspect that enabled to study various codes of humanity to give them security,honour and adopt ways for livelyhood apart from physical aberrations that take place in Evolution process.Emergence of various sciences and fields of study is no desirable and essential but in application process it tends to subsume all laws in existence for the sake of humanity.This growth rate of science and advancement of technology is definetely a matter of interest and curiosity for all of us. I think the movie which you have seen and the message conveyed(might be a caution like) to make human being understand how dangerous it is going to be for the entire humanity.what is believed to be God's creation no more remaining as such.Intellect of human being has no limit and capable of exploring and invent many wonders that are likely to startle evry one of us.Might be a beginning is in the process(?) for humanoids for extinction. If our cultures in changing times are taken care and preserved and sciences too grows under some code of conduct that has to lay some limitations will be ideal.But then the worth of materialism always has a fascination and value.This aspect is becoming an " index " for measurement of various aspects of today's society. If sages have respected the humanity and guided them through their various studies in all most all aspects of Nature,it is only the materialism pervading is taking away all essence of the Mother Nature Finally even in our limited understanding of Astrology,people want and Astrological guidance to overcome Destiny and they think freewill that comes through human action can replace DESTINY.So the growth of business Astrology in various forms of tarrot cards,numerology, fengshui and what not are attracting the media attention. vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ > wrote: Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ > Re: Unique features of a twin's chart jyotish-vidya Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 4:10 PM Dear vrkrishnan Thank you for this explanation of 8th hse importance. I did not take into account medical astrology assignment of body parts or other lagnas. Doing so, makes sense. Astrobiology is a fascinating new area for study too. Uttara vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > jyotish-vidya Tuesday, September 2, 2008 11:39:39 PM Re: Unique features of a twin's chart Dear Uttara, In conventional wisdom,we analyse Kalapurush,to know about the various parts of human body as signified by thw signs.for ex 12th represents feet,9th represents feet,8th represents reproductive parts/uterus etc.we also identify constellations involved also as per lagna for pathogenic purposes in Medical Astrology. In conception /fertilisation we have also conventional concepts like Adhana lagna /Nisheka lagna too.Astrobiology an emerging area needs further study also Further analysis for identifying gestation period for progeny purposes are also considered.Mr Krishna.s analysis on birth of twins is interesting and needs further application purposes vrkrishnan --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ > wrote: Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ > Re: Unique features of a twin's chart jyotish-vidya Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 11:27 PM Dear Vattem, could you please explain further (for knowledge), the role 8th hse plays in receptivity and accommodating for the fertilised eggs. Thanks, Uttara Original Message ---- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > jyotish-vidya Tuesday, September 2, 2008 6:08:37 PM Re: Unique features of a twin's chart Dear Krishna ji, very fascinating article.The data collected and the analysis made for birth of twins,particulalry relating " two kama bhavas/that is 3rd and 11th " No doubt 11th signifies multiplicity and the house is exactly 180 deg away/opposite to 5th,identified as putra bhava.Also 5th to 5th that is 9th in tha case of a female chart is supposed to have a role in progent and is also180 deg away from 3rd.Interaction of Dharma(5th & 9th) with kama(3rd & 11th) either through,rasi, lords or parivartana of lords could some how eventualise to the birth of twins. For the actual birth of twins,some where the role of 8th signifying for the receptivity and accommodating for the fertilised eggs too may be of consideration. vrkishnan --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > Unique features of a twin's chart jyotish-vidya Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 10:32 AM Dear All, I would like to present my latest article at my blog on the above subject. Those interested can have a look into: http://astrokrishna .blogspot. com Regards, Krishna Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Dear uttara ji, Iam just citing from an article that appeared in prominent Astro Magzine:Changing roles of the Astrology is the total journey of the soul " " Society is in the process of paradign shift towards next stage of evolution and wants to consciously involved in the process:A.M,june 2007 regards vrkrishnan --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Uttara <muttaraphalguni wrote: Uttara <muttaraphalguni vaittem - Re: Unique features of a twin's chart jyotish-vidya Saturday, September 6, 2008, 10:24 PM Dear Vrkrishnan, Thanks so much for your encouraging wise remarks. Your perspective and religious view is well taken into a world of reality. I am in debt to you for your view and perspective on this large philosophy and scientific realm of the subject. As we all know. the Upanishads are a precurser of higher questioning of life and religion rituals. Isn't this great that a segment of religion is not intimidated to question the reality of our existence. And yet, the real truth is conveyed in its teachings!!! ! Happy Ramadan, Uttara vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > jyotish-vidya Wednesday, September 3, 2008 9:11:33 PM Re: Unique features of a twin's chart Dear uttara ji, Your other mail to Mr krishna ji too was very inspiring to provide a room to think what our ancients understood about sciences and how the progressive scientific developments are making human beings redundant(?) as places ox experimentation can now capable of replicating everything that is of Mother Nature. Nature as described in vedas and upanishads has a base for all features in evolution,code of conduct and the rationality in all such matters. Anthropological significance certainly an intimate scientific aspect that enabled to study various codes of humanity to give them security,honour and adopt ways for livelyhood apart from physical aberrations that take place in Evolution process.Emergence of various sciences and fields of study is no desirable and essential but in application process it tends to subsume all laws in existence for the sake of humanity.This growth rate of science and advancement of technology is definetely a matter of interest and curiosity for all of us. I think the movie which you have seen and the message conveyed(might be a caution like) to make human being understand how dangerous it is going to be for the entire humanity.what is believed to be God's creation no more remaining as such.Intellect of human being has no limit and capable of exploring and invent many wonders that are likely to startle evry one of us.Might be a beginning is in the process(?) for humanoids for extinction. If our cultures in changing times are taken care and preserved and sciences too grows under some code of conduct that has to lay some limitations will be ideal.But then the worth of materialism always has a fascination and value.This aspect is becoming an " index " for measurement of various aspects of today's society. If sages have respected the humanity and guided them through their various studies in all most all aspects of Nature,it is only the materialism pervading is taking away all essence of the Mother Nature Finally even in our limited understanding of Astrology,people want and Astrological guidance to overcome Destiny and they think freewill that comes through human action can replace DESTINY.So the growth of business Astrology in various forms of tarrot cards,numerology, fengshui and what not are attracting the media attention. vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ > wrote: Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ > Re: Unique features of a twin's chart jyotish-vidya Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 4:10 PM Dear vrkrishnan Thank you for this explanation of 8th hse importance. I did not take into account medical astrology assignment of body parts or other lagnas. Doing so, makes sense. Astrobiology is a fascinating new area for study too. Uttara vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > jyotish-vidya Tuesday, September 2, 2008 11:39:39 PM Re: Unique features of a twin's chart Dear Uttara, In conventional wisdom,we analyse Kalapurush,to know about the various parts of human body as signified by thw signs.for ex 12th represents feet,9th represents feet,8th represents reproductive parts/uterus etc.we also identify constellations involved also as per lagna for pathogenic purposes in Medical Astrology. In conception /fertilisation we have also conventional concepts like Adhana lagna /Nisheka lagna too.Astrobiology an emerging area needs further study also Further analysis for identifying gestation period for progeny purposes are also considered.Mr Krishna.s analysis on birth of twins is interesting and needs further application purposes vrkrishnan --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ > wrote: Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ > Re: Unique features of a twin's chart jyotish-vidya Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 11:27 PM Dear Vattem, could you please explain further (for knowledge), the role 8th hse plays in receptivity and accommodating for the fertilised eggs. Thanks, Uttara Original Message ---- vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > jyotish-vidya Tuesday, September 2, 2008 6:08:37 PM Re: Unique features of a twin's chart Dear Krishna ji, very fascinating article.The data collected and the analysis made for birth of twins,particulalry relating " two kama bhavas/that is 3rd and 11th " No doubt 11th signifies multiplicity and the house is exactly 180 deg away/opposite to 5th,identified as putra bhava.Also 5th to 5th that is 9th in tha case of a female chart is supposed to have a role in progent and is also180 deg away from 3rd.Interaction of Dharma(5th & 9th) with kama(3rd & 11th) either through,rasi, lords or parivartana of lords could some how eventualise to the birth of twins. For the actual birth of twins,some where the role of 8th signifying for the receptivity and accommodating for the fertilised eggs too may be of consideration. vrkishnan --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > Unique features of a twin's chart jyotish-vidya Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 10:32 AM Dear All, I would like to present my latest article at my blog on the above subject. Those interested can have a look into: http://astrokrishna .blogspot. com Regards, Krishna Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Dear Uttara, It was certainly a surprise to see you back on the group after such a long time :-) My apologies for not responding to your posts but I've (also) been forced to take a step back and focus on my " Self " for awhile. My contributions to the group will continue to be minimal for some time... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Uttara " <muttaraphalguni <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, September 07, 2008 10:24 AM vaittem - Re: Unique features of a twin's chart Dear Vrkrishnan, Thanks so much for your encouraging wise remarks. Your perspective and religious view is well taken into a world of reality. I am in debt to you for your view and perspective on this large philosophy and scientific realm of the subject. As we all know. the Upanishads are a precurser of higher questioning of life and religion rituals. Isn't this great that a segment of religion is not intimidated to question the reality of our existence. And yet, the real truth is conveyed in its teachings!!!! Happy Ramadan, Uttara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Dear Mrs Wendy, Missing your mails these days after the sad event in your family.further you also wish to concentrate on " self " and prefer to be away for some time. The reply you have given in the case of Vidicara about nature of saturn is very informative and educative too. wish you all the best and look forward for your guidnace as and when you have feel like to say few words to all of us vrkrishnan --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya Re: vaittem - Re: Unique features of a twin's chart jyotish-vidya Monday, September 8, 2008, 8:50 PM Dear Uttara, It was certainly a surprise to see you back on the group after such a long time :-) My apologies for not responding to your posts but I've (also) been forced to take a step back and focus on my " Self " for awhile. My contributions to the group will continue to be minimal for some time... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ _________ _______ - " Uttara " <muttaraphalguni@ > <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, September 07, 2008 10:24 AM vaittem - Re: Unique features of a twin's chart Dear Vrkrishnan, Thanks so much for your encouraging wise remarks. Your perspective and religious view is well taken into a world of reality. I am in debt to you for your view and perspective on this large philosophy and scientific realm of the subject. As we all know. the Upanishads are a precurser of higher questioning of life and religion rituals. Isn't this great that a segment of religion is not intimidated to question the reality of our existence. And yet, the real truth is conveyed in its teachings!!! ! Happy Ramadan, Uttara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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