Uccha Bhanga

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Dear Ravindramani,

 

Shri Rama is supposed to have this combination; is it not?

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- On Tue, 7/10/08, ravindramani <ravindramani wrote:

ravindramani <ravindramani

Uccha Bhanga

jyotish-vidya

Tuesday, 7 October, 2008, 7:48 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Vic,

 

 

 

Though the question was addressed to Neena, I would like to write a

 

few lines here.

 

 

 

" Uccha Bhanga " is an undesirable disposition of planets. It happens

 

when two exalted planets aspect each other.

 

 

 

There is a saying in Tamil, " Ucchan Ucchanai parthal Jathagan pichhai

 

eduppan " . The rough translation of the same is " when an exalted

 

planet receives the aspect of another exalted planet the native

 

becomes a beggar " .

 

 

 

Dr. B.V. Raman describes this disposition, as Uccha Bhanga Yoga and

 

is bad. He was of the view that the native heads for bankruptcy.

 

 

 

It is not uncommon to see in charts that when Jupiter is exalted in

 

Cancer and Mars is exalted in Capricorn.

 

 

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you for the explanation, Ravindramani.

- Vic

 

On Oct 7, 2008, at 7:18 AM, ravindramani wrote:

 

> Dear Vic,

>

> Though the question was addressed to Neena, I would like to write a

> few lines here.

>

> " Uccha Bhanga " is an undesirable disposition of planets. It happens

> when two exalted planets aspect each other.

>

> There is a saying in Tamil, " Ucchan Ucchanai parthal Jathagan pichhai

> eduppan " . The rough translation of the same is " when an exalted

> planet receives the aspect of another exalted planet the native

> becomes a beggar " .

>

> Dr. B.V. Raman describes this disposition, as Uccha Bhanga Yoga and

> is bad. He was of the view that the native heads for bankruptcy.

>

> It is not uncommon to see in charts that when Jupiter is exalted in

> Cancer and Mars is exalted in Capricorn.

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

>

>

>

> ---

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna,

 

You are well aware, if one tries to literally apply those results,

which the astrological classics say, in a chart, for a given

combination, he would certainly fail in his predictions. Classics

say if Jupiter is placed in Lagna, one lakh doshas are mitigated. A

simple principle. There are exceptions to this rule.

 

If two malefics are placed in Lagna and if Jupiter does not influence

the Lagna or the Moon, the native is illegitimate, the classics say.

This is a very simple principle. One classic gives 80 exceptions to

this simple principle.

 

How does one interpret this? This is a single placement and a simple

statement. If one literally applies these rules in charts, what would

happen?

 

We were not analyzing any chart in totality. Vic raised some

question I responded in a general way. That is all. After all it is

a combination. It has a textbook definition and a result is

attributed to that combination. I wrote that.

 

Now, whatever be the reasons and the circumstances, whatever be the

chart of Lord Rama, it is a matter of fact, Lord Rama did suffer for

fourteen years. He was a great prince of a great country. Son of a

great King. He was the son-in-law of a great King, not only a great

King but also a great Rishi. What happened to him? He was asked to

go to the forest. His legitimate right to ascend the throne was

violated. He went with his spouse with single attire. He slept on the

mud floor and lived under the thatched roof. He traveled by foot.

He ate what ever available in the forest from whomsoever and

whatsoever offered. He wandered aimlessly in the forest. Lost his

wife. Took the help of all sorts of animals. A Dhobi humiliated him.

Why all this happened to him. How do you account for these

experiences in his chart? Ordinarily a son of a King need not or

rather not supposed to have endured all these.

 

You know pretty well how a chart is analysed in its entirety, be it

is a chart of Lord Rama or a chart of a common man. Attributed

results in the classics are not to be applied literally but

liberally.

 

All the above, I do not consider myself competent to examine the

charts of Avataras.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

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Dear Ravindramani,

 

Shri Rama is supposed to have this combination; is it not?

 

Regards,

Krishna

[Guest guest]

Dear Ravindramani,

 

I had a specific intention when I posted my comment. I was looking for the

exceptions that would apply to Shri Rama's chart. You have pointed out Jupiter

in Lagna being a possible exception. It could well be a correct obervation. I

knew about it. But, interestingly, earlier I had come across another chart with

both Mars and Jupiter exalted. But, the difference in that case was that Mars

was in Lagna and lagna being aspected by Jupiter. However, it appears that in

this particular case, aspect of Jupiter on lagna did not help as the native

turned out to be a person who used to abuse his wife badly and was prosecuted as

a result. Therefore, I was wondering if there could be other exceptions other

than Jupiter being in Lagna. Hence, I posted my comment.

 

By looking at your response, it appears that you might have misunderstood my

intention. Hope I am clear now. Please note that I don't post anything to

intentionally to hurt anyone. And, I know that I am not going to achieve

anything from that :-)

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- On Wed, 8/10/08, ravindramani <ravindramani wrote:

 

ravindramani <ravindramani

Re: Uccha Bhanga

jyotish-vidya

Wednesday, 8 October, 2008, 1:05 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

You are well aware, if one tries to literally apply those results,

which the astrological classics say, in a chart, for a given

combination, he would certainly fail in his predictions. Classics

say if Jupiter is placed in Lagna, one lakh doshas are mitigated. A

simple principle. There are exceptions to this rule.

 

If two malefics are placed in Lagna and if Jupiter does not influence

the Lagna or the Moon, the native is illegitimate, the classics say.

This is a very simple principle. One classic gives 80 exceptions to

this simple principle.

 

How does one interpret this? This is a single placement and a simple

statement. If one literally applies these rules in charts, what would

happen?

 

We were not analyzing any chart in totality. Vic raised some

question I responded in a general way. That is all. After all it is

a combination. It has a textbook definition and a result is

attributed to that combination. I wrote that.

 

Now, whatever be the reasons and the circumstances, whatever be the

chart of Lord Rama, it is a matter of fact, Lord Rama did suffer for

fourteen years. He was a great prince of a great country. Son of a

great King. He was the son-in-law of a great King, not only a great

King but also a great Rishi. What happened to him? He was asked to

go to the forest. His legitimate right to ascend the throne was

violated. He went with his spouse with single attire. He slept on the

mud floor and lived under the thatched roof. He traveled by foot.

He ate what ever available in the forest from whomsoever and

whatsoever offered. He wandered aimlessly in the forest. Lost his

wife. Took the help of all sorts of animals. A Dhobi humiliated him.

Why all this happened to him. How do you account for these

experiences in his chart? Ordinarily a son of a King need not or

rather not supposed to have endured all these.

 

You know pretty well how a chart is analysed in its entirety, be it

is a chart of Lord Rama or a chart of a common man. Attributed

results in the classics are not to be applied literally but

liberally.

 

All the above, I do not consider myself competent to examine the

charts of Avataras.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

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Dear Ravindramani,

 

Shri Rama is supposed to have this combination; is it not?

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Krishna,

 

No. Not at all. I did not misunderstand you.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

 

PS: I always want to write one or two line responses. But when I

start writing it turnd out to be a lengthy one. LOL. That is the

problem. You know my chart. LOL :-))

 

Mrs. Wendy has been right in saying that Internet is not the right

medium to convey our ideas. I wanted to convey something else. You

understood something else. LOL :- )) Anyways. Be assured. I did not

misunderstand you.

[Guest guest]

Dear Ravindramani,

 

I am relieved now :-)

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- On Wed, 8/10/08, ravindramani <ravindramani wrote:

 

ravindramani <ravindramani

Re: Uccha Bhanga

jyotish-vidya

Wednesday, 8 October, 2008, 2:17 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

No. Not at all. I did not misunderstand you.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

 

PS: I always want to write one or two line responses. But when I

start writing it turnd out to be a lengthy one. LOL. That is the

problem. You know my chart. LOL :-))

 

Mrs. Wendy has been right in saying that Internet is not the right

medium to convey our ideas. I wanted to convey something else. You

understood something else. LOL :- )) Anyways. Be assured. I did not

misunderstand you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

http://messenger./invite/

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Pandiyan,

 

My basic point is that whenever a planet is exalted (in dignity and

possess strength), it should not be influenced by any other planet.

When the exalted planet receives the influence of another exalted

planet, the influence modifies the propensity of the exalted planet

to give the expected results. This is one of the basic ideas behind

how the combination of " Uccha Bhanga " works in a chart.

 

Bankruptcy does not mean the native is going to beg on the streets.

He would be facing the problem of lack of funds. He is in need of

money all the time to meet an exigency, it could be medical expenses

or it could be because of children or it could be because of spouse…

etc. Cast the following chart.

 

Jupiter does not mean only wealth. There are number of other

significations it represent. The house where the Uccha Banga takes

place, that house (that axis) has number of significations. Mars

represents number of significations. Lack of those trends and the

human experiences in life could be the meaning of bankruptcy in a

chart.

 

Male

Nov 9,1954

Time: 5:30 AM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0

Longitude: 79E14 Latitude: 11N08

 

Note the exalted Mars in 4th House. The 2nd lord of accumulated

savings.

 

Note the exalted Jupiter in the 10 house from Lagna. From the Moon he

is in the 5th house. He is always in need of money and makes both

ends meet in a straightforward means. He is an ideal, outspoken,

having spiritual bent of mind. Find out why he is always in need of

money.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

PS: I post this message in the List, if anybody is interested he can

go through it. The old timers may have the data already, I think

once I posted the same data in some other context.