Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Members this is a real story foa human beings unlike the parochoal and currupt politicians, and the left party men as media men who want to find any situation to tarnish BJP and Hindus and Indian dignity and human dignitymore u wont find the secular forces talk on this case or MNS CHEIF. read on- BREAVE AND GREAT HUMAN BEINGS UNSUNG let us talk of such great men and thank them for their courage, selflessness Prashant Mangeshikar could be dead, one of more than a hundred victims of militant attacks across Mumbai landmarks, if it had not been for an employee at the Taj Mahal Hotel. Mangeshikar, his wife and daughter were in the foyer of the 105-year-old hotel on Wednesday night when Islamist gunmen opened indiscriminate fire in one of a series of coordinated attacks in India's financial capital. Recovering from the initial shock and chaos, hotel staff shepherded the guests, including the Mangeshikar family, through the service section upstairs -- only suddenly to come face to face with one of the gunmen. " He looked young and did not speak to us. He just fired. We were in sort of a single file, " Mangeshikar, a 52-year-old gynaecologist, told Reuters. " The man in front of my wife shielded us. He was a maintenance section staff. He took the bullets. " The tale of the unnamed staff member has echoed across Mumbai where, time after time, hotel workers have emerged as the people who shielded, hid or evacuated their wealthy guests from militants at the Taj and Trident/Oberoi hotels. Hotel workers in one case ushered guests into a conference room and then locked the doors to protect them from the militants. The guests were later rescued by the fire brigade. The staff often proved essential, knowing short cuts to safety and where emergency exits were located. SPRAYING BULLETS Within seconds after Mangeshikar's family was saved from the bullets, the guests made a dash for the hotel rooms to hide. Mangeshikar and a few others dragged the wounded hotel employee identified only as " Mr Rajan " into one of the rooms. " His intestine was a lump hanging from a gaping hole in his abdomen, " he said. " The bullet had entered him from close to the spine. " For the next 12 hours, Mangeshikar and other guests surrounded the wounded man trying to push back his intestines with bedsheets and stop the bleeding. He was finally evacuated, but it was not known if he survived. " The hotel staff has been very, very brave, " Mangeshikar said. " Hats off to them. " As the gunmen went around spraying bullets, on another floor hotel staff struggled to secure the doors with bedsheets and put tables and beds against the doors. Televisions had gone off. Power also went out. Some people tried desperately to call their family on cell phones. Kanda Noriyaki, a chef at the hotel's Japanese restaurant, led guests trembling and screaming with fear to safety. " We hid in the restaurant, " Noriyaki told Reuters. " We could hear the firing somewhere very close. Intermittently, there were blasts. " Many evacuees from the hotel hailed the bravery of the staff. " Just imagine, they even served us food the first few hours, " said a hotel guest, who did not wish to be named. " Only when the kitchens became out of bounds did they express regret for not being able to serve us food. " One person recounted how Taj staff stopped panicky guests from rushing into the lobby where militants could have shot them. " They were brilliant, " Bhisham Mansukhani told the Mail Today. " If they hadn't kept their cool, many more lives would have been lost. " The wife and children of the Taj's general manager who lived on the hotel premises were killed in the attacks. Witnesses said many trainee chefs had been killed in the kitchen of the Taj. Mangeshikar said that, but for the courage of Mr. Rajan, his wife and daughter could have been dead. " I'm going out today to the hospital to find out what happened to him, " he said. " I owe it to that brave man. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Dear Prashant, Thank you for all your efforts and keeping the list well informed with an observant and critical guide. India is an ally around the world and we all grieve for your country and countrymen. I think it is too shocking at this time to try and delineate a Prasna chart for the horrific events that has been acted out against your country and innocent people. However, we all need to be focused on the very real fact that evil does exists everywhere and now is the time to mourn before we dwell into the particulars of Jyotish events or predictions. I truly feel that some events happen on a collective result of few who have a direct hate against others. How we define a personal vendetta or a political stance for self or any one religion or belief in explanation through Jyotish is yet to be fully comprehended by all. In the meantime, our hearts and love go out to Mumbai and the other 6 areas of destruction and death that has effected so many in India. In sympathy, Uttara " Three things that cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the truth " Guatama Buddha ________________________________ astro desk <astro.prashantkumar jyotish-vidya ; Friday, November 28, 2008 10:29:50 AM Staff emerge as heroes in Mumbai hotel sieges 28/11 Members this is a real story foa human beings unlike the parochoal and currupt politicians, and the left party men as media men who want to find any situation to tarnish BJP and Hindus and Indian dignity and human dignitymore u wont find the secular forces talk on this case or MNS CHEIF. read on- BREAVE AND GREAT HUMAN BEINGS UNSUNG let us talk of such great men and thank them for their courage, selflessness Prashant Mangeshikar could be dead, one of more than a hundred victims of militant attacks across Mumbai landmarks, if it had not been for an employee at the Taj Mahal Hotel. Mangeshikar, his wife and daughter were in the foyer of the 105-year-old hotel on Wednesday night when Islamist gunmen opened indiscriminate fire in one of a series of coordinated attacks in India's financial capital. Recovering from the initial shock and chaos, hotel staff shepherded the guests, including the Mangeshikar family, through the service section upstairs -- only suddenly to come face to face with one of the gunmen. " He looked young and did not speak to us. He just fired. We were in sort of a single file, " Mangeshikar, a 52-year-old gynaecologist, told Reuters. " The man in front of my wife shielded us. He was a maintenance section staff. He took the bullets. " The tale of the unnamed staff member has echoed across Mumbai where, time after time, hotel workers have emerged as the people who shielded, hid or evacuated their wealthy guests from militants at the Taj and Trident/Oberoi hotels. Hotel workers in one case ushered guests into a conference room and then locked the doors to protect them from the militants. The guests were later rescued by the fire brigade. The staff often proved essential, knowing short cuts to safety and where emergency exits were located. SPRAYING BULLETS Within seconds after Mangeshikar' s family was saved from the bullets, the guests made a dash for the hotel rooms to hide. Mangeshikar and a few others dragged the wounded hotel employee identified only as " Mr Rajan " into one of the rooms. " His intestine was a lump hanging from a gaping hole in his abdomen, " he said. " The bullet had entered him from close to the spine. " For the next 12 hours, Mangeshikar and other guests surrounded the wounded man trying to push back his intestines with bedsheets and stop the bleeding. He was finally evacuated, but it was not known if he survived. " The hotel staff has been very, very brave, " Mangeshikar said. " Hats off to them. " As the gunmen went around spraying bullets, on another floor hotel staff struggled to secure the doors with bedsheets and put tables and beds against the doors. Televisions had gone off. Power also went out. Some people tried desperately to call their family on cell phones. Kanda Noriyaki, a chef at the hotel's Japanese restaurant, led guests trembling and screaming with fear to safety. " We hid in the restaurant, " Noriyaki told Reuters. " We could hear the firing somewhere very close. Intermittently, there were blasts. " Many evacuees from the hotel hailed the bravery of the staff. " Just imagine, they even served us food the first few hours, " said a hotel guest, who did not wish to be named. " Only when the kitchens became out of bounds did they express regret for not being able to serve us food. " One person recounted how Taj staff stopped panicky guests from rushing into the lobby where militants could have shot them. " They were brilliant, " Bhisham Mansukhani told the Mail Today. " If they hadn't kept their cool, many more lives would have been lost. " The wife and children of the Taj's general manager who lived on the hotel premises were killed in the attacks. Witnesses said many trainee chefs had been killed in the kitchen of the Taj. Mangeshikar said that, but for the courage of Mr. Rajan, his wife and daughter could have been dead. " I'm going out today to the hospital to find out what happened to him, " he said. " I owe it to that brave man. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Prashant and All, added comments: //I think it is too shocking at this time to try and delineate a Prasna chart for the horrific events...// Should read - I think it is too shocking at this time to try and delineate a Samhita/Mundane chart for the horrific events.... //Mumbai and the other 6 areas of destruction and death that has effected so many in India.// Should read - Mumbai and the other 10+ areas of destruction and death that has effected so many in India. Bless the unsung hero of Prashant Mangeshikar and others as reported in the article below. How fortunate for many in the Taj and the Trident/Oberoi hotels that these hero's were their angels in a time of unprovoked terror against their person's. Unfortunately, they are few in number against the evil inflicted by others who have no regard for human life or emotional empathy. Political and religious wars will continue as they always have. However, we can empower ourselves with knowledge and forbearance as we become more self aware and God realized through Jyotish study of events and mundane charts long with global prayer and reverence. It is our right of human dignity to preserve and not succumb to the undertones of hatred. Namaste, Uttara p.s. members may want to confirm the start time of the terrorist attack. I have about 22:00:00, 26 Nov 2008. I first heard about it while traveling at 13:30. Which would have been 01:00:00 Mumbai, 27 Nov 2008 " Three things that cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the truth " Guatama Buddha ________________________________ Uttara <muttaraphalguni jyotish-vidya Friday, November 28, 2008 10:02:24 PM Re: Staff emerge as heroes in Mumbai hotel sieges 28/11 Dear Prashant, Thank you for all your efforts and keeping the list well informed with an observant and critical guide. India is an ally around the world and we all grieve for your country and countrymen. I think it is too shocking at this time to try and delineate a Prasna chart for the horrific events that has been acted out against your country and innocent people. However, we all need to be focused on the very real fact that evil does exists everywhere and now is the time to mourn before we dwell into the particulars of Jyotish events or predictions. I truly feel that some events happen on a collective result of few who have a direct hate against others. How we define a personal vendetta or a political stance for self or any one religion or belief in explanation through Jyotish is yet to be fully comprehended by all. In the meantime, our hearts and love go out to Mumbai and the other 6 areas of destruction and death that has effected so many in India. In sympathy, Uttara " Three things that cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the truth " Guatama Buddha ____________ _________ _________ __ astro desk <astro.prashantkumar @gmail.com> jyotish-vidya; ancient_indian_ astrology Friday, November 28, 2008 10:29:50 AM Staff emerge as heroes in Mumbai hotel sieges 28/11 Members this is a real story foa human beings unlike the parochoal and currupt politicians, and the left party men as media men who want to find any situation to tarnish BJP and Hindus and Indian dignity and human dignitymore u wont find the secular forces talk on this case or MNS CHEIF. read on- BREAVE AND GREAT HUMAN BEINGS UNSUNG let us talk of such great men and thank them for their courage, selflessness Prashant Mangeshikar could be dead, one of more than a hundred victims of militant attacks across Mumbai landmarks, if it had not been for an employee at the Taj Mahal Hotel. Mangeshikar, his wife and daughter were in the foyer of the 105-year-old hotel on Wednesday night when Islamist gunmen opened indiscriminate fire in one of a series of coordinated attacks in India's financial capital. Recovering from the initial shock and chaos, hotel staff shepherded the guests, including the Mangeshikar family, through the service section upstairs -- only suddenly to come face to face with one of the gunmen. " He looked young and did not speak to us. He just fired. We were in sort of a single file, " Mangeshikar, a 52-year-old gynaecologist, told Reuters. " The man in front of my wife shielded us. He was a maintenance section staff. He took the bullets. " The tale of the unnamed staff member has echoed across Mumbai where, time after time, hotel workers have emerged as the people who shielded, hid or evacuated their wealthy guests from militants at the Taj and Trident/Oberoi hotels. Hotel workers in one case ushered guests into a conference room and then locked the doors to protect them from the militants. The guests were later rescued by the fire brigade. The staff often proved essential, knowing short cuts to safety and where emergency exits were located. SPRAYING BULLETS Within seconds after Mangeshikar' s family was saved from the bullets, the guests made a dash for the hotel rooms to hide. Mangeshikar and a few others dragged the wounded hotel employee identified only as " Mr Rajan " into one of the rooms. " His intestine was a lump hanging from a gaping hole in his abdomen, " he said. " The bullet had entered him from close to the spine. " For the next 12 hours, Mangeshikar and other guests surrounded the wounded man trying to push back his intestines with bedsheets and stop the bleeding. He was finally evacuated, but it was not known if he survived. " The hotel staff has been very, very brave, " Mangeshikar said. " Hats off to them. " As the gunmen went around spraying bullets, on another floor hotel staff struggled to secure the doors with bedsheets and put tables and beds against the doors. Televisions had gone off. Power also went out. Some people tried desperately to call their family on cell phones. Kanda Noriyaki, a chef at the hotel's Japanese restaurant, led guests trembling and screaming with fear to safety. " We hid in the restaurant, " Noriyaki told Reuters. " We could hear the firing somewhere very close. Intermittently, there were blasts. " Many evacuees from the hotel hailed the bravery of the staff. " Just imagine, they even served us food the first few hours, " said a hotel guest, who did not wish to be named. " Only when the kitchens became out of bounds did they express regret for not being able to serve us food. " One person recounted how Taj staff stopped panicky guests from rushing into the lobby where militants could have shot them. " They were brilliant, " Bhisham Mansukhani told the Mail Today. " If they hadn't kept their cool, many more lives would have been lost. " The wife and children of the Taj's general manager who lived on the hotel premises were killed in the attacks. Witnesses said many trainee chefs had been killed in the kitchen of the Taj. Mangeshikar said that, but for the courage of Mr. Rajan, his wife and daughter could have been dead. " I'm going out today to the hospital to find out what happened to him, " he said. " I owe it to that brave man. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Dear Uttara, yes my point was what u have also endorsed inthe last para this time, we have a tool to use and we have to try at leat whenthe scientific, police intelligence is not used or ignored so will this be, we can indicate with much better accuracy on the date and possible locations like hotels govt buildings , industries, trasnpost areas NO NAMES THOUGH IT IS NOT POSSIBLE AT THE CURRENT MOMENT UNLESS WE REFINE IT BY RESEARCH AND REVERSE ENGINEERING ALL PAST attacks esp Mumbais can be for river waters, , belguam, marathi manos, anti siekh riots, bombay blasts from 93, 2004, 2006, 2008 etc THE CURRENT STRIKES WWERE REPORTED AT 21.15, 21.30., 21.40 HRS mumbai time on 26/11/08 prashant On 11/29/08, Uttara <muttaraphalguni wrote: > > Prashant and All, > > added comments: > > //I think it is too shocking at this time to try and delineate a Prasna > chart for the horrific events...// > > Should read - I think it is too shocking at this time to try and delineate > a Samhita/Mundane chart for the horrific events.... > > //Mumbai and the other 6 areas of destruction and death that has effected > so many in India.// > > Should read - Mumbai and the other 10+ areas of destruction and death that > has effected so many in India. > > Bless the unsung hero of Prashant Mangeshikar and others as reported in the > article below. How fortunate for many in the Taj and the Trident/Oberoi > hotels that these hero's were their angels in a time of unprovoked terror > against their person's. Unfortunately, they are few in number against the > evil inflicted by others who have no regard for human life or emotional > empathy. > > Political and religious wars will continue as they always have. However, we > can empower ourselves with knowledge and forbearance as we become more self > aware and God realized through Jyotish study of events and mundane charts > long with global prayer and reverence. It is our right of human dignity to > preserve and not succumb to the undertones of hatred. > > Namaste, > Uttara > > p.s. members may want to confirm the start time of the terrorist attack. > I have about 22:00:00, 26 Nov 2008. I first heard about it while traveling > at 13:30. Which would have been 01:00:00 Mumbai, 27 Nov 2008 > > " Three things that cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the truth " > Guatama Buddha > > ________________________________ > Uttara <muttaraphalguni <muttaraphalguni%40>> > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > Friday, November 28, 2008 10:02:24 PM > Re: Staff emerge as heroes in Mumbai hotel sieges > 28/11 > > Dear Prashant, > > Thank you for all your efforts and keeping the list well informed with an > observant and critical guide. > > India is an ally around the world and we all grieve for your country and > countrymen. > > I think it is too shocking at this time to try and delineate a Prasna chart > for the horrific events that has been acted out against your country and > innocent people. However, we all need to be focused on the very real fact > that evil does exists everywhere and now is the time to mourn before we > dwell into the particulars of Jyotish events or predictions. > > I truly feel that some events happen on a collective result of few who have > a direct hate against others. How we define a personal vendetta or a > political stance for self or any one religion or belief in explanation > through Jyotish is yet to be fully comprehended by all. > > In the meantime, our hearts and love go out to Mumbai and the other 6 areas > of destruction and death that has effected so many in India. > > In sympathy, > > Uttara > > " Three things that cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the truth " > Guatama Buddha > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > astro desk <astro.prashantkumar @gmail.com> > jyotish-vidya; ancient_indian_ astrology (AT) (DOT) com > Friday, November 28, 2008 10:29:50 AM > Staff emerge as heroes in Mumbai hotel sieges > 28/11 > > Members > > this is a real story foa human beings unlike the parochoal and currupt > politicians, and the left party men as media men who want to find any > situation to tarnish BJP and Hindus and Indian dignity and human > dignitymore > > u wont find the secular forces talk on this case or MNS CHEIF. > > read on- BREAVE AND GREAT HUMAN BEINGS UNSUNG > > let us talk of such great men and thank them for their courage, > selflessness > > Prashant Mangeshikar could be dead, one of more than a hundred victims of > militant attacks across Mumbai landmarks, if it had not been for an > employee > at the Taj Mahal Hotel. > > Mangeshikar, his wife and daughter were in the foyer of the 105-year-old > hotel on Wednesday night when Islamist gunmen opened indiscriminate fire in > one of a series of coordinated attacks in India's financial capital. > > Recovering from the initial shock and chaos, hotel staff shepherded the > guests, including the Mangeshikar family, through the service section > upstairs -- only suddenly to come face to face with one of the gunmen. > > " He looked young and did not speak to us. He just fired. We were in sort of > a single file, " Mangeshikar, a 52-year-old gynaecologist, told Reuters. > " The > man in front of my wife shielded us. He was a maintenance section staff. He > took the bullets. " > > The tale of the unnamed staff member has echoed across Mumbai where, time > after time, hotel workers have emerged as the people who shielded, hid or > evacuated their wealthy guests from militants at the Taj and Trident/Oberoi > hotels. > > Hotel workers in one case ushered guests into a conference room and then > locked the doors to protect them from the militants. The guests were later > rescued by the fire brigade. > > The staff often proved essential, knowing short cuts to safety and where > emergency exits were located. > > SPRAYING BULLETS > > Within seconds after Mangeshikar' s family was saved from the bullets, the > guests made a dash for the hotel rooms to hide. > > Mangeshikar and a few others dragged the wounded hotel employee identified > only as " Mr Rajan " into one of the rooms. > > " His intestine was a lump hanging from a gaping hole in his abdomen, " he > said. " The bullet had entered him from close to the spine. " > > For the next 12 hours, Mangeshikar and other guests surrounded the wounded > man trying to push back his intestines with bedsheets and stop the > bleeding. > He was finally evacuated, but it was not known if he survived. > > " The hotel staff has been very, very brave, " Mangeshikar said. " Hats off to > them. " > > As the gunmen went around spraying bullets, on another floor hotel staff > struggled to secure the doors with bedsheets and put tables and beds > against > the doors. > > Televisions had gone off. Power also went out. Some people tried > desperately > to call their family on cell phones. > > Kanda Noriyaki, a chef at the hotel's Japanese restaurant, led guests > trembling and screaming with fear to safety. > > " We hid in the restaurant, " Noriyaki told Reuters. " We could hear the > firing > somewhere very close. Intermittently, there were blasts. " > > Many evacuees from the hotel hailed the bravery of the staff. > > " Just imagine, they even served us food the first few hours, " said a hotel > guest, who did not wish to be named. " Only when the kitchens became out of > bounds did they express regret for not being able to serve us food. " > > One person recounted how Taj staff stopped panicky guests from rushing into > the lobby where militants could have shot them. > > " They were brilliant, " Bhisham Mansukhani told the Mail Today. " If they > hadn't kept their cool, many more lives would have been lost. " > > The wife and children of the Taj's general manager who lived on the hotel > premises were killed in the attacks. Witnesses said many trainee chefs had > been killed in the kitchen of the Taj. > > Mangeshikar said that, but for the courage of Mr. Rajan, his wife and > daughter could have been dead. > > " I'm going out today to the hospital to find out what happened to him, " he > said. " I owe it to that brave man. " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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