Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Dear Wendyji and the group,  It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon )  How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect?  Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees. How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being always vakri and hence lost the war  Have a horoscope with the said combination,  DOB : 13th Jan 1984 TOB : 2 mins after midnight POB : Patna Lagna : Virgo Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra.  Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards.  Warm Regards  Nilesh  Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Dear Nilesh, Neither the luminaries (Sun/Moon) nor the Nodes (Rahu/Ketu) are involved in planetary war. Time permitting I'll take a look at the chart tomorrow as it's getting rather late here now... Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27 <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:31 PM Planterary Wars Dear Wendyji and the group, It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon ) How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect? Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees. How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being always vakri and hence lost the war Have a horoscope with the said combination, DOB : 13th Jan 1984 TOB : 2 mins after midnight POB : Patna Lagna : Virgo Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra. Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards. Warm Regards Nilesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Thanks Wendyji  Best Regards  Nilesh --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Planterary Wars jyotish-vidya Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:17 PM Dear Nilesh, Neither the luminaries (Sun/Moon) nor the Nodes (Rahu/Ketu) are involved in planetary war. Time permitting I'll take a look at the chart tomorrow as it's getting rather late here now... Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ ___ - " nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in> <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:31 PM Planterary Wars Dear Wendyji and the group, It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon ) How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect? Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees. How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being always vakri and hence lost the war Have a horoscope with the said combination, DOB : 13th Jan 1984 TOB : 2 mins after midnight POB : Patna Lagna : Virgo Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra. Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards. Warm Regards Nilesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Dear Nilesh, As per my understanding only non-luminous, physical planets are involved in Planetary war. That excludes Sun, Moon, Rahu and Ketu. Also, as per my understanding the planet that has traveled more wins the war. I don't have any reference to what I have said about who wins. Do you have any references for your understanding? Regards, Krishna On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:01 PM, nilesh joshi <niljoshi27wrote: > Dear Wendyji and the group, > > It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or > less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less > winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon ) > > How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect? > > Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in > Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees. > How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we > look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being > always vakri and hence lost the war > > Have a horoscope with the said combination, > > DOB : 13th Jan 1984 > TOB : 2 mins after midnight > POB : Patna > Lagna : Virgo > Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra. > > Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with > rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards. > > Warm Regards > > Nilesh > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at > http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Dear Krishna, I have 2 references - Brihat Jataka S.Rao ( grandfather of B.V.Raman)and Astrology by the Sears - David Frawley Both say the planet that has traveresed less degrees is the winner. where as David Frawley says Sun and the moon are excluded from this Brihat Jataka has hardly any reference of Rahu and ketu. Hence my question about Rahu and ketu for planetary wars. Best Regards Nilesh --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 Re: Planterary Wars jyotish-vidya Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:41 PM Dear Nilesh, As per my understanding only non-luminous, physical planets are involved in Planetary war. That excludes Sun, Moon, Rahu and Ketu. Also, as per my understanding the planet that has traveled more wins the war. I don't have any reference to what I have said about who wins. Do you have any references for your understanding? Regards, Krishna On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:01 PM, nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote: > Dear Wendyji and the group, > > It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or > less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less > winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon ) > > How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect? > > Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in > Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees. > How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we > look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being > always vakri and hence lost the war > > Have a horoscope with the said combination, > > DOB : 13th Jan 1984 > TOB : 2 mins after midnight > POB : Patna > Lagna : Virgo > Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra. > > Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with > rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards. > > Warm Regards > > Nilesh > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at > http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Respected gurujans, i.e. all brthers and sisters, when we are discussing, P.W. for yr informations. please note today I have come back home and rest for 6 weks - after a operation - went into hospital on Tuesdat 6th jan 2009 - arrived 11/01/2009 asc LEO MOST OF U HAVE BIRTH DETAILS - BUT IN CASE IF ANYONE WANTS TO STUDY THAN IT IS AS FOLLOWS ; DOB 18 /08 / 1931 POB KARACHI [ NOW IN PAKISTAN] TOB 08 / 00 A.M. WITH LOVER AND REGARDS TO ALL OF U - PDK vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: Dear Mr Nilesh Ji and others very interesting question and classicals too mentioned that these nodal planets when they are in sign also assme the behaviour of the lords of those house.so ketu acts like mars.The relation of mars with venus not being friendly the bahva gets afflicted.Incase of rahu in taurus the behaviour tends to be like saturn,a friend of venus lord of the house.The shadow plnets are not considered for graha yuddha/planetary wars'coz as they behave basically like saturn and mars and always in retrograde motion.Any conflict however stems with relationships and houses they occupy with their lords regards vrkrishnan ________________________________ nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 jyotish-vidya Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:01:42 PM Planterary Wars Dear Wendyji and the group, It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon ) How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect? Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees. How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being always vakri and hence lost the war Have a horoscope with the said combination, DOB : 13th Jan 1984 TOB : 2 mins after midnight POB : Patna Lagna : Virgo Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra. Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards. Warm Regards Nilesh Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Dear Shri Kotak Ji, Please take rest and post operative care.We paray for your speedy recovery.Planets do convey impending things.It is for the Almighty to make us understand.Let's continue to be gateful to him and pray for things to take place with happiness and joy. All the best regards vrkrishnan ________________________________ pdk kotak <ganeshji101 jyotish-vidya Monday, January 12, 2009 1:21:29 AM Re: Planterary Wars Respected gurujans, i.e. all brthers and sisters, when we are discussing, P.W. for yr informations. please note today I have come back home and rest for 6 weks - after a operation - went into hospital on Tuesdat 6th jan 2009 - arrived 11/01/2009 asc LEO MOST OF U HAVE BIRTH DETAILS - BUT IN CASE IF ANYONE WANTS TO STUDY THAN IT IS AS FOLLOWS ; DOB 18 /08 / 1931 POB KARACHI [ NOW IN PAKISTAN] TOB 08 / 00 A.M. WITH LOVER AND REGARDS TO ALL OF U - PDK vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote: Dear Mr Nilesh Ji and others very interesting question and classicals too mentioned that these nodal planets when they are in sign also assme the behaviour of the lords of those house.so ketu acts like mars.The relation of mars with venus not being friendly the bahva gets afflicted.Incase of rahu in taurus the behaviour tends to be like saturn,a friend of venus lord of the house.The shadow plnets are not considered for graha yuddha/planetary wars'coz as they behave basically like saturn and mars and always in retrograde motion.Any conflict however stems with relationships and houses they occupy with their lords regards vrkrishnan ____________ _________ _________ __ nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in> jyotish-vidya Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:01:42 PM Planterary Wars Dear Wendyji and the group, It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon ) How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect? Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees. How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being always vakri and hence lost the war Have a horoscope with the said combination, DOB : 13th Jan 1984 TOB : 2 mins after midnight POB : Patna Lagna : Virgo Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra. Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards. Warm Regards Nilesh Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Dear Nilesh, I have copy of " Brihat Jataka " by S Rao. I looked into it and this is what I found: " When two or more planets join, he who has the *most southern position*there, who shakes, who appears small and whose rays are lusterless, and who has deviated from his orbital line and whose color has changed, is said, by astrological adepts, as the planet who has *suffered defeat* in the planetary conjunction. " The question is, I am not sure how to interpret " *most southern position* " . Should we read it as the one which has traversed less? Regards, Krishna On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:36 AM, nilesh joshi <niljoshi27wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > I have 2 references - > > Brihat Jataka S.Rao ( grandfather of B.V.Raman)and Astrology by the Sears - > David Frawley > > Both say the planet that has traveresed less degrees is the winner. > where as David Frawley says Sun and the moon are excluded from this Brihat > Jataka has hardly any reference of Rahu and ketu. > > Hence my question about Rahu and ketu for planetary wars. > > Best Regards > > Nilesh > > > > --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com> > > > > Re: Planterary Wars > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:41 PM > > > Dear Nilesh, > > As per my understanding only non-luminous, physical planets are involved in > Planetary war. That excludes Sun, Moon, Rahu and Ketu. Also, as per my > understanding the planet that has traveled more wins the war. I don't have > any reference to what I have said about who wins. Do you have any > references > for your understanding? > > Regards, > Krishna > > On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:01 PM, nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in > >wrote: > > > Dear Wendyji and the group, > > > > It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or > > less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less > > winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon ) > > > > How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect? > > > > Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in > > Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees. > > How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do > we > > look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it > being > > always vakri and hence lost the war > > > > Have a horoscope with the said combination, > > > > DOB : 13th Jan 1984 > > TOB : 2 mins after midnight > > POB : Patna > > Lagna : Virgo > > Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra. > > > > Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with > > rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards. > > > > Warm Regards > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at > > http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Dear pdk, All my best that your recovery will continue to go well and that you gain the added strength and good health you deserve. As Always, Uttara " " " 'Three things that cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the truth " Guatama Buddha --- On Sun, 1/11/09, pdk kotak <ganeshji101 wrote: pdk kotak <ganeshji101 Re: Planterary Wars jyotish-vidya Sunday, January 11, 2009, 1:51 PM Respected gurujans, i.e. all brthers and sisters, when we are discussing, P.W. for yr informations. please note today I have come back home and rest for 6 weks - after a operation - went into hospital on Tuesdat 6th jan 2009 - arrived 11/01/2009 asc LEO MOST OF U HAVE BIRTH DETAILS - BUT IN CASE IF ANYONE WANTS TO STUDY THAN IT IS AS FOLLOWS ; DOB 18 /08 / 1931 POB KARACHI [ NOW IN PAKISTAN] TOB 08 / 00 A.M. WITH LOVER AND REGARDS TO ALL OF U - PDK vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote: Dear Mr Nilesh Ji and others very interesting question and classicals too mentioned that these nodal planets when they are in sign also assme the behaviour of the lords of those house.so ketu acts like mars.The relation of mars with venus not being friendly the bahva gets afflicted.Incase of rahu in taurus the behaviour tends to be like saturn,a friend of venus lord of the house.The shadow plnets are not considered for graha yuddha/planetary wars'coz as they behave basically like saturn and mars and always in retrograde motion.Any conflict however stems with relationships and houses they occupy with their lords regards vrkrishnan ____________ _________ _________ __ nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in> jyotish-vidya Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:01:42 PM Planterary Wars Dear Wendyji and the group, It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon ) How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect? Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees. How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being always vakri and hence lost the war Have a horoscope with the said combination, DOB : 13th Jan 1984 TOB : 2 mins after midnight POB : Patna Lagna : Virgo Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra. Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards. Warm Regards Nilesh Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Dear Nilesh, Krishna and All, Here are some references to " Planetary War " in BPHS. See below... http://jyotishvidya.com/ch11.htm 14-16. PROSPERITY OR ANNIHILATION OF A HOUSE: Predict prosperity of the house which is conjunct or is aspected by a benefic. Also when its lord is in Yuvavastha or in Prabuddhavastha or in Kaumaravastha or in the 10th house, the bhava's well being is indicated. The bhava which is not aspect by its lord or whose lord is with a malefic planet or with one of the lords of evil and such other houses (i.e. 3rd, 6th, 8th, 11th, and 12th) or is defeated in a planetary war or is in one of the three Avasthas, viz. Vriddhavastha, Mritavastha, and Suptavastha. http://jyotishvidya.com/ch27.htm 20. PLANETARY WAR: Should there be a war between the starry planets (i.e. between 2 planets from Mars to Saturn, in a given horoscope), the difference between the Shadbalas of the two should be added to the victor's Shadbala and deducted from the Shadbala of the vanquished. http://jyotishvidya.com/ch79.htm 9. There is planetary war, if Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani are together (within one degree of each other), Sukr is the conquerer, whether he is in North, or South, but amongst the other four only one, who is in the North, is the conquerer and that in the South is considered defeated in the planetary war. Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27 <jyotish-vidya > Monday, January 12, 2009 4:06 AM Re: Planterary Wars Dear Krishna, I have 2 references - Brihat Jataka S.Rao ( grandfather of B.V.Raman)and Astrology by the Sears - David Frawley Both say the planet that has traveresed less degrees is the winner. where as David Frawley says Sun and the moon are excluded from this Brihat Jataka has hardly any reference of Rahu and ketu. Hence my question about Rahu and ketu for planetary wars. Best Regards Nilesh --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 Re: Planterary Wars jyotish-vidya Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:41 PM Dear Nilesh, As per my understanding only non-luminous, physical planets are involved in Planetary war. That excludes Sun, Moon, Rahu and Ketu. Also, as per my understanding the planet that has traveled more wins the war. I don't have any reference to what I have said about who wins. Do you have any references for your understanding? Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Dear Mrs. Wendy, When we say the planet which is in the north defeats the one in the south, how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the longitudes of the planets? Regards, Krishna On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyawrote: > Dear Nilesh, Krishna and All, > > Here are some references to " Planetary War " in BPHS. > See below... > > http://jyotishvidya.com/ch11.htm > 14-16. PROSPERITY OR ANNIHILATION OF A HOUSE: > Predict prosperity of the house which is conjunct or is aspected by a > benefic. Also when its lord is in Yuvavastha or in Prabuddhavastha or in > Kaumaravastha or in the 10th house, the bhava's well being is indicated. > The > bhava which is not aspect by its lord or whose lord is with a malefic > planet > or with one of the lords of evil and such other houses (i.e. 3rd, 6th, 8th, > 11th, and 12th) or is defeated in a planetary war or is in one of the three > Avasthas, viz. Vriddhavastha, Mritavastha, and Suptavastha. > > http://jyotishvidya.com/ch27.htm > 20. PLANETARY WAR: > Should there be a war between the starry planets (i.e. between 2 planets > from Mars to Saturn, in a given horoscope), the difference between the > Shadbalas of the two should be added to the victor's Shadbala and deducted > from the Shadbala of the vanquished. > > http://jyotishvidya.com/ch79.htm > 9. There is planetary war, if Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani are > together > (within one degree of each other), Sukr is the conquerer, whether he is in > North, or South, but amongst the other four only one, who is in the North, > is the conquerer and that in the South is considered defeated in the > planetary war. > > > Best Wishes, > Mrs.Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ________________________ > > - > " nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27 <niljoshi27%40.co.in>> > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > Monday, January 12, 2009 4:06 AM > Re: Planterary Wars > > Dear Krishna, > > I have 2 references - > > Brihat Jataka S.Rao ( grandfather of B.V.Raman)and Astrology by the Sears - > David Frawley > > Both say the planet that has traveresed less degrees is the winner. > where as David Frawley says Sun and the moon are excluded from this Brihat > Jataka has hardly any reference of Rahu and ketu. > > Hence my question about Rahu and ketu for planetary wars. > > Best Regards > > Nilesh > > --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com> > > > Re: Planterary Wars > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:41 PM > > Dear Nilesh, > > As per my understanding only non-luminous, physical planets are involved in > Planetary war. That excludes Sun, Moon, Rahu and Ketu. Also, as per my > understanding the planet that has traveled more wins the war. I don't have > any reference to what I have said about who wins. Do you have any > references > for your understanding? > > Regards, > Krishna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Dear Krishna, ///how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the longitudes of the planets?/// 'north' and 'south' can only refer to latitude, not longitude... The question of celestial latitude and how to quickly determine it from the horoscope is a tricky one to answer...I'm still working on it! Let me tell you what I know... First it's important to distinguish between geographical latitude (measured N or S of the equator) and celestial latitude (measured N or S of the ecliptic) It's also important BTW to distinguish between declination (which parallels the equator) and celestial latitude. Since the orbit of the planets (from Mars to Saturn), inclined to the ecliptic at an angle of more or less obliquity, each planet, without latitude when they intercept the ecliptic, increases in latitude as it approaches the square to its nodes. One half of its orbit is North latitude, the other half is South. Since the apparent motion of the Sun is in fact the ecliptic, it can have no latitude. As per the above, it seems evident, to me, that two planets (conjunct within 1 degree) can only have different latitudes when very close to the ecliptic. Here's a table with the maximum latitude for the planets...don't know how accurate it is? Mercury = 7deg. Mars = 1.51deg. Jupiter = 1.18deg Venus = 0.24 deg. Saturn = 2.29 deg. In my edition of BPHS, R. Santhanam says in his notes; " Normally, we are taught that when two planets are on the same degree there occurs a war and the one with lesser longitude is declared winner. The luminaries do not enter into war. " He goes on to say that; " The late C.G. Rajan states that if two planets have identical longitudes to the minute of arc there is a planetary war. He adds that they should be on the same latitude i.e. both northern or both southern. The one with higher latitude is declared winner. " It really is a complex issue and I welcome others thoughts on this. Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58 <jyotish-vidya > Monday, January 12, 2009 7:05 PM Re: Planterary Wars Dear Mrs. Wendy, When we say the planet which is in the north defeats the one in the south, how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the longitudes of the planets? Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 ///it seems evident, to me, that two planets (conjunct within 1 degree) can only have different latitudes when very close to the ecliptic./// One slightly above the ecliptic (North), the other slightly below (South). _____________________ Dear Krishna, ///how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the longitudes of the planets?/// 'north' and 'south' can only refer to latitude, not longitude... The question of celestial latitude and how to quickly determine it from the horoscope is a tricky one to answer...I'm still working on it! Let me tell you what I know... First it's important to distinguish between geographical latitude (measured N or S of the equator) and celestial latitude (measured N or S of the ecliptic) It's also important BTW to distinguish between declination (which parallels the equator) and celestial latitude. Since the orbit of the planets (from Mars to Saturn), inclined to the ecliptic at an angle of more or less obliquity, each planet, without latitude when they intercept the ecliptic, increases in latitude as it approaches the square to its nodes. One half of its orbit is North latitude, the other half is South. Since the apparent motion of the Sun is in fact the ecliptic, it can have no latitude. As per the above, it seems evident, to me, that two planets (conjunct within 1 degree) can only have different latitudes when very close to the ecliptic. Here's a table with the maximum latitude for the planets...don't know how accurate it is? Mercury = 7deg. Mars = 1.51deg. Jupiter = 1.18deg Venus = 0.24 deg. Saturn = 2.29 deg. In my edition of BPHS, R. Santhanam says in his notes; " Normally, we are taught that when two planets are on the same degree there occurs a war and the one with lesser longitude is declared winner. The luminaries do not enter into war. " He goes on to say that; " The late C.G. Rajan states that if two planets have identical longitudes to the minute of arc there is a planetary war. He adds that they should be on the same latitude i.e. both northern or both southern. The one with higher latitude is declared winner. " It really is a complex issue and I welcome others thoughts on this. Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58 <jyotish-vidya > Monday, January 12, 2009 7:05 PM Re: Planterary Wars Dear Mrs. Wendy, When we say the planet which is in the north defeats the one in the south, how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the longitudes of the planets? Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Dear Nilesh, Before I forget completely to respond to this, I would like to point out the importance of Vimshamsha (D20), in conjunction with rasi, when determining spiritual progress during a particular dasa. Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27 <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:51 PM Re: Planterary Wars Thanks Wendyji Best Regards Nilesh --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Planterary Wars jyotish-vidya Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:17 PM Dear Nilesh, Neither the luminaries (Sun/Moon) nor the Nodes (Rahu/Ketu) are involved in planetary war. Time permitting I'll take a look at the chart tomorrow as it's getting rather late here now... Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ ___ - " nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in> <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:31 PM Planterary Wars Dear Wendyji and the group, It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon ) How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect? Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees. How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being always vakri and hence lost the war Have a horoscope with the said combination, DOB : 13th Jan 1984 TOB : 2 mins after midnight POB : Patna Lagna : Virgo Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra. Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards. Warm Regards Nilesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Dear Wendyji,  That is a good point that I didnot know  Best Regards  Nilesh --- On Wed, 14/1/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Planterary Wars jyotish-vidya Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 10:38 AM Dear Nilesh, Before I forget completely to respond to this, I would like to point out the importance of Vimshamsha (D20), in conjunction with rasi, when determining spiritual progress during a particular dasa. Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ ___ - " nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in> <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:51 PM Re: Planterary Wars Thanks Wendyji Best Regards Nilesh --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@ bigpond.com> wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@ bigpond.com> Re: Planterary Wars jyotish-vidya Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:17 PM Dear Nilesh, Neither the luminaries (Sun/Moon) nor the Nodes (Rahu/Ketu) are involved in planetary war. Time permitting I'll take a look at the chart tomorrow as it's getting rather late here now... Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ ___ - " nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27@ . co.in> <jyotish-vidya> Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:31 PM Planterary Wars Dear Wendyji and the group, It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon ) How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect? Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees. How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being always vakri and hence lost the war Have a horoscope with the said combination, DOB : 13th Jan 1984 TOB : 2 mins after midnight POB : Patna Lagna : Virgo Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra. Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards. Warm Regards Nilesh Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Dear Mrs. Wendy, Sorry for the delay in acknowledging your reply as my internet connection is down (and it is still down) and I am writing this from a cyber cafe. I have come across the use of latitude of planets for the first time and hence could not properly understand what is the meaning of north or south. Thanks a lot for providing necessary info. That means it is irrelevant that how much a planet has traveled (in terms of longitude). This is what most astrologers use to determine the winner of planetary war. I guess this is absolutely wrong. I too have a planetary war going on between Mercury and Venus in my chart. According to Parashara Venus is always the winner. What do you think is the effect of Mercury losing the war in my case? Regards, Krsihna On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyawrote: > Dear Krishna, > > ///how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the > longitudes of the planets?/// > > 'north' and 'south' can only refer to latitude, not longitude... > > The question of celestial latitude and how to quickly determine > it from the horoscope is a tricky one to answer...I'm still working on it! > > Let me tell you what I know... > First it's important to distinguish between geographical latitude (measured > N or S of the equator) and celestial latitude (measured N or S of the > ecliptic) > > It's also important BTW to distinguish between declination (which parallels > the equator) and celestial latitude. > > Since the orbit of the planets (from Mars to Saturn), inclined to the > ecliptic at an angle of more or less obliquity, each planet, without > latitude when they intercept the ecliptic, increases in latitude as it > approaches the square to its nodes. One half of its orbit is North > latitude, > the other half is South. Since the apparent motion of the Sun is in fact > the > ecliptic, it can have no latitude. > > As per the above, it seems evident, to me, that two planets (conjunct > within > 1 degree) can only have different latitudes when very close to the > ecliptic. > Here's a table with the maximum latitude for the planets...don't know how > accurate it is? > > Mercury = 7deg. > Mars = 1.51deg. > Jupiter = 1.18deg > Venus = 0.24 deg. > Saturn = 2.29 deg. > > In my edition of BPHS, R. Santhanam says in his notes; > " Normally, we are taught that when two planets are on the same degree there > occurs a war and the one with lesser longitude is declared winner. The > luminaries do not enter into war. " He goes on to say that; > " The late C.G. Rajan states that if two planets have identical longitudes > to > the minute of arc there is a planetary war. He adds that they should be on > the same latitude i.e. both northern or both southern. The one with higher > latitude is declared winner. " > > It really is a complex issue and I welcome others thoughts on this. > > > Best Wishes, > Mrs.Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ________________________ > > - > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com> > > > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > Monday, January 12, 2009 7:05 PM > Re: Planterary Wars > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > When we say the planet which is in the north defeats the one in the south, > how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the > longitudes of the planets? > > Regards, > Krishna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Dear Krishna, Time is running away from me, I'm afraid...so very quickly here is an article you might find interesting. http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/dailyjyotish-040406.htm Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58 <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:06 PM Re: Planterary Wars Dear Mrs. Wendy, Sorry for the delay in acknowledging your reply as my internet connection is down (and it is still down) and I am writing this from a cyber cafe. I have come across the use of latitude of planets for the first time and hence could not properly understand what is the meaning of north or south. Thanks a lot for providing necessary info. That means it is irrelevant that how much a planet has traveled (in terms of longitude). This is what most astrologers use to determine the winner of planetary war. I guess this is absolutely wrong. I too have a planetary war going on between Mercury and Venus in my chart. According to Parashara Venus is always the winner. What do you think is the effect of Mercury losing the war in my case? Regards, Krsihna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Dear Mrs. Wendy, It is nice to be back on-line after few days of inefficiency of my service provider. Thanks for the link. That gives a very comprehensive picture of the whole issue. However, the issue remains unresolved :-( Regards, Krishna On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyawrote: > Dear Krishna, > > Time is running away from me, I'm afraid...so very quickly here is an > article you might find interesting. > http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/dailyjyotish-040406.htm > > > Best Wishes, > Mrs.Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ________________________ > > - > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com> > > > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:06 PM > Re: Planterary Wars > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > Sorry for the delay in acknowledging your reply as my internet connection > is > down (and it is still down) and I am writing this from a cyber cafe. > > I have come across the use of latitude of planets for the first time and > hence could not properly understand what is the meaning of north or south. > Thanks a lot for providing necessary info. > > That means it is irrelevant that how much a planet has traveled (in terms > of > longitude). This is what most astrologers use to determine the winner of > planetary war. I guess this is absolutely wrong. > > I too have a planetary war going on between Mercury and Venus in my chart. > According to Parashara Venus is always the winner. What do you think is the > effect of Mercury losing the war in my case? > > Regards, > Krsihna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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