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Dear Wendyji and the group,

 

It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or less

there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less winning the

war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon )

 

How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect?

 

Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in Scorpio

and Venus at 20.3 degrees.

How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we look

at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being always

vakri and hence lost the war

 

Have a horoscope with the said combination,

 

DOB : 13th Jan 1984

TOB : 2 mins after midnight

POB : Patna

Lagna : Virgo

Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra.

 

Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with rahu

in the 9th will not comply with particular standards.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Nilesh,

 

Neither the luminaries (Sun/Moon) nor the Nodes (Rahu/Ketu) are involved in

planetary war.

 

Time permitting I'll take a look at the chart tomorrow as it's getting

rather late here now...

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs.Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

________________________

 

 

-

" nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27

<jyotish-vidya >

Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:31 PM

Planterary Wars

 

 

Dear Wendyji and the group,

 

It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or

less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less

winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon )

 

How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect?

 

Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in

Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees.

How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we

look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being

always vakri and hence lost the war

 

Have a horoscope with the said combination,

 

DOB : 13th Jan 1984

TOB : 2 mins after midnight

POB : Patna

Lagna : Virgo

Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra.

 

Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with

rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

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Thanks Wendyji

 

Best Regards

 

Nilesh

 

--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya

Re: Planterary Wars

jyotish-vidya

Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:17 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Nilesh,

 

Neither the luminaries (Sun/Moon) nor the Nodes (Rahu/Ketu) are involved in

planetary war.

 

Time permitting I'll take a look at the chart tomorrow as it's getting

rather late here now...

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs.Wendy

http://JyotishVidya .com

____________ _________ ___

 

-

" nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

<jyotish-vidya>

Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:31 PM

Planterary Wars

 

Dear Wendyji and the group,

 

It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or

less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less

winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon )

 

How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect?

 

Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in

Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees.

How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we

look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being

always vakri and hence lost the war

 

Have a horoscope with the said combination,

 

DOB : 13th Jan 1984

TOB : 2 mins after midnight

POB : Patna

Lagna : Virgo

Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra.

 

Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with

rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Nilesh,

 

As per my understanding only non-luminous, physical planets are involved in

Planetary war. That excludes Sun, Moon, Rahu and Ketu. Also, as per my

understanding the planet that has traveled more wins the war. I don't have

any reference to what I have said about who wins. Do you have any references

for your understanding?

 

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:01 PM, nilesh joshi <niljoshi27wrote:

 

> Dear Wendyji and the group,

>

> It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or

> less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less

> winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon )

>

> How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect?

>

> Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in

> Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees.

> How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we

> look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being

> always vakri and hence lost the war

>

> Have a horoscope with the said combination,

>

> DOB : 13th Jan 1984

> TOB : 2 mins after midnight

> POB : Patna

> Lagna : Virgo

> Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra.

>

> Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with

> rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards.

>

> Warm Regards

>

> Nilesh

>

>

>

> Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at

> http://in.messenger./?wm=n/

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Dear Krishna,

 

I have 2 references -

 

Brihat Jataka S.Rao ( grandfather of B.V.Raman)and Astrology by the Sears -

David Frawley

 

Both say the planet that has traveresed less degrees is the winner.

where as David Frawley says Sun and the moon are excluded from this Brihat

Jataka has hardly any reference of Rahu and ketu.

 

Hence my question about Rahu and ketu for planetary wars.

 

Best Regards

 

Nilesh

 

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote:

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58

Re: Planterary Wars

jyotish-vidya

Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:41 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Nilesh,

 

As per my understanding only non-luminous, physical planets are involved in

Planetary war. That excludes Sun, Moon, Rahu and Ketu. Also, as per my

understanding the planet that has traveled more wins the war. I don't have

any reference to what I have said about who wins. Do you have any references

for your understanding?

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:01 PM, nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:

 

> Dear Wendyji and the group,

>

> It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or

> less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less

> winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon )

>

> How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect?

>

> Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in

> Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees.

> How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we

> look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being

> always vakri and hence lost the war

>

> Have a horoscope with the said combination,

>

> DOB : 13th Jan 1984

> TOB : 2 mins after midnight

> POB : Patna

> Lagna : Virgo

> Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra.

>

> Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with

> rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards.

>

> Warm Regards

>

> Nilesh

>

>

>

> Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at

> http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

>

>

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Respected gurujans,

i.e. all brthers and sisters,

 

when we are discussing, P.W. for yr informations.

please note today I have come back home and

rest for 6 weks - after a operation -

went into hospital on Tuesdat 6th jan 2009 -

arrived 11/01/2009

asc LEO

 

MOST OF U HAVE BIRTH DETAILS -

BUT IN CASE IF ANYONE WANTS TO STUDY

THAN IT IS AS FOLLOWS ;

DOB 18 /08 / 1931

POB KARACHI [ NOW IN PAKISTAN]

TOB 08 / 00 A.M.

WITH LOVER AND REGARDS TO ALL OF U -

PDK

 

vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

Dear Mr Nilesh Ji and others

very interesting question and classicals too mentioned that these nodal planets

when they are in sign also assme the behaviour of the lords of those house.so

ketu acts like mars.The relation of mars with venus not being friendly the bahva

gets afflicted.Incase of rahu in taurus the behaviour tends to be like saturn,a

friend of venus lord of the house.The shadow plnets are not considered for graha

yuddha/planetary wars'coz as they behave basically like saturn and mars and

always in retrograde motion.Any conflict however stems with relationships and

houses they occupy with their lords

regards

vrkrishnan

 

________________________________

nilesh joshi <niljoshi27

jyotish-vidya

Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:01:42 PM

Planterary Wars

 

Dear Wendyji and the group,

 

It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or less

there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less winning the

war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon )

 

How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect?

 

Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in Scorpio

and Venus at 20.3 degrees.

How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we look

at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being always

vakri and hence lost the war

 

Have a horoscope with the said combination,

 

DOB : 13th Jan 1984

TOB : 2 mins after midnight

POB : Patna

Lagna : Virgo

Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra.

 

Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with rahu

in the 9th will not comply with particular standards.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

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Dear Shri Kotak Ji,

Please take rest and post operative care.We paray for your speedy

recovery.Planets do convey impending things.It is for the Almighty to make us

understand.Let's continue to be gateful to him and pray for things to take place

with happiness and joy.

All the best

regards

vrkrishnan

 

 

 

 

________________________________

pdk kotak <ganeshji101

jyotish-vidya

Monday, January 12, 2009 1:21:29 AM

Re: Planterary Wars

 

 

Respected gurujans,

i.e. all brthers and sisters,

 

when we are discussing, P.W. for yr informations.

please note today I have come back home and

rest for 6 weks - after a operation -

went into hospital on Tuesdat 6th jan 2009 -

arrived 11/01/2009

asc LEO

 

MOST OF U HAVE BIRTH DETAILS -

BUT IN CASE IF ANYONE WANTS TO STUDY

THAN IT IS AS FOLLOWS ;

DOB 18 /08 / 1931

POB KARACHI [ NOW IN PAKISTAN]

TOB 08 / 00 A.M.

WITH LOVER AND REGARDS TO ALL OF U -

PDK

 

vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote:

Dear Mr Nilesh Ji and others

very interesting question and classicals too mentioned that these nodal planets

when they are in sign also assme the behaviour of the lords of those house.so

ketu acts like mars.The relation of mars with venus not being friendly the bahva

gets afflicted.Incase of rahu in taurus the behaviour tends to be like saturn,a

friend of venus lord of the house.The shadow plnets are not considered for graha

yuddha/planetary wars'coz as they behave basically like saturn and mars and

always in retrograde motion.Any conflict however stems with relationships and

houses they occupy with their lords

regards

vrkrishnan

 

____________ _________ _________ __

nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

jyotish-vidya

Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:01:42 PM

Planterary Wars

 

Dear Wendyji and the group,

 

It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or less

there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less winning the

war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon )

 

How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect?

 

Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in Scorpio

and Venus at 20.3 degrees.

How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we look

at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being always

vakri and hence lost the war

 

Have a horoscope with the said combination,

 

DOB : 13th Jan 1984

TOB : 2 mins after midnight

POB : Patna

Lagna : Virgo

Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra.

 

Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with rahu

in the 9th will not comply with particular standards.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

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Dear Nilesh,

 

I have copy of " Brihat Jataka " by S Rao. I looked into it and this is what I

found:

 

" When two or more planets join, he who has the *most southern

position*there, who shakes, who appears small and whose rays are

lusterless, and who

has deviated from his orbital line and whose color has changed, is said, by

astrological adepts, as the planet who has *suffered defeat* in the

planetary conjunction. "

 

The question is, I am not sure how to interpret " *most southern position* " .

Should we read it as the one which has traversed less?

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:36 AM, nilesh joshi <niljoshi27wrote:

 

> Dear Krishna,

>

> I have 2 references -

>

> Brihat Jataka S.Rao ( grandfather of B.V.Raman)and Astrology by the Sears -

> David Frawley

>

> Both say the planet that has traveresed less degrees is the winner.

> where as David Frawley says Sun and the moon are excluded from this Brihat

> Jataka has hardly any reference of Rahu and ketu.

>

> Hence my question about Rahu and ketu for planetary wars.

>

> Best Regards

>

> Nilesh

>

>

>

> --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com>

> >

>

> Re: Planterary Wars

> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>

> Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:41 PM

>

>

> Dear Nilesh,

>

> As per my understanding only non-luminous, physical planets are involved in

> Planetary war. That excludes Sun, Moon, Rahu and Ketu. Also, as per my

> understanding the planet that has traveled more wins the war. I don't have

> any reference to what I have said about who wins. Do you have any

> references

> for your understanding?

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:01 PM, nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in

> >wrote:

>

> > Dear Wendyji and the group,

> >

> > It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or

> > less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less

> > winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon )

> >

> > How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect?

> >

> > Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in

> > Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees.

> > How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do

> we

> > look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it

> being

> > always vakri and hence lost the war

> >

> > Have a horoscope with the said combination,

> >

> > DOB : 13th Jan 1984

> > TOB : 2 mins after midnight

> > POB : Patna

> > Lagna : Virgo

> > Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra.

> >

> > Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with

> > rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards.

> >

> > Warm Regards

> >

> > Nilesh

> >

> >

> >

> > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at

> > http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

> >

> >

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Dear pdk,

 

All my best that your recovery will continue to go well and that you gain the

added strength and good health you deserve.

 

As Always,

Uttara

 

 

 

  " " " 'Three things that cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the truth "  

Guatama Buddha

 

 

--- On Sun, 1/11/09, pdk kotak <ganeshji101 wrote:

 

pdk kotak <ganeshji101

Re: Planterary Wars

jyotish-vidya

Sunday, January 11, 2009, 1:51 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected gurujans,

 

i.e. all brthers and sisters,

 

 

 

when we are discussing, P.W. for yr informations.

 

please note today I have come back home and

 

rest for 6 weks - after a operation -

 

went into hospital on Tuesdat 6th jan 2009 -

 

arrived 11/01/2009

 

asc LEO

 

 

 

MOST OF U HAVE BIRTH DETAILS -

 

BUT IN CASE IF ANYONE WANTS TO STUDY

 

THAN IT IS AS FOLLOWS ;

 

DOB 18 /08 / 1931

 

POB KARACHI [ NOW IN PAKISTAN]

 

TOB 08 / 00 A.M.

 

WITH LOVER AND REGARDS TO ALL OF U -

 

PDK

 

 

 

vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote:

 

Dear Mr Nilesh Ji and others

 

very interesting question and classicals too mentioned that these nodal planets

when they are in sign also assme the behaviour of the lords of those house.so

ketu acts like mars.The relation of mars with venus not being friendly the bahva

gets afflicted.Incase of rahu in taurus the behaviour tends to be like saturn,a

friend of venus lord of the house.The shadow plnets are not considered for graha

yuddha/planetary wars'coz as they behave basically like saturn and mars and

always in retrograde motion.Any conflict however stems with relationships and

houses they occupy with their lords

 

regards

 

vrkrishnan

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

 

jyotish-vidya

 

Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:01:42 PM

 

Planterary Wars

 

 

 

Dear Wendyji and the group,

 

 

 

It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or less

there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less winning the

war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon )

 

 

 

How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect?

 

 

 

Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in Scorpio

and Venus at 20.3 degrees.

 

How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we look

at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being always

vakri and hence lost the war

 

 

 

Have a horoscope with the said combination,

 

 

 

DOB : 13th Jan 1984

 

TOB : 2 mins after midnight

 

POB : Patna

 

Lagna : Virgo

 

Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra.

 

 

 

Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with rahu

in the 9th will not comply with particular standards.

 

 

 

Warm Regards

 

 

 

Nilesh

 

 

 

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Dear Nilesh, Krishna and All,

 

Here are some references to " Planetary War " in BPHS.

See below...

 

http://jyotishvidya.com/ch11.htm

14-16. PROSPERITY OR ANNIHILATION OF A HOUSE:

Predict prosperity of the house which is conjunct or is aspected by a

benefic. Also when its lord is in Yuvavastha or in Prabuddhavastha or in

Kaumaravastha or in the 10th house, the bhava's well being is indicated. The

bhava which is not aspect by its lord or whose lord is with a malefic planet

or with one of the lords of evil and such other houses (i.e. 3rd, 6th, 8th,

11th, and 12th) or is defeated in a planetary war or is in one of the three

Avasthas, viz. Vriddhavastha, Mritavastha, and Suptavastha.

 

http://jyotishvidya.com/ch27.htm

20. PLANETARY WAR:

Should there be a war between the starry planets (i.e. between 2 planets

from Mars to Saturn, in a given horoscope), the difference between the

Shadbalas of the two should be added to the victor's Shadbala and deducted

from the Shadbala of the vanquished.

 

http://jyotishvidya.com/ch79.htm

9. There is planetary war, if Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani are together

(within one degree of each other), Sukr is the conquerer, whether he is in

North, or South, but amongst the other four only one, who is in the North,

is the conquerer and that in the South is considered defeated in the

planetary war.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs.Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

________________________

 

 

-

" nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, January 12, 2009 4:06 AM

Re: Planterary Wars

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

I have 2 references -

 

Brihat Jataka S.Rao ( grandfather of B.V.Raman)and Astrology by the Sears -

David Frawley

 

Both say the planet that has traveresed less degrees is the winner.

where as David Frawley says Sun and the moon are excluded from this Brihat

Jataka has hardly any reference of Rahu and ketu.

 

Hence my question about Rahu and ketu for planetary wars.

 

Best Regards

 

Nilesh

 

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote:

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58

Re: Planterary Wars

jyotish-vidya

Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:41 PM

 

 

Dear Nilesh,

 

As per my understanding only non-luminous, physical planets are involved in

Planetary war. That excludes Sun, Moon, Rahu and Ketu. Also, as per my

understanding the planet that has traveled more wins the war. I don't have

any reference to what I have said about who wins. Do you have any references

for your understanding?

 

Regards,

Krishna

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Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

When we say the planet which is in the north defeats the one in the south,

how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the

longitudes of the planets?

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyawrote:

 

> Dear Nilesh, Krishna and All,

>

> Here are some references to " Planetary War " in BPHS.

> See below...

>

> http://jyotishvidya.com/ch11.htm

> 14-16. PROSPERITY OR ANNIHILATION OF A HOUSE:

> Predict prosperity of the house which is conjunct or is aspected by a

> benefic. Also when its lord is in Yuvavastha or in Prabuddhavastha or in

> Kaumaravastha or in the 10th house, the bhava's well being is indicated.

> The

> bhava which is not aspect by its lord or whose lord is with a malefic

> planet

> or with one of the lords of evil and such other houses (i.e. 3rd, 6th, 8th,

> 11th, and 12th) or is defeated in a planetary war or is in one of the three

> Avasthas, viz. Vriddhavastha, Mritavastha, and Suptavastha.

>

> http://jyotishvidya.com/ch27.htm

> 20. PLANETARY WAR:

> Should there be a war between the starry planets (i.e. between 2 planets

> from Mars to Saturn, in a given horoscope), the difference between the

> Shadbalas of the two should be added to the victor's Shadbala and deducted

> from the Shadbala of the vanquished.

>

> http://jyotishvidya.com/ch79.htm

> 9. There is planetary war, if Mangal, Budh, Guru, Sukr and Sani are

> together

> (within one degree of each other), Sukr is the conquerer, whether he is in

> North, or South, but amongst the other four only one, who is in the North,

> is the conquerer and that in the South is considered defeated in the

> planetary war.

>

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs.Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ________________________

>

> -

> " nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27 <niljoshi27%40.co.in>>

> <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>>

> Monday, January 12, 2009 4:06 AM

> Re: Planterary Wars

>

> Dear Krishna,

>

> I have 2 references -

>

> Brihat Jataka S.Rao ( grandfather of B.V.Raman)and Astrology by the Sears -

> David Frawley

>

> Both say the planet that has traveresed less degrees is the winner.

> where as David Frawley says Sun and the moon are excluded from this Brihat

> Jataka has hardly any reference of Rahu and ketu.

>

> Hence my question about Rahu and ketu for planetary wars.

>

> Best Regards

>

> Nilesh

>

> --- On Sun, 11/1/09, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com>

> >

> Re: Planterary Wars

> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>

> Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:41 PM

>

> Dear Nilesh,

>

> As per my understanding only non-luminous, physical planets are involved in

> Planetary war. That excludes Sun, Moon, Rahu and Ketu. Also, as per my

> understanding the planet that has traveled more wins the war. I don't have

> any reference to what I have said about who wins. Do you have any

> references

> for your understanding?

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Dear Krishna,

 

///how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the

longitudes of the planets?///

 

'north' and 'south' can only refer to latitude, not longitude...

 

The question of celestial latitude and how to quickly determine

it from the horoscope is a tricky one to answer...I'm still working on it!

 

Let me tell you what I know...

First it's important to distinguish between geographical latitude (measured

N or S of the equator) and celestial latitude (measured N or S of the

ecliptic)

 

It's also important BTW to distinguish between declination (which parallels

the equator) and celestial latitude.

 

Since the orbit of the planets (from Mars to Saturn), inclined to the

ecliptic at an angle of more or less obliquity, each planet, without

latitude when they intercept the ecliptic, increases in latitude as it

approaches the square to its nodes. One half of its orbit is North latitude,

the other half is South. Since the apparent motion of the Sun is in fact the

ecliptic, it can have no latitude.

 

As per the above, it seems evident, to me, that two planets (conjunct within

1 degree) can only have different latitudes when very close to the ecliptic.

Here's a table with the maximum latitude for the planets...don't know how

accurate it is?

 

Mercury = 7deg.

Mars = 1.51deg.

Jupiter = 1.18deg

Venus = 0.24 deg.

Saturn = 2.29 deg.

 

In my edition of BPHS, R. Santhanam says in his notes;

" Normally, we are taught that when two planets are on the same degree there

occurs a war and the one with lesser longitude is declared winner. The

luminaries do not enter into war. " He goes on to say that;

" The late C.G. Rajan states that if two planets have identical longitudes to

the minute of arc there is a planetary war. He adds that they should be on

the same latitude i.e. both northern or both southern. The one with higher

latitude is declared winner. "

 

It really is a complex issue and I welcome others thoughts on this.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs.Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

________________________

 

 

-

" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, January 12, 2009 7:05 PM

Re: Planterary Wars

 

 

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

When we say the planet which is in the north defeats the one in the south,

how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the

longitudes of the planets?

 

Regards,

Krishna

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///it seems evident, to me, that two planets (conjunct within

1 degree) can only have different latitudes when very close to the

ecliptic.///

 

One slightly above the ecliptic (North), the other slightly below (South).

_____________________

 

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

///how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the

longitudes of the planets?///

 

'north' and 'south' can only refer to latitude, not longitude...

 

The question of celestial latitude and how to quickly determine

it from the horoscope is a tricky one to answer...I'm still working on it!

 

Let me tell you what I know...

First it's important to distinguish between geographical latitude (measured

N or S of the equator) and celestial latitude (measured N or S of the

ecliptic)

 

It's also important BTW to distinguish between declination (which parallels

the equator) and celestial latitude.

 

Since the orbit of the planets (from Mars to Saturn), inclined to the

ecliptic at an angle of more or less obliquity, each planet, without

latitude when they intercept the ecliptic, increases in latitude as it

approaches the square to its nodes. One half of its orbit is North latitude,

the other half is South. Since the apparent motion of the Sun is in fact the

ecliptic, it can have no latitude.

 

As per the above, it seems evident, to me, that two planets (conjunct within

1 degree) can only have different latitudes when very close to the ecliptic.

Here's a table with the maximum latitude for the planets...don't know how

accurate it is?

 

Mercury = 7deg.

Mars = 1.51deg.

Jupiter = 1.18deg

Venus = 0.24 deg.

Saturn = 2.29 deg.

 

In my edition of BPHS, R. Santhanam says in his notes;

" Normally, we are taught that when two planets are on the same degree there

occurs a war and the one with lesser longitude is declared winner. The

luminaries do not enter into war. " He goes on to say that;

" The late C.G. Rajan states that if two planets have identical longitudes to

the minute of arc there is a planetary war. He adds that they should be on

the same latitude i.e. both northern or both southern. The one with higher

latitude is declared winner. "

 

It really is a complex issue and I welcome others thoughts on this.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs.Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

________________________

 

 

-

" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, January 12, 2009 7:05 PM

Re: Planterary Wars

 

 

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

When we say the planet which is in the north defeats the one in the south,

how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the

longitudes of the planets?

 

Regards,

Krishna

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Dear Nilesh,

 

Before I forget completely to respond to this, I would like to point out the

importance of Vimshamsha (D20), in conjunction with rasi, when determining

spiritual progress during a particular dasa.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs.Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

________________________

 

 

-

" nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27

<jyotish-vidya >

Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:51 PM

Re: Planterary Wars

 

 

Thanks Wendyji

 

Best Regards

 

Nilesh

 

--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya

Re: Planterary Wars

jyotish-vidya

Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:17 PM

 

 

Dear Nilesh,

 

Neither the luminaries (Sun/Moon) nor the Nodes (Rahu/Ketu) are involved in

planetary war.

 

Time permitting I'll take a look at the chart tomorrow as it's getting

rather late here now...

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs.Wendy

http://JyotishVidya .com

____________ _________ ___

 

-

" nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

<jyotish-vidya>

Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:31 PM

Planterary Wars

 

Dear Wendyji and the group,

 

It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or

less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less

winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon )

 

How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect?

 

Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in

Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees.

How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we

look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being

always vakri and hence lost the war

 

Have a horoscope with the said combination,

 

DOB : 13th Jan 1984

TOB : 2 mins after midnight

POB : Patna

Lagna : Virgo

Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra.

 

Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with

rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

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Dear Wendyji,

 

That is a good point that I didnot know

 

Best Regards

 

Nilesh

 

--- On Wed, 14/1/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya

Re: Planterary Wars

jyotish-vidya

Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 10:38 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Nilesh,

 

Before I forget completely to respond to this, I would like to point out the

importance of Vimshamsha (D20), in conjunction with rasi, when determining

spiritual progress during a particular dasa.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs.Wendy

http://JyotishVidya .com

____________ _________ ___

 

-

" nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

<jyotish-vidya>

Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:51 PM

Re: Planterary Wars

 

Thanks Wendyji

 

Best Regards

 

Nilesh

 

--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@ bigpond.com> wrote:

 

Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@ bigpond.com>

Re: Planterary Wars

jyotish-vidya

Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 8:17 PM

 

Dear Nilesh,

 

Neither the luminaries (Sun/Moon) nor the Nodes (Rahu/Ketu) are involved in

planetary war.

 

Time permitting I'll take a look at the chart tomorrow as it's getting

rather late here now...

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs.Wendy

http://JyotishVidya .com

____________ _________ ___

 

-

" nilesh joshi " <niljoshi27@ . co.in>

<jyotish-vidya>

Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:31 PM

Planterary Wars

 

Dear Wendyji and the group,

 

It is said that whenever 2 planets are close to each other at 1 degree or

less there is a planetary war, with the planet that has travelled less

winning the war.(All plantes except Sun and Moon )

 

How do we consider Rahu and Ketu in this respect?

 

Say there is a conjunction of ketu and Venus with ketu at 20.1 deg in

Scorpio and Venus at 20.3 degrees.

How are we to look at -typically ketu is the winner being at 20.1 or do we

look at the fact that it has actually travelled only 9.9 degrees ,it being

always vakri and hence lost the war

 

Have a horoscope with the said combination,

 

DOB : 13th Jan 1984

TOB : 2 mins after midnight

POB : Patna

Lagna : Virgo

Rashi :Aries - Bharani nakshatra.

 

Felt that the native will be spiritual post the dasa of moon, though with

rahu in the 9th will not comply with particular standards.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

Sorry for the delay in acknowledging your reply as my internet connection is

down (and it is still down) and I am writing this from a cyber cafe.

 

I have come across the use of latitude of planets for the first time and

hence could not properly understand what is the meaning of north or south.

Thanks a lot for providing necessary info.

 

That means it is irrelevant that how much a planet has traveled (in terms of

longitude). This is what most astrologers use to determine the winner of

planetary war. I guess this is absolutely wrong.

 

I too have a planetary war going on between Mercury and Venus in my chart.

According to Parashara Venus is always the winner. What do you think is the

effect of Mercury losing the war in my case?

 

Regards,

Krsihna

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyawrote:

 

> Dear Krishna,

>

> ///how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the

> longitudes of the planets?///

>

> 'north' and 'south' can only refer to latitude, not longitude...

>

> The question of celestial latitude and how to quickly determine

> it from the horoscope is a tricky one to answer...I'm still working on it!

>

> Let me tell you what I know...

> First it's important to distinguish between geographical latitude (measured

> N or S of the equator) and celestial latitude (measured N or S of the

> ecliptic)

>

> It's also important BTW to distinguish between declination (which parallels

> the equator) and celestial latitude.

>

> Since the orbit of the planets (from Mars to Saturn), inclined to the

> ecliptic at an angle of more or less obliquity, each planet, without

> latitude when they intercept the ecliptic, increases in latitude as it

> approaches the square to its nodes. One half of its orbit is North

> latitude,

> the other half is South. Since the apparent motion of the Sun is in fact

> the

> ecliptic, it can have no latitude.

>

> As per the above, it seems evident, to me, that two planets (conjunct

> within

> 1 degree) can only have different latitudes when very close to the

> ecliptic.

> Here's a table with the maximum latitude for the planets...don't know how

> accurate it is?

>

> Mercury = 7deg.

> Mars = 1.51deg.

> Jupiter = 1.18deg

> Venus = 0.24 deg.

> Saturn = 2.29 deg.

>

> In my edition of BPHS, R. Santhanam says in his notes;

> " Normally, we are taught that when two planets are on the same degree there

> occurs a war and the one with lesser longitude is declared winner. The

> luminaries do not enter into war. " He goes on to say that;

> " The late C.G. Rajan states that if two planets have identical longitudes

> to

> the minute of arc there is a planetary war. He adds that they should be on

> the same latitude i.e. both northern or both southern. The one with higher

> latitude is declared winner. "

>

> It really is a complex issue and I welcome others thoughts on this.

>

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs.Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ________________________

>

> -

> " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com>

> >

> <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>>

> Monday, January 12, 2009 7:05 PM

> Re: Planterary Wars

>

> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>

> When we say the planet which is in the north defeats the one in the south,

> how do we interpret the words 'north' and 'south' with respect to the

> longitudes of the planets?

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Dear Krishna,

 

Time is running away from me, I'm afraid...so very quickly here is an

article you might find interesting.

http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/dailyjyotish-040406.htm

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs.Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

________________________

 

 

-

" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58

<jyotish-vidya >

Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:06 PM

Re: Planterary Wars

 

 

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

Sorry for the delay in acknowledging your reply as my internet connection is

down (and it is still down) and I am writing this from a cyber cafe.

 

I have come across the use of latitude of planets for the first time and

hence could not properly understand what is the meaning of north or south.

Thanks a lot for providing necessary info.

 

That means it is irrelevant that how much a planet has traveled (in terms of

longitude). This is what most astrologers use to determine the winner of

planetary war. I guess this is absolutely wrong.

 

I too have a planetary war going on between Mercury and Venus in my chart.

According to Parashara Venus is always the winner. What do you think is the

effect of Mercury losing the war in my case?

 

Regards,

Krsihna

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Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

It is nice to be back on-line after few days of inefficiency of my service

provider.

 

Thanks for the link. That gives a very comprehensive picture of the whole

issue. However, the issue remains unresolved :-(

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyawrote:

 

> Dear Krishna,

>

> Time is running away from me, I'm afraid...so very quickly here is an

> article you might find interesting.

> http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/dailyjyotish-040406.htm

>

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs.Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ________________________

>

> -

> " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com>

> >

> <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>>

> Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:06 PM

> Re: Planterary Wars

>

> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>

> Sorry for the delay in acknowledging your reply as my internet connection

> is

> down (and it is still down) and I am writing this from a cyber cafe.

>

> I have come across the use of latitude of planets for the first time and

> hence could not properly understand what is the meaning of north or south.

> Thanks a lot for providing necessary info.

>

> That means it is irrelevant that how much a planet has traveled (in terms

> of

> longitude). This is what most astrologers use to determine the winner of

> planetary war. I guess this is absolutely wrong.

>

> I too have a planetary war going on between Mercury and Venus in my chart.

> According to Parashara Venus is always the winner. What do you think is the

> effect of Mercury losing the war in my case?

>

> Regards,

> Krsihna

>

>

>

 

 

 

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