Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Dear Gaurav, ///however, with due respect I fail to agree with you that nodes have no aspect./// You're perfectly free to have your own opinion. ///Let me quote what an astro classic says about the aspects./// Please name the astro classic you refer to. Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " " <gaurav.ghosh <jyotishvidya Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:43 PM Regarding Nodal aspects ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Ms.Vasicek, Greetings for New Year!! I hope you are doing well. I have gone through your article on Nodal aspects, however, with due respect I fail to agree with you that nodes have no aspect.This is nothing new in vedic astrology. Many astrologers have either ignored this part, or thought it is irrelevent in reading a horoscope. As you know the myth goes about Rahu & ketu(its needless to discuss this here as you have it dedicated as a part of the article). Let me quote what an astro classic says about the aspects. " Suta-Madana-Nabaantepurna drishtih suraaryugala-dashama-raashou drishtipaadatrayaarhah| Sahaja-Ripu-chaturtheshu-astame chaardhadrishtih Sthitibhavanamupaantyam naiva drishyam he raahoh||| The meaning is quite clear:- " Rahu has Full aspect on Suta(that is 5th house from it), Madana(i.e. 7th house from it), Naba(i.e. 9th house) & ante(12th house). He casts three-quarter aspect on " suraaryugala " i.e. 2nd house from it & " Dashame " i.e. " 10th house " from it-- in these 2 rashis he casts " drishtipaadatrayaarhah " ---3/4th aspect. " Sahaja " i.e. in 3rd, " Ripu " i.e. in 6th, Chaturtha i.e. in 4th house, " Astame " i.e. in 8th house---- " eshu chaardhadrishtih " -- in these houses, calculated from Rahu, he gives 1/2 aspect. Where he doesn't aspect??? " Shitibhavan " i.e. where Rahu himself is posited & " Upaantyam " i.e. in 11th house he doesn't aspect. However, Ketu doesn't aspect, for obvious reasons. However, many people are of the opinion that Rahu aspects like the other 7 planets do, though the former has retrograde motion. You can see it with your database & its effects. I know you are highly experienced than me, who is a novice in this ocean of astrology. Thank you, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Thank you Gaurav, I have Jataka Parijata opened at sloka 30/31 (Adh.11) as I type. However there is no mention of Rahu aspects in either sloka. The authors notes below (not original sloka) refer to some Parasara text, however where to find this particular text is unclear...?? Perhaps you could point me to the relevant (Parasara) chapter and verse... Many Thanks, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " " <gaurav.ghosh " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya Cc: " Jyotish-Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:52 PM Re: Regarding Nodal aspects ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mrs.Vasicek, I classic I am referring to is from Brihat parasara hora sastra, translated by Late Shri Sitaram Shastri(Varanasi publication). If you dont possess that text, no issues. please refer to Jatak Parijata, translated by Late Shree V.Subramanya Sastri(Ranjan Publication), Chapter 2, the excerpt is given as a commentary from various resources, Sloka no. is 30-31, pg no is 65, (2004 edition). I hope this helps. Thank you, Gaurav. ************** ** ************** --- On Wed, 14/1/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Regarding Nodal aspects " " <gaurav.ghosh Cc: " Jyotish-Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 12:48 PM Dear Gaurav, ///however, with due respect I fail to agree with you that nodes have no aspect./// You're perfectly free to have your own opinion. ///Let me quote what an astro classic says about the aspects./// Please name the astro classic you refer to. Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " " <gaurav.ghosh <jyotishvidya Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:43 PM Regarding Nodal aspects ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Ms.Vasicek, Greetings for New Year!! I hope you are doing well. I have gone through your article on Nodal aspects, however, with due respect I fail to agree with you that nodes have no aspect.This is nothing new in vedic astrology. Many astrologers have either ignored this part, or thought it is irrelevent in reading a horoscope. As you know the myth goes about Rahu & ketu(its needless to discuss this here as you have it dedicated as a part of the article). Let me quote what an astro classic says about the aspects. " Suta-Madana-Nabaantepurna drishtih suraaryugala-dashama-raashou drishtipaadatrayaarhah| Sahaja-Ripu-chaturtheshu-astame chaardhadrishtih Sthitibhavanamupaantyam naiva drishyam he raahoh||| The meaning is quite clear:- " Rahu has Full aspect on Suta(that is 5th house from it), Madana(i.e. 7th house from it), Naba(i.e. 9th house) & ante(12th house). He casts three-quarter aspect on " suraaryugala " i.e. 2nd house from it & " Dashame " i.e. " 10th house " from it-- in these 2 rashis he casts " drishtipaadatrayaarhah " ---3/4th aspect. " Sahaja " i.e. in 3rd, " Ripu " i.e. in 6th, Chaturtha i.e. in 4th house, " Astame " i.e. in 8th house---- " eshu chaardhadrishtih " -- in these houses, calculated from Rahu, he gives 1/2 aspect. Where he doesn't aspect??? " Shitibhavan " i.e. where Rahu himself is posited & " Upaantyam " i.e. in 11th house he doesn't aspect. However, Ketu doesn't aspect, for obvious reasons. However, many people are of the opinion that Rahu aspects like the other 7 planets do, though the former has retrograde motion. You can see it with your database & its effects. I know you are highly experienced than me, who is a novice in this ocean of astrology. Thank you, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mrs.Vasicek, I classic I am referring to is from Brihat parasara hora sastra, translated by Late Shri Sitaram Shastri(Varanasi publication). If you dont possess that text, no issues. please refer to Jatak Parijata, translated by Late Shree V.Subramanya Sastri(Ranjan Publication), Chapter 2, the excerpt is given as a commentary from various resources, Sloka no. is 30-31, pg no is 65, (2004 edition). I hope this helps. Thank you, Gaurav. ************** ** ************** --- On Wed, 14/1/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Regarding Nodal aspects " " <gaurav.ghosh Cc: " Jyotish-Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 12:48 PM Dear Gaurav, ///however, with due respect I fail to agree with you that nodes have no aspect./// You're perfectly free to have your own opinion. ///Let me quote what an astro classic says about the aspects./// Please name the astro classic you refer to. Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " " <gaurav.ghosh <jyotishvidya Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:43 PM Regarding Nodal aspects ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Ms.Vasicek, Greetings for New Year!! I hope you are doing well. I have gone through your article on Nodal aspects, however, with due respect I fail to agree with you that nodes have no aspect.This is nothing new in vedic astrology. Many astrologers have either ignored this part, or thought it is irrelevent in reading a horoscope. As you know the myth goes about Rahu & ketu(its needless to discuss this here as you have it dedicated as a part of the article). Let me quote what an astro classic says about the aspects. " Suta-Madana-Nabaantepurna drishtih suraaryugala-dashama-raashou drishtipaadatrayaarhah| Sahaja-Ripu-chaturtheshu-astame chaardhadrishtih Sthitibhavanamupaantyam naiva drishyam he raahoh||| The meaning is quite clear:- " Rahu has Full aspect on Suta(that is 5th house from it), Madana(i.e. 7th house from it), Naba(i.e. 9th house) & ante(12th house). He casts three-quarter aspect on " suraaryugala " i.e. 2nd house from it & " Dashame " i.e. " 10th house " from it-- in these 2 rashis he casts " drishtipaadatrayaarhah " ---3/4th aspect. " Sahaja " i.e. in 3rd, " Ripu " i.e. in 6th, Chaturtha i.e. in 4th house, " Astame " i.e. in 8th house---- " eshu chaardhadrishtih " -- in these houses, calculated from Rahu, he gives 1/2 aspect. Where he doesn't aspect??? " Shitibhavan " i.e. where Rahu himself is posited & " Upaantyam " i.e. in 11th house he doesn't aspect. However, Ketu doesn't aspect, for obvious reasons. However, many people are of the opinion that Rahu aspects like the other 7 planets do, though the former has retrograde motion. You can see it with your database & its effects. I know you are highly experienced than me, who is a novice in this ocean of astrology. Thank you, . Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mrs.Vasicek, You are welcome!!My apologies to give you wrong reference. Its an excerpt from Parasara Samhita(or BPHS as we'd call)hindi translation done by late Shree Ganesh Datta pathak(Thakur Prasad Edition), & then further translated to bengali by Late Harihar majumder, chapter 26, sloka 6. However, you are compelled to take this principle. You always have the liberty to reject or accept any jyotish principle. Thank you, . jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Thank you Gaurav, > > I have Jataka Parijata opened at sloka 30/31 (Adh.11) as I type. However > there is no mention of Rahu aspects in either sloka. The authors notes below > (not original sloka) refer to some Parasara text, however where to find this > particular text is unclear...?? > > Perhaps you could point me to the relevant (Parasara) chapter and verse... > > Many Thanks, > Mrs.Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ________________________ > > > - > " " <gaurav.ghosh > " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya > Cc: " Jyotish-Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > > Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:52 PM > Re: Regarding Nodal aspects > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mrs.Vasicek, > I classic I am referring to is from Brihat parasara hora sastra, translated > by Late Shri Sitaram Shastri(Varanasi publication). If you dont possess that > text, no issues. please refer to Jatak Parijata, translated by Late Shree > V.Subramanya Sastri(Ranjan Publication), Chapter 2, the excerpt is given as > a commentary from various resources, Sloka no. is 30-31, pg no is 65, (2004 > edition). > I hope this helps. > Thank you, > Gaurav. > ************** > > ** > > ************** > > --- On Wed, 14/1/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: > Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya > Re: Regarding Nodal aspects > " " <gaurav.ghosh > Cc: " Jyotish-Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > > Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 12:48 PM > > Dear Gaurav, > > ///however, with due respect I fail to agree with you that nodes > have no aspect./// > > You're perfectly free to have your own opinion. > > ///Let me quote what an astro classic says about the aspects./// > > Please name the astro classic you refer to. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs.Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ________________________ > > > - > " " <gaurav.ghosh > <jyotishvidya > Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:43 PM > Regarding Nodal aspects > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Ms.Vasicek, > Greetings for New Year!! > I hope you are doing well. I have gone through your article on Nodal > aspects, however, with due respect I fail to agree with you that nodes > have no aspect.This is nothing new in vedic astrology. Many > astrologers have either ignored this part, or thought it is irrelevent > in reading a horoscope. As you know the myth goes about Rahu & > ketu(its needless to discuss this here as you have it dedicated as a > part of the article). > Let me quote what an astro classic says about the aspects. > " Suta-Madana-Nabaantepurna drishtih suraaryugala-dashama-raashou > drishtipaadatrayaarhah| > Sahaja-Ripu-chaturtheshu-astame chaardhadrishtih > Sthitibhavanamupaantyam naiva drishyam he raahoh||| > The meaning is quite clear:- > " Rahu has Full aspect on Suta(that is 5th house from it), Madana(i.e. > 7th house from it), Naba(i.e. 9th house) & ante(12th house). He casts > three-quarter aspect on " suraaryugala " i.e. 2nd house from it & > " Dashame " i.e. " 10th house " from it-- in these 2 rashis he > casts > " drishtipaadatrayaarhah " ---3/4th aspect. > " Sahaja " i.e. in 3rd, " Ripu " i.e. in 6th, Chaturtha i.e. in > 4th house, > " Astame " i.e. in 8th house---- " eshu chaardhadrishtih " -- in > these > houses, calculated from Rahu, he gives 1/2 aspect. Where he doesn't > aspect??? " Shitibhavan " i.e. where Rahu himself is posited & > " Upaantyam " i.e. in 11th house he doesn't aspect. However, Ketu > doesn't aspect, for obvious reasons. > However, many people are of the opinion that Rahu aspects like the > other 7 planets do, though the former has retrograde motion. You can > see it with your database & its effects. I know you are highly > experienced than me, who is a novice in this ocean of astrology. > Thank you, > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Dear Gaurav, In the 'Preface' of my copy it states that; " This is an exact reprint of the edition that was brought out by Shri Sastri in the year 1932. " I can't remember (exactly) when I obtained my copy of this work but I'm sure it's more than 10 yrs ago... Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " " <gaurav.ghosh " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya Cc: " Jyotish-Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:32 PM Re: Regarding Nodal aspects ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mrs.Vasicek, I classic I am referring to is from Brihat parasara hora sastra, translated by Late Shri Sitaram Shastri(Varanasi publication). If you dont possess that text, no issues. please refer to Jatak Parijata, translated by Late Shree V.Subramanya Sastri(Ranjan Publication), Chapter 2, the excerpt is given as a commentary from various resources, Sloka no. is 30-31, pg no is 65, (2004 edition). I hope this helps. Thank you, Gaurav. ************** ** ************** --- On Wed, 14/1/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Regarding Nodal aspects " " <gaurav.ghosh Cc: " Jyotish-Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 12:48 PM Dear Gaurav, ///however, with due respect I fail to agree with you that nodes have no aspect./// You're perfectly free to have your own opinion. ///Let me quote what an astro classic says about the aspects./// Please name the astro classic you refer to. Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " " <gaurav.ghosh <jyotishvidya Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:43 PM Regarding Nodal aspects ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Ms.Vasicek, Greetings for New Year!! I hope you are doing well. I have gone through your article on Nodal aspects, however, with due respect I fail to agree with you that nodes have no aspect.This is nothing new in vedic astrology. Many astrologers have either ignored this part, or thought it is irrelevent in reading a horoscope. As you know the myth goes about Rahu & ketu(its needless to discuss this here as you have it dedicated as a part of the article). Let me quote what an astro classic says about the aspects. " Suta-Madana-Nabaantepurna drishtih suraaryugala-dashama-raashou drishtipaadatrayaarhah| Sahaja-Ripu-chaturtheshu-astame chaardhadrishtih Sthitibhavanamupaantyam naiva drishyam he raahoh||| The meaning is quite clear:- " Rahu has Full aspect on Suta(that is 5th house from it), Madana(i.e. 7th house from it), Naba(i.e. 9th house) & ante(12th house). He casts three-quarter aspect on " suraaryugala " i.e. 2nd house from it & " Dashame " i.e. " 10th house " from it-- in these 2 rashis he casts " drishtipaadatrayaarhah " ---3/4th aspect. " Sahaja " i.e. in 3rd, " Ripu " i.e. in 6th, Chaturtha i.e. in 4th house, " Astame " i.e. in 8th house---- " eshu chaardhadrishtih " -- in these houses, calculated from Rahu, he gives 1/2 aspect. Where he doesn't aspect??? " Shitibhavan " i.e. where Rahu himself is posited & " Upaantyam " i.e. in 11th house he doesn't aspect. However, Ketu doesn't aspect, for obvious reasons. However, many people are of the opinion that Rahu aspects like the other 7 planets do, though the former has retrograde motion. You can see it with your database & its effects. I know you are highly experienced than me, who is a novice in this ocean of astrology. Thank you, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Dear Gaurav, ///However, you are compelled to take this principle. You always have the liberty to reject or accept any jyotish principle./// It really isn't a matter of rejecting or accepting any jyotish principle. I fully maintain that there are no specific aspects for the Nodes assigned by Parasara. You refer to BPHS Ch.26, sloka 6. I include a link here to this particular sloka. http://jyotishvidya.com/ch26.htm Please note that in sloka 6/8 the sage is refering to the aspectual evaluations; and, in order to save time and energy, I'll add here my own comments regarding this... " We need to consider also the fact that, although there are certain avasthas that state a planet is harmed when conjoined a Node (or Saturn or Mars), these same group of avasthas do not even assign Rahu and Ketu an aspectual value in virupas as they are shadow planets, not planets with a form (avasthas are ways to measure planetary strength). " See more here http://jyotishvidya.com/nodes.htm Best Wishes, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " " <gaurav.ghosh <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:46 PM Re: Regarding Nodal aspects ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mrs.Vasicek, You are welcome!!My apologies to give you wrong reference. Its an excerpt from Parasara Samhita(or BPHS as we'd call)hindi translation done by late Shree Ganesh Datta pathak(Thakur Prasad Edition), & then further translated to bengali by Late Harihar majumder, chapter 26, sloka 6. However, you are compelled to take this principle. You always have the liberty to reject or accept any jyotish principle. Thank you, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mrs.Vasicek, Even the jataka parijata I possess, it says the same. By the way, did you compare the excerpts given in Jatak Parijata as commentaries from BPHS, with one translated by Santhanam & is widely circulated?? If you haven't, please do it & see the various differences. I have 2004 edition of Jatak Parijata, an exact reprint though, by Late Shree. V.S.Shastri. Thank you, jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Gaurav, > > In the 'Preface' of my copy it states that; > " This is an exact reprint of the edition that was brought out by Shri > Sastri in the year 1932. " > > I can't remember (exactly) when I obtained my copy of this work but I'm sure > it's more than 10 yrs ago... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs.Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ________________________ > > > - > " " <gaurav.ghosh > " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya > Cc: " Jyotish-Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > > Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:32 PM > Re: Regarding Nodal aspects > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mrs.Vasicek, > I classic I am referring to > is from Brihat parasara hora sastra, translated by Late Shri Sitaram > Shastri(Varanasi publication). If you dont possess that text, no > issues. please refer to Jatak Parijata, translated by Late Shree > V.Subramanya Sastri(Ranjan Publication), Chapter 2, the excerpt is > given as a commentary from various resources, Sloka no. is 30-31, pg no > is 65, (2004 edition). > I hope this helps. > Thank you, > Gaurav. > > ************** > > ** > > ************** > > --- On Wed, 14/1/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: > Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya > Re: Regarding Nodal aspects > " " <gaurav.ghosh > Cc: " Jyotish-Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > > Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 12:48 PM > > Dear Gaurav, > > ///however, with due respect I fail to agree with you that nodes > have no aspect./// > > You're perfectly free to have your own opinion. > > ///Let me quote what an astro classic says about the aspects./// > > Please name the astro classic you refer to. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs.Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ________________________ > > > - > " " <gaurav.ghosh > <jyotishvidya > Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:43 PM > Regarding Nodal aspects > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Ms.Vasicek, > Greetings for New Year!! > I hope you are doing well. I have gone through your article on Nodal > aspects, however, with due respect I fail to agree with you that nodes > have no aspect.This is nothing new in vedic astrology. Many > astrologers have either ignored this part, or thought it is irrelevent > in reading a horoscope. As you know the myth goes about Rahu & > ketu(its needless to discuss this here as you have it dedicated as a > part of the article). > Let me quote what an astro classic says about the aspects. > " Suta-Madana-Nabaantepurna drishtih suraaryugala-dashama-raashou > drishtipaadatrayaarhah| > Sahaja-Ripu-chaturtheshu-astame chaardhadrishtih > Sthitibhavanamupaantyam naiva drishyam he raahoh||| > The meaning is quite clear:- > " Rahu has Full aspect on Suta(that is 5th house from it), Madana(i.e. > 7th house from it), Naba(i.e. 9th house) & ante(12th house). He casts > three-quarter aspect on " suraaryugala " i.e. 2nd house from it & > " Dashame " i.e. " 10th house " from it-- in these 2 rashis he > casts > " drishtipaadatrayaarhah " ---3/4th aspect. > " Sahaja " i.e. in 3rd, " Ripu " i.e. in 6th, Chaturtha i.e. in > 4th house, > " Astame " i.e. in 8th house---- " eshu chaardhadrishtih " -- in > these > houses, calculated from Rahu, he gives 1/2 aspect. Where he doesn't > aspect??? " Shitibhavan " i.e. where Rahu himself is posited & > " Upaantyam " i.e. in 11th house he doesn't aspect. However, Ketu > doesn't aspect, for obvious reasons. > However, many people are of the opinion that Rahu aspects like the > other 7 planets do, though the former has retrograde motion. You can > see it with your database & its effects. I know you are highly > experienced than me, who is a novice in this ocean of astrology. > Thank you, > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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