Jupiter transit to Aquarius

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Hi Mrs.Wendy,

Good to have you back

I have a doubt here.

Jupiter - Saturn are neutral to each other,

but jupiter is debilitated in Saturn's house ( Capricorn )

Does that show, Jupiter would be uncomfortable in Saturn's houses ??

thanks,

phani

On 2/6/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

> Dear Uttara and All,

>

> If I'm not mistaken Jupiter enters Aquarius (briefly) from 1st May 2009

> to 30th July 2009 before his final transit (after retrograding back to

> Capricorn for approx. 5mths) on 19th Dec 2009. Here he will stay until

> May 2010.

>

> Jupiter's transit in Aquarius is praised by the Sages, and, I think the

> following explanation (found on the net) explains why (in part). Perhaps

> other members can add more to this.

>

> " Aquarius is called kumbh in sanskrit meaning a water container or a pot.

> It refers to the mythological kumbh of amrita (nectar) which came out of

> the ocean when gods and demons churned the ocean in the process called

> samudra-manthan. The kumbh eventually came in control of gods and it was

> kept well gaurded in heaven. Once, Garuda, the mount of Vishnu, stole the

> nectar-container and he was chased by gods all around the globe. During

> this flight some drops of nectar spilled out and wherever they fell, they

> created places of utmost sanctity. These are the places where kumbh-melas

> are organised in India. But, the mahakumbh or the grand kumbh is

> organised only when jupiter is in aquarius. "

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

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February 6, 2009

Dear Phani,

I'll have to get back to you on this... Need to rack the brain to find

some scriptural reference as to why the sages praise Jupiter in Aquarius.

However, what I can say (off the top of my head) is that, although

Jupiter is debilitated in Capricorn, he is not ill-disposed in Aquarius.

If I'm not mistaken Jupiter occupies his own nakshatra in last 10deg of

Aquarius.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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Friday, February 06, 2009 6:26 PM

Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

Hi Mrs.Wendy,

Good to have you back

I have a doubt here.

Jupiter - Saturn are neutral to each other,

but jupiter is debilitated in Saturn's house ( Capricorn )

Does that show, Jupiter would be uncomfortable in Saturn's houses ??

thanks,

phani

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February 7, 2009

Dear Phani and All,

R. Santhanam states (his notes) in Saravali Ch.27: 21-22

" Jupiter in Aquarius is as benefic as he is in Cancer according to Varaha

Mihira and Gunakara. Varaha Mihira has ably done away with one single

phrase, whereas Kalyana Varma is definite and more specific in regards to

results of Jupiter in Cancer and Aquarius. This is evident from what is

discussed in the respective verses. Whereas in regard to Cancer, all good

effects have been stated while for Aquarius some evils are also denoted

by our author. Varaha Mihira gives general effects while Kalyana Varma

deals with specific effects.

In practical experience, Jupiter in Aquarius is of course as good as the

one in Cancer as far as the good attributes are related. Additionally

Jupiter in Aquarius suffers the Saturnine stigma...etc, etc.. "

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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" Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, February 06, 2009 10:07 PM

Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

Dear Phani,

I'll have to get back to you on this... Need to rack the brain to find

some scriptural reference as to why the sages praise Jupiter in Aquarius.

However, what I can say (off the top of my head) is that, although

Jupiter is debilitated in Capricorn, he is not ill-disposed in Aquarius.

If I'm not mistaken Jupiter occupies his own nakshatra in last 10deg of

Aquarius.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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" Phani " <phani86

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, February 06, 2009 6:26 PM

Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

Hi Mrs.Wendy,

Good to have you back

I have a doubt here.

Jupiter - Saturn are neutral to each other,

but jupiter is debilitated in Saturn's house ( Capricorn )

Does that show, Jupiter would be uncomfortable in Saturn's houses ??

thanks,

phani

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February 7, 2009

PS: ///Additionally Jupiter in Aquarius suffers the Saturnine

stigma...etc, etc.. " ///

I would probably look at this more in the light of the positive effect on

Saturn as dispositor of Jupiter. This, of course, cannot be compared to

the effect gained through debilitated Jupiter. I invite comments from

learned astrologers on this :-)

_______________________________

Dear Phani and All,

R. Santhanam states (his notes) in Saravali Ch.27: 21-22

" Jupiter in Aquarius is as benefic as he is in Cancer according to Varaha

Mihira and Gunakara. Varaha Mihira has ably done away with one single

phrase, whereas Kalyana Varma is definite and more specific in regards to

results of Jupiter in Cancer and Aquarius. This is evident from what is

discussed in the respective verses. Whereas in regard to Cancer, all good

effects have been stated while for Aquarius some evils are also denoted

by our author. Varaha Mihira gives general effects while Kalyana Varma

deals with specific effects.

In practical experience, Jupiter in Aquarius is of course as good as the

one in Cancer as far as the good attributes are related. Additionally

Jupiter in Aquarius suffers the Saturnine stigma...etc, etc.. "

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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" Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, February 06, 2009 10:07 PM

Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

Dear Phani,

I'll have to get back to you on this... Need to rack the brain to find

some scriptural reference as to why the sages praise Jupiter in Aquarius.

However, what I can say (off the top of my head) is that, although

Jupiter is debilitated in Capricorn, he is not ill-disposed in Aquarius.

If I'm not mistaken Jupiter occupies his own nakshatra in last 10deg of

Aquarius.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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" Phani " <phani86

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, February 06, 2009 6:26 PM

Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

Hi Mrs.Wendy,

Good to have you back

I have a doubt here.

Jupiter - Saturn are neutral to each other,

but jupiter is debilitated in Saturn's house ( Capricorn )

Does that show, Jupiter would be uncomfortable in Saturn's houses ??

thanks,

phani

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February 7, 2009

Dear Mrs Wendy,

I am most interested in this topic- Jupiter as a benefit in Saturn

rule Aquarius along with co-ruler Rahu.

It jars the mind when one thinks that Jupiter's luck and expansion is

a total opposite of Saturn's constriction, taskmaster ways. Also that

Rahu as co-rule can be very much erractic and negative. Like a spark

plug at times in its most reactive mode vs. its higher level of good

in this house and sign.

What say you?

As Always,

Uttara

p.s. that being said Jupiter's transit into Aquarius May 2nd through

July 30th should prove for all how Jupiter will act and react once

Jupiter does finally transit into Aquarius 20 Dec 2009

jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya

wrote:

>

> PS: ///Additionally Jupiter in Aquarius suffers the Saturnine

> stigma...etc, etc.. " ///

>

> I would probably look at this more in the light of the positive

effect on

> Saturn as dispositor of Jupiter. This, of course, cannot be compared to

> the effect gained through debilitated Jupiter. I invite comments from

> learned astrologers on this :-)

> _______________________________

>

> Dear Phani and All,

>

> R. Santhanam states (his notes) in Saravali Ch.27: 21-22

>

> " Jupiter in Aquarius is as benefic as he is in Cancer according to

Varaha

> Mihira and Gunakara. Varaha Mihira has ably done away with one single

> phrase, whereas Kalyana Varma is definite and more specific in

regards to

> results of Jupiter in Cancer and Aquarius. This is evident from what is

> discussed in the respective verses. Whereas in regard to Cancer, all

good

> effects have been stated while for Aquarius some evils are also denoted

> by our author. Varaha Mihira gives general effects while Kalyana Varma

> deals with specific effects.

>

> In practical experience, Jupiter in Aquarius is of course as good as the

> one in Cancer as far as the good attributes are related. Additionally

> Jupiter in Aquarius suffers the Saturnine stigma...etc, etc.. "

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

> -

> " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Friday, February 06, 2009 10:07 PM

> Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

>

> Dear Phani,

>

> I'll have to get back to you on this... Need to rack the brain to find

> some scriptural reference as to why the sages praise Jupiter in

Aquarius.

> However, what I can say (off the top of my head) is that, although

> Jupiter is debilitated in Capricorn, he is not ill-disposed in Aquarius.

> If I'm not mistaken Jupiter occupies his own nakshatra in last 10deg of

> Aquarius.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

> ___

>

> -

> " Phani " <phani86

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Friday, February 06, 2009 6:26 PM

> Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

>

> Hi Mrs.Wendy,

> Good to have you back

> I have a doubt here.

> Jupiter - Saturn are neutral to each other,

> but jupiter is debilitated in Saturn's house ( Capricorn )

> Does that show, Jupiter would be uncomfortable in Saturn's houses ??

> thanks,

> phani

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February 7, 2009

Wendy ji,

///Need to rack the brain to find some scriptural reference as to why the sages

praise Jupiter in Aquarius.///

Varaha Mihira in Brihat Jataka (18:13) says that Guru in Kumbha will produce

effects similar to Guru in Kataka.

~~~~~~~~~

Balaji Narasimhan

Author & Editor

http://www.balaji.ind.in/

~~~~~~~~~

February 7, 2009

Dear Uttara,

I think perhaps we should consider first and foremost the spiritual

nature of both Jupiter and Saturn in this regard. It's stated that,

although Saturn's very nature is to restrict, deny and destroy (akin to

Siva the destroyer of the world, following Brahma the creator and Vishnu

the preserver) he also bestows his own unique wisdom, integrity, humility

dedication and a genuine sense of non-attachment to worldly desires and

pleasures...qualities much needed for perseverance in spiritual practice,

wouldn't you agree?

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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<muttaraphalguni

<jyotish-vidya >

Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:06 PM

Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

Dear Mrs Wendy,

I am most interested in this topic- Jupiter as a benefit in Saturn

rule Aquarius along with co-ruler Rahu.

It jars the mind when one thinks that Jupiter's luck and expansion is

a total opposite of Saturn's constriction, taskmaster ways. Also that

Rahu as co-rule can be very much erractic and negative. Like a spark

plug at times in its most reactive mode vs. its higher level of good

in this house and sign.

What say you?

As Always,

Uttara

p.s. that being said Jupiter's transit into Aquarius May 2nd through

July 30th should prove for all how Jupiter will act and react once

Jupiter does finally transit into Aquarius 20 Dec 2009

jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya

wrote:

>

> PS: ///Additionally Jupiter in Aquarius suffers the Saturnine

> stigma...etc, etc.. " ///

>

> I would probably look at this more in the light of the positive

effect on

> Saturn as dispositor of Jupiter. This, of course, cannot be compared to

> the effect gained through debilitated Jupiter. I invite comments from

> learned astrologers on this :-)

> _______________________________

>

> Dear Phani and All,

>

> R. Santhanam states (his notes) in Saravali Ch.27: 21-22

>

> " Jupiter in Aquarius is as benefic as he is in Cancer according to

Varaha

> Mihira and Gunakara. Varaha Mihira has ably done away with one single

> phrase, whereas Kalyana Varma is definite and more specific in

regards to

> results of Jupiter in Cancer and Aquarius. This is evident from what is

> discussed in the respective verses. Whereas in regard to Cancer, all

good

> effects have been stated while for Aquarius some evils are also denoted

> by our author. Varaha Mihira gives general effects while Kalyana Varma

> deals with specific effects.

>

> In practical experience, Jupiter in Aquarius is of course as good as

> the

> one in Cancer as far as the good attributes are related. Additionally

> Jupiter in Aquarius suffers the Saturnine stigma...etc, etc.. "

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

> -

> " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Friday, February 06, 2009 10:07 PM

> Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

>

> Dear Phani,

>

> I'll have to get back to you on this... Need to rack the brain to find

> some scriptural reference as to why the sages praise Jupiter in

Aquarius.

> However, what I can say (off the top of my head) is that, although

> Jupiter is debilitated in Capricorn, he is not ill-disposed in

> Aquarius.

> If I'm not mistaken Jupiter occupies his own nakshatra in last 10deg of

> Aquarius.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

> ___

>

> -

> " Phani " <phani86

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Friday, February 06, 2009 6:26 PM

> Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

>

> Hi Mrs.Wendy,

> Good to have you back

> I have a doubt here.

> Jupiter - Saturn are neutral to each other,

> but jupiter is debilitated in Saturn's house ( Capricorn )

> Does that show, Jupiter would be uncomfortable in Saturn's houses ??

> thanks,

> phani

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February 7, 2009

Dear Balaji,

Many thanks! I do appreciate your efforts to locate some reference on

this :-)

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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" Balaji Narasimhan " <sherlockbalaji

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Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:26 PM

Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

Wendy ji,

///Need to rack the brain to find some scriptural reference as to why the

sages praise Jupiter in Aquarius.///

Varaha Mihira in Brihat Jataka (18:13) says that Guru in Kumbha will

produce effects similar to Guru in Kataka.

~~~~~~~~~

Balaji Narasimhan

Author & Editor

~~~~~~~~~

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February 7, 2009

Dear Mrs Wendy,

Ah, yes! Jupiter has many benefts and spiritual significance. The

trouble I am having is reconciling its great benefits in a very

erractic and often revolution, rebellious sign Aqaurius with ruler

Saturn and co-ruler Rahu.

Can we delve into this more for further understanding?

As Always,

Uttara

jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya

wrote:

>

> Dear Uttara,

>

> I think perhaps we should consider first and foremost the spiritual

> nature of both Jupiter and Saturn in this regard. It's stated that,

> although Saturn's very nature is to restrict, deny and destroy (akin to

> Siva the destroyer of the world, following Brahma the creator and

Vishnu

> the preserver) he also bestows his own unique wisdom, integrity,

humility

> dedication and a genuine sense of non-attachment to worldly desires and

> pleasures...qualities much needed for perseverance in spiritual

practice,

> wouldn't you agree?

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> ___

>

> -

> <muttaraphalguni

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:06 PM

> Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

>

> Dear Mrs Wendy,

>

> I am most interested in this topic- Jupiter as a benefit in Saturn

> rule Aquarius along with co-ruler Rahu.

>

> It jars the mind when one thinks that Jupiter's luck and expansion is

> a total opposite of Saturn's constriction, taskmaster ways. Also that

> Rahu as co-rule can be very much erractic and negative. Like a spark

> plug at times in its most reactive mode vs. its higher level of good

> in this house and sign.

>

> What say you?

>

> As Always,

>

> Uttara

>

> p.s. that being said Jupiter's transit into Aquarius May 2nd through

> July 30th should prove for all how Jupiter will act and react once

> Jupiter does finally transit into Aquarius 20 Dec 2009

>

> jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@>

> wrote:

> >

> > PS: ///Additionally Jupiter in Aquarius suffers the Saturnine

> > stigma...etc, etc.. " ///

> >

> > I would probably look at this more in the light of the positive

> effect on

> > Saturn as dispositor of Jupiter. This, of course, cannot be

compared to

> > the effect gained through debilitated Jupiter. I invite comments from

> > learned astrologers on this :-)

> > _______________________________

> >

> > Dear Phani and All,

> >

> > R. Santhanam states (his notes) in Saravali Ch.27: 21-22

> >

> > " Jupiter in Aquarius is as benefic as he is in Cancer according to

> Varaha

> > Mihira and Gunakara. Varaha Mihira has ably done away with one single

> > phrase, whereas Kalyana Varma is definite and more specific in

> regards to

> > results of Jupiter in Cancer and Aquarius. This is evident from

what is

> > discussed in the respective verses. Whereas in regard to Cancer, all

> good

> > effects have been stated while for Aquarius some evils are also

denoted

> > by our author. Varaha Mihira gives general effects while Kalyana Varma

> > deals with specific effects.

> >

> > In practical experience, Jupiter in Aquarius is of course as good as

> > the

> > one in Cancer as far as the good attributes are related. Additionally

> > Jupiter in Aquarius suffers the Saturnine stigma...etc, etc.. "

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > ___

> >

> > -

> > " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@>

> > <jyotish-vidya >

> > Friday, February 06, 2009 10:07 PM

> > Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

> >

> > Dear Phani,

> >

> > I'll have to get back to you on this... Need to rack the brain to find

> > some scriptural reference as to why the sages praise Jupiter in

> Aquarius.

> > However, what I can say (off the top of my head) is that, although

> > Jupiter is debilitated in Capricorn, he is not ill-disposed in

> > Aquarius.

> > If I'm not mistaken Jupiter occupies his own nakshatra in last

10deg of

> > Aquarius.

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

> > ___

> >

> > -

> > " Phani " <phani86@>

> > <jyotish-vidya >

> > Friday, February 06, 2009 6:26 PM

> > Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

> >

> > Hi Mrs.Wendy,

> > Good to have you back

> > I have a doubt here.

> > Jupiter - Saturn are neutral to each other,

> > but jupiter is debilitated in Saturn's house ( Capricorn )

> > Does that show, Jupiter would be uncomfortable in Saturn's houses ??

> > thanks,

> > phani

> >

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February 8, 2009

Hi all,

just to add on to what members have said above :

Saturn <-> Jupiter agree to one aspect i.e the 'spirituality' part.

The only difference is that - Saturn is cold, duty minded, hardworker -

makes a native detached to desires, worldly pleasures.This way the native

would rise spiritually.

But Jupiter is more of a wise, learned man - makes the native go through a

learning / thinking process to rise in spirituality.

I believe the difference shows up in the very nature of two Rashis -

Aquarius and Pisces.

Aquarius being Airy sign, and Saturn's qualities at his best - is apt for

Philosophers.

Pisces being watery sign, Jupiter at his best - 12th House of KaalaPurusha -

is apt for Sanyasis / people who renounce things at a certain stage of life.

Please correct me if i am wrong,

thanks,

phani

On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:16 PM, muttaraphalguni <

muttaraphalguni wrote:

> Dear Mrs Wendy,

>

> Ah, yes! Jupiter has many benefts and spiritual significance. The

> trouble I am having is reconciling its great benefits in a very

> erractic and often revolution, rebellious sign Aqaurius with ruler

> Saturn and co-ruler Rahu.

>

> Can we delve into this more for further understanding?

>

> As Always,

>

> Uttara

>

> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>,

> " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Uttara,

> >

> > I think perhaps we should consider first and foremost the spiritual

> > nature of both Jupiter and Saturn in this regard. It's stated that,

> > although Saturn's very nature is to restrict, deny and destroy (akin to

> > Siva the destroyer of the world, following Brahma the creator and

> Vishnu

> > the preserver) he also bestows his own unique wisdom, integrity,

> humility

> > dedication and a genuine sense of non-attachment to worldly desires and

> > pleasures...qualities much needed for perseverance in spiritual

> practice,

> > wouldn't you agree?

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

> > ___

> >

> > -

> > <muttaraphalguni

> > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>>

> > Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:06 PM

> > Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

> >

> > Dear Mrs Wendy,

> >

> > I am most interested in this topic- Jupiter as a benefit in Saturn

> > rule Aquarius along with co-ruler Rahu.

> >

> > It jars the mind when one thinks that Jupiter's luck and expansion is

> > a total opposite of Saturn's constriction, taskmaster ways. Also that

> > Rahu as co-rule can be very much erractic and negative. Like a spark

> > plug at times in its most reactive mode vs. its higher level of good

> > in this house and sign.

> >

> > What say you?

> >

> > As Always,

> >

> > Uttara

> >

> > p.s. that being said Jupiter's transit into Aquarius May 2nd through

> > July 30th should prove for all how Jupiter will act and react once

> > Jupiter does finally transit into Aquarius 20 Dec 2009

> >

> > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>,

> " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > PS: ///Additionally Jupiter in Aquarius suffers the Saturnine

> > > stigma...etc, etc.. " ///

> > >

> > > I would probably look at this more in the light of the positive

> > effect on

> > > Saturn as dispositor of Jupiter. This, of course, cannot be

> compared to

> > > the effect gained through debilitated Jupiter. I invite comments from

> > > learned astrologers on this :-)

> > > _______________________________

> > >

> > > Dear Phani and All,

> > >

> > > R. Santhanam states (his notes) in Saravali Ch.27: 21-22

> > >

> > > " Jupiter in Aquarius is as benefic as he is in Cancer according to

> > Varaha

> > > Mihira and Gunakara. Varaha Mihira has ably done away with one single

> > > phrase, whereas Kalyana Varma is definite and more specific in

> > regards to

> > > results of Jupiter in Cancer and Aquarius. This is evident from

> what is

> > > discussed in the respective verses. Whereas in regard to Cancer, all

> > good

> > > effects have been stated while for Aquarius some evils are also

> denoted

> > > by our author. Varaha Mihira gives general effects while Kalyana Varma

> > > deals with specific effects.

> > >

> > > In practical experience, Jupiter in Aquarius is of course as good as

> > > the

> > > one in Cancer as far as the good attributes are related. Additionally

> > > Jupiter in Aquarius suffers the Saturnine stigma...etc, etc.. "

> > >

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > ___

> > >

> > > -

> > > " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@>

> > > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>>

> > > Friday, February 06, 2009 10:07 PM

> > > Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

> > >

> > > Dear Phani,

> > >

> > > I'll have to get back to you on this... Need to rack the brain to find

> > > some scriptural reference as to why the sages praise Jupiter in

> > Aquarius.

> > > However, what I can say (off the top of my head) is that, although

> > > Jupiter is debilitated in Capricorn, he is not ill-disposed in

> > > Aquarius.

> > > If I'm not mistaken Jupiter occupies his own nakshatra in last

> 10deg of

> > > Aquarius.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > ___

> > >

> > > -

> > > " Phani " <phani86@>

> > > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>>

> > > Friday, February 06, 2009 6:26 PM

> > > Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

> > >

> > > Hi Mrs.Wendy,

> > > Good to have you back

> > > I have a doubt here.

> > > Jupiter - Saturn are neutral to each other,

> > > but jupiter is debilitated in Saturn's house ( Capricorn )

> > > Does that show, Jupiter would be uncomfortable in Saturn's houses ??

> > > thanks,

> > > phani

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February 8, 2009

Dear Uttara,

Can we delve into this more for further understanding?

Certainly! Just give me a little time... As I said, I must get busy in

the kitchen just now.

Of course it would be good to have some input from other members (also)

on this :-)

Best Wishes,

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Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:46 PM

Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

Dear Mrs Wendy,

Ah, yes! Jupiter has many benefts and spiritual significance. The

trouble I am having is reconciling its great benefits in a very

erractic and often revolution, rebellious sign Aqaurius with ruler

Saturn and co-ruler Rahu.

Can we delve into this more for further understanding?

As Always,

Uttara

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Dear Phani,

Thanks so much for your input.

As far as I am concerned no one has an incorrect assessment if one

takes the time to write and contemplate on the assessment that they

earnestly make.

Thus is the essence of a very good learning forum. We all learn from

each other and subjects or statements or assessments are viewed to be

of service to others in their sincerity of learning and by doing, even

if one is off base to have an opportunity to learn and apply correctly.

All participation is encouraged.

As Always,

Uttara

jyotish-vidya , Phani <phani86 wrote:

>

> Hi all,

> just to add on to what members have said above :

> Saturn <-> Jupiter agree to one aspect i.e the 'spirituality' part.

> The only difference is that - Saturn is cold, duty minded, hardworker -

> makes a native detached to desires, worldly pleasures.This way the

native

> would rise spiritually.

> But Jupiter is more of a wise, learned man - makes the native go

through a

> learning / thinking process to rise in spirituality.

> I believe the difference shows up in the very nature of two Rashis -

> Aquarius and Pisces.

>

> Aquarius being Airy sign, and Saturn's qualities at his best - is

apt for

> Philosophers.

> Pisces being watery sign, Jupiter at his best - 12th House of

KaalaPurusha -

> is apt for Sanyasis / people who renounce things at a certain stage

of life.

>

> Please correct me if i am wrong,

> thanks,

> phani

>

> On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:16 PM, muttaraphalguni <

> muttaraphalguni wrote:

>

> > Dear Mrs Wendy,

> >

> > Ah, yes! Jupiter has many benefts and spiritual significance. The

> > trouble I am having is reconciling its great benefits in a very

> > erractic and often revolution, rebellious sign Aqaurius with ruler

> > Saturn and co-ruler Rahu.

> >

> > Can we delve into this more for further understanding?

> >

> > As Always,

> >

> > Uttara

> >

> > jyotish-vidya

<jyotish-vidya%40>,

> > " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Uttara,

> > >

> > > I think perhaps we should consider first and foremost the spiritual

> > > nature of both Jupiter and Saturn in this regard. It's stated that,

> > > although Saturn's very nature is to restrict, deny and destroy

(akin to

> > > Siva the destroyer of the world, following Brahma the creator and

> > Vishnu

> > > the preserver) he also bestows his own unique wisdom, integrity,

> > humility

> > > dedication and a genuine sense of non-attachment to worldly

desires and

> > > pleasures...qualities much needed for perseverance in spiritual

> > practice,

> > > wouldn't you agree?

> > >

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > ___

> > >

> > > -

> > > <muttaraphalguni@>

> > > <jyotish-vidya

<jyotish-vidya%40>>

> > > Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:06 PM

> > > Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

> > >

> > > Dear Mrs Wendy,

> > >

> > > I am most interested in this topic- Jupiter as a benefit in Saturn

> > > rule Aquarius along with co-ruler Rahu.

> > >

> > > It jars the mind when one thinks that Jupiter's luck and

expansion is

> > > a total opposite of Saturn's constriction, taskmaster ways. Also

that

> > > Rahu as co-rule can be very much erractic and negative. Like a spark

> > > plug at times in its most reactive mode vs. its higher level of good

> > > in this house and sign.

> > >

> > > What say you?

> > >

> > > As Always,

> > >

> > > Uttara

> > >

> > > p.s. that being said Jupiter's transit into Aquarius May 2nd through

> > > July 30th should prove for all how Jupiter will act and react once

> > > Jupiter does finally transit into Aquarius 20 Dec 2009

> > >

> > > jyotish-vidya

<jyotish-vidya%40>,

> > " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > PS: ///Additionally Jupiter in Aquarius suffers the Saturnine

> > > > stigma...etc, etc.. " ///

> > > >

> > > > I would probably look at this more in the light of the positive

> > > effect on

> > > > Saturn as dispositor of Jupiter. This, of course, cannot be

> > compared to

> > > > the effect gained through debilitated Jupiter. I invite

comments from

> > > > learned astrologers on this :-)

> > > > _______________________________

> > > >

> > > > Dear Phani and All,

> > > >

> > > > R. Santhanam states (his notes) in Saravali Ch.27: 21-22

> > > >

> > > > " Jupiter in Aquarius is as benefic as he is in Cancer according to

> > > Varaha

> > > > Mihira and Gunakara. Varaha Mihira has ably done away with one

single

> > > > phrase, whereas Kalyana Varma is definite and more specific in

> > > regards to

> > > > results of Jupiter in Cancer and Aquarius. This is evident from

> > what is

> > > > discussed in the respective verses. Whereas in regard to

Cancer, all

> > > good

> > > > effects have been stated while for Aquarius some evils are also

> > denoted

> > > > by our author. Varaha Mihira gives general effects while

Kalyana Varma

> > > > deals with specific effects.

> > > >

> > > > In practical experience, Jupiter in Aquarius is of course as

good as

> > > > the

> > > > one in Cancer as far as the good attributes are related.

Additionally

> > > > Jupiter in Aquarius suffers the Saturnine stigma...etc, etc.. "

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > > ___

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@>

> > > > <jyotish-vidya

<jyotish-vidya%40>>

> > > > Friday, February 06, 2009 10:07 PM

> > > > Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

> > > >

> > > > Dear Phani,

> > > >

> > > > I'll have to get back to you on this... Need to rack the brain

to find

> > > > some scriptural reference as to why the sages praise Jupiter in

> > > Aquarius.

> > > > However, what I can say (off the top of my head) is that, although

> > > > Jupiter is debilitated in Capricorn, he is not ill-disposed in

> > > > Aquarius.

> > > > If I'm not mistaken Jupiter occupies his own nakshatra in last

> > 10deg of

> > > > Aquarius.

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > > ___

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > " Phani " <phani86@>

> > > > <jyotish-vidya

<jyotish-vidya%40>>

> > > > Friday, February 06, 2009 6:26 PM

> > > > Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

> > > >

> > > > Hi Mrs.Wendy,

> > > > Good to have you back

> > > > I have a doubt here.

> > > > Jupiter - Saturn are neutral to each other,

> > > > but jupiter is debilitated in Saturn's house ( Capricorn )

> > > > Does that show, Jupiter would be uncomfortable in Saturn's

houses ??

> > > > thanks,

> > > > phani

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>

February 10, 2009

Dear Uttara,

///The trouble I am having is reconciling its great benefits in a very

erractic and often revolution, rebellious sign Aqaurius///

One thing I'm absolutely certain of is that the sages understood the

intricacies of jyotish from a level of awareness unobtainable for most of

us, and, although I may flounder at times in recognising the logic behind

certain dictums, I'm content, for the most part, to accept the

all-encompassing wisdom of the sages.

As for Aquarius being an erratic, revolutionary, rebellious sign, I'd

like to offer R. Santhanam's opinion of this sign (in part) given in

BPHS.

" They have a broad outlook and human understanding. They are UNSELFISH,

human and impersonal. They are reserved in nature and great MORALISTS.

They have wonderful intuitional capacity...etc. "

L.R. Chawdhri (Scientific Analysis of Horoscope) holds similar views, he

says;

" Intelligent, good memory and reasoning. Good concentration, KIND,

HUMANE, self-controlled. Constant, persevering, HAPPY DISPOSITION.

Inventive and psychic...etc. "

Wouldn't you agree that the keywords (upper case) are extremely

compatible with the basic nature of Jupiter :-)

///with ruler Saturn and co-ruler Rahu.///

Rahu's association with Aquarius is a factor when determining the effect

of his dasa periods, and I'm sure all will agree that any association

with Jupiter would go a long way to soften his natural malefic/hedonistic

tendencies...wouldn't you agree?

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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<jyotish-vidya >

Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:46 PM

Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

Dear Mrs Wendy,

Ah, yes! Jupiter has many benefts and spiritual significance. The

trouble I am having is reconciling its great benefits in a very

erractic and often revolution, rebellious sign Aqaurius with ruler

Saturn and co-ruler Rahu.

Can we delve into this more for further understanding?

As Always,

Uttara

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February 10, 2009

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

Thanks for your post below. Added to that I am closely following the

Australia news regarding the bush fires and its devastating fallout.

My heart is with all there including you with family interest and

concerns.

I do not disagree with the post below of yours. What I am trying to

blend with the humanist of Aquarius and Jupiter transit there, is

rather, the effects of Aquarius's ruler Saturn with its co-ruler Rahu

being a major effect on expansive good will Jupiter transit on Aquarius.

Considering that Saturn can be effected negatively and then co-joining

Rahu to aggravate seems to be the contradiction along with it being

2nd from Capricorn Saturn rule with its current transit of Rahu there.

It's a bit confusing before Rahu transits to Sag later in the Fall of

2009 and Saturn's transit too that will also transit to Virgo before

year end this Fall.

Anyway, even if there wasn't the activity in Capricorn, there still is

the contradiction of affect with good will expansive Jupiter transit

to Aqaurius Saturn, co-rule Rahu Aquarius to my comprehension. I am

thinking that there is a struggle for the sign Aquarius to act at a

higher level of goodwill toward humanity with Jupiter there vs. acting

at a lower level with co-rule Rahu and Saturn rule. This is not to say

that Saturn can't not

act benevolently, it is rather the Rahu connection that seems to be

the question for the higher affect of Aquarius in its effect.

The confusion is that many will access Aqaurius as irractic and quick

change in its lower level of action. I am sensing that Jupiter would

be compromised with the overwhelming effect of lower Aquarius because

Rahu is negative in its transit to Capricorn ruled Saturn which would

make the two signs and planets 2 and 12 from each other.

If we could discuss this further i would be most appreciative for

clarification and understanding.

As Always,

Uttara

p.s. if i don't respond until later tommorow afternoon/evening my

time, it is because I will be away from my desk pertaining to other

personal matters :-)

jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya

wrote:

>

> Dear Uttara,

>

> ///The trouble I am having is reconciling its great benefits in a very

> erractic and often revolution, rebellious sign Aqaurius///

>

> One thing I'm absolutely certain of is that the sages understood the

> intricacies of jyotish from a level of awareness unobtainable for

most of

> us, and, although I may flounder at times in recognising the logic

behind

> certain dictums, I'm content, for the most part, to accept the

> all-encompassing wisdom of the sages.

>

> As for Aquarius being an erratic, revolutionary, rebellious sign, I'd

> like to offer R. Santhanam's opinion of this sign (in part) given in

> BPHS.

> " They have a broad outlook and human understanding. They are UNSELFISH,

> human and impersonal. They are reserved in nature and great MORALISTS.

> They have wonderful intuitional capacity...etc. "

>

> L.R. Chawdhri (Scientific Analysis of Horoscope) holds similar views, he

> says;

> " Intelligent, good memory and reasoning. Good concentration, KIND,

> HUMANE, self-controlled. Constant, persevering, HAPPY DISPOSITION.

> Inventive and psychic...etc. "

>

> Wouldn't you agree that the keywords (upper case) are extremely

> compatible with the basic nature of Jupiter :-)

>

> ///with ruler Saturn and co-ruler Rahu.///

>

> Rahu's association with Aquarius is a factor when determining the effect

> of his dasa periods, and I'm sure all will agree that any association

> with Jupiter would go a long way to soften his natural

malefic/hedonistic

> tendencies...wouldn't you agree?

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

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> ___

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> -

> <muttaraphalguni

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:46 PM

> Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

>

> Dear Mrs Wendy,

>

> Ah, yes! Jupiter has many benefts and spiritual significance. The

> trouble I am having is reconciling its great benefits in a very

> erractic and often revolution, rebellious sign Aqaurius with ruler

> Saturn and co-ruler Rahu.

>

> Can we delve into this more for further understanding?

>

> As Always,

>

> Uttara

>

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February 11, 2009

Dear Mrs. Wendy and All,

I should note that my inquiry below is an added concern of how Jupiter

will act in Aquarius (May - July 2009) with its short transit there

along with an aspect from transit Saturn in Leo/Su. In addition to my

original inquiry of Jupiter's behavior and influence on Aquarius as a

whole. If I understand properly from what you have written, Mrs.

Wendy, it is the bevolence of Jupiter that tempers Aquarius's Ruler

Saturn and co-ruler Rahu. Without Jupiter then Aquarius can act in

its own erratic ways. yes??

However, I should note that I do recognize Aquarius's positive actions

of social justice and change. My father for instance had Moon in

Aquarius. As an architect,builder and real estate developer, he

devoted his whole adult life to designing and building housing and

its neighborhood environments for people to live as families in areas

where there was nothing but empty land beforehand. It always was

thrilling to watch as a child and adult, land being developed where

houses, parks, schools, churches, shopping, police and fire etc. were

designed and formed into a thriving community. However, , behind

closed doors Dad could also be very belligerent and depressed, always

searching for better to enhance lives including his own children.

Dad also had Gemini Sun and Libra Asc.

So, I do recognise Aquarius benefits but also know it comes at a

sacrifice of serenity. The revolutionary, rebellious often erratic

Aquarius going forward for change and better. No??

As Always,

Uttara

p.s.

//Rahu's association with Aquarius is a factor when determining the

effect of his dasa periods,//

Does this mean co-ruler Rahu only become active during his dashas?

jyotish-vidya , " muttaraphalguni "

<muttaraphalguni wrote:

>

> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>

> Thanks for your post below. Added to that I am closely following the

> Australia news regarding the bush fires and its devastating fallout.

> My heart is with all there including you with family interest and

> concerns.

>

> I do not disagree with the post below of yours. What I am trying to

> blend with the humanist of Aquarius and Jupiter transit there, is

> rather, the effects of Aquarius's ruler Saturn with its co-ruler Rahu

> being a major effect on expansive good will Jupiter transit on Aquarius.

>

> Considering that Saturn can be effected negatively and then co-joining

> Rahu to aggravate seems to be the contradiction along with it being

> 2nd from Capricorn Saturn rule with its current transit of Rahu there.

>

> It's a bit confusing before Rahu transits to Sag later in the Fall of

> 2009 and Saturn's transit too that will also transit to Virgo before

> year end this Fall.

>

> Anyway, even if there wasn't the activity in Capricorn, there still is

> the contradiction of affect with good will expansive Jupiter transit

> to Aqaurius Saturn, co-rule Rahu Aquarius to my comprehension. I am

> thinking that there is a struggle for the sign Aquarius to act at a

> higher level of goodwill toward humanity with Jupiter there vs. acting

> at a lower level with co-rule Rahu and Saturn rule. This is not to say

> that Saturn can't not

> act benevolently, it is rather the Rahu connection that seems to be

> the question for the higher affect of Aquarius in its effect.

>

> The confusion is that many will access Aqaurius as irractic and quick

> change in its lower level of action. I am sensing that Jupiter would

> be compromised with the overwhelming effect of lower Aquarius because

> Rahu is negative in its transit to Capricorn ruled Saturn which would

> make the two signs and planets 2 and 12 from each other.

>

> If we could discuss this further i would be most appreciative for

> clarification and understanding.

>

> As Always,

>

> Uttara

>

> p.s. if i don't respond until later tommorow afternoon/evening my

> time, it is because I will be away from my desk pertaining to other

> personal matters :-)

>

> jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Uttara,

> >

> > ///The trouble I am having is reconciling its great benefits in a very

> > erractic and often revolution, rebellious sign Aqaurius///

> >

> > One thing I'm absolutely certain of is that the sages understood the

> > intricacies of jyotish from a level of awareness unobtainable for

> most of

> > us, and, although I may flounder at times in recognising the logic

> behind

> > certain dictums, I'm content, for the most part, to accept the

> > all-encompassing wisdom of the sages.

> >

> > As for Aquarius being an erratic, revolutionary, rebellious sign, I'd

> > like to offer R. Santhanam's opinion of this sign (in part) given in

> > BPHS.

> > " They have a broad outlook and human understanding. They are

UNSELFISH,

> > human and impersonal. They are reserved in nature and great MORALISTS.

> > They have wonderful intuitional capacity...etc. "

> >

> > L.R. Chawdhri (Scientific Analysis of Horoscope) holds similar

views, he

> > says;

> > " Intelligent, good memory and reasoning. Good concentration, KIND,

> > HUMANE, self-controlled. Constant, persevering, HAPPY DISPOSITION.

> > Inventive and psychic...etc. "

> >

> > Wouldn't you agree that the keywords (upper case) are extremely

> > compatible with the basic nature of Jupiter :-)

> >

> > ///with ruler Saturn and co-ruler Rahu.///

> >

> > Rahu's association with Aquarius is a factor when determining the

effect

> > of his dasa periods, and I'm sure all will agree that any association

> > with Jupiter would go a long way to soften his natural

> malefic/hedonistic

> > tendencies...wouldn't you agree?

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

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> > -

> > <muttaraphalguni@>

> > <jyotish-vidya >

> > Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:46 PM

> > Re: Jupiter transit to Aquarius

> >

> > Dear Mrs Wendy,

> >

> > Ah, yes! Jupiter has many benefts and spiritual significance. The

> > trouble I am having is reconciling its great benefits in a very

> > erractic and often revolution, rebellious sign Aqaurius with ruler

> > Saturn and co-ruler Rahu.

> >

> > Can we delve into this more for further understanding?

> >

> > As Always,

> >

> > Uttara

> >

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February 11, 2009

Dear Uttara,

///If I understand properly from what you have written, Mrs.

Wendy, it is the bevolence of Jupiter that tempers Aquarius's Ruler

Saturn and co-ruler Rahu. Without Jupiter then Aquarius can act in

its own erratic ways. yes??///

My intention was rather to point out the compatibility between Jupiter

and Aquarius. Both express idealism to some extent and indicate a certain

philosophical and spiritual bent of mind. Of course every rasi/graha has

certain negative traits also. However, it's my opinion that the sages

praise Jupiter in Aquarius due to the philosophical tendencies inherant

in both.

///Does this mean co-ruler Rahu only become active during his dashas?///

Basically the results due to Rahu will manifest through the house lord

(dispositor)

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy