Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Wendy ji, Here is a nice article on Trishadyas. http://www.hindu.com/2009/06/01/stories/2009060159081400.htm Since this is an extremely small article (less than 400 words) I decided to cut and paste it below. I remembered you when I read this article, when you mentioned how houses 3, 6 and 11 rule kama, krodha and lobha. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ *** Who deserves respect? Chennai: In the Mahabharata, there is an episode in which the Pandavas drink from a lake. As the water is poisonous, all die, except Yudhishtra who has not touched it. Yama, disguised as a Yaksha, approaches Yudhishtra and says that if he answers some questions then he will be allowed to live. Yudhishtra agrees, and Yama puts to him a series of questions. The answers are thought-provoking, and give deep philosophical thoughts in a few lines, said Trichy Kalyanaraman. Yama asks Yudhishtra who is high born. What determines who is worthy of respect — is it education, birth or good conduct? He unhesitatingly replies that it is the ones with good conduct who are worthy of respect. What defines this good conduct that Yudhishtra speaks of? One should be free of certain qualities, namely, kama (desire), krodha (anger), lobha (avarice), moha (delusion), mada (pride), maatsarya (envy). Desire is the root cause of all one’s problems. Everything begins with desire. When a desire is fulfilled, then we want more. So then lobha — greed — enters the picture. And if our desires are thwarted, frustration leading to anger — krodha — is the result. When we desire and do not get what we want, we become envious of others who have something we ardently desire. When we seek and get something, we may become arrogant, or even delude ourselves about our greatness. We forget that life itself is uncertain, and that we may not even be alive the next second, to enjoy that which we sought. In fact it is this delusion about our permanence that Yudhishtra finds surprising, as he tells Yama later on. He says that we are supremely confident of our own lives, even though we see others die. When Yudhishtra answers all the questions satisfactorily, Yama reveals his true form and asks him what he wants as a boon. Yudhishtra asks him to give back life to Nakula. Asked why he chose a stepbrother instead of one of his own brothers, he replies that while he, Yudhishtra, the eldest son of Kunti is alive, it is only fair that the eldest son of his father’s other wife should also live. Thus Yudhishtra not only preached good values, but also adhered to them himself. *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Dear Balaji, Many thanks for that, says it all in a nutshell doesn't it :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Balaji Narasimhan " <sherlockbalaji <jyotish-vidya > Monday, June 01, 2009 2:18 PM Nice article concerning trishadyas Wendy ji, Here is a nice article on Trishadyas. http://www.hindu.com/2009/06/01/stories/2009060159081400.htm Since this is an extremely small article (less than 400 words) I decided to cut and paste it below. I remembered you when I read this article, when you mentioned how houses 3, 6 and 11 rule kama, krodha and lobha. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ *** Who deserves respect? Chennai: In the Mahabharata, there is an episode in which the Pandavas drink from a lake. As the water is poisonous, all die, except Yudhishtra who has not touched it. Yama, disguised as a Yaksha, approaches Yudhishtra and says that if he answers some questions then he will be allowed to live. Yudhishtra agrees, and Yama puts to him a series of questions. The answers are thought-provoking, and give deep philosophical thoughts in a few lines, said Trichy Kalyanaraman. Yama asks Yudhishtra who is high born. What determines who is worthy of respect — is it education, birth or good conduct? He unhesitatingly replies that it is the ones with good conduct who are worthy of respect. What defines this good conduct that Yudhishtra speaks of? One should be free of certain qualities, namely, kama (desire), krodha (anger), lobha (avarice), moha (delusion), mada (pride), maatsarya (envy). Desire is the root cause of all one’s problems. Everything begins with desire. When a desire is fulfilled, then we want more. So then lobha — greed — enters the picture. And if our desires are thwarted, frustration leading to anger — krodha — is the result. When we desire and do not get what we want, we become envious of others who have something we ardently desire. When we seek and get something, we may become arrogant, or even delude ourselves about our greatness. We forget that life itself is uncertain, and that we may not even be alive the next second, to enjoy that which we sought. In fact it is this delusion about our permanence that Yudhishtra finds surprising, as he tells Yama later on. He says that we are supremely confident of our own lives, even though we see others die. When Yudhishtra answers all the questions satisfactorily, Yama reveals his true form and asks him what he wants as a boon. Yudhishtra asks him to give back life to Nakula. Asked why he chose a stepbrother instead of one of his own brothers, he replies that while he, Yudhishtra, the eldest son of Kunti is alive, it is only fair that the eldest son of his father’s other wife should also live. Thus Yudhishtra not only preached good values, but also adhered to them himself. *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Wendy ji, ///Many thanks for that, says it all in a nutshell doesn't it :-)/// Yes, it does. But it set me thinking--if 3, 6, 11 rule kama (desire), krodha (anger) and lobha (avarice), then which houses rule moha (delusion), mada (pride) and maatsarya (envy)? Mada may be ruled by the 1st, which rules the self, and therefore, pride. Moha, like kama, may be assigned to the 3rd, I think. But I can't figure out where matsarya fits in! Of course, at one level, all six may be assoociated with the 6th to an extent because the 6th rules internal enemies. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Balaji, Surely, envy can manifest anywhere. If 6th bhava is afflicted by debilitated Sun perhaps we may be envious of our co-workers, if 11th is afflicted we may be envious of our elder sibling or those amongst our circle of friends 10th house afflicted may indicate envy of those enjoying a higher status than we do etc, etc.. I don't think we can attribute such basic human traits to any one bhava :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Balaji Narasimhan " <sherlockbalaji <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:23 PM Re: Nice article concerning trishadyas Wendy ji, ///Many thanks for that, says it all in a nutshell doesn't it :-)/// Yes, it does. But it set me thinking--if 3, 6, 11 rule kama (desire), krodha (anger) and lobha (avarice), then which houses rule moha (delusion), mada (pride) and maatsarya (envy)? Mada may be ruled by the 1st, which rules the self, and therefore, pride. Moha, like kama, may be assigned to the 3rd, I think. But I can't figure out where matsarya fits in! Of course, at one level, all six may be assoociated with the 6th to an extent because the 6th rules internal enemies. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Mrs Wendy //If 6th Bhava is afflicted by debilitated sun// The lagna is Rishabha if your foregoing statement is to be applied. Am I right? with regards savithri--- On Tue, 2/6/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyaRe: Re: Nice article concerning trishadyasjyotish-vidya Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 3:10 AM Dear Balaji,Surely, envy can manifest anywhere. If 6th bhava is afflicted by debilitated Sun perhaps we may be envious of our co-workers, if 11th is afflicted we may be envious of our elder sibling or those amongst our circle of friends 10th house afflicted may indicate envy of those enjoying a higher status than we do etc, etc..I don't think we can attribute such basic human traits to any one bhava :-)Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya .com____________ _________ _________ _______- "Balaji Narasimhan" <sherlockbalaji@ ><jyotish-vidya>Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:23 PM Re: Nice article concerning trishadyasWendy ji,///Many thanks for that, says it all in a nutshell doesn't it :-)///Yes, it does. But it set me thinking--if 3, 6, 11 rule kama (desire), krodha (anger) and lobha (avarice), then which houses rule moha (delusion), mada (pride) and maatsarya (envy)?Mada may be ruled by the 1st, which rules the self, and therefore, pride.Moha, like kama, may be assigned to the 3rd, I think.But I can't figure out where matsarya fits in!Of course, at one level, all six may be assoociated with the 6th to an extent because the 6th rules internal enemies.~~~~~~~~~Balaji NarasimhanAuthor & Editorhttp://www.balaji. ind.in/~~~~~~~~~ Bring your gang together. Do your thing.. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Dear Savithri, I really was speaking in very general terms...not intending such to be taken too literally. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " SAVITHRI MAHESH " <savithri_mahesh2000 <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:34 PM Re: Re: Nice article concerning trishadyas Dear Mrs Wendy //If 6th Bhava is afflicted by debilitated sun// The lagna is Rishabha if your foregoing statement is to be applied. Am I right? with regards savithri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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