Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 MRS. WENDY/.MR CHANDU JI THANKS FOR CONFIRMING TIME OF BIRTH, THAT IS WHY I AM UNSUCCESSFUL IN EVERY FIELD BECAUSE OF LORD OF ASCENDANT MOON IN 12 TH HOUSE AND KETU IS IN ASCENDANT.LORD OF 9TH HOUSE IN 12TH WHICH IS ALSO NOT GOOD. BUT WHY MARS IN 3RD. HOUSE DO NOT GIVE ME BRAVENESS, IS IT DUE TO MOON LORD OF ASC. DATE OF BIRTH OF MY SON IS 3-06-1988 AT 1.30AM----. BIRTH OF TWINS WAS IN THE LAST WEEK OF FEB- 1985 AND BOTH WERE PREMATURED DELIVERY, AND WERE EXPIRED AFTER FEW HOURS AND MY WIFE WAS HOSPITALISED IN CRITICAL CONDITION FOR A MONTH. ANY INFORMATION OF EVENTS ARE WELCOME. REGARDS, SUBHASH MIGLANI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Dear Subhash, ///THANKS FOR CONFIRMING TIME OF BIRTH,/// Actually this is Chandu's rectification (only) based on his own research which, to date, I can find no scriptural reference to back up? Whether it's legitimate or not I have absolutely no idea? As I have been taught, and, as is practised by most traditional astrologers, the tried and true method of rectification is to verify major events in a person's life. As we know, certain events can only manifest during specific planetary influences. Unfortunately we only have 3 major events to work with and that's not really enough. But let's look at what we have... 1) Marriage: 7 Jun 1981: Dasa for CANCER lagna: SA-ME-VE: In this chart, Venus is conjunct 8th/7th lord Saturn (8th moolatrikona) and 3rd/12th lord Mercury. In transit Mercury and Venus were passing through 12th house. This, in my opinion, is not a favourable transit for such an auspicious occasion as a wedding. Dasa for LEO lagna: SA-ME-MA: In this chart, Venus is conjunct 7th/6th lord Saturn (7th moolatrikona) and 2nd/11th lord Mercury (dispositor of P/D lord Mars). In transit Mercury, conjunct Venus, was passing through 11th house. 11th, as we know signifies fulfilment of hopes and wishes, AUSPICIOUS EVENTS etc; whilst transit Mars and lagnesh Sun were passing through 10th house in sign of Venus. 2a) Loss of new-born twins 26? Feb 1985 2b) Critical condition of spouse. Dasa for CANCER lagna: SA-VE-SU: Dasa for LEO lagna SA-VE-RA 3) Birth of Son 3rd Jun 1988 Dasa for CANCER SA-SU-ME Dasa for LEO SA-MO-RA I haven't looked closely at the effects due to transits for the last two events (children). Perhaps members might care to look into this themselves. I have however noted (briefly) the transit of bhukti lord Venus (and Mars) through 8th house whilst debilitated 8th/5th lord Jupiter transits P/D lord Rahu in 6th. ///BUT WHY MARS IN 3RD. HOUSE DO NOT GIVE ME BRAVENESS, IS IT DUE TO MOON LORD OF ASC./// For CANCER lagna, YogaKaraka Mars (in 3rd) would, in my opinion, indicate courage/bravery... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " subhashmiglani " <subhashmiglani <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:29 PM ascendant con firmation MRS. WENDY/.MR CHANDU JI THANKS FOR CONFIRMING TIME OF BIRTH, THAT IS WHY I AM UNSUCCESSFUL IN EVERY FIELD BECAUSE OF LORD OF ASCENDANT MOON IN 12 TH HOUSE AND KETU IS IN ASCENDANT.LORD OF 9TH HOUSE IN 12TH WHICH IS ALSO NOT GOOD. BUT WHY MARS IN 3RD. HOUSE DO NOT GIVE ME BRAVENESS, IS IT DUE TO MOON LORD OF ASC. DATE OF BIRTH OF MY SON IS 3-06-1988 AT 1.30AM----. BIRTH OF TWINS WAS IN THE LAST WEEK OF FEB- 1985 AND BOTH WERE PREMATURED DELIVERY, AND WERE EXPIRED AFTER FEW HOURS AND MY WIFE WAS HOSPITALISED IN CRITICAL CONDITION FOR A MONTH. ANY INFORMATION OF EVENTS ARE WELCOME. REGARDS, SUBHASH MIGLANI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Mrs Wendy and esteemed members of the group, Please referer to 'JATAKA PARIJATA " by V.Subramanya Sastri, ( 2004 edition) vol.I. - chapter I, sloka 56 - page no. 35. and also chapter III , sloka 76 - page no.165. here it is mentioned that the measurement are useful in finding out the relative lengths of the several parts of a human body. For Birth time rectification generally we use events and try to reach a point using dasa and antardasas, No where in classical text it is mentioned that birth time rectification can be done through dasas. for example to find date of marriage - generally 1st bhava, 1st lord , 7th bhava and 7th lords dasas and antar dasas are considered - however marriage can take place in 6,8 or 12 th lords antardasa also. with regards chandu --- On Mon, 8/6/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: ascendant con firmation jyotish-vidya Monday, 8 June, 2009, 9:23 AM Dear Subhash, ///THANKS FOR CONFIRMING TIME OF BIRTH,/// Actually this is Chandu's rectification (only) based on his own research which, to date, I can find no scriptural reference to back up? Whether it's legitimate or not I have absolutely no idea? As I have been taught, and, as is practised by most traditional astrologers, the tried and true method of rectification is to verify major events in a person's life. As we know, certain events can only manifest during specific planetary influences. Unfortunately we only have 3 major events to work with and that's not really enough. But let's look at what we have... 1) Marriage: 7 Jun 1981: Dasa for CANCER lagna: SA-ME-VE: In this chart, Venus is conjunct 8th/7th lord Saturn (8th moolatrikona) and 3rd/12th lord Mercury. In transit Mercury and Venus were passing through 12th house. This, in my opinion, is not a favourable transit for such an auspicious occasion as a wedding. Dasa for LEO lagna: SA-ME-MA: In this chart, Venus is conjunct 7th/6th lord Saturn (7th moolatrikona) and 2nd/11th lord Mercury (dispositor of P/D lord Mars). In transit Mercury, conjunct Venus, was passing through 11th house. 11th, as we know signifies fulfilment of hopes and wishes, AUSPICIOUS EVENTS etc; whilst transit Mars and lagnesh Sun were passing through 10th house in sign of Venus. 2a) Loss of new-born twins 26? Feb 1985 2b) Critical condition of spouse. Dasa for CANCER lagna: SA-VE-SU: Dasa for LEO lagna SA-VE-RA 3) Birth of Son 3rd Jun 1988 Dasa for CANCER SA-SU-ME Dasa for LEO SA-MO-RA I haven't looked closely at the effects due to transits for the last two events (children). Perhaps members might care to look into this themselves. I have however noted (briefly) the transit of bhukti lord Venus (and Mars) through 8th house whilst debilitated 8th/5th lord Jupiter transits P/D lord Rahu in 6th. ///BUT WHY MARS IN 3RD. HOUSE DO NOT GIVE ME BRAVENESS, IS IT DUE TO MOON LORD OF ASC./// For CANCER lagna, YogaKaraka Mars (in 3rd) would, in my opinion, indicate courage/bravery. .. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ _________ _______ - " subhashmiglani " <subhashmiglani@ .co. in> <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:29 PM ascendant con firmation MRS. WENDY/.MR CHANDU JI THANKS FOR CONFIRMING TIME OF BIRTH, THAT IS WHY I AM UNSUCCESSFUL IN EVERY FIELD BECAUSE OF LORD OF ASCENDANT MOON IN 12 TH HOUSE AND KETU IS IN ASCENDANT.LORD OF 9TH HOUSE IN 12TH WHICH IS ALSO NOT GOOD. BUT WHY MARS IN 3RD. HOUSE DO NOT GIVE ME BRAVENESS, IS IT DUE TO MOON LORD OF ASC. DATE OF BIRTH OF MY SON IS 3-06-1988 AT 1.30AM----. BIRTH OF TWINS WAS IN THE LAST WEEK OF FEB- 1985 AND BOTH WERE PREMATURED DELIVERY, AND WERE EXPIRED AFTER FEW HOURS AND MY WIFE WAS HOSPITALISED IN CRITICAL CONDITION FOR A MONTH. ANY INFORMATION OF EVENTS ARE WELCOME. REGARDS, SUBHASH MIGLANI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Dear Chandu, I do have Jataka Parijata (opened in front of me) and am familiar with the slokas you've mentioned...as well as sloka 8 (Adh.1) which deals specifically with the parts of the body represented by each rashi. Also, as I'm sure you've also read, it's further stated (last portion of sloka 56 Adh.1) that " these figures are useful in finding out the relative lengths of the several PARTS OF THE HUMAN BODY " The notes following sloka 76 (Adh.111) make this quite clear: " Remembering that lagna represents the head, the 2nd house (face), the 3rd neck and so on, one can predict whether the several parts of the body are long or short, or disproportional by the length, shortness or otherwise of the signs typifying the particular part of the body, AS WELL AS BY THE PLANETS OCCUPYING THE PARTICULAR RASHI. " ///No where in classical text it is mentioned that birth time rectification can be done through dasas./// The most fundamental tenet of Vedic astrology is the manifestation of karma (events of life) delivered via the dasa system. This basic tenet (i.e. the significations of the planet and the affairs of the house it occupies will manifest during its dasa) is the backbone of prediction! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " chandu r " <rchandu_98 <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:03 PM Re: ascendant con firmation Mrs Wendy and esteemed members of the group, Please referer to 'JATAKA PARIJATA " by V.Subramanya Sastri, ( 2004 edition) vol.I. - chapter I, sloka 56 - page no. 35. and also chapter III , sloka 76 - page no.165. here it is mentioned that the measurement are useful in finding out the relative lengths of the several parts of a human body. For Birth time rectification generally we use events and try to reach a point using dasa and antardasas, No where in classical text it is mentioned that birth time rectification can be done through dasas. for example to find date of marriage - generally 1st bhava, 1st lord , 7th bhava and 7th lords dasas and antar dasas are considered - however marriage can take place in 6,8 or 12 th lords antardasa also. with regards chandu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Dear Chandu, Although I realise not everyone has the opportunity to learn from a recognised teacher (or institution), the benefits of personal instruction cannot be measured. Yes, we're fortunate to have the classics, such as BPHS etc, at our fingertips; however formal education from a Guru (or teacher) shines a clear light on texts that may often be misunderstood (or misinterpreted). As most know, I did study Maharishi jyotish under the guidance of recognised (Maharishi) teachers... I mention this and provide the following link in support of the technique for rectification I follow. I do hope you will take the time to read through it. https://forms.netsuite.com/app/site/crm/externalcustrecordpage.nl?compid=ACCT138\ 578 & formid=23 & h=b227e6df8128909daa96 Rectification is a lengthy and time-consuming exercise, no doubt, and I'm satisfied, with my diminished energy level these days, just to come close enough to establish the correct lagna. I'm not saying that I established which lagna was right for Subhash (one event is not enough). I simply wanted to show how this is done, so that anyone interested in trying their hand at it might be encouraged to put in the work. Subhash, I'm sure, would benefit greatly by making some effort himself to verify as many major events in his life as he can. It would be great If others, following this technique, came to the conclusion that Cancer is the correct lagna...I have no preference one way or the other, just trying to show how to go about it in a systematic way. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:46 AM Re: ascendant con firmation Dear Chandu, I do have Jataka Parijata (opened in front of me) and am familiar with the slokas you've mentioned...as well as sloka 8 (Adh.1) which deals specifically with the parts of the body represented by each rashi. Also, as I'm sure you've also read, it's further stated (last portion of sloka 56 Adh.1) that " these figures are useful in finding out the relative lengths of the several PARTS OF THE HUMAN BODY " The notes following sloka 76 (Adh.111) make this quite clear: " Remembering that lagna represents the head, the 2nd house (face), the 3rd neck and so on, one can predict whether the several parts of the body are long or short, or disproportional by the length, shortness or otherwise of the signs typifying the particular part of the body, AS WELL AS BY THE PLANETS OCCUPYING THE PARTICULAR RASHI. " ///No where in classical text it is mentioned that birth time rectification can be done through dasas./// The most fundamental tenet of Vedic astrology is the manifestation of karma (events of life) delivered via the dasa system. This basic tenet (i.e. the significations of the planet and the affairs of the house it occupies will manifest during its dasa) is the backbone of prediction! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " chandu r " <rchandu_98 <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:03 PM Re: ascendant con firmation Mrs Wendy and esteemed members of the group, Please referer to 'JATAKA PARIJATA " by V.Subramanya Sastri, ( 2004 edition) vol.I. - chapter I, sloka 56 - page no. 35. and also chapter III , sloka 76 - page no.165. here it is mentioned that the measurement are useful in finding out the relative lengths of the several parts of a human body. For Birth time rectification generally we use events and try to reach a point using dasa and antardasas, No where in classical text it is mentioned that birth time rectification can be done through dasas. for example to find date of marriage - generally 1st bhava, 1st lord , 7th bhava and 7th lords dasas and antar dasas are considered - however marriage can take place in 6,8 or 12 th lords antardasa also. with regards chandu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Dear Sir, I wish to write a few lines here….. >>>For Birth time rectification generally we use events and try to reach a point using dasa and antardasas, >>> Of course, there are number of other methods (mathematical) available for birth time rectification and are mentioned in classics. Classics do mention, with the placement of planets, for example, what could have been happened to the mother at the time of birth, how many attendants were present during the birth time, where was the father at the time of birth, where the birth took place viz. in the paternal grand father's house or on the streets, or on the side of a river so on and so forth… However, a profitable and reliable method is, using known events and rectifying the birth time. It is time consuming and tedious, still it is the very dependable method. Surely it is one of the best ways for a student to improve his ability to give predictions. >>>No where in classical text it is mentioned that birth time rectification can be done through dasas. for example to find date of marriage - generally 1st bhava, 1st lord , 7th bhava and 7th lords dasas and antar dasas are considered - however marriage can take place in 6,8 or 12 th lords antardasa also.>>> Absolutely, marriage can take place in 6,8 and 12th lords antar dasha also. Lordships are considered, not only from Lagna proper, to consider a favourable time for marriage. A planet, which owns the 6th house from proper lagna, could be the 7th lord from Moon or from Venus. The very 6th lord could be with the 7th Lord of lagna proper. The very 6th lord could be the Navamsa dispositor of 7th Lord. What does the meaning here? During the marriage there could be disputes and quarrels, there could be theft or loss of valuables at the time of marriage and at the place of marriage…. That is all. One cannot confine the role of dashas to a very limited purpose. Classics give valuable hints. An intelligent astrologer makes use of them in his endevour to reach the right birth time. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani ==================================================================== jyotish-vidya , chandu r <rchandu_98 wrote: > > Mrs Wendy and esteemed members of the group, > > Please referer to 'JATAKA PARIJATA " by V.Subramanya Sastri, ( 2004 edition) vol.I. > > - chapter I, sloka 56 - page no. 35. and also chapter III , sloka 76 - page no.165. here it is mentioned that the measurement are useful in finding out the relative lengths of the several parts of a human body. > > For Birth time rectification generally we use events and try to reach a point using dasa and antardasas, > > No where in classical text it is mentioned that birth time rectification can be done through dasas. > > for example to find date of marriage - generally 1st bhava, 1st lord , 7th bhava and 7th lords > > dasas and antar dasas are considered - however marriage can take place in 6,8 or 12 th lords > > antardasa also. > > with regards > > chandu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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