Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dear All, I have been taught only to use the Ashtakavarga for garnering info on transits. However recently I came across the book " Dots of Destiny " , where by the author makes a case for a more predictive use of Ashtakavarga beyond just transits. I have not read the book yet (my oppressive schedule does not give me much free time). Any comments regarding this topic on the expanded use of Ashtakavarga techniques? Regards, -Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dear Friends, The classical texts while delineating about behaviour of planets and their cosmic effects as per natal postions on the day of epoch have also felt importance of Gochara/transit of plannets and and established through the shodas vargas to assess strength of houses as well as plants through Ashtaka Varga.Of the A.V,Sarvashtaka varga gives over all view of the strength of the various planets as well as houses.where as Bhinnashtaka Varga is of immense use as a tool how each planets having a lordship over a house indicates strength as well as the impact the planet likely to give result during Dasa/anatar/partyanatar/sookshma.Results extended by planets over a period of time and with the transit of all planets give good or bad results depending on nature of planets and PAC. Ashtaka Varga is some what a very comprehensive diagnostic aspect to find the way of results likely to be delivered.we always disseminate 70% of the indications by natal chart and the remaining 30% always has to be considered from Gochara/transit of planets,considered from moon/lagna as the case may be. vrkrishnan --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Ashtakavarga Beyond Transits ? " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 6, 2009, 11:19 AM Dear All, I have been taught only to use the Ashtakavarga for garnering info on transits. However recently I came across the book " Dots of Destiny " , where by the author makes a case for a more predictive use of Ashtakavarga beyond just transits. I have not read the book yet (my oppressive schedule does not give me much free time). Any comments regarding this topic on the expanded use of Ashtakavarga techniques? Regards, -Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Dear Mr VRkrishnan, Thank you sir for your answer. Would you be kind enough to illustrate with an example? For example I have at hand a chart with Scorpio Lagna, 7th L Ve in 8th house.Assuming SAV of 8th house is 19, and BAV of Ve in 8th house is 5 (all calculated with respect to Scorpio Lagna), how would the analysis proceed? Much Regards, -Manoj ________________________________ vattem krishnan <bursar_99 jyotish-vidya Saturday, June 6, 2009 5:56:43 PM Re: Ashtakavarga Beyond Transits ? Dear Friends, The classical texts while delineating about behaviour of planets and their cosmic effects as per natal postions on the day of epoch have also felt importance of Gochara/transit of plannets and and established through the shodas vargas to assess strength of houses as well as plants through Ashtaka Varga.Of the A.V,Sarvashtaka varga gives over all view of the strength of the various planets as well as houses.where as Bhinnashtaka Varga is of immense use as a tool how each planets having a lordship over a house indicates strength as well as the impact the planet likely to give result during Dasa/anatar/ partyanatar/ sookshma. Results extended by planets over a period of time and with the transit of all planets give good or bad results depending on nature of planets and PAC. Ashtaka Varga is some what a very comprehensive diagnostic aspect to find the way of results likely to be delivered.we always disseminate 70% of the indications by natal chart and the remaining 30% always has to be considered from Gochara/transit of planets,considered from moon/lagna as the case may be. vrkrishnan --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > Ashtakavarga Beyond Transits ? " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, June 6, 2009, 11:19 AM Dear All, I have been taught only to use the Ashtakavarga for garnering info on transits. However recently I came across the book " Dots of Destiny " , where by the author makes a case for a more predictive use of Ashtakavarga beyond just transits. I have not read the book yet (my oppressive schedule does not give me much free time). Any comments regarding this topic on the expanded use of Ashtakavarga techniques? Regards, -Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Dear Manoj Ji, In Saravshtaka Varga 8th scoring 19 Bindus also gives clues to the stregth of the karak saturn.As ayush karak and being a secret house 8th becomes gemini ruled by mercury,an airy sign.It certainly has impact as 8th for woman normally is 2nd for 8th indicating the status/class of inlaws that provides also basis for understanding. venus as karak for males for marraige placement in 8th leads to intimacy problems.This relationship further need to be seen from palcement of dispositor too.8th house itself is a secret and it represents many things.Lagna being scorpio,is a natural 8th house in kalpurusha and these people tend to be secretive and as mars ruled people their emotional level too is always a matter of concern. These issues come up from the study of chart and SAV provides help to asses strength of house and palnets apart from transi/gochara issues. In jyotish if at all any inconsistenct is felt it is because that jyotish is a wholistic approach and we can not infer on piece meal basis.Transits otherwise for timing are equally important for dasa analysis.Reslts of the dasas in no uncertain terms are in tune with the strength and dispositions of houses,lordshipa and planets.SAV could be a device as a probe to delineate various events of life cycle vrkrishnan --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Re: Ashtakavarga Beyond Transits ? jyotish-vidya Sunday, June 7, 2009, 12:41 AM Dear Mr VRkrishnan, Thank you sir for your answer. Would you be kind enough to illustrate with an example? For example I have at hand a chart with Scorpio Lagna, 7th L Ve in 8th house.Assuming SAV of 8th house is 19, and BAV of Ve in 8th house is 5 (all calculated with respect to Scorpio Lagna), how would the analysis proceed? Much Regards, -Manoj ____________ _________ _________ __ vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > jyotish-vidya Saturday, June 6, 2009 5:56:43 PM Re: Ashtakavarga Beyond Transits ? Dear Friends, The classical texts while delineating about behaviour of planets and their cosmic effects as per natal postions on the day of epoch have also felt importance of Gochara/transit of plannets and and established through the shodas vargas to assess strength of houses as well as plants through Ashtaka Varga.Of the A.V,Sarvashtaka varga gives over all view of the strength of the various planets as well as houses.where as Bhinnashtaka Varga is of immense use as a tool how each planets having a lordship over a house indicates strength as well as the impact the planet likely to give result during Dasa/anatar/ partyanatar/ sookshma. Results extended by planets over a period of time and with the transit of all planets give good or bad results depending on nature of planets and PAC. Ashtaka Varga is some what a very comprehensive diagnostic aspect to find the way of results likely to be delivered.we always disseminate 70% of the indications by natal chart and the remaining 30% always has to be considered from Gochara/transit of planets,considered from moon/lagna as the case may be. vrkrishnan --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > Ashtakavarga Beyond Transits ? " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, June 6, 2009, 11:19 AM Dear All, I have been taught only to use the Ashtakavarga for garnering info on transits. However recently I came across the book " Dots of Destiny " , where by the author makes a case for a more predictive use of Ashtakavarga beyond just transits. I have not read the book yet (my oppressive schedule does not give me much free time). Any comments regarding this topic on the expanded use of Ashtakavarga techniques? Regards, -Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Dear Krishnan Ji, Thank you for your nice analysis and illustration. Regards, -Manoj ________________________________ vattem krishnan <bursar_99 jyotish-vidya Sunday, June 7, 2009 6:04:32 PM Re: Ashtakavarga Beyond Transits ? Dear Manoj Ji, In Saravshtaka Varga 8th scoring 19 Bindus also gives clues to the stregth of the karak saturn.As ayush karak and being a secret house 8th becomes gemini ruled by mercury,an airy sign.It certainly has impact as 8th for woman normally is 2nd for 8th indicating the status/class of inlaws that provides also basis for understanding. venus as karak for males for marraige placement in 8th leads to intimacy problems.This relationship further need to be seen from palcement of dispositor too.8th house itself is a secret and it represents many things.Lagna being scorpio,is a natural 8th house in kalpurusha and these people tend to be secretive and as mars ruled people their emotional level too is always a matter of concern. These issues come up from the study of chart and SAV provides help to asses strength of house and palnets apart from transi/gochara issues. In jyotish if at all any inconsistenct is felt it is because that jyotish is a wholistic approach and we can not infer on piece meal basis.Transits otherwise for timing are equally important for dasa analysis.Reslts of the dasas in no uncertain terms are in tune with the strength and dispositions of houses,lordshipa and planets.SAV could be a device as a probe to delineate various events of life cycle vrkrishnan --- On Sun, 6/7/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > Re: Ashtakavarga Beyond Transits ? jyotish-vidya Sunday, June 7, 2009, 12:41 AM Dear Mr VRkrishnan, Thank you sir for your answer. Would you be kind enough to illustrate with an example? For example I have at hand a chart with Scorpio Lagna, 7th L Ve in 8th house.Assuming SAV of 8th house is 19, and BAV of Ve in 8th house is 5 (all calculated with respect to Scorpio Lagna), how would the analysis proceed? Much Regards, -Manoj ____________ _________ _________ __ vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > jyotish-vidya Saturday, June 6, 2009 5:56:43 PM Re: Ashtakavarga Beyond Transits ? Dear Friends, The classical texts while delineating about behaviour of planets and their cosmic effects as per natal postions on the day of epoch have also felt importance of Gochara/transit of plannets and and established through the shodas vargas to assess strength of houses as well as plants through Ashtaka Varga.Of the A.V,Sarvashtaka varga gives over all view of the strength of the various planets as well as houses.where as Bhinnashtaka Varga is of immense use as a tool how each planets having a lordship over a house indicates strength as well as the impact the planet likely to give result during Dasa/anatar/ partyanatar/ sookshma. Results extended by planets over a period of time and with the transit of all planets give good or bad results depending on nature of planets and PAC. Ashtaka Varga is some what a very comprehensive diagnostic aspect to find the way of results likely to be delivered.we always disseminate 70% of the indications by natal chart and the remaining 30% always has to be considered from Gochara/transit of planets,considered from moon/lagna as the case may be. vrkrishnan --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > Ashtakavarga Beyond Transits ? " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya> Saturday, June 6, 2009, 11:19 AM Dear All, I have been taught only to use the Ashtakavarga for garnering info on transits. However recently I came across the book " Dots of Destiny " , where by the author makes a case for a more predictive use of Ashtakavarga beyond just transits. I have not read the book yet (my oppressive schedule does not give me much free time). Any comments regarding this topic on the expanded use of Ashtakavarga techniques? Regards, -Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Dear Manoj, ///I have been taught only to use the Ashtakavarga for garnering info on transits./// As I'm sure you know, AshtakaVarga, primarily intended to be used in transit analysis, is just one method (of prediction) available within the broad spectrum of Vedic astrology. I personally prefer to judge the strength of Grahas as per their position (relative to each other) i.e.permanent + temporary relationship. Quite obviously, as we've discussed here several times, conflict arises when the two techniques are used simultaneously. Each astrologer must therefore decide for himself which technique he wants to employ. ///Any comments regarding this topic on the expanded use of Ashtakavarga techniques?/// One of our members has a discussion group which focuses exclusively on AshtakaVarga, perhaps you might like to take a look / Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Manoj Chandran " <chandran_manoj " Jyotish Vidya " <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 06, 2009 11:19 PM Ashtakavarga Beyond Transits ? Dear All, I have been taught only to use the Ashtakavarga for garnering info on transits. However recently I came across the book " Dots of Destiny " , where by the author makes a case for a more predictive use of Ashtakavarga beyond just transits. I have not read the book yet (my oppressive schedule does not give me much free time). Any comments regarding this topic on the expanded use of Ashtakavarga techniques? Regards, -Manoj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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