Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Dear All, Could you please throw some light on how to predict the outcome of a litigation with some example cases, if possible? kind regards, venkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Dear Venkat Ji, Issue relating to litigation could be identified from Dusthansa mainly 6,8 and 12 houses.if creer related from 6th,house property and legacy from 8th and other issues from 12th. Depending on the nature of litigation we make the house as lagna and find the postion and relative strength of 6th house.If benifics as pect,the result could be postive.if dusthansa have malefic planets problems arise mainly out of dispute and misunderstanding.Complete discussion on a specific instance if cited by you could be examined and discussed. In the Zodiacs Virgo represented by Mercury lord leads to business disputes. Incase lords of these dustanas too happens to be retrograde the leagal battles will be protracted and take time for settlement. Compensations,Insurance claims and their settlement could be covered under the strength of 8th house and strength of lord of the 8th house.Inheritance ,good will and disputes with spouse could also be identified. we need an instance for better understanding as the nature of leagal dispute matters.our other members can further throw light with instance if any available immediately with them please vrkrishnan--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Venkat <venkat_indy wrote: Venkat <venkat_indy Predicting the outcome of litigationjyotish-vidya Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 8:36 AM Dear All,Could you please throw some light on how to predict the outcome of a litigation with some example cases, if possible?kind regards,venkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Dear Venkat, Krishnan and All, As I understand it, litigation is the process of bringing a legal dispute to court i.e. a civil claim as opposed to a criminal prosecution... And again (as I understand it) such (court) cases would be seen from 7th house whereas a criminal prosecution would (more likely) be seen from 8th(?). The possibility of imprisonment (criminal prosecution) would be seen from 12th house. In terms of litigation, if one were to lose, the 6th (12th from 7th) also significator for debts, would need to be considered. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Venkat " <venkat_indy <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:36 PM Predicting the outcome of litigation Dear All, Could you please throw some light on how to predict the outcome of a litigation with some example cases, if possible? kind regards, venkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 PS: I might add here... The terminology itself points the way to the related houses (I would think). In criminal cases the one bringing the action is called the prosecutor and the one being charged is called the accused...being accused (falsely or not) is related to 8th house. In regards to litigation, the one bringing the action is called the plaintiff and the one the action is brought against is called the defendant. ___ Dear Venkat, Krishnan and All, As I understand it, litigation is the process of bringing a legal dispute to court i.e. a civil claim as opposed to a criminal prosecution... And again (as I understand it) such (court) cases would be seen from 7th house whereas a criminal prosecution would (more likely) be seen from 8th(?). The possibility of imprisonment (criminal prosecution) would be seen from 12th house. In terms of litigation, if one were to lose, the 6th (12th from 7th) also significator for debts, would need to be considered. Others views on this are welcome :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Venkat " <venkat_indy <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:36 PM Predicting the outcome of litigation Dear All, Could you please throw some light on how to predict the outcome of a litigation with some example cases, if possible? kind regards, venkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Wendy ji, ///In terms of litigation, if one were to lose, the 6th (12th from 7th) also significator for debts, would need to be considered./// Well, since it is usually our enemies who drag us to court, shouldn't we consider 6th right from the beginning? ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Dear Balaji, ///Well, since it is usually our enemies who drag us to court, shouldn't we consider 6th right from the beginning?/// I haven't been able to reach a definitive answer to this Balaji, but yes! this question has crossed my mind. I'll try to find some examples we can study...might take a little time though. Other members might also have some examples they can submit with correct date, reason for litigation etc.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Balaji Narasimhan " <sherlockbalaji <jyotish-vidya > Friday, June 26, 2009 2:41 PM Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation Wendy ji, ///In terms of litigation, if one were to lose, the 6th (12th from 7th) also significator for debts, would need to be considered./// Well, since it is usually our enemies who drag us to court, shouldn't we consider 6th right from the beginning? ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Balaji,I wouldn't necessarily say that "it is our enemies who drag us to court". Litigation is merely a dispute between two parties where external help (either arbitration or court) is sought. So unless the case has roots in malefic intention 6th house will give only partial read. Often greed has seen to be a driver of all these cases.Just my thoughts.Regards,Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalajijyotish-vidya Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:41:49 AM Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation Wendy ji, ///In terms of litigation, if one were to lose, the 6th (12th from 7th) also significator for debts, would need to be considered./ // Well, since it is usually our enemies who drag us to court, shouldn't we consider 6th right from the beginning? ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji. ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Dear Friends. Not able to resolve and find desperate to seek solutions from justice/courts involve in litigation.basically it is a communication failure or revoking the accepted conventions and feel aggrieved concern litigation. As 6th being 12th to 5th it is somewaht erosion of Dharma and being 2nd it concerns ardha bahva in vloving settlements through courts.It might signify enemies but not that they only drag to courts.being 6th it ahs malefic contention involved and prolong the matter for no justified reason. vrkrishnan--- On Fri, 6/26/09, Anshoom Jain <anshoom wrote: Anshoom Jain <anshoomRe: Re: Predicting the outcome of litigationjyotish-vidya Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 8:52 AM Balaji, I wouldn't necessarily say that "it is our enemies who drag us to court". Litigation is merely a dispute between two parties where external help (either arbitration or court) is sought. So unless the case has roots in malefic intention 6th house will give only partial read. Often greed has seen to be a driver of all these cases. Just my thoughts. Regards, Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji@ >jyotish-vidyaFriday, June 26, 2009 1:41:49 AM Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation Wendy ji,///In terms of litigation, if one were to lose, the 6th (12th from 7th) also significator for debts, would need to be considered./ //Well, since it is usually our enemies who drag us to court, shouldn't we consider 6th right from the beginning?~~~~~~~~~Balaji NarasimhanAuthor & Editorhttp://www.balaji. ind.in/~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Dear Balaji Ji, For sure if the litigation inolves divorce (including child custody etc) 6th house is crucial. -Manoj Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalajijyotish-vidya Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:41:49 PM Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation Wendy ji,///In terms of litigation, if one were to lose, the 6th (12th from 7th) also significator for debts, would need to be considered./ //Well, since it is usually our enemies who drag us to court, shouldn't we consider 6th right from the beginning?~~~~~~~~~Balaji NarasimhanAuthor & Editorhttp://www.balaji. ind.in/~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Dear Manoj, Balaji, Anshoom and All, This discussion has presented me with a bit of a problem :-( I divorced my first husband (on grounds of adultery) many long years ago...probably around 30 yrs now, I think? I tried yesterday to lay my hands on the documents...all important documents (birth certificates etc, etc) I've stored safely in one folder SOMEWHERE? Problem is I seem to have stored them so safely I can't find them...what a headache! The case did involve custody of the children etc.. It was during Saturn dasa (lagnesh Saturn in 6th) but I have no idea of antar or pratyantar dasas. I went through every storage box yesterday...there are many! Now there's only one last place I can look, but I've ran out of energy, I'm afraid...will continue the search as soon as I feel able. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Manoj Chandran " <chandran_manoj <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 27, 2009 6:21 AM Re: Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation Dear Balaji Ji, For sure if the litigation inolves divorce (including child custody etc) 6th house is crucial. -Manoj ________________________________ Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji jyotish-vidya Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:41:49 PM Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation Wendy ji, ///In terms of litigation, if one were to lose, the 6th (12th from 7th) also significator for debts, would need to be considered./ // Well, since it is usually our enemies who drag us to court, shouldn't we consider 6th right from the beginning? ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji. ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 - A very interesting discussion . Agree with the view about 6th house being related to litigation or litigation related activity. The outcome , is easy to see from the prasna chart and very reliable. Perhaps other learned members would be able to discuss this further . Regards, Neena -- In jyotish-vidya , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Balaji Ji, > > For sure if the litigation inolves divorce (including child custody etc) 6th house is crucial. > > -Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji > jyotish-vidya > Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:41:49 PM > Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation Wendy ji, > > ///In terms of litigation, if one were to lose, the 6th (12th from 7th) also significator for debts, would need to be considered./ // > > Well, since it is usually our enemies who drag us to court, shouldn't we consider 6th right from the beginning? > > ~~~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan > Author & Editor > http://www.balaji. ind.in/ > ~~~~~~~~~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Dear Neena and All, Although I've had to (temporarily) suspend the search for my own documents, I have managed to find some information on Deepak Chopra who, as we know, has been involved in litigation several times...both as the plaintiff and as the defendant. A lawsuit for plagiarism was filed against him on 23rd Jan 1997 which was settled " out of court " on 15th Jan 1998. For anyone interested, here is his data: Deepak Chopra 22 Oct 1946 (15:51) New Delhi, India No doubt, with lagnesh Saturn in 6th house of " Enemies " , he's had to face many enemies in his life. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " neenako " <neena-k <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:33 PM Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation - A very interesting discussion . Agree with the view about 6th house being related to litigation or litigation related activity. The outcome , is easy to see from the prasna chart and very reliable. Perhaps other learned members would be able to discuss this further . Regards, Neena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 PS: My thoughts are that, litigation per se may be seen from 6th and criminal charges from 8th, whilst court appearance itself (for whatever reason) may be seen from 7th... ___ Dear Neena and All, Although I've had to (temporarily) suspend the search for my own documents, I have managed to find some information on Deepak Chopra who, as we know, has been involved in litigation several times...both as the plaintiff and as the defendant. A lawsuit for plagiarism was filed against him on 23rd Jan 1997 which was settled " out of court " on 15th Jan 1998. For anyone interested, here is his data: Deepak Chopra 22 Oct 1946 (15:51) New Delhi, India No doubt, with lagnesh Saturn in 6th house of " Enemies " , he's had to face many enemies in his life. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Dear Mrs. Wendy and All, Here is the data of a friend of mine. Nov, 30, 1966, 5:04 AM, Kansas City Missouri, USA He is currently going through a very ugly divorce and child custody battle. Notice he is running a strong Sa dasha. Sa-Rahu started separation and for the last two years the couple have been separated. Official divorce proceedings in court started Jan 2009 (Sa- Ju). Jupiter is the exalted 6th lord of Rashi in 10th house. In the D-9 Jupiter is in the 8th house with Rahu. Jupiter is also the D-9 lagna lord. I am in a bad time crunch so cannot do more exhaustive analysis. But interesting questions for the group are: Is he going to financially gain or lose from this divorce? Is he going to win custody of children or atleast 50/50 with his wife (soon to be ex-wife)? A bonus question is : What was the profession of the wife before marriage? The answer to the above question is very interesting and intruiguing. I will be honest and say that when I got his chart first, I could NOT guess his wife's profession from this chart. Interestingly her profession changed after marriage and she went into a profession that I HAD Guessed from my analysis initially !!! So there are enough clues for any one willing to attempt !!! Regards, -Manoj Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyajyotish-vidya Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 6:22:10 AMRe: Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation PS: My thoughts are that, litigation per se may be seen from 6th andcriminal charges from 8th, whilst court appearance itself (for whateverreason) may be seen from 7th...____________ _________ _________ _______Dear Neena and All,Although I've had to (temporarily) suspend the search for my owndocuments, I have managed to find some information on Deepak Chopra who,as we know, has been involved in litigation several times...both as theplaintiff and as the defendant.A lawsuit for plagiarism was filed against him on 23rd Jan 1997 which wassettled "out of court" on 15th Jan 1998.For anyone interested, here is his data:Deepak Chopra22 Oct 1946 (15:51)New Delhi, IndiaNo doubt, with lagnesh Saturn in 6th house of "Enemies", he's had to facemany enemies in his life.Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com____________ _________ _________ _______ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 - Dear Wendy, I fully agree that litigation is in the domain of the 6th house, but everyone does not go through litigations in their lifetime. So what is it about the 6th house that may lead to litigations? Is it something to do with the 6th lord or the planet posited in the 6th or any other influence? Litigations may be due to a variety of reasons e.g. marriage and divorce, or property matters, intellectual property matters, criminal matters etc. The weakness of other houses should also be considered to arrive at a conclusion that litigation will take place . Like , the house of marriage should show some problems , for litigation to arise due to marriage. Sometimes matters are settled amicably without recourse to litigations. It is said that placement of malefics in the 6th house gives victory over enemies. And benefics will help the enemies. I have not checked the chart of Deepak Chopra, but will go over it to find some clues to indications for litigations. Regards, Neena -- In jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > PS: My thoughts are that, litigation per se may be seen from 6th and > criminal charges from 8th, whilst court appearance itself (for whatever > reason) may be seen from 7th... > ___ > > > > Dear Neena and All, > > Although I've had to (temporarily) suspend the search for my own > documents, I have managed to find some information on Deepak Chopra who, > as we know, has been involved in litigation several times...both as the > plaintiff and as the defendant. > > A lawsuit for plagiarism was filed against him on 23rd Jan 1997 which was > settled " out of court " on 15th Jan 1998. > > For anyone interested, here is his data: > > Deepak Chopra > 22 Oct 1946 (15:51) > New Delhi, India > > No doubt, with lagnesh Saturn in 6th house of " Enemies " , he's had to face > many enemies in his life. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Dear Neena, ///Litigations may be due to a variety of reasons e.g. marriage and divorce, or property matters, intellectual property matters, criminal matters etc./// Absolutely! Therefore 6th from any house needs to be considered, although I wouldn't necessarily assign criminal matters to 6th. In my opinion 6th is a house of disputes rather than criminal matters. Let's look at Deepak's chart for a moment. At the time when the litigation (for plagiarism) was filed, he was running dasa of JU-MA-VE... As we know, plagiarism applies to published (literary) works and, if I'm not mistaken, 9th house governs publishing... Dasa lord Jupiter, owning 6th from 9th, is conjunct bhukti lord Mars in 9th whilst 9th lord Venus (P/D lord) occupies 10th in conjunction with Ketu. Also, as I said in an earlier mail, lagna lord in 6th house denotes one who may have to deal with enemies throughout their life. I've even had people tell me, much to my surprise, that they hate Chopra...and I'm quite sure he's never done anything to them (personally) to justify such strong dislike...but many people do seem to feel like that? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " neenako " <neena-k <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, June 28, 2009 12:51 AM Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation - Dear Wendy, I fully agree that litigation is in the domain of the 6th house, but everyone does not go through litigations in their lifetime. So what is it about the 6th house that may lead to litigations? Is it something to do with the 6th lord or the planet posited in the 6th or any other influence? Litigations may be due to a variety of reasons e.g. marriage and divorce, or property matters, intellectual property matters, criminal matters etc. The weakness of other houses should also be considered to arrive at a conclusion that litigation will take place . Like , the house of marriage should show some problems , for litigation to arise due to marriage. Sometimes matters are settled amicably without recourse to litigations. It is said that placement of malefics in the 6th house gives victory over enemies. And benefics will help the enemies. I have not checked the chart of Deepak Chopra, but will go over it to find some clues to indications for litigations. Regards, Neena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 - Dear Wendy, Just had a quick look at Deepak Chopra's chart. Saturn the lagna lord is in the 6th. Being the lagna lord it has to enhance the indications of the 6th at the same time because of the inherent nature of Saturn being malefic it will destroy the enemies. That could possibly be the indication of increasing number of enemies at the same time giving victory over the enemies. As you have mentioned that his legal cases took place in JU-MA-VE dasa, this time period is not related to the 6th house. I cannot find the reasons for litigation to take place in this dasa , unless the nakshtra positions indicate the same (I have not checked those). But Saturn and Moon are forming a formidable vipreet raj yoga. Just straying a little off the topic-- Moon in the 8th house is said to give BALARISHTA. Do you know if Deepak Chopra's childhood had any such influences? Coming back to the question of the outcome of litigation, I still feel that a prasna chart would give a fairly accurate answer to this. Litigation would involve more than one party, to find out who will be successful one would need to see the charts of all the parties involved. This may be too arduous and sometimes not possible. In such situations a prasna chart is resorted to. Regards, Neena -- In jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Neena, > > ///Litigations may be due to a variety of reasons e.g. marriage and > divorce, or property matters, intellectual property matters, criminal > matters etc./// > > Absolutely! Therefore 6th from any house needs to be considered, although > I wouldn't necessarily assign criminal matters to 6th. In my opinion 6th > is a house of disputes rather than criminal matters. > > Let's look at Deepak's chart for a moment. At the time when the > litigation (for plagiarism) was filed, he was running dasa of JU-MA-VE... > As we know, plagiarism applies to published (literary) works and, if I'm > not mistaken, 9th house governs publishing... > > Dasa lord Jupiter, owning 6th from 9th, is conjunct bhukti lord Mars in > 9th whilst 9th lord Venus (P/D lord) occupies 10th in conjunction with > Ketu. > > Also, as I said in an earlier mail, lagna lord in 6th house denotes one > who may have to deal with enemies throughout their life. I've even had > people tell me, much to my surprise, that they hate Chopra...and I'm > quite sure he's never done anything to them (personally) to justify such > strong dislike...but many people do seem to feel like that? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " neenako " <neena-k > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, June 28, 2009 12:51 AM > Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation > > > - > Dear Wendy, > > I fully agree that litigation is in the domain of the 6th house, but > everyone does not go through litigations in their lifetime. So what is it > about the 6th house that may lead to litigations? > > Is it something to do with the 6th lord or the planet posited in the 6th > or any other influence? > > Litigations may be due to a variety of reasons e.g. marriage and divorce, > or property matters, intellectual property matters, criminal matters etc. > > The weakness of other houses should also be considered to arrive at a > conclusion that litigation will take place . Like , the house of marriage > should show some problems , for litigation to arise due to marriage. > Sometimes matters are settled amicably without recourse to litigations. > > It is said that placement of malefics in the 6th house gives victory over > enemies. And benefics will help the enemies. > > I have not checked the chart of Deepak Chopra, but will go over it to > find some clues to indications for litigations. > > Regards, > Neena > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Dear Neena, ///As you have mentioned that his legal cases took place in JU-MA-VE dasa, this time period is not related to the 6th house. I cannot find the reasons for litigation to take place in this dasa/// Have you forgotten that bhukti lord Mars is karaka for 6th? Mars is conjunct dasa lord Jupiter who owns 6th from 9th (publishing) Also bear in mind the date the litigation was settled (out of court)...15th Jan 1998 during dasa of JU-RA-SA. Look also at the transits for these two dates i.e. notice of litigation and settlement of same. Both seem quite clear to me? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " neenako " <neena-k <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:33 AM Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation - Dear Wendy, Just had a quick look at Deepak Chopra's chart. Saturn the lagna lord is in the 6th. Being the lagna lord it has to enhance the indications of the 6th at the same time because of the inherent nature of Saturn being malefic it will destroy the enemies. That could possibly be the indication of increasing number of enemies at the same time giving victory over the enemies. As you have mentioned that his legal cases took place in JU-MA-VE dasa, this time period is not related to the 6th house. I cannot find the reasons for litigation to take place in this dasa , unless the nakshtra positions indicate the same (I have not checked those). But Saturn and Moon are forming a formidable vipreet raj yoga. Just straying a little off the topic-- Moon in the 8th house is said to give BALARISHTA. Do you know if Deepak Chopra's childhood had any such influences? Coming back to the question of the outcome of litigation, I still feel that a prasna chart would give a fairly accurate answer to this. Litigation would involve more than one party, to find out who will be successful one would need to see the charts of all the parties involved. This may be too arduous and sometimes not possible. In such situations a prasna chart is resorted to. Regards, Neena -- In jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Neena, > > ///Litigations may be due to a variety of reasons e.g. marriage and > divorce, or property matters, intellectual property matters, criminal > matters etc./// > > Absolutely! Therefore 6th from any house needs to be considered, > although I wouldn't necessarily assign criminal matters to 6th. In my > opinion 6th is a house of disputes rather than criminal matters. > > Let's look at Deepak's chart for a moment. At the time when the > litigation (for plagiarism) was filed, he was running dasa of > JU-MA-VE...As we know, plagiarism applies to published (literary) works > and, if I'm not mistaken, 9th house governs publishing... > > Dasa lord Jupiter, owning 6th from 9th, is conjunct bhukti lord Mars in > 9th whilst 9th lord Venus (P/D lord) occupies 10th in conjunction with > Ketu. > > Also, as I said in an earlier mail, lagna lord in 6th house denotes one > who may have to deal with enemies throughout their life. I've even had > people tell me, much to my surprise, that they hate Chopra...and I'm > quite sure he's never done anything to them (personally) to justify > such strong dislike...but many people do seem to feel like that? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Dear Mrs. Wendy,  Dasha of the 6th lord or the dasha of a planet placed in 6th house (preferably a malefic in 6th house) is the peirod of winning court cases. Often, it is the reason, the politicians who have Rahu in 6th favour them in their political life.... they involve all kind of court cases...  Regards, C.S. Ravindramani  PS: I am not able to post a examble chart readily since I am away where I dont have my data with me.  =======================    Dear Manoj, Balaji, Anshoom and All, This discussion has presented me with a bit of a problem :-( I divorced my first husband (on grounds of adultery) many long years ago...probably around 30 yrs now, I think? I tried yesterday to lay my hands on the documents...all important documents (birth certificates etc, etc) I've stored safely in one folder SOMEWHERE? Problem is I seem to have stored them so safely I can't find them...what a headache! The case did involve custody of the children etc.. It was during Saturn dasa (lagnesh Saturn in 6th) but I have no idea of antar or pratyantar dasas. I went through every storage box yesterday...there are many! Now there's only one last place I can look, but I've ran out of energy, I'm afraid...will continue the search as soon as I feel able. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 -- Dear Wendy, As usual you have been able to see the connection , where someone like me would not have been able to. Thanks for pointing this out to me. Astrology can be so complicated that only a seasoned astrologer can look for these clues. 2nd and 11th lord Jupiter in the 9th, I would have said is a good placement for finances. Litigation never would have crossed my mind. Shows that there is always more to learn. Regards, Neena - In jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Neena, > > ///As you have mentioned that his legal cases took place in JU-MA-VE > dasa, this time period is not related to the 6th house. I cannot find the > reasons for litigation to take place in this dasa/// > > Have you forgotten that bhukti lord Mars is karaka for 6th? Mars is > conjunct dasa lord Jupiter who owns 6th from 9th (publishing) > > Also bear in mind the date the litigation was settled (out of > court)...15th Jan 1998 during dasa of JU-RA-SA. Look also at the transits > for these two dates i.e. notice of litigation and settlement of same. > > Both seem quite clear to me? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " neenako " <neena-k > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:33 AM > Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation > > > - > Dear Wendy, > > Just had a quick look at Deepak Chopra's chart. > > Saturn the lagna lord is in the 6th. Being the lagna lord it has to > enhance the indications of the 6th at the same time because of the > inherent nature of Saturn being malefic it will destroy the enemies. That > could possibly be the indication of increasing number of enemies at the > same time giving victory over the enemies. > > As you have mentioned that his legal cases took place in JU-MA-VE dasa, > this time period is not related to the 6th house. I cannot find the > reasons for litigation to take place in this dasa , unless the nakshtra > positions indicate the same (I have not checked those). > > But Saturn and Moon are forming a formidable vipreet raj yoga. > > Just straying a little off the topic-- Moon in the 8th house is said to > give BALARISHTA. Do you know if Deepak Chopra's childhood had any such > influences? > > Coming back to the question of the outcome of litigation, I still feel > that a prasna chart would give a fairly accurate answer to this. > Litigation would involve more than one party, to find out who will be > successful one would need to see the charts of all the parties involved. > This may be too arduous and sometimes not possible. In such situations a > prasna chart is resorted to. > > Regards, > Neena > > -- In jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Neena, > > > > ///Litigations may be due to a variety of reasons e.g. marriage and > > divorce, or property matters, intellectual property matters, criminal > > matters etc./// > > > > Absolutely! Therefore 6th from any house needs to be considered, > > although I wouldn't necessarily assign criminal matters to 6th. In my > > opinion 6th is a house of disputes rather than criminal matters. > > > > Let's look at Deepak's chart for a moment. At the time when the > > litigation (for plagiarism) was filed, he was running dasa of > > JU-MA-VE...As we know, plagiarism applies to published (literary) works > > and, if I'm not mistaken, 9th house governs publishing... > > > > Dasa lord Jupiter, owning 6th from 9th, is conjunct bhukti lord Mars in > > 9th whilst 9th lord Venus (P/D lord) occupies 10th in conjunction with > > Ketu. > > > > Also, as I said in an earlier mail, lagna lord in 6th house denotes one > > who may have to deal with enemies throughout their life. I've even had > > people tell me, much to my surprise, that they hate Chopra...and I'm > > quite sure he's never done anything to them (personally) to justify > > such strong dislike...but many people do seem to feel like that? > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ___ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 - Sh. Ravindramani ji, Maybe that is why in Chopra's chart, the cases were solved in the antar and pratyantra of Ra and SA. -- In jyotish-vidya , Ravindramani CS <ravindramani wrote: > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > Dasha of the 6th lord or the dasha of a planet placed in 6th house > (preferably a malefic in 6th house) is the peirod of winning court cases. > Often, it is the reason, the politicians who have Rahu in 6th favour them in > their political life.... they involve all kind of court cases... > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > PS: I am not able to post a examble chart readily since I am away where I > dont have my data with me. > > ======================= > > > > Dear Manoj, Balaji, Anshoom and All, > > This discussion has presented me with a bit of a problem :-( > > I divorced my first husband (on grounds of adultery) many long years > ago...probably around 30 yrs now, I think? I tried yesterday to lay my > hands on the documents...all important documents (birth certificates etc, > etc) I've stored safely in one folder SOMEWHERE? Problem is I seem to > have stored them so safely I can't find them...what a headache! > > The case did involve custody of the children etc.. It was during Saturn > dasa (lagnesh Saturn in 6th) but I have no idea of antar or pratyantar > dasas. I went through every storage box yesterday...there are many! Now > there's only one last place I can look, but I've ran out of energy, I'm > afraid...will continue the search as soon as I feel able. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Dear Ravindramani, Indeed! Also, of course, 6th house, whilst dealing with enemies, competitors and rivals, is a prominent house for sportsmen who constantly face competitors. Their ability to rise above their competitors (competitive power) is dependant on this house...same, as you say, for politicians...they need that edge against their rivals in order to succeed :-) Roger Federer, who rose to great heights in tennis during dasa of 6th lord Saturn, is a prime example of this. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Ravindramani CS " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, June 28, 2009 1:58 PM Re: Re: Predicting the outcome of litigation Dear Mrs. Wendy, Dasha of the 6th lord or the dasha of a planet placed in 6th house (preferably a malefic in 6th house) is the peirod of winning court cases. Often, it is the reason, the politicians who have Rahu in 6th favour them in their political life.... they involve all kind of court cases... Regards, C.S. Ravindramani PS: I am not able to post a examble chart readily since I am away where I dont have my data with me. ======================= Dear Manoj, Balaji, Anshoom and All, This discussion has presented me with a bit of a problem :-( I divorced my first husband (on grounds of adultery) many long years ago...probably around 30 yrs now, I think? I tried yesterday to lay my hands on the documents...all important documents (birth certificates etc, etc) I've stored safely in one folder SOMEWHERE? Problem is I seem to have stored them so safely I can't find them...what a headache! The case did involve custody of the children etc.. It was during Saturn dasa (lagnesh Saturn in 6th) but I have no idea of antar or pratyantar dasas. I went through every storage box yesterday...there are many! Now there's only one last place I can look, but I've ran out of energy, I'm afraid...will continue the search as soon as I feel able. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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