Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Dear Navneet, Your marriage will be taking place with a girl known to you.Your talking to girls due to the presence of venus and mars in 6th is always viewed differently,Jupiter in 3rd too is retrograde making communications fail as lagna lord.Necessary to have the chart analysed as navamsa indicates problems with spouse/married life.Go slow and choose girl of your wish. vrkrishnan --- On Sat, 7/4/09, navneetusa <navneetusa wrote: navneetusa <navneetusa My marraige Problemjyotish-vidya Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 2:40 PM Hi, dear astro's, i need some help, my dob 3rd nov 1978 08.12AM new Delhi. I would like to know about my marriage, when can I get married? nothing seems to work. I talk to girls but it doesn't get anywhere and the rishta fails. please give me suggestions about my marriage problem. thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Mr Navneet, Marriage will be around nov 2010.Both visionaries are weak in chart.venus karak for marriage is retrograde. Saturn in 2nd aspecting sun and venus in 4th,house of comforts and also 7th from moon sign(Taurus) Probability for marriage b4 end of ketu dasa(even very soon) is also not denied.problem however appears to be as Vak/Kutumba sthan influnced by saturn bring problems in relationship.Necessary for u to check horoscope as well good time for the event to take place. vrkrishnan--- On Sun, 7/5/09, navneetusa <navneetusa wrote: navneetusa <navneetusa Re: My marraige Problemjyotish-vidya Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 8:48 AM Thank you for u'r reply respected vrkrishnan, but you still didn't tell me when would i be gettin married this year or next year ? I seem to talk to girls and they are ready to marry me no problem, but it just doesn't happen, obstacles break the relationship and its just not about getin along with the girl. I have no problem there but diff obstacles arise and they break the relationship. -navneetjyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Navneet,> Your marriage will be taking place with a girl known to you.Your talking to girls due to the presence of venus and mars in 6th is always viewed differently, Jupiter in 3rd too is retrograde making communications fail as lagna lord.Necessary to have the chart analysed as navamsa indicates problems with spouse/married life.Go slow and choose girl of your wish.> vrkrishnan> > > > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> wrote:> > > navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...>> My marraige Problem> jyotish-vidya> Saturday, July 4, 2009, 2:40 PM> > > > > > > > > Hi, dear astro's, i need some help, my dob 3rd nov 1978 08.12AM new Delhi. I would like to know about my marriage, when can I get married? nothing seems to work. I talk to girls but it doesn't get anywhere and the rishta fails. please give me suggestions about my marriage problem. thank you> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Dear Sir, first of all i'm not kark lagan, i'm vrishik lagan with moon in lagan as well, my details again, 3 november 1978 new delhi INDIA at 8.12 AM ... please make my chart again because wot you just said it not rite, because i have mars , merc, moon in vrishik lagan. thank you -navneet jyotish-vidya , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Mr Navneet, > Marriage will be around nov 2010.Both visionaries are weak in chart.venus karak for marriage is retrograde. > Saturn in 2nd aspecting sun and venus in 4th,house of comforts and also 7th from moon sign(Taurus) > Probability for marriage b4 end of ketu dasa(even very soon) is also not denied.problem however appears to be as Vak/Kutumba sthan influnced by saturn bring problems in relationship.Necessary for u to check horoscope as well good time for the event to take place. > vrkrishnan > > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, navneetusa <navneetusa wrote: > > > navneetusa <navneetusa > Re: My marraige Problem > jyotish-vidya > Sunday, July 5, 2009, 8:48 AM > > Thank you for u'r reply respected vrkrishnan, but you still didn't tell me when would i be gettin married this year or next year ? I seem to talk to girls and they are ready to marry me no problem, but it just doesn't happen, obstacles break the relationship and its just not about getin along with the girl. I have no problem there but diff obstacles arise and they break the relationship. -navneet > > jyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Navneet, > > Your marriage will be taking place with a girl known to you.Your talking to girls due to the presence of venus and mars in 6th is always viewed differently, Jupiter in 3rd too is retrograde making communications fail as lagna lord.Necessary to have the chart analysed as navamsa indicates problems with spouse/married life.Go slow and choose girl of your wish. > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> > > My marraige Problem > > jyotish-vidya > > Saturday, July 4, 2009, 2:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, dear astro's, i need some help, my dob 3rd nov 1978 08.12AM new Delhi. I would like to know about my marriage, when can I get married? nothing seems to work. I talk to girls but it doesn't get anywhere and the rishta fails. please give me suggestions about my marriage problem. thank you > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Timing of the marriage is viewde to ascertained with gochara/transit chart imposed on natal chart.All you siad about position of planets do not make any change in your chart>lagna is same.moon is thhe same.other planets too. vrkrishnan--- On Sun, 7/5/09, navneetusa <navneetusa wrote: navneetusa <navneetusa Re: My marraige Problemjyotish-vidya Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:27 PM Dear Sir, first of all i'm not kark lagan, i'm vrishik lagan with moon in lagan as well, my details again, 3 november 1978 new delhi INDIA at 8.12 AM ... please make my chart again because wot you just said it not rite, because i have mars , merc, moon in vrishik lagan. thank you -navneetjyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote:>> Mr Navneet,> Marriage will be around nov 2010.Both visionaries are weak in chart.venus karak for marriage is retrograde.> Saturn in 2nd aspecting sun and venus in 4th,house of comforts and also 7th from moon sign(Taurus)> Probability for marriage b4 end of ketu dasa(even very soon) is also not denied.problem however appears to be as Vak/Kutumba sthan influnced by saturn bring problems in relationship. Necessary for u to check horoscope as well good time for the event to take place.> vrkrishnan> > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> wrote:> > > navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...>> Re: My marraige Problem> jyotish-vidya> Sunday, July 5, 2009, 8:48 AM> > > > > > > > > Thank you for u'r reply respected vrkrishnan, but you still didn't tell me when would i be gettin married this year or next year ? I seem to talk to girls and they are ready to marry me no problem, but it just doesn't happen, obstacles break the relationship and its just not about getin along with the girl. I have no problem there but diff obstacles arise and they break the relationship. -navneet> > jyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:> >> > Dear Navneet,> > Your marriage will be taking place with a girl known to you.Your talking to girls due to the presence of venus and mars in 6th is always viewed differently, Jupiter in 3rd too is retrograde making communications fail as lagna lord.Necessary to have the chart analysed as navamsa indicates problems with spouse/married life.Go slow and choose girl of your wish.> > vrkrishnan> > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...>> > My marraige Problem> > jyotish-vidya@ . com> > Saturday, July 4, 2009, 2:40 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, dear astro's, i need some help, my dob 3rd nov 1978 08.12AM new Delhi. I would like to know about my marriage, when can I get married? nothing seems to work. I talk to girls but it doesn't get anywhere and the rishta fails. please give me suggestions about my marriage problem. thank you> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Navneet,I think you interpreted Mr. Krishnan's email incorrectly. Karak is not a lagana but merely means "prime facilitator". Mr. Krishnan has righly indicated that Venus is indeed the Karak for marriage (if seeking female), else (if seeking male) Jupiter can become the karak for marriage.Though I am not versed with gochara and nakashtra study (yet) but I do understand that their transits and positions are instruemental in determining the timing of the marriage. Natal chart and transits can also give some indications to this affect.Kind regards,Anshoomnavneetusa <navneetusajyotish-vidya Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 1:58:14 PM Re: My marraige Problem u'r just upset coz u made my chart wrong, thats all, jyotish is not for every1, dont worry, some1 else will help me who does know how to make a chart the right way. jyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Timing of the marriage is viewde to ascertained with gochara/transit chart imposed on natal chart.All you siad about position of planets do not make any change in your chart>lagna is same.moon is thhe same.other planets too. > vrkrishnan > > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> wrote: > > > navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> > Re: My marraige Problem > jyotish-vidya > Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:27 PM > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, first of all i'm not kark lagan, i'm vrishik lagan with moon in lagan as well, my details again, 3 november 1978 new delhi INDIA at 8.12 AM ... please make my chart again because wot you just said it not rite, because i have mars , merc, moon in vrishik lagan. thank you -navneet > > jyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Mr Navneet, > > Marriage will be around nov 2010.Both visionaries are weak in chart.venus karak for marriage is retrograde. > > Saturn in 2nd aspecting sun and venus in 4th,house of comforts and also 7th from moon sign(Taurus) > > Probability for marriage b4 end of ketu dasa(even very soon) is also not denied.problem however appears to be as Vak/Kutumba sthan influnced by saturn bring problems in relationship. Necessary for u to check horoscope as well good time for the event to take place. > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> > > Re: My marraige Problem > > jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, July 5, 2009, 8:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for u'r reply respected vrkrishnan, but you still didn't tell me when would i be gettin married this year or next year ? I seem to talk to girls and they are ready to marry me no problem, but it just doesn't happen, obstacles break the relationship and its just not about getin along with the girl. I have no problem there but diff obstacles arise and they break the relationship. -navneet > > > > jyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Navneet, > > > Your marriage will be taking place with a girl known to you.Your talking to girls due to the presence of venus and mars in 6th is always viewed differently, Jupiter in 3rd too is retrograde making communications fail as lagna lord.Necessary to have the chart analysed as navamsa indicates problems with spouse/married life.Go slow and choose girl of your wish. > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> > > > My marraige Problem > > > jyotish-vidya > > > Saturday, July 4, 2009, 2:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, dear astro's, i need some help, my dob 3rd nov 1978 08.12AM new Delhi. I would like to know about my marriage, when can I get married? nothing seems to work. I talk to girls but it doesn't get anywhere and the rishta fails. please give me suggestions about my marriage problem. thank you > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 hi Anshoom thanx for being nice and replying to my query. i do understand that transits are important, but read wot krishnan wrote, he wrote i have shani ji in 2nd house and Venus and sun in my 4th house which is completely wrong, why coz i do not have kark (cancer asc) as lagna, my lagna is vrishik i have no clue where he got (cancer) as lagna. to get the prediction right we must first study the natal chart correctly, i dont know much about it, and i had heard a few good things about this jyotish vidya discussion group, but !!! anyhow thanx Anshoom , take care jyotish-vidya , Anshoom Jain <anshoom wrote: > > Navneet, > > I think you interpreted Mr. Krishnan's email incorrectly. Karak is not a lagana but merely means " prime facilitator " . Mr. Krishnan has righly indicated that Venus is indeed the Karak for marriage (if seeking female), else (if seeking male) Jupiter can become the karak for marriage. > > Though I am not versed with gochara and nakashtra study (yet) but I do understand that their transits and positions are instruemental in determining the timing of the marriage. Natal chart and transits can also give some indications to this affect. > > Kind regards, > Anshoom > > > > > ________________________________ > navneetusa <navneetusa > jyotish-vidya > Sunday, July 5, 2009 1:58:14 PM > Re: My marraige Problem > > > > > > u'r just upset coz u made my chart wrong, thats all, jyotish is not for every1, dont worry, some1 else will help me who does know how to make a chart the right way. > jyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Timing of the marriage is viewde to ascertained with gochara/transit chart imposed on natal chart.All you siad about position of planets do not make any change in your chart>lagna is same.moon is thhe same.other planets too. > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> > > Re: My marraige Problem > > jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, first of all i'm not kark lagan, i'm vrishik lagan with moon in lagan as well, my details again, 3 november 1978 new delhi INDIA at 8.12 AM ... please make my chart again because wot you just said it not rite, because i have mars , merc, moon in vrishik lagan. thank you -navneet > > > > jyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Mr Navneet, > > > Marriage will be around nov 2010.Both visionaries are weak in chart.venus karak for marriage is retrograde. > > > Saturn in 2nd aspecting sun and venus in 4th,house of comforts and also 7th from moon sign(Taurus) > > > Probability for marriage b4 end of ketu dasa(even very soon) is also not denied.problem however appears to be as Vak/Kutumba sthan influnced by saturn bring problems in relationship. Necessary for u to check horoscope as well good time for the event to take place. > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> > > > Re: My marraige Problem > > > jyotish-vidya > > > Sunday, July 5, 2009, 8:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for u'r reply respected vrkrishnan, but you still didn't tell me when would i be gettin married this year or next year ? I seem to talk to girls and they are ready to marry me no problem, but it just doesn't happen, obstacles break the relationship and its just not about getin along with the girl. I have no problem there but diff obstacles arise and they break the relationship. -navneet > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Navneet, > > > > Your marriage will be taking place with a girl known to you.Your talking to girls due to the presence of venus and mars in 6th is always viewed differently, Jupiter in 3rd too is retrograde making communications fail as lagna lord.Necessary to have the chart analysed as navamsa indicates problems with spouse/married life.Go slow and choose girl of your wish. > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > navneetusa <navneetusa@ ...> > > > > My marraige Problem > > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > Saturday, July 4, 2009, 2:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, dear astro's, i need some help, my dob 3rd nov 1978 08.12AM new Delhi. I would like to know about my marriage, when can I get married? nothing seems to work. I talk to girls but it doesn't get anywhere and the rishta fails. please give me suggestions about my marriage problem. thank you > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Navneet, Since personal readings are not (generally) given on this group, Krishnan's response to your query was a favour to you. You responded (to this favour) with rudeness. I've put you on moderation and unless you demonstrate a change in attitude you will be removed from the group permanently. Thank You, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " navneetusa " <navneetusa <jyotish-vidya > Monday, July 06, 2009 5:07 AM Re: My marraige Problem hi Anshoom thanx for being nice and replying to my query. i do understand that transits are important, but read wot krishnan wrote, he wrote i have shani ji in 2nd house and Venus and sun in my 4th house which is completely wrong, why coz i do not have kark (cancer asc) as lagna, my lagna is vrishik i have no clue where he got (cancer) as lagna. to get the prediction right we must first study the natal chart correctly, i dont know much about it, and i had heard a few good things about this jyotish vidya discussion group, but !!! anyhow thanx Anshoom , take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Dear Mrs. Wendy, I think there seems to be some gap between the participants on this thread. Navneet wrote: >>>my lagna is vrishik i have no clue where he got (cancer) as lagna. to get the prediction right we must first study the natal chart correctly, i dont know much about it, and i had heard a few good things about this jyotish vidya discussion group, but !!! anyhow thanx Anshoom , take care>>> >>>Dear Sir, first of all i'm not kark lagan, i'm vrishik lagan with moon in lagan as well, my details again, 3 november 1978 new delhi INDIA at 8.12 AM ... please make my chart again because wot you just said it not rite, because i have mars , merc, moon in vrishik lagan. thank you –navneet>>> C.S. Ravindramani writes: As per the data given by Navneet, i.e. 3rd November 1978, New Delhi, India, at 8.12 A.M., I get, Scorpio rising with 6:44 and Moon in Scorpio with 16:14 i.e. Moon is in lagna. May I request any other members to check this please? All along, it is seems to me that the primarily Navneet raises this issue only. Kindly look into this aspect please. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. PS: My concern is very simple that no one should complain about our forum that in Jyotish Vidya members are not able to cast the chart properly. jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Navneet, > > Since personal readings are not (generally) given on this group, > Krishnan's response to your query was a favour to you. You responded (to > this favour) with rudeness. > > I've put you on moderation and unless you demonstrate a change in > attitude you will be removed from the group permanently. > > Thank You, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Dear Ravindramani, Yes. I get the same results. Here are the details: 3rd November 1978, New Delhi, India, at 8.12 A.M. Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa Lagna 6 Sc 44' 10.48" Anu 2 Sc ViSun - MK 16 Li 46' 15.34" Swat 4 Li PiMoon - PiK 16 Sc 14' 37.47" Anu 4 Sc Sc Regards, -Manoj ravindramani <ravindramanijyotish-vidya Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 9:47:59 PM Re: My marraige Problem Dear Mrs. Wendy,I think there seems to be some gap between the participants on this thread. Navneet wrote:>>>my lagna is vrishik i have no clue where he got (cancer) as lagna. to get the prediction right we must first study the natal chart correctly, i dont know much about it, and i had heard a few good things about this jyotish vidya discussion group, but !!! anyhow thanx Anshoom , take care>>>>>>Dear Sir, first of all i'm not kark lagan, i'm vrishik lagan with moon in lagan as well, my details again, 3 november 1978 new delhi INDIA at 8.12 AM ... please make my chart again because wot you just said it not rite, because i have mars , merc, moon in vrishik lagan. thank you –navneet>>>C.S. Ravindramani writes:As per the data given by Navneet, i.e. 3rd November 1978, New Delhi, India, at 8.12 A.M., I get, Scorpio rising with 6:44 and Moon in Scorpio with 16:14 i.e. Moon is in lagna. May I request any other members to check this please?All along, it is seems to me that the primarily Navneet raises this issue only. Kindly look into this aspect please. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. PS: My concern is very simple that no one should complain about our forum that in Jyotish Vidya members are not able to cast the chart properly. jyotish-vidya, "Mrs. Wendy" <jyotishvidya@ ...> wrote:>> Navneet,> > Since personal readings are not (generally) given on this group, > Krishnan's response to your query was a favour to you. You responded (to > this favour) with rudeness.> > I've put you on moderation and unless you demonstrate a change in > attitude you will be removed from the group permanently.> > Thank You,> Mrs. Wendy> http://JyotishVidya.com> ____________ _________ _________ _______ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Dear Ravindramani, ///PS: My concern is very simple that no one should complain about our forum that in Jyotish Vidya members are not able to cast the chart properly./// You're absolutely correct! There is never any excuse whatsoever for rudeness. Krishnan is a senior member, and, like everyone else, should be approached with politeness. If there has been a mistake in casting the chart this should be questioned politely and respectfully. It's Navneet's rudeness that I have an issue with. I have (just now) cast the chart, and, like you, have Scorpio rising 06:44:12. A quick glance at the horoscope shows F/M Saturn aspecting both dasa lord Venus and 7th house...indicating delays, setbacks, disappointments etc.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Monday, July 06, 2009 12:47 PM Re: My marraige Problem Dear Mrs. Wendy, I think there seems to be some gap between the participants on this thread. Navneet wrote: >>>my lagna is vrishik i have no clue where he got (cancer) as lagna. to >>>get the prediction right we must first study the natal chart >>>correctly, i dont know much about it, and i had heard a few good >>>things about this jyotish vidya discussion group, but !!! anyhow thanx >>>Anshoom , take care>>> >>>Dear Sir, first of all i'm not kark lagan, i'm vrishik lagan with moon >>>in lagan as well, my details again, 3 november 1978 new delhi INDIA at >>>8.12 AM ... please make my chart again because wot you just said it >>>not rite, because i have mars , merc, moon in vrishik lagan. thank >>>you -navneet>>> C.S. Ravindramani writes: As per the data given by Navneet, i.e. 3rd November 1978, New Delhi, India, at 8.12 A.M., I get, Scorpio rising with 6:44 and Moon in Scorpio with 16:14 i.e. Moon is in lagna. May I request any other members to check this please? All along, it is seems to me that the primarily Navneet raises this issue only. Kindly look into this aspect please. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. PS: My concern is very simple that no one should complain about our forum that in Jyotish Vidya members are not able to cast the chart properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Dear Mrs Wendy, I completely agree with you. Even a casual visitor with little knowledge of Jyotish should be able to figure out Mr.Krishnan's calibre by reading even one of his postings. Such incidents are unfortunate. Regards, -Manoj Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyajyotish-vidya Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 10:05:58 PMRe: Re: My marraige Problem Dear Ravindramani,///PS: My concern is very simple that no one should complain about our forum that in Jyotish Vidya members are not able to cast the chart properly.///You're absolutely correct! There is never any excuse whatsoever for rudeness. Krishnan is a senior member, and, like everyone else, should be approached with politeness. If there has been a mistake in casting the chart this should be questioned politely and respectfully. It's Navneet's rudeness that I have an issue with.I have (just now) cast the chart, and, like you, have Scorpio rising 06:44:12. A quick glance at the horoscope shows F/M Saturn aspecting both dasa lord Venus and 7th house...indicating delays, setbacks, disappointments etc..Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com____________ _________ _________ _______- "ravindramani" <ravindramani@ gmail.com><jyotish-vidya>Monday, July 06, 2009 12:47 PM Re: My marraige ProblemDear Mrs. Wendy,I think there seems to be some gap between the participants on this thread.Navneet wrote:>>>my lagna is vrishik i have no clue where he got (cancer) as lagna. to >>>get the prediction right we must first study the natal chart >>>correctly, i dont know much about it, and i had heard a few good >>>things about this jyotish vidya discussion group, but !!! anyhow thanx >>>Anshoom , take care>>>>>>Dear Sir, first of all i'm not kark lagan, i'm vrishik lagan with moon >>>in lagan as well, my details again, 3 november 1978 new delhi INDIA at >>>8.12 AM ... please make my chart again because wot you just said it >>>not rite, because i have mars , merc, moon in vrishik lagan. thank >>>you -navneet>>>C.S. Ravindramani writes:As per the data given by Navneet, i.e. 3rd November 1978, New Delhi, India, at 8.12 A.M., I get, Scorpio rising with 6:44 and Moon in Scorpio with 16:14 i.e. Moon is in lagna. May I request any other members to check this please?All along, it is seems to me that the primarily Navneet raises this issue only. Kindly look into this aspect please.Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.PS: My concern is very simple that no one should complain about our forum that in Jyotish Vidya members are not able to cast the chart properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Yes. Mrs. Wendy, I am in total agreement with you that, Mr. Krishnan, should have been approached with politeness for the error in casting the chart. No issues whatsoever with regard to that. I know his ability. Do not assume that I am supporting his attitude (Navneet's). Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Ravindramani, > > ///PS: My concern is very simple that no one should complain about our > forum that in Jyotish Vidya members are not able to cast the chart > properly./// > > You're absolutely correct! There is never any excuse whatsoever for > rudeness. Krishnan is a senior member, and, like everyone else, should be > approached with politeness. If there has been a mistake in casting the > chart this should be questioned politely and respectfully. It's Navneet's > rudeness that I have an issue with. > > I have (just now) cast the chart, and, like you, have Scorpio rising > 06:44:12. A quick glance at the horoscope shows F/M Saturn aspecting both > dasa lord Venus and 7th house...indicating delays, setbacks, > disappointments etc.. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Dear Navneet, I think your waiting for marriage is over now. It is a matter of Saturn's transit over Virgo. That would see you get married soon. At any rate, before October 2010, you may get married. I just see the trends. Saturn has to decide. The planetary configurations suggest, if any thing goes wrong in your relationship (with your partner) you must have taken the first step towards that. There is a favourable combination in your chart. Make use of it. That takes care of number of things in your life. From the Lagna and Lagna Lord the 2nd and 5th Lord is exalted in the 9th house. Being Mercury the karaka for speech is in the lagna, it gets strengthened further. But Rahu is dispositing your Mercury which moves to your lagna, that is slightly blemishing the above said so far as the area of speech is concerned. Be careful in your speech and communication. Kindly develop the habit of patience. You will be heard in the appropriate moment. Most of your chart is controlled by Saturn. Pray Saturn on Saturdays. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Thank you Ravindramani ji, this is exactly wot i was looking for just a normal simple reading and this shows your knowledge of astrology is very good. I hope every1 can learn something from Ravindramani. Thank you once again. -navneet jyotish-vidya , " ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote: > > Dear Navneet, > > I think your waiting for marriage is over now. It is a matter of Saturn's transit over Virgo. That would see you get married soon. At any rate, before October 2010, you may get married. I just see the trends. Saturn has to decide. > > The planetary configurations suggest, if any thing goes wrong in your relationship (with your partner) you must have taken the first step towards that. > > There is a favourable combination in your chart. Make use of it. That takes care of number of things in your life. From the Lagna and Lagna Lord the 2nd and 5th Lord is exalted in the 9th house. Being Mercury the karaka for speech is in the lagna, it gets strengthened further. But Rahu is dispositing your Mercury which moves to your lagna, that is slightly blemishing the above said so far as the area of speech is concerned. Be careful in your speech and communication. > Kindly develop the habit of patience. You will be heard in the appropriate moment. Most of your chart is controlled by Saturn. Pray Saturn on Saturdays. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Dear Ravindramani, ///From the Lagna and Lagna Lord the 2nd and 5th Lord is exalted in the 9th house./// Yes, Jupiter is in exaltation; however his dispositor (Moon) is debilitated in lagna whilst both MO/JU occupy nakshatra of F/M Saturn. ///Being Mercury the karaka for speech is in the lagna, it gets strengthened further./// Mercury in enemies sign also occupies nakshatra of F/M Saturn. ///But Rahu is dispositing your Mercury which moves to your lagna, that is slightly blemishing the above said so far as the area of speech is concerned./// Consider Mercury, significator of speech, dispositing Rahu, whilst Ketu occupies 5th house... Ketu in 5th can suggest a somewhat unconventional intellectual outlook etc., whilst Mercury's connection with Rahu...well I'll leave that for others to judge as I admit to being somewhat displeased with the native's outright rudeness. I will say though that this chart certainly does reflect (IMO) what has been witnessed here. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Monday, July 06, 2009 3:07 PM Re: My marraige Problem Dear Navneet, I think your waiting for marriage is over now. It is a matter of Saturn's transit over Virgo. That would see you get married soon. At any rate, before October 2010, you may get married. I just see the trends. Saturn has to decide. The planetary configurations suggest, if any thing goes wrong in your relationship (with your partner) you must have taken the first step towards that. There is a favourable combination in your chart. Make use of it. That takes care of number of things in your life. From the Lagna and Lagna Lord the 2nd and 5th Lord is exalted in the 9th house. Being Mercury the karaka for speech is in the lagna, it gets strengthened further. But Rahu is dispositing your Mercury which moves to your lagna, that is slightly blemishing the above said so far as the area of speech is concerned. Be careful in your speech and communication. Kindly develop the habit of patience. You will be heard in the appropriate moment. Most of your chart is controlled by Saturn. Pray Saturn on Saturdays. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Dear Mrs. Wendy, Thanks for the elucidation and the threadbare analysis. You would kindly appreciate the fact that the person (Navneet) may not be having this level of proficiency in astrology; keeping this fact in mind, I simply wrote " Most of your chart is controlled by Saturn " . The functional malefic Saturn takes control of his 4th house of his mind and action, the 10th house. I counseled him to practice patience. I mentioned clearly in my message Rahu disposits Mercury. I advised him to be careful in his speech and communication. The functional malefic Saturn and the Mercury influences the 7th house of marriage, relationship and partners; I cautioned and asked him to be responsible, by writing " if any thing goes wrong in your relationship (with your partner) you must have taken the first step towards that " . I noted the fact that the lagna falls in the constellation of Saturn. I noted the fact the Mars, Moon, Mercury & Jupiter occupies the constellation of Saturn. I counseled him " most of your chart is controlled by Saturn, pray Saturn on Saturdays " , so that right wisdom prevails. I understand very clearly, Ketu in 5th gives unconventional intellectual trait. I am the best person to experience that trait. I have Ketu in 5th House . This ketu is asepcted by Jupiter from 9th in the instant case. I counseled him " you would be heard in most appropriate time " , implying that he should behave as a responsible person, he should keep patience and careful in his speech and communication. This is what I felt the roll of Jupiter in this chart from 9th house covering lagna, lagna lord, Moon, the Mercury. Jupiter is " Ganga Jal " - the purity personified. Whatever way it seems that it is polluted, its natural benefic influence finally prevails, and this is what I was taught. From my inner hearts of hearts, I felt, this person's cry or call was not heard in right perspective. I intervened. I admit this. I don't know this man (Navneet) who he is? But I know Mr. Krishnan and I Know Mrs. Wendy. But my intention was not to lower their dignity in any way. There could be some karma from my side to be liquidated towards this Navneet. I had to help him. I did that. I had to be a witness as per the teachings of my Guru Ramana. But, my Saturn and Mars do not allow me to keep quite. In the circumstances, as an astrologer, whatever I had to do, I did that here. If you feel I offended you or Krishnan in this process, I apologize. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. PS: Yes. Moon is debilitated in Lagna in Scorpio. But Lagna Lord Mars sits in his own house. Scorpio is Lagna. Mars owns Scorpio. Lagna is Kendra. Mars conjuncts Moon in Kendra. I timed his marriage according to instructions of Jaimini and Mandook Dasha, I do not wish to go into the technical aspects of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Dear Ravindramani, ///From my inner hearts of hearts, I felt, this person's cry or call was not heard in right perspective. I intervened. I admit this./// No finger is pointing at you at all. Like you, I simply took the opportunity to connect the incident to its astrological cause. Members are always free to comment on whatever chart they wish. However it would be difficult to misinterpret the following comment from Navneet. Navneet wrote: *u'r just upset coz u made my chart wrong, thats all, jyotish is not for every1, dont worry, some1 else will help me who does know how to make a chart the right way.* This disrespectful comment, of course, was directed at Krishnan who also responded to his cry for help. ///This ketu is asepcted by Jupiter from 9th in the instant case./// Indeed, you're correct, 5th house (holding Ketu) is aspected by Jupiter. I have banned this member as, after reprimanding him for his rudeness, he still felt it necessary to make another sarcastic remark... Rudeness is not acceptable and this is clearly stated in the group welcome message. So that information was there for him to read and my warning was there for him to take heed of. He chose not to and was banned from this group. I do agree with his remark about you. This is something I have recognised from the beginning :-) However Navneet's (last) snide remark was nothing more than a deliberate insult to others...namely Krishnan. I cannot allow that to happen and do nothing. Regarding Mars in lagna, I do believe this is something that needs to be considered very carefully in regards to his conjunction with other planets. Yes Mars is lagna lord, and yes, Mars contributes to one neechbhanga point. But please let's consider his total influence in regards to 9th lord Moon in particular. Mars moolatrikona is 6th dusthana bhava and this influence (along with Saturn's) needs to be considered, My focus on this chart, due to the situation at hand, was primarily on the significators for speech. I maintain that both 2nd lord's dispositor and Mercury are not well positioned in lagna...and this we saw clear evidence of. Those who are polite and respectful in their speech will have astrological support for this. Those who are impolite and disrespectful will have this reflected in the same way. ///Thanks for the elucidation and the threadbare analysis./// Most certainly my analysis may be described as threadbare...it was never intended to be anything else. I rarely give detailed analysis anymore due to slowing down of mental/physical alertness, and most particularly not on a public forum where any error made offers an opportunity for demanding and disrespectful people to stick the (sarcastic) knife in. I have learnt the hard way that the best way to deal with unpleasantness is to avoid it in the first place :-) PS: My time on the list may be limited for the next few days as both my dogs are, at this moment, undergoing surgery and I'll probably have my hands full taking care of them...shudder shudder; another huge Vet's bill to pay off! But never mind, that's life. You can't have animals and not take care of them. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:51 AM Re: My marraige Problem Dear Mrs. Wendy, Thanks for the elucidation and the threadbare analysis. You would kindly appreciate the fact that the person (Navneet) may not be having this level of proficiency in astrology; keeping this fact in mind, I simply wrote " Most of your chart is controlled by Saturn " . The functional malefic Saturn takes control of his 4th house of his mind and action, the 10th house. I counseled him to practice patience. I mentioned clearly in my message Rahu disposits Mercury. I advised him to be careful in his speech and communication. The functional malefic Saturn and the Mercury influences the 7th house of marriage, relationship and partners; I cautioned and asked him to be responsible, by writing " if any thing goes wrong in your relationship (with your partner) you must have taken the first step towards that " . I noted the fact that the lagna falls in the constellation of Saturn. I noted the fact the Mars, Moon, Mercury & Jupiter occupies the constellation of Saturn. I counseled him " most of your chart is controlled by Saturn, pray Saturn on Saturdays " , so that right wisdom prevails. I understand very clearly, Ketu in 5th gives unconventional intellectual trait. I am the best person to experience that trait. I have Ketu in 5th House . This ketu is asepcted by Jupiter from 9th in the instant case. I counseled him " you would be heard in most appropriate time " , implying that he should behave as a responsible person, he should keep patience and careful in his speech and communication. This is what I felt the roll of Jupiter in this chart from 9th house covering lagna, lagna lord, Moon, the Mercury. Jupiter is " Ganga Jal " - the purity personified. Whatever way it seems that it is polluted, its natural benefic influence finally prevails, and this is what I was taught. From my inner hearts of hearts, I felt, this person's cry or call was not heard in right perspective. I intervened. I admit this. I don't know this man (Navneet) who he is? But I know Mr. Krishnan and I Know Mrs. Wendy. But my intention was not to lower their dignity in any way. There could be some karma from my side to be liquidated towards this Navneet. I had to help him. I did that. I had to be a witness as per the teachings of my Guru Ramana. But, my Saturn and Mars do not allow me to keep quite. In the circumstances, as an astrologer, whatever I had to do, I did that here. If you feel I offended you or Krishnan in this process, I apologize. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. PS: Yes. Moon is debilitated in Lagna in Scorpio. But Lagna Lord Mars sits in his own house. Scorpio is Lagna. Mars owns Scorpio. Lagna is Kendra. Mars conjuncts Moon in Kendra. I timed his marriage according to instructions of Jaimini and Mandook Dasha, I do not wish to go into the technical aspects of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Dear Mrs. Wendy, // u'r just upset coz u made my chart wrong, thats all, jyotish is not for every1, dont worry, some1 else will help me who does know how to make a chart the right way.*// You have taken the right step for banning this person who even after a reprimand from you, had the audacity to do this again. Members like Krishnan, Ravindramani etc. are good sincere astrologers who work hard in their duties. They cannot be, and must not be spoken with, in this manner. If a member does not like the analysis then there are other ways too of expressing same. In any case this is a voluntary duty these astrologers are doing with no palpable or tangible immediate gains in sight. So no question of disrespecting them. We much appreciate your stand. This way the dignity of these sincere astrologer members is maintained. thanks and regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Ravindramani, > > ///From my inner hearts of hearts, I felt, this person's cry or call was > not heard in right perspective. I intervened. I admit this./// > > No finger is pointing at you at all. Like you, I simply took the > opportunity to connect the incident to its astrological cause. Members > are always free to comment on whatever chart they wish. However it would > be difficult to misinterpret the following comment from Navneet. > > Navneet wrote: > *u'r just upset coz u made my chart wrong, thats all, jyotish is not for > every1, dont worry, some1 else will help me who does know how to make a > chart the right way.* > > This disrespectful comment, of course, was directed at Krishnan who also > responded to his cry for help. > > ///This ketu is asepcted by Jupiter from 9th in the instant case./// > > Indeed, you're correct, 5th house (holding Ketu) is aspected by Jupiter. > > I have banned this member as, after reprimanding him for his rudeness, he > still felt it necessary to make another sarcastic remark... > > Rudeness is not acceptable and this is clearly stated in the group > welcome message. So that information was there for him to read and my > warning was there for him to take heed of. He chose not to and was banned > from this group. > > I do agree with his remark about you. This is something I have recognised > from the beginning :-) However Navneet's (last) snide remark was nothing > more than a deliberate insult to others...namely Krishnan. I cannot allow > that to happen and do nothing. > > Regarding Mars in lagna, I do believe this is something that needs to be > considered very carefully in regards to his conjunction with other > planets. Yes Mars is lagna lord, and yes, Mars contributes to one > neechbhanga point. But please let's consider his total influence in > regards to 9th lord Moon in particular. Mars moolatrikona is 6th dusthana > bhava and this influence (along with Saturn's) needs to be considered, > > My focus on this chart, due to the situation at hand, was primarily on > the significators for speech. I maintain that both 2nd lord's dispositor > and Mercury are not well positioned in lagna...and this we saw clear > evidence of. Those who are polite and respectful in their speech will > have astrological support for this. Those who are impolite and > disrespectful will have this reflected in the same way. > > ///Thanks for the elucidation and the threadbare analysis./// > > Most certainly my analysis may be described as threadbare...it was never > intended to be anything else. I rarely give detailed analysis anymore due > to slowing down of mental/physical alertness, and most particularly not > on a public forum where any error made offers an opportunity for > demanding and disrespectful people to stick the (sarcastic) knife in. I > have learnt the hard way that the best way to deal with unpleasantness is > to avoid it in the first place :-) > > PS: My time on the list may be limited for the next few days as both my > dogs are, at this moment, undergoing surgery and I'll probably have my > hands full taking care of them...shudder shudder; another huge Vet's bill > to pay off! But never mind, that's life. You can't have animals and not > take care of them. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " ravindramani " ravindramani > jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:51 AM > Re: My marraige Problem > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > Thanks for the elucidation and the threadbare analysis. > > You would kindly appreciate the fact that the person (Navneet) may not be > having this level of proficiency in astrology; keeping this fact in mind, > I simply wrote " Most of your chart is controlled by Saturn " . The > functional malefic Saturn takes control of his 4th house of his mind and > action, the 10th house. I counseled him to practice patience. I > mentioned clearly in my message Rahu disposits Mercury. I advised him to > be careful in his speech and communication. The functional malefic > Saturn and the Mercury influences the 7th house of marriage, relationship > and partners; I cautioned and asked him to be responsible, by writing " if > any thing goes wrong in your relationship (with your partner) you must > have taken the first step towards that " . > I noted the fact that the lagna falls in the constellation of Saturn. I > noted the fact the Mars, Moon, Mercury & Jupiter occupies the > constellation of Saturn. I counseled him " most of your chart is > controlled by Saturn, pray Saturn on Saturdays " , so that right wisdom > prevails. > > I understand very clearly, Ketu in 5th gives unconventional intellectual > trait. I am the best person to experience that trait. I have Ketu in > 5th House . This ketu is asepcted by Jupiter from 9th in the instant > case. I counseled him " you would be heard in most appropriate time " , > implying that he should behave as a responsible person, he should keep > patience and careful in his speech and communication. This is what I > felt the roll of Jupiter in this chart from 9th house covering lagna, > lagna lord, Moon, the Mercury. Jupiter is " Ganga Jal " - the purity > personified. Whatever way it seems that it is polluted, its natural > benefic influence finally prevails, and this is what I was taught. > > From my inner hearts of hearts, I felt, this person's cry or call was not > heard in right perspective. I intervened. I admit this. I don't know > this man (Navneet) who he is? But I know Mr. Krishnan and I Know Mrs. > Wendy. But my intention was not to lower their dignity in any way. There > could be some karma from my side to be liquidated towards this Navneet. I > had to help him. I did that. I had to be a witness as per the teachings > of my Guru Ramana. But, my Saturn and Mars do not allow me to keep > quite. > > In the circumstances, as an astrologer, whatever I had to do, I did that > here. > > If you feel I offended you or Krishnan in this process, I apologize. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > PS: > > Yes. Moon is debilitated in Lagna in Scorpio. But Lagna Lord Mars sits > in his own house. Scorpio is Lagna. Mars owns Scorpio. Lagna is > Kendra. Mars conjuncts Moon in Kendra. > > I timed his marriage according to instructions of Jaimini and Mandook > Dasha, I do not wish to go into the technical aspects of that. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Dear Mrs Wendy and Shri Ravindramani, Iam really sorry for all this to have happened on account of my mail.What Shri Ravindramani Ji has mentioned,that we had reacted to the mail might be due to our own weakness in our palnets at that time. Appears,his intentions to learn Jyotish and his comprehension too are questionabla as the issue raised in respect of life problem.Some time our genuine efforts are mistaken and we bear as our time is precious and our minds are bent to help needy.we try to indicate as short as possible through our own experiences and the little we have learnt for group cause and purpose.if this is not understood and the people are so unhappy with their own(Navneet) we leave them to their destiny.His questioning any one in the group and his intlolerance and lack of ettiquacy and respect indicates how natives lead their personal things. Iamke humble request that in future we will be more cautious not to oblige and conclude this issue at this point please. My personal regards rto both of you.let our Guru bless all of us to take things in positive things move ahead as we know about ourselves very well I once again than Shri ravindramani and you vrkrishnan --- On Mon, 7/6/09, ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: ravindramani <ravindramani Re: My marraige Problemjyotish-vidya Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 9:51 PM Dear Mrs. Wendy, Thanks for the elucidation and the threadbare analysis. You would kindly appreciate the fact that the person (Navneet) may not be having this level of proficiency in astrology; keeping this fact in mind, I simply wrote "Most of your chart is controlled by Saturn". The functional malefic Saturn takes control of his 4th house of his mind and action, the 10th house. I counseled him to practice patience. I mentioned clearly in my message Rahu disposits Mercury. I advised him to be careful in his speech and communication. The functional malefic Saturn and the Mercury influences the 7th house of marriage, relationship and partners; I cautioned and asked him to be responsible, by writing "if any thing goes wrong in your relationship (with your partner) you must have taken the first step towards that".I noted the fact that the lagna falls in the constellation of Saturn. I noted the fact the Mars, Moon, Mercury & Jupiter occupies the constellation of Saturn. I counseled him "most of your chart is controlled by Saturn, pray Saturn on Saturdays", so that right wisdom prevails. I understand very clearly, Ketu in 5th gives unconventional intellectual trait. I am the best person to experience that trait. I have Ketu in 5th House . This ketu is asepcted by Jupiter from 9th in the instant case. I counseled him "you would be heard in most appropriate time", implying that he should behave as a responsible person, he should keep patience and careful in his speech and communication. This is what I felt the roll of Jupiter in this chart from 9th house covering lagna, lagna lord, Moon, the Mercury. Jupiter is "Ganga Jal"- the purity personified. Whatever way it seems that it is polluted, its natural benefic influence finally prevails, and this is what I was taught. From my inner hearts of hearts, I felt, this person's cry or call was not heard in right perspective. I intervened. I admit this. I don't know this man (Navneet) who he is? But I know Mr. Krishnan and I Know Mrs. Wendy. But my intention was not to lower their dignity in any way. There could be some karma from my side to be liquidated towards this Navneet. I had to help him. I did that. I had to be a witness as per the teachings of my Guru Ramana. But, my Saturn and Mars do not allow me to keep quite. In the circumstances, as an astrologer, whatever I had to do, I did that here. If you feel I offended you or Krishnan in this process, I apologize.Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. PS: Yes. Moon is debilitated in Lagna in Scorpio. But Lagna Lord Mars sits in his own house. Scorpio is Lagna. Mars owns Scorpio. Lagna is Kendra. Mars conjuncts Moon in Kendra. I timed his marriage according to instructions of Jaimini and Mandook Dasha, I do not wish to go into the technical aspects of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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