Birth of twins

[Guest guest]

Dear Mrs. Wendy,With due respects to sage Parashara, I have to state that this dictum fails in many twins charts. In my article, I have given seven examples of twins and in none of the charts Sun is in quadraped sign!

Regards,KrishnaOn Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Manoj, Krishna and All,

 

The classics do give us some basic principles in regards to twin births.

For instance, Parashara states in BPHS Ch12: 9

http://jyotishvidya.com/ch12.htm

 

**The native, who has the Sun in a quadruped sign while others are in

dual signs with strength, is born as one of the twins.**

 

In the instance of myself and twin sister, Sun occupies Leo (a quadruped

sign) whilst lagna lord occupies the dual sign of Gemini.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna,

 

///With due respects to sage Parashara, I have to state that this dictum

fails

in many twins charts.///

 

As we know, the rules given in the classics are (at best) a guide to

point us in a certain direction. The sages themselves tell us that we

need to use our own common-sense when applying these rules.

 

YOUR EXAMPLE CHARTS:

 

A: Lagnesh Venus in 1st half Capricorn (quadruped) with dispositor in Leo

(quadruped).

 

B: Lagnesh Moon's dispositor in dual sign of Gemini, Sun's dispositor

(Saturn) in Leo.

 

C: Lagnesh Mars in dual sign of Gemini, Sun's dispositor in dual sign of

Virgo.

 

D: Dual sign Pisces rises with Jupiter (and Sun) in dual sign of Gemini.

 

E: Dual sign Sagittarius rises with lagna lord's dispositor in lagna,

Sun's dispositor in Leo.

 

F. Jolie-Pitt: Sun in dual sign of Gemini, Lagnesh Mars in quadruped sign

(Leo).

 

 

PS: If we have any enterprising members with some time on their hands

they might care to search the classics for other combinations.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, September 11, 2009 3:16 PM

Re: Birth of twins

 

 

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

With due respects to sage Parashara, I have to state that this dictum

fails

in many twins charts. In my article, I have given seven examples of twins

and in none of the charts Sun is in quadraped sign!

 

Regards,

Krishna

[Guest guest]

(PS: If we have any enterprising members with some time on their hands

they might care to *search the classics for other combinations*.)

 

I should perhaps rephrase that to *search the classics for more

references*.

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

///With due respects to sage Parashara, I have to state that this dictum

fails in many twins charts.///

 

As we know, the rules given in the classics are (at best) a guide to

point us in a certain direction. The sages themselves tell us that we

need to use our own common-sense when applying these rules.

 

YOUR EXAMPLE CHARTS:

 

A: Lagnesh Venus in 1st half Capricorn (quadruped) with dispositor in Leo

(quadruped).

 

B: Lagnesh Moon's dispositor in dual sign of Gemini, Sun's dispositor

(Saturn) in Leo.

 

C: Lagnesh Mars in dual sign of Gemini, Sun's dispositor in dual sign of

Virgo.

 

D: Dual sign Pisces rises with Jupiter (and Sun) in dual sign of Gemini.

 

E: Dual sign Sagittarius rises with lagna lord's dispositor in lagna,

Sun's dispositor in Leo.

 

F. Jolie-Pitt: Sun in dual sign of Gemini, Lagnesh Mars in quadruped sign

(Leo).

 

 

PS: If we have any enterprising members with some time on their hands

they might care to search the classics for other combinations.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

[Guest guest]

Dear Mrs. Wendy,Well, I agree that Parashara might not be explicit (like most ancient sages) in putting things down in black and white, unlike modern writers. Lot of things have been said implicitly. Assuming that Sun/LL/LL dispositor should be in a quadraped sign for a twin birth, it still fails in some cases. Of course, I understand that we can not expect 100% results from any dictum. I wonder what is the logic behind specifying a quadraped sign. Could it be that two twins will have 4 legs altogether?

Thanks for this additional pointer to a twin's chart. I notice that I have looked these charts from a different angle. I am happy that my rules are also yielding consistent results.

Regards,KrishnaOn Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

///With due respects to sage Parashara, I have to state that this dictum

fails

in many twins charts.///

 

As we know, the rules given in the classics are (at best) a guide to

point us in a certain direction. The sages themselves tell us that we

need to use our own common-sense when applying these rules.

 

YOUR EXAMPLE CHARTS:

 

A: Lagnesh Venus in 1st half Capricorn (quadruped) with dispositor in Leo

(quadruped).

 

B: Lagnesh Moon's dispositor in dual sign of Gemini, Sun's dispositor

(Saturn) in Leo.

 

C: Lagnesh Mars in dual sign of Gemini, Sun's dispositor in dual sign of

Virgo.

 

D: Dual sign Pisces rises with Jupiter (and Sun) in dual sign of Gemini.

 

E: Dual sign Sagittarius rises with lagna lord's dispositor in lagna,

Sun's dispositor in Leo.

 

F. Jolie-Pitt: Sun in dual sign of Gemini, Lagnesh Mars in quadruped sign

(Leo).

 

PS: If we have any enterprising members with some time on their hands

they might care to search the classics for other combinations.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

 

-

" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, September 11, 2009 3:16 PM

Re: Birth of twins

 

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

With due respects to sage Parashara, I have to state that this dictum

fails

in many twins charts. In my article, I have given seven examples of twins

and in none of the charts Sun is in quadraped sign!

 

Regards,

Krishna

[Guest guest]

Dear Mrs. Wendy,I forgot mention in my previous mail:Though I am looking at the twins chart from a different angle, I am still following the basic principles laid down by Parashara. Hence, I assume that using the building blocks provided by Parashara we could help ourselves by documenting such observations.

Regards,KrishnaOn Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote:

Dear Mrs. Wendy,Well, I agree that Parashara might not be explicit (like most ancient sages) in putting things down in black and white, unlike modern writers. Lot of things have been said implicitly. Assuming that Sun/LL/LL dispositor should be in a quadraped sign for a twin birth, it still fails in some cases. Of course, I understand that we can not expect 100% results from any dictum. I wonder what is the logic behind specifying a quadraped sign. Could it be that two twins will have 4 legs altogether?

Thanks for this additional pointer to a twin's chart. I notice that I have looked these charts from a different angle. I am happy that my rules are also yielding consistent results.

 

Regards,KrishnaOn Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

///With due respects to sage Parashara, I have to state that this dictum

fails

in many twins charts.///

 

As we know, the rules given in the classics are (at best) a guide to

point us in a certain direction. The sages themselves tell us that we

need to use our own common-sense when applying these rules.

 

YOUR EXAMPLE CHARTS:

 

A: Lagnesh Venus in 1st half Capricorn (quadruped) with dispositor in Leo

(quadruped).

 

B: Lagnesh Moon's dispositor in dual sign of Gemini, Sun's dispositor

(Saturn) in Leo.

 

C: Lagnesh Mars in dual sign of Gemini, Sun's dispositor in dual sign of

Virgo.

 

D: Dual sign Pisces rises with Jupiter (and Sun) in dual sign of Gemini.

 

E: Dual sign Sagittarius rises with lagna lord's dispositor in lagna,

Sun's dispositor in Leo.

 

F. Jolie-Pitt: Sun in dual sign of Gemini, Lagnesh Mars in quadruped sign

(Leo).

 

PS: If we have any enterprising members with some time on their hands

they might care to search the classics for other combinations.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

 

-

" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, September 11, 2009 3:16 PM

Re: Birth of twins

 

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

With due respects to sage Parashara, I have to state that this dictum

fails

in many twins charts. In my article, I have given seven examples of twins

and in none of the charts Sun is in quadraped sign!

 

Regards,

Krishna

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna,

 

///I wonder what is the logic behind specifying a quadraped sign. Could

it be

that two twins will have 4 legs altogether?///

 

Unfortunately I cannot give a definitive answer to that, except that

these characteristics of the signs come under the heading of feet...

Pisces being the one sign that's described as footless. The number and

type of feet will show the inherent strength of that sign and planets

operating through it. The number of feet can measure the inherent

physical and character strength.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

 

 

-

" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, September 11, 2009 6:39 PM

Re: Birth of twins

 

 

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

Well, I agree that Parashara might not be explicit (like most ancient

sages)

in putting things down in black and white, unlike modern writers. Lot of

things have been said implicitly. Assuming that Sun/LL/LL dispositor

should

be in a quadraped sign for a twin birth, it still fails in some cases. Of

course, I understand that we can not expect 100% results from any dictum.

I

wonder what is the logic behind specifying a quadraped sign. Could it be

that two twins will have 4 legs altogether?

 

Thanks for this additional pointer to a twin's chart. I notice that I

have

looked these charts from a different angle. I am happy that my rules are

also yielding consistent results.

 

Regards,

Krishna

[Guest guest]

PS: On reading (again) through the following article

http://www.Vedic Astrologycenter.net/rasi-bhava.html I assume it's more

to do with the overall strength of the (quadruped) signs, rather than the

number of feet per se.

 

I welcome input on this :-)

 

______

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

///I wonder what is the logic behind specifying a quadraped sign. Could

it be that two twins will have 4 legs altogether?///

 

Unfortunately I cannot give a definitive answer to that, except that

these characteristics of the signs come under the heading of feet...

Pisces being the one sign that's described as footless. The number and

type of feet will show the inherent strength of that sign and planets

operating through it. The number of feet can measure the inherent

physical and character strength.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

[Guest guest]

Dear Mrs. Wendy,Thanks for this note.In the link given by you, they say that only Pisces is feetless. What about libra and aquarius?Regards,

KrishnaOn Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

PS: On reading (again) through the following article

http://www.Vedic Astrologycenter.net/rasi-bhava.html I assume it's more

to do with the overall strength of the (quadruped) signs, rather than the

number of feet per se.

 

I welcome input on this :-)

 

______

 

Dear Krishna,

 

///I wonder what is the logic behind specifying a quadraped sign. Could

it be that two twins will have 4 legs altogether?///

 

Unfortunately I cannot give a definitive answer to that, except that

these characteristics of the signs come under the heading of feet...

Pisces being the one sign that's described as footless. The number and

type of feet will show the inherent strength of that sign and planets

operating through it. The number of feet can measure the inherent

physical and character strength.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna,

 

///In the link given by you, they say that only Pisces is feetless. What

about libra and aquarius?///

 

Very quickly before I put both this computer and myself to bed for the

night...

 

Both Libra and Aquarius are classed as biped rasis...second in strength

to the quadruped rasis.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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[Guest guest]

Dear Mrs Wendy,Krishna Ji and memebers,

Bipeds as human beings has to be the base for arriving at the significace apart from other significant factors like karak venus.

In multiple births quadrupeds as (Aries.leo andscorpio) too are significant to be considered while v analyse topics on multiple births.

Yet kalapurusha significance for analysis birth of twins is also vital aspect .It is difficult to assume the classic principles in verbatim as envisged in Parasara and else where could be linked in analysing of birth of twins but serves a good topic and value addition to Astrology.Shri krishna Ji efforts are laudable and one as a regular reader of his views could benifit from discusion.

The aspects brought out by Mrs Wendy to take into the nature of sign is very enlighting and goes with classicla principles envisaged in parasara.

Vattem Krishnan

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--- On Fri, 9/11/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyaRe: Birth of twinsjyotish-vidya Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 1:10 PM

Dear Krishna,///In the link given by you, they say that only Pisces is feetless. Whatabout libra and aquarius?///Very quickly before I put both this computer and myself to bed for thenight...Both Libra and Aquarius are classed as biped rasis...second in strength to the quadruped rasis.Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya .com____________ _________ _________ _______

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Thanks Mrs. Wendy!Regards,KrishnaOn Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

///In the link given by you, they say that only Pisces is feetless. What

about libra and aquarius?///

 

Very quickly before I put both this computer and myself to bed for the

night...

 

Both Libra and Aquarius are classed as biped rasis...second in strength

to the quadruped rasis.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

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