Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Dear Krishnan, Gopi and All, Those who have been on this group for some time will (likely) remember that possible lagna's for Obama's chart (including Libra) were discussed at length long before his birth certificate was published. I myself studied these other lagnas and found the events of his life were NOT confirmed. Capricorn (for me) became a possibility due to certain similarities with another native who's chart we were discussing at the time...namely Vic DiCara. I recognised the value of this (Capricorn) chart as soon as it was cast and set about confirming the major events of his life. This is what decided Capricorn for me...NOT the published birth certificate which came MUCH LATER!. It was a long standing member of this group that informed me (and the group) that Obama's birth certificate had been published showing a time that CONFIRMED Capricorn lagna. In my opinion, the onus is on those (who advocate other lagnas) to systematically confirm the events of his life and to prove beyond doubt the legitimacy of their preferred lagna. For my part I have already done this work and am confident that Capricorn is correct. As for the legitimacy of the birth certificate itself I can only say that the practice of altering the details on (any) official document, available to the public, is NOT something that's legally acceptable in the West; and it's certainly not the mindset to hide birth details in order to protect oneself from unscrupulous people... Other than this I have nothing more to say on the topic. Thank You, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Dear All, To support Mrs Wendy's line of Argument, I would like to add that the Republicans spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to elect John McCain and defeat Obama. The Authenticity of this Birth Certificate was a Critical Piece in the Election. So, we can be reasonably certain that if there was even an inkling of suspicion over manipulation of this Birth Certficate, we would have known about it well before the Election. It is highly unlikely (almost impossible) that this Birth Certificate is not authentic. Regards, -Manoj Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyajyotish-vidya Sent: Wed, October 14, 2009 4:46:15 PM Rectification of Obama's chartDear Krishnan, Gopi and All,Those who have been on this group for some time will (likely) remember that possible lagna's for Obama's chart (including Libra) were discussed at length long before his birth certificate was published.I myself studied these other lagnas and found the events of his life were NOT confirmed. Capricorn (for me) became a possibility due to certain similarities with another native who's chart we were discussing at the time...namely Vic DiCara.I recognised the value of this (Capricorn) chart as soon as it was cast and set about confirming the major events of his life. This is what decided Capricorn for me...NOT the published birth certificate which came MUCH LATER!.It was a long standing member of this group that informed me (and the group) that Obama's birth certificate had been published showing a time that CONFIRMED Capricorn lagna.In my opinion, the onus is on those (who advocate other lagnas) to systematically confirm the events of his life and to prove beyond doubt the legitimacy of their preferred lagna. For my part I have already done this work and am confident that Capricorn is correct.As for the legitimacy of the birth certificate itself I can only say that the practice of altering the details on (any) official document, available to the public, is NOT something that's legally acceptable in the West; and it's certainly not the mindset to hide birth details in order to protect oneself from unscrupulous people...Other than this I have nothing more to say on the topic.Thank You,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com___--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Dear Manoj, Well said! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Manoj Chandran " <chandran_manoj <jyotish-vidya > Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:03 AM Re: Rectification of Obama's chart Dear All, To support Mrs Wendy's line of Argument, I would like to add that the Republicans spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to elect John McCain and defeat Obama. The Authenticity of this Birth Certificate was a Critical Piece in the Election. So, we can be reasonably certain that if there was even an inkling of suspicion over manipulation of this Birth Certficate, we would have known about it well before the Election. It is highly unlikely (almost impossible) that this Birth Certificate is not authentic. Regards, -Manoj ________________________________ Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya jyotish-vidya Wed, October 14, 2009 4:46:15 PM Rectification of Obama's chart Dear Krishnan, Gopi and All, Those who have been on this group for some time will (likely) remember that possible lagna's for Obama's chart (including Libra) were discussed at length long before his birth certificate was published. I myself studied these other lagnas and found the events of his life were NOT confirmed. Capricorn (for me) became a possibility due to certain similarities with another native who's chart we were discussing at the time...namely Vic DiCara. I recognised the value of this (Capricorn) chart as soon as it was cast and set about confirming the major events of his life. This is what decided Capricorn for me...NOT the published birth certificate which came MUCH LATER!. It was a long standing member of this group that informed me (and the group) that Obama's birth certificate had been published showing a time that CONFIRMED Capricorn lagna. In my opinion, the onus is on those (who advocate other lagnas) to systematically confirm the events of his life and to prove beyond doubt the legitimacy of their preferred lagna. For my part I have already done this work and am confident that Capricorn is correct. As for the legitimacy of the birth certificate itself I can only say that the practice of altering the details on (any) official document, available to the public, is NOT something that's legally acceptable in the West; and it's certainly not the mindset to hide birth details in order to protect oneself from unscrupulous people... Other than this I have nothing more to say on the topic. Thank You, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Dear Friends, I have seen 3-4 Astrological magzines of repute using capricorn lagna and made their observations.In JV too we had a very eloberate and extended discussion on the lagna based on the time of birth .Finally the capricorn seems to be most authentic and what ever JV has finalised is in tune with the life and events of Mr.Obama. At this stage keeping in my anyother event like Nobel peace prize being conferred on mr Ovmam,needs change of his lagna as well as change of birth. we have not heard anything contrary or dispute in his date of birth.what is taken seems to be having no objection and no dispute. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) --- On Wed, 10/14/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidyaRe: Rectification of Obama's chartjyotish-vidya Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 8:12 PM Dear Manoj,Well said!Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya .com____________ _________ _________ _______- "Manoj Chandran" <chandran_manoj@ ><jyotish-vidya>Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:03 AMRe: Rectification of Obama's chartDear All,To support Mrs Wendy's line of Argument, I would like to add that the Republicans spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to elect John McCain and defeat Obama. The Authenticity of this Birth Certificate was a Critical Piece in the Election. So, we can be reasonably certain that if there was even an inkling of suspicion over manipulation of this Birth Certficate, we would have known about it well before the Election. It is highly unlikely (almost impossible) that this Birth Certificate is not authentic.Regards,-Manoj____________ _________ _________ __Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@ bigpond.com>jyotish-vidyaWed, October 14, 2009 4:46:15 PM Rectification of Obama's chartDear Krishnan, Gopi and All,Those who have been on this group for some time will (likely) rememberthat possible lagna's for Obama's chart (including Libra) were discussedat length long before his birth certificate was published.I myself studied these other lagnas and found the events of his life wereNOT confirmed. Capricorn (for me) became a possibility due to certainsimilarities with another native who's chart we were discussing at thetime...namely Vic DiCara.I recognised the value of this (Capricorn) chart as soon as it was castand set about confirming the major events of his life. This is whatdecided Capricorn for me...NOT the published birth certificate which cameMUCH LATER!.It was a long standing member of this group that informed me (and thegroup) that Obama's birth certificate had been published showing a timethat CONFIRMED Capricorn lagna.In my opinion, the onus is on those (who advocate other lagnas) tosystematically confirm the events of his life and to prove beyond doubtthe legitimacy of their preferred lagna. For my part I have already donethis work and am confident that Capricorn is correct.As for the legitimacy of the birth certificate itself I can only say thatthe practice of altering the details on (any) official document,available to the public, is NOT something that's legally acceptable inthe West; and it's certainly not the mindset to hide birth details inorder to protect oneself from unscrupulous people...Other than this I have nothing more to say on the topic.Thank You,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya .com____________ _________ _________ _______ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Dear ones,I have highest regard for Mrs Wendy and her analysys of any chart not just Obama.I did not see the previous discussion on the subject and i was not a member then.I am sorry if i made a mistake.I am not advocating any other lagna for sure specially after Mrs Wendy's analysis of makar lagna.Love and regards,gopi jyotish-vidya , "Mrs. Wendy" <jyotishvidya wrote:>> Dear Manoj,> > Well said!> > Best Wishes,> Mrs. Wendy> http://JyotishVidya.com> ___> > > - > "Manoj Chandran" chandran_manoj jyotish-vidya > Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:03 AM> Re: Rectification of Obama's chart> > > Dear All,> > To support Mrs Wendy's line of Argument, I would like to add that the > Republicans spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to elect John > McCain and defeat Obama. The Authenticity of this Birth Certificate was a > Critical Piece in the Election. So, we can be reasonably certain that if > there was even an inkling of suspicion over manipulation of this Birth > Certficate, we would have known about it well before the Election. It is > highly unlikely (almost impossible) that this Birth Certificate is not > authentic.> > Regards,> -Manoj> > > > > > ________________________________> Mrs. Wendy jyotishvidya jyotish-vidya > Wed, October 14, 2009 4:46:15 PM> Rectification of Obama's chart> > Dear Krishnan, Gopi and All,> > Those who have been on this group for some time will (likely) remember> that possible lagna's for Obama's chart (including Libra) were discussed> at length long before his birth certificate was published.> > I myself studied these other lagnas and found the events of his life were> NOT confirmed. Capricorn (for me) became a possibility due to certain> similarities with another native who's chart we were discussing at the> time...namely Vic DiCara.> > I recognised the value of this (Capricorn) chart as soon as it was cast> and set about confirming the major events of his life. This is what> decided Capricorn for me...NOT the published birth certificate which came> MUCH LATER!.> > It was a long standing member of this group that informed me (and the> group) that Obama's birth certificate had been published showing a time> that CONFIRMED Capricorn lagna.> > In my opinion, the onus is on those (who advocate other lagnas) to> systematically confirm the events of his life and to prove beyond doubt> the legitimacy of their preferred lagna. For my part I have already done> this work and am confident that Capricorn is correct.> > As for the legitimacy of the birth certificate itself I can only say that> the practice of altering the details on (any) official document,> available to the public, is NOT something that's legally acceptable in> the West; and it's certainly not the mindset to hide birth details in> order to protect oneself from unscrupulous people...> > Other than this I have nothing more to say on the topic.> > Thank You,> Mrs. Wendy> http://JyotishVidya.com> ___> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Dear VK, As an added note - unfortunately, several posts did not come through until after I sent my recent post - I just wanted to say that the debacle of the Nobel Peace Prize that you noted (and I inadvertently neglected)needs to be included in the added insult to injury to the President and to the USA. Both being viewed in very poor taste across the globe. And, once again, it is the Americans and their supposed arrogance of gaining everything whether fairly or not that undermines the health and security of the President and the country. There is no doubt that once again Mars and Jupiters' current debilitation highlights the negative of both and quite possibly their demise through self infliction of stance. As Always, Uttara jyotish-vidya , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > I have seen 3-4 Astrological magzines of repute using capricorn lagna and made their observations. > In JV too we had a very eloberate and extended discussion on the lagna based on the time of birth .Finally the capricorn seems to be most authentic and what ever JV has finalised is in tune with the life and events of Mr.Obama. > At this stage keeping in my anyother event like Nobel peace prize being conferred on mr Ovmam,needs change of his lagna as well as change of birth. > we have not heard anything contrary or dispute in his date of birth.what is taken seems to be having no objection and no dispute. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > > > --- On Wed, 10/14/09, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: > > > Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya > Re: Rectification of Obama's chart > jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 8:12 PM > > > > > > > Dear Manoj, > > Well said! > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya .com > ____________ _________ _________ _______ > > - > " Manoj Chandran " <chandran_manoj@ > > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:03 AM > Re: Rectification of Obama's chart > > Dear All, > > To support Mrs Wendy's line of Argument, I would like to add that the > Republicans spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to elect John > McCain and defeat Obama. The Authenticity of this Birth Certificate was a > Critical Piece in the Election. So, we can be reasonably certain that if > there was even an inkling of suspicion over manipulation of this Birth > Certficate, we would have known about it well before the Election. It is > highly unlikely (almost impossible) that this Birth Certificate is not > authentic. > > Regards, > -Manoj > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@ bigpond.com> > jyotish-vidya > Wed, October 14, 2009 4:46:15 PM > Rectification of Obama's chart > > Dear Krishnan, Gopi and All, > > Those who have been on this group for some time will (likely) remember > that possible lagna's for Obama's chart (including Libra) were discussed > at length long before his birth certificate was published. > > I myself studied these other lagnas and found the events of his life were > NOT confirmed. Capricorn (for me) became a possibility due to certain > similarities with another native who's chart we were discussing at the > time...namely Vic DiCara. > > I recognised the value of this (Capricorn) chart as soon as it was cast > and set about confirming the major events of his life. This is what > decided Capricorn for me...NOT the published birth certificate which came > MUCH LATER!. > > It was a long standing member of this group that informed me (and the > group) that Obama's birth certificate had been published showing a time > that CONFIRMED Capricorn lagna. > > In my opinion, the onus is on those (who advocate other lagnas) to > systematically confirm the events of his life and to prove beyond doubt > the legitimacy of their preferred lagna. For my part I have already done > this work and am confident that Capricorn is correct. > > As for the legitimacy of the birth certificate itself I can only say that > the practice of altering the details on (any) official document, > available to the public, is NOT something that's legally acceptable in > the West; and it's certainly not the mindset to hide birth details in > order to protect oneself from unscrupulous people... > > Other than this I have nothing more to say on the topic. > > Thank You, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya .com > ____________ _________ _________ _______ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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