Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Dear Uttara, Of course Ms.Patry is entitled to her views; however they have no place on a discussion forum that promotes the study of Parashari (120yr.) Vimsottari dasa system. The principles governing this system, clearly laid out on JyotishVidya.com, are NOT interchangeable with Jaimini as is made clear in the following article... http://jyotishvidya.com/jaimini_or_parasara.htm Those wishing to study the Jaimini system can, I'm sure, find forums specialising in Jaimini techniques. Those wishing to use the trans-Saturnine planets (Neptune, Uranus and Pluto) should (again) be able to find forums specialising in this. Those wishing to follow the principles of KP or SA should also be able to find forums that promote these systems. As for Ms.Patry's involvement with ACVA (U.S.)...Her methods are a reflection of the questionable standards of such institutions. I myself a member of ACVA (Aus) for one year only (many years ago) refused to renew my membership due to the growing neo-vedic influence within the organisation. How can we have both Vedic and Neo-Vedic promoted by such organisations...it's quite ridiculous and absolutely hypocritical. I refuse to have anything to do with them. ACVA = American Council of Vedic Astrologers ~and~ ACVA = Australian Council of Vedic Astrologers More than anything else, I believe people attach themselves to these organisations because they feel it legitimises them somehow i.e. " I'm right to mix and match different systems and to incorporate the outer planets because I have the backing of ACVA " ... PS: It's probably wise to close this topic now as my views on this have been made known here time and time again. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Uttara " <muttaraphalguni <jyotish-vidya > Sunday, October 18, 2009 3:50 PM Re: Startling News of Mr Barack Obama's winning coveted Noble Prize-Review of the Ch Dear Mrs. wendy and All, Yes, these things can get out of hand unfortunately... I believe there was one astrologer who used to be listed on JV (forgive me I cant think of his name at the moment) who was/is? charging $500.00 an hour or 1.5hrs. His picture had the white paint down his forehead unto his nose. Anyway, my purpose was not to distract you but to give you the information you asked for on Ms. Patry's prediction of who the next president would be. It was also Ms. Patry who on her site slammed any traditional astrologer whose was not up to date on current modern techniques which would include in a reading the outer planets and some Jamini principles. It was quite some article of vehmenent ousting of traditional astrolgers who practiced only Parasara. She also has accredited degrees from Vedic schools in USA and studied under an Indian guru.Ms Patry often speaks on radio shows as in public platforms. Again, not to get off track, the links I sent for All to view here on JV was to support what was put forth last year that presidential elect Obama would not win the election based on his 19:11 TOB and that he would succumb in office if he were elected or before the election itself. Which none has happen. The death was that of his maternal Grandmother. I thought it interesting though, that once Ms Patry revised her chart time of 13minutes she gave grave warning for a particularly difficult time for President Obama but did not state his death. The point I was making in my post to Gopi was that he is in grave disruption, tension and unfavorableness but to date he has not been assasinated in this high risk month of October 2009 that everyone was sure would befall him. Rather, his reputation has falter greatly. Which I think creates more damage to him than if he were killed or died in office. Also his death would not gain favorably or anything in the leadership of this country. The Conggres and House of Representatives Democratic rule would not change and V.P. Biden would not improve things domestically or internationally as neither would Mrs Nancy Pelosi. Both who are in line for the presidency if President Obama did succumb while in office. In fact it might make things worse. On to more interesting facts or conspiracy is the You Tube link I listed with Gary Bell stating that Vedic astrology has proven that all presidents that died in office were elected on an even year. I would be quite interested in hearing your take or other members on this. Could possibly make a good study format of discussion. If so, I would favor a change in the topic name for posts. As always, Uttara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Dear Mrs. Wendy, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you have said here :-). I for one do not agree with Neo-Vedic nor have i ever. Topic closed. Information for wrong time of birth of President Obama has been given and highlighted in its inaccuracy. As Always, Uttara jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Uttara, > > Of course Ms.Patry is entitled to her views; however they have no place > on a discussion forum that promotes the study of Parashari (120yr.) > Vimsottari dasa system. The principles governing this system, clearly > laid out on JyotishVidya.com, are NOT interchangeable with Jaimini as is > made clear in the following article... > http://jyotishvidya.com/jaimini_or_parasara.htm > > Those wishing to study the Jaimini system can, I'm sure, find forums > specialising in Jaimini techniques. Those wishing to use the > trans-Saturnine planets (Neptune, Uranus and Pluto) should (again) be > able to find forums specialising in this. Those wishing to follow the > principles of KP or SA should also be able to find forums that promote > these systems. > > As for Ms.Patry's involvement with ACVA (U.S.)...Her methods are a > reflection of the questionable standards of such institutions. I myself a > member of ACVA (Aus) for one year only (many years ago) refused to renew > my membership due to the growing neo-vedic influence within the > organisation. > > How can we have both Vedic and Neo-Vedic promoted by such > organisations...it's quite ridiculous and absolutely hypocritical. I > refuse to have anything to do with them. > > ACVA = American Council of Vedic Astrologers > ~and~ > ACVA = Australian Council of Vedic Astrologers > > More than anything else, I believe people attach themselves to these > organisations because they feel it legitimises them somehow i.e. " I'm > right to mix and match different systems and to incorporate the outer > planets because I have the backing of ACVA " ... > > PS: It's probably wise to close this topic now as my views on this have > been made known here time and time again. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " Uttara " <muttaraphalguni > <jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, October 18, 2009 3:50 PM > Re: Startling News of Mr Barack Obama's winning > coveted Noble Prize-Review of the Ch > > > Dear Mrs. wendy and All, > > Yes, these things can get out of hand unfortunately... > I believe there was one astrologer who used to be listed on JV (forgive > me I cant think of his name at the moment) who was/is? charging $500.00 > an hour or 1.5hrs. His picture had the white paint down his forehead > unto his nose. Anyway, my purpose was not to distract you but to give > you the information you asked for on Ms. Patry's prediction of who the > next president would be. It was also Ms. Patry who on her site slammed > any traditional astrologer whose was not up to date on current modern > techniques which would include in a reading the outer planets and some > Jamini principles. It was quite some article of vehmenent ousting of > traditional astrolgers who practiced only Parasara. She also has > accredited degrees from Vedic schools in USA and studied under an Indian > guru.Ms Patry often speaks on radio shows as in public platforms. > > Again, not to get off track, the links I sent for All to view here on JV > was to support what was put forth last year that presidential elect Obama > would not win the election based on his 19:11 TOB and that he would > succumb in office if he were elected or before the election itself. Which > none has happen. The death was that of his maternal Grandmother. I > thought it interesting though, that once Ms Patry revised her chart time > of 13minutes she gave grave warning for a particularly difficult time for > President Obama but did not state his death. > > The point I was making in my post to Gopi was that he is in grave > disruption, tension and unfavorableness but to date he has not been > assasinated in this high risk month of October 2009 that everyone was > sure would befall him. Rather, his reputation has falter greatly. > Which I think creates more damage to him than if he were killed or died > in office. Also his death would not gain favorably or anything in the > leadership of this country. The Conggres and House of Representatives > Democratic rule would not change and V.P. Biden would not improve things > domestically or internationally as neither would Mrs Nancy Pelosi. Both > who are in line for the presidency if President Obama did succumb while > in office. In fact it might make things worse. > > On to more interesting facts or conspiracy is the You Tube link I listed > with Gary Bell stating that Vedic astrology has proven that all > presidents that died in office were elected on an even year. > > I would be quite interested in hearing your take or other members on > this. Could possibly make a good study format of discussion. > If so, I would favor a change in the topic name for posts. > > As always, > > Uttara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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