Guest guest Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Dear ones, this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died of cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09).She was in the hospital for a month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day of jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as from moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars the lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and also with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any two of them. The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be noted along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna........Birth data for those who are interested.27-10-1965,;8.41am in visakhapatnam(A.P).india Love and regards, gopi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Dear Gopi and group,  What was the type of cancer that she was suffering from. Moon and Sun both are neecha. Also the lord of 1st,mars's  star (mercury ) is in 12th. and the lord of 12th is in 1st. Moon also has a parvarthan with Sat at the nakshatra level  Both Sun as well as moon have nechabhanga and rahu and ketu are exalted. Lord of 8th is also in 12th  Best Regards  Nilesh --- On Sun, 20/12/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote: gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! jyotish-vidya Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 6:57 PM  Dear ones, this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died of cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09) .She was in the hospital for a month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day of jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as from moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars the lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and also with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any two of them. The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be noted along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna....... .Birth data for those who are interested.27- 10-1965,; 8.41am in visakhapatnam( A.P).india Love and regards, gopi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Dear Neelesh, sorry that i dont have much details about the chart since she is not personally known to me..... Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 wrote: > > Dear Gopi and group, >  > What was the type of cancer that she was suffering from. > Moon and Sun both are neecha. Also the lord of 1st,mars's  star (mercury ) is in 12th. > and the lord of 12th is in 1st. Moon also has a parvarthan with Sat at the nakshatra level >  > Both Sun as well as moon have nechabhanga and rahu and ketu are exalted. > Lord of 8th is also in 12th > >  > Best Regards >  > Nilesh > --- On Sun, 20/12/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927 wrote: > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > jyotish-vidya > Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 6:57 PM > > >  > > > > Dear ones, > this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died of > cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09) .She was in the hospital for a > month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day of > jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as from > moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars the > lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and also > with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign > cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any two > of them. > The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! > TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be noted > along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna....... .Birth data for those who > are interested.27- 10-1965,; 8.41am in visakhapatnam( A.P).india > Love and regards, > gopi. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Dear Friends, 1.The death at 44 plus taking place in the pratyantar of rahu and dasa od venus sounds to be immature death. For this native sun debilitated happened to be in libra in swati of Rahu in 1st quarter in moksha sthan in 12th from rasi as well as lagna. 2.As maraka Rahu was very prominent in causing death.Even the natal aspect of jupiter present in 8th too could not save the native as more or less abrupt and  premature.  3.In Gochara jupiter's transit to Kumbha from kama bhava to moksha bhava lead to the liberation of the soul to rest in peace.It is really a case of sympathy as jupiter in makara has been taking care of the native by panchama drishti aspecting rahu in maraka sthana from last Nov2008.on the day of event in Dhanishta 2nd of Mangal.a first rated malefic in exaltation in 2nd in navamsa is with sun.The death taking place on saturday 19th must have coincided with sun's nakshtra of uttarashadha of makara. 4.In natal chart jupiter as 2nd lord also marka is retrograde and posited in 8th in aridra 1st quarter in Gemini. In this case the possibility of cancer leading to death could be :reproductive oragans as lord of 7th is Venus is Mars .The lagna of scorpio is raising in Anuradha Nakshtra of Saturn in the last quarter .Sarurn as lord of 3rd and 4th is in very close degrees with lagna and is in the satabhisha nakshtra od rahu.The death must have also coincided with problems in breathing and accumulation of fkuids in lungs. 5.Mars as 6th and lagna lord, is aspected by saturn retrograde from moksha bhava of 4th and also Rahu.supposed to be in exaltation in rohini of Moon. Moon also in 8th of natural zodiac and in scorpio is afflicted and is in very close conjunction.Both moon and ketu are almost in same degrees. 6.In navamsa mars is in 2nd with sun(makinig ati agni rasi) in capricorn navamsa.Sun and mars joining togther in saturn;s sign.  Together w ith Gochara sani in kanya(lord mercury) aspecting lagna  inflicted a blow by way of arresting life systems.Even the circulaltory system of the native too contributed to the collpase, failing doctors efforts. Must have been in very serious condition for more than 48 hours and with transfusions of fluids? 7.Also saturn in watery sign of pisces happened to be 4th in navamsa aspecting navamsa lagna lord ,jupiter in a fiery sign and is also mool trikona.could not save from the malefic aspect of saturn retrograde leading to a very pitiable condition.two slow moving planets in this chart in retrograde condition gives full account of the sorrowful sate of health of native.The very fact 8th house raising as lagna with moon and ketu compltes the rest of the natives account of suffering from grave illness. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Sun, 12/20/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote: gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! jyotish-vidya Sunday, December 20, 2009, 10:43 PM  Dear Neelesh, sorry that i dont have much details about the chart since she is not personally known to me..... Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya, nilesh joshi <niljoshi27@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Gopi and group, >  > What was the type of cancer that she was suffering from. > Moon and Sun both are neecha. Also the lord of 1st,mars's  star (mercury ) is in 12th. > and the lord of 12th is in 1st. Moon also has a parvarthan with Sat at the nakshatra level >  > Both Sun as well as moon have nechabhanga and rahu and ketu are exalted. > Lord of 8th is also in 12th > >  > Best Regards >  > Nilesh > --- On Sun, 20/12/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . wrote: > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . > JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > jyotish-vidya > Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 6:57 PM > > >  > > > > Dear ones, > this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died of > cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09) .She was in the hospital for a > month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day of > jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as from > moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars the > lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and also > with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign > cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any two > of them. > The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! > TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be noted > along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna....... .Birth data for those who > are interested.27- 10-1965,; 8.41am in visakhapatnam( A.P).india > Love and regards, > gopi. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Dear Krishnan ji, yes all these multiple factors are responsible for the immature death of the lady.Good analysis.... Regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > 1.The death at 44 plus taking place in the pratyantar of rahu and dasa od venus sounds to be immature death. > For this native sun debilitated happened to be in libra in swati of Rahu in 1st quarter in moksha sthan in 12th from rasi as well as lagna. > 2.As maraka Rahu was very prominent in causing death.Even the natal aspect of jupiter present in 8th too could not save the native as more or less abrupt and  premature.  > 3.In Gochara jupiter's transit to Kumbha from kama bhava to moksha bhava lead to the liberation of the soul to rest in peace.It is really a case of sympathy as jupiter in makara has been taking care of the native by panchama drishti aspecting rahu in maraka sthana from last Nov2008.on the day of event in Dhanishta 2nd of Mangal.a first rated malefic in exaltation in 2nd in navamsa is with sun.The death taking place on saturday 19th must have coincided with sun's nakshtra of uttarashadha of makara. > 4.In natal chart jupiter as 2nd lord also marka is retrograde and posited in 8th in aridra 1st quarter in Gemini. > In this case the possibility of cancer leading to death could be :reproductive oragans as lord of 7th is Venus is Mars .The lagna of scorpio is raising in Anuradha Nakshtra of Saturn in the last quarter ..Sarurn as lord of 3rd and 4th is in very close degrees with lagna and is in the satabhisha nakshtra od rahu.The death must have also coincided with problems in breathing and accumulation of fkuids in lungs. > 5.Mars as 6th and lagna lord, is aspected by saturn retrograde from moksha bhava of 4th and also Rahu.supposed to be in exaltation in rohini of Moon. > Moon also in 8th of natural zodiac and in scorpio is afflicted and is in very close conjunction.Both moon and ketu are almost in same degrees. > 6.In navamsa mars is in 2nd with sun(makinig ati agni rasi) in capricorn navamsa.Sun and mars joining togther in saturn;s sign.  > Together w ith Gochara sani in kanya(lord mercury) aspecting lagna  inflicted a blow by way of arresting life systems.Even the circulaltory system of the native too contributed to the collpase, failing doctors efforts. > Must have been in very serious condition for more than 48 hours and with transfusions of fluids? > 7.Also saturn in watery sign of pisces happened to be 4th in navamsa aspecting navamsa lagna lord ,jupiter in a fiery sign and is also mool trikona.could not save from the malefic aspect of saturn retrograde leading to a very pitiable condition.two slow moving planets in this chart in retrograde condition gives full account of the sorrowful sate of health of native.The very fact 8th house raising as lagna with moon and ketu compltes the rest of the natives account of suffering from grave illness. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Sun, 12/20/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927 wrote: > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > jyotish-vidya > Sunday, December 20, 2009, 10:43 PM > > >  > > > > Dear Neelesh, > sorry that i dont have much details about the chart since she is not > personally known to me..... > Love and regards, > gopi. > jyotish-vidya, nilesh joshi <niljoshi27@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Gopi and group, > >  > > What was the type of cancer that she was suffering from. > > Moon and Sun both are neecha. Also the lord of 1st,mars's  star > (mercury ) is in 12th. > > and the lord of 12th is in 1st. Moon also has a parvarthan with Sat at > the nakshatra level > >  > > Both Sun as well as moon have nechabhanga and rahu and ketu are > exalted. > > Lord of 8th is also in 12th > > > >  > > Best Regards > >  > > Nilesh > > --- On Sun, 20/12/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . wrote: > > > > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 6:57 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear ones, > > this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died of > > cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09) .She was in the hospital for > a > > month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day > of > > jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as from > > moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars the > > lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and also > > with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign > > cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any > two > > of them. > > The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! > > TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be noted > > along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna....... .Birth data for those > who > > are interested.27- 10-1965,; 8.41am in visakhapatnam( A.P).india > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Dear Gopi Ji, This is the first time that I am attempting to participate in the group discussion. All this while I was always in the silent invisible mode. Here is my two pence ....analysis of the chart..... 27-10-1965 8.41am Vishakhapatnam(A.P) India 1. The native died at an age of around 44 yrs which would classify as an Madhya Ayu. Although Mars is the Lagnesh (and also the 6th lord..i.e. diseases) and placed in its own house there are a number of negative factors which weaken the life force. First is the presence of the exalted Rahu-Ketu in the 1-7 axis (which is also the axis of the Moon Lagna). Rahu-Ketu is in exact conjunction with the Moon. Moon is at 11-30 and Ketu is at 11-31. The lagna as well as lagnesh are aspected by Rahu as well as Saturn is also Secondly, the Sun which is the significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th house. 2. Venus as lord of 7th and 12th house is quite potent as a Maraka. Venus is placed in the Lagna and very close to Mars, the Lagnesh. 3. The dashas that the native had since birth have been Saturn, Mercury, Ketu and Venus, all of which have not been very helpful. Saturn as a first class malefic aspecting Lagna.....Mercury as lord of the 8th and 11 th houses associating with the debilitated Sun.........Ketu conjunct very tightly with the Moon....... and Venus, being a Strong Maraka, placed in the Lagna........is also the 12th lord. 4. Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is placed in the 7th, the Maraka house. All these factors have not helped the life force. Further, comments/inputs are welcome. With all my regards, RRSR - gopalakrishna jyotish-vidya Sunday, December 20, 2009 06:57 PM JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! Dear ones, this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died of cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09).She was in the hospital for a month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day of jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as from moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars the lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and also with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any two of them. The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be noted along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna........Birth data for those who are interested.27-10-1965,;8.41am in visakhapatnam(A.P).india Love and regards, gopi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Dear Nilesh, today i got the news that it was lung cancer not diagnosed earlier probably mistaken for bronchitis!!something like that.Yes both lumineries are debilitated.... Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 wrote: > > Dear Gopi and group, >  > What was the type of cancer that she was suffering from. > Moon and Sun both are neecha. Also the lord of 1st,mars's  star (mercury ) is in 12th. > and the lord of 12th is in 1st. Moon also has a parvarthan with Sat at the nakshatra level >  > Both Sun as well as moon have nechabhanga and rahu and ketu are exalted. > Lord of 8th is also in 12th > >  > Best Regards >  > Nilesh > --- On Sun, 20/12/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927 wrote: > > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > jyotish-vidya > Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 6:57 PM > > >  > > > > Dear ones, > this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died of > cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09) .She was in the hospital for a > month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day of > jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as from > moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars the > lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and also > with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign > cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any two > of them. > The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! > TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be noted > along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna....... .Birth data for those who > are interested.27- 10-1965,; 8.41am in visakhapatnam( A.P).india > Love and regards, > gopi. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Dear RRSR ji, welcome to the group which i consider an esteemed one owned by an esteemed lady. // the Sun which is the significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th house.// as far as my knowledge goes sun is the significator of soul and moon is life force(spiritual) and mind. // Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is placed in the 7th, the Maraka house.// yes.Jup is the bhukti lord aswell in debilitation in transit. Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " RRS Riat " <rrsriat wrote: > > Dear Gopi Ji, > This is the first time that I am attempting to participate in the group discussion. All > > this while I was always in the silent invisible mode. Here is my two pence > > ...analysis of the chart..... > > 27-10-1965 > 8.41am > Vishakhapatnam(A.P) > India > > 1. The native died at an age of around 44 yrs which would classify as an Madhya > > Ayu. Although Mars is the Lagnesh (and also the 6th lord..i.e. diseases) and > > placed in its own house there are a number of negative factors which weaken the > > life force. First is the presence of the exalted Rahu-Ketu in the 1-7 axis (which is > > also the axis of the Moon Lagna). Rahu-Ketu is in exact conjunction with the > > Moon. Moon is at 11-30 and Ketu is at 11-31. The lagna as well as lagnesh are > > aspected by Rahu as well as Saturn is also Secondly, the Sun which is the > > significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th house. > > 2. Venus as lord of 7th and 12th house is quite potent as a Maraka. Venus is > > placed in the Lagna and very close to Mars, the Lagnesh. > > 3. The dashas that the native had since birth have been Saturn, Mercury, Ketu and > > Venus, all of which have not been very helpful. Saturn as a first class malefic > > aspecting Lagna.....Mercury as lord of the 8th and 11 th houses associating with > > the debilitated Sun.........Ketu conjunct very tightly with the Moon....... and Venus, > > being a Strong Maraka, placed in the Lagna........is also the 12th lord. > > 4. Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is placed in the > > 7th, the Maraka house. > > All these factors have not helped the life force. > Further, comments/inputs are welcome. > With all my regards, > > RRSR > > > - > gopalakrishna > jyotish-vidya > Sunday, December 20, 2009 06:57 PM > JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > Dear ones, > this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died of > cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09).She was in the hospital for a > month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day of > jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as from > moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars the > lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and also > with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign > cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any two > of them. > The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! > TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be noted > along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna........Birth data for those who > are interested.27-10-1965,;8.41am in visakhapatnam(A.P).india > Love and regards, > gopi. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Dear Gopi ji, Thank you for your comments. I correct my thoughts now.... The Sun is the significator of the body and the Moon of the mind..... With all my regards... RRSR - gopalakrishna jyotish-vidya Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:18 PM Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! Dear RRSR ji, welcome to the group which i consider an esteemed one owned by an esteemed lady. // the Sun which is the significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th house.// as far as my knowledge goes sun is the significator of soul and moon is life force(spiritual) and mind. // Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is placed in the 7th, the Maraka house.// yes.Jup is the bhukti lord aswell in debilitation in transit. Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " RRS Riat " <rrsriat wrote: > > Dear Gopi Ji, > This is the first time that I am attempting to participate in the group discussion. All > > this while I was always in the silent invisible mode. Here is my two pence > > ...analysis of the chart..... > > 27-10-1965 > 8.41am > Vishakhapatnam(A.P) > India > > 1. The native died at an age of around 44 yrs which would classify as an Madhya > > Ayu. Although Mars is the Lagnesh (and also the 6th lord..i.e. diseases) and > > placed in its own house there are a number of negative factors which weaken the > > life force. First is the presence of the exalted Rahu-Ketu in the 1-7 axis (which is > > also the axis of the Moon Lagna). Rahu-Ketu is in exact conjunction with the > > Moon. Moon is at 11-30 and Ketu is at 11-31. The lagna as well as lagnesh are > > aspected by Rahu as well as Saturn is also Secondly, the Sun which is the > > significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th house. > > 2. Venus as lord of 7th and 12th house is quite potent as a Maraka. Venus is > > placed in the Lagna and very close to Mars, the Lagnesh. > > 3. The dashas that the native had since birth have been Saturn, Mercury, Ketu and > > Venus, all of which have not been very helpful. Saturn as a first class malefic > > aspecting Lagna.....Mercury as lord of the 8th and 11 th houses associating with > > the debilitated Sun.........Ketu conjunct very tightly with the Moon....... and Venus, > > being a Strong Maraka, placed in the Lagna........is also the 12th lord. > > 4. Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is placed in the > > 7th, the Maraka house. > > All these factors have not helped the life force. > Further, comments/inputs are welcome. > With all my regards, > > RRSR > > > - > gopalakrishna > jyotish-vidya > Sunday, December 20, 2009 06:57 PM > JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > Dear ones, > this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died of > cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09).She was in the hospital for a > month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day of > jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as from > moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars the > lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and also > with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign > cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any two > of them. > The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! > TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be noted > along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna........Birth data for those who > are interested.27-10-1965,;8.41am in visakhapatnam(A.P).india > Love and regards, > gopi. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Dear RRSR Ji, Sun is significator of the Atma not the Body. Being the 5L of the Kalapurusha he is also the natural significator of health. To my knowledge the Lagna Lord and Lagna signify the body and there is no reference in the classics that says Sun signifies the body. Ofcourse I am always open to correction if I am mistaken.  Regards,  -Manoj  ________________________________ RRS Riat <rrsriat jyotish-vidya Tue, December 22, 2009 11:29:28 AM Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!!  Dear Gopi ji, Thank you for your comments. I correct my thoughts now.... The Sun is the significator of the body and the Moon of the mind..... With all my regards... RRSR - gopalakrishna jyotish-vidya Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:18 PM Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! Dear RRSR ji, welcome to the group which i consider an esteemed one owned by an esteemed lady. // the Sun which is the significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th house.// as far as my knowledge goes sun is the significator of soul and moon is life force(spiritual) and mind. // Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is placed in the 7th, the Maraka house.// yes.Jup is the bhukti lord aswell in debilitation in transit. Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya, " RRS Riat " <rrsriat > wrote: > > Dear Gopi Ji, > This is the first time that I am attempting to participate in the group discussion. All > > this while I was always in the silent invisible mode. Here is my two pence > > ...analysis of the chart..... > > 27-10-1965 > 8.41am > Vishakhapatnam( A.P) > India > > 1. The native died at an age of around 44 yrs which would classify as an Madhya > > Ayu. Although Mars is the Lagnesh (and also the 6th lord..i.e. diseases) and > > placed in its own house there are a number of negative factors which weaken the > > life force. First is the presence of the exalted Rahu-Ketu in the 1-7 axis (which is > > also the axis of the Moon Lagna). Rahu-Ketu is in exact conjunction with the > > Moon. Moon is at 11-30 and Ketu is at 11-31. The lagna as well as lagnesh are > > aspected by Rahu as well as Saturn is also Secondly, the Sun which is the > > significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th house. > > 2. Venus as lord of 7th and 12th house is quite potent as a Maraka. Venus is > > placed in the Lagna and very close to Mars, the Lagnesh. > > 3. The dashas that the native had since birth have been Saturn, Mercury, Ketu and > > Venus, all of which have not been very helpful. Saturn as a first class malefic > > aspecting Lagna.....Mercury as lord of the 8th and 11 th houses associating with > > the debilitated Sun......... Ketu conjunct very tightly with the Moon....... and Venus, > > being a Strong Maraka, placed in the Lagna....... .is also the 12th lord. > > 4. Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is placed in the > > 7th, the Maraka house. > > All these factors have not helped the life force. > Further, comments/inputs are welcome. > With all my regards, > > RRSR > > > - > gopalakrishna > jyotish-vidya > Sunday, December 20, 2009 06:57 PM > JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > Dear ones, > this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died of > cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09) .She was in the hospital for a > month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day of > jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as from > moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars the > lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and also > with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign > cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any two > of them. > The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! > TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be noted > along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna....... .Birth data for those who > are interested.27- 10-1965,; 8.41am in visakhapatnam( A.P).india > Love and regards, > gopi. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Dear Manoj ji and others, It is absolutely correct.Sun as atmakarak and as planet for vitality signifies health.That apart when we t ake surya lagna along with other points that contribute as a planet for health,longevity,sun becomes ayushkaraka(kalachakra dasa). For a lady at that age to suffer a chronic disease,almost many planets apart from visionaries has a role.for longevity Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! jyotish-vidya Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 3:04 PM  Dear RRSR Ji, Sun is significator of the Atma not the Body. Being the 5L of the Kalapurusha he is also the natural significator of health. To my knowledge the Lagna Lord and Lagna signify the body and there is no reference in the classics that says Sun signifies the body. Ofcourse I am always open to correction if I am mistaken.  Regards,  -Manoj  ____________ _________ _________ __ RRS Riat <rrsriat (AT) (DOT) co.uk> jyotish-vidya Tue, December 22, 2009 11:29:28 AM Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!!  Dear Gopi ji, Thank you for your comments. I correct my thoughts now.... The Sun is the significator of the body and the Moon of the mind..... With all my regards... RRSR - gopalakrishna jyotish-vidya Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:18 PM Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! Dear RRSR ji, welcome to the group which i consider an esteemed one owned by an esteemed lady. // the Sun which is the significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th house.// as far as my knowledge goes sun is the significator of soul and moon is life force(spiritual) and mind. // Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is placed in the 7th, the Maraka house.// yes.Jup is the bhukti lord aswell in debilitation in transit. Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya, " RRS Riat " <rrsriat > wrote: > > Dear Gopi Ji, > This is the first time that I am attempting to participate in the group discussion. All > > this while I was always in the silent invisible mode. Here is my two pence > > ...analysis of the chart..... > > 27-10-1965 > 8.41am > Vishakhapatnam( A.P) > India > > 1. The native died at an age of around 44 yrs which would classify as an Madhya > > Ayu. Although Mars is the Lagnesh (and also the 6th lord..i.e. diseases) and > > placed in its own house there are a number of negative factors which weaken the > > life force. First is the presence of the exalted Rahu-Ketu in the 1-7 axis (which is > > also the axis of the Moon Lagna). Rahu-Ketu is in exact conjunction with the > > Moon. Moon is at 11-30 and Ketu is at 11-31. The lagna as well as lagnesh are > > aspected by Rahu as well as Saturn is also Secondly, the Sun which is the > > significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th house. > > 2. Venus as lord of 7th and 12th house is quite potent as a Maraka. Venus is > > placed in the Lagna and very close to Mars, the Lagnesh. > > 3. The dashas that the native had since birth have been Saturn, Mercury, Ketu and > > Venus, all of which have not been very helpful. Saturn as a first class malefic > > aspecting Lagna.....Mercury as lord of the 8th and 11 th houses associating with > > the debilitated Sun......... Ketu conjunct very tightly with the Moon....... and Venus, > > being a Strong Maraka, placed in the Lagna....... .is also the 12th lord. > > 4. Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is placed in the > > 7th, the Maraka house. > > All these factors have not helped the life force. > Further, comments/inputs are welcome. > With all my regards, > > RRSR > > > - > gopalakrishna > jyotish-vidya > Sunday, December 20, 2009 06:57 PM > JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > Dear ones, > this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died of > cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09) .She was in the hospital for a > month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day of > jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as from > moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars the > lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and also > with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign > cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any two > of them. > The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! > TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be noted > along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna....... .Birth data for those who > are interested.27- 10-1965,; 8.41am in visakhapatnam( A.P).india > Love and regards, > gopi. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Dear Manoj ji & Krishnan ji, Thank you for your clarification. Also, I did read thru the message of Krishnan ji and his analysis of the horoscope....... I was wondering if cancer of the lungs was indicated by the following explaination ... The 4th house indicative of chest and lungs is occupied by Saturn, a malefic. Saturn (incurable diseases) is aspected by Mars,the 6th lord (lord of diseases). Mars himself associates with Venus /Moon (both watery planets). Saturn is also aspected by Jupiter (Karaka for cancerous growth) and also a phlegmatic planet...from the 8th house ( 8th signifying chronic diseases) I would be grateful, if learned members could check thru this line of thought and give some comments... With all my regards..... RRSR - Vattem Krishnan jyotish-vidya Wednesday, December 23, 2009 07:27 AM Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! Dear Manoj ji and others, It is absolutely correct.Sun as atmakarak and as planet for vitality signifies health.That apart when we t ake surya lagna along with other points that contribute as a planet for health,longevity,sun becomes ayushkaraka(kalachakra dasa). For a lady at that age to suffer a chronic disease,almost many planets apart from visionaries has a role.for longevity Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! jyotish-vidya Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 3:04 PM Dear RRSR Ji, Sun is significator of the Atma not the Body. Being the 5L of the Kalapurusha he is also the natural significator of health. To my knowledge the Lagna Lord and Lagna signify the body and there is no reference in the classics that says Sun signifies the body. Ofcourse I am always open to correction if I am mistaken. Regards, -Manoj ____________ _________ _________ __ RRS Riat <rrsriat (AT) (DOT) co.uk> jyotish-vidya Tue, December 22, 2009 11:29:28 AM Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! Dear Gopi ji, Thank you for your comments. I correct my thoughts now.... The Sun is the significator of the body and the Moon of the mind..... With all my regards... RRSR - gopalakrishna jyotish-vidya Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:18 PM Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! Dear RRSR ji, welcome to the group which i consider an esteemed one owned by an esteemed lady. // the Sun which is the significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th house.// as far as my knowledge goes sun is the significator of soul and moon is life force(spiritual) and mind. // Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is placed in the 7th, the Maraka house.// yes.Jup is the bhukti lord aswell in debilitation in transit. Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya, " RRS Riat " <rrsriat > wrote: > > Dear Gopi Ji, > This is the first time that I am attempting to participate in the group discussion. All > > this while I was always in the silent invisible mode. Here is my two pence > > ...analysis of the chart..... > > 27-10-1965 > 8.41am > Vishakhapatnam( A.P) > India > > 1. The native died at an age of around 44 yrs which would classify as an Madhya > > Ayu. Although Mars is the Lagnesh (and also the 6th lord..i.e. diseases) and > > placed in its own house there are a number of negative factors which weaken the > > life force. First is the presence of the exalted Rahu-Ketu in the 1-7 axis (which is > > also the axis of the Moon Lagna). Rahu-Ketu is in exact conjunction with the > > Moon. Moon is at 11-30 and Ketu is at 11-31. The lagna as well as lagnesh are > > aspected by Rahu as well as Saturn is also Secondly, the Sun which is the > > significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th house. > > 2. Venus as lord of 7th and 12th house is quite potent as a Maraka. Venus is > > placed in the Lagna and very close to Mars, the Lagnesh. > > 3. The dashas that the native had since birth have been Saturn, Mercury, Ketu and > > Venus, all of which have not been very helpful. Saturn as a first class malefic > > aspecting Lagna.....Mercury as lord of the 8th and 11 th houses associating with > > the debilitated Sun......... Ketu conjunct very tightly with the Moon....... and Venus, > > being a Strong Maraka, placed in the Lagna....... .is also the 12th lord. > > 4. Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is placed in the > > 7th, the Maraka house. > > All these factors have not helped the life force. > Further, comments/inputs are welcome. > With all my regards, > > RRSR > > > - > gopalakrishna > jyotish-vidya > Sunday, December 20, 2009 06:57 PM > JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > Dear ones, > this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died of > cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09) .She was in the hospital for a > month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day of > jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as from > moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars the > lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and also > with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign > cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any two > of them. > The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! > TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be noted > along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna....... .Birth data for those who > are interested.27- 10-1965,; 8.41am in visakhapatnam( A.P).india > Love and regards, > gopi. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Hi, You are looking at things logically. I would like to add a couple of more points to your observations: 1. The lady passed away during Ven-Jup period: Note that Venus is 22nd drekkana lord and Jupiter is 64th navamsha lord. Saturn who is in the 4th house (afflicting lungs) also occupies 64th navmsha. 2. Moon is the karaka for lungs. Moon is in exact Rahu-Ketu axis! 3. Jupiter sits in the constellation of Rahu and Rahu sits in the constellation of Moon! 4. Rahu aspects Moon and Jupiter aspects 4H Regards, Krishna On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:22 PM, RRS Riat <rrsriat wrote: > > > Dear Manoj ji & Krishnan ji, > Thank you for your clarification. > > Also, I did read thru the message of Krishnan ji and his analysis of the > horoscope....... > > I was wondering if cancer of the lungs was indicated by the following > explaination ... > > The 4th house indicative of chest and lungs is occupied by Saturn, a > malefic. Saturn (incurable diseases) is aspected by Mars,the 6th lord (lord > of diseases). Mars himself associates with Venus /Moon (both watery > planets). Saturn is also aspected by Jupiter (Karaka for cancerous growth) > and also a phlegmatic planet...from the 8th house ( 8th signifying chronic > diseases) > > I would be grateful, if learned members could check thru this line of > thought and give some comments... > > With all my regards..... > RRSR > > - > Vattem Krishnan > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > Wednesday, December 23, 2009 07:27 AM > Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > Dear Manoj ji and others, > It is absolutely correct.Sun as atmakarak and as planet for vitality > signifies health.That apart when we t ake surya lagna along with other > points that contribute as a planet for health,longevity,sun becomes > ayushkaraka(kalachakra dasa). > For a lady at that age to suffer a chronic disease,almost many planets > apart from visionaries has a role.for longevity > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj<chandran_manoj%40>> > wrote: > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj<chandran_manoj%40> > > > Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 3:04 PM > > Dear RRSR Ji, > > Sun is significator of the Atma not the Body. Being the 5L of the > Kalapurusha he is also the natural significator of health. To my knowledge > the Lagna Lord and Lagna signify the body and there is no reference in the > classics that says Sun signifies the body. Ofcourse I am always open to > correction if I am mistaken. > > Regards, > -Manoj > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > RRS Riat <rrsriat (AT) (DOT) co.uk> > jyotish-vidya > Tue, December 22, 2009 11:29:28 AM > Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > Dear Gopi ji, > Thank you for your comments. > I correct my thoughts now.... The Sun is the significator of the body and > the Moon of the mind..... > With all my regards... > RRSR > > - > gopalakrishna > jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:18 PM > Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > Dear RRSR ji, > welcome to the group which i consider an esteemed one owned by an > esteemed lady. > // the Sun which is the significator of life force is debilitated and > placed in the 12th house.// > as far as my knowledge goes sun is the significator of soul and moon is > life force(spiritual) and mind. > // Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is > placed in the 7th, the Maraka house.// > yes.Jup is the bhukti lord aswell in debilitation in transit. > Love and regards, > gopi. > jyotish-vidya, " RRS Riat " <rrsriat > wrote: > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > This is the first time that I am attempting to participate in the > group discussion. All > > > > this while I was always in the silent invisible mode. Here is my two > pence > > > > ...analysis of the chart..... > > > > 27-10-1965 > > 8.41am > > Vishakhapatnam( A.P) > > India > > > > 1. The native died at an age of around 44 yrs which would classify as > an Madhya > > > > Ayu. Although Mars is the Lagnesh (and also the 6th lord..i.e. > diseases) and > > > > placed in its own house there are a number of negative factors which > weaken the > > > > life force. First is the presence of the exalted Rahu-Ketu in the 1-7 > axis (which is > > > > also the axis of the Moon Lagna). Rahu-Ketu is in exact conjunction > with the > > > > Moon. Moon is at 11-30 and Ketu is at 11-31. The lagna as well as > lagnesh are > > > > aspected by Rahu as well as Saturn is also Secondly, the Sun which is > the > > > > significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th > house. > > > > 2. Venus as lord of 7th and 12th house is quite potent as a Maraka. > Venus is > > > > placed in the Lagna and very close to Mars, the Lagnesh. > > > > 3. The dashas that the native had since birth have been Saturn, > Mercury, Ketu and > > > > Venus, all of which have not been very helpful. Saturn as a first > class malefic > > > > aspecting Lagna.....Mercury as lord of the 8th and 11 th houses > associating with > > > > the debilitated Sun......... Ketu conjunct very tightly with the > Moon....... and Venus, > > > > being a Strong Maraka, placed in the Lagna....... .is also the 12th > lord. > > > > 4. Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is > placed in the > > > > 7th, the Maraka house. > > > > All these factors have not helped the life force. > > Further, comments/inputs are welcome. > > With all my regards, > > > > RRSR > > > > > > - > > gopalakrishna > > jyotish-vidya > > Sunday, December 20, 2009 06:57 PM > > JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > > > > > Dear ones, > > this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died > of > > cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09) .She was in the hospital for > a > > month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day > of > > jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as > from > > moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars > the > > lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and > also > > with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign > > cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any > two > > of them. > > The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! > > TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be > noted > > along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna....... .Birth data for those > who > > are interested.27- 10-1965,; 8.41am in visakhapatnam( A.P).india > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Dear Krishnamurthy ji, Thank you for your inputs. They have clarified the issue to quite an extent. It is incredible how planetary forces weave a link or may I say a web, causing life to ebb away..... Regards..... RRSR - " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58 <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, December 23, 2009 08:38 PM Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > Hi, > > You are looking at things logically. I would like to add a couple of more > points to your observations: > > 1. The lady passed away during Ven-Jup period: Note that Venus is 22nd > drekkana lord and Jupiter is 64th navamsha lord. Saturn who is in the 4th > house (afflicting lungs) also occupies 64th navmsha. > > 2. Moon is the karaka for lungs. Moon is in exact Rahu-Ketu axis! > > 3. Jupiter sits in the constellation of Rahu and Rahu sits in the > constellation of Moon! > > 4. Rahu aspects Moon and Jupiter aspects 4H > > Regards, > Krishna > > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:22 PM, RRS Riat <rrsriat wrote: > >> >> >> Dear Manoj ji & Krishnan ji, >> Thank you for your clarification. >> >> Also, I did read thru the message of Krishnan ji and his analysis of the >> horoscope....... >> >> I was wondering if cancer of the lungs was indicated by the following >> explaination ... >> >> The 4th house indicative of chest and lungs is occupied by Saturn, a >> malefic. Saturn (incurable diseases) is aspected by Mars,the 6th lord >> (lord >> of diseases). Mars himself associates with Venus /Moon (both watery >> planets). Saturn is also aspected by Jupiter (Karaka for cancerous >> growth) >> and also a phlegmatic planet...from the 8th house ( 8th signifying >> chronic >> diseases) >> >> I would be grateful, if learned members could check thru this line of >> thought and give some comments... >> >> With all my regards..... >> RRSR >> >> - >> Vattem Krishnan >> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> >> Wednesday, December 23, 2009 07:27 AM >> Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! >> >> Dear Manoj ji and others, >> It is absolutely correct.Sun as atmakarak and as planet for vitality >> signifies health.That apart when we t ake surya lagna along with other >> points that contribute as a planet for health,longevity,sun becomes >> ayushkaraka(kalachakra dasa). >> For a lady at that age to suffer a chronic disease,almost many planets >> apart from visionaries has a role.for longevity >> >> Vattem Krishnan >> Cyber Jyotish Services >> (For all counseling services) >> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " >> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >> >> >> --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Manoj Chandran >> <chandran_manoj<chandran_manoj%40>> >> wrote: >> >> Manoj Chandran >> <chandran_manoj<chandran_manoj%40> >> > >> Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! >> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> >> Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 3:04 PM >> >> Dear RRSR Ji, >> >> Sun is significator of the Atma not the Body. Being the 5L of the >> Kalapurusha he is also the natural significator of health. To my >> knowledge >> the Lagna Lord and Lagna signify the body and there is no reference in >> the >> classics that says Sun signifies the body. Ofcourse I am always open to >> correction if I am mistaken. >> >> Regards, >> -Manoj >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __ >> RRS Riat <rrsriat (AT) (DOT) co.uk> >> jyotish-vidya >> Tue, December 22, 2009 11:29:28 AM >> Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! >> >> Dear Gopi ji, >> Thank you for your comments. >> I correct my thoughts now.... The Sun is the significator of the body and >> the Moon of the mind..... >> With all my regards... >> RRSR >> >> - >> gopalakrishna >> jyotish-vidya >> Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:18 PM >> Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! >> >> Dear RRSR ji, >> welcome to the group which i consider an esteemed one owned by an >> esteemed lady. >> // the Sun which is the significator of life force is debilitated and >> placed in the 12th house.// >> as far as my knowledge goes sun is the significator of soul and moon is >> life force(spiritual) and mind. >> // Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is >> placed in the 7th, the Maraka house.// >> yes.Jup is the bhukti lord aswell in debilitation in transit. >> Love and regards, >> gopi. >> jyotish-vidya, " RRS Riat " <rrsriat > wrote: >> > >> > Dear Gopi Ji, >> > This is the first time that I am attempting to participate in the >> group discussion. All >> > >> > this while I was always in the silent invisible mode. Here is my two >> pence >> > >> > ...analysis of the chart..... >> > >> > 27-10-1965 >> > 8.41am >> > Vishakhapatnam( A.P) >> > India >> > >> > 1. The native died at an age of around 44 yrs which would classify as >> an Madhya >> > >> > Ayu. Although Mars is the Lagnesh (and also the 6th lord..i.e. >> diseases) and >> > >> > placed in its own house there are a number of negative factors which >> weaken the >> > >> > life force. First is the presence of the exalted Rahu-Ketu in the 1-7 >> axis (which is >> > >> > also the axis of the Moon Lagna). Rahu-Ketu is in exact conjunction >> with the >> > >> > Moon. Moon is at 11-30 and Ketu is at 11-31. The lagna as well as >> lagnesh are >> > >> > aspected by Rahu as well as Saturn is also Secondly, the Sun which is >> the >> > >> > significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th >> house. >> > >> > 2. Venus as lord of 7th and 12th house is quite potent as a Maraka. >> Venus is >> > >> > placed in the Lagna and very close to Mars, the Lagnesh. >> > >> > 3. The dashas that the native had since birth have been Saturn, >> Mercury, Ketu and >> > >> > Venus, all of which have not been very helpful. Saturn as a first >> class malefic >> > >> > aspecting Lagna.....Mercury as lord of the 8th and 11 th houses >> associating with >> > >> > the debilitated Sun......... Ketu conjunct very tightly with the >> Moon....... and Venus, >> > >> > being a Strong Maraka, placed in the Lagna....... .is also the 12th >> lord. >> > >> > 4. Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is >> placed in the >> > >> > 7th, the Maraka house. >> > >> > All these factors have not helped the life force. >> > Further, comments/inputs are welcome. >> > With all my regards, >> > >> > RRSR >> > >> > >> > - >> > gopalakrishna >> > jyotish-vidya >> > Sunday, December 20, 2009 06:57 PM >> > JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! >> > >> > >> > >> > Dear ones, >> > this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died >> of >> > cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09) .She was in the hospital for >> a >> > month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day >> of >> > jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as >> from >> > moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars >> the >> > lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and >> also >> > with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign >> > cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any >> two >> > of them. >> > The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! >> > TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be >> noted >> > along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna....... .Birth data for those >> who >> > are interested.27- 10-1965,; 8.41am in visakhapatnam( A.P).india >> > Love and regards, >> > gopi. >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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