Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Dear Krishna ji, very good and apropriate observation.Infact when i posted i was only concentrating on jup's role both as bhukti lord and in transit.Thanks for proceeding towards (astro)logical end..... Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: > > Hi, > > You are looking at things logically. I would like to add a couple of more > points to your observations: > > 1. The lady passed away during Ven-Jup period: Note that Venus is 22nd > drekkana lord and Jupiter is 64th navamsha lord. Saturn who is in the 4th > house (afflicting lungs) also occupies 64th navmsha. > > 2. Moon is the karaka for lungs. Moon is in exact Rahu-Ketu axis! > > 3. Jupiter sits in the constellation of Rahu and Rahu sits in the > constellation of Moon! > > 4. Rahu aspects Moon and Jupiter aspects 4H > > Regards, > Krishna > > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:22 PM, RRS Riat rrsriat wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji & Krishnan ji, > > Thank you for your clarification. > > > > Also, I did read thru the message of Krishnan ji and his analysis of the > > horoscope....... > > > > I was wondering if cancer of the lungs was indicated by the following > > explaination ... > > > > The 4th house indicative of chest and lungs is occupied by Saturn, a > > malefic. Saturn (incurable diseases) is aspected by Mars,the 6th lord (lord > > of diseases). Mars himself associates with Venus /Moon (both watery > > planets). Saturn is also aspected by Jupiter (Karaka for cancerous growth) > > and also a phlegmatic planet...from the 8th house ( 8th signifying chronic > > diseases) > > > > I would be grateful, if learned members could check thru this line of > > thought and give some comments... > > > > With all my regards..... > > RRSR > > > > - > > Vattem Krishnan > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > > Wednesday, December 23, 2009 07:27 AM > > Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > Dear Manoj ji and others, > > It is absolutely correct.Sun as atmakarak and as planet for vitality > > signifies health.That apart when we t ake surya lagna along with other > > points that contribute as a planet for health,longevity,sun becomes > > ayushkaraka(kalachakra dasa). > > For a lady at that age to suffer a chronic disease,almost many planets > > apart from visionaries has a role.for longevity > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj<chandran_manoj%40>> > > wrote: > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj<chandran_manoj%40> > > > > > Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > > Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 3:04 PM > > > > Dear RRSR Ji, > > > > Sun is significator of the Atma not the Body. Being the 5L of the > > Kalapurusha he is also the natural significator of health. To my knowledge > > the Lagna Lord and Lagna signify the body and there is no reference in the > > classics that says Sun signifies the body. Ofcourse I am always open to > > correction if I am mistaken. > > > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > RRS Riat rrsriat (AT) (DOT) co.uk> > > jyotish-vidya > > Tue, December 22, 2009 11:29:28 AM > > Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > Dear Gopi ji, > > Thank you for your comments. > > I correct my thoughts now.... The Sun is the significator of the body and > > the Moon of the mind..... > > With all my regards... > > RRSR > > > > - > > gopalakrishna > > jyotish-vidya > > Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:18 PM > > Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > Dear RRSR ji, > > welcome to the group which i consider an esteemed one owned by an > > esteemed lady. > > // the Sun which is the significator of life force is debilitated and > > placed in the 12th house.// > > as far as my knowledge goes sun is the significator of soul and moon is > > life force(spiritual) and mind. > > // Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is > > placed in the 7th, the Maraka house.// > > yes.Jup is the bhukti lord aswell in debilitation in transit. > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > jyotish-vidya, " RRS Riat " rrsriat@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > This is the first time that I am attempting to participate in the > > group discussion. All > > > > > > this while I was always in the silent invisible mode. Here is my two > > pence > > > > > > ...analysis of the chart..... > > > > > > 27-10-1965 > > > 8.41am > > > Vishakhapatnam( A.P) > > > India > > > > > > 1. The native died at an age of around 44 yrs which would classify as > > an Madhya > > > > > > Ayu. Although Mars is the Lagnesh (and also the 6th lord..i.e. > > diseases) and > > > > > > placed in its own house there are a number of negative factors which > > weaken the > > > > > > life force. First is the presence of the exalted Rahu-Ketu in the 1-7 > > axis (which is > > > > > > also the axis of the Moon Lagna). Rahu-Ketu is in exact conjunction > > with the > > > > > > Moon. Moon is at 11-30 and Ketu is at 11-31. The lagna as well as > > lagnesh are > > > > > > aspected by Rahu as well as Saturn is also Secondly, the Sun which is > > the > > > > > > significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th > > house. > > > > > > 2. Venus as lord of 7th and 12th house is quite potent as a Maraka. > > Venus is > > > > > > placed in the Lagna and very close to Mars, the Lagnesh. > > > > > > 3. The dashas that the native had since birth have been Saturn, > > Mercury, Ketu and > > > > > > Venus, all of which have not been very helpful. Saturn as a first > > class malefic > > > > > > aspecting Lagna.....Mercury as lord of the 8th and 11 th houses > > associating with > > > > > > the debilitated Sun......... Ketu conjunct very tightly with the > > Moon....... and Venus, > > > > > > being a Strong Maraka, placed in the Lagna....... .is also the 12th > > lord. > > > > > > 4. Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is > > placed in the > > > > > > 7th, the Maraka house. > > > > > > All these factors have not helped the life force. > > > Further, comments/inputs are welcome. > > > With all my regards, > > > > > > RRSR > > > > > > > > > - > > > gopalakrishna > > > jyotish-vidya > > > Sunday, December 20, 2009 06:57 PM > > > JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear ones, > > > this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she died > > of > > > cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09) .She was in the hospital for > > a > > > month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last day > > of > > > jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as > > from > > > moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars > > the > > > lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and > > also > > > with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign > > > cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast any > > two > > > of them. > > > The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! > > > TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be > > noted > > > along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna....... .Birth data for those > > who > > > are interested.27- 10-1965,; 8.41am in visakhapatnam( A.P).india > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Dear friends, Those who have time and interest may cast the following chart and see what could have been happened to this boy on the last day of Jupiter in Capricorn. Oct 14,1994 Time: 12:57PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 New Delhi Longitude: 77E12 Latitude: 28N36 Current Period: Ra/Me/Sa Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear Ravindramani ji, i am getting 23.25 dhanu(sag) lagna.hope it is corect.If you dont mind please give a window(time) for jup's last day in capricorn. Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Those who have time and interest may cast the following chart and see what could have been happened to this boy on the last day of Jupiter in Capricorn. > > Oct 14,1994 > Time: 12:57PM > Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 > New Delhi > Longitude: 77E12 Latitude: 28N36 > > Current Period: Ra/Me/Sa > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear Ravindramani ji, he could have got an opertunity with scholarship to study abroad which has got an element of surprise!!.If it is corect i will explain in detail.... Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote: > > Dear friends, > > Those who have time and interest may cast the following chart and see what could have been happened to this boy on the last day of Jupiter in Capricorn. > > Oct 14,1994 > Time: 12:57PM > Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 > New Delhi > Longitude: 77E12 Latitude: 28N36 > > Current Period: Ra/Me/Sa > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear Gopi ji, You are right. Sagitarius rising with 23:23 and Moon in capricorn 27:43. Unfortunately your conclusion is not correct. I understand your logic for getting scholarship. You would like to take another chance. Precisely, the event took place on 18th December 2009 (Friday) in the evening between 1900 hours to 1920 hours. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Sir, He could have had a major accident but survived at that time.Might have fractured. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Thu, 12/24/09, ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: ravindramani <ravindramani JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! jyotish-vidya Thursday, December 24, 2009, 12:59 AM  Dear friends, Those who have time and interest may cast the following chart and see what could have been happened to this boy on the last day of Jupiter in Capricorn. Oct 14,1994 Time: 12:57PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 New Delhi Longitude: 77E12 Latitude: 28N36 Current Period: Ra/Me/Sa Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear friends, Two learned members of the List got the “event†correctly. Their messages are pasted at the end of the mail. Thank you Gopi ji and others who really spared their time and evinced keen interest in analyzing the chart. I think it is the practice that makes a person perfect. Since each house and each planet represents number of siginifications. Finding a particular human experience at a particular dasha and transit is the real test for the astrologers. The father of the boy is my colleague who has shown me this chart a month ago and asked about the education of the boy and how he would perform in his final examination of this year. The child is a student of 10th standard in Delhi. I said “it seems to me there is a short break in educational activityâ€. I saw the dasha and transit; I just cautioned him “not allow your child to drive any kind of vehicle till the end of this yearâ€. His father said, “my child does not know how to drive even a scooter what to talk of vehicleâ€. On 18.12.2009, the boy met with an accident. A patrolling police van found them unconscious near a ditch near a motorcycle. The police admitted them in the hospital around 1920 hours. His friend (again a 15 year old boy) drove a motor cycle. The native sat behind him. They had to attend the tuition class at that time on the fateful day, they lied their parents and they went for a joy ride instead for the tuition. The boy who had driven the motorcycle is still in hospital. The native got his right side collar bone broken. He was discharged yesterday. He was advised rest for 6 weeks at the first instance. Rahu is in the 11th house of friends and acquaintances. Rahu is the planet of urge with Lagna Lord with close degrees. Saturn the PD lord is in 3rdhouse of movements. Mars aspecting the 3rd lord and 3rd house from the 8th house. Notice their degrees. Mars is the 12th lord of confinement and hospital. Jupiter is the neutral planet for this lagna since he owns the 4th house a Kendra too. As the owner of Lagna he is not becoming a malefic planet. Mars aspecting all the dasha lords. Mars is placed in the house of suddenness. In Navamsa, the Rahu is in 6th house in the sign of Mars. Saturn and Mercury both in third house. Mars influencing from the 12th house. Mercury is the 8th lord with 3rd lord and 4th lord. Jupiter is transiting from the Saturn (PD Lord) in the 12th house over the 8 th lord and influencing the Mars the 12th lord. Jupiter is ruling the Lagna as well as the 4th house of vehicles. Jupiter the Lagna lord is in 11th house. It ensures longevity. Thanks once again learned members for your knowledge and interest. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. *Shri Manoj Chandran wrote to me in private mail.* * * >>>Dear Ravindramani Ji, Here is my observation. I could be way off in my conclusion though Rahu is very strongly influenced by Ju since Ju is both the Rashi dispositor and Nak dispositor and Rahu is quite closely conjunct with Jupiter. Influence of Ma on Rahu is also decent since Ma is Rahu's Navamsha dispoisitor and Mars aspects Rahu in Rashi. Mars also influences both the luminaries, since both Su and Mo are in the Nak of Mars and Mars aspects Moon. Mars is ofcourse the 12L and is debilitated in Transit. Jupiter is both the 64 Nav Lord as well as the 22nd Drekkana Lord, again debilitated in Transit. Mars, the 12L who aspects all the three lords of dasha/antar/pratyantar, namely Ra/Me/Sa in the Rashi. He also aspects the Moon. Mars is transiting his Natal deb 8H postion from the Ascendant. Saturn is transiting Virgo, which is 8H from his Natal position in Rashi. Interestingly the Lagna is at 23 deg 22' which makes the orb from 23 deg to about 28 degree quite sensitive for this boy. On the day of the event Ma was transiting 25 deg 38 minutes and aspecting Natal positions of Rahu, Jupiter, quite closely along with the cusp of the houses he aspects. He also aspects Me and Sa. There was some protection from Lagna Lord Jupiter, even though transiting his deb position, until Ju was so weak on this day. From the above, my guess would be either an accident or a health crisis needing surgery of some kind.>>>> *Shri Krishnan wrote:* >>>Sir, He could have had a major accident but survived at that time. Might have fractured. >>> =============================================== Dear friends, Those who have time and interest may cast the following chart and see what could have been happened to this boy on the last day of Jupiter in Capricorn. Oct 14,1994 Time: 12:57PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 New Delhi Longitude: 77E12 Latitude: 28N36 Current Period: Ra/Me/Sa Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear Manoj ji/Krishnan ji Congratulations for getting it right.I am happy 2 of the colegues from the group are successful.Well done .Please keep it up.... Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " C.S. Ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > Two learned members of the List got the “event†correctly. Their messages > are pasted at the end of the mail. > > > > Thank you Gopi ji and others who really spared their time and evinced keen > interest in analyzing the chart. I think it is the practice that makes a > person perfect. Since each house and each planet represents number of > siginifications. Finding a particular human experience at a particular > dasha and transit is the real test for the astrologers. > > > > The father of the boy is my colleague who has shown me this chart a month > ago and asked about the education of the boy and how he would perform in his > final examination of this year. The child is a student of 10th standard in > Delhi. I said “it seems to me there is a short break in educational > activityâ€. I saw the dasha and transit; I just cautioned him “not allow > your child to drive any kind of vehicle till the end of this yearâ€. His > father said, “my child does not know how to drive even a scooter what to > talk of vehicleâ€. > > > > On 18.12.2009, the boy met with an accident. A patrolling police van found > them unconscious near a ditch near a motorcycle. The police admitted them in > the hospital around 1920 hours. His friend (again a 15 year old boy) drove > a motor cycle. The native sat behind him. They had to attend the tuition > class at that time on the fateful day, they lied their parents and they went > for a joy ride instead for the tuition. The boy who had driven the > motorcycle is still in hospital. The native got his right side collar bone > broken. He was discharged yesterday. He was advised rest for 6 weeks at the > first instance. > > > > Rahu is in the 11th house of friends and acquaintances. Rahu is the planet > of urge with Lagna Lord with close degrees. Saturn the PD lord is in > 3rdhouse of movements. > Mars aspecting the 3rd lord and 3rd house from the 8th house. Notice their > degrees. Mars is the 12th lord of confinement and hospital. Jupiter is > the neutral planet for this lagna since he owns the 4th house a Kendra too. > As the owner of Lagna he is not becoming a malefic planet. Mars aspecting > all the dasha lords. Mars is placed in the house of suddenness. > > > > In Navamsa, the Rahu is in 6th house in the sign of Mars. Saturn and Mercury > both in third house. Mars influencing from the 12th house. Mercury is the > 8th lord with 3rd lord and 4th lord. > > > > Jupiter is transiting from the Saturn (PD Lord) in the 12th house over the 8 > th lord and influencing the Mars the 12th lord. Jupiter is ruling the Lagna > as well as the 4th house of vehicles. > > > > Jupiter the Lagna lord is in 11th house. It ensures longevity. > > > > Thanks once again learned members for your knowledge and interest. > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > *Shri Manoj Chandran wrote to me in private mail.* > > * * > > >>>Dear Ravindramani Ji, Here is my observation. I could be way off in my > conclusion though > > > > Rahu is very strongly influenced by Ju since Ju is both the Rashi dispositor > and Nak dispositor and Rahu is quite closely conjunct with Jupiter. > Influence of Ma on Rahu is also decent since Ma is Rahu's Navamsha > dispoisitor and Mars aspects Rahu in Rashi. Mars also influences both the > luminaries, since both Su and Mo are in the Nak of Mars and Mars aspects > Moon. Mars is ofcourse the 12L and is debilitated in Transit. > > > > Jupiter is both the 64 Nav Lord as well as the 22nd Drekkana Lord, again > debilitated in Transit. Mars, the 12L who aspects all the three lords of > dasha/antar/pratyantar, namely Ra/Me/Sa in the Rashi. He also aspects the > Moon. Mars is transiting his Natal deb 8H postion from the Ascendant. Saturn > is transiting Virgo, which is 8H from his Natal position in Rashi. > Interestingly the Lagna is at 23 deg 22' which makes the orb from 23 deg to > about 28 degree quite sensitive for this boy. On the day of the event Ma was > transiting 25 deg 38 minutes and aspecting Natal positions of Rahu, Jupiter, > quite closely along with the cusp of the houses he aspects. He also aspects > Me and Sa. There was some protection from Lagna Lord Jupiter, even though > transiting his deb position, until Ju was so weak on this day. > > > > From the above, my guess would be either an accident or a health crisis > needing surgery of some kind.>>>*Shri Krishnan wrote:* > > > > >>>Sir, He could have had a major accident but survived at that time. Might > have fractured. >>> > > =============================================== > > > > > Dear friends, > > Those who have time and interest may cast the following chart and see what > could have been happened to this boy on the last day of Jupiter in > Capricorn. > > Oct 14,1994 > Time: 12:57PM > Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 > New Delhi > Longitude: 77E12 Latitude: 28N36 > > Current Period: Ra/Me/Sa > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear Gopi Ji, Thank you. As you know I am still very much a student and thanks to the generous sharing of experienced Jyotishis on forums such as this, learning happens one chart at a time. I wish to share that I have learnt quite a bit from your sharings as well. Thanks to Ravindramani for the opportunity for this exercise and to Mrs Wendy and Uttara Ji for this forum's activities. It is Christmas Eve in Arizona today, Wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.  Regards,  -Manoj  ________________________________ gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 jyotish-vidya Thu, December 24, 2009 8:25:10 AM Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!!  Dear Manoj ji/Krishnan ji Congratulations for getting it right.I am happy 2 of the colegues from the group are successful.Well done .Please keep it up.... Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya, " C.S. Ravindramani " <ravindramani@ ...> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > Two learned members of the List got the “event†correctly. Their messages > are pasted at the end of the mail. > > > > Thank you Gopi ji and others who really spared their time and evinced keen > interest in analyzing the chart. I think it is the practice that makes a > person perfect. Since each house and each planet represents number of > siginifications. Finding a particular human experience at a particular > dasha and transit is the real test for the astrologers. > > > > The father of the boy is my colleague who has shown me this chart a month > ago and asked about the education of the boy and how he would perform in his > final examination of this year. The child is a student of 10th standard in > Delhi. I said “it seems to me there is a short break in educational > activityâ€. I saw the dasha and transit; I just cautioned him “not allow > your child to drive any kind of vehicle till the end of this yearâ€. His > father said, “my child does not know how to drive even a scooter what to > talk of vehicleâ€. > > > > On 18.12.2009, the boy met with an accident. A patrolling police van found > them unconscious near a ditch near a motorcycle. The police admitted them in > the hospital around 1920 hours. His friend (again a 15 year old boy) drove > a motor cycle. The native sat behind him. They had to attend the tuition > class at that time on the fateful day, they lied their parents and they went > for a joy ride instead for the tuition. The boy who had driven the > motorcycle is still in hospital. The native got his right side collar bone > broken. He was discharged yesterday. He was advised rest for 6 weeks at the > first instance. > > > > Rahu is in the 11th house of friends and acquaintances. Rahu is the planet > of urge with Lagna Lord with close degrees. Saturn the PD lord is in > 3rdhouse of movements. > Mars aspecting the 3rd lord and 3rd house from the 8th house. Notice their > degrees. Mars is the 12th lord of confinement and hospital. Jupiter is > the neutral planet for this lagna since he owns the 4th house a Kendra too. > As the owner of Lagna he is not becoming a malefic planet. Mars aspecting > all the dasha lords. Mars is placed in the house of suddenness. > > > > In Navamsa, the Rahu is in 6th house in the sign of Mars. Saturn and Mercury > both in third house. Mars influencing from the 12th house. Mercury is the > 8th lord with 3rd lord and 4th lord. > > > > Jupiter is transiting from the Saturn (PD Lord) in the 12th house over the 8 > th lord and influencing the Mars the 12th lord. Jupiter is ruling the Lagna > as well as the 4th house of vehicles. > > > > Jupiter the Lagna lord is in 11th house. It ensures longevity. > > > > Thanks once again learned members for your knowledge and interest. > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > *Shri Manoj Chandran wrote to me in private mail.* > > * * > > >>>Dear Ravindramani Ji, Here is my observation. I could be way off in my > conclusion though > > > > Rahu is very strongly influenced by Ju since Ju is both the Rashi dispositor > and Nak dispositor and Rahu is quite closely conjunct with Jupiter. > Influence of Ma on Rahu is also decent since Ma is Rahu's Navamsha > dispoisitor and Mars aspects Rahu in Rashi. Mars also influences both the > luminaries, since both Su and Mo are in the Nak of Mars and Mars aspects > Moon. Mars is ofcourse the 12L and is debilitated in Transit. > > > > Jupiter is both the 64 Nav Lord as well as the 22nd Drekkana Lord, again > debilitated in Transit. Mars, the 12L who aspects all the three lords of > dasha/antar/ pratyantar, namely Ra/Me/Sa in the Rashi. He also aspects the > Moon. Mars is transiting his Natal deb 8H postion from the Ascendant. Saturn > is transiting Virgo, which is 8H from his Natal position in Rashi. > Interestingly the Lagna is at 23 deg 22' which makes the orb from 23 deg to > about 28 degree quite sensitive for this boy. On the day of the event Ma was > transiting 25 deg 38 minutes and aspecting Natal positions of Rahu, Jupiter, > quite closely along with the cusp of the houses he aspects. He also aspects > Me and Sa. There was some protection from Lagna Lord Jupiter, even though > transiting his deb position, until Ju was so weak on this day. > > > > From the above, my guess would be either an accident or a health crisis > needing surgery of some kind.>>>*Shri Krishnan wrote:* > > > > >>>Sir, He could have had a major accident but survived at that time. Might > have fractured. >>> > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ======== > > > > > Dear friends, > > Those who have time and interest may cast the following chart and see what > could have been happened to this boy on the last day of Jupiter in > Capricorn. > > Oct 14,1994 > Time: 12:57PM > Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 > New Delhi > Longitude: 77E12 Latitude: 28N36 > > Current Period: Ra/Me/Sa > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear Manoj ji, //As you know I am still very much a student//That's why you did not post in the group?!! as you also know i am forever a student and thanks for your humility.Wish you and your family a very happy Christmas. Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > Thank you. As you know I am still very much a student and thanks to the generous sharing of experienced Jyotishis on forums such as this, learning happens one chart at a time. I wish to share that I have learnt quite a bit from your sharings as well. > > Thanks to Ravindramani for the opportunity for this exercise and to Mrs Wendy and Uttara Ji for this forum's activities. > > It is Christmas Eve in Arizona today, Wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > jyotish-vidya > Thu, December 24, 2009 8:25:10 AM > Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > >  > Dear Manoj ji/Krishnan ji > Congratulations for getting it right.I am happy 2 of the colegues from > the group are successful.Well done .Please keep it up.... > Love and regards, > gopi. > jyotish-vidya, " C.S. Ravindramani " > <ravindramani@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > Two learned members of the List got the “event†> correctly. Their messages > > are pasted at the end of the mail. > > > > > > > > Thank you Gopi ji and others who really spared their time and evinced > keen > > interest in analyzing the chart. I think it is the practice that > makes a > > person perfect. Since each house and each planet represents number of > > siginifications. Finding a particular human experience at a > particular > > dasha and transit is the real test for the astrologers. > > > > > > > > The father of the boy is my colleague who has shown me this chart a > month > > ago and asked about the education of the boy and how he would perform > in his > > final examination of this year. The child is a student of 10th > standard in > > Delhi. I said “it seems to me there is a short break in > educational > > activityâ€. I saw the dasha and transit; I just cautioned him > “not allow > > your child to drive any kind of vehicle till the end of this > yearâ€. His > > father said, “my child does not know how to drive even a > scooter what to > > talk of vehicleâ€. > > > > > > > > On 18.12.2009, the boy met with an accident. A patrolling police van > found > > them unconscious near a ditch near a motorcycle. The police admitted > them in > > the hospital around 1920 hours. His friend (again a 15 year old boy) > drove > > a motor cycle. The native sat behind him. They had to attend the > tuition > > class at that time on the fateful day, they lied their parents and > they went > > for a joy ride instead for the tuition. The boy who had driven the > > motorcycle is still in hospital. The native got his right side collar > bone > > broken. He was discharged yesterday. He was advised rest for 6 weeks > at the > > first instance. > > > > > > > > Rahu is in the 11th house of friends and acquaintances. Rahu is the > planet > > of urge with Lagna Lord with close degrees. Saturn the PD lord is in > > 3rdhouse of movements. > > Mars aspecting the 3rd lord and 3rd house from the 8th house. Notice > their > > degrees. Mars is the 12th lord of confinement and hospital. Jupiter > is > > the neutral planet for this lagna since he owns the 4th house a Kendra > too. > > As the owner of Lagna he is not becoming a malefic planet. Mars > aspecting > > all the dasha lords. Mars is placed in the house of suddenness. > > > > > > > > In Navamsa, the Rahu is in 6th house in the sign of Mars. Saturn and > Mercury > > both in third house. Mars influencing from the 12th house. Mercury > is the > > 8th lord with 3rd lord and 4th lord. > > > > > > > > Jupiter is transiting from the Saturn (PD Lord) in the 12th house over > the 8 > > th lord and influencing the Mars the 12th lord. Jupiter is ruling the > Lagna > > as well as the 4th house of vehicles. > > > > > > > > Jupiter the Lagna lord is in 11th house. It ensures longevity. > > > > > > > > Thanks once again learned members for your knowledge and interest. > > > > > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Shri Manoj Chandran wrote to me in private mail.* > > > > * * > > > > >>>Dear Ravindramani Ji, Here is my observation. I could be way off > in my > > conclusion though > > > > > > > > Rahu is very strongly influenced by Ju since Ju is both the Rashi > dispositor > > and Nak dispositor and Rahu is quite closely conjunct with Jupiter. > > Influence of Ma on Rahu is also decent since Ma is Rahu's Navamsha > > dispoisitor and Mars aspects Rahu in Rashi. Mars also influences both > the > > luminaries, since both Su and Mo are in the Nak of Mars and Mars > aspects > > Moon. Mars is ofcourse the 12L and is debilitated in Transit. > > > > > > > > Jupiter is both the 64 Nav Lord as well as the 22nd Drekkana Lord, > again > > debilitated in Transit. Mars, the 12L who aspects all the three lords > of > > dasha/antar/ pratyantar, namely Ra/Me/Sa in the Rashi. He also aspects > the > > Moon. Mars is transiting his Natal deb 8H postion from the Ascendant. > Saturn > > is transiting Virgo, which is 8H from his Natal position in Rashi. > > Interestingly the Lagna is at 23 deg 22' which makes the orb from 23 > deg to > > about 28 degree quite sensitive for this boy. On the day of the event > Ma was > > transiting 25 deg 38 minutes and aspecting Natal positions of Rahu, > Jupiter, > > quite closely along with the cusp of the houses he aspects. He also > aspects > > Me and Sa. There was some protection from Lagna Lord Jupiter, even > though > > transiting his deb position, until Ju was so weak on this day. > > > > > > > > From the above, my guess would be either an accident or a health > crisis > > needing surgery of some kind.>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > *Shri Krishnan wrote:* > > > > > > > > >>>Sir, He could have had a major accident but survived at that time. > Might > > have fractured. >>> > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ======== > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Those who have time and interest may cast the following chart and see > what > > could have been happened to this boy on the last day of Jupiter in > > Capricorn. > > > > Oct 14,1994 > > Time: 12:57PM > > Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 > > New Delhi > > Longitude: 77E12 Latitude: 28N36 > > > > Current Period: Ra/Me/Sa > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear Gopi Ji, Thanks for your wishes. Well I am never afraid of being wrong so that did not stop me for posting in the Group. I only learn by making mistakes and I make a lot of them !!!  The real reason was since Ravindramani's comment was directed towards you, I thought it may be " rude " to " intrude " and hence sent the email private.  Regards,  -Manoj  ________________________________ gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 jyotish-vidya Thu, December 24, 2009 10:36:23 AM Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!!  Dear Manoj ji, //As you know I am still very much a student//That' s why you did not post in the group?!! as you also know i am forever a student and thanks for your humility.Wish you and your family a very happy Christmas. Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > Thank you. As you know I am still very much a student and thanks to the generous sharing of experienced Jyotishis on forums such as this, learning happens one chart at a time. I wish to share that I have learnt quite a bit from your sharings as well. > > Thanks to Ravindramani for the opportunity for this exercise and to Mrs Wendy and Uttara Ji for this forum's activities. > > It is Christmas Eve in Arizona today, Wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. . > jyotish-vidya > Thu, December 24, 2009 8:25:10 AM > Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > >  > Dear Manoj ji/Krishnan ji > Congratulations for getting it right.I am happy 2 of the colegues from > the group are successful.Well done .Please keep it up.... > Love and regards, > gopi. > jyotish-vidya, " C.S. Ravindramani " > <ravindramani@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > Two learned members of the List got the “eventâ€� > correctly. Their messages > > are pasted at the end of the mail. > > > > > > > > Thank you Gopi ji and others who really spared their time and evinced > keen > > interest in analyzing the chart. I think it is the practice that > makes a > > person perfect. Since each house and each planet represents number of > > siginifications. Finding a particular human experience at a > particular > > dasha and transit is the real test for the astrologers. > > > > > > > > The father of the boy is my colleague who has shown me this chart a > month > > ago and asked about the education of the boy and how he would perform > in his > > final examination of this year. The child is a student of 10th > standard in > > Delhi. I said “it seems to me there is a short break in > educational > > activityâ€�. I saw the dasha and transit; I just cautioned him > “not allow > > your child to drive any kind of vehicle till the end of this > yearâ€�. His > > father said, “my child does not know how to drive even a > scooter what to > > talk of vehicleâ€�. > > > > > > > > On 18.12.2009, the boy met with an accident. A patrolling police van > found > > them unconscious near a ditch near a motorcycle. The police admitted > them in > > the hospital around 1920 hours. His friend (again a 15 year old boy) > drove > > a motor cycle. The native sat behind him. They had to attend the > tuition > > class at that time on the fateful day, they lied their parents and > they went > > for a joy ride instead for the tuition. The boy who had driven the > > motorcycle is still in hospital. The native got his right side collar > bone > > broken. He was discharged yesterday. He was advised rest for 6 weeks > at the > > first instance. > > > > > > > > Rahu is in the 11th house of friends and acquaintances. Rahu is the > planet > > of urge with Lagna Lord with close degrees. Saturn the PD lord is in > > 3rdhouse of movements. > > Mars aspecting the 3rd lord and 3rd house from the 8th house. Notice > their > > degrees. Mars is the 12th lord of confinement and hospital. Jupiter > is > > the neutral planet for this lagna since he owns the 4th house a Kendra > too. > > As the owner of Lagna he is not becoming a malefic planet. Mars > aspecting > > all the dasha lords. Mars is placed in the house of suddenness. > > > > > > > > In Navamsa, the Rahu is in 6th house in the sign of Mars. Saturn and > Mercury > > both in third house. Mars influencing from the 12th house. Mercury > is the > > 8th lord with 3rd lord and 4th lord. > > > > > > > > Jupiter is transiting from the Saturn (PD Lord) in the 12th house over > the 8 > > th lord and influencing the Mars the 12th lord. Jupiter is ruling the > Lagna > > as well as the 4th house of vehicles. > > > > > > > > Jupiter the Lagna lord is in 11th house. It ensures longevity. > > > > > > > > Thanks once again learned members for your knowledge and interest. > > > > > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Shri Manoj Chandran wrote to me in private mail.* > > > > * * > > > > >>>Dear Ravindramani Ji, Here is my observation. I could be way off > in my > > conclusion though > > > > > > > > Rahu is very strongly influenced by Ju since Ju is both the Rashi > dispositor > > and Nak dispositor and Rahu is quite closely conjunct with Jupiter. > > Influence of Ma on Rahu is also decent since Ma is Rahu's Navamsha > > dispoisitor and Mars aspects Rahu in Rashi. Mars also influences both > the > > luminaries, since both Su and Mo are in the Nak of Mars and Mars > aspects > > Moon. Mars is ofcourse the 12L and is debilitated in Transit. > > > > > > > > Jupiter is both the 64 Nav Lord as well as the 22nd Drekkana Lord, > again > > debilitated in Transit. Mars, the 12L who aspects all the three lords > of > > dasha/antar/ pratyantar, namely Ra/Me/Sa in the Rashi. He also aspects > the > > Moon. Mars is transiting his Natal deb 8H postion from the Ascendant. > Saturn > > is transiting Virgo, which is 8H from his Natal position in Rashi. > > Interestingly the Lagna is at 23 deg 22' which makes the orb from 23 > deg to > > about 28 degree quite sensitive for this boy. On the day of the event > Ma was > > transiting 25 deg 38 minutes and aspecting Natal positions of Rahu, > Jupiter, > > quite closely along with the cusp of the houses he aspects. He also > aspects > > Me and Sa. There was some protection from Lagna Lord Jupiter, even > though > > transiting his deb position, until Ju was so weak on this day. > > > > > > > > From the above, my guess would be either an accident or a health > crisis > > needing surgery of some kind.>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > *Shri Krishnan wrote:* > > > > > > > > >>>Sir, He could have had a major accident but survived at that time. > Might > > have fractured. >>> > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ======== > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Those who have time and interest may cast the following chart and see > what > > could have been happened to this boy on the last day of Jupiter in > > Capricorn. > > > > Oct 14,1994 > > Time: 12:57PM > > Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 > > New Delhi > > Longitude: 77E12 Latitude: 28N36 > > > > Current Period: Ra/Me/Sa > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Thanks for your feedback Gopi garu! Regards, Krishna On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:55 AM, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote: > > > Dear Krishna ji, > very good and apropriate observation.Infact when i posted i was only > concentrating on jup's role both as bhukti lord and in transit.Thanks > for proceeding towards (astro)logical end..... > Love and regards, > gopi. > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <kmurthys58 wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > You are looking at things logically. I would like to add a couple of > more > > points to your observations: > > > > 1. The lady passed away during Ven-Jup period: Note that Venus is 22nd > > drekkana lord and Jupiter is 64th navamsha lord. Saturn who is in the > 4th > > house (afflicting lungs) also occupies 64th navmsha. > > > > 2. Moon is the karaka for lungs. Moon is in exact Rahu-Ketu axis! > > > > 3. Jupiter sits in the constellation of Rahu and Rahu sits in the > > constellation of Moon! > > > > 4. Rahu aspects Moon and Jupiter aspects 4H > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:22 PM, RRS Riat rrsriat wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji & Krishnan ji, > > > Thank you for your clarification. > > > > > > Also, I did read thru the message of Krishnan ji and his analysis of > the > > > horoscope....... > > > > > > I was wondering if cancer of the lungs was indicated by the > following > > > explaination ... > > > > > > The 4th house indicative of chest and lungs is occupied by Saturn, a > > > malefic. Saturn (incurable diseases) is aspected by Mars,the 6th > lord (lord > > > of diseases). Mars himself associates with Venus /Moon (both watery > > > planets). Saturn is also aspected by Jupiter (Karaka for cancerous > growth) > > > and also a phlegmatic planet...from the 8th house ( 8th signifying > chronic > > > diseases) > > > > > > I would be grateful, if learned members could check thru this line > of > > > thought and give some comments... > > > > > > With all my regards..... > > > RRSR > > > > > > - > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40><jyotish-vidya% > 40> > > > Wednesday, December 23, 2009 07:27 AM > > > Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji and others, > > > It is absolutely correct.Sun as atmakarak and as planet for vitality > > > signifies health.That apart when we t ake surya lagna along with > other > > > points that contribute as a planet for health,longevity,sun becomes > > > ayushkaraka(kalachakra dasa). > > > For a lady at that age to suffer a chronic disease,almost many > planets > > > apart from visionaries has a role.for longevity > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Manoj Chandran > chandran_manoj<chandran_manoj%40>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj<chandran_manoj%40> > > > > > > > > Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40><jyotish-vidya% > 40> > > > > Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 3:04 PM > > > > > > Dear RRSR Ji, > > > > > > Sun is significator of the Atma not the Body. Being the 5L of the > > > Kalapurusha he is also the natural significator of health. To my > knowledge > > > the Lagna Lord and Lagna signify the body and there is no reference > in the > > > classics that says Sun signifies the body. Ofcourse I am always open > to > > > correction if I am mistaken. > > > > > > Regards, > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > RRS Riat rrsriat (AT) (DOT) co.uk> > > > jyotish-vidya > > > Tue, December 22, 2009 11:29:28 AM > > > Re: Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > > > Dear Gopi ji, > > > Thank you for your comments. > > > I correct my thoughts now.... The Sun is the significator of the > body and > > > the Moon of the mind..... > > > With all my regards... > > > RRSR > > > > > > - > > > gopalakrishna > > > jyotish-vidya > > > Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:18 PM > > > Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > > > Dear RRSR ji, > > > welcome to the group which i consider an esteemed one owned by an > > > esteemed lady. > > > // the Sun which is the significator of life force is debilitated > and > > > placed in the 12th house.// > > > as far as my knowledge goes sun is the significator of soul and moon > is > > > life force(spiritual) and mind. > > > // Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu is > > > placed in the 7th, the Maraka house.// > > > yes.Jup is the bhukti lord aswell in debilitation in transit. > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > jyotish-vidya, " RRS Riat " rrsriat@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > This is the first time that I am attempting to participate in the > > > group discussion. All > > > > > > > > this while I was always in the silent invisible mode. Here is my > two > > > pence > > > > > > > > ...analysis of the chart..... > > > > > > > > 27-10-1965 > > > > 8.41am > > > > Vishakhapatnam( A.P) > > > > India > > > > > > > > 1. The native died at an age of around 44 yrs which would classify > as > > > an Madhya > > > > > > > > Ayu. Although Mars is the Lagnesh (and also the 6th lord..i.e. > > > diseases) and > > > > > > > > placed in its own house there are a number of negative factors > which > > > weaken the > > > > > > > > life force. First is the presence of the exalted Rahu-Ketu in the > 1-7 > > > axis (which is > > > > > > > > also the axis of the Moon Lagna). Rahu-Ketu is in exact > conjunction > > > with the > > > > > > > > Moon. Moon is at 11-30 and Ketu is at 11-31. The lagna as well as > > > lagnesh are > > > > > > > > aspected by Rahu as well as Saturn is also Secondly, the Sun which > is > > > the > > > > > > > > significator of life force is debilitated and placed in the 12th > > > house. > > > > > > > > 2. Venus as lord of 7th and 12th house is quite potent as a > Maraka. > > > Venus is > > > > > > > > placed in the Lagna and very close to Mars, the Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > 3. The dashas that the native had since birth have been Saturn, > > > Mercury, Ketu and > > > > > > > > Venus, all of which have not been very helpful. Saturn as a first > > > class malefic > > > > > > > > aspecting Lagna.....Mercury as lord of the 8th and 11 th houses > > > associating with > > > > > > > > the debilitated Sun......... Ketu conjunct very tightly with the > > > Moon....... and Venus, > > > > > > > > being a Strong Maraka, placed in the Lagna....... .is also the > 12th > > > lord. > > > > > > > > 4. Note that Jupiter is placed in the Nakshaktra of Rahu and Rahu > is > > > placed in the > > > > > > > > 7th, the Maraka house. > > > > > > > > All these factors have not helped the life force. > > > > Further, comments/inputs are welcome. > > > > With all my regards, > > > > > > > > RRSR > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > gopalakrishna > > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > Sunday, December 20, 2009 06:57 PM > > > > JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear ones, > > > > this chart belongs to a female and just now i got the news she > died > > > of > > > > cancer yesterday around5.30 am(19-12-09) .She was in the hospital > for > > > a > > > > month or so.Immediately it struck me that yesterday was the last > day > > > of > > > > jup's sojourn in capr.Jup is maraka 2ndL for the lagna as well as > > > from > > > > moon in lagna deb as well.Jup® in 8thH of longevity asp by Mars > > > the > > > > lagna and 6thL of disease in lagna with another maraka Venus and > > > also > > > > with Ketu.I also found in many charts who got cancer the sign > > > > cancer,moon along with 6th lord are aflicted if not all atleast > any > > > two > > > > of them. > > > > The dasa is ven-jup -Rahu all capable of killing!! > > > > TR jup in the naks of naidhana(death) in 3rd aspg 3rdL is to be > > > noted > > > > along with moon and Maraka ven in lagna....... .Birth data for > those > > > who > > > > are interested.27- 10-1965,; 8.41am in visakhapatnam( A.P).india > > > > Love and regards, > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear Manoj ji, good to know the reason.My curiosity only asked the question.Thanks for the answer.I know you are a gentleman.Hence i could freely ask. //I thought it may be " rude " to " intrude " and hence sent the email private.// There is no such thing as RUDE/INTRUDE etc for me since we are all members here and every one has got same rights or whatever i believe which includes expression.Atleast in my case you dont have to think like that..... Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > Thanks for your wishes. Well I am never afraid of being wrong so that did not stop me for posting in the Group. I only learn by making mistakes and I make a lot of them !!! > >  The real reason was since Ravindramani's comment was directed towards you, I thought it may be " rude " to " intrude " and hence sent the email private. >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > jyotish-vidya > Thu, December 24, 2009 10:36:23 AM > Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > >  > Dear Manoj ji, > //As you know I am still very much a student//That' s why you did not > post in the group?!! > as you also know i am forever a student and thanks for your > humility.Wish you and your family a very happy Christmas. > Love and regards, > gopi. > jyotish-vidya, Manoj Chandran > <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > Thank you. As you know I am still very much a student and thanks to > the generous sharing of experienced Jyotishis on forums such as this, > learning happens one chart at a time. I wish to share that I have > learnt quite a bit from your sharings as well. > > > > Thanks to Ravindramani for the opportunity for this exercise and to > Mrs Wendy and Uttara Ji for this forum's activities. > > > > It is Christmas Eve in Arizona today, Wish you all a Merry Christmas > and a Happy New Year. > >  > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ . > > jyotish-vidya > > Thu, December 24, 2009 8:25:10 AM > > Re: JUP'S PARTING BLOW?!! > > > >  > > Dear Manoj ji/Krishnan ji > > Congratulations for getting it right.I am happy 2 of the colegues from > > the group are successful.Well done .Please keep it up.... > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > jyotish-vidya, " C.S. Ravindramani " > > <ravindramani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Two learned members of the List got the  " eventâ€� > > correctly. Their messages > > > are pasted at the end of the mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Gopi ji and others who really spared their time and > evinced > > keen > > > interest in analyzing the chart. I think it is the practice that > > makes a > > > person perfect. Since each house and each planet represents number > of > > > siginifications. Finding a particular human experience at a > > particular > > > dasha and transit is the real test for the astrologers. > > > > > > > > > > > > The father of the boy is my colleague who has shown me this chart a > > month > > > ago and asked about the education of the boy and how he would > perform > > in his > > > final examination of this year. The child is a student of 10th > > standard in > > > Delhi. I said  " it seems to me there is a short break in > > educational > > > activityâ€�. I saw the dasha and transit; I just cautioned him > >  " not allow > > > your child to drive any kind of vehicle till the end of this > > yearâ€�. His > > > father said,  " my child does not know how to drive even a > > scooter what to > > > talk of vehicleâ€�. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 18.12.2009, the boy met with an accident. A patrolling police van > > found > > > them unconscious near a ditch near a motorcycle. The police admitted > > them in > > > the hospital around 1920 hours. His friend (again a 15 year old boy) > > drove > > > a motor cycle. The native sat behind him. They had to attend the > > tuition > > > class at that time on the fateful day, they lied their parents and > > they went > > > for a joy ride instead for the tuition. The boy who had driven the > > > motorcycle is still in hospital. The native got his right side > collar > > bone > > > broken. He was discharged yesterday. He was advised rest for 6 weeks > > at the > > > first instance. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is in the 11th house of friends and acquaintances. Rahu is the > > planet > > > of urge with Lagna Lord with close degrees. Saturn the PD lord is in > > > 3rdhouse of movements. > > > Mars aspecting the 3rd lord and 3rd house from the 8th house. Notice > > their > > > degrees. Mars is the 12th lord of confinement and hospital. Jupiter > > is > > > the neutral planet for this lagna since he owns the 4th house a > Kendra > > too. > > > As the owner of Lagna he is not becoming a malefic planet. Mars > > aspecting > > > all the dasha lords. Mars is placed in the house of suddenness. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Navamsa, the Rahu is in 6th house in the sign of Mars. Saturn and > > Mercury > > > both in third house. Mars influencing from the 12th house. Mercury > > is the > > > 8th lord with 3rd lord and 4th lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is transiting from the Saturn (PD Lord) in the 12th house > over > > the 8 > > > th lord and influencing the Mars the 12th lord. Jupiter is ruling > the > > Lagna > > > as well as the 4th house of vehicles. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter the Lagna lord is in 11th house. It ensures longevity. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks once again learned members for your knowledge and interest. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Shri Manoj Chandran wrote to me in private mail.* > > > > > > * * > > > > > > >>>Dear Ravindramani Ji, Here is my observation. I could be way off > > in my > > > conclusion though > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is very strongly influenced by Ju since Ju is both the Rashi > > dispositor > > > and Nak dispositor and Rahu is quite closely conjunct with Jupiter. > > > Influence of Ma on Rahu is also decent since Ma is Rahu's Navamsha > > > dispoisitor and Mars aspects Rahu in Rashi. Mars also influences > both > > the > > > luminaries, since both Su and Mo are in the Nak of Mars and Mars > > aspects > > > Moon. Mars is ofcourse the 12L and is debilitated in Transit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is both the 64 Nav Lord as well as the 22nd Drekkana Lord, > > again > > > debilitated in Transit. Mars, the 12L who aspects all the three > lords > > of > > > dasha/antar/ pratyantar, namely Ra/Me/Sa in the Rashi. He also > aspects > > the > > > Moon. Mars is transiting his Natal deb 8H postion from the > Ascendant. > > Saturn > > > is transiting Virgo, which is 8H from his Natal position in Rashi. > > > Interestingly the Lagna is at 23 deg 22' which makes the orb from 23 > > deg to > > > about 28 degree quite sensitive for this boy. On the day of the > event > > Ma was > > > transiting 25 deg 38 minutes and aspecting Natal positions of Rahu, > > Jupiter, > > > quite closely along with the cusp of the houses he aspects. He also > > aspects > > > Me and Sa. There was some protection from Lagna Lord Jupiter, even > > though > > > transiting his deb position, until Ju was so weak on this day. > > > > > > > > > > > > From the above, my guess would be either an accident or a health > > crisis > > > needing surgery of some kind.>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Shri Krishnan wrote:* > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>Sir, He could have had a major accident but survived at that > time. > > Might > > > have fractured. >>> > > > > > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Those who have time and interest may cast the following chart and > see > > what > > > could have been happened to this boy on the last day of Jupiter in > > > Capricorn. > > > > > > Oct 14,1994 > > > Time: 12:57PM > > > Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 > > > New Delhi > > > Longitude: 77E12 Latitude: 28N36 > > > > > > Current Period: Ra/Me/Sa > > > > > > Regards, C.S. 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Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear Ravindramani ji, // Finding a particular human experience at a particular dasha and transit is the real test for the astrologers.// yes i agree with you. // Thank you Gopi ji and others who really spared their time and evinced keen > interest in analyzing the chart. // infact i did not have time to take a 2nd look at it and you came fast and anounced the event.Its o.k. Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " C.S. Ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > Two learned members of the List got the “event†correctly. Their messages > are pasted at the end of the mail. > > > > Thank you Gopi ji and others who really spared their time and evinced keen > interest in analyzing the chart. Finding a particular human experience at a particular dasha and transit is the real test for the astrologers.I think it is the practice that makes a > person perfect. Since each house and each planet represents number of > siginifications. Finding a particular human experience at a particular > dasha and transit is the real test for the astrologers. > > > > The father of the boy is my colleague who has shown me this chart a month > ago and asked about the education of the boy and how he would perform in his > final examination of this year. The child is a student of 10th standard in > Delhi. I said “it seems to me there is a short break in educational > activityâ€. I saw the dasha and transit; I just cautioned him “not allow > your child to drive any kind of vehicle till the end of this yearâ€. His > father said, “my child does not know how to drive even a scooter what to > talk of vehicleâ€. > > > > On 18.12.2009, the boy met with an accident. A patrolling police van found > them unconscious near a ditch near a motorcycle. The police admitted them in > the hospital around 1920 hours. His friend (again a 15 year old boy) drove > a motor cycle. The native sat behind him. They had to attend the tuition > class at that time on the fateful day, they lied their parents and they went > for a joy ride instead for the tuition. The boy who had driven the > motorcycle is still in hospital. The native got his right side collar bone > broken. He was discharged yesterday. He was advised rest for 6 weeks at the > first instance. > > > > Rahu is in the 11th house of friends and acquaintances. Rahu is the planet > of urge with Lagna Lord with close degrees. Saturn the PD lord is in > 3rdhouse of movements. > Mars aspecting the 3rd lord and 3rd house from the 8th house. Notice their > degrees. Mars is the 12th lord of confinement and hospital. Jupiter is > the neutral planet for this lagna since he owns the 4th house a Kendra too. > As the owner of Lagna he is not becoming a malefic planet. Mars aspecting > all the dasha lords. Mars is placed in the house of suddenness. > > > > In Navamsa, the Rahu is in 6th house in the sign of Mars. Saturn and Mercury > both in third house. Mars influencing from the 12th house. Mercury is the > 8th lord with 3rd lord and 4th lord. > > > > Jupiter is transiting from the Saturn (PD Lord) in the 12th house over the 8 > th lord and influencing the Mars the 12th lord. Jupiter is ruling the Lagna > as well as the 4th house of vehicles. > > > > Jupiter the Lagna lord is in 11th house. It ensures longevity. > > > > Thanks once again learned members for your knowledge and interest. > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > *Shri Manoj Chandran wrote to me in private mail.* > > * * > > >>>Dear Ravindramani Ji, Here is my observation. I could be way off in my > conclusion though > > > > Rahu is very strongly influenced by Ju since Ju is both the Rashi dispositor > and Nak dispositor and Rahu is quite closely conjunct with Jupiter. > Influence of Ma on Rahu is also decent since Ma is Rahu's Navamsha > dispoisitor and Mars aspects Rahu in Rashi. Mars also influences both the > luminaries, since both Su and Mo are in the Nak of Mars and Mars aspects > Moon. Mars is ofcourse the 12L and is debilitated in Transit. > > > > Jupiter is both the 64 Nav Lord as well as the 22nd Drekkana Lord, again > debilitated in Transit. Mars, the 12L who aspects all the three lords of > dasha/antar/pratyantar, namely Ra/Me/Sa in the Rashi. He also aspects the > Moon. Mars is transiting his Natal deb 8H postion from the Ascendant. Saturn > is transiting Virgo, which is 8H from his Natal position in Rashi. > Interestingly the Lagna is at 23 deg 22' which makes the orb from 23 deg to > about 28 degree quite sensitive for this boy. On the day of the event Ma was > transiting 25 deg 38 minutes and aspecting Natal positions of Rahu, Jupiter, > quite closely along with the cusp of the houses he aspects. He also aspects > Me and Sa. There was some protection from Lagna Lord Jupiter, even though > transiting his deb position, until Ju was so weak on this day. > > > > From the above, my guess would be either an accident or a health crisis > needing surgery of some kind.>>>*Shri Krishnan wrote:* > > > > >>>Sir, He could have had a major accident but survived at that time. Might > have fractured. >>> > > =============================================== > > > > > Dear friends, > > Those who have time and interest may cast the following chart and see what > could have been happened to this boy on the last day of Jupiter in > Capricorn. > > Oct 14,1994 > Time: 12:57PM > Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 > New Delhi > Longitude: 77E12 Latitude: 28N36 > > Current Period: Ra/Me/Sa > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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