Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Dear Ravindramani, Certainly I do appreciate your concern and, of course, with exalted Jupiter closely conjunct Rahu and both in nakshatra of exalted 9th lord Mercury whilst dispositor Moon occupies 10th in nakshatra of Rahu himself, the compulsion to share this knowledge with the public (Moon/10th) is quite strong... This can be seen as an addiction, no doubt; however, with lagnesh Saturn, in 6th house of work (disposited by 9th lord Mercury), the sense of responsibility (for the work I do) is also very strong. As stated in earlier mail; 'What is destined to happen WILL happen'...it is what it is! It's also good therapy for me at the moment to keep the mind occupied rather than dwell on my own (physical) situation, which I have little control over...it is what it is! However the group may be relieved to know that I will be less active today as I have a medical appointment in a couple of hours. No doubt a thorough consideration of the current dasa periods reveals that my commitment to the group is purely and simply the work I'm called to do during this Mercury dasa...Mercury (learning, teaching, education, writing, communication) disposits lagnesh Saturn who sits in 6th house of 'daily work'... I cannot escape this karma! But is this an addiction? Well obviously the involvement of Rahu in nakshatra of Mercury (and star lord of Moon) is an extremely compelling force, no doubt. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ====================== C.S. Ravindramani Sunday, 10 January 2010 3:36 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks Dear Mrs. Wendy, I read your posts with great pleasure, still I prefer to request you to take some rest from this computer. It is an addiction. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4759 (20100110) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 PS: The compelling force of Rahu can be seen also in the horoscopes of: 1) Your own Guru (K.N. RAO) with Rahu's dispositor (Jupiter) in 10th...Rahu occupying 6th house of 'daily work'. 2) B.V. Raman with Jupiter (dispositor of Rahu) again in 10th...aspecting 6th in both charts. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ======================= Mrs. Wendy Monday, 11 January 2010 8:41 AM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks Dear Ravindramani, Certainly I do appreciate your concern and, of course, with exalted Jupiter closely conjunct Rahu and both in nakshatra of exalted 9th lord Mercury whilst dispositor Moon occupies 10th in nakshatra of Rahu himself, the compulsion to share this knowledge with the public (Moon/10th) is quite strong... This can be seen as an addiction, no doubt; however, with lagnesh Saturn, in 6th house of work (disposited by 9th lord Mercury), the sense of responsibility (for the work I do) is also very strong. As stated in earlier mail; 'What is destined to happen WILL happen'...it is what it is! It's also good therapy for me at the moment to keep the mind occupied rather than dwell on my own (physical) situation, which I have little control over...it is what it is! However the group may be relieved to know that I will be less active today as I have a medical appointment in a couple of hours. No doubt a thorough consideration of the current dasa periods reveals that my commitment to the group is purely and simply the work I'm called to do during this Mercury dasa...Mercury (learning, teaching, education, writing, communication) disposits lagnesh Saturn who sits in 6th house of 'daily work'... I cannot escape this karma! But is this an addiction? Well obviously the involvement of Rahu in nakshatra of Mercury (and star lord of Moon) is an extremely compelling force, no doubt. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ====================== C.S. Ravindramani Sunday, 10 January 2010 3:36 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks Dear Mrs. Wendy, I read your posts with great pleasure, still I prefer to request you to take some rest from this computer. It is an addiction. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. .. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4759 (20100110) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Dear Mrs. Wendy, A small story comes to my mind when I heard it when I was so young. Once Kunti, the mother of Pandavas asked Lord Krishna, " don't you ever sleep " ? He said, " there are two persons who are not able to sleep in this world. Those who possess vidya and vichara can't sleep. They always remain awake. It is their compulsion. Vidya = the knowledge and Vichara = Deep reflection, VicharaM = profound concern for others At the same length, He goes on saying, this body is the temple – a dharmakshetra and it is the duty of the indweller to take care of it. The body is the vehicle through which all his assigned duties are to be performed. You should not tax it unnecessarily. Day before yesterday, I came to know that my Teacher is going to guide 95 students in his new class starting yesterday. I saw him from a little distance after a long time. He appeared so tired physically. I thought he has become an addict. Exactly, as you wrote, his placement of Jupiter came to my mind. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > PS: The compelling force of Rahu can be seen also in the horoscopes of: > > 1) Your own Guru (K.N. RAO) with Rahu's dispositor (Jupiter) in 10th...Rahu occupying 6th house of 'daily work'. > > 2) B.V. Raman with Jupiter (dispositor of Rahu) again in 10th...aspecting 6th in both charts. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ======================= > > > > Mrs. Wendy > Monday, 11 January 2010 8:41 AM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > Certainly I do appreciate your concern and, of course, with exalted Jupiter closely conjunct Rahu and both in nakshatra of exalted 9th lord Mercury whilst dispositor Moon occupies 10th in nakshatra of Rahu himself, the compulsion to share this knowledge with the public (Moon/10th) is quite strong... > > This can be seen as an addiction, no doubt; however, with lagnesh Saturn, in 6th house of work (disposited by 9th lord Mercury), the sense of responsibility (for the work I do) is also very strong. As stated in earlier mail; 'What is destined to happen WILL happen'...it is what it is! > > It's also good therapy for me at the moment to keep the mind occupied rather than dwell on my own (physical) situation, which I have little control over...it is what it is! > > However the group may be relieved to know that I will be less active today as I have a medical appointment in a couple of hours. > > No doubt a thorough consideration of the current dasa periods reveals that my commitment to the group is purely and simply the work I'm called to do during this Mercury dasa...Mercury (learning, teaching, education, writing, communication) disposits lagnesh Saturn who sits in 6th house of 'daily work'... I cannot escape this karma! > > But is this an addiction? Well obviously the involvement of Rahu in nakshatra of Mercury (and star lord of Moon) is an extremely compelling force, no doubt. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ====================== > > C.S. Ravindramani > Sunday, 10 January 2010 3:36 PM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > I read your posts with great pleasure, still I prefer to request you to take > some rest from this computer. It is an addiction. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Dear Mrs Wendy,Shri Ravindramani Ji and Members An interesting decision.What madam has informed of the role of Rahu in the case of Shri K.N.Rao.Both of us belong to same profession and also his interest and involvement in Astrology through ICAS in 70-80s was a matter of inspiration personally to me. Rahu in 6th makes work alcoholic when associated with Benific.Even I feel my Rahu in 6th has some thing to with work culture.In my case venus sign and mars posited in 6th Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Sun, 1/10/10, ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: ravindramani <ravindramani Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks jyotish-vidya Sunday, January 10, 2010, 8:50 PM  Dear Mrs. Wendy, A small story comes to my mind when I heard it when I was so young. Once Kunti, the mother of Pandavas asked Lord Krishna, " don't you ever sleep " ? He said, " there are two persons who are not able to sleep in this world. Those who possess vidya and vichara can't sleep. They always remain awake. It is their compulsion. Vidya = the knowledge and Vichara = Deep reflection, VicharaM = profound concern for others At the same length, He goes on saying, this body is the temple – a dharmakshetra and it is the duty of the indweller to take care of it. The body is the vehicle through which all his assigned duties are to be performed. You should not tax it unnecessarily. Day before yesterday, I came to know that my Teacher is going to guide 95 students in his new class starting yesterday. I saw him from a little distance after a long time. He appeared so tired physically. I thought he has become an addict. Exactly, as you wrote, his placement of Jupiter came to my mind. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani jyotish-vidya, " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@ ...> wrote: > > PS: The compelling force of Rahu can be seen also in the horoscopes of: > > 1) Your own Guru (K.N. RAO) with Rahu's dispositor (Jupiter) in 10th...Rahu occupying 6th house of 'daily work'. > > 2) B.V. Raman with Jupiter (dispositor of Rahu) again in 10th...aspecting 6th in both charts. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya .com > > ============ ========= == > > > > Mrs. Wendy > Monday, 11 January 2010 8:41 AM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > Certainly I do appreciate your concern and, of course, with exalted Jupiter closely conjunct Rahu and both in nakshatra of exalted 9th lord Mercury whilst dispositor Moon occupies 10th in nakshatra of Rahu himself, the compulsion to share this knowledge with the public (Moon/10th) is quite strong.... > > This can be seen as an addiction, no doubt; however, with lagnesh Saturn, in 6th house of work (disposited by 9th lord Mercury), the sense of responsibility (for the work I do) is also very strong. As stated in earlier mail; 'What is destined to happen WILL happen'...it is what it is! > > It's also good therapy for me at the moment to keep the mind occupied rather than dwell on my own (physical) situation, which I have little control over...it is what it is! > > However the group may be relieved to know that I will be less active today as I have a medical appointment in a couple of hours. > > No doubt a thorough consideration of the current dasa periods reveals that my commitment to the group is purely and simply the work I'm called to do during this Mercury dasa...Mercury (learning, teaching, education, writing, communication) disposits lagnesh Saturn who sits in 6th house of 'daily work'... I cannot escape this karma! > > But is this an addiction? Well obviously the involvement of Rahu in nakshatra of Mercury (and star lord of Moon) is an extremely compelling force, no doubt. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya .com > > ============ ========= = > > C.S. Ravindramani > Sunday, 10 January 2010 3:36 PM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > I read your posts with great pleasure, still I prefer to request you to take > some rest from this computer. It is an addiction. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Uttara ji, ///The problem with Vit D is it is a fat soluable vitamin and getting too much of it is just has bad if not worse for toxcity as too low./// Since Guru rules fat and since Guru and Surya are generally friendly, is there some connecton? Regarding RH factor--your comments on your son are most interesting. I will try to get RH factor for my sister, her husband and first son soon and try to post it here. Also, I think that the doctor's recommendaton of sunlight in my nephew's case may have been prompted by the fact that Bangalore, though tropical and quite close to the equator, is very much above sea leavel (over 3,000 feet, I think) and so has a very pleasant climate. I can't imagine exposing babies to sunlight in costal areas like Bombay or Madras, they would simply boil! :-) ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Dear Ravindramani ji, Are you in New Delhi,......at BVB.????..... Regards RRS Riat There is so much knowledge to absorb....life is probably very short....not enough to know everything..... --- On Mon, 11/1/10, ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: ravindramani <ravindramani Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks jyotish-vidya Monday, 11 January, 2010, 7:20  Dear Mrs. Wendy, A small story comes to my mind when I heard it when I was so young. Once Kunti, the mother of Pandavas asked Lord Krishna, " don't you ever sleep " ? He said, " there are two persons who are not able to sleep in this world. Those who possess vidya and vichara can't sleep. They always remain awake. It is their compulsion. Vidya = the knowledge and Vichara = Deep reflection, VicharaM = profound concern for others At the same length, He goes on saying, this body is the temple – a dharmakshetra and it is the duty of the indweller to take care of it. The body is the vehicle through which all his assigned duties are to be performed. You should not tax it unnecessarily. Day before yesterday, I came to know that my Teacher is going to guide 95 students in his new class starting yesterday. I saw him from a little distance after a long time. He appeared so tired physically. I thought he has become an addict. Exactly, as you wrote, his placement of Jupiter came to my mind. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani jyotish-vidya, " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@ ...> wrote: > > PS: The compelling force of Rahu can be seen also in the horoscopes of: > > 1) Your own Guru (K.N. RAO) with Rahu's dispositor (Jupiter) in 10th...Rahu occupying 6th house of 'daily work'. > > 2) B.V. Raman with Jupiter (dispositor of Rahu) again in 10th...aspecting 6th in both charts. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya .com > > ============ ========= == > > > > Mrs. Wendy > Monday, 11 January 2010 8:41 AM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > Certainly I do appreciate your concern and, of course, with exalted Jupiter closely conjunct Rahu and both in nakshatra of exalted 9th lord Mercury whilst dispositor Moon occupies 10th in nakshatra of Rahu himself, the compulsion to share this knowledge with the public (Moon/10th) is quite strong.... > > This can be seen as an addiction, no doubt; however, with lagnesh Saturn, in 6th house of work (disposited by 9th lord Mercury), the sense of responsibility (for the work I do) is also very strong. As stated in earlier mail; 'What is destined to happen WILL happen'...it is what it is! > > It's also good therapy for me at the moment to keep the mind occupied rather than dwell on my own (physical) situation, which I have little control over...it is what it is! > > However the group may be relieved to know that I will be less active today as I have a medical appointment in a couple of hours. > > No doubt a thorough consideration of the current dasa periods reveals that my commitment to the group is purely and simply the work I'm called to do during this Mercury dasa...Mercury (learning, teaching, education, writing, communication) disposits lagnesh Saturn who sits in 6th house of 'daily work'... I cannot escape this karma! > > But is this an addiction? Well obviously the involvement of Rahu in nakshatra of Mercury (and star lord of Moon) is an extremely compelling force, no doubt. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya .com > > ============ ========= = > > C.S. Ravindramani > Sunday, 10 January 2010 3:36 PM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > I read your posts with great pleasure, still I prefer to request you to take > some rest from this computer. It is an addiction. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Dear Mrs Wendy, Clear views and great.Wish You all the best and pray to Almighty to give peace happiness and also the moral strength to deal several things and ofcourse dedicated field of jyotish that is source of enlightenment to many mebers. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Sun, 1/10/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks jyotish-vidya Sunday, January 10, 2010, 7:41 PM  Dear Ravindramani, Certainly I do appreciate your concern and, of course, with exalted Jupiter closely conjunct Rahu and both in nakshatra of exalted 9th lord Mercury whilst dispositor Moon occupies 10th in nakshatra of Rahu himself, the compulsion to share this knowledge with the public (Moon/10th) is quite strong... This can be seen as an addiction, no doubt; however, with lagnesh Saturn, in 6th house of work (disposited by 9th lord Mercury), the sense of responsibility (for the work I do) is also very strong. As stated in earlier mail; 'What is destined to happen WILL happen'...it is what it is! It's also good therapy for me at the moment to keep the mind occupied rather than dwell on my own (physical) situation, which I have little control over...it is what it is! However the group may be relieved to know that I will be less active today as I have a medical appointment in a couple of hours. No doubt a thorough consideration of the current dasa periods reveals that my commitment to the group is purely and simply the work I'm called to do during this Mercury dasa...Mercury (learning, teaching, education, writing, communication) disposits lagnesh Saturn who sits in 6th house of 'daily work'... I cannot escape this karma! But is this an addiction? Well obviously the involvement of Rahu in nakshatra of Mercury (and star lord of Moon) is an extremely compelling force, no doubt. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ============ ========= = C.S. Ravindramani Sunday, 10 January 2010 3:36 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks Dear Mrs. Wendy, I read your posts with great pleasure, still I prefer to request you to take some rest from this computer. It is an addiction. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4759 (20100110) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Dear Uttara Ji, Thanks you for your detailed email. I understand and stand corrected. As usual I learn more by making mistakes.  Regards,  -Manoj  ________________________________ Uttara <muttaraphalguni jyotish-vidya Sun, January 10, 2010 4:34:56 PM Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks  Dear Manoj, I clearly understand now how you are intrepreting the quoted material below. However, the quote is talking about body temperature and not location or weather. Let me explain. Babies when they are born and for several months can not regulate their body temperature as effectively as a child, a teenager or an adult. This is why when they are born they are swaddled tightly not only for security but to retain their heat. Even when the baby is taken over to the exam table at birth, it is in a well controled environment of heat when it is examined. The nursery too is heat controlled along with the babies being swaddled. When the babies are given to the mothers for bonding and nursing, they are transported to them in their isolettes which are temperature controled. Once babies come home, their environment might be very warm, even hot and stuffy without much air circulation or it can be cooler or cold. Which ever and whatever circumstances aside - because babies are mostly sleeping with little activity it is neccessry to keep them bundle so they do not loose their body heat. As you know all human beings in a non activity or dosing or sleeping state drop their body temperature. This is why even in very hot humid atmospheres one would during the day wear light weight fabric and especially at night will continue to do the same to help keep some body temperature and facilitate perspiration (the cooling of the body). Or at least cover up with a sheet; whether there is a circulating fan or there is air conditioning. In colder months one covers up more because we as humans tend to loose more heat and energy due to the cold dry air. So, with babies, it's important to keep them swaddled in the first month especially. Having to take their clothes off to receive the rays of the sun to break down the red blood cells, to excrete from the liver, leaves the baby cold, indoors, if left to long. Like more than a few minutes. Therefore the Academy of Peds. is advising that a baby will be too cold trying to receive the rays of the sun in the house. Outside in the rays of the Sun is better, but as you have pointed out, some areas are warmer than others. Actually, babies should not be put directly into the rays of the sun without proper protection of their eyes and of course as we know today,it is detrimental for all humans to lay exposed for any lenght of time in the direct rays of the sun exposing one to severe burns and possible skin cancer development. So, what the quote is saying is that without proper observation and timing, undressing the baby inside without a controlled heated environment, runs the risk of the baby loosing too much body heat. In adults if one's temperature drops to 97 one is chilly, if it drops to 96 trouble begins, if it drops to 94 critical, to 92 life threatening. For babies, they can loose what little body heat they have very quickly and once heat is lost it requires a very long time to heat them up again. Baby's survival is at great risk. Having baby inside in front of a South or West window undressed, is best depending on the time of day but for only short periods at a time. say 3-5mins. Because of the risk of loosing too much body heat or being over heated and burned, especially with the reflection of the window. One would have to do this several times a day to get the benifit needed for the liver to breakdown the bilirubin. So having a baby in a controlled heated isolette with photo therapy is best for those that need it the most and for longer durations. In the isolette too, the babies eyes are wrapped or little black eye gloggles are placed over the eyes for protection. (Ultra-violet rays). The baby is undressed completely accept for diapers. The diapers are left on not so much for easier clean up, but to help retain some heat to the baby naturally as its temeprature lowers while being idle and/or sleeping. Now, for centuries, babies have been put outside in the sun for a number of reasons. Even indirect sun is good for baby for other issues. But, again, the evironment needs to be properly looked after so baby does not burn, heat up to much or have eyes exposed to the rays. Nor lose its body heat (even in hot outdoor climates). This was learned over time by mothers, families and doctors. Today, we have so many conveniences and much of the USA is airconditioned. so, having baby inside in front of a window presents its own risks of burning or damage to eyes or heating up to much, or if idle, loosing too much body heat in a very short time. Even awake, baby is lying in a prone position without much movement and can drop several degrees of heat within a matter of seconds. Ever take a newborn baby out of a sink basin after a warm bath and see them turn blue and shivering before one can get their towel suffciently wrapped around them? It's that quick! even in toddlers. So, the Acadmey is stating a correct reality. Having babies at home placed in a window with only a diaper on, can, if not managed well and closely supervised, expose the baby to too much body heat lose. Not to mention other risks. Babies that have a minimum of billirubin can benefit greatly by being home in a window for very short periods as stated above and due extremely well as the bellirubin is nudged to excrete through the liver. The article I believe was talking about moderate to borderline high billirubin which needs more Sun time and naked body exposure time to be effective, often being contradictive to baby loosing to much body heat at home. Generally, when babies are high risk, they need 12 hrs on and 12 hrs off of phototherapy in a controlled heated isolette or incubator. As Always, Uttara jyotish-vidya, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Uttara Ji, > > I think you misunderstood my comment. Please kindly see the context. I said cold months specifically due to AAP's comment about the following, which I have already posted: > > " Exposing your baby to sunlight might help lower the bilirubin level, but this will only work if the baby is completely undressed. This cannot be done safely inside your home because your baby will get cold " . > > I agree the blood incompatibility has nothing to do with the weather, but, clearly the above comment does not hold good in warm places. Hence in parts of India it might quite be possible in most months of the year to expose the child to sunlight without getting cold. > > My comment was specifically directed to the Q & A question I had pasted below from the AAP website. Hope that clears it. >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ ...> > jyotish-vidya > Sat, January 9, 2010 10:11:01 PM > Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > >  > Dear Mamoj, > > If I may interject here. > > ///It could be the recommendations are a bit different due to the cold months in NA./// > > Weather, NA or other locations of baby and mother has nothing to do with blood incompatibility. > > You are speculating against written material because of your own knowledge of family members experiences. It might be worth your while to explore in detail the circumstances of blood inter-relations with your family to see why you deny any problems. > > The link below and others given in exchange of posts here on JV clearly outline what Jaundice is and its possibility of complications due to blood incompatibility. No where is it stated that weather or location has anything to do with it. > > RH factor incompatibility is contradictive to survival. > O blood group is severe - if complications of bilirubin arise. > All other A-B groups prove to be less severe. Little to moderate mostly. > > Please go back and read the link I provided that outlines ALL the causes of bilirubin and its effects. > > As Always, > > Uttara > > jyotish-vidya, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Mrs Wendy, > > > > Thanks for your comments. My comments were not mine but those of the Amercian association of Pediatrics. It could be the recommendations are a bit different due to the cold months in NA. > > > >  http://www.aap. org/family/ Jaundicefaq. htm > > > > I produce the relevant Q & A below: > > > > Q: How is harmful jaundice prevented? > > A: Most jaundice requires no treatment. When treatment is necessary, placing your baby under special lights while he or she is undressed will lower the bilirubin level. Depending on your baby’s bilirubin level, this can be done in the hospital or at home. Jaundice is treated at levels that are much lower than those at which brain damage is a concern. Treatment can prevent the harmful effects of jaundice. > >  > > Putting your baby in sunlight is not recommended as a safe way of treating jaundice. Exposing your baby to sunlight might help lower the bilirubin level, but this will only work if the baby is completely undressed. This cannot be done safely inside your home because your baby will get cold, and newborns should never be put in direct sunlight outside because they might get sunburned. > > > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@ ...> > > jyotish-vidya > > Sat, January 9, 2010 2:25:53 PM > > Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > > > >  > > PS: The previous article, although clear to me at the time, may not have > > (clearly) conveyed the message that the problem with blood group O (in > > regards to jaundice in babies) is the rhesus (Rh) factor. > > > > If the mother is Rh negative and the baby is Rh positive there's the chance > > that the baby may be born with anaemia and jaundice... > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -- > > " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@ bigpond.com> > > Sunday, 10 January 2010 4:18 AM > > <jyotish-vidya> > > Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > > > > Dear Manoj and Balaji, > > > > The following article may be useful in clarifying things... > > http://www2. abc.net.au/ science/k2/ stn-archive1/ posts/topic20121 .shtm > > > > As for the treatment with light therapy (phototherapy) , this can be, and > > usually was, simply exposure to Sun. Now, of course, specific (artificial) > > wavelengths of light are used to treat this and many other conditions. > > > > When my boys, now in their 40's, were babies, a short daily Sun bath was > > normal practice for the overall health and well-being of the child, > > particularly if the child had jaundice. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -- > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4757 (20100109) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset. com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Dear Baliji, and All, //// Since Guru rules fat and since Guru and Surya are generally friendly, is there some connection?//// I would think there is, since Jupiter expands all life processes while Sun is body, vitality, heart etc. Jupiter too, is related to Liver as we know. Taking the 5th & 6th house position highlighting intestines gall bladder and liver is important too I would think. And, I would think that Mars plays a role here also, since Mars rules blood. Venus too, since it rules the venous small blood vessels. quoted from: from http://kidshealth.org/parent/pregnancy_newborn/common/jaundice.html " ...Bilirubin is produced by the normal breakdown of red blood cells. Normally, bilirubin passes through the liver and is excreted as bile through the intestines. Jaundice occurs when bilirubin builds up faster than a newborn's liver can break it down and pass it from the body.... " * Newborns make more bilirubin than adults do since they have more turnover of red blood cells. * A newborn baby's still-developing liver may not yet be able to remove adequate bilirubin from the blood. * Too large an amount of bilirubin is reabsorbed from the intestines before the baby gets rid of it in the stool... " At present I can only use my childrens birth charts and mine to highlight the possible cause. As mother, first and foremost my blood type is O neg. My lst house is Virgo/Me ASC conj natal Saturn nakshatra rule SU, with aspect of 7th hse Pisces/Ju with natal Jupiter in own hse nakshatra rule ME which also aspects 11th hse Cancer/Mo with natal Sun nakshatra rule SA. Natal Ju(ME)continues to aspect my 3rd hse Scorpio/Ma. Natal Mars 10th hse Gemini/Me nakshatra rule JU also aspects my lst hse Virgo/Me with natal Sa(Su), 4th hse Sag/Ju and 5th hse Cap/Sa. Natal Sa(Su) lst hse Virgo/Me aspects 3rd hse Scorpio/Ma, 7th hse Pisces/Ju with natal Ju(ME) in own hse and 10th hse Gemini/Me with natal Mars(JU). 2nd hse Venus ruler is natally placed in 12th hse stellium Leo/Su nakshatra rule VE with Ketu nakshatra rule VE and 8* Mercury mrityubhaga nakshatra rule KE, where their depositer Sun is located in 11th hse Cancer/Mo nakshatra rule SA. Sun(SA) ruler Leo is 12th hse from Virgo/Me with Sa(SU)and aspects from Ju(ME) and Ma(JU). My daughter's blood type is O pos. First house Taurus/Ve ASC nakshatra rule MO has natal Jupiter nakshatra rule SU and trines her stellium fifth hse Virgo/Me (intestines) where Mars nakshatra rule MA, Venus nakshatra rule MA, Sun nakshatra rule SU are natally placed. Natal Ju(SU) aspects not only her 5th hse stellium Virgo/Me but her 7th hse Scopio/MA and 9th hse Capricorn/SA. Natal Ma(MA) transits 8th hse Sag/JU, 11th hse Pisces/JU and 12th hse Aries/MA where natal Ketu nakshatra rule KE is placed. Natal Su(SU) aspects 11th hse Pisces/JU. Natal Venus(MA) aspects 11th hse Pisces/JU. Also Venus is ruler of sixth hse health. Not to be forgotten her 4th hse Leo is ruled by Sun and is 12 hse form 5th hse stellium Virgo/Me. And not to be ignored, her 9th hse Capricorn/Sa is opposite her 3rd hse Cancer/Mo where natal Saturn nakshatra rule ME is placed and aspects her 5th hse stellium Virgo/Me, 9th hse Capricorn/Sa and 12th hse Aries/Ma with natal Ketu nakshatra rule KE My son's blood type is B pos. Seventh hse Capricorn/Sa has natal Jupiter nakshatra rule MO with natal Moon nakshatra rule SU. Jupiter is ruler of 6th hse Sag/JU and 9th hse Pisces/JU. Jupiter aspects 11th hse Taurus/Ve with Venus in own hse nakshatra rule SU and lst hse Cancer/Mo where natal Mercury nakshatra rule SA is place. Also Jupiter aspects 3rd hse Virgo/Me. Both Mars nakkshatra rule JU and Sun nakshatra rule RA are placed in 12th hse Gemini/Me. Both Sun(RA)and Mars(JU)aspect 6th hse Sag/JU and Mars also aspects 3rd hse Virgo/Me and 7th hse Capricorn/SA, with natal Moon nakshatra rule SU. Besides Venus ruling 11th hse with natal Venus in own hse nakshatra rule SU, it aspects 5th hse Scorpio/Ma and also rules 4th hse Li/Ve where Exalted SA nakshatra rule JU and natal ketu nakshatra rule JU is placed. Hope this shines some further light on the subject. It would be interesting to get other natal charts of babies and their mothers, if possible, to investigate in-depth. I only mentioned here a few factors with my examples but it does highlight the JU SU MA and Venus interaction with JU predominating. Then Mars Sun and finally Venus. Navamsas holds clues too, to support. ///I can't imagine exposing babies to sunlight in costal areas like Bombay or Madras, they would simply boil! :-)/// Yes, exactly and without supervision in a matter of minutes!!! Furthermore, they would become very dehydrated quickly and thus would also loose a lot of internal body heat to " function properly " , as our bodies are 90% water and carry oxygen and Blood(white,red and plasma)throughout our systems. This example that you brought up emphasises with mine the importance of heat environment control for baby while Sun (indoors or out) or photo therapy (ultra Blue light)aiding Liver to breakdown used red blood cells to excrete properly through intestines. Looking forward to you family info when available. As Always, Uttara jyotish-vidya , Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: > > Uttara ji, > > ///The problem with Vit D is it is a fat soluable vitamin and getting too much of it is just has bad if not worse for toxcity as too low./// > > Since Guru rules fat and since Guru and Surya are generally friendly, is there some connecton? > > Regarding RH factor--your comments on your son are most interesting. I will try to get RH factor for my sister, her husband and first son soon and try to post it here. > > Also, I think that the doctor's recommendaton of sunlight in my nephew's case may have been prompted by the fact that Bangalore, though tropical and quite close to the equator, is very much above sea leavel (over 3,000 feet, I think) and so has a very pleasant climate. I can't imagine exposing babies to sunlight in costal areas like Bombay or Madras, they would simply boil! :-) > > ~~~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan > Author & Editor > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > ~~~~~~~~~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Dear Manoj, ///As usual I learn more by making mistakes./// We all do! That is why JV is such a great study forum. We are all students in the big picture and we learn from each other!!! :-) I am glad I was of some help. As always, Uttara jyotish-vidya , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Uttara Ji, > > Thanks you for your detailed email. I understand and stand corrected. As usual I learn more by making mistakes. >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Uttara <muttaraphalguni > jyotish-vidya > Sun, January 10, 2010 4:34:56 PM > Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > >  > Dear Manoj, > > I clearly understand now how you are intrepreting the quoted material below. However, the quote is talking about body temperature and not location or weather. Let me explain. Babies when they are born and for several months can not regulate their body temperature as effectively as a child, a teenager or an adult. This is why when they are born they are swaddled tightly not only for security but to retain their heat. Even when the baby is taken over to the exam table at birth, it is in a well controled environment of heat when it is examined. The nursery too is heat controlled along with the babies being swaddled. When the babies are given to the mothers for bonding and nursing, they are transported to them in their isolettes which are temperature controled. > > Once babies come home, their environment might be very warm, even hot and stuffy without much air circulation or it can be cooler or cold. Which ever and whatever circumstances aside - because babies are mostly sleeping with little activity it is neccessry to keep them bundle so they do not loose their body heat. As you know all human beings in a non activity or dosing or sleeping state drop their body temperature. This is why even in very hot humid atmospheres one would during the day wear light weight fabric and especially at night will continue to do the same to help keep some body temperature and facilitate perspiration (the cooling of the body). Or at least cover up with a sheet; whether there is a circulating fan or there is air conditioning. In colder months one covers up more because we as humans tend to loose more heat and energy due to the cold dry air. So, with babies, it's important to keep them swaddled in the first month especially. > > Having to take their clothes off to receive the rays of the sun to break down the red blood cells, to excrete from the liver, leaves the baby cold, indoors, if left to long. Like more than a few minutes. Therefore the Academy of Peds. is advising that a baby will be too cold trying to receive the rays of the sun in the house. Outside in the rays of the Sun is better, but as you have pointed out, some areas are warmer than others. Actually, babies should not be put directly into the rays of the sun without proper protection of their eyes and of course as we know today,it is detrimental for all humans to lay exposed for any lenght of time in the direct rays of the sun exposing one to severe burns and possible skin cancer development. > > So, what the quote is saying is that without proper observation and timing, undressing the baby inside without a controlled heated environment, runs the risk of the baby loosing too much body heat. In adults if one's temperature drops to 97 one is chilly, if it drops to 96 trouble begins, if it drops to 94 critical, to 92 life threatening. For babies, they can loose what little body heat they have very quickly and once heat is lost it requires a very long time to heat them up again. Baby's survival is at great risk. Having baby inside in front of a South or West window undressed, is best depending on the time of day but for only short periods at a time. say 3-5mins. Because of the risk of loosing too much body heat or being over heated and burned, especially with the reflection of the window. One would have to do this several times a day to get the benifit needed for the liver to breakdown the bilirubin. > > So having a baby in a controlled heated isolette with photo therapy is best for those that need it the most and for longer durations. In the isolette too, the babies eyes are wrapped or little black eye gloggles are placed over the eyes for protection. (Ultra-violet rays). The baby is undressed completely accept for diapers. The diapers are left on not so much for easier clean up, but to help retain some heat to the baby naturally as its temeprature lowers while being idle and/or sleeping. > > Now, for centuries, babies have been put outside in the sun for a number of reasons. Even indirect sun is good for baby for other issues. But, again, the evironment needs to be properly looked after so baby does not burn, heat up to much or have eyes exposed to the rays. Nor lose its body heat (even in hot outdoor climates). This was learned over time by mothers, families and doctors. Today, we have so many conveniences and much of the USA is airconditioned. so, having baby inside in front of a window presents its own risks of burning or damage to eyes or heating up to much, or if idle, loosing too much body heat in a very short time. Even awake, baby is lying in a prone position without much movement and can drop several degrees of heat within a matter of seconds. Ever take a newborn baby out of a sink basin after a warm bath and see them turn blue and shivering before one can get their towel suffciently wrapped around them? It's that quick! even in > toddlers. > > So, the Acadmey is stating a correct reality. Having babies at home > placed in a window with only a diaper on, can, if not managed well and closely supervised, expose the baby to too much body heat lose. > Not to mention other risks. > > Babies that have a minimum of billirubin can benefit greatly by being home in a window for very short periods as stated above and due extremely well as the bellirubin is nudged to excrete through the liver. > > The article I believe was talking about moderate to borderline high billirubin which needs more Sun time and naked body exposure time to be effective, often being contradictive to baby loosing to much body heat at home. Generally, when babies are high risk, they need 12 hrs on and 12 hrs off of phototherapy in a controlled heated isolette or incubator. > > As Always, > > Uttara > > jyotish-vidya, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Uttara Ji, > > > > I think you misunderstood my comment. Please kindly see the context. I said cold months specifically due to AAP's comment about the following, which I have already posted: > > > > " Exposing your baby to sunlight might help lower the bilirubin level, but this will only work if the baby is completely undressed. This cannot be done safely inside your home because your baby will get cold " . > > > > I agree the blood incompatibility has nothing to do with the weather, but, clearly the above comment does not hold good in warm places. Hence in parts of India it might quite be possible in most months of the year to expose the child to sunlight without getting cold. > > > > My comment was specifically directed to the Q & A question I had pasted below from the AAP website. Hope that clears it. > >  > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ ...> > > jyotish-vidya > > Sat, January 9, 2010 10:11:01 PM > > Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > > > >  > > Dear Mamoj, > > > > If I may interject here. > > > > ///It could be the recommendations are a bit different due to the cold months in NA./// > > > > Weather, NA or other locations of baby and mother has nothing to do with blood incompatibility. > > > > You are speculating against written material because of your own knowledge of family members experiences. It might be worth your while to explore in detail the circumstances of blood inter-relations with your family to see why you deny any problems. > > > > The link below and others given in exchange of posts here on JV clearly outline what Jaundice is and its possibility of complications due to blood incompatibility. No where is it stated that weather or location has anything to do with it. > > > > RH factor incompatibility is contradictive to survival. > > O blood group is severe - if complications of bilirubin arise. > > All other A-B groups prove to be less severe. Little to moderate mostly. > > > > Please go back and read the link I provided that outlines ALL the causes of bilirubin and its effects. > > > > As Always, > > > > Uttara > > > > jyotish-vidya, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mrs Wendy, > > > > > > Thanks for your comments. My comments were not mine but those of the Amercian association of Pediatrics. It could be the recommendations are a bit different due to the cold months in NA. > > > > > >  http://www.aap. org/family/ Jaundicefaq. htm > > > > > > I produce the relevant Q & A below: > > > > > > Q: How is harmful jaundice prevented? > > > A: Most jaundice requires no treatment. When treatment is necessary, placing your baby under special lights while he or she is undressed will lower the bilirubin level. Depending on your baby’s bilirubin level, this can be done in the hospital or at home. Jaundice is treated at levels that are much lower than those at which brain damage is a concern. Treatment can prevent the harmful effects of jaundice. > > >  > > > Putting your baby in sunlight is not recommended as a safe way of treating jaundice. Exposing your baby to sunlight might help lower the bilirubin level, but this will only work if the baby is completely undressed. This cannot be done safely inside your home because your baby will get cold, and newborns should never be put in direct sunlight outside because they might get sunburned. > > > > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@ ...> > > > jyotish-vidya > > > Sat, January 9, 2010 2:25:53 PM > > > Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > > > > > >  > > > PS: The previous article, although clear to me at the time, may not have > > > (clearly) conveyed the message that the problem with blood group O (in > > > regards to jaundice in babies) is the rhesus (Rh) factor. > > > > > > If the mother is Rh negative and the baby is Rh positive there's the chance > > > that the baby may be born with anaemia and jaundice... > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -- > > > " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@ bigpond.com> > > > Sunday, 10 January 2010 4:18 AM > > > <jyotish-vidya> > > > Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > > > > > > Dear Manoj and Balaji, > > > > > > The following article may be useful in clarifying things... > > > http://www2. abc.net.au/ science/k2/ stn-archive1/ posts/topic20121 .shtm > > > > > > As for the treatment with light therapy (phototherapy) , this can be, and > > > usually was, simply exposure to Sun. Now, of course, specific (artificial) > > > wavelengths of light are used to treat this and many other conditions. > > > > > > When my boys, now in their 40's, were babies, a short daily Sun bath was > > > normal practice for the overall health and well-being of the child, > > > particularly if the child had jaundice. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Mrs. Wendy > > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -- > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4757 (20100109) __________ > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > > > http://www.eset. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Dear Baliji, and All, I see from my recent post about the connection of Jupiter and Sun that i interplayed it with the subject of bellirubin (which has been on my mind most recently)and how it might be picked up in natal charts. In specifically relating a connection of Jupiter to Sun regarding Vit D and heart effects, I can only say that I believe there is a body conection as to how expansive Jupiter can effect Sun with an intake of Vit D. as well as other factors. Vit D has been shown to increase bone density, bone marrow(blood cells),the movement of arterial blood positively through the heart, increase vitality, aid in cell turn over (regenerating cells) along with Vit E as it is also specifically for liver cells to turn over. Vit D along with Lutin is also very good for vision and moisture. As it is also being used effectively aiding cancer cell turn over. So, I can see where Vit D enhances Jupiter and Sun to be their most effective for the body functioning. Would be interesting to hear others thoughts on the matter. As Always, Uttara jyotish-vidya , " Uttara " <muttaraphalguni wrote: > > Dear Baliji, and All, > > > //// Since Guru rules fat and since Guru and Surya are generally friendly, is there some connection?//// > > I would think there is, since Jupiter expands all life processes while Sun is body, vitality, heart etc. Jupiter too, is related to Liver as we know. Taking the 5th & 6th house position highlighting intestines gall bladder and liver is important too I would think. And, I would think that Mars plays a role here also, since Mars rules blood. Venus too, since it rules the venous small blood vessels. > > quoted from: from http://kidshealth.org/parent/pregnancy_newborn/common/jaundice.html > > " ...Bilirubin is produced by the normal breakdown of red blood cells. > > Normally, bilirubin passes through the liver and is excreted as bile through the intestines. Jaundice occurs when bilirubin builds up faster than a newborn's liver can break it down and pass it from the body.... " > * Newborns make more bilirubin than adults do since they have more turnover of red blood cells. > * A newborn baby's still-developing liver may not yet be able to remove adequate bilirubin from the blood. > * Too large an amount of bilirubin is reabsorbed from the intestines before the baby gets rid of it in the stool... " > > At present I can only use my childrens birth charts and mine to highlight the possible cause. As mother, first and foremost my blood type is O neg. My lst house is Virgo/Me ASC conj natal Saturn nakshatra rule SU, with aspect of 7th hse Pisces/Ju with natal Jupiter in own hse nakshatra rule ME which also aspects 11th hse Cancer/Mo with natal Sun nakshatra rule SA. Natal Ju(ME)continues to aspect my 3rd hse Scorpio/Ma. Natal Mars 10th hse Gemini/Me nakshatra rule JU also aspects my lst hse Virgo/Me with natal Sa(Su), 4th hse Sag/Ju and 5th hse Cap/Sa. Natal Sa(Su) lst hse Virgo/Me aspects 3rd hse Scorpio/Ma, 7th hse Pisces/Ju with natal Ju(ME) in own hse and 10th hse Gemini/Me with natal Mars(JU). 2nd hse Venus ruler is natally placed in 12th hse stellium Leo/Su nakshatra rule VE with Ketu nakshatra rule VE and 8* Mercury mrityubhaga nakshatra rule KE, where their depositer Sun is located in 11th hse Cancer/Mo nakshatra rule SA. Sun(SA) ruler Leo is 12th hse from Virgo/Me with Sa(SU)and aspects from Ju(ME) and Ma(JU). > > My daughter's blood type is O pos. First house Taurus/Ve ASC nakshatra rule MO has natal Jupiter nakshatra rule SU and trines her stellium fifth hse Virgo/Me (intestines) where Mars nakshatra rule MA, Venus nakshatra rule MA, Sun nakshatra rule SU are natally placed. Natal Ju(SU) aspects not only her 5th hse stellium Virgo/Me but her 7th hse Scopio/MA and 9th hse Capricorn/SA. Natal Ma(MA) transits 8th hse Sag/JU, 11th hse Pisces/JU and 12th hse Aries/MA where natal Ketu nakshatra rule KE is placed. Natal Su(SU) aspects 11th hse Pisces/JU. Natal Venus(MA) aspects 11th hse Pisces/JU. Also Venus is ruler of sixth hse health. Not to be forgotten her 4th hse Leo is ruled by Sun and is 12 hse form 5th hse stellium Virgo/Me. And not to be ignored, her 9th hse Capricorn/Sa is opposite her 3rd hse Cancer/Mo where natal Saturn nakshatra rule ME is placed and aspects her 5th hse stellium Virgo/Me, 9th hse Capricorn/Sa and 12th hse Aries/Ma with natal Ketu nakshatra rule KE > > My son's blood type is B pos. Seventh hse Capricorn/Sa has natal Jupiter nakshatra rule MO with natal Moon nakshatra rule SU. Jupiter is ruler of 6th hse Sag/JU and 9th hse Pisces/JU. Jupiter aspects 11th hse Taurus/Ve with Venus in own hse nakshatra rule SU and lst hse Cancer/Mo where natal Mercury nakshatra rule SA is place. Also Jupiter aspects 3rd hse Virgo/Me. Both Mars nakkshatra rule JU and Sun nakshatra rule RA are placed in 12th hse Gemini/Me. Both Sun(RA)and Mars(JU)aspect 6th hse Sag/JU and Mars also aspects 3rd hse Virgo/Me and 7th hse Capricorn/SA, with natal Moon nakshatra rule SU. Besides Venus ruling 11th hse with natal Venus in own hse nakshatra rule SU, it aspects 5th hse Scorpio/Ma and also rules 4th hse Li/Ve where Exalted SA nakshatra rule JU and natal ketu nakshatra rule JU is placed. > > Hope this shines some further light on the subject. It would be interesting to get other natal charts of babies and their mothers, if possible, to investigate in-depth. I only mentioned here a few factors with my examples but it does highlight the JU SU MA and Venus interaction with JU predominating. Then Mars Sun and finally Venus. > Navamsas holds clues too, to support. > > ///I can't imagine exposing babies to sunlight in costal areas like Bombay or Madras, they would simply boil! :-)/// > > Yes, exactly and without supervision in a matter of minutes!!! Furthermore, they would become very dehydrated quickly and thus would also loose a lot of internal body heat to " function properly " , as our bodies are 90% water and carry oxygen and Blood(white,red and plasma)throughout our systems. This example that you brought up emphasises with mine the importance of heat environment control for baby while Sun (indoors or out) or photo therapy (ultra Blue light)aiding Liver to breakdown used red blood cells to excrete properly through intestines. > > Looking forward to you family info when available. > > > As Always, > > Uttara > > > > jyotish-vidya , Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > Uttara ji, > > > > ///The problem with Vit D is it is a fat soluable vitamin and getting too much of it is just has bad if not worse for toxcity as too low./// > > > > Since Guru rules fat and since Guru and Surya are generally friendly, is there some connecton? > > > > Regarding RH factor--your comments on your son are most interesting. I will try to get RH factor for my sister, her husband and first son soon and try to post it here. > > > > Also, I think that the doctor's recommendaton of sunlight in my nephew's case may have been prompted by the fact that Bangalore, though tropical and quite close to the equator, is very much above sea leavel (over 3,000 feet, I think) and so has a very pleasant climate. I can't imagine exposing babies to sunlight in costal areas like Bombay or Madras, they would simply boil! :-) > > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > Balaji Narasimhan > > Author & Editor > > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Dear Mrs Uttaraji and All, It is very informative and helps all to understand the perspectives in a detailed and logical perspective. You have properly linked scietific issues with astrological means and explained several intricate issues in your message.the clarity brought by with your own views and experiences goes in long way to score over conjectures. wish you all the best Regards Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Mon, 1/11/10, Uttara <muttaraphalguni wrote: Uttara <muttaraphalguni Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks jyotish-vidya Monday, January 11, 2010, 4:10 PM  Dear Baliji, and All, //// Since Guru rules fat and since Guru and Surya are generally friendly, is there some connection?/ /// I would think there is, since Jupiter expands all life processes while Sun is body, vitality, heart etc. Jupiter too, is related to Liver as we know. Taking the 5th & 6th house position highlighting intestines gall bladder and liver is important too I would think. And, I would think that Mars plays a role here also, since Mars rules blood. Venus too, since it rules the venous small blood vessels. quoted from: from http://kidshealth. org/parent/ pregnancy_ newborn/common/ jaundice. html " ...Bilirubin is produced by the normal breakdown of red blood cells. Normally, bilirubin passes through the liver and is excreted as bile through the intestines. Jaundice occurs when bilirubin builds up faster than a newborn's liver can break it down and pass it from the body.... " * Newborns make more bilirubin than adults do since they have more turnover of red blood cells. * A newborn baby's still-developing liver may not yet be able to remove adequate bilirubin from the blood. * Too large an amount of bilirubin is reabsorbed from the intestines before the baby gets rid of it in the stool... " At present I can only use my childrens birth charts and mine to highlight the possible cause. As mother, first and foremost my blood type is O neg. My lst house is Virgo/Me ASC conj natal Saturn nakshatra rule SU, with aspect of 7th hse Pisces/Ju with natal Jupiter in own hse nakshatra rule ME which also aspects 11th hse Cancer/Mo with natal Sun nakshatra rule SA. Natal Ju(ME)continues to aspect my 3rd hse Scorpio/Ma. Natal Mars 10th hse Gemini/Me nakshatra rule JU also aspects my lst hse Virgo/Me with natal Sa(Su), 4th hse Sag/Ju and 5th hse Cap/Sa. Natal Sa(Su) lst hse Virgo/Me aspects 3rd hse Scorpio/Ma, 7th hse Pisces/Ju with natal Ju(ME) in own hse and 10th hse Gemini/Me with natal Mars(JU). 2nd hse Venus ruler is natally placed in 12th hse stellium Leo/Su nakshatra rule VE with Ketu nakshatra rule VE and 8* Mercury mrityubhaga nakshatra rule KE, where their depositer Sun is located in 11th hse Cancer/Mo nakshatra rule SA. Sun(SA) ruler Leo is 12th hse from Virgo/Me with Sa(SU)and aspects from Ju(ME) and Ma(JU). My daughter's blood type is O pos. First house Taurus/Ve ASC nakshatra rule MO has natal Jupiter nakshatra rule SU and trines her stellium fifth hse Virgo/Me (intestines) where Mars nakshatra rule MA, Venus nakshatra rule MA, Sun nakshatra rule SU are natally placed. Natal Ju(SU) aspects not only her 5th hse stellium Virgo/Me but her 7th hse Scopio/MA and 9th hse Capricorn/SA. Natal Ma(MA) transits 8th hse Sag/JU, 11th hse Pisces/JU and 12th hse Aries/MA where natal Ketu nakshatra rule KE is placed. Natal Su(SU) aspects 11th hse Pisces/JU. Natal Venus(MA) aspects 11th hse Pisces/JU. Also Venus is ruler of sixth hse health. Not to be forgotten her 4th hse Leo is ruled by Sun and is 12 hse form 5th hse stellium Virgo/Me. And not to be ignored, her 9th hse Capricorn/Sa is opposite her 3rd hse Cancer/Mo where natal Saturn nakshatra rule ME is placed and aspects her 5th hse stellium Virgo/Me, 9th hse Capricorn/Sa and 12th hse Aries/Ma with natal Ketu nakshatra rule KE My son's blood type is B pos. Seventh hse Capricorn/Sa has natal Jupiter nakshatra rule MO with natal Moon nakshatra rule SU. Jupiter is ruler of 6th hse Sag/JU and 9th hse Pisces/JU. Jupiter aspects 11th hse Taurus/Ve with Venus in own hse nakshatra rule SU and lst hse Cancer/Mo where natal Mercury nakshatra rule SA is place. Also Jupiter aspects 3rd hse Virgo/Me. Both Mars nakkshatra rule JU and Sun nakshatra rule RA are placed in 12th hse Gemini/Me. Both Sun(RA)and Mars(JU)aspect 6th hse Sag/JU and Mars also aspects 3rd hse Virgo/Me and 7th hse Capricorn/SA, with natal Moon nakshatra rule SU. Besides Venus ruling 11th hse with natal Venus in own hse nakshatra rule SU, it aspects 5th hse Scorpio/Ma and also rules 4th hse Li/Ve where Exalted SA nakshatra rule JU and natal ketu nakshatra rule JU is placed. Hope this shines some further light on the subject. It would be interesting to get other natal charts of babies and their mothers, if possible, to investigate in-depth. I only mentioned here a few factors with my examples but it does highlight the JU SU MA and Venus interaction with JU predominating.. Then Mars Sun and finally Venus. Navamsas holds clues too, to support. ///I can't imagine exposing babies to sunlight in costal areas like Bombay or Madras, they would simply boil! :-)/// Yes, exactly and without supervision in a matter of minutes!!! Furthermore, they would become very dehydrated quickly and thus would also loose a lot of internal body heat to " function properly " , as our bodies are 90% water and carry oxygen and Blood(white, red and plasma)throughout our systems. This example that you brought up emphasises with mine the importance of heat environment control for baby while Sun (indoors or out) or photo therapy (ultra Blue light)aiding Liver to breakdown used red blood cells to excrete properly through intestines. Looking forward to you family info when available. As Always, Uttara jyotish-vidya, Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji@ ....> wrote: > > Uttara ji, > > ///The problem with Vit D is it is a fat soluable vitamin and getting too much of it is just has bad if not worse for toxcity as too low./// > > Since Guru rules fat and since Guru and Surya are generally friendly, is there some connecton? > > Regarding RH factor--your comments on your son are most interesting. I will try to get RH factor for my sister, her husband and first son soon and try to post it here. > > Also, I think that the doctor's recommendaton of sunlight in my nephew's case may have been prompted by the fact that Bangalore, though tropical and quite close to the equator, is very much above sea leavel (over 3,000 feet, I think) and so has a very pleasant climate. I can't imagine exposing babies to sunlight in costal areas like Bombay or Madras, they would simply boil! :-) > > ~~~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan > Author & Editor > http://www.balaji. ind.in/ > ~~~~~~~~~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Dear VK, Thanks so much for taking note and your kind words. I am glad I could help others understand more completely. It is always a pleasure! As Always, Uttara jyotish-vidya , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Mrs Uttaraji and All, > It is very informative and helps all to understand the perspectives in a detailed and logical perspective. > You have properly linked scietific issues with astrological means and explained several intricate issues in your message.the clarity brought by with your own views and experiences goes in long way to score over conjectures. > wish you all the best > Regards > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Mon, 1/11/10, Uttara <muttaraphalguni wrote: > > > Uttara <muttaraphalguni > Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > jyotish-vidya > Monday, January 11, 2010, 4:10 PM > > >  > > > > Dear Baliji, and All, > > //// Since Guru rules fat and since Guru and Surya are generally friendly, is there some connection?/ /// > > I would think there is, since Jupiter expands all life processes while Sun is body, vitality, heart etc. Jupiter too, is related to Liver as we know. Taking the 5th & 6th house position highlighting intestines gall bladder and liver is important too I would think. And, I would think that Mars plays a role here also, since Mars rules blood. Venus too, since it rules the venous small blood vessels. > > quoted from: from http://kidshealth. org/parent/ pregnancy_ newborn/common/ jaundice. html > > " ...Bilirubin is produced by the normal breakdown of red blood cells. > > Normally, bilirubin passes through the liver and is excreted as bile through the intestines. Jaundice occurs when bilirubin builds up faster than a newborn's liver can break it down and pass it from the body.... " > * Newborns make more bilirubin than adults do since they have more turnover of red blood cells. > * A newborn baby's still-developing liver may not yet be able to remove adequate bilirubin from the blood. > * Too large an amount of bilirubin is reabsorbed from the intestines before the baby gets rid of it in the stool... " > > At present I can only use my childrens birth charts and mine to highlight the possible cause. As mother, first and foremost my blood type is O neg. My lst house is Virgo/Me ASC conj natal Saturn nakshatra rule SU, with aspect of 7th hse Pisces/Ju with natal Jupiter in own hse nakshatra rule ME which also aspects 11th hse Cancer/Mo with natal Sun nakshatra rule SA. Natal Ju(ME)continues to aspect my 3rd hse Scorpio/Ma. Natal Mars 10th hse Gemini/Me nakshatra rule JU also aspects my lst hse Virgo/Me with natal Sa(Su), 4th hse Sag/Ju and 5th hse Cap/Sa. Natal Sa(Su) lst hse Virgo/Me aspects 3rd hse Scorpio/Ma, 7th hse Pisces/Ju with natal Ju(ME) in own hse and 10th hse Gemini/Me with natal Mars(JU). 2nd hse Venus ruler is natally placed in 12th hse stellium Leo/Su nakshatra rule VE with Ketu nakshatra rule VE and 8* Mercury mrityubhaga nakshatra rule KE, where their depositer Sun is located in 11th hse Cancer/Mo nakshatra rule SA. Sun(SA) ruler Leo is 12th > hse from Virgo/Me with Sa(SU)and aspects from Ju(ME) and Ma(JU). > > My daughter's blood type is O pos. First house Taurus/Ve ASC nakshatra rule MO has natal Jupiter nakshatra rule SU and trines her stellium fifth hse Virgo/Me (intestines) where Mars nakshatra rule MA, Venus nakshatra rule MA, Sun nakshatra rule SU are natally placed. Natal Ju(SU) aspects not only her 5th hse stellium Virgo/Me but her 7th hse Scopio/MA and 9th hse Capricorn/SA. Natal Ma(MA) transits 8th hse Sag/JU, 11th hse Pisces/JU and 12th hse Aries/MA where natal Ketu nakshatra rule KE is placed. Natal Su(SU) aspects 11th hse Pisces/JU. Natal Venus(MA) aspects 11th hse Pisces/JU. Also Venus is ruler of sixth hse health. Not to be forgotten her 4th hse Leo is ruled by Sun and is 12 hse form 5th hse stellium Virgo/Me. And not to be ignored, her 9th hse Capricorn/Sa is opposite her 3rd hse Cancer/Mo where natal Saturn nakshatra rule ME is placed and aspects her 5th hse stellium Virgo/Me, 9th hse Capricorn/Sa and 12th hse Aries/Ma with natal Ketu > nakshatra rule KE > > My son's blood type is B pos. Seventh hse Capricorn/Sa has natal Jupiter nakshatra rule MO with natal Moon nakshatra rule SU. Jupiter is ruler of 6th hse Sag/JU and 9th hse Pisces/JU. Jupiter aspects 11th hse Taurus/Ve with Venus in own hse nakshatra rule SU and lst hse Cancer/Mo where natal Mercury nakshatra rule SA is place. Also Jupiter aspects 3rd hse Virgo/Me. Both Mars nakkshatra rule JU and Sun nakshatra rule RA are placed in 12th hse Gemini/Me. Both Sun(RA)and Mars(JU)aspect 6th hse Sag/JU and Mars also aspects 3rd hse Virgo/Me and 7th hse Capricorn/SA, with natal Moon nakshatra rule SU. Besides Venus ruling 11th hse with natal Venus in own hse nakshatra rule SU, it aspects 5th hse Scorpio/Ma and also rules 4th hse Li/Ve where Exalted SA nakshatra rule JU and natal ketu nakshatra rule JU is placed. > > Hope this shines some further light on the subject. It would be interesting to get other natal charts of babies and their mothers, if possible, to investigate in-depth. I only mentioned here a few factors with my examples but it does highlight the JU SU MA and Venus interaction with JU predominating.. Then Mars Sun and finally Venus. > Navamsas holds clues too, to support. > > ///I can't imagine exposing babies to sunlight in costal areas like Bombay or Madras, they would simply boil! :-)/// > > Yes, exactly and without supervision in a matter of minutes!!! Furthermore, they would become very dehydrated quickly and thus would also loose a lot of internal body heat to " function properly " , as our bodies are 90% water and carry oxygen and Blood(white, red and plasma)throughout our systems. This example that you brought up emphasises with mine the importance of heat environment control for baby while Sun (indoors or out) or photo therapy (ultra Blue light)aiding Liver to breakdown used red blood cells to excrete properly through intestines. > > Looking forward to you family info when available. > > As Always, > > Uttara > > jyotish-vidya, Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji@ .....> wrote: > > > > Uttara ji, > > > > ///The problem with Vit D is it is a fat soluable vitamin and getting too much of it is just has bad if not worse for toxcity as too low./// > > > > Since Guru rules fat and since Guru and Surya are generally friendly, is there some connecton? > > > > Regarding RH factor--your comments on your son are most interesting. I will try to get RH factor for my sister, her husband and first son soon and try to post it here. > > > > Also, I think that the doctor's recommendaton of sunlight in my nephew's case may have been prompted by the fact that Bangalore, though tropical and quite close to the equator, is very much above sea leavel (over 3,000 feet, I think) and so has a very pleasant climate. I can't imagine exposing babies to sunlight in costal areas like Bombay or Madras, they would simply boil! :-) > > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > Balaji Narasimhan > > Author & Editor > > http://www.balaji. ind.in/ > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Uttara ji, ///And, I would think that Mars plays a role here also, since Mars rules blood. Venus too, since it rules the venous small blood vessels./// According to JV, Surya rules blood pressure, Chandra rules blood and blood circulation. But yes, Kuja has a role, because he rules wounds along with 6th house and Ketu. ///Looking forward to you family info when available./// My second nephew is down with fever, and so my sister is busy. Will get this data as soon as she is free. ///Vit D along with Lutin is also very good for vision/// Surya is also karaka for eyes--remember the Purusha Suktam, where it says " Chaksho Suryo Ajayatha? " (The sun came from His eyes). JV also says that Surya rules right eye specifically. ///As much as babies are strong and viable they are very fragile/delicate in the balance of functioning their little bodies in the first year of life./// My grandma used to say " poovalai adichale pun aiyidum " in Tamizh, which translated merans that even if you hit them with a flower, they will get wounds! :-) ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Dear Members, Probably planets no doubt have significance but when v infer specific disorders signficance houses and position from lagna,Atmakarak are necessary for better appreciation of meidcal Astrology. The matters relating to health(Medical AStrologY) have also been eloberated ithe offshoot of Parasari System Thro' sutras of Jamini System. " Moon aspected by Mars,the person suffers from serious complications " .The most fundamnetal is the position of Atmakaraka if free from malefics,the native will be healthy.. 2.6th house known to be houses of diseses also indicative relative affliction. The basic significance of planets is always with reference to Sun,the seed of life.All other planets in both halves(Invisble and Visble halves) contribute for good and bad of life. 3.Moon is symbolic for mind.Also bassic passions flow and work through mind..Might also be relevent here to keep in view Moon;s exaltaion in Venus owned sign of Tairus. In the Kalpurusha chakra it 2nd sign next to lagna 4Next Mars is symbolic of energy that is the driving force of the energy is symbolic of all activities of life.other wise known as vitality. 5.Planets mainly jupiter and venus while having a role as benifics prevent diseases.But their afflictions through other malefic planets contribute to ill health.what is however crucial is the house and sign involved mainly for anlysing for ill health and contributors.Finally the adage in AStrology " Nothing will happen unless Ascendant,planets there in and it;s lord get involved and the tendency process has to be judged fronm the houses. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks jyotish-vidya Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 11:45 PM  Uttara ji, ///And, I would think that Mars plays a role here also, since Mars rules blood. Venus too, since it rules the venous small blood vessels./// According to JV, Surya rules blood pressure, Chandra rules blood and blood circulation. But yes, Kuja has a role, because he rules wounds along with 6th house and Ketu. ///Looking forward to you family info when available.// / My second nephew is down with fever, and so my sister is busy. Will get this data as soon as she is free. ///Vit D along with Lutin is also very good for vision/// Surya is also karaka for eyes--remember the Purusha Suktam, where it says " Chaksho Suryo Ajayatha? " (The sun came from His eyes). JV also says that Surya rules right eye specifically. ///As much as babies are strong and viable they are very fragile/delicate in the balance of functioning their little bodies in the first year of life./// My grandma used to say " poovalai adichale pun aiyidum " in Tamizh, which translated merans that even if you hit them with a flower, they will get wounds! :-) ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji. ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Dear Krishnan and All, What sets JV apart from other groups is that we don't get bogged down with different systems (different techniques). As we know, Parasara and Jaimini are quite different in regards to the basic techniques employed; and, for the sake of clarity, I would prefer if we continued to focus exclusively on Parasara techniques...as we have endeavored to do from the beginning. The following is pasted from JV Group (welcome message): **As we know, the distinction between Parashara and Jaimini systems is not always clear as often the two very different techniques of prediction are ill-defined. It's unfortunate that many high-profile astrologers have not been able to make this distinction, resulting in many contradictions. In the simplest terms; Jaimini method uses rasi dasas, rasi aspects and chara karakas, whereas Parashara is based on graha (vimsottari) dasa, graha aspects and constant (or natural) karakas. Prof. P. S. Sastri, author of Jaimini Sutram (English translation), tells us that it's clear from a comparison of the principles outlined, that much of Jaimini system has been inserted into Parashara text, and, if the student is not careful, he will mix up the two systems and find himself in contradictions and confusions.** For those interested the following link expands on this a little... http://www.jyotishvidya.com/jaimini_or_parasara.htm Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ========================= Vattem Krishnan Wednesday, 13 January 2010 1:57 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks Dear Members, Probably planets no doubt have significance but when v infer specific disorders signficance houses and position from lagna,Atmakarak are necessary for better appreciation of meidcal Astrology. The matters relating to health(Medical AStrologY) have also been eloberated ithe offshoot of Parasari System Thro' sutras of Jamini System. " Moon aspected by Mars,the person suffers from serious complications " .The most fundamnetal is the position of Atmakaraka if free from malefics,the native will be healthy.. 2.6th house known to be houses of diseses also indicative relative affliction. The basic significance of planets is always with reference to Sun,the seed of life.All other planets in both halves(Invisble and Visble halves) contribute for good and bad of life. 3.Moon is symbolic for mind.Also bassic passions flow and work through mind..Might also be relevent here to keep in view Moon;s exaltaion in Venus owned sign of Tairus. In the Kalpurusha chakra it 2nd sign next to lagna 4Next Mars is symbolic of energy that is the driving force of the energy is symbolic of all activities of life.other wise known as vitality. 5.Planets mainly jupiter and venus while having a role as benifics prevent diseases.But their afflictions through other malefic planets contribute to ill health.what is however crucial is the house and sign involved mainly for anlysing for ill health and contributors.Finally the adage in AStrology " Nothing will happen unless Ascendant,planets there in and it;s lord get involved and the tendency process has to be judged fronm the houses. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma =============================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4765 (20100112) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Dear Mrs Wendy, Possibly what you say is rlevant when v work though internet media//if the student is not careful, he will mix up the two systems and find himself in contradictions and confusions.* *// Iam sure " interest " in learning is most important. Sounds a big task in the kind environment and learning when methodical I think filtering and taking important ones and grasp things become easy. Iam in agreement with your approach and observation. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks jyotish-vidya Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 1:32 AM  Dear Krishnan and All, What sets JV apart from other groups is that we don't get bogged down with different systems (different techniques). As we know, Parasara and Jaimini are quite different in regards to the basic techniques employed; and, for the sake of clarity, I would prefer if we continued to focus exclusively on Parasara techniques.. .as we have endeavored to do from the beginning. The following is pasted from JV Group (welcome message): **As we know, the distinction between Parashara and Jaimini systems is not always clear as often the two very different techniques of prediction are ill-defined. It's unfortunate that many high-profile astrologers have not been able to make this distinction, resulting in many contradictions. In the simplest terms; Jaimini method uses rasi dasas, rasi aspects and chara karakas, whereas Parashara is based on graha (vimsottari) dasa, graha aspects and constant (or natural) karakas. Prof. P. S. Sastri, author of Jaimini Sutram (English translation) , tells us that it's clear from a comparison of the principles outlined, that much of Jaimini system has been inserted into Parashara text, and, if the student is not careful, he will mix up the two systems and find himself in contradictions and confusions.* * For those interested the following link expands on this a little... http://www.jyotishv idya.com/ jaimini_or_ parasara. htm Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ============ ========= ==== Vattem Krishnan Wednesday, 13 January 2010 1:57 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks Dear Members, Probably planets no doubt have significance but when v infer specific disorders signficance houses and position from lagna,Atmakarak are necessary for better appreciation of meidcal Astrology. The matters relating to health(Medical AStrologY) have also been eloberated ithe offshoot of Parasari System Thro' sutras of Jamini System. " Moon aspected by Mars,the person suffers from serious complications " .The most fundamnetal is the position of Atmakaraka if free from malefics,the native will be healthy.. 2.6th house known to be houses of diseses also indicative relative affliction. The basic significance of planets is always with reference to Sun,the seed of life.All other planets in both halves(Invisble and Visble halves) contribute for good and bad of life. 3.Moon is symbolic for mind.Also bassic passions flow and work through mind...Might also be relevent here to keep in view Moon;s exaltaion in Venus owned sign of Tairus. In the Kalpurusha chakra it 2nd sign next to lagna 4Next Mars is symbolic of energy that is the driving force of the energy is symbolic of all activities of life.other wise known as vitality. 5.Planets mainly jupiter and venus while having a role as benifics prevent diseases.But their afflictions through other malefic planets contribute to ill health.what is however crucial is the house and sign involved mainly for anlysing for ill health and contributors. Finally the adage in AStrology " Nothing will happen unless Ascendant,planets there in and it;s lord get involved and the tendency process has to be judged fronm the houses. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma ============ ========= ========= = __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4765 (20100112) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Dear Krishnan, ///I am in agreement with your approach and observation./// Thank You! The point I wish to get across is that, although everything is contained within this profoundly PURE Parasari system, we have to go deep to appreciate it in full. Being well-versed in many systems, no doubt boosts the ego, but it does little to boost our understanding. We can end up amassing a whole lot of knowledge about many different systems but very little understanding about any one in particular. I've come across so many over the years who cannot discern (even) the most fundamental difference between the Parasari and Jaimini systems; and others who, although speaking with immense authority, have an appalling lack of understanding when it comes to the most fundamental significations of the grahas and bhavas. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com =========================== Vattem Krishnan Wednesday, 13 January 2010 2:43 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks Dear Mrs Wendy, Possibly what you say is rlevant when v work though internet media//if the student is not careful, he will mix up the two systems and find himself in contradictions and confusions.* *// Iam sure " interest " in learning is most important. Sounds a big task in the kind environment and learning when methodical I think filtering and taking important ones and grasp things become easy. Iam in agreement with your approach and observation. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma ================================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4766 (20100113) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Dear Baliji, and ALL, Yes, exactly! Thank you for pointing out the details of the planets in question for all. Sun is the base of all vitality/energy, without Sun one can not live. Since we were talking about Sun and Jupiter, I neglected to outline in detail Sun's vital importance against adding in Mars (blood - in bleeding out, wounds, inflammation - of atrial blood vessels, organs etc). Or explaining Sun's role in vision regrading VitD. Also, one can not ignore Moon's vital importance as she is a refection of Sun that rules or aids over many things regarding the body's function. So, too, I agree, Moon rules over blood circulation. Especially since she rules 4th hse of Heart. When we think of the importance of blood too, its circulation if normal, if free from clots and cancer cells, is vital as its function is to circulate the entire body (all its Organs, venous capillaries, arterial blood vessels) to and from the heart. Without this carrier of enriched nourishing red, white blood cells and plasma the body would not survive. If Mars or its inflammation is involved negatively then all havoc can break loose and cause great difficulty for both Sun and Moon to function properly. We must remember too that 90% of our bodies is made of water. Not only do all the organs need to be hydrated (including eyes) but the blood can only move properly with water and the oxygen we take in and then expel the carbon dixoide waste from the body. Even perspiration (water) is important to keep balance and cool the body heat temperature. Cancer is a watery sign ruled by Moon, natural 4th hse of heart, circulation etc. I think when we get in to these kinds of subjects regarding health in the natal chart, a sound knowledge of the planets and grahas is vitally important as is the knowledge of the functioning of the body and mind. This falls then into a category for students to at least study the basics of The Hindu Ayurvedic principles of health so that one can understand the function and/or temperament of grahas and planets better when delineating a natal chart using the Prikriti of Parashara techniques. It is after all in MHO the responsibility of the astrologer when advising to know the basic fundamental in character, body, mind and the psychological (learned behaviors, culture, beliefs etc) persona of the person that has come to them for guidance. This does Baliji, bring up another area of concern. And that is, how does one use the chart. As a predictive tool for events only, of marriage and death and birth OR a guidance tool to ones life choices, health, behavior and self-awareness; while guiding one to a higher level of consciousness and God realization. Delineating a chart without a sound knowledge of the grahas and planets and the persona of the person is often one sided and dry. Leaving open many errors by the astrologer. For those interested here is a link from Mrs. Wendy's website to further investigate - Medical Astrology: http://www.jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm Thanks again for bringing to my attention the details I neglected. ////My grandma used to say " poovalai adichale pun aiyidum " in Tamizh, which translated merans that even if you hit them with a flower, they will get wounds//// I like this very much and sums it up for babies quite nicely :-) As Always, Uttara p.s. hope your nephew is well on the mend. jyotish-vidya , Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: > > Uttara ji, > > ///And, I would think that Mars plays a role here also, since Mars rules blood. Venus too, since it rules the venous small blood vessels./// > > According to JV, Surya rules blood pressure, Chandra rules blood and blood circulation. But yes, Kuja has a role, because he rules wounds along with 6th house and Ketu. > > ///Looking forward to you family info when available./// > > My second nephew is down with fever, and so my sister is busy. Will get this data as soon as she is free. > > ///Vit D along with Lutin is also very good for vision/// > > Surya is also karaka for eyes--remember the Purusha Suktam, where it says " Chaksho Suryo Ajayatha? " (The sun came from His eyes). JV also says that Surya rules right eye specifically. > > ///As much as babies are strong and viable they are very fragile/delicate in the balance of functioning their little bodies in the first year of life./// > > My grandma used to say " poovalai adichale pun aiyidum " in Tamizh, which translated merans that even if you hit them with a flower, they will get wounds! :-) > > ~~~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan > Author & Editor > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > ~~~~~~~~~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 jyotish-vidya , " Uttara " <muttaraphalguni wrote: > > NOTE: take any pharse where I outline " grahas and planets " and know that I meant to write " grahas and bhavas " . > > > jyotish-vidya , " Uttara " <muttaraphalguni@> wrote: > > > > Dear Baliji, and ALL, > > > > Yes, exactly! Thank you for pointing out the details of the planets in question for all. Sun is the base of all vitality/energy, without Sun one can not live. Since we were talking about Sun and Jupiter, I neglected to outline in detail Sun's vital importance against adding in Mars (blood - in bleeding out, wounds, inflammation - of atrial blood vessels, organs etc). Or explaining Sun's role in vision regrading VitD. > > > > Also, one can not ignore Moon's vital importance as she is a refection of Sun that rules or aids over many things regarding the body's function. So, too, I agree, Moon rules over blood circulation. Especially since she rules 4th hse of Heart. When we think of the importance of blood too, its circulation if normal, if free from clots and cancer cells, is vital as its function is to circulate the entire body (all its Organs, venous capillaries, arterial blood vessels) to and from the heart. Without this carrier of enriched nourishing red, white blood cells and plasma the body would not survive. If Mars or its inflammation is involved negatively then all havoc can break loose and cause great difficulty for both Sun and Moon to function properly. > > > > We must remember too that 90% of our bodies is made of water. Not only do all the organs need to be hydrated (including eyes) but the blood can only move properly with water and the oxygen we take in and then expel the carbon dixoide waste from the body. Even perspiration (water) is important to keep balance and cool the body heat temperature. Cancer is a watery sign ruled by Moon, natural 4th hse of heart, circulation etc. > > > > I think when we get in to these kinds of subjects regarding health in the natal chart, a sound knowledge of the planets and grahas is vitally important as is the knowledge of the functioning of the body and mind. This falls then into a category for students to at least study the basics of The Hindu Ayurvedic principles of health so that one can understand the function and/or temperament of grahas and planets better when delineating a natal chart using the Prikriti of Parashara techniques. > > > > It is after all in MHO the responsibility of the astrologer when advising to know the basic fundamental in character, body, mind and the psychological (learned behaviors, culture, beliefs etc) persona of the person that has come to them for guidance. This does Baliji, bring up another area of concern. And that is, how does one use the chart. As a predictive tool for events only, of marriage and death and birth OR a guidance tool to ones life choices, health, behavior and self-awareness; while guiding one to a higher level of consciousness and God realization. Delineating a chart without a sound knowledge of the grahas and planets and the persona of the person is often one sided and dry. Leaving open many errors by the astrologer. > > > > For those interested here is a link from Mrs. Wendy's website to further investigate - Medical Astrology: > > > > http://www.jyotishvidya.com/prikriti.htm > > > > Thanks again for bringing to my attention the details I neglected. > > > > > > ////My grandma used to say " poovalai adichale pun aiyidum " in Tamizh, which translated merans that even if you hit them with a flower, they will get wounds//// > > > > I like this very much and sums it up for babies quite nicely :-) > > > > As Always, > > > > Uttara > > > > p.s. hope your nephew is well on the mend. > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > > > Uttara ji, > > > > > > ///And, I would think that Mars plays a role here also, since Mars rules blood. Venus too, since it rules the venous small blood vessels./// > > > > > > According to JV, Surya rules blood pressure, Chandra rules blood and blood circulation. But yes, Kuja has a role, because he rules wounds along with 6th house and Ketu. > > > > > > ///Looking forward to you family info when available./// > > > > > > My second nephew is down with fever, and so my sister is busy. Will get this data as soon as she is free. > > > > > > ///Vit D along with Lutin is also very good for vision/// > > > > > > Surya is also karaka for eyes--remember the Purusha Suktam, where it says " Chaksho Suryo Ajayatha? " (The sun came from His eyes). JV also says that Surya rules right eye specifically. > > > > > > ///As much as babies are strong and viable they are very fragile/delicate in the balance of functioning their little bodies in the first year of life./// > > > > > > My grandma used to say " poovalai adichale pun aiyidum " in Tamizh, which translated merans that even if you hit them with a flower, they will get wounds! :-) > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > Balaji Narasimhan > > > Author & Editor > > > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Dear VK, ///The basic significance of planets is always with reference to Sun,the seed of life/// Yes, this is true no matter what astrological system one employees. ///Moon is symbolic for mind.Also bassic passions flow and work through mind../// Yes, this also is of great relevance. Once again we see in this example how a graha can have many meanings and functions once one learns the depth of functions through grahas. ///...Mars is symbolic of energy that is the driving force of the energy.../// Mars propels us forth in all aspects of life. Without Mars, the desire of action would be non existent and we would subcumb to our environment surrounding our purpose. Negative Mars, inflamed Mars, wounded Mars, depletes the vital force of Sun and Moon's proper function of body circulation. ////...Ascendant,planets there in and it;s lord get involved and the tendency process has to be judged fronm the houses.//// Again true in any astrological system. ASC as we know is first house and rules the body of self. As Always, Uttara jyotish-vidya , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Members, > Probably planets no doubt have significance but when v infer specific disorders signficance houses and position from lagna,Atmakarak are necessary for better appreciation of meidcal Astrology. The matters relating to health(Medical AStrologY) have also been eloberated ithe offshoot of Parasari System Thro' sutras of Jamini System. > " Moon aspected by Mars,the person suffers from serious complications " .The most fundamnetal is the position of Atmakaraka if free from malefics,the native will be healthy.. > 2.6th house known to be houses of diseses also indicative relative affliction. > The basic significance of planets is always with reference to Sun,the seed of life.All other planets in both halves(Invisble and Visble halves) contribute for good and bad of life. > 3.Moon is symbolic for mind.Also bassic passions flow and work through mind..Might also be relevent here to keep in view Moon;s exaltaion in Venus owned sign of Tairus. > In the Kalpurusha chakra it 2nd sign next to lagna > 4Next Mars is symbolic of energy that is the driving force of the energy is symbolic of all activities of life.other wise known as vitality. > 5.Planets mainly jupiter and venus while having a role as benifics prevent diseases.But their afflictions through other malefic planets contribute to ill health.what is however crucial is the house and sign involved mainly for anlysing for ill health and contributors.Finally the adage in AStrology " Nothing will happen unless Ascendant,planets there in and it;s lord get involved and the tendency process has to be judged fronm the houses. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: > > > Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji > Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks > jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 11:45 PM > > >  > > > > Uttara ji, > > ///And, I would think that Mars plays a role here also, since Mars rules blood. Venus too, since it rules the venous small blood vessels./// > > According to JV, Surya rules blood pressure, Chandra rules blood and blood circulation. But yes, Kuja has a role, because he rules wounds along with 6th house and Ketu. > > ///Looking forward to you family info when available.// / > > My second nephew is down with fever, and so my sister is busy. Will get this data as soon as she is free. > > ///Vit D along with Lutin is also very good for vision/// > > Surya is also karaka for eyes--remember the Purusha Suktam, where it says " Chaksho Suryo Ajayatha? " (The sun came from His eyes). JV also says that Surya rules right eye specifically. > > ///As much as babies are strong and viable they are very fragile/delicate in the balance of functioning their little bodies in the first year of life./// > > My grandma used to say " poovalai adichale pun aiyidum " in Tamizh, which translated merans that even if you hit them with a flower, they will get wounds! :-) > > ~~~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan > Author & Editor > http://www.balaji. ind.in/ > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Wendy ji, ///I've come across so many over the years who cannot discern (even) the most fundamental difference between the Parasari and Jaimini systems;/// I once wanted to study Kala Chakra Dasa--only later did I realise that this was not part of Parasara at all! Of course, if I had studied this, I would have mixed both systems and gotten more confused that ever before! ///and others who, although speaking with immense authority, have an appalling lack of understanding when it comes to the most fundamental significations of the grahas and bhavas./// Reminds me of my grandfather. You can NEVER convince him that Guru can be bad for certain lagnas. Time and again he has told me, " But Guru is good for you " even though he knows he is Neecha in my chart. And since Kuja sees my second house, I have often been extremely rude to him on this account! :-) ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Dear Balaji, ///Reminds me of my grandfather. You can NEVER convince him that Guru can be bad for certain lagnas. Time and again he has told me, " But Guru is good for you " even though he knows he is Neecha in my chart. And since Kuja sees my second house, I have often been extremely rude to him on this account! :-)/// Oh! dear, perhaps it would be kinder to humor him...grandparents are really quite precious, don't you agree. But you're quite right that Jupiter is a functional malefic for certain lagnas...this applies to both yours and my own chart. However we need to be mindful that, providing he has sufficient strength (exalted etc), some good results related to the houses he rules can come about during his mahadasa. Sub dasas, where his malefic influence is brought to bear upon other dasa lords, can bring less than favorable results. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com =============================== Balaji Narasimhan Thursday, 14 January 2010 12:38 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks Wendy ji, ///I've come across so many over the years who cannot discern (even) the most fundamental difference between the Parasari and Jaimini systems;/// I once wanted to study Kala Chakra Dasa--only later did I realise that this was not part of Parasara at all! Of course, if I had studied this, I would have mixed both systems and gotten more confused that ever before! ///and others who, although speaking with immense authority, have an appalling lack of understanding when it comes to the most fundamental significations of the grahas and bhavas./// Reminds me of my grandfather. You can NEVER convince him that Guru can be bad for certain lagnas. Time and again he has told me, " But Guru is good for you " even though he knows he is Neecha in my chart. And since Kuja sees my second house, I have often been extremely rude to him on this account! :-) ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ ============================= __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4769 (20100113) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Dear Mrs Wendyand members //Grand Parents are really precious// Absolutely they took so much pain to fondle and care. Grand papa was right in his in his faith and conviction.Jyotish menas for different people in different ways to have optimism in the out look. We have many seers dealing with jyotish from classical times.Parasara laid emphsis very much on basics and very impress enough to meaningfully anlyse from dasa system of 9 planets. Several others also took keen interest and decipherd about the impact of planets based on nakshtras.ultimately it is all our ability and meaningful to adore or admonish.yet jyotish finds in it's when solutions are offered by meaningful approaches. Grand Parents always shown their optimism,patience and wished for Good.If Guru what evr might be avastha if he is not good who else can be?That is one side of the coin ...//some good results related to the houses he rules can come //In pratyantar or antar his basic nature in a positive manner will certainle exhibited. The other side v know good people too are bad enough.They attempt to do bad only when they r incited(I mean karmas) Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks jyotish-vidya Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:55 AM  Dear Balaji, ///Reminds me of my grandfather. You can NEVER convince him that Guru can be bad for certain lagnas. Time and again he has told me, " But Guru is good for you " even though he knows he is Neecha in my chart. And since Kuja sees my second house, I have often been extremely rude to him on this account! :-)/// Oh! dear, perhaps it would be kinder to humor him...grandparents are really quite precious, don't you agree. But you're quite right that Jupiter is a functional malefic for certain lagnas...this applies to both yours and my own chart. However we need to be mindful that, providing he has sufficient strength (exalted etc), some good results related to the houses he rules can come about during his mahadasa. Sub dasas, where his malefic influence is brought to bear upon other dasa lords, can bring less than favorable results. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ============ ========= ========= = Balaji Narasimhan Thursday, 14 January 2010 12:38 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks Wendy ji, ///I've come across so many over the years who cannot discern (even) the most fundamental difference between the Parasari and Jaimini systems;/// I once wanted to study Kala Chakra Dasa--only later did I realise that this was not part of Parasara at all! Of course, if I had studied this, I would have mixed both systems and gotten more confused that ever before! ///and others who, although speaking with immense authority, have an appalling lack of understanding when it comes to the most fundamental significations of the grahas and bhavas./// Reminds me of my grandfather. You can NEVER convince him that Guru can be bad for certain lagnas. Time and again he has told me, " But Guru is good for you " even though he knows he is Neecha in my chart. And since Kuja sees my second house, I have often been extremely rude to him on this account! :-) ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji. ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ ============ ========= ======== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4769 (20100113) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Dear Krishnan, ///In pratyantar or antar his basic nature in a positive manner will certainle exhibited./// Unfortunately I do have to disagree with this (as a blanket statement). It depends totally on the houses Jupiter rules and his overall position and strength in the nativity. As a functional malefic he IS capable of delivering adverse results during the dasa of other planets. Of course much needs to be considered before coming to a conclusion i.e. his relationship with dasa lord, nature of dasa lord itself etc, etc.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ================================ Vattem Krishnan Thursday, 14 January 2010 2:26 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks Dear Mrs Wendyand members //Grand Parents are really precious// Absolutely they took so much pain to fondle and care. Grand papa was right in his in his faith and conviction.Jyotish menas for different people in different ways to have optimism in the out look. We have many seers dealing with jyotish from classical times.Parasara laid emphsis very much on basics and very impress enough to meaningfully anlyse from dasa system of 9 planets. Several others also took keen interest and decipherd about the impact of planets based on nakshtras.ultimately it is all our ability and meaningful to adore or admonish.yet jyotish finds in it's when solutions are offered by meaningful approaches. Grand Parents always shown their optimism,patience and wished for Good.If Guru what evr might be avastha if he is not good who else can be?That is one side of the coin ...//some good results related to the houses he rules can come //In pratyantar or antar his basic nature in a positive manner will certainle exhibited. The other side v know good people too are bad enough.They attempt to do bad only when they r incited(I mean karmas) Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma ======================================= __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4769 (20100113) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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