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Dear Mrs Wendy,

When Guru disagrees and opines.students learn.That is how Vidya gets imparted

Also in jyotish every thing matters as v genarlly refer as PAC,dasa lord.sign

posited.sign lord,bahva lord,This is how jyotish becomes comrehensive and of

meaning to know thing at store in future and past.

 

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Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

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Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks

jyotish-vidya

Thursday, January 14, 2010, 2:14 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishnan,

 

///In pratyantar or antar his basic nature in a positive manner will certainle

exhibited.// /

 

Unfortunately I do have to disagree with this (as a blanket statement). It

depends totally on the houses Jupiter rules and his overall position and

strength in the nativity. As a functional malefic he IS capable of delivering

adverse results during the dasa of other planets.

 

Of course much needs to be considered before coming to a conclusion i.e. his

relationship with dasa lord, nature of dasa lord itself etc, etc..

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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Vattem Krishnan

Thursday, 14 January 2010 2:26 PM

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Dear Mrs Wendyand members

//Grand Parents are really precious// Absolutely they took so much pain to

fondle and care.

Grand papa was right in his in his faith and conviction.Jyotish menas for

different people in different ways to have optimism in the out look.

We have many seers dealing with jyotish from classical times.Parasara laid

emphsis very much on basics and very impress enough to meaningfully anlyse from

dasa system of 9 planets.

Several others also took keen interest and decipherd about the impact of planets

based on nakshtras.ultimatel y it is all our ability and meaningful to adore or

admonish.yet jyotish finds in it's when solutions are offered by meaningful

approaches.

Grand Parents always shown their optimism,patience and wished for Good.If Guru

what evr might be avastha if he is not good who else can be?That is one side of

the coin

....//some good results related to the houses he rules can come //In pratyantar

or antar his basic nature in a positive manner will certainle exhibited.

The other side v know good people too are bad enough.They attempt to do bad only

when they r incited(I mean karmas)

 

Vattem Krishnan

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Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

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Dear Krishnan,

 

///When Guru disagrees and opines.students learn.That is how Vidya gets

imparted///

 

I absolutely agree!

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

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Vattem Krishnan

Thursday, 14 January 2010 3:24 PM

jyotish-vidya

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Dear Mrs Wendy,

When Guru disagrees and opines.students learn.That is how Vidya gets imparted

Also in jyotish every thing matters as v genarlly refer as PAC,dasa lord.sign

posited.sign lord,bahva lord,This is how jyotish becomes comrehensive and of

meaning to know thing at store in future and past.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

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Krishnan ji,

 

///Grand papa was right in his in his faith and conviction.///

 

I'm sure that you have heard about Nakeeran telling Lord Shiva that " Netri Kanna

Tarandalum Kutram Kutram Dhan " . (Even if you open your third eye, a mistake is a

mistake). One should respect one's elders, but Parasara made ONE book for all of

us, not one for all of us and another for my grandpa!

 

Several times, I have borne the brunt of neecha Guru--and at such times, it is

irritating to hear " But Guru is good for you " from my grandpa. Once, I asked him

to tell me the difference between functional benefics and malefics and he

couldn't.

 

I respect you, Wendy ji and my grandpa--but Jyotish advice I will take from you

and Wendy ji, because you KNOW the subject.

 

My grandpa is old and learned in the Vedas and I respect him for that. But he

does not know Jyotish fundamentals, and in this context, I don't listen to him

at all.

 

///The other side v know good people too are bad enough.They attempt to do bad

only when they r incited(I mean karmas)///

 

So true! :-) My grandpa has Makara Lagna with Guru in the 5th, can't get along

with his children, and still persists in the false belief that Guru is good for

him! I oppose him because he believes Guru to be infallible; I treat him as just

another graha, who is good to some and bad to others based upon Lagna, position

in birth chart and gochara, etc.

 

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Dear Mr Balaji

The culprit might be Guru and beyond doubt " borne the brunt of neecha Guru "

never hesitates to be a big spoiler and does not hesitate to be a mrityatulya

problem.

Might also be knowing and in any case has no relevance for you as in some of the

persons known for their bad reputation,the role of neecha guru that encouraged

them and landed them into that bad sahpe

Nakeeran is a " triloki " and is a jester in the eyes of common man.A great

philosopher.Highly learned man and Author of Narada Samhita having an account of

Astronomy and Astrology.nakeeran can only warrant a highly emotional and great

embodiment " Natarajan " Neelagantan "

//Nakeeran telling Lord Shiva that " Netri Kanna Tarandalum Kutram Kutram Dhan " .

(Even if you open your third eye, a mistake is a mistake).//

2.Learned person having knowledge of vedas for them Grahas and jyotish have a

different understanding.For then no planet is malefic except bhavadhipatis of

ripu,randhra and nashta meaning 6th,8th and 12th.

3.Infact i doubt their faith in Astrology as great learned men and there by

philosopher.

4.with genaration gap when we talk they listen half heartedly.Grand papas of

that generation having seen many ups and downs of life,their convictions are

beyond our perceptions unless they are ready to open up and discuss.

God bless.jyotish is more akind of ''phenomenology " to understand in the context

of mind and body interactions.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote:

 

 

Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji

Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks

jyotish-vidya

Thursday, January 14, 2010, 11:19 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Krishnan ji,

 

///Grand papa was right in his in his faith and conviction./ //

 

I'm sure that you have heard about Nakeeran telling Lord Shiva that " Netri Kanna

Tarandalum Kutram Kutram Dhan " . (Even if you open your third eye, a mistake is a

mistake). One should respect one's elders, but Parasara made ONE book for all of

us, not one for all of us and another for my grandpa!

 

Several times, I have borne the brunt of neecha Guru--and at such times, it is

irritating to hear " But Guru is good for you " from my grandpa. Once, I asked him

to tell me the difference between functional benefics and malefics and he

couldn't.

 

I respect you, Wendy ji and my grandpa--but Jyotish advice I will take from you

and Wendy ji, because you KNOW the subject.

 

My grandpa is old and learned in the Vedas and I respect him for that. But he

does not know Jyotish fundamentals, and in this context, I don't listen to him

at all.

 

///The other

side v know good people too are bad enough.They attempt to do bad only when

they r incited(I mean karmas)///

 

So true! :-) My grandpa has Makara Lagna with Guru in the 5th, can't get along

with his children, and still persists in the false belief that Guru is good for

him! I oppose him because he believes Guru to be infallible; I treat him as just

another graha, who is good to some and bad to others based upon Lagna, position

in birth chart and gochara, etc.

 

~~~~~~~~~

Balaji Narasimhan

Author & Editor

http://www.balaji. ind.in/

~~~~~~~~~

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With due regards to learned members, If I am permitted to write a line in

this thread,

 

Jupiter is " Ganga Jal " . Ganga can become full of mire and polluted. Still

Ganga is Ganga. So is Jupiter. If Jupiter sprinkles the so called purity

on any house by its aspect, that house flourishes irrespective of his

attined lordship or it is being retrograde or with Rahu and Ketu. He is the

ultimate saviour in a chart.

 

It is somewhat difficult to understand and digest certain principles and

certain notions what elders had possessed and preached... it takes time even

a life time .....

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

 

 

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Great !Very pointed way of telling truth abou elders9Grand parents?)

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

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Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Fri, 1/15/10, C.S. Ravindramani <ravindramani wrote:

 

 

C.S. Ravindramani <ravindramani

Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks

jyotish-vidya

Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:48 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

With due regards to learned members, If I am permitted to write a line in

this thread,

 

Jupiter is " Ganga Jal " . Ganga can become full of mire and polluted. Still

Ganga is Ganga. So is Jupiter. If Jupiter sprinkles the so called purity

on any house by its aspect, that house flourishes irrespective of his

attined lordship or it is being retrograde or with Rahu and Ketu. He is the

ultimate saviour in a chart.

 

It is somewhat difficult to understand and digest certain principles and

certain notions what elders had possessed and preached... it takes time even

a life time .....

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

 

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Dear Ravindramani,

 

Certainly the significations of Jupiter do NOT change. He is still the

significator of children, happiness, wealth and so forth...this doesn't change!

However, my own experience of Jupiter sub-periods has left me in no doubt

whatsoever that his lordship is brought very much to bear during his sub-period

of other planets.

 

Jupiter sub-dasas saw me constantly on the move...from one home to another, one

state to another, one country to another...losses (unending) were the order of

the day, loss of wealth, loss of comforts, loss of happiness, loss of affection

from children etc, etc.. Does this sound like 12th house (Jupiter's

moolatrikona)...indeed it does!

 

On the other hand, during Jupiter mahadasa, all the above flourished and it was

indeed the most blessed time of my life...

 

It's not just my own experience, I can cite many other charts that have also

known the effect of F/M Jupiter...

 

Parasara cites similar affects under certain conditions. See BPHS Ch.58

http://jyotishvidya.com/ch58.htm

 

**56-58½. Effects, like physical felicity, gain of wealth, beneficence of the

king, celebration of auspicious functions, like marriage etc., at home,

availability of sweetish preparations, increase in cattle wealth, attending

discourses on Puranas etc., devotion to deities and the preceptor, interest in

religion, charities etc., worship of Lord Shiva etc., will be derived in the

Antar Dasha of Guru in the Dasha of Budh, if Guru is in a Kendr, Trikon, or in

Labh, or, if Guru is in his exaltation, or in his own Rashi.

 

 

59-61. Discord with king and kinsmen, danger from thieves etc., death of

parents, disgrace, punishment from government, loss of wealth, danger from

snakes and poison, fever, losses in agricultural production, loss of lands etc.,

will be the results, if Guru is in his debilitation Rashi, is combust, or is in

Ari, Randhr, or in Vyaya, or, if Guru is associated with, or receives a Drishti

from Sani and Mangal.

 

 

62-63½. There will be happiness from kinsmen and from one's son, enthusiasm,

increase in wealth and name and fame, giving grains etc. in charity, if Guru is

in a Kendr, Trikon, or in the 11th from the Lord of the Dasha and, if Guru is

endowed with strength.

 

 

64-64½. Agony, anxiety, danger from diseases, antagonism with wife and kinsmen,

wrath of the king, quarrels, loss of wealth, danger from Brahmins will be the

results, if Guru is weak and, if Guru is in the 6th, 8th, or 12th from the Lord

of the Dasha.

 

 

65-66. There will be physical distress, if Guru is Dhan's, or Yuvati's Lord, or,

if Guru is in Dhan, or Yuvati. The remedial measures to obtain relief from the

above evil effects are recitation of Shiva Sahasranam and giving a cow and gold

in charity.**

 

The above quote being just a small sample of course...

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

 

 

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C.S. Ravindramani

Friday, 15 January 2010 2:48 PM

jyotish-vidya

Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks

 

 

 

With due regards to learned members, If I am permitted to write a line in

this thread,

 

Jupiter is " Ganga Jal " . Ganga can become full of mire and polluted. Still

Ganga is Ganga. So is Jupiter. If Jupiter sprinkles the so called purity

on any house by its aspect, that house flourishes irrespective of his

attined lordship or it is being retrograde or with Rahu and Ketu. He is the

ultimate saviour in a chart.

 

It is somewhat difficult to understand and digest certain principles and

certain notions what elders had possessed and preached... it takes time even

a life time .....

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

 

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Dear Ravindramani,

 

///Jupiter is " Ganga Jal " . Ganga can become full of mire and polluted. Still

Ganga is Ganga. So is Jupiter.///

 

People (and even elephants) are still swept away and drown in the Ganga, are

they not? I'm not for one moment disputing the blessed nature of Ganga or of

Jupiter; but, under certain conditions, both can be harmful.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

 

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