Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Dear Mrs Wendy, When Guru disagrees and opines.students learn.That is how Vidya gets imparted Also in jyotish every thing matters as v genarlly refer as PAC,dasa lord.sign posited.sign lord,bahva lord,This is how jyotish becomes comrehensive and of meaning to know thing at store in future and past. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks jyotish-vidya Thursday, January 14, 2010, 2:14 AM  Dear Krishnan, ///In pratyantar or antar his basic nature in a positive manner will certainle exhibited.// / Unfortunately I do have to disagree with this (as a blanket statement). It depends totally on the houses Jupiter rules and his overall position and strength in the nativity. As a functional malefic he IS capable of delivering adverse results during the dasa of other planets. Of course much needs to be considered before coming to a conclusion i.e. his relationship with dasa lord, nature of dasa lord itself etc, etc.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ============ ========= ========= == Vattem Krishnan Thursday, 14 January 2010 2:26 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks Dear Mrs Wendyand members //Grand Parents are really precious// Absolutely they took so much pain to fondle and care. Grand papa was right in his in his faith and conviction.Jyotish menas for different people in different ways to have optimism in the out look. We have many seers dealing with jyotish from classical times.Parasara laid emphsis very much on basics and very impress enough to meaningfully anlyse from dasa system of 9 planets. Several others also took keen interest and decipherd about the impact of planets based on nakshtras.ultimatel y it is all our ability and meaningful to adore or admonish.yet jyotish finds in it's when solutions are offered by meaningful approaches. Grand Parents always shown their optimism,patience and wished for Good.If Guru what evr might be avastha if he is not good who else can be?That is one side of the coin ....//some good results related to the houses he rules can come //In pratyantar or antar his basic nature in a positive manner will certainle exhibited. The other side v know good people too are bad enough.They attempt to do bad only when they r incited(I mean karmas) Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma ============ ========= ========= ========= __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4769 (20100113) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Dear Krishnan, ///When Guru disagrees and opines.students learn.That is how Vidya gets imparted/// I absolutely agree! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ============================= Vattem Krishnan Thursday, 14 January 2010 3:24 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks Dear Mrs Wendy, When Guru disagrees and opines.students learn.That is how Vidya gets imparted Also in jyotish every thing matters as v genarlly refer as PAC,dasa lord.sign posited.sign lord,bahva lord,This is how jyotish becomes comrehensive and of meaning to know thing at store in future and past. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma ===================================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4769 (20100113) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Krishnan ji, ///Grand papa was right in his in his faith and conviction./// I'm sure that you have heard about Nakeeran telling Lord Shiva that " Netri Kanna Tarandalum Kutram Kutram Dhan " . (Even if you open your third eye, a mistake is a mistake). One should respect one's elders, but Parasara made ONE book for all of us, not one for all of us and another for my grandpa! Several times, I have borne the brunt of neecha Guru--and at such times, it is irritating to hear " But Guru is good for you " from my grandpa. Once, I asked him to tell me the difference between functional benefics and malefics and he couldn't. I respect you, Wendy ji and my grandpa--but Jyotish advice I will take from you and Wendy ji, because you KNOW the subject. My grandpa is old and learned in the Vedas and I respect him for that. But he does not know Jyotish fundamentals, and in this context, I don't listen to him at all. ///The other side v know good people too are bad enough.They attempt to do bad only when they r incited(I mean karmas)/// So true! :-) My grandpa has Makara Lagna with Guru in the 5th, can't get along with his children, and still persists in the false belief that Guru is good for him! I oppose him because he believes Guru to be infallible; I treat him as just another graha, who is good to some and bad to others based upon Lagna, position in birth chart and gochara, etc. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Dear Mr Balaji The culprit might be Guru and beyond doubt " borne the brunt of neecha Guru " never hesitates to be a big spoiler and does not hesitate to be a mrityatulya problem. Might also be knowing and in any case has no relevance for you as in some of the persons known for their bad reputation,the role of neecha guru that encouraged them and landed them into that bad sahpe Nakeeran is a " triloki " and is a jester in the eyes of common man.A great philosopher.Highly learned man and Author of Narada Samhita having an account of Astronomy and Astrology.nakeeran can only warrant a highly emotional and great embodiment " Natarajan " Neelagantan " //Nakeeran telling Lord Shiva that " Netri Kanna Tarandalum Kutram Kutram Dhan " . (Even if you open your third eye, a mistake is a mistake).// 2.Learned person having knowledge of vedas for them Grahas and jyotish have a different understanding.For then no planet is malefic except bhavadhipatis of ripu,randhra and nashta meaning 6th,8th and 12th. 3.Infact i doubt their faith in Astrology as great learned men and there by philosopher. 4.with genaration gap when we talk they listen half heartedly.Grand papas of that generation having seen many ups and downs of life,their convictions are beyond our perceptions unless they are ready to open up and discuss. God bless.jyotish is more akind of ''phenomenology " to understand in the context of mind and body interactions. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks jyotish-vidya Thursday, January 14, 2010, 11:19 PM  Krishnan ji, ///Grand papa was right in his in his faith and conviction./ // I'm sure that you have heard about Nakeeran telling Lord Shiva that " Netri Kanna Tarandalum Kutram Kutram Dhan " . (Even if you open your third eye, a mistake is a mistake). One should respect one's elders, but Parasara made ONE book for all of us, not one for all of us and another for my grandpa! Several times, I have borne the brunt of neecha Guru--and at such times, it is irritating to hear " But Guru is good for you " from my grandpa. Once, I asked him to tell me the difference between functional benefics and malefics and he couldn't. I respect you, Wendy ji and my grandpa--but Jyotish advice I will take from you and Wendy ji, because you KNOW the subject. My grandpa is old and learned in the Vedas and I respect him for that. But he does not know Jyotish fundamentals, and in this context, I don't listen to him at all. ///The other side v know good people too are bad enough.They attempt to do bad only when they r incited(I mean karmas)/// So true! :-) My grandpa has Makara Lagna with Guru in the 5th, can't get along with his children, and still persists in the false belief that Guru is good for him! I oppose him because he believes Guru to be infallible; I treat him as just another graha, who is good to some and bad to others based upon Lagna, position in birth chart and gochara, etc. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji. ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 With due regards to learned members, If I am permitted to write a line in this thread, Jupiter is " Ganga Jal " . Ganga can become full of mire and polluted. Still Ganga is Ganga. So is Jupiter. If Jupiter sprinkles the so called purity on any house by its aspect, that house flourishes irrespective of his attined lordship or it is being retrograde or with Rahu and Ketu. He is the ultimate saviour in a chart. It is somewhat difficult to understand and digest certain principles and certain notions what elders had possessed and preached... it takes time even a life time ..... Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Great !Very pointed way of telling truth abou elders9Grand parents?) Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Fri, 1/15/10, C.S. Ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: C.S. Ravindramani <ravindramani Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks jyotish-vidya Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:48 AM  With due regards to learned members, If I am permitted to write a line in this thread, Jupiter is " Ganga Jal " . Ganga can become full of mire and polluted. Still Ganga is Ganga. So is Jupiter. If Jupiter sprinkles the so called purity on any house by its aspect, that house flourishes irrespective of his attined lordship or it is being retrograde or with Rahu and Ketu. He is the ultimate saviour in a chart. It is somewhat difficult to understand and digest certain principles and certain notions what elders had possessed and preached... it takes time even a life time ..... Regards, C.S. Ravindramani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Dear Ravindramani, Certainly the significations of Jupiter do NOT change. He is still the significator of children, happiness, wealth and so forth...this doesn't change! However, my own experience of Jupiter sub-periods has left me in no doubt whatsoever that his lordship is brought very much to bear during his sub-period of other planets. Jupiter sub-dasas saw me constantly on the move...from one home to another, one state to another, one country to another...losses (unending) were the order of the day, loss of wealth, loss of comforts, loss of happiness, loss of affection from children etc, etc.. Does this sound like 12th house (Jupiter's moolatrikona)...indeed it does! On the other hand, during Jupiter mahadasa, all the above flourished and it was indeed the most blessed time of my life... It's not just my own experience, I can cite many other charts that have also known the effect of F/M Jupiter... Parasara cites similar affects under certain conditions. See BPHS Ch.58 http://jyotishvidya.com/ch58.htm **56-58½. Effects, like physical felicity, gain of wealth, beneficence of the king, celebration of auspicious functions, like marriage etc., at home, availability of sweetish preparations, increase in cattle wealth, attending discourses on Puranas etc., devotion to deities and the preceptor, interest in religion, charities etc., worship of Lord Shiva etc., will be derived in the Antar Dasha of Guru in the Dasha of Budh, if Guru is in a Kendr, Trikon, or in Labh, or, if Guru is in his exaltation, or in his own Rashi. 59-61. Discord with king and kinsmen, danger from thieves etc., death of parents, disgrace, punishment from government, loss of wealth, danger from snakes and poison, fever, losses in agricultural production, loss of lands etc., will be the results, if Guru is in his debilitation Rashi, is combust, or is in Ari, Randhr, or in Vyaya, or, if Guru is associated with, or receives a Drishti from Sani and Mangal. 62-63½. There will be happiness from kinsmen and from one's son, enthusiasm, increase in wealth and name and fame, giving grains etc. in charity, if Guru is in a Kendr, Trikon, or in the 11th from the Lord of the Dasha and, if Guru is endowed with strength. 64-64½. Agony, anxiety, danger from diseases, antagonism with wife and kinsmen, wrath of the king, quarrels, loss of wealth, danger from Brahmins will be the results, if Guru is weak and, if Guru is in the 6th, 8th, or 12th from the Lord of the Dasha. 65-66. There will be physical distress, if Guru is Dhan's, or Yuvati's Lord, or, if Guru is in Dhan, or Yuvati. The remedial measures to obtain relief from the above evil effects are recitation of Shiva Sahasranam and giving a cow and gold in charity.** The above quote being just a small sample of course... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ===================================== C.S. Ravindramani Friday, 15 January 2010 2:48 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Vitamin D and heart attacks With due regards to learned members, If I am permitted to write a line in this thread, Jupiter is " Ganga Jal " . Ganga can become full of mire and polluted. Still Ganga is Ganga. So is Jupiter. If Jupiter sprinkles the so called purity on any house by its aspect, that house flourishes irrespective of his attined lordship or it is being retrograde or with Rahu and Ketu. He is the ultimate saviour in a chart. It is somewhat difficult to understand and digest certain principles and certain notions what elders had possessed and preached... it takes time even a life time ..... Regards, C.S. Ravindramani ================================= __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4773 (20100114) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Dear Ravindramani, ///Jupiter is " Ganga Jal " . Ganga can become full of mire and polluted. Still Ganga is Ganga. So is Jupiter./// People (and even elephants) are still swept away and drown in the Ganga, are they not? I'm not for one moment disputing the blessed nature of Ganga or of Jupiter; but, under certain conditions, both can be harmful. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com =============================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4773 (20100114) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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