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Dear Members.

Pl check the data of haiti please as given by a friend

Haiti's independence chart is as follows:

 

1st jan, 1804

12.00 LMT +4:50:44

Gonaives, Haiti, 19 N 27, 72W41

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

 

 

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

Re: Re: Disaster in Haiti

jyotish-vidya

Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:23 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mrs.Uttara.Mrs.Wendy and others.

From the reports it is seen that in Haiti Presidents Office,Parliament, Schools

and Hospital were severly damaged.

Ihad applied Prasna chart based on the media reports.I will be revrting as some

body also given time of Haiti in dependence chart yester day.

Ketu was raising at 16.30 GMT Punarvasu.Lagna was in Aridra3rd of Geming ruled

by Mercury a dual sign.Ketu karak for moksha in jupiter nakshtra in lagna

chart.indication as an abrupt event and the influence particulalrly on rulers

and in ruling places like parliament etc.

Mo,me,Ra and sun happened to be in fiery sign dual in behaviour..In  lagna

chart sa,was in4thi n pisces jala rasi,saturn in retrograde happened to be in

2nd from lagna(pisces)in watery sign.

2 great malefics both retrograde,one (sat) in debilitation and mars exalted

with venus in 11th of Makara navamsa looked to be indicating severity and huamn

loss in large proportion.

Dasa of venus posited in 8th in lagna chart is aspected mars in 2nd.Lord of

2nd,cancer in 7th with Rahu,sun,mer

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Uttara <muttaraphalguni wrote:

 

 

Uttara <muttaraphalguni

Re: Disaster in Haiti

jyotish-vidya

Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:52 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mrs. Wendy and All,

 

I am glad to see this subject opened for discussion as I wrote last evening

requesting anyone who would have Haiti's chart. Unfortunately, I lose the post

and could not retrieve it.

 

I was tempted to try again but left it as I was very tired and hoped that this

horrific subject would be brought up in good time.

 

I will leave it to members to continue to respond as you have already laid out

what I was asking and the delineation of Haiti chart is well underway.

 

I will leave saying this. Hell has met earth in Haiti.

The horrific devastation and the severe trauma of its people with crushing

injuries that have left 1 out of 3 dead from internal bleeding, bleeding out of

wounds or lost limbs; head injuries, no water to sustain electrolytes, protein

spilling into Kidneys and Urine from Shock; no coverage from the heat and

dust,compromising body temperature and Sun's rays, and no Haiti government or

medical aid per say to help effectively.

 

Once the rescue teams and health aid and equipment come in from other nations,

help will be there for the Haitian people who have survived.

In the meantime, Hell has grip the people in fear and that will be the hardest

to mend in the future, as many too will be forever displaced from their homeland

and their love ones.

 

I am sure the natal chart of the country will be able to see this also. There

for the grace of God go us. In our deepest kneeling position, Pray for the

humanity of the Haitian people.

 

As Always,

 

Uttara

 

jyotish-vidya, " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Group,

>

> The terrible disaster in Haiti (on the news a little while ago) prompted me to

take a look at the independence chart for Haiti. Jan 1st 1804 (00:00)

Port-au-Prince, Haiti.

>

> Providing the chart is correct, the dasa at time of earthquake was

SA-ME-SA-JU. Members may recall the discussions we've had here previously

regarding the role Ketu plays in respect to these catastrophe' s... Ketu =

sudden events, uncontrollable mass of energy, panic etc, etc.. See more here

http://www.jyotishv idya.com/ planets.htm

>

> Note: Dasa/Pratyantar lord Saturn (in lagna) occupying nakshatra of Ketu's

dispositor (Moon)...in both natal chart and transit, whilst Moon himself was

transiting nakshatra of Ketu...transit antardasa lord Mercury also occupied

nakshatra of Ketu...

>

> Must leave it here for now as I need to prepare the evening meal. I look

forward to members comments on this chart.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya .com

>

>

>

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To All,

 

From a Spiritual column, I thought to pass on for its gratitude we

have as well as our compassion.

 

Thursday, January 14, 2010

 

The Lessons of Haiti

by Alexander Green

Dear Reader,

 

What can be said about Haiti that hasn't already been said this week?

 

Already the poorest nation in the Western hemisphere, Tuesday's earthquake has

left tens of thousands dead and injured and trapped hundreds of thousands more

in the rubble.

 

This catastrophe will surely go down as one of the worst natural disasters of

all time. Yet events like these tend to occur with depressing regularity.

 

It seems like only yesterday - in fact, it's astonishing to realize it was five

years ago - that an undersea earthquake off Sumatra caused a tsunami with waves

up to 100 feet high, killing nearly 230,000 people in fourteen countries.

 

As in Haiti, the people in the vicinity were simply going about their business -

and had virtually no warning.

 

Earthquakes aren't the only culprits, of course. In 2005, Hurricane Katrina

slammed the Gulf Coast, leaving more than 2,000 dead.

 

In 1985, Nevado Del Ruiz claimed more than 25,000 lives in Colombia, mostly from

the mudflow that resulted from the volcanic eruption.

 

Historian David McCullough wrote movingly about one of the great disasters in

American history, the Johnstown Flood. After especially heavy rains one year,

the South Fork Dam broke, sending 20 million tons of water at 40 mph toward the

city of 30,000 below.

 

According to Victor Heiser, a survivor who rode a section of his barn roof to

safety, " I could see a huge wall advancing with incredible rapidity down the

diagonal street. It was not recognizable as water, it was a dark mass, seething

with houses, freight cars, trees and animals. " Thousands died.

 

Yet even this disaster pales in comparison to the massive Yellow River Flood of

1931. Historians estimate that it killed between one and four million rural

Chinese.

 

Even if you're fortunate enough to live in an area where the ground doesn't

shake, hurricanes don't blow, and tornadoes are unlikely to lift your roof off

in the middle of the night, there are other natural threats, including The Big

One.

 

On March 23, 1989, an asteroid bigger than an aircraft carrier - more than a

half-mile wide - traveling at 46,000 miles per hour, passed through Earth's

orbit less than 400,000 miles away.

 

400,000 miles may not sound like a close shave, but in astronomical terms this

was a near miss. Earth had been at that point just six hours earlier. Had the

asteroid struck our planet, scientists estimate the energy released would have

been equivalent to 1,000 to 2,500 megatons of TNT (or 1,000-2,500 one-megaton

hydrogen bombs). It could have been what NASA calls, with some understatement,

" a civilization-ending event. "

 

No one saw the asteroid until it had already passed by. And to think you lived

to tell your grandkids about it...

 

Throughout history, tens of millions of our relatives and ancestors have

succumbed to earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, tornados, cyclones, tsunamis,

droughts, famines and pandemics. The idea that these are " acts of God " - in the

literal sense - is a tough concept to swallow.

 

Yet if there is anything good to be said about the events in Haiti this week, it

is how millions around the world are now putting their troubles and

self-interests aside - at least for a moment - to lend a hand.

 

The situation is dire. Yet money, food, clothing, medicine and other essentials

are pouring in.

 

If you'd like to help, feel free to donate locally, dial the Red Cross, or give

to one of the world's very best agencies for disaster relief - The International

Rescue Committee.

 

Today's crisis in Haiti can help us put our own lives in perspective. The

security of your job, the performance of your 401(k) and the size of your bank

account are pretty small potatoes compared to the idea of having a child or

grandchild trapped inside a collapsed schoolhouse.

 

So consider the suffering in Haiti. And express a bit of gratitude.

 

Except for the sheerest accidents of birth and circumstance, it could be you and

your family in the rubble.

 

Carpe Diem,

 

Alex

 

 

 

 

jyotish-vidya , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Members.

> Pl check the data of haiti please as given by a friend

> Haiti's independence chart is as follows:

>

> 1st jan, 1804

> 12.00 LMT +4:50:44

> Gonaives, Haiti, 19 N 27, 72W41

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

> Re: Re: Disaster in Haiti

> jyotish-vidya

> Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:23 PM

>

Dear Mrs.Uttara.Mrs.Wendy and others.

> From the reports it is seen that in Haiti Presidents Office,Parliament,

Schools and Hospital were severly damaged.

> Ihad applied Prasna chart based on the media reports.I will be revrting as

some body also given time of Haiti in dependence chart yester day.

> Ketu was raising at 16.30 GMT Punarvasu.Lagna was in Aridra3rd of Geming ruled

by Mercury a dual sign.Ketu karak for moksha in jupiter nakshtra in lagna

chart.indication as an abrupt event and the influence particulalrly on rulers

and in ruling places like parliament etc.

> Mo,me,Ra and sun happened to be in fiery sign dual in behaviour..In  lagna

chart sa,was in4thi n pisces jala rasi,saturn in retrograde happened to be in

2nd from lagna(pisces)in watery sign.

> 2 great malefics both retrograde,one (sat) in debilitation and mars exalted

with venus in 11th of Makara navamsa looked to be indicating severity and huamn

loss in large proportion.

> Dasa of venus posited in 8th in lagna chart is aspected mars in 2nd.Lord of

2nd,cancer in 7th with Rahu,sun,mer

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Uttara <muttaraphalguni wrote:

>

>

> Uttara <muttaraphalguni

> Re: Disaster in Haiti

> jyotish-vidya

> Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:52 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Mrs. Wendy and All,

>

> I am glad to see this subject opened for discussion as I wrote last evening

requesting anyone who would have Haiti's chart. Unfortunately, I lose the post

and could not retrieve it.

>

> I was tempted to try again but left it as I was very tired and hoped that this

horrific subject would be brought up in good time.

>

> I will leave it to members to continue to respond as you have already laid out

what I was asking and the delineation of Haiti chart is well underway.

>

> I will leave saying this. Hell has met earth in Haiti.

> The horrific devastation and the severe trauma of its people with crushing

injuries that have left 1 out of 3 dead from internal bleeding, bleeding out of

wounds or lost limbs; head injuries, no water to sustain electrolytes, protein

spilling into Kidneys and Urine from Shock; no coverage from the heat and

dust,compromising body temperature and Sun's rays, and no Haiti government or

medical aid per say to help effectively.

>

> Once the rescue teams and health aid and equipment come in from other nations,

help will be there for the Haitian people who have survived.

> In the meantime, Hell has grip the people in fear and that will be the hardest

to mend in the future, as many too will be forever displaced from their homeland

and their love ones.

>

> I am sure the natal chart of the country will be able to see this also. There

for the grace of God go us. In our deepest kneeling position, Pray for the

humanity of the Haitian people.

>

> As Always,

>

> Uttara

>

> jyotish-vidya, " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > The terrible disaster in Haiti (on the news a little while ago) prompted me

to take a look at the independence chart for Haiti. Jan 1st 1804 (00:00)

Port-au-Prince, Haiti.

> >

> > Providing the chart is correct, the dasa at time of earthquake was

SA-ME-SA-JU. Members may recall the discussions we've had here previously

regarding the role Ketu plays in respect to these catastrophe' s... Ketu =

sudden events, uncontrollable mass of energy, panic etc, etc.. See more here

http://www.jyotishv idya.com/ planets.htm

> >

> > Note: Dasa/Pratyantar lord Saturn (in lagna) occupying nakshatra of Ketu's

dispositor (Moon)...in both natal chart and transit, whilst Moon himself was

transiting nakshatra of Ketu...transit antardasa lord Mercury also occupied

nakshatra of Ketu...

> >

> > Must leave it here for now as I need to prepare the evening meal. I look

forward to members comments on this chart.

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya .com

> >

> >

> >

> >

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database 4769 (20100113) __________

> >

> > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

> >

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> >

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Dear Mrs Uttara Ji,

My effort is to add astro factors too mentioned else where for reference

please.Just giving below pl:

" Sarvatobhadra Chakra which is normally neglected but was

> eulogised as Chakra-raaja by ancients. At the time of Haiti Quake, chart made

> from its capital had the letter " H " viddha (pierced) by Saturn, Ketu, Mercury

> and Moon, and the tithi 14 which started ~5 minutes after the major shock was

> viddha by Jup, Sun, Rahu. Merc was retro and Mars was debilitated. Jup was

> enmically in 6th. In D9, Sat, Jup and Moon were highly malefic and in D30

Venus

> and Sun were malefic while Rahu and Ketu were with debilitated Sun.

>

> In Annual Chart (Mesha Samkraanti), Haiti lied in Mercury's house which

pierced

> tithis 13 and 14, while Ketu pierced " H " and " E " , the latter was viddha by

Moon

> too.

>

> In Nakshatra Chart (Uttaraashaadha) Sat, Ketu and Merc pierced " H " , Mars

pierced

> the vowel " AI " , Jup-Rah-Moo- Sun pierced the tithi 14. This chart was highly

> malefic because all planets excluding Mercury were highly malefic :

>

> Sun-Ven-Rah in 12th

> Ketu in 6th

> Sat in 8th

> Mars-Moon debilitated (neecha)

> Jup Maarakesh and in enemy Saturn's first house.

>

> Hence, all charts and most of the planets contributed in this event, but Ketu

> was most influential due to high aspect on Haiti and always piercing " H " in

all

> relevant charts.

>

> It is hard to predict whether such combinations will cause only earthquakes

and

> not some other calamity. Further research is needed. "

 

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Uttara <muttaraphalguni wrote:

 

 

Uttara <muttaraphalguni

Fw: Re: Re: Disaster in Haiti

jyotish-vidya

Thursday, January 14, 2010, 11:14 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

To All,

 

From a Spiritual column, I thought to pass on for its gratitude we

have as well as our compassion.

 

Thursday, January 14, 2010

 

The Lessons of Haiti

by Alexander Green

Dear Reader,

 

What can be said about Haiti that hasn't already been said this week?

 

Already the poorest nation in the Western hemisphere, Tuesday's earthquake has

left tens of thousands dead and injured and trapped hundreds of thousands more

in the rubble.

 

This catastrophe will surely go down as one of the worst natural disasters of

all time. Yet events like these tend to occur with depressing regularity..

 

It seems like only yesterday - in fact, it's astonishing to realize it was five

years ago - that an undersea earthquake off Sumatra caused a tsunami with waves

up to 100 feet high, killing nearly 230,000 people in fourteen countries.

 

As in Haiti, the people in the vicinity were simply going about their business -

and had virtually no warning.

 

Earthquakes aren't the only culprits, of course. In 2005, Hurricane Katrina

slammed the Gulf Coast, leaving more than 2,000 dead.

 

In 1985, Nevado Del Ruiz claimed more than 25,000 lives in Colombia, mostly from

the mudflow that resulted from the volcanic eruption.

 

Historian David McCullough wrote movingly about one of the great disasters in

American history, the Johnstown Flood. After especially heavy rains one year,

the South Fork Dam broke, sending 20 million tons of water at 40 mph toward the

city of 30,000 below.

 

According to Victor Heiser, a survivor who rode a section of his barn roof to

safety, " I could see a huge wall advancing with incredible rapidity down the

diagonal street. It was not recognizable as water, it was a dark mass, seething

with houses, freight cars, trees and animals. " Thousands died.

 

Yet even this disaster pales in comparison to the massive Yellow River Flood of

1931. Historians estimate that it killed between one and four million rural

Chinese.

 

Even if you're fortunate enough to live in an area where the ground doesn't

shake, hurricanes don't blow, and tornadoes are unlikely to lift your roof off

in the middle of the night, there are other natural threats, including The Big

One.

 

On March 23, 1989, an asteroid bigger than an aircraft carrier - more than a

half-mile wide - traveling at 46,000 miles per hour, passed through Earth's

orbit less than 400,000 miles away.

 

400,000 miles may not sound like a close shave, but in astronomical terms this

was a near miss. Earth had been at that point just six hours earlier. Had the

asteroid struck our planet, scientists estimate the energy released would have

been equivalent to 1,000 to 2,500 megatons of TNT (or 1,000-2,500 one-megaton

hydrogen bombs). It could have been what NASA calls, with some understatement,

" a civilization- ending event. "

 

No one saw the asteroid until it had already passed by. And to think you lived

to tell your grandkids about it...

 

Throughout history, tens of millions of our relatives and ancestors have

succumbed to earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, tornados, cyclones, tsunamis,

droughts, famines and pandemics. The idea that these are " acts of God " - in the

literal sense - is a tough concept to swallow.

 

Yet if there is anything good to be said about the events in Haiti this week, it

is how millions around the world are now putting their troubles and

self-interests aside - at least for a moment - to lend a hand.

 

The situation is dire. Yet money, food, clothing, medicine and other essentials

are pouring in.

 

If you'd like to help, feel free to donate locally, dial the Red Cross, or give

to one of the world's very best agencies for disaster relief - The International

Rescue Committee.

 

Today's crisis in Haiti can help us put our own lives in perspective. The

security of your job, the performance of your 401(k) and the size of your bank

account are pretty small potatoes compared to the idea of having a child or

grandchild trapped inside a collapsed schoolhouse.

 

So consider the suffering in Haiti. And express a bit of gratitude.

 

Except for the sheerest accidents of birth and circumstance, it could be you and

your family in the rubble.

 

Carpe Diem,

 

Alex

 

jyotish-vidya, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Members.

> Pl check the data of haiti please as given by a friend

> Haiti's independence chart is as follows:

>

> 1st jan, 1804

> 12.00 LMT +4:50:44

> Gonaives, Haiti, 19 N 27, 72W41

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote:

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

> Re: Re: Disaster in Haiti

> jyotish-vidya

> Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:23 PM

>

Dear Mrs.Uttara.Mrs. Wendy and others.

> From the reports it is seen that in Haiti Presidents Office,Parliament,

Schools and Hospital were severly damaged.

> Ihad applied Prasna chart based on the media reports.I will be revrting as

some body also given time of Haiti in dependence chart yester day.

> Ketu was raising at 16.30 GMT Punarvasu.Lagna was in Aridra3rd of Geming ruled

by Mercury a dual sign.Ketu karak for moksha in jupiter nakshtra in lagna

chart.indication as an abrupt event and the influence particulalrly on rulers

and in ruling places like parliament etc.

> Mo,me,Ra and sun happened to be in fiery sign dual in behaviour..In  lagna

chart sa,was in4thi n pisces jala rasi,saturn in retrograde happened to be in

2nd from lagna(pisces) in watery sign.

> 2 great malefics both retrograde,one (sat) in debilitation and mars exalted

with venus in 11th of Makara navamsa looked to be indicating severity and huamn

loss in large proportion.

> Dasa of venus posited in 8th in lagna chart is aspected mars in 2nd.Lord of

2nd,cancer in 7th with Rahu,sun,mer

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ ...>

> Re: Disaster in Haiti

> jyotish-vidya

> Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:52 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Mrs. Wendy and All,

>

> I am glad to see this subject opened for discussion as I wrote last evening

requesting anyone who would have Haiti's chart. Unfortunately, I lose the post

and could not retrieve it.

>

> I was tempted to try again but left it as I was very tired and hoped that this

horrific subject would be brought up in good time.

>

> I will leave it to members to continue to respond as you have already laid out

what I was asking and the delineation of Haiti chart is well underway..

>

> I will leave saying this. Hell has met earth in Haiti.

> The horrific devastation and the severe trauma of its people with crushing

injuries that have left 1 out of 3 dead from internal bleeding, bleeding out of

wounds or lost limbs; head injuries, no water to sustain electrolytes, protein

spilling into Kidneys and Urine from Shock; no coverage from the heat and

dust,compromising body temperature and Sun's rays, and no Haiti government or

medical aid per say to help effectively.

>

> Once the rescue teams and health aid and equipment come in from other nations,

help will be there for the Haitian people who have survived.

> In the meantime, Hell has grip the people in fear and that will be the hardest

to mend in the future, as many too will be forever displaced from their homeland

and their love ones.

>

> I am sure the natal chart of the country will be able to see this also. There

for the grace of God go us. In our deepest kneeling position, Pray for the

humanity of the Haitian people.

>

> As Always,

>

> Uttara

>

> jyotish-vidya, " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > The terrible disaster in Haiti (on the news a little while ago) prompted me

to take a look at the independence chart for Haiti. Jan 1st 1804 (00:00)

Port-au-Prince, Haiti.

> >

> > Providing the chart is correct, the dasa at time of earthquake was

SA-ME-SA-JU. Members may recall the discussions we've had here previously

regarding the role Ketu plays in respect to these catastrophe' s... Ketu =

sudden events, uncontrollable mass of energy, panic etc, etc.. See more here

http://www.jyotishv idya.com/ planets.htm

> >

> > Note: Dasa/Pratyantar lord Saturn (in lagna) occupying nakshatra of Ketu's

dispositor (Moon)...in both natal chart and transit, whilst Moon himself was

transiting nakshatra of Ketu...transit antardasa lord Mercury also occupied

nakshatra of Ketu...

> >

> > Must leave it here for now as I need to prepare the evening meal. I look

forward to members comments on this chart.

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya .com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature

database 4769 (20100113) __________

> >

> > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

> >

> > http://www.eset. com

> >

> >

> >

> >

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