Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Dear Uttaraji, Uttaraji - Hoping that you are fine now as regards your health. Wishing you an early recuperation Dear Wendyji and Group, How does one use Navamsa for marriage analysis. Do we have to see the placement of 7th lord ( of Rasi chart (D1)) in navamsa or do we analyze the Navamsa horoscope itself and see the 7th house and its lord (D9's 7 house analysis) or do we see both. There are some astrologers in India who give more importance to Navamsa for marriage and relationship analysis. Warm Regards Nilesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Dear Nilesh, Thank you for your well wishes! My surgery is scheduled for 10:15am (if on time) on Monday 25 Jan. The surgeon will remove a tumor from the soft tissue of the chest wall along with a few Lymph nodes. I am sure all will go well, as I have a very good team of doctors (14)at an excellent Medical Center. Final Pathology report will be in by end of week. Which will then define any further surgery if needed and other tests that need to be done, including a treatment plan. Your question regarding marriage prediction using Navamsa or other or both is a very good one. I look forward to what the leaned members have to say on this discussion. It should be very interesting. Also, I am sure a discussion on how to use the Navamsa properly when delineating charts will be very informative for all students. As Always, Uttara jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27 wrote: > > Dear Uttaraji, > > Uttaraji - Hoping that you are fine now as regards your health. > Wishing you an early recuperation > > > Dear Wendyji and Group, > > How does one use Navamsa for marriage analysis. > Do we have to see the placement of 7th lord ( of Rasi chart (D1)) in navamsa or do we analyze the Navamsa horoscope itself and see the 7th house and its lord (D9's 7 house analysis) or do we see both. > > There are some astrologers in India who give more importance to Navamsa for marriage and relationship analysis. > > Warm Regards > > > Nilesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 dear Uttaraji jayshrikrishana as Uttara <muttaraphalguni jyotish-vidya Sat, Jan 23, 2010 11:33 pm Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions Dear Nilesh, Thank you for your well wishes! My surgery is scheduled for 10:15am (if on time) on Monday 25 Jan. The surgeon will remove a tumor from the soft tissue of the chest wall along with a few Lymph nodes. I am sure all will go well, as I have a very good team of doctors (14)at an excellent Medical Center. Final Pathology report will be in by end of week. Which will then define any further surgery if needed and other tests that need to be done, including a treatment plan. Your question regarding marriage prediction using Navamsa or other or both is a very good one. I look forward to what the leaned members have to say on this discussion. It should be very interesting. Also, I am sure a discussion on how to use the Navamsa properly when delineating charts will be very informative for all students. As Always, Uttara jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27 wrote: > > Dear Uttaraji, > > Uttaraji - Hoping that you are fine now as regards your health. > Wishing you an early recuperation > > > Dear Wendyji and Group, > > How does one use Navamsa for marriage analysis. > Do we have to see the placement of 7th lord ( of Rasi chart (D1)) in navamsa or do we analyze the Navamsa horoscope itself and see the 7th house and its lord (D9's 7 house analysis) or do we see both. > > There are some astrologers in India who give more importance to Navamsa for marriage and relationship analysis. > > Warm Regards > > > Nilesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 dear uttaraji jay shrikrishana. as i read your opration is fixed on 25th jan pl do mahamrutunjay mantra as it mon day moon is of vrashabha and day of lord shiva .lord shiva may give long good life. shiv mahimna stotra,shiv manash pooja and mahamrutunjay mantra make dying person a live pl do by heart mrutunjay mahadev trahimam sharnagat ganma mrutu gara vyadhi piditam karma bhandhane god bless you and we pray for long healthy painless life jay shri krishana Uttara <muttaraphalguni jyotish-vidya Sat, Jan 23, 2010 11:33 pm Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions Dear Nilesh, Thank you for your well wishes! My surgery is scheduled for 10:15am (if on time) on Monday 25 Jan. The surgeon will remove a tumor from the soft tissue of the chest wall along with a few Lymph nodes. I am sure all will go well, as I have a very good team of doctors (14)at an excellent Medical Center. Final Pathology report will be in by end of week. Which will then define any further surgery if needed and other tests that need to be done, including a treatment plan. Your question regarding marriage prediction using Navamsa or other or both is a very good one. I look forward to what the leaned members have to say on this discussion. It should be very interesting. Also, I am sure a discussion on how to use the Navamsa properly when delineating charts will be very informative for all students. As Always, Uttara jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27 wrote: > > Dear Uttaraji, > > Uttaraji - Hoping that you are fine now as regards your health. > Wishing you an early recuperation > > > Dear Wendyji and Group, > > How does one use Navamsa for marriage analysis. > Do we have to see the placement of 7th lord ( of Rasi chart (D1)) in navamsa or do we analyze the Navamsa horoscope itself and see the 7th house and its lord (D9's 7 house analysis) or do we see both. > > There are some astrologers in India who give more importance to Navamsa for marriage and relationship analysis. > > Warm Regards > > > Nilesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Thank you Ramesh for your mantra guidance! will do my heart and often. ************ An added NOTE about Navamsa: Jyotishvidya.com has a very good article about how to use Navamsa properly. Check it out. http://jyotishvidya.com/navamsa.htm As Always jyotish-vidya , jora wrote: > > > dear uttaraji > jay shrikrishana. > > as i read your opration is fixed on 25th jan > pl do mahamrutunjay mantra as it mon day moon is of vrashabha > and day of lord shiva .lord shiva may give long good life. > shiv mahimna stotra,shiv manash pooja and mahamrutunjay mantra make dying person a live > pl do by heart > mrutunjay mahadev trahimam sharnagat > ganma mrutu gara vyadhi piditam karma bhandhane > god bless you and we pray for long healthy painless life > jay shri krishana > Uttara <muttaraphalguni > jyotish-vidya > Sat, Jan 23, 2010 11:33 pm > Re: Using Navamsa > for marriage predictions > > > > > Dear Nilesh, > > Thank you for your well wishes! > > My surgery is scheduled for 10:15am (if on time) on Monday 25 Jan. > The surgeon will remove a tumor from the soft tissue of the chest wall along with a few Lymph nodes. I am sure all will go well, as I have a very good team of doctors (14)at an excellent Medical Center. > Final Pathology report will be in by end of week. Which will then define any further surgery if needed and other tests that need to be done, including a treatment plan. > > Your question regarding marriage prediction using Navamsa or other or both is a very good one. I look forward to what the leaned members have to say on this discussion. It should be very interesting. > > Also, I am sure a discussion on how to use the Navamsa properly when delineating charts will be very informative for all students. > > As Always, > > Uttara > > jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@> wrote: > > > > Dear Uttaraji, > > > > Uttaraji - Hoping that you are fine now as regards your health. > > Wishing you an early recuperation > > > > > > Dear Wendyji and Group, > > > > How does one use Navamsa for marriage analysis. > > Do we have to see the placement of 7th lord ( of Rasi chart (D1)) in navamsa or do we analyze the Navamsa horoscope itself and see the 7th house and its lord (D9's 7 house analysis) or do we see both. > > > > There are some astrologers in India who give more importance to Navamsa for marriage and relationship analysis. > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > > Nilesh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go through it again.  Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well.  As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective -  I feel that the 7th house and its lord  in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya ..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round  I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal chart) in the navamsa.  Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.  Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought.  Warm Regards  Nilesh --- On Sun, 24/1/10, Uttara <muttaraphalguni wrote: Uttara <muttaraphalguni Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions jyotish-vidya Sunday, 24 January, 2010, 12:43 AM  Thank you Ramesh for your mantra guidance! will do my heart and often. ************ An added NOTE about Navamsa: Jyotishvidya. com has a very good article about how to use Navamsa properly. Check it out. http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm As Always jyotish-vidya, jora wrote: > > > dear uttaraji > jay shrikrishana. > > as i read your opration is fixed on 25th jan > pl do mahamrutunjay mantra as it mon day moon is of vrashabha > and day of lord shiva .lord shiva may give long good life. > shiv mahimna stotra,shiv manash pooja and mahamrutunjay mantra make dying person a live > pl do by heart > mrutunjay mahadev trahimam sharnagat > ganma mrutu gara vyadhi piditam karma bhandhane > god bless you and we pray for long healthy painless life > jay shri krishana > Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ ...> > jyotish-vidya > Sat, Jan 23, 2010 11:33 pm > Re: Using Navamsa > for marriage predictions > > > > > Dear Nilesh, > > Thank you for your well wishes! > > My surgery is scheduled for 10:15am (if on time) on Monday 25 Jan. > The surgeon will remove a tumor from the soft tissue of the chest wall along with a few Lymph nodes. I am sure all will go well, as I have a very good team of doctors (14)at an excellent Medical Center. > Final Pathology report will be in by end of week. Which will then define any further surgery if needed and other tests that need to be done, including a treatment plan. > > Your question regarding marriage prediction using Navamsa or other or both is a very good one. I look forward to what the leaned members have to say on this discussion. It should be very interesting. > > Also, I am sure a discussion on how to use the Navamsa properly when delineating charts will be very informative for all students. > > As Always, > > Uttara > > jyotish-vidya, " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Uttaraji, > > > > Uttaraji - Hoping that you are fine now as regards your health. > > Wishing you an early recuperation > > > > > > Dear Wendyji and Group, > > > > How does one use Navamsa for marriage analysis. > > Do we have to see the placement of 7th lord ( of Rasi chart (D1)) in navamsa or do we analyze the Navamsa horoscope itself and see the 7th house and its lord (D9's 7 house analysis) or do we see both. > > > > There are some astrologers in India who give more importance to Navamsa for marriage and relationship analysis. > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > > Nilesh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Nilesh ji & members, This is my first posting so I hope I will be forgiven if I transgress any of the group's established etiquette. Respectfully, I address the third point of Nilesh ji: - > Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. The astrologer B.V. Raman applies dristi rules to the navamsa. Examples abound in 'Notable Horoscopes'. On page 55 we are told that Jupiter aspects Lagna in navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn in the example chart being discussed, with Lagna in Taurus, so the aspect from Jupiter is 5th aspect. On page 56 it is stated that the navamsa Lagna is under the influence of several planets " especially Jupiter and Kethu " - this is by 5th aspect. Mars aspects Lagna by 4th aspect. On page 62 B.V. Raman explains that Saturn aspects Sun in navamsa (in the chart he is examining). We see that Saturn is in Libra and Sun in Sagittarius, so Saturn aspects by his 3rd aspect. On page 80: " In the navamsa Venus is considerably afflicted. " In this chart, Venus in navamsa is associated with Mars but suffers also the 10th aspect of Saturn and the 9th aspect of Rahu. The association of Mars alone would not make Venus " considerably afflicted " . On page 96: " In navamsa, again, the divine planet Jupiter with Mokshakaraka Kethu is in the 10th (Karmasthana) aspected by Saturn. " Jupiter and Ketu are in Taurus, Saturn is in Pisces, thus Saturn aspects Jupiter and Ketu by his 3rd aspect. There are many other examples in this book and in other writings of B.V. Raman. Warm regards, Melissa ~~~~~~~ Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go through it again. Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well. As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective - I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (http://jyotishvidya.com/navamsa.htm)- it mentions the other way round I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal chart) in the navamsa. Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought. Warm Regards Nilesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Dear Melissa, As some members (myself included) may not have this particular book you refer to, it would be helpful if you could provide the data for these charts so we could take a look at them. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ======================= Melissa Grove Wednesday, 27 January 2010 4:16 AM jyotish-vidya Re: Using Navamsa for Marriage Predictions Nilesh ji & members, This is my first posting so I hope I will be forgiven if I transgress any of the group's established etiquette. Respectfully, I address the third point of Nilesh ji: - > Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. The astrologer B.V. Raman applies dristi rules to the navamsa. Examples abound in 'Notable Horoscopes'. On page 55 we are told that Jupiter aspects Lagna in navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn in the example chart being discussed, with Lagna in Taurus, so the aspect from Jupiter is 5th aspect. On page 56 it is stated that the navamsa Lagna is under the influence of several planets " especially Jupiter and Kethu " - this is by 5th aspect. Mars aspects Lagna by 4th aspect. On page 62 B.V. Raman explains that Saturn aspects Sun in navamsa (in the chart he is examining). We see that Saturn is in Libra and Sun in Sagittarius, so Saturn aspects by his 3rd aspect. On page 80: " In the navamsa Venus is considerably afflicted. " In this chart, Venus in navamsa is associated with Mars but suffers also the 10th aspect of Saturn and the 9th aspect of Rahu. The association of Mars alone would not make Venus " considerably afflicted " . On page 96: " In navamsa, again, the divine planet Jupiter with Mokshakaraka Kethu is in the 10th (Karmasthana) aspected by Saturn. " Jupiter and Ketu are in Taurus, Saturn is in Pisces, thus Saturn aspects Jupiter and Ketu by his 3rd aspect. There are many other examples in this book and in other writings of B.V. Raman. Warm regards, Melissa ~~~~~~~ Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go through it again. Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well. As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective - I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (http://jyotishvidya.com/navamsa.htm)- it mentions the other way round I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal chart) in the navamsa. Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought. Warm Regards Nilesh ============================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Dear Melissa, I too, would be very interested in the information that you have put forth. Not arguing, you understand, just wanting the resource to study. Because, as a practice when one counts from a Parashara perspective technique it goes forward not backwards. This could become a very interesting topic of investigation for all. As Always, Uttara jyotish-vidya , Melissa Grove <anglicus09 wrote: > > Nilesh ji & members, > > This is my first posting so I hope I will be forgiven if I transgress any of the group's established etiquette. > > Respectfully, I address the third point of Nilesh ji: - > > > Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. > > The astrologer B.V. Raman applies dristi rules to the navamsa. Examples abound in 'Notable Horoscopes'. On page 55 we are told that Jupiter aspects Lagna in navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn in the example chart being discussed, with Lagna in Taurus, so the aspect from Jupiter is 5th aspect. > > On page 56 it is stated that the navamsa Lagna is under the influence of several planets " especially Jupiter and Kethu " - this is by 5th aspect. Mars aspects Lagna by 4th aspect. > > On page 62 B.V. Raman explains that Saturn aspects Sun in navamsa (in the chart he is examining). We see that Saturn is in Libra and Sun in Sagittarius, so Saturn aspects by his 3rd aspect. > > On page 80: " In the navamsa Venus is considerably afflicted. " In this chart, Venus in navamsa is associated with Mars but suffers also the 10th aspect of Saturn and the 9th aspect of Rahu. The association of Mars alone would not make Venus " considerably afflicted " . > > On page 96: " In navamsa, again, the divine planet Jupiter with Mokshakaraka Kethu is in the 10th (Karmasthana) aspected by Saturn. " Jupiter and Ketu are in Taurus, Saturn is in Pisces, thus Saturn aspects Jupiter and Ketu by his 3rd aspect. > > There are many other examples in this book and in other writings of B.V. Raman. > > Warm regards, > > Melissa > > ~~~~~~~ > Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go through it again. > > Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well. > > As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective - > > I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more > important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned > members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (http://jyotishvidya.com/navamsa.htm)- it mentions the other way round > > I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal chart) in the navamsa. > > Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. > > Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought. > > Warm Regards > > Nilesh > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Dear Nilesh, ///I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya ..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round/// It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main " Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya.com/articles.htm My own view in regards to navamsha and other vargas is that they should not be viewed as separate (stand alone) charts with bhava lordship/occupancy etc as they're simply divisions of the natal chart itself. In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way. As an example, my dasa lord Mercury, in exaltation in 9th (grandchildren) with no malefic aspect, should indicate all-round good results, whereas the reality is quite different. Looking at saptamsha I find Mercury occupies sign of Gemini...6th dusthana bhava in natal chart. This definitely reflects the situation with grandchildren during this mahadasa more accurately. Sub-dasas would also be looked at in this way. If lagna or any graha is vargottama it's dignity in natal chart is reinforced i.e. an exalted graha gains in benefic status, whereas a debilitated graha is doubly afflicted etc.. Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha. Perhaps members might consider the vargas in this way (as related to their charts) and put forward their own experience. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ========================== nilesh joshi Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:54 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go through it again. Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well. As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective - I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal chart) in the navamsa. Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought. Warm Regards Nilesh ======================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Dear Mrs Wendy,Nilesh Ji and others,Navamsa being the nineth divison has also link to bhagya( seen through 9H in the natal chart)In some context after attaining the age of maturity and in adult stage,the need for spouse termed as Dharma Patni joins the life as an ardhangi.Ardhangi is a term representing fifty/half of the body.marraigae given lot of importance from the point of view of bhagya of a native.So also wife is bhagya devata.navamsa is beleived to give indications relating to spouse,his/her personality,relationships and the cooperation along with mutuality of life.If 7th divsion of the natal chart is for progeny,9th division is meant to delineate the issues of living togther and strength of relationship of both the people involved for marraige purpose.Also Rasyanavamsa .sudarshan chakra are also often referred along with sarvatobhadra chakra for a detailed study of the natal chart.The life of a person through divisional chart is only to seek confirmation of the understanding of the natal chart.Infact Navasa analysis as per Manasagari,Saravali.Brihad yavana Jataka and Nakshtra Chudmanai too emphsise the need to apply navamsa for a total understanding of the jatak..Classification of Navamsa as Dhatu,Moola and Jeeva are inter aspecting having relevance to assess fortunes of an Individal on various aspects.of this grihastha or the follow up of marraige needs a special effort aprt from implications of 7th H,7th lord,2nd H 2nd lord and any connectivity 5th,10th houses or 12th or 8th.Natal Chart might be a potential means but other aspects with reference strngth of house,planets.dasa lords and their dynamic relationships need detailed review before any body infers good or bad of the treends/indications.I for one take the support for over all assesssment from navamsa for any aspect of life. Taking the aid of divisional charts mainly Navamsa is a debatable issue.Several authors,teachers in Astrology and others opined  that navamsa of all the shadvargas or shodas vargas has it's own  and unique importance with reference to Navamsa lagna as well as placement of plants.Planets at birth if in good or bad state,may not be the same as the individual progresses and each house/bhava reveals the trend along with lords.These divisional charts mainly Navamsa for finding out a spouse nature and their relationship require attantion and analysis. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions jyotish-vidya Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:20 PM  Dear Nilesh, ///I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya ..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round/// It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main " Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm My own view in regards to navamsha and other vargas is that they should not be viewed as separate (stand alone) charts with bhava lordship/occupancy etc as they're simply divisions of the natal chart itself. In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way. As an example, my dasa lord Mercury, in exaltation in 9th (grandchildren) with no malefic aspect, should indicate all-round good results, whereas the reality is quite different. Looking at saptamsha I find Mercury occupies sign of Gemini...6th dusthana bhava in natal chart. This definitely reflects the situation with grandchildren during this mahadasa more accurately. Sub-dasas would also be looked at in this way. If lagna or any graha is vargottama it's dignity in natal chart is reinforced i.e. an exalted graha gains in benefic status, whereas a debilitated graha is doubly afflicted etc.. Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha. Perhaps members might consider the vargas in this way (as related to their charts) and put forward their own experience. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ============ ========= ===== nilesh joshi Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:54 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go through it again. Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well. As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective - I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal chart) in the navamsa. Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought. Warm Regards Nilesh ============ ========= === __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Dear VK, If I may take a few moments to add to your thoughts. As I have learned, Rasi is the foundation of existence, its root and base for the " Fruit " of effects of Navamsha. Each needs each other but, the foundation has noting if there is not the ripen fruit to put forward. Therefore, Navamsha becomes important in delineation of explanation. However, Navamsha has no bases to give fruit if not for the foundation of the Rasi which gives a foundation of existence and accurately the predictions of events. This is what I have learned. It does not mean it is dogmatic and I would like other learned members to comment. Also, it does not explain the relationship of Rasi vs the other Vargas. Often the Navamsha is taken only for the spouse. While others only use the Navamsha and not the Rasi. and, others use both. My understanding is the Navamsha as well as other Vargas are not aspected. However, Melissa has put forth an interesting question and further investigation is needed as well as accurate documentation to the reality of how to use charts. In addition to other learned members opinions and facts. It is also my understanding as I have explained in another post, that aspects are counted forward and not backwards. Therefore. if Jupiter were in Pisces persay, then it would aspect the 5th from self being Cancer, the seventh from self being Virgo and the 9th from self being Scorpio. Only. I look forward to Melissa's documentation to explain further her hypothesis as well as her facts garnered. As always, Uttara jyotish-vidya , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Mrs Wendy,Nilesh Ji and others,Navamsa being the nineth divison has also link to bhagya( seen through 9H in the natal chart)In some context after attaining the age of maturity and in adult stage,the need for spouse termed as Dharma Patni joins the life as an ardhangi.Ardhangi is a term representing fifty/half of the body.marraigae given lot of importance from the point of view of bhagya of a native.So also wife is bhagya devata.navamsa is beleived to give indications relating to spouse,his/her personality,relationships and the cooperation along with mutuality of life.If 7th divsion of the natal chart is for progeny,9th division is meant to delineate the issues of living togther and strength of relationship of both the people involved for marraige purpose.Also Rasyanavamsa .sudarshan chakra are also often referred along with sarvatobhadra chakra for a detailed study of the natal chart.The life of a person through divisional chart is only to seek > confirmation of the understanding of the natal chart.Infact Navasa analysis as per Manasagari,Saravali.Brihad yavana Jataka and Nakshtra Chudmanai too emphsise the need to apply navamsa for a total understanding of the jatak..Classification of Navamsa as Dhatu,Moola and Jeeva are inter aspecting having relevance to assess fortunes of an Individal on various aspects.of this grihastha or the follow up of marraige needs a special effort aprt from implications of 7th H,7th lord,2nd H 2nd lord and any connectivity 5th,10th houses or 12th or 8th.Natal Chart might be a potential means but other aspects with reference strngth of house,planets.dasa lords and their dynamic relationships need detailed review before any body infers good or bad of the treends/indications.I for one take the support for over all assesssment from navamsa for any aspect of life. > Taking the aid of divisional charts mainly Navamsa is a debatable issue.Several authors,teachers in Astrology and others opined  that navamsa of all the shadvargas or shodas vargas has it's own  and unique importance with reference to Navamsa lagna as well as placement of plants.Planets at birth if in good or bad state,may not be the same as the individual progresses and each house/bhava reveals the trend along with lords.These divisional charts mainly Navamsa for finding out a spouse nature and their relationship require attantion and analysis. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya > Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions > jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:20 PM > > > > > > > > > >  > > > Dear Nilesh, > > > > ///I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya ..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round/// > > > > It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main " Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm > > > > My own view in regards to navamsha and other vargas is that they should not be viewed as separate (stand alone) charts with bhava lordship/occupancy etc as they're simply divisions of the natal chart itself. In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way. > > > > As an example, my dasa lord Mercury, in exaltation in 9th (grandchildren) with no malefic aspect, should indicate all-round good results, whereas the reality is quite different. Looking at saptamsha I find Mercury occupies sign of Gemini...6th dusthana bhava in natal chart. This definitely reflects the situation with grandchildren during this mahadasa more accurately. Sub-dasas would also be looked at in this way. > > > > If lagna or any graha is vargottama it's dignity in natal chart is reinforced i.e. an exalted graha gains in benefic status, whereas a debilitated graha is doubly afflicted etc.. > > > > Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha. > > > > Perhaps members might consider the vargas in this way (as related to their charts) and put forward their own experience. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya .com > > > > ============ ========= ===== > > > > nilesh joshi > > Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:54 PM > > jyotish-vidya > > Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions > > > > Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go through it again. > > > > Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well. > > > > As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective - > > > > I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya ..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round > > > > I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal chart) in the navamsa. > > > > Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. > > > > Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought. > > > > Warm Regards > > > > Nilesh > > > > ============ ========= === > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset. com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Dear Mrs Melissa,Mrs Wendy.Nilesh and others,I have the notabale horoscopes as well his other book Three Hundred Important combinations of late B.V.Raman.Also his book Hindu predictive Astrology.In his books,Raman emphsises the strength of hosue and plane when seen through divisional charts may increase or decrease the strengths and aspects of planets as lord of houses in natal chart.For ex jupiter in cancer,if in navamsa goes to capricotn it gets debilitated.Like wise strength of navamsa lagna is either strengthened by vargottama or by aspects.Shil Pande while referring to navamsha chart infers " aids in strengthening the moral fibre of individual:The issue of aspects in main chart as well as navamsa harmonises the various issues for a balanced judgements of astrological chart. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Re: Using Navamsa for Marriage Predictions jyotish-vidya Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 7:14 PM  Dear Melissa, As some members (myself included) may not have this particular book you refer to, it would be helpful if you could provide the data for these charts so we could take a look at them. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ============ ========= == Melissa Grove Wednesday, 27 January 2010 4:16 AM jyotish-vidya Re: Using Navamsa for Marriage Predictions Nilesh ji & members, This is my first posting so I hope I will be forgiven if I transgress any of the group's established etiquette. Respectfully, I address the third point of Nilesh ji: - > Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. The astrologer B.V. Raman applies dristi rules to the navamsa. Examples abound in 'Notable Horoscopes'. On page 55 we are told that Jupiter aspects Lagna in navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn in the example chart being discussed, with Lagna in Taurus, so the aspect from Jupiter is 5th aspect. On page 56 it is stated that the navamsa Lagna is under the influence of several planets " especially Jupiter and Kethu " - this is by 5th aspect. Mars aspects Lagna by 4th aspect. On page 62 B.V. Raman explains that Saturn aspects Sun in navamsa (in the chart he is examining). We see that Saturn is in Libra and Sun in Sagittarius, so Saturn aspects by his 3rd aspect. On page 80: " In the navamsa Venus is considerably afflicted. " In this chart, Venus in navamsa is associated with Mars but suffers also the 10th aspect of Saturn and the 9th aspect of Rahu. The association of Mars alone would not make Venus " considerably afflicted " . On page 96: " In navamsa, again, the divine planet Jupiter with Mokshakaraka Kethu is in the 10th (Karmasthana) aspected by Saturn. " Jupiter and Ketu are in Taurus, Saturn is in Pisces, thus Saturn aspects Jupiter and Ketu by his 3rd aspect. There are many other examples in this book and in other writings of B.V. Raman. Warm regards, Melissa ~~~~~~~ Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go through it again. Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well. As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective - I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal chart) in the navamsa. Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought. Warm Regards Nilesh ============ ========= ========= __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 ADDED NOTE: I promise I am resting. I rest and then I type just a few, many hours a part. I really am unable to do anything else. But, just enough exercise to keep my arm and hands moving so they don't stiffen from the surgery and stitiches at the axilla chest wall. :-) I'm off for the evening. As always, Uttara jyotish-vidya , " Uttara " <muttaraphalguni wrote: > > Dear VK, > > If I may take a few moments to add to your thoughts. > > As I have learned, Rasi is the foundation of existence, its root and base for the " Fruit " of effects of Navamsha. Each needs each other but, the foundation has noting if there is not the ripen fruit to put forward. Therefore, Navamsha becomes important in delineation of explanation. However, Navamsha has no bases to give fruit if not for the foundation of the Rasi which gives a foundation of existence and accurately the predictions of events. > > This is what I have learned. It does not mean it is dogmatic and I would like other learned members to comment. Also, it does not explain the relationship of Rasi vs the other Vargas. > > Often the Navamsha is taken only for the spouse. While others only use the Navamsha and not the Rasi. and, others use both. My understanding is the Navamsha as well as other Vargas are not aspected. > > However, Melissa has put forth an interesting question and further investigation is needed as well as accurate documentation to the reality of how to use charts. In addition to other learned members opinions and facts. > > It is also my understanding as I have explained in another post, that aspects are counted forward and not backwards. Therefore. if Jupiter were in Pisces persay, then it would aspect the 5th from self being Cancer, the seventh from self being Virgo and the 9th from self being Scorpio. Only. > > I look forward to Melissa's documentation to explain further her hypothesis as well as her facts garnered. > > As always, > > Uttara > > > jyotish-vidya , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mrs Wendy,Nilesh Ji and others,Navamsa being the nineth divison has also link to bhagya( seen through 9H in the natal chart)In some context after attaining the age of maturity and in adult stage,the need for spouse termed as Dharma Patni joins the life as an ardhangi.Ardhangi is a term representing fifty/half of the body.marraigae given lot of importance from the point of view of bhagya of a native.So also wife is bhagya devata.navamsa is beleived to give indications relating to spouse,his/her personality,relationships and the cooperation along with mutuality of life.If 7th divsion of the natal chart is for progeny,9th division is meant to delineate the issues of living togther and strength of relationship of both the people involved for marraige purpose.Also Rasyanavamsa .sudarshan chakra are also often referred along with sarvatobhadra chakra for a detailed study of the natal chart.The life of a person through divisional chart is only to seek > > confirmation of the understanding of the natal chart.Infact Navasa analysis as per Manasagari,Saravali.Brihad yavana Jataka and Nakshtra Chudmanai too emphsise the need to apply navamsa for a total understanding of the jatak..Classification of Navamsa as Dhatu,Moola and Jeeva are inter aspecting having relevance to assess fortunes of an Individal on various aspects.of this grihastha or the follow up of marraige needs a special effort aprt from implications of 7th H,7th lord,2nd H 2nd lord and any connectivity 5th,10th houses or 12th or 8th.Natal Chart might be a potential means but other aspects with reference strngth of house,planets.dasa lords and their dynamic relationships need detailed review before any body infers good or bad of the treends/indications.I for one take the support for over all assesssment from navamsa for any aspect of life. > > Taking the aid of divisional charts mainly Navamsa is a debatable issue.Several authors,teachers in Astrology and others opined  that navamsa of all the shadvargas or shodas vargas has it's own  and unique importance with reference to Navamsa lagna as well as placement of plants.Planets at birth if in good or bad state,may not be the same as the individual progresses and each house/bhava reveals the trend along with lords.These divisional charts mainly Navamsa for finding out a spouse nature and their relationship require attantion and analysis. > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@> wrote: > > > > Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@> > > Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions > > jyotish-vidya > > Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:20 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nilesh, > > > > > > > > ///I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya ..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round/// > > > > > > > > It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main " Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm > > > > > > > > My own view in regards to navamsha and other vargas is that they should not be viewed as separate (stand alone) charts with bhava lordship/occupancy etc as they're simply divisions of the natal chart itself. In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way. > > > > > > > > As an example, my dasa lord Mercury, in exaltation in 9th (grandchildren) with no malefic aspect, should indicate all-round good results, whereas the reality is quite different. Looking at saptamsha I find Mercury occupies sign of Gemini...6th dusthana bhava in natal chart. This definitely reflects the situation with grandchildren during this mahadasa more accurately. Sub-dasas would also be looked at in this way. > > > > > > > > If lagna or any graha is vargottama it's dignity in natal chart is reinforced i.e. an exalted graha gains in benefic status, whereas a debilitated graha is doubly afflicted etc.. > > > > > > > > Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha. > > > > > > > > Perhaps members might consider the vargas in this way (as related to their charts) and put forward their own experience. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Mrs. Wendy > > > > http://JyotishVidya .com > > > > > > > > ============ ========= ===== > > > > > > > > nilesh joshi > > > > Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:54 PM > > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions > > > > > > > > Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go through it again. > > > > > > > > Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well. > > > > > > > > As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective - > > > > > > > > I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya ..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round > > > > > > > > I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal chart) in the navamsa. > > > > > > > > Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. > > > > > > > > Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought. > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > > > ============ ========= === > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > > > > > http://www.eset. com > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Learned members, Dr B.V. Raman writes the following in his book Notable Horoscopes in page No.247 while analyzing the chart of Albert Einstein – birth details he used: - Born on 14th March 1879 at 11:30 am – LMT- Lat 48N24 and Long 10E00. Quote: Rahu, despite his incendiary nature, is aspected (in the Navamsa) by Mercury (karaka for intellect) and Jupiter (karaka for wisdom). Rahu Dasa commenced in 1937 and lasted till January 1955. It was during Rahu – due to his peculiar disposition - that Einstein went on thinking, speculating and braiding together not only some strands of experience, time with space, mass with energy, gravitation with space time but to braid together the whole of our physical experience in a single theory and look for unit in all nature. Rahu gave him success. But because Rahu is in the 8th with planet of destruction, Mars, Einstein who at 26 had for the first time equated mass with energy now saw the equation threaten the world. Einstein's death took place as soon as Jupiter Dasa commenced. It will be seen that Jupiter is a maraka as he is lord of the 7th and is in the constellation of Rahu. Unquote: Ravindramani writes: I have the copies of almost all the books written by Dr. B.V. Raman. What I understand is that Dr. B.V. Raman considered the planetary aspects in Navamsa chart. Further I understand that he was of the view that nodes are aspected by other planets. I am not asking anybody here to follow what Raman says. I just bring to your notice that how he analyses a chart and and to show how different astrologers use the Navamsa chart. Perhaps he could have used his own ayanamsa. If you use Lahiri, planetary positions in different vargas would change. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani >Dear Melissa, > As some members (myself included) may not have this particular book you refer to, it would be helpful if you could provide the data for these charts so we could take a look at them. > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Dear ones, I would like to analyze my own chart about marriage/no marriage through navamsa aswell.My opinion is without consulting navamsa one should not predict. 7H is aspd by mer1,10;sun12 and mars3,8.(no marriage) 7L in 10th asp by moon11 mutually(gaja kesari) 7L dispositor is also mer in PKY(PAPAKARTARI)in Lagna.(no marriage) 7L in the naksatra of mars3,8 in12th.(no marriage)or death of spuse. NAVAMSA 7H is in RK axis with ketu while 7L Mer is deb in lagna with ven and Rahu(no marriage/possible marriage) 7L of Rasi jup in exch with ven 8L of amsa.(no marriage) .....Do.. jup conjuncts exal and vargottama sat in 8th.(no marriage) What Rasi chart is showing Navamsa is confirming. till date i am not married.I am 56yrs.Birth data for reference.17-9-1953;guntur(india)@6.35am.Virgo lagna,moola naks3p. Regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Nilesh, > > ///I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round/// > > It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main " Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya.com/articles.htm > > My own view in regards to navamsha and other vargas is that they should not be viewed as separate (stand alone) charts with bhava lordship/occupancy etc as they're simply divisions of the natal chart itself. In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way. > > As an example, my dasa lord Mercury, in exaltation in 9th (grandchildren) with no malefic aspect, should indicate all-round good results, whereas the reality is quite different. Looking at saptamsha I find Mercury occupies sign of Gemini...6th dusthana bhava in natal chart. This definitely reflects the situation with grandchildren during this mahadasa more accurately. Sub-dasas would also be looked at in this way. > > If lagna or any graha is vargottama it's dignity in natal chart is reinforced i.e. an exalted graha gains in benefic status, whereas a debilitated graha is doubly afflicted etc.. > > Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha. > > Perhaps members might consider the vargas in this way (as related to their charts) and put forward their own experience. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ========================== > > > nilesh joshi > Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:54 PM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions > > > > Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go through it again. > > Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well. > > As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective - > > I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round > > I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal chart) in the navamsa. > > Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. > > Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought. > > Warm Regards > > Nilesh > > ======================== > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Dear Ravindramani, ///Quote: Rahu, despite his incendiary nature, is aspected (in the Navamsa) by Mercury (karaka for intellect) and Jupiter (karaka for wisdom)./// I, personally, would look more closely at the natal chart in conjunction with dasamsha (D10) in regards to such success/status. In dasamsha Rahu occupies Sagittarius whilst natal Rahu's dispositor Saturn (dispositor also of Jupiter) is closely conjunct lagnesh Mercury. ///Quote: It was during Rahu - due to his peculiar disposition - that Einstein went on thinking, speculating and braiding together not only some strands of experience, time with space, mass with energy, gravitation with space time but to braid together the whole of our physical experience in a single theory and look for unit in all nature. Rahu gave him success./// In actual fact Einstein's painstaking labors were unsuccessful in establishing a single theory for everything. The theory of everything (unified field) remains a controversial topic amongst physicists to this today. But that's by-the-by I suppose as, no doubt, he was a genius mathematician. I read a quote recently that impressed me: **Einstein's gifts inevitably resulted in his dwelling much in intellectual solitude** Note Moon isolated in chart in nakshatra of Mercury who is closely conjunct Saturn (the planet of solitude). As we know, any relationship between Moon and Mercury (son of Moon), indicates a strong intellectual nature. ///I have the copies of almost all the books written by Dr. B.V. Raman. What I understand is that Dr. B.V. Raman considered the planetary aspects in Navamsa chart. Further I understand that he was of the view that nodes are aspected by other planets./// I have only one of his books (Three Hundred Important Combinations) which I think some kind person gave to me? As for his views on aspects...put quite simply; these are HIS views! Mine differ from this, as you know. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ======================== ravindramani Wednesday, 27 January 2010 12:20 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Using Navamsa for Marriage Predictions Learned members, Dr B.V. Raman writes the following in his book Notable Horoscopes in page No.247 while analyzing the chart of Albert Einstein - birth details he used: - Born on 14th March 1879 at 11:30 am - LMT- Lat 48N24 and Long 10E00. Quote: Rahu, despite his incendiary nature, is aspected (in the Navamsa) by Mercury (karaka for intellect) and Jupiter (karaka for wisdom). Rahu Dasa commenced in 1937 and lasted till January 1955. It was during Rahu - due to his peculiar disposition - that Einstein went on thinking, speculating and braiding together not only some strands of experience, time with space, mass with energy, gravitation with space time but to braid together the whole of our physical experience in a single theory and look for unit in all nature. Rahu gave him success. But because Rahu is in the 8th with planet of destruction, Mars, Einstein who at 26 had for the first time equated mass with energy now saw the equation threaten the world. Einstein's death took place as soon as Jupiter Dasa commenced. It will be seen that Jupiter is a maraka as he is lord of the 7th and is in the constellation of Rahu. Unquote: Ravindramani writes: I have the copies of almost all the books written by Dr. B.V. Raman. What I understand is that Dr. B.V. Raman considered the planetary aspects in Navamsa chart. Further I understand that he was of the view that nodes are aspected by other planets. I am not asking anybody here to follow what Raman says. I just bring to your notice that how he analyses a chart and and to show how different astrologers use the Navamsa chart. Perhaps he could have used his own ayanamsa. If you use Lahiri, planetary positions in different vargas would change. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani >Dear Melissa, > As some members (myself included) may not have this particular book you refer to, it would be helpful if you could provide the data for these charts so we could take a look at them. > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya .com ============================= .. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Dear Gopi, In my view, 7th lord's dispositor (Mercury) is conjunct 12th lord Sun whilst Venus conjuncts Ketu. These conditions together in a chart can deny marriage. Furthermore Mars, in nakshatra of Ketu in 12th, is 7th lord's nakshatra lord. In navamsha: 7th lord Jupiter occupies sign of Libra which holds Saturn, planet of denial. Saturn himself occupies nakshatra of 8th dusthana lord Mars who aspects 7th from 12th dusthana. Yuvatikaraka Venus occupies Pisces navamsha whilst 7th lord Jupiter (Rasi) is denying marriage as seen in delineation above. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ======================== gopalakrishna Wednesday, 27 January 2010 1:24 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions Dear ones, I would like to analyze my own chart about marriage/no marriage through navamsa aswell.My opinion is without consulting navamsa one should not predict. 7H is aspd by mer1,10;sun12 and mars3,8.(no marriage) 7L in 10th asp by moon11 mutually(gaja kesari) 7L dispositor is also mer in PKY(PAPAKARTARI)in Lagna.(no marriage) 7L in the naksatra of mars3,8 in12th.(no marriage)or death of spuse. NAVAMSA 7H is in RK axis with ketu while 7L Mer is deb in lagna with ven and Rahu(no marriage/possible marriage) 7L of Rasi jup in exch with ven 8L of amsa.(no marriage) .....Do.. jup conjuncts exal and vargottama sat in 8th.(no marriage) What Rasi chart is showing Navamsa is confirming. till date i am not married.I am 56yrs.Birth data for reference.17-9-1953;guntur(india)@6.35am.Virgo lagna,moola naks3p. Regards, gopi. ======================= .. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Dear Shri Gopi,Mrs Wendy and others A chart of great relavence for several aspects of like.Karak for marraige venus in watery sign with ketu in lagna and helps a lot to understand jyotish principles in more than one way.Thanx to Shri Gopi Probably navamsa situation comes secondary to find reasons.Lagna itself is dual and the dasas sequence was not conducive This is an instance of early marraige but nodes playing their role have burned other issues effecting kutumba bhava,2nd House. ...First and foremost both lagnas r duel in nature.navamsa lagna being jal rasi,the strength of lagna in this persoective was not strong enough. The dasa sequence wasnot promoting the efforts.The chances/opportunity that hace come and could have been decided till dec 6th 2006 when jupiter was in scorpio and libra in gochara have not been capitalised. yet the Rahu/Ve/Rahu,Venus and jupiter are potentially good with Cancer in mercury ruled nakshtra(Aslesh4th) and with Ketu in 11th happened to be exalted in meena navamsa with lagna lord in debilitation.Astrologically exalted mercury happened to be in debilitation navamsa lagna and with ketu plays the role of spoiler. jupiter is darakarak in 10th from lagna,a dual sign in mrigasira nakshtra.In navamsa with exalted and rasi vargottama jupiter. 2.saturn in kutumba bhava ,2nd from lagna also frustates the eforts.AS exalted lord of 5th and 6th all initiatives remained insignificant Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Wed, 1/27/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions jyotish-vidya Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 1:40 AM  Dear Gopi, In my view, 7th lord's dispositor (Mercury) is conjunct 12th lord Sun whilst Venus conjuncts Ketu. These conditions together in a chart can deny marriage. Furthermore Mars, in nakshatra of Ketu in 12th, is 7th lord's nakshatra lord. In navamsha: 7th lord Jupiter occupies sign of Libra which holds Saturn, planet of denial. Saturn himself occupies nakshatra of 8th dusthana lord Mars who aspects 7th from 12th dusthana. Yuvatikaraka Venus occupies Pisces navamsha whilst 7th lord Jupiter (Rasi) is denying marriage as seen in delineation above.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ============ ========= === gopalakrishna Wednesday, 27 January 2010 1:24 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions Dear ones, I would like to analyze my own chart about marriage/no marriage through navamsa aswell.My opinion is without consulting navamsa one should not predict. 7H is aspd by mer1,10;sun12 and mars3,8.(no marriage) 7L in 10th asp by moon11 mutually(gaja kesari) 7L dispositor is also mer in PKY(PAPAKARTARI) in Lagna.(no marriage) 7L in the naksatra of mars3,8 in12th.(no marriage)or death of spuse. NAVAMSA 7H is in RK axis with ketu while 7L Mer is deb in lagna with ven and Rahu(no marriage/possible marriage) 7L of Rasi jup in exch with ven 8L of amsa.(no marriage) .....Do.. jup conjuncts exal and vargottama sat in 8th.(no marriage) What Rasi chart is showing Navamsa is confirming. till date i am not married.I am 56yrs.Birth data for reference.17- 9-1953;guntur( india)@6. 35am.Virgo lagna,moola naks3p. Regards, gopi. ============ ========= == .. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Dear Mrs Wendy, yes its true but i was limiting myself to 7th house/7th lord and Navamsa only..... Warm regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Gopi, > > In my view, 7th lord's dispositor (Mercury) is conjunct 12th lord Sun whilst Venus conjuncts Ketu. These conditions together in a chart can deny marriage. Furthermore Mars, in nakshatra of Ketu in 12th, is 7th lord's nakshatra lord. > > In navamsha: > 7th lord Jupiter occupies sign of Libra which holds Saturn, planet of denial. Saturn himself occupies nakshatra of 8th dusthana lord Mars who aspects 7th from 12th dusthana. Yuvatikaraka Venus occupies Pisces navamsha whilst 7th lord Jupiter (Rasi) is denying marriage as seen in delineation above. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ======================== > > > gopalakrishna > Wednesday, 27 January 2010 1:24 PM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions > > > > Dear ones, > I would like to analyze my own chart about marriage/no marriage through > navamsa aswell.My opinion is without consulting navamsa one should not > predict. > 7H is aspd by mer1,10;sun12 and mars3,8.(no marriage) > 7L in 10th asp by moon11 mutually(gaja kesari) > 7L dispositor is also mer in PKY(PAPAKARTARI)in Lagna.(no marriage) > 7L in the naksatra of mars3,8 in12th.(no marriage)or death of spuse. > NAVAMSA > 7H is in RK axis with ketu while 7L Mer is deb in lagna with ven and > Rahu(no marriage/possible marriage) > 7L of Rasi jup in exch with ven 8L of amsa.(no marriage) > ....Do.. jup conjuncts exal and vargottama sat in 8th.(no marriage) > What Rasi chart is showing Navamsa is confirming. > till date i am not married.I am 56yrs.Birth data for > reference.17-9-1953;guntur(india)@6.35am.Virgo lagna,moola naks3p. > Regards, > gopi. > > ======================= > > > > > . > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Dear Mrs Wendy, Even Dasa too played it's part as the sequence followed indicated. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Wed, 1/27/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions jyotish-vidya Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 1:40 AM  Dear Gopi, In my view, 7th lord's dispositor (Mercury) is conjunct 12th lord Sun whilst Venus conjuncts Ketu. These conditions together in a chart can deny marriage. Furthermore Mars, in nakshatra of Ketu in 12th, is 7th lord's nakshatra lord. In navamsha: 7th lord Jupiter occupies sign of Libra which holds Saturn, planet of denial. Saturn himself occupies nakshatra of 8th dusthana lord Mars who aspects 7th from 12th dusthana. Yuvatikaraka Venus occupies Pisces navamsha whilst 7th lord Jupiter (Rasi) is denying marriage as seen in delineation above.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ============ ========= === gopalakrishna Wednesday, 27 January 2010 1:24 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions Dear ones, I would like to analyze my own chart about marriage/no marriage through navamsa aswell.My opinion is without consulting navamsa one should not predict. 7H is aspd by mer1,10;sun12 and mars3,8.(no marriage) 7L in 10th asp by moon11 mutually(gaja kesari) 7L dispositor is also mer in PKY(PAPAKARTARI) in Lagna.(no marriage) 7L in the naksatra of mars3,8 in12th.(no marriage)or death of spuse. NAVAMSA 7H is in RK axis with ketu while 7L Mer is deb in lagna with ven and Rahu(no marriage/possible marriage) 7L of Rasi jup in exch with ven 8L of amsa.(no marriage) .....Do.. jup conjuncts exal and vargottama sat in 8th.(no marriage) What Rasi chart is showing Navamsa is confirming. till date i am not married.I am 56yrs.Birth data for reference.17- 9-1953;guntur( india)@6. 35am.Virgo lagna,moola naks3p. Regards, gopi. ============ ========= == .. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Dear Shri Krishnan ji, thanks for your validation and effort. //.saturn in kutumba bhava ,2nd from lagna also frustates the eforts.AS exalted lord of 5th and 6th all initiatives remained insignificant// there were no efforts from my side since there is no inclination as such as i was spiritually inclined very early in life and decided not to get married at all.5L of spiritual practices is exalted and vargottama aspd by jup and 9L ven is with ketu also asp by sat along with dispositor moon in 4H of moksha(trikona).I also find Mo asp by both jup and sat had given me the mental strength to withstand natural pangs for sex.......I am the eldest sibling aswell. Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Shri Gopi,Mrs Wendy and others > A chart of great relavence for several aspects of like.Karak for marraige venus in watery sign with ketu in lagna and helps a lot to understand jyotish principles in more than one way.Thanx to Shri Gopi > Probably navamsa situation comes secondary to find reasons.Lagna itself is dual and the dasas sequence was not conducive > This is an instance of early marraige but nodes playing their role have burned other issues effecting kutumba bhava,2nd House. > ..First and foremost both lagnas r duel in nature.navamsa lagna being jal rasi,the strength of lagna in this persoective was not strong enough. > The dasa sequence wasnot promoting the efforts.The chances/opportunity that hace come and could have been decided till dec 6th 2006 when jupiter was in scorpio and libra in gochara have not been capitalised. > yet the Rahu/Ve/Rahu,Venus and jupiter are potentially good with Cancer in mercury ruled nakshtra(Aslesh4th) and with Ketu in 11th happened to be exalted in meena navamsa with lagna lord in debilitation.Astrologically exalted mercury happened to be in debilitation navamsa lagna and with ketu plays the role of spoiler. > jupiter is darakarak in 10th from lagna,a dual sign in mrigasira nakshtra.In navamsa with exalted and rasi vargottama jupiter. > 2.saturn in kutumba bhava ,2nd from lagna also frustates the eforts.AS exalted lord of 5th and 6th all initiatives remained insignificant > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Wed, 1/27/10, Mrs. Wendy jyotishvidya wrote: > > Mrs. Wendy jyotishvidya > Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions > jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 1:40 AM >  > > > Dear Gopi, > > > > In my view, 7th lord's dispositor (Mercury) is conjunct 12th lord Sun whilst Venus conjuncts Ketu. These conditions together in a chart can deny marriage. Furthermore Mars, in nakshatra of Ketu in 12th, is 7th lord's nakshatra lord. > > > > In navamsha: > > 7th lord Jupiter occupies sign of Libra which holds Saturn, planet of denial. Saturn himself occupies nakshatra of 8th dusthana lord Mars who aspects 7th from 12th dusthana. Yuvatikaraka Venus occupies Pisces navamsha whilst 7th lord Jupiter (Rasi) is denying marriage as seen in delineation above.. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya .com > > > > ============ ========= === > > > > gopalakrishna > > Wednesday, 27 January 2010 1:24 PM > > jyotish-vidya > > Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions > > > > Dear ones, > > I would like to analyze my own chart about marriage/no marriage through > > navamsa aswell.My opinion is without consulting navamsa one should not > > predict. > > 7H is aspd by mer1,10;sun12 and mars3,8.(no marriage) > > 7L in 10th asp by moon11 mutually(gaja kesari) > > 7L dispositor is also mer in PKY(PAPAKARTARI) in Lagna.(no marriage) > > 7L in the naksatra of mars3,8 in12th.(no marriage)or death of spuse. > > NAVAMSA > > 7H is in RK axis with ketu while 7L Mer is deb in lagna with ven and > > Rahu(no marriage/possible marriage) > > 7L of Rasi jup in exch with ven 8L of amsa.(no marriage) > > ....Do.. jup conjuncts exal and vargottama sat in 8th.(no marriage) > > What Rasi chart is showing Navamsa is confirming. > > till date i am not married.I am 56yrs.Birth data for > > reference.17- 9-1953;guntur( india)@6. 35am.Virgo lagna,moola naks3p. > > Regards, > > gopi. > > > > ============ ========= == > > > > . > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset. com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Dear Wendyji,  //It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main " Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm//  I am aware of it - and it is a great thing thing to have these articles.  1.//In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way.// 2.//Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.//  I am not exactly able to understand it, can you please elaborate.  Warm Regards  Nilesh --- On Wed, 27/1/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions jyotish-vidya Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 7:50 AM  Dear Nilesh, ///I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya ..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round/// It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main " Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm My own view in regards to navamsha and other vargas is that they should not be viewed as separate (stand alone) charts with bhava lordship/occupancy etc as they're simply divisions of the natal chart itself. In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way. As an example, my dasa lord Mercury, in exaltation in 9th (grandchildren) with no malefic aspect, should indicate all-round good results, whereas the reality is quite different. Looking at saptamsha I find Mercury occupies sign of Gemini...6th dusthana bhava in natal chart. This definitely reflects the situation with grandchildren during this mahadasa more accurately. Sub-dasas would also be looked at in this way. If lagna or any graha is vargottama it's dignity in natal chart is reinforced i.e. an exalted graha gains in benefic status, whereas a debilitated graha is doubly afflicted etc.. Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha. Perhaps members might consider the vargas in this way (as related to their charts) and put forward their own experience. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ============ ========= ===== nilesh joshi Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:54 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go through it again. Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well. As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective - I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal chart) in the navamsa. Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa. Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought. Warm Regards Nilesh ============ ========= === __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4808 (20100126) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Dear Nilesh, I'm not too sure how to answer your question in a way that's clearer for you? But I'll have a stab at it again.. 1.//In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way.// I think the example I gave was dasa lord Mercury (6th/9th lord) occupying sign of Gemini in saptamsha (children/grandchildren). In rasi Gemini has manifested as 6th dusthana bhava. Saturn, lord of 2nd house of family, occupies this house in nakshatra of malefic Mars. Indicating difficulties, both for grandchildren themselves and/or difficulties affecting our relationship itself. This is my understanding of how the vargas are read in conjunction with rasi. As you can see, the varga is not contradicting what is present in rasi. What it does make clear is that, in regards to grandchildren, dasa lord Mercury's ownership of 6th is the most dominant factor. My apologies, Nilesh, if I still haven't expressed this clearly... ///2.//Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.///// It will probably be best to point you to the chapter in BPHS that deals specifically with this. See the following link http://jyotishvidya.com/ch6.htm **42-53. VARGA CLASSIFICATION: Maitreya, explained now are the sum effects of classifications of different divisions (or Vargas so far narrated). These are four kinds, viz. Shad Varga (6 divisions considered), Saptha Varga (7 divisions considered), Dasa Varga (10 divisions considered), and Shodasa Varga (all the 16 divisions considered). In the Shadvarga classification, the Varga designations are Kimsuka, Vyanjana, Chaamara, Chartra, and Kundalal according to a planet being in 2 to 6 combinations of good Vargas. Next is the Saptha Varga in which these classifications continue in the same manner up to six combinations of good Vargas, the 7th additional Varga getting classified as Mukuta. In the dasa Varga scheme, the designations commence from Pasrijata, etc., such as two good Vargas - Parijatha, 3. Uttama, 4. Gopura, 5. Simhasana, 6. Paaravata, 7. Devaloka, 8. Brahmaloka, 9. Sakravahana, and 10. Vargas - Sridhama. In the Shodasa Varga Scheme the combinations of Vargas go with designations thus: two good Vargas - Bhedaka, 3. Kusuma, 4. Nagapushpa, 5. Kanduka, 6. Kerala, 7. Kalpavriksha, 8. Chandanan Vana, 9. Poornachandra, 10. Uchchaisrava, 11. Dhanvantari, 12. Suryakanta, 13. Vidruma, 14. Sakrasimhasana, 15. Goloka, and 16. Vargas - Sri Vallabha. In these divisions, the divisions falling in the planet's exaltation sign, Moolatrikona sign, own sign, and the signs owned by the lord of an angle from the Arudha ascendant are all to be considered (as good Vargas). The divisions of a combust planet, defeated planet, weak planet, and a planet in bad Avasthas like Sayana be all ignored to be auspicious, for these destroy the good yogas.** Hope this helps... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ================================ nilesh joshi Thursday, 28 January 2010 12:50 AM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions Dear Wendyji, //It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main " Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm// I am aware of it - and it is a great thing thing to have these articles. 1.//In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way.// 2.//Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.// I am not exactly able to understand it, can you please elaborate. Warm Regards Nilesh ============================ .. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4811 (20100127) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Dear Wendyji,  I get it now. Had to read it twice and read chapter 6 too I was confused with the meaning of vargas. I think slowly age is catching upon me.  Warm Regards  Nilesh --- On Thu, 28/1/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions jyotish-vidya Thursday, 28 January, 2010, 10:10 AM  Dear Nilesh, I'm not too sure how to answer your question in a way that's clearer for you? But I'll have a stab at it again.. 1.//In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way.// I think the example I gave was dasa lord Mercury (6th/9th lord) occupying sign of Gemini in saptamsha (children/grandchil dren). In rasi Gemini has manifested as 6th dusthana bhava. Saturn, lord of 2nd house of family, occupies this house in nakshatra of malefic Mars. Indicating difficulties, both for grandchildren themselves and/or difficulties affecting our relationship itself. This is my understanding of how the vargas are read in conjunction with rasi. As you can see, the varga is not contradicting what is present in rasi. What it does make clear is that, in regards to grandchildren, dasa lord Mercury's ownership of 6th is the most dominant factor. My apologies, Nilesh, if I still haven't expressed this clearly... ///2.//Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.///// It will probably be best to point you to the chapter in BPHS that deals specifically with this. See the following link http://jyotishvidya .com/ch6. htm **42-53. VARGA CLASSIFICATION: Maitreya, explained now are the sum effects of classifications of different divisions (or Vargas so far narrated). These are four kinds, viz. Shad Varga (6 divisions considered), Saptha Varga (7 divisions considered), Dasa Varga (10 divisions considered), and Shodasa Varga (all the 16 divisions considered). In the Shadvarga classification, the Varga designations are Kimsuka, Vyanjana, Chaamara, Chartra, and Kundalal according to a planet being in 2 to 6 combinations of good Vargas. Next is the Saptha Varga in which these classifications continue in the same manner up to six combinations of good Vargas, the 7th additional Varga getting classified as Mukuta. In the dasa Varga scheme, the designations commence from Pasrijata, etc., such as two good Vargas - Parijatha, 3. Uttama, 4. Gopura, 5. Simhasana, 6. Paaravata, 7. Devaloka, 8. Brahmaloka, 9. Sakravahana, and 10. Vargas - Sridhama. In the Shodasa Varga Scheme the combinations of Vargas go with designations thus: two good Vargas - Bhedaka, 3. Kusuma, 4. Nagapushpa, 5. Kanduka, 6. Kerala, 7. Kalpavriksha, 8. Chandanan Vana, 9. Poornachandra, 10. Uchchaisrava, 11. Dhanvantari, 12. Suryakanta, 13. Vidruma, 14. Sakrasimhasana, 15. Goloka, and 16. Vargas - Sri Vallabha. In these divisions, the divisions falling in the planet's exaltation sign, Moolatrikona sign, own sign, and the signs owned by the lord of an angle from the Arudha ascendant are all to be considered (as good Vargas). The divisions of a combust planet, defeated planet, weak planet, and a planet in bad Avasthas like Sayana be all ignored to be auspicious, for these destroy the good yogas.** Hope this helps... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ============ ========= ========= == nilesh joshi Thursday, 28 January 2010 12:50 AM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions Dear Wendyji, //It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main " Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm// I am aware of it - and it is a great thing thing to have these articles. 1.//In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way.// 2.//Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.// I am not exactly able to understand it, can you please elaborate. Warm Regards Nilesh ============ ========= ======= .. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4811 (20100127) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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