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Dear Uttaraji,

 

Uttaraji - Hoping that you are fine now as regards your health.

Wishing you an early recuperation

 

 

Dear Wendyji and Group,

 

How does one use Navamsa for marriage analysis.

Do we have to see the placement of 7th lord ( of Rasi chart (D1)) in navamsa or

do we analyze the Navamsa horoscope itself and see the 7th house and its lord

(D9's 7 house analysis) or do we see both.

 

There are some astrologers in India who give more importance to Navamsa for

marriage and relationship analysis.

 

Warm Regards

 

 

Nilesh

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Dear Nilesh,

 

Thank you for your well wishes!

 

My surgery is scheduled for 10:15am (if on time) on Monday 25 Jan.

The surgeon will remove a tumor from the soft tissue of the chest wall along

with a few Lymph nodes. I am sure all will go well, as I have a very good team

of doctors (14)at an excellent Medical Center.

Final Pathology report will be in by end of week. Which will then define any

further surgery if needed and other tests that need to be done, including a

treatment plan.

 

Your question regarding marriage prediction using Navamsa or other or both is a

very good one. I look forward to what the leaned members have to say on this

discussion. It should be very interesting.

 

Also, I am sure a discussion on how to use the Navamsa properly when delineating

charts will be very informative for all students.

 

As Always,

 

Uttara

 

jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27 wrote:

>

> Dear Uttaraji,

>

> Uttaraji - Hoping that you are fine now as regards your health.

> Wishing you an early recuperation

>

>

> Dear Wendyji and Group,

>

> How does one use Navamsa for marriage analysis.

> Do we have to see the placement of 7th lord ( of Rasi chart (D1)) in navamsa

or do we analyze the Navamsa horoscope itself and see the 7th house and its lord

(D9's 7 house analysis) or do we see both.

>

> There are some astrologers in India who give more importance to Navamsa for

marriage and relationship analysis.

>

> Warm Regards

>

>

> Nilesh

>

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dear Uttaraji

jayshrikrishana

as

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Uttara <muttaraphalguni

jyotish-vidya

Sat, Jan 23, 2010 11:33 pm

Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

 

 

 

 

Dear Nilesh,

 

Thank you for your well wishes!

 

My surgery is scheduled for 10:15am (if on time) on Monday 25 Jan.

The surgeon will remove a tumor from the soft tissue of the chest wall along

with a few Lymph nodes. I am sure all will go well, as I have a very good team

of doctors (14)at an excellent Medical Center.

Final Pathology report will be in by end of week. Which will then define any

further surgery if needed and other tests that need to be done, including a

treatment plan.

 

Your question regarding marriage prediction using Navamsa or other or both is a

very good one. I look forward to what the leaned members have to say on this

discussion. It should be very interesting.

 

Also, I am sure a discussion on how to use the Navamsa properly when delineating

charts will be very informative for all students.

 

As Always,

 

Uttara

 

jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27 wrote:

>

> Dear Uttaraji,

>

> Uttaraji - Hoping that you are fine now as regards your health.

> Wishing you an early recuperation

>

>

> Dear Wendyji and Group,

>

> How does one use Navamsa for marriage analysis.

> Do we have to see the placement of 7th lord ( of Rasi chart (D1)) in navamsa

or do we analyze the Navamsa horoscope itself and see the 7th house and its lord

(D9's 7 house analysis) or do we see both.

>

> There are some astrologers in India who give more importance to Navamsa for

marriage and relationship analysis.

>

> Warm Regards

>

>

> Nilesh

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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dear uttaraji

jay shrikrishana.

 

as i read your opration is fixed on 25th jan

pl do mahamrutunjay mantra as it mon day moon is of vrashabha

and day of lord shiva .lord shiva may give long good life.

shiv mahimna stotra,shiv manash pooja and mahamrutunjay mantra make dying person

a live

pl do by heart

mrutunjay mahadev trahimam sharnagat

ganma mrutu gara vyadhi piditam karma bhandhane

god bless you and we pray for long healthy painless life

jay shri krishana

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Uttara <muttaraphalguni

jyotish-vidya

Sat, Jan 23, 2010 11:33 pm

Re: Using Navamsa

for marriage predictions

 

 

 

 

Dear Nilesh,

 

Thank you for your well wishes!

 

My surgery is scheduled for 10:15am (if on time) on Monday 25 Jan.

The surgeon will remove a tumor from the soft tissue of the chest wall along

with a few Lymph nodes. I am sure all will go well, as I have a very good team

of doctors (14)at an excellent Medical Center.

Final Pathology report will be in by end of week. Which will then define any

further surgery if needed and other tests that need to be done, including a

treatment plan.

 

Your question regarding marriage prediction using Navamsa or other or both is a

very good one. I look forward to what the leaned members have to say on this

discussion. It should be very interesting.

 

Also, I am sure a discussion on how to use the Navamsa properly when delineating

charts will be very informative for all students.

 

As Always,

 

Uttara

 

jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27 wrote:

>

> Dear Uttaraji,

>

> Uttaraji - Hoping that you are fine now as regards your health.

> Wishing you an early recuperation

>

>

> Dear Wendyji and Group,

>

> How does one use Navamsa for marriage analysis.

> Do we have to see the placement of 7th lord ( of Rasi chart (D1)) in navamsa

or do we analyze the Navamsa horoscope itself and see the 7th house and its lord

(D9's 7 house analysis) or do we see both.

>

> There are some astrologers in India who give more importance to Navamsa for

marriage and relationship analysis.

>

> Warm Regards

>

>

> Nilesh

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you Ramesh for your mantra guidance!

will do my heart and often.

 

************

 

An added NOTE about Navamsa: Jyotishvidya.com has a very good article about how

to use Navamsa properly.

 

Check it out. http://jyotishvidya.com/navamsa.htm

 

As Always

 

jyotish-vidya , jora wrote:

>

>

> dear uttaraji

> jay shrikrishana.

>

> as i read your opration is fixed on 25th jan

> pl do mahamrutunjay mantra as it mon day moon is of vrashabha

> and day of lord shiva .lord shiva may give long good life.

> shiv mahimna stotra,shiv manash pooja and mahamrutunjay mantra make dying

person a live

> pl do by heart

> mrutunjay mahadev trahimam sharnagat

> ganma mrutu gara vyadhi piditam karma bhandhane

> god bless you and we pray for long healthy painless life

> jay shri krishana

 

> Uttara <muttaraphalguni

> jyotish-vidya

> Sat, Jan 23, 2010 11:33 pm

> Re: Using Navamsa

> for marriage predictions

>

>

>

>

> Dear Nilesh,

>

> Thank you for your well wishes!

>

> My surgery is scheduled for 10:15am (if on time) on Monday 25 Jan.

> The surgeon will remove a tumor from the soft tissue of the chest wall along

with a few Lymph nodes. I am sure all will go well, as I have a very good team

of doctors (14)at an excellent Medical Center.

> Final Pathology report will be in by end of week. Which will then define any

further surgery if needed and other tests that need to be done, including a

treatment plan.

>

> Your question regarding marriage prediction using Navamsa or other or both is

a very good one. I look forward to what the leaned members have to say on this

discussion. It should be very interesting.

>

> Also, I am sure a discussion on how to use the Navamsa properly when

delineating charts will be very informative for all students.

>

> As Always,

>

> Uttara

>

> jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Uttaraji,

> >

> > Uttaraji - Hoping that you are fine now as regards your health.

> > Wishing you an early recuperation

> >

> >

> > Dear Wendyji and Group,

> >

> > How does one use Navamsa for marriage analysis.

> > Do we have to see the placement of 7th lord ( of Rasi chart (D1)) in navamsa

or do we analyze the Navamsa horoscope itself and see the 7th house and its lord

(D9's 7 house analysis) or do we see both.

> >

> > There are some astrologers in India who give more importance to Navamsa for

marriage and relationship analysis.

> >

> > Warm Regards

> >

> >

> > Nilesh

> >

 

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Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go

through it again.

 

Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well.

 

As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective -

 

I feel that the 7th house and its lord  in natal chart (rasi ) is more

important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members

think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya

..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round

 

I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal

chart) in the navamsa.

 

Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

 

Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

--- On Sun, 24/1/10, Uttara <muttaraphalguni wrote:

 

 

Uttara <muttaraphalguni

Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

jyotish-vidya

Sunday, 24 January, 2010, 12:43 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you Ramesh for your mantra guidance!

will do my heart and often.

 

************

 

An added NOTE about Navamsa: Jyotishvidya. com has a very good article about how

to use Navamsa properly.

 

Check it out. http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm

 

As Always

 

jyotish-vidya, jora wrote:

>

>

> dear uttaraji

> jay shrikrishana.

>

> as i read your opration is fixed on 25th jan

> pl do mahamrutunjay mantra as it mon day moon is of vrashabha

> and day of lord shiva .lord shiva may give long good life.

> shiv mahimna stotra,shiv manash pooja and mahamrutunjay mantra make dying

person a live

> pl do by heart

> mrutunjay mahadev trahimam sharnagat

> ganma mrutu gara vyadhi piditam karma bhandhane

> god bless you and we pray for long healthy painless life

> jay shri krishana

 

> Uttara <muttaraphalguni@ ...>

> jyotish-vidya

> Sat, Jan 23, 2010 11:33 pm

> Re: Using Navamsa

> for marriage predictions

>

>

>

>

> Dear Nilesh,

>

> Thank you for your well wishes!

>

> My surgery is scheduled for 10:15am (if on time) on Monday 25 Jan.

> The surgeon will remove a tumor from the soft tissue of the chest wall along

with a few Lymph nodes. I am sure all will go well, as I have a very good team

of doctors (14)at an excellent Medical Center.

> Final Pathology report will be in by end of week. Which will then define any

further surgery if needed and other tests that need to be done, including a

treatment plan.

>

> Your question regarding marriage prediction using Navamsa or other or both is

a very good one. I look forward to what the leaned members have to say on this

discussion. It should be very interesting.

>

> Also, I am sure a discussion on how to use the Navamsa properly when

delineating charts will be very informative for all students.

>

> As Always,

>

> Uttara

>

> jyotish-vidya, " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear Uttaraji,

> >

> > Uttaraji - Hoping that you are fine now as regards your health.

> > Wishing you an early recuperation

> >

> >

> > Dear Wendyji and Group,

> >

> > How does one use Navamsa for marriage analysis.

> > Do we have to see the placement of 7th lord ( of Rasi chart (D1)) in navamsa

or do we analyze the Navamsa horoscope itself and see the 7th house and its lord

(D9's 7 house analysis) or do we see both.

> >

> > There are some astrologers in India who give more importance to Navamsa for

marriage and relationship analysis.

> >

> > Warm Regards

> >

> >

> > Nilesh

> >

 

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Nilesh ji & members,

 

This is my first posting so I hope I will be forgiven if I transgress any of the

group's established etiquette.

 

Respectfully, I address the third point of Nilesh ji: -

 

> Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

 

The astrologer B.V. Raman applies dristi rules to the navamsa. Examples abound

in 'Notable Horoscopes'. On page 55 we are told that Jupiter aspects Lagna in

navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn in the example chart being discussed, with

Lagna in Taurus, so the aspect from Jupiter is 5th aspect.

 

On page 56 it is stated that the navamsa Lagna is under the influence of several

planets " especially Jupiter and Kethu " - this is by 5th aspect. Mars aspects

Lagna by 4th aspect.

 

On page 62 B.V. Raman explains that Saturn aspects Sun in navamsa (in the chart

he is examining). We see that Saturn is in Libra and Sun in Sagittarius, so

Saturn aspects by his 3rd aspect.

 

On page 80: " In the navamsa Venus is considerably afflicted. " In this chart,

Venus in navamsa is associated with Mars but suffers also the 10th aspect of

Saturn and the 9th aspect of Rahu. The association of Mars alone would not make

Venus " considerably afflicted " .

 

On page 96: " In navamsa, again, the divine planet Jupiter with Mokshakaraka

Kethu is in the 10th (Karmasthana) aspected by Saturn. " Jupiter and Ketu are in

Taurus, Saturn is in Pisces, thus Saturn aspects Jupiter and Ketu by his 3rd

aspect.

 

There are many other examples in this book and in other writings of B.V. Raman.

 

Warm regards,

 

Melissa

 

~~~~~~~

Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go

through it again.

 

Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well.

 

As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective -

 

I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more

important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned

members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below

(http://jyotishvidya.com/navamsa.htm)- it mentions the other way round

 

I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal

chart) in the navamsa.

 

Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

 

Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Melissa,

 

As some members (myself included) may not have this particular book you refer

to, it would be helpful if you could provide the data for these charts so we

could take a look at them.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

 

=======================

 

 

 

 

Melissa Grove

Wednesday, 27 January 2010 4:16 AM

jyotish-vidya

Re: Using Navamsa for Marriage Predictions

 

 

 

Nilesh ji & members,

 

This is my first posting so I hope I will be forgiven if I transgress any of the

group's established etiquette.

 

Respectfully, I address the third point of Nilesh ji: -

 

> Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

 

The astrologer B.V. Raman applies dristi rules to the navamsa. Examples abound

in 'Notable Horoscopes'. On page 55 we are told that Jupiter aspects Lagna in

navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn in the example chart being discussed, with

Lagna in Taurus, so the aspect from Jupiter is 5th aspect.

 

On page 56 it is stated that the navamsa Lagna is under the influence of several

planets " especially Jupiter and Kethu " - this is by 5th aspect. Mars aspects

Lagna by 4th aspect.

 

On page 62 B.V. Raman explains that Saturn aspects Sun in navamsa (in the chart

he is examining). We see that Saturn is in Libra and Sun in Sagittarius, so

Saturn aspects by his 3rd aspect.

 

On page 80: " In the navamsa Venus is considerably afflicted. " In this chart,

Venus in navamsa is associated with Mars but suffers also the 10th aspect of

Saturn and the 9th aspect of Rahu. The association of Mars alone would not make

Venus " considerably afflicted " .

 

On page 96: " In navamsa, again, the divine planet Jupiter with Mokshakaraka

Kethu is in the 10th (Karmasthana) aspected by Saturn. " Jupiter and Ketu are in

Taurus, Saturn is in Pisces, thus Saturn aspects Jupiter and Ketu by his 3rd

aspect.

 

There are many other examples in this book and in other writings of B.V. Raman.

 

Warm regards,

 

Melissa

 

~~~~~~~

Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go

through it again.

 

Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well.

 

As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective -

 

I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more

important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned

members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below

(http://jyotishvidya.com/navamsa.htm)- it mentions the other way round

 

I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal

chart) in the navamsa.

 

Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

 

Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

 

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Dear Melissa,

 

I too, would be very interested in the information that you have put forth. Not

arguing, you understand, just wanting the resource to study. Because, as a

practice when one counts from a Parashara perspective technique it goes forward

not backwards.

 

This could become a very interesting topic of investigation for all.

 

As Always,

 

Uttara

 

jyotish-vidya , Melissa Grove <anglicus09 wrote:

>

> Nilesh ji & members,

>

> This is my first posting so I hope I will be forgiven if I transgress any of

the group's established etiquette.

>

> Respectfully, I address the third point of Nilesh ji: -

>

> > Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

>

> The astrologer B.V. Raman applies dristi rules to the navamsa. Examples abound

in 'Notable Horoscopes'. On page 55 we are told that Jupiter aspects Lagna in

navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn in the example chart being discussed, with

Lagna in Taurus, so the aspect from Jupiter is 5th aspect.

>

> On page 56 it is stated that the navamsa Lagna is under the influence of

several planets " especially Jupiter and Kethu " - this is by 5th aspect. Mars

aspects Lagna by 4th aspect.

>

> On page 62 B.V. Raman explains that Saturn aspects Sun in navamsa (in the

chart he is examining). We see that Saturn is in Libra and Sun in Sagittarius,

so Saturn aspects by his 3rd aspect.

>

> On page 80: " In the navamsa Venus is considerably afflicted. " In this chart,

Venus in navamsa is associated with Mars but suffers also the 10th aspect of

Saturn and the 9th aspect of Rahu. The association of Mars alone would not make

Venus " considerably afflicted " .

>

> On page 96: " In navamsa, again, the divine planet Jupiter with Mokshakaraka

Kethu is in the 10th (Karmasthana) aspected by Saturn. " Jupiter and Ketu are in

Taurus, Saturn is in Pisces, thus Saturn aspects Jupiter and Ketu by his 3rd

aspect.

>

> There are many other examples in this book and in other writings of B.V.

Raman.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Melissa

>

> ~~~~~~~

> Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go

through it again.

>

> Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well.

>

> As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective -

>

> I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more

> important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned

> members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below

(http://jyotishvidya.com/navamsa.htm)- it mentions the other way round

>

> I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the

natal chart) in the navamsa.

>

> Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

>

> Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought.

>

> Warm Regards

>

> Nilesh

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Nilesh,

 

///I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more

important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members

think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya

..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round///

 

It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV express

the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main " Articles "

page. http://jyotishvidya.com/articles.htm

 

My own view in regards to navamsha and other vargas is that they should not be

viewed as separate (stand alone) charts with bhava lordship/occupancy etc as

they're simply divisions of the natal chart itself. In regards to bhavas (in

vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in

natal chart) we would read it in that way.

 

As an example, my dasa lord Mercury, in exaltation in 9th (grandchildren) with

no malefic aspect, should indicate all-round good results, whereas the reality

is quite different. Looking at saptamsha I find Mercury occupies sign of

Gemini...6th dusthana bhava in natal chart. This definitely reflects the

situation with grandchildren during this mahadasa more accurately. Sub-dasas

would also be looked at in this way.

 

If lagna or any graha is vargottama it's dignity in natal chart is reinforced

i.e. an exalted graha gains in benefic status, whereas a debilitated graha is

doubly afflicted etc..

 

Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable

divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.

 

Perhaps members might consider the vargas in this way (as related to their

charts) and put forward their own experience.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

 

==========================

 

 

nilesh joshi

Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:54 PM

jyotish-vidya

Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

 

 

 

Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go

through it again.

 

Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well.

 

As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective -

 

I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important

than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about

the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa.

htm)- it mentions the other way round

 

I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal

chart) in the navamsa.

 

Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

 

Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

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Dear Mrs Wendy,Nilesh Ji and others,Navamsa being the nineth divison has also

link to bhagya( seen through 9H in the natal chart)In some context after

attaining the age of maturity and in adult stage,the need for spouse termed as

Dharma Patni joins the life as an ardhangi.Ardhangi is a term representing

fifty/half of the body.marraigae given lot of importance from the point of view

of bhagya of a native.So also wife is bhagya devata.navamsa is beleived to give

indications relating to spouse,his/her personality,relationships and the

cooperation along with mutuality of life.If 7th divsion of the natal chart is

for progeny,9th division is meant to delineate the issues of living togther and

strength of relationship of both the people involved for marraige purpose.Also

Rasyanavamsa .sudarshan chakra are also often referred along with sarvatobhadra

chakra for a detailed study of the natal chart.The life of a person through

divisional chart is only to seek

confirmation of the understanding of the natal chart.Infact Navasa analysis as

per Manasagari,Saravali.Brihad yavana Jataka and Nakshtra Chudmanai too emphsise

the need to apply navamsa for a total understanding of the jatak..Classification

of Navamsa as Dhatu,Moola and Jeeva are inter aspecting having relevance to

assess fortunes of an Individal on various aspects.of this grihastha or the

follow up of marraige needs a special effort aprt from implications of 7th H,7th

lord,2nd H 2nd lord and any connectivity 5th,10th houses or 12th or 8th.Natal

Chart might be a potential means but other aspects with reference strngth of

house,planets.dasa lords and their dynamic relationships need detailed review

before any body infers good or bad of the treends/indications.I for one take the

support for over all assesssment from navamsa for any aspect of life.

Taking the aid of divisional charts mainly Navamsa is a debatable issue.Several

authors,teachers in Astrology and others opined  that navamsa of all the

shadvargas or shodas vargas has it's own  and unique importance with reference

to Navamsa lagna as well as placement of plants.Planets at birth if in good or

bad state,may not be the same as the individual progresses and each house/bhava

reveals the trend along with lords.These divisional charts mainly Navamsa for

finding out a spouse nature and their relationship require attantion and

analysis.

 

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services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

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--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya

Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

jyotish-vidya

Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:20 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Nilesh,

 

 

 

///I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more

important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members

think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya

..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round///

 

 

 

It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV express

the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main " Articles "

page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm

 

 

 

My own view in regards to navamsha and other vargas is that they should not be

viewed as separate (stand alone) charts with bhava lordship/occupancy etc as

they're simply divisions of the natal chart itself. In regards to bhavas (in

vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in

natal chart) we would read it in that way.

 

 

 

As an example, my dasa lord Mercury, in exaltation in 9th (grandchildren) with

no malefic aspect, should indicate all-round good results, whereas the reality

is quite different. Looking at saptamsha I find Mercury occupies sign of

Gemini...6th dusthana bhava in natal chart. This definitely reflects the

situation with grandchildren during this mahadasa more accurately. Sub-dasas

would also be looked at in this way.

 

 

 

If lagna or any graha is vargottama it's dignity in natal chart is reinforced

i.e. an exalted graha gains in benefic status, whereas a debilitated graha is

doubly afflicted etc..

 

 

 

Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable

divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.

 

 

 

Perhaps members might consider the vargas in this way (as related to their

charts) and put forward their own experience.

 

 

 

Best Wishes,

 

Mrs. Wendy

 

http://JyotishVidya .com

 

 

 

============ ========= =====

 

 

 

nilesh joshi

 

Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:54 PM

 

jyotish-vidya

 

Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

 

 

 

Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go

through it again.

 

 

 

Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well.

 

 

 

As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective -

 

 

 

I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important

than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about

the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa.

htm)- it mentions the other way round

 

 

 

I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal

chart) in the navamsa.

 

 

 

Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

 

 

 

Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought.

 

 

 

Warm Regards

 

 

 

Nilesh

 

 

 

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Dear VK,

 

If I may take a few moments to add to your thoughts.

 

As I have learned, Rasi is the foundation of existence, its root and base for

the " Fruit " of effects of Navamsha. Each needs each other but, the foundation

has noting if there is not the ripen fruit to put forward. Therefore, Navamsha

becomes important in delineation of explanation. However, Navamsha has no bases

to give fruit if not for the foundation of the Rasi which gives a foundation of

existence and accurately the predictions of events.

 

This is what I have learned. It does not mean it is dogmatic and I would like

other learned members to comment. Also, it does not explain the relationship of

Rasi vs the other Vargas.

 

Often the Navamsha is taken only for the spouse. While others only use the

Navamsha and not the Rasi. and, others use both. My understanding is the

Navamsha as well as other Vargas are not aspected.

 

However, Melissa has put forth an interesting question and further investigation

is needed as well as accurate documentation to the reality of how to use charts.

In addition to other learned members opinions and facts.

 

It is also my understanding as I have explained in another post, that aspects

are counted forward and not backwards. Therefore. if Jupiter were in Pisces

persay, then it would aspect the 5th from self being Cancer, the seventh from

self being Virgo and the 9th from self being Scorpio. Only.

 

I look forward to Melissa's documentation to explain further her hypothesis as

well as her facts garnered.

 

As always,

 

Uttara

 

 

jyotish-vidya , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Mrs Wendy,Nilesh Ji and others,Navamsa being the nineth divison has also

link to bhagya( seen through 9H in the natal chart)In some context after

attaining the age of maturity and in adult stage,the need for spouse termed as

Dharma Patni joins the life as an ardhangi.Ardhangi is a term representing

fifty/half of the body.marraigae given lot of importance from the point of view

of bhagya of a native.So also wife is bhagya devata.navamsa is beleived to give

indications relating to spouse,his/her personality,relationships and the

cooperation along with mutuality of life.If 7th divsion of the natal chart is

for progeny,9th division is meant to delineate the issues of living togther and

strength of relationship of both the people involved for marraige purpose.Also

Rasyanavamsa .sudarshan chakra are also often referred along with sarvatobhadra

chakra for a detailed study of the natal chart.The life of a person through

divisional chart is only to seek

> confirmation of the understanding of the natal chart.Infact Navasa analysis

as per Manasagari,Saravali.Brihad yavana Jataka and Nakshtra Chudmanai too

emphsise the need to apply navamsa for a total understanding of the

jatak..Classification of Navamsa as Dhatu,Moola and Jeeva are inter aspecting

having relevance to assess fortunes of an Individal on various aspects.of this

grihastha or the follow up of marraige needs a special effort aprt from

implications of 7th H,7th lord,2nd H 2nd lord and any connectivity 5th,10th

houses or 12th or 8th.Natal Chart might be a potential means but other aspects

with reference strngth of house,planets.dasa lords and their dynamic

relationships need detailed review before any body infers good or bad of the

treends/indications.I for one take the support for over all assesssment from

navamsa for any aspect of life.

> Taking the aid of divisional charts mainly Navamsa is a debatable

issue.Several authors,teachers in Astrology and others opined  that navamsa of

all the shadvargas or shodas vargas has it's own  and unique importance with

reference to Navamsa lagna as well as placement of plants.Planets at birth if in

good or bad state,may not be the same as the individual progresses and each

house/bhava reveals the trend along with lords.These divisional charts mainly

Navamsa for finding out a spouse nature and their relationship require attantion

and analysis.

>

> Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

>

> --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya

> Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

> jyotish-vidya

> Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:20 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

>

>

>

Dear Nilesh,

>

>

>

> ///I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more

important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members

think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya

..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round///

>

>

>

> It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV

express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main

" Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm

>

>

>

> My own view in regards to navamsha and other vargas is that they should not be

viewed as separate (stand alone) charts with bhava lordship/occupancy etc as

they're simply divisions of the natal chart itself. In regards to bhavas (in

vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in

natal chart) we would read it in that way.

>

>

>

> As an example, my dasa lord Mercury, in exaltation in 9th (grandchildren) with

no malefic aspect, should indicate all-round good results, whereas the reality

is quite different. Looking at saptamsha I find Mercury occupies sign of

Gemini...6th dusthana bhava in natal chart. This definitely reflects the

situation with grandchildren during this mahadasa more accurately. Sub-dasas

would also be looked at in this way.

>

>

>

> If lagna or any graha is vargottama it's dignity in natal chart is reinforced

i.e. an exalted graha gains in benefic status, whereas a debilitated graha is

doubly afflicted etc..

>

>

>

> Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable

divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.

>

>

>

> Perhaps members might consider the vargas in this way (as related to their

charts) and put forward their own experience.

>

>

>

> Best Wishes,

>

> Mrs. Wendy

>

> http://JyotishVidya .com

>

>

>

> ============ ========= =====

>

>

>

> nilesh joshi

>

> Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:54 PM

>

> jyotish-vidya

>

> Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

>

>

>

> Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go

through it again.

>

>

>

> Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well.

>

>

>

> As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective -

>

>

>

> I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more

important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members

think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya

..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round

>

>

>

> I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the

natal chart) in the navamsa.

>

>

>

> Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

>

>

>

> Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought.

>

>

>

> Warm Regards

>

>

>

> Nilesh

>

>

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Dear Mrs Melissa,Mrs Wendy.Nilesh and others,I have the notabale horoscopes as

well his other book Three Hundred Important combinations of late B.V.Raman.Also

his book Hindu predictive Astrology.In his books,Raman emphsises the strength of

hosue and plane when seen through divisional charts may increase or decrease the

strengths and aspects of planets as lord of houses in natal chart.For ex jupiter

in cancer,if in navamsa goes to capricotn it gets debilitated.Like wise strength

of navamsa lagna is either strengthened by vargottama or by aspects.Shil Pande

while referring to navamsha chart infers " aids in strengthening the moral fibre

of individual:The issue of aspects in main chart as well as navamsa harmonises

the various issues for a balanced judgements of astrological chart. 

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya

Re: Re: Using Navamsa for Marriage Predictions

jyotish-vidya

Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 7:14 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Melissa,

 

 

 

As some members (myself included) may not have this particular book you refer

to, it would be helpful if you could provide the data for these charts so we

could take a look at them.

 

 

 

Best Wishes,

 

Mrs. Wendy

 

http://JyotishVidya .com

 

 

 

============ ========= ==

 

 

 

Melissa Grove

 

Wednesday, 27 January 2010 4:16 AM

 

jyotish-vidya

 

Re: Using Navamsa for Marriage Predictions

 

 

 

Nilesh ji & members,

 

 

 

This is my first posting so I hope I will be forgiven if I transgress any of the

group's established etiquette.

 

 

 

Respectfully, I address the third point of Nilesh ji: -

 

 

 

> Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

 

 

 

The astrologer B.V. Raman applies dristi rules to the navamsa. Examples abound

in 'Notable Horoscopes'. On page 55 we are told that Jupiter aspects Lagna in

navamsa. Jupiter is in Capricorn in the example chart being discussed, with

Lagna in Taurus, so the aspect from Jupiter is 5th aspect.

 

 

 

On page 56 it is stated that the navamsa Lagna is under the influence of several

planets " especially Jupiter and Kethu " - this is by 5th aspect. Mars aspects

Lagna by 4th aspect.

 

 

 

On page 62 B.V. Raman explains that Saturn aspects Sun in navamsa (in the chart

he is examining). We see that Saturn is in Libra and Sun in Sagittarius, so

Saturn aspects by his 3rd aspect.

 

 

 

On page 80: " In the navamsa Venus is considerably afflicted. " In this chart,

Venus in navamsa is associated with Mars but suffers also the 10th aspect of

Saturn and the 9th aspect of Rahu. The association of Mars alone would not make

Venus " considerably afflicted " .

 

 

 

On page 96: " In navamsa, again, the divine planet Jupiter with Mokshakaraka

Kethu is in the 10th (Karmasthana) aspected by Saturn. " Jupiter and Ketu are in

Taurus, Saturn is in Pisces, thus Saturn aspects Jupiter and Ketu by his 3rd

aspect.

 

 

 

There are many other examples in this book and in other writings of B.V. Raman.

 

 

 

Warm regards,

 

 

 

Melissa

 

 

 

~~~~~~~

 

Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go

through it again.

 

 

 

Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well.

 

 

 

As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective -

 

 

 

I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more

 

important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned

 

members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below

(http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round

 

 

 

I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal

chart) in the navamsa.

 

 

 

Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

 

 

 

Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought.

 

 

 

Warm Regards

 

 

 

Nilesh

 

 

 

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ADDED NOTE: I promise I am resting. I rest and then I type just a few, many

hours a part. I really am unable to do anything else. But, just enough exercise

to keep my arm and hands moving so they don't stiffen from the surgery and

stitiches at the axilla chest wall. :-)

 

I'm off for the evening.

 

As always,

 

Uttara

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Uttara " <muttaraphalguni wrote:

>

> Dear VK,

>

> If I may take a few moments to add to your thoughts.

>

> As I have learned, Rasi is the foundation of existence, its root and base for

the " Fruit " of effects of Navamsha. Each needs each other but, the foundation

has noting if there is not the ripen fruit to put forward. Therefore, Navamsha

becomes important in delineation of explanation. However, Navamsha has no bases

to give fruit if not for the foundation of the Rasi which gives a foundation of

existence and accurately the predictions of events.

>

> This is what I have learned. It does not mean it is dogmatic and I would like

other learned members to comment. Also, it does not explain the relationship of

Rasi vs the other Vargas.

>

> Often the Navamsha is taken only for the spouse. While others only use the

Navamsha and not the Rasi. and, others use both. My understanding is the

Navamsha as well as other Vargas are not aspected.

>

> However, Melissa has put forth an interesting question and further

investigation is needed as well as accurate documentation to the reality of how

to use charts. In addition to other learned members opinions and facts.

>

> It is also my understanding as I have explained in another post, that aspects

are counted forward and not backwards. Therefore. if Jupiter were in Pisces

persay, then it would aspect the 5th from self being Cancer, the seventh from

self being Virgo and the 9th from self being Scorpio. Only.

>

> I look forward to Melissa's documentation to explain further her hypothesis as

well as her facts garnered.

>

> As always,

>

> Uttara

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mrs Wendy,Nilesh Ji and others,Navamsa being the nineth divison has

also link to bhagya( seen through 9H in the natal chart)In some context after

attaining the age of maturity and in adult stage,the need for spouse termed as

Dharma Patni joins the life as an ardhangi.Ardhangi is a term representing

fifty/half of the body.marraigae given lot of importance from the point of view

of bhagya of a native.So also wife is bhagya devata.navamsa is beleived to give

indications relating to spouse,his/her personality,relationships and the

cooperation along with mutuality of life.If 7th divsion of the natal chart is

for progeny,9th division is meant to delineate the issues of living togther and

strength of relationship of both the people involved for marraige purpose.Also

Rasyanavamsa .sudarshan chakra are also often referred along with sarvatobhadra

chakra for a detailed study of the natal chart.The life of a person through

divisional chart is only to seek

> > confirmation of the understanding of the natal chart.Infact Navasa analysis

as per Manasagari,Saravali.Brihad yavana Jataka and Nakshtra Chudmanai too

emphsise the need to apply navamsa for a total understanding of the

jatak..Classification of Navamsa as Dhatu,Moola and Jeeva are inter aspecting

having relevance to assess fortunes of an Individal on various aspects.of this

grihastha or the follow up of marraige needs a special effort aprt from

implications of 7th H,7th lord,2nd H 2nd lord and any connectivity 5th,10th

houses or 12th or 8th.Natal Chart might be a potential means but other aspects

with reference strngth of house,planets.dasa lords and their dynamic

relationships need detailed review before any body infers good or bad of the

treends/indications.I for one take the support for over all assesssment from

navamsa for any aspect of life.

> > Taking the aid of divisional charts mainly Navamsa is a debatable

issue.Several authors,teachers in Astrology and others opined  that navamsa of

all the shadvargas or shodas vargas has it's own  and unique importance with

reference to Navamsa lagna as well as placement of plants.Planets at birth if in

good or bad state,may not be the same as the individual progresses and each

house/bhava reveals the trend along with lords.These divisional charts mainly

Navamsa for finding out a spouse nature and their relationship require attantion

and analysis.

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

> >

> > --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@> wrote:

> >

> > Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya@>

> > Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

> > jyotish-vidya

> > Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:20 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Nilesh,

> >

> >

> >

> > ///I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more

important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members

think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya

..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round///

> >

> >

> >

> > It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV

express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main

" Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm

> >

> >

> >

> > My own view in regards to navamsha and other vargas is that they should not

be viewed as separate (stand alone) charts with bhava lordship/occupancy etc as

they're simply divisions of the natal chart itself. In regards to bhavas (in

vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in

natal chart) we would read it in that way.

> >

> >

> >

> > As an example, my dasa lord Mercury, in exaltation in 9th (grandchildren)

with no malefic aspect, should indicate all-round good results, whereas the

reality is quite different. Looking at saptamsha I find Mercury occupies sign of

Gemini...6th dusthana bhava in natal chart. This definitely reflects the

situation with grandchildren during this mahadasa more accurately. Sub-dasas

would also be looked at in this way.

> >

> >

> >

> > If lagna or any graha is vargottama it's dignity in natal chart is

reinforced i.e. an exalted graha gains in benefic status, whereas a debilitated

graha is doubly afflicted etc..

> >

> >

> >

> > Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable

divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.

> >

> >

> >

> > Perhaps members might consider the vargas in this way (as related to their

charts) and put forward their own experience.

> >

> >

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> >

> > Mrs. Wendy

> >

> > http://JyotishVidya .com

> >

> >

> >

> > ============ ========= =====

> >

> >

> >

> > nilesh joshi

> >

> > Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:54 PM

> >

> > jyotish-vidya

> >

> > Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to

go through it again.

> >

> >

> >

> > Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well.

> >

> >

> >

> > As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective -

> >

> >

> >

> > I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more

important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members

think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya

..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round

> >

> >

> >

> > I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the

natal chart) in the navamsa.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

> >

> >

> >

> > Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought.

> >

> >

> >

> > Warm Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > Nilesh

> >

> >

> >

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Learned members,

 

Dr B.V. Raman writes the following in his book Notable Horoscopes in page No.247

while analyzing the chart of Albert Einstein – birth details he used: - Born on

14th March 1879 at 11:30 am – LMT- Lat 48N24 and Long 10E00.

 

Quote:

 

Rahu, despite his incendiary nature, is aspected (in the Navamsa) by Mercury

(karaka for intellect) and Jupiter (karaka for wisdom). Rahu Dasa commenced in

1937 and lasted till January 1955. It was during Rahu – due to his peculiar

disposition - that Einstein went on thinking, speculating and braiding together

not only some strands of experience, time with space, mass with energy,

gravitation with space time but to braid together the whole of our physical

experience in a single theory and look for unit in all nature. Rahu gave him

success. But because Rahu is in the 8th with planet of destruction, Mars,

Einstein who at 26 had for the first time equated mass with energy now saw the

equation threaten the world. Einstein's death took place as soon as Jupiter Dasa

commenced. It will be seen that Jupiter is a maraka as he is lord of the 7th

and is in the constellation of Rahu.

 

Unquote:

 

Ravindramani writes:

 

I have the copies of almost all the books written by Dr. B.V. Raman. What I

understand is that Dr. B.V. Raman considered the planetary aspects in Navamsa

chart. Further I understand that he was of the view that nodes are aspected by

other planets.

 

I am not asking anybody here to follow what Raman says. I just bring to your

notice that how he analyses a chart and and to show how different astrologers

use the Navamsa chart. Perhaps he could have used his own ayanamsa. If you use

Lahiri, planetary positions in different vargas would change.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

>Dear Melissa,

> As some members (myself included) may not have this particular book you refer

to, it would be helpful if you could provide the data for these charts so we

could take a look at them.

 

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

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Dear ones,

I would like to analyze my own chart about marriage/no marriage through

navamsa aswell.My opinion is without consulting navamsa one should not

predict.

7H is aspd by mer1,10;sun12 and mars3,8.(no marriage)

7L in 10th asp by moon11 mutually(gaja kesari)

7L dispositor is also mer in PKY(PAPAKARTARI)in Lagna.(no marriage)

7L in the naksatra of mars3,8 in12th.(no marriage)or death of spuse.

NAVAMSA

7H is in RK axis with ketu while 7L Mer is deb in lagna with ven and

Rahu(no marriage/possible marriage)

7L of Rasi jup in exch with ven 8L of amsa.(no marriage)

.....Do.. jup conjuncts exal and vargottama sat in 8th.(no marriage)

What Rasi chart is showing Navamsa is confirming.

till date i am not married.I am 56yrs.Birth data for

reference.17-9-1953;guntur(india)@6.35am.Virgo lagna,moola naks3p.

Regards,

gopi.

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> Dear Nilesh,

>

> ///I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is

more important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do

learned members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (.

http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way

round///

>

> It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on

JV express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to

the main " Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya.com/articles.htm

>

> My own view in regards to navamsha and other vargas is that they

should not be viewed as separate (stand alone) charts with bhava

lordship/occupancy etc as they're simply divisions of the natal chart

itself. In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a

planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would

read it in that way.

>

> As an example, my dasa lord Mercury, in exaltation in 9th

(grandchildren) with no malefic aspect, should indicate all-round good

results, whereas the reality is quite different. Looking at saptamsha I

find Mercury occupies sign of Gemini...6th dusthana bhava in natal

chart. This definitely reflects the situation with grandchildren during

this mahadasa more accurately. Sub-dasas would also be looked at in this

way.

>

> If lagna or any graha is vargottama it's dignity in natal chart is

reinforced i.e. an exalted graha gains in benefic status, whereas a

debilitated graha is doubly afflicted etc..

>

> Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas

unfavorable divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.

>

> Perhaps members might consider the vargas in this way (as related to

their charts) and put forward their own experience.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

>

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> nilesh joshi

> Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:54 PM

> jyotish-vidya

> Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage

predictions

>

>

>

> Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back -

good to go through it again.

>

> Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well.

>

> As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective -

>

> I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more

important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned

members think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (.

http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round

>

> I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of

the natal chart) in the navamsa.

>

> Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

>

> Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought.

>

> Warm Regards

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Dear Ravindramani,

 

///Quote:

Rahu, despite his incendiary nature, is aspected (in the Navamsa) by Mercury

(karaka for intellect) and Jupiter (karaka for wisdom).///

 

I, personally, would look more closely at the natal chart in conjunction with

dasamsha (D10) in regards to such success/status. In dasamsha Rahu occupies

Sagittarius whilst natal Rahu's dispositor Saturn (dispositor also of Jupiter)

is closely conjunct lagnesh Mercury.

 

///Quote:

It was during Rahu - due to his peculiar disposition - that Einstein went on

thinking, speculating and braiding together not only some strands of experience,

time with space, mass with energy, gravitation with space time but to braid

together the whole of our physical experience in a single theory and look for

unit in all nature. Rahu gave him success.///

 

In actual fact Einstein's painstaking labors were unsuccessful in establishing a

single theory for everything. The theory of everything (unified field) remains a

controversial topic amongst physicists to this today. But that's by-the-by I

suppose as, no doubt, he was a genius mathematician.

 

I read a quote recently that impressed me:

**Einstein's gifts inevitably resulted in his dwelling much in intellectual

solitude**

 

Note Moon isolated in chart in nakshatra of Mercury who is closely conjunct

Saturn (the planet of solitude). As we know, any relationship between Moon and

Mercury (son of Moon), indicates a strong intellectual nature.

 

///I have the copies of almost all the books written by Dr. B.V. Raman. What I

understand is that Dr. B.V. Raman considered the planetary aspects in Navamsa

chart. Further I understand that he was of the view that nodes are aspected by

other planets.///

 

I have only one of his books (Three Hundred Important Combinations) which I

think some kind person gave to me? As for his views on aspects...put quite

simply; these are HIS views! Mine differ from this, as you know.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

 

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ravindramani

Wednesday, 27 January 2010 12:20 PM

jyotish-vidya

Re: Using Navamsa for Marriage Predictions

 

 

 

Learned members,

 

Dr B.V. Raman writes the following in his book Notable Horoscopes in page No.247

while analyzing the chart of Albert Einstein - birth details he used: - Born on

14th March 1879 at 11:30 am - LMT- Lat 48N24 and Long 10E00.

 

Quote:

 

Rahu, despite his incendiary nature, is aspected (in the Navamsa) by Mercury

(karaka for intellect) and Jupiter (karaka for wisdom). Rahu Dasa commenced in

1937 and lasted till January 1955. It was during Rahu - due to his peculiar

disposition - that Einstein went on thinking, speculating and braiding together

not only some strands of experience, time with space, mass with energy,

gravitation with space time but to braid together the whole of our physical

experience in a single theory and look for unit in all nature. Rahu gave him

success. But because Rahu is in the 8th with planet of destruction, Mars,

Einstein who at 26 had for the first time equated mass with energy now saw the

equation threaten the world. Einstein's death took place as soon as Jupiter Dasa

commenced. It will be seen that Jupiter is a maraka as he is lord of the 7th and

is in the constellation of Rahu.

 

Unquote:

 

Ravindramani writes:

 

I have the copies of almost all the books written by Dr. B.V. Raman. What I

understand is that Dr. B.V. Raman considered the planetary aspects in Navamsa

chart. Further I understand that he was of the view that nodes are aspected by

other planets.

 

I am not asking anybody here to follow what Raman says. I just bring to your

notice that how he analyses a chart and and to show how different astrologers

use the Navamsa chart. Perhaps he could have used his own ayanamsa. If you use

Lahiri, planetary positions in different vargas would change.

 

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

 

>Dear Melissa,

> As some members (myself included) may not have this particular book you refer

to, it would be helpful if you could provide the data for these charts so we

could take a look at them.

 

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya .com

 

 

 

 

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Dear Gopi,

 

In my view, 7th lord's dispositor (Mercury) is conjunct 12th lord Sun whilst

Venus conjuncts Ketu. These conditions together in a chart can deny marriage.

Furthermore Mars, in nakshatra of Ketu in 12th, is 7th lord's nakshatra lord.

 

In navamsha:

7th lord Jupiter occupies sign of Libra which holds Saturn, planet of denial.

Saturn himself occupies nakshatra of 8th dusthana lord Mars who aspects 7th from

12th dusthana. Yuvatikaraka Venus occupies Pisces navamsha whilst 7th lord

Jupiter (Rasi) is denying marriage as seen in delineation above.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

 

========================

 

 

gopalakrishna

Wednesday, 27 January 2010 1:24 PM

jyotish-vidya

Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

 

 

 

Dear ones,

I would like to analyze my own chart about marriage/no marriage through

navamsa aswell.My opinion is without consulting navamsa one should not

predict.

7H is aspd by mer1,10;sun12 and mars3,8.(no marriage)

7L in 10th asp by moon11 mutually(gaja kesari)

7L dispositor is also mer in PKY(PAPAKARTARI)in Lagna.(no marriage)

7L in the naksatra of mars3,8 in12th.(no marriage)or death of spuse.

NAVAMSA

7H is in RK axis with ketu while 7L Mer is deb in lagna with ven and

Rahu(no marriage/possible marriage)

7L of Rasi jup in exch with ven 8L of amsa.(no marriage)

.....Do.. jup conjuncts exal and vargottama sat in 8th.(no marriage)

What Rasi chart is showing Navamsa is confirming.

till date i am not married.I am 56yrs.Birth data for

reference.17-9-1953;guntur(india)@6.35am.Virgo lagna,moola naks3p.

Regards,

gopi.

 

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Dear Shri Gopi,Mrs Wendy and others

A chart of great relavence for several aspects of like.Karak for marraige venus

in watery sign with ketu in lagna and helps a lot to understand jyotish

principles in more than one way.Thanx to Shri Gopi

Probably navamsa situation comes secondary to find reasons.Lagna itself is dual

and the dasas sequence was not conducive

This is an instance of early marraige but nodes playing their role have burned

other issues effecting kutumba bhava,2nd House.

...First and foremost both lagnas r duel in nature.navamsa lagna being jal

rasi,the strength of lagna in this persoective was not strong enough.

The dasa sequence wasnot promoting the efforts.The chances/opportunity that hace

come and could have been decided till dec 6th 2006 when jupiter was in scorpio

and libra in gochara have not been capitalised.

yet the Rahu/Ve/Rahu,Venus and jupiter are potentially good with Cancer in

mercury ruled nakshtra(Aslesh4th) and with Ketu in 11th happened to be exalted

in meena navamsa with lagna lord in debilitation.Astrologically exalted mercury

happened to be in debilitation navamsa lagna and with ketu plays the role of

spoiler.

jupiter is darakarak in 10th from lagna,a dual sign in mrigasira nakshtra.In

navamsa with exalted and rasi vargottama jupiter.

2.saturn in kutumba bhava ,2nd from lagna also frustates the eforts.AS exalted

lord of 5th and 6th all initiatives remained insignificant

 

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services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Wed, 1/27/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya

Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

jyotish-vidya

Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 1:40 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gopi,

 

 

 

In my view, 7th lord's dispositor (Mercury) is conjunct 12th lord Sun whilst

Venus conjuncts Ketu. These conditions together in a chart can deny marriage.

Furthermore Mars, in nakshatra of Ketu in 12th, is 7th lord's nakshatra lord.

 

 

 

In navamsha:

 

7th lord Jupiter occupies sign of Libra which holds Saturn, planet of denial.

Saturn himself occupies nakshatra of 8th dusthana lord Mars who aspects 7th from

12th dusthana. Yuvatikaraka Venus occupies Pisces navamsha whilst 7th lord

Jupiter (Rasi) is denying marriage as seen in delineation above..

 

 

 

Best Wishes,

 

Mrs. Wendy

 

http://JyotishVidya .com

 

 

 

============ ========= ===

 

 

 

gopalakrishna

 

Wednesday, 27 January 2010 1:24 PM

 

jyotish-vidya

 

Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

 

 

 

Dear ones,

 

I would like to analyze my own chart about marriage/no marriage through

 

navamsa aswell.My opinion is without consulting navamsa one should not

 

predict.

 

7H is aspd by mer1,10;sun12 and mars3,8.(no marriage)

 

7L in 10th asp by moon11 mutually(gaja kesari)

 

7L dispositor is also mer in PKY(PAPAKARTARI) in Lagna.(no marriage)

 

7L in the naksatra of mars3,8 in12th.(no marriage)or death of spuse.

 

NAVAMSA

 

7H is in RK axis with ketu while 7L Mer is deb in lagna with ven and

 

Rahu(no marriage/possible marriage)

 

7L of Rasi jup in exch with ven 8L of amsa.(no marriage)

 

.....Do.. jup conjuncts exal and vargottama sat in 8th.(no marriage)

 

What Rasi chart is showing Navamsa is confirming.

 

till date i am not married.I am 56yrs.Birth data for

 

reference.17- 9-1953;guntur( india)@6. 35am.Virgo lagna,moola naks3p.

 

Regards,

 

gopi.

 

 

 

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Dear Mrs Wendy,

yes its true but i was limiting myself to 7th house/7th lord and Navamsa

only.....

Warm regards,

gopi.

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wrote:

>

> Dear Gopi,

>

> In my view, 7th lord's dispositor (Mercury) is conjunct 12th lord Sun

whilst Venus conjuncts Ketu. These conditions together in a chart can

deny marriage. Furthermore Mars, in nakshatra of Ketu in 12th, is 7th

lord's nakshatra lord.

>

> In navamsha:

> 7th lord Jupiter occupies sign of Libra which holds Saturn, planet of

denial. Saturn himself occupies nakshatra of 8th dusthana lord Mars who

aspects 7th from 12th dusthana. Yuvatikaraka Venus occupies Pisces

navamsha whilst 7th lord Jupiter (Rasi) is denying marriage as seen in

delineation above.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

>

> ========================

>

>

> gopalakrishna

> Wednesday, 27 January 2010 1:24 PM

> jyotish-vidya

> Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

>

>

>

> Dear ones,

> I would like to analyze my own chart about marriage/no marriage

through

> navamsa aswell.My opinion is without consulting navamsa one should not

> predict.

> 7H is aspd by mer1,10;sun12 and mars3,8.(no marriage)

> 7L in 10th asp by moon11 mutually(gaja kesari)

> 7L dispositor is also mer in PKY(PAPAKARTARI)in Lagna.(no marriage)

> 7L in the naksatra of mars3,8 in12th.(no marriage)or death of spuse.

> NAVAMSA

> 7H is in RK axis with ketu while 7L Mer is deb in lagna with ven and

> Rahu(no marriage/possible marriage)

> 7L of Rasi jup in exch with ven 8L of amsa.(no marriage)

> ....Do.. jup conjuncts exal and vargottama sat in 8th.(no marriage)

> What Rasi chart is showing Navamsa is confirming.

> till date i am not married.I am 56yrs.Birth data for

> reference.17-9-1953;guntur(india)@6.35am.Virgo lagna,moola naks3p.

> Regards,

> gopi.

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Dear Mrs Wendy,

Even Dasa too played it's part as the sequence followed indicated.

 

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--- On Wed, 1/27/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya

Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

jyotish-vidya

Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 1:40 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gopi,

 

 

 

In my view, 7th lord's dispositor (Mercury) is conjunct 12th lord Sun whilst

Venus conjuncts Ketu. These conditions together in a chart can deny marriage.

Furthermore Mars, in nakshatra of Ketu in 12th, is 7th lord's nakshatra lord.

 

 

 

In navamsha:

 

7th lord Jupiter occupies sign of Libra which holds Saturn, planet of denial.

Saturn himself occupies nakshatra of 8th dusthana lord Mars who aspects 7th from

12th dusthana. Yuvatikaraka Venus occupies Pisces navamsha whilst 7th lord

Jupiter (Rasi) is denying marriage as seen in delineation above..

 

 

 

Best Wishes,

 

Mrs. Wendy

 

http://JyotishVidya .com

 

 

 

============ ========= ===

 

 

 

gopalakrishna

 

Wednesday, 27 January 2010 1:24 PM

 

jyotish-vidya

 

Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

 

 

 

Dear ones,

 

I would like to analyze my own chart about marriage/no marriage through

 

navamsa aswell.My opinion is without consulting navamsa one should not

 

predict.

 

7H is aspd by mer1,10;sun12 and mars3,8.(no marriage)

 

7L in 10th asp by moon11 mutually(gaja kesari)

 

7L dispositor is also mer in PKY(PAPAKARTARI) in Lagna.(no marriage)

 

7L in the naksatra of mars3,8 in12th.(no marriage)or death of spuse.

 

NAVAMSA

 

7H is in RK axis with ketu while 7L Mer is deb in lagna with ven and

 

Rahu(no marriage/possible marriage)

 

7L of Rasi jup in exch with ven 8L of amsa.(no marriage)

 

.....Do.. jup conjuncts exal and vargottama sat in 8th.(no marriage)

 

What Rasi chart is showing Navamsa is confirming.

 

till date i am not married.I am 56yrs.Birth data for

 

reference.17- 9-1953;guntur( india)@6. 35am.Virgo lagna,moola naks3p.

 

Regards,

 

gopi.

 

 

 

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Dear Shri Krishnan ji,

thanks for your validation and effort.

//.saturn in kutumba bhava ,2nd from lagna also frustates the eforts.AS

exalted

lord of 5th and 6th all initiatives remained insignificant//

there were no efforts from my side since there is no inclination as such

as i was spiritually inclined very early in life and decided not to get

married at all.5L of spiritual practices is exalted and vargottama aspd

by jup and 9L ven is with ketu also asp by sat along with dispositor

moon in 4H of moksha(trikona).I also find Mo asp by both jup and sat had

given me the mental strength to withstand natural pangs for sex.......I

am the eldest sibling aswell.

Love and regards,

gopi.

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wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Gopi,Mrs Wendy and others

> A chart of great relavence for several aspects of like.Karak for

marraige venus in watery sign with ketu in lagna and helps a lot to

understand jyotish principles in more than one way.Thanx to Shri Gopi

> Probably navamsa situation comes secondary to find reasons.Lagna

itself is dual and the dasas sequence was not conducive

> This is an instance of early marraige but nodes playing their role

have burned other issues effecting kutumba bhava,2nd House.

> ..First and foremost both lagnas r duel in nature.navamsa lagna being

jal rasi,the strength of lagna in this persoective was not strong

enough.

> The dasa sequence wasnot promoting the efforts.The chances/opportunity

that hace come and could have been decided till dec 6th 2006 when

jupiter was in scorpio and libra in gochara have not been capitalised.

> yet the Rahu/Ve/Rahu,Venus and jupiter are potentially good with

Cancer in mercury ruled nakshtra(Aslesh4th) and with Ketu in 11th

happened to be exalted in meena navamsa with lagna lord in

debilitation.Astrologically exalted mercury happened to be in

debilitation navamsa lagna and with ketu plays the role of spoiler.

> jupiter is darakarak in 10th from lagna,a dual sign in mrigasira

nakshtra.In navamsa with exalted and rasi vargottama jupiter.

> 2.saturn in kutumba bhava ,2nd from lagna also frustates the eforts.AS

exalted lord of 5th and 6th all initiatives remained insignificant

>

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services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can

Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÂ

>

> --- On Wed, 1/27/10, Mrs. Wendy jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Mrs. Wendy jyotishvidya

> Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage

predictions

> jyotish-vidya

> Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 1:40 AM

>

Â

>

>

>

Dear Gopi,

>

>

>

> In my view, 7th lord's dispositor (Mercury) is conjunct 12th lord Sun

whilst Venus conjuncts Ketu. These conditions together in a chart can

deny marriage. Furthermore Mars, in nakshatra of Ketu in 12th, is 7th

lord's nakshatra lord.

>

>

>

> In navamsha:

>

> 7th lord Jupiter occupies sign of Libra which holds Saturn, planet of

denial. Saturn himself occupies nakshatra of 8th dusthana lord Mars who

aspects 7th from 12th dusthana. Yuvatikaraka Venus occupies Pisces

navamsha whilst 7th lord Jupiter (Rasi) is denying marriage as seen in

delineation above..

>

>

>

> Best Wishes,

>

> Mrs. Wendy

>

> http://JyotishVidya .com

>

>

>

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>

>

>

> gopalakrishna

>

> Wednesday, 27 January 2010 1:24 PM

>

> jyotish-vidya

>

> Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

>

>

>

> Dear ones,

>

> I would like to analyze my own chart about marriage/no marriage

through

>

> navamsa aswell.My opinion is without consulting navamsa one should not

>

> predict.

>

> 7H is aspd by mer1,10;sun12 and mars3,8.(no marriage)

>

> 7L in 10th asp by moon11 mutually(gaja kesari)

>

> 7L dispositor is also mer in PKY(PAPAKARTARI) in Lagna.(no marriage)

>

> 7L in the naksatra of mars3,8 in12th.(no marriage)or death of spuse.

>

> NAVAMSA

>

> 7H is in RK axis with ketu while 7L Mer is deb in lagna with ven and

>

> Rahu(no marriage/possible marriage)

>

> 7L of Rasi jup in exch with ven 8L of amsa.(no marriage)

>

> ....Do.. jup conjuncts exal and vargottama sat in 8th.(no marriage)

>

> What Rasi chart is showing Navamsa is confirming.

>

> till date i am not married.I am 56yrs.Birth data for

>

> reference.17- 9-1953;guntur( india)@6. 35am.Virgo lagna,moola naks3p.

>

> Regards,

>

> gopi.

>

>

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Dear Wendyji,

 

//It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV

express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main

" Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm//

 

I am aware of it - and it is a great thing thing to have these articles.

 

1.//In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a

sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way.//

 

2.//Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable

divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.//

 

I am not exactly able to understand it, can you please elaborate.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

 

 

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Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya

Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

jyotish-vidya

Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 7:50 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Nilesh,

 

///I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more

important than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members

think about the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya

..com/navamsa. htm)- it mentions the other way round///

 

It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV express

the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main " Articles "

page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm

 

My own view in regards to navamsha and other vargas is that they should not be

viewed as separate (stand alone) charts with bhava lordship/occupancy etc as

they're simply divisions of the natal chart itself. In regards to bhavas (in

vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a sign owned by a dusthana (in

natal chart) we would read it in that way.

 

As an example, my dasa lord Mercury, in exaltation in 9th (grandchildren) with

no malefic aspect, should indicate all-round good results, whereas the reality

is quite different. Looking at saptamsha I find Mercury occupies sign of

Gemini...6th dusthana bhava in natal chart. This definitely reflects the

situation with grandchildren during this mahadasa more accurately. Sub-dasas

would also be looked at in this way.

 

If lagna or any graha is vargottama it's dignity in natal chart is reinforced

i.e. an exalted graha gains in benefic status, whereas a debilitated graha is

doubly afflicted etc..

 

Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable

divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.

 

Perhaps members might consider the vargas in this way (as related to their

charts) and put forward their own experience.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya .com

 

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nilesh joshi

Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:54 PM

jyotish-vidya

Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

 

Thanks Uttara for your link. I had gone through it some time back - good to go

through it again.

 

Hope your health is fine and you are recovering well.

 

As regards the Navamsa from marriage perspective -

 

I feel that the 7th house and its lord in natal chart (rasi ) is more important

than the 7th house and lord of the navamsa. What do learned members think about

the priority mentioned. In the link below (. http://jyotishvidya .com/navamsa.

htm)- it mentions the other way round

 

I also feel it is important to know the position of the 7th lord ( of the natal

chart) in the navamsa.

 

Thirdly - I doubt whether we can use planets dristi rules to navamsa.

 

Wendyji,learned members would request for your thought.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

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Dear Nilesh,

 

I'm not too sure how to answer your question in a way that's clearer for you?

But I'll have a stab at it again..

 

1.//In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a

sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way.//

 

I think the example I gave was dasa lord Mercury (6th/9th lord) occupying sign

of Gemini in saptamsha (children/grandchildren). In rasi Gemini has manifested

as 6th dusthana bhava. Saturn, lord of 2nd house of family, occupies this house

in nakshatra of malefic Mars. Indicating difficulties, both for grandchildren

themselves and/or difficulties affecting our relationship itself. This is my

understanding of how the vargas are read in conjunction with rasi.

 

As you can see, the varga is not contradicting what is present in rasi. What it

does make clear is that, in regards to grandchildren, dasa lord Mercury's

ownership of 6th is the most dominant factor. My apologies, Nilesh, if I still

haven't expressed this clearly...

 

///2.//Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable

divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha./////

 

It will probably be best to point you to the chapter in BPHS that deals

specifically with this.

See the following link http://jyotishvidya.com/ch6.htm

 

**42-53. VARGA CLASSIFICATION:

Maitreya, explained now are the sum effects of classifications of different

divisions (or Vargas so far narrated). These are four kinds, viz. Shad Varga (6

divisions considered), Saptha Varga (7 divisions considered), Dasa Varga (10

divisions considered), and Shodasa Varga (all the 16 divisions considered).

In the Shadvarga classification, the Varga designations are Kimsuka, Vyanjana,

Chaamara, Chartra, and Kundalal according to a planet being in 2 to 6

combinations of good Vargas. Next is the Saptha Varga in which these

classifications continue in the same manner up to six combinations of good

Vargas, the 7th additional Varga getting classified as Mukuta.

In the dasa Varga scheme, the designations commence from Pasrijata, etc., such

as two good Vargas - Parijatha, 3. Uttama, 4. Gopura, 5. Simhasana, 6.

Paaravata, 7. Devaloka, 8. Brahmaloka, 9. Sakravahana, and 10. Vargas -

Sridhama.

In the Shodasa Varga Scheme the combinations of Vargas go with designations

thus: two good Vargas - Bhedaka, 3. Kusuma, 4. Nagapushpa, 5. Kanduka, 6.

Kerala, 7. Kalpavriksha, 8. Chandanan Vana, 9. Poornachandra, 10. Uchchaisrava,

11. Dhanvantari, 12. Suryakanta, 13. Vidruma, 14. Sakrasimhasana, 15. Goloka,

and 16. Vargas - Sri Vallabha.

In these divisions, the divisions falling in the planet's exaltation sign,

Moolatrikona sign, own sign, and the signs owned by the lord of an angle from

the Arudha ascendant are all to be considered (as good Vargas).

The divisions of a combust planet, defeated planet, weak planet, and a planet in

bad Avasthas like Sayana be all ignored to be auspicious, for these destroy the

good yogas.**

 

Hope this helps...

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

 

================================

 

 

nilesh joshi

Thursday, 28 January 2010 12:50 AM

jyotish-vidya

Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

 

 

 

Dear Wendyji,

 

//It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV

express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main

" Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm//

 

I am aware of it - and it is a great thing thing to have these articles.

 

1.//In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a

sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way.//

 

2.//Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable

divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.//

 

I am not exactly able to understand it, can you please elaborate.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

 

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Dear Wendyji,

 

I get it now. Had to read it twice and read chapter 6 too :)

I was confused with the meaning of vargas.

I think slowly age is catching upon me.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

--- On Thu, 28/1/10, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

 

Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya

Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

jyotish-vidya

Thursday, 28 January, 2010, 10:10 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Nilesh,

 

I'm not too sure how to answer your question in a way that's clearer for you?

But I'll have a stab at it again..

 

1.//In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a

sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way.//

 

I think the example I gave was dasa lord Mercury (6th/9th lord) occupying sign

of Gemini in saptamsha (children/grandchil dren). In rasi Gemini has manifested

as 6th dusthana bhava. Saturn, lord of 2nd house of family, occupies this house

in nakshatra of malefic Mars. Indicating difficulties, both for grandchildren

themselves and/or difficulties affecting our relationship itself. This is my

understanding of how the vargas are read in conjunction with rasi.

 

As you can see, the varga is not contradicting what is present in rasi. What it

does make clear is that, in regards to grandchildren, dasa lord Mercury's

ownership of 6th is the most dominant factor. My apologies, Nilesh, if I still

haven't expressed this clearly...

 

///2.//Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable

divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha./////

 

It will probably be best to point you to the chapter in BPHS that deals

specifically with this.

See the following link http://jyotishvidya .com/ch6. htm

 

**42-53. VARGA CLASSIFICATION:

Maitreya, explained now are the sum effects of classifications of different

divisions (or Vargas so far narrated). These are four kinds, viz. Shad Varga (6

divisions considered), Saptha Varga (7 divisions considered), Dasa Varga (10

divisions considered), and Shodasa Varga (all the 16 divisions considered).

In the Shadvarga classification, the Varga designations are Kimsuka, Vyanjana,

Chaamara, Chartra, and Kundalal according to a planet being in 2 to 6

combinations of good Vargas. Next is the Saptha Varga in which these

classifications continue in the same manner up to six combinations of good

Vargas, the 7th additional Varga getting classified as Mukuta.

In the dasa Varga scheme, the designations commence from Pasrijata, etc., such

as two good Vargas - Parijatha, 3. Uttama, 4. Gopura, 5. Simhasana, 6.

Paaravata, 7. Devaloka, 8. Brahmaloka, 9. Sakravahana, and 10. Vargas -

Sridhama.

In the Shodasa Varga Scheme the combinations of Vargas go with designations

thus: two good Vargas - Bhedaka, 3. Kusuma, 4. Nagapushpa, 5. Kanduka, 6.

Kerala, 7. Kalpavriksha, 8. Chandanan Vana, 9. Poornachandra, 10. Uchchaisrava,

11. Dhanvantari, 12. Suryakanta, 13. Vidruma, 14. Sakrasimhasana, 15. Goloka,

and 16. Vargas - Sri Vallabha.

In these divisions, the divisions falling in the planet's exaltation sign,

Moolatrikona sign, own sign, and the signs owned by the lord of an angle from

the Arudha ascendant are all to be considered (as good Vargas).

The divisions of a combust planet, defeated planet, weak planet, and a planet in

bad Avasthas like Sayana be all ignored to be auspicious, for these destroy the

good yogas.**

 

Hope this helps...

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya .com

 

============ ========= ========= ==

 

nilesh joshi

Thursday, 28 January 2010 12:50 AM

jyotish-vidya

Re: Re: Using Navamsa for marriage predictions

 

Dear Wendyji,

 

//It's important to note that the articles submitted for publication on JV

express the views of the author only. I've just added this note to the main

" Articles " page. http://jyotishvidya .com/articles. htm//

 

I am aware of it - and it is a great thing thing to have these articles.

 

1.//In regards to bhavas (in vargas) I hold the view that if a planet occupies a

sign owned by a dusthana (in natal chart) we would read it in that way.//

 

2.//Divisions in favorable vargas strengthen the grahas whereas unfavorable

divisions are adverse to the potency of the graha.//

 

I am not exactly able to understand it, can you please elaborate.

 

Warm Regards

 

Nilesh

 

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