Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Dear Group, Lalit's post regarding Ashlesha has sparked my interest...for reasons that should be obvious. As we know the symbol for Ashlesha is the serpent which is indeed associated with kundalini (itself symbolized as a serpent) which lies dormant, coiled at the base of the spine beneath the mooladhara chakra. If I'm not mistaken the term 'kundalini' is a Sanskrit word that means coiled up or 'coiled like a snake'...I stand corrected if in error here. So, in this respect I'm in agreement with Lalit. However, the blanket statement that "those who get Ashlesha in trikona (1,5,9) houses can have a drive for Kundalini's awakening" can be a bit misleading, as careful consideration of other factors is needed. Also, there can be no doubt that spontaneous kundalini arousal can happen whether or not the planet involved occupies a trikona...I have horoscopes that prove this! As Ashlesha is lorded by Mercury it is rightly concerned with intellect. Astrologer Manisha Rathore writes this: **Ruled by Mercury, the planet of intelligence, the symbol of Ashlesha is the serpent. They are youthful and charming in appearance. They have a penetrating insight and power to look deep inside people and understand their motivation or what goes on in their mind. They are very tactful and know how to win their opponents through tact.** However, common-sense tells us that the condition of nakshatra lord Mercury is of prime importance. Adolf Hitler had YogaKaraka Saturn, aspected by malefic Mars and poorly placed in 10th (great enemy), in nakshatra of Ashlesha, whilst nakshatra lord Mercury (also in house of enemy) was combust 11th lord Sun. No doubt Hitler had great insight and the power to understand the mood of the people, which very quickly brought him to a position of great power. He had a sharp intellect as seen in his writing (Mein Kampf) but the affliction to both Saturn and nakshatra lord Mercury resulted in the very worst manifestation of this nakshatra. It is said that Ashlesha is one of the Teekshna (sharp) and Daruna (horrible) Nakshatras. In these nakshatras, things like Abhichaar Karma (Marana or killing someone), Mohan or hypnotizing some one, Uchchatan (distraction etc.); Tantrika experiments, deeds of ambush and of horror, causing differences among friends etc. (causing quarrel by backbiting), and training and tying of an animal, may be effectively and auspiciously done. All nakshatras have both negative and positive connotations; depending, of course, on the condition and strength of the planets involved. Blanket statements (one size fits all) are short-sighted to say the least. Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com =================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4822 (20100131) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Ma'm Wendy, I am sorry for my unability in responding promptly, I am working with a multinational software company holding managerial responsibilities, so, apart from weekends, I get opportunity only in the night after the work and sometimes after my dinner. My statement about Ashlesha had a reference to Lagna and Lagna lord, perhapse, I couldn't highlight it. I w'd like to present another case in which Ashlesha has given rise to Kundalini - Srila Prabhu Pada, born on - 4 Nov, 1896 @ 4pm. In the above case, Ketu is placed in Ashlesha in 4'th house, however, this alone couldn't kept the fire burning for long, The divine support came from 9'th lord Jup's placement on 5'th house, Lagna lord Mars is placed in dhanu navamsa, therefore, the divine stroke transformed the curious mind to an inginted mind, still, Sun's debility slowed down the process. I am trully happy to see you even living in a distant country and still possess such a great insight of vedic astrology. I am surprised to know though I have not given my birth details still you got my horoscope, I am not sure if that's correct one or not. I m born on 17'th August, 1972 @ 20.15 pm at 24N32. I don't remember exact dates when I got divine experiences and before 2006, I was not into astrology, that's also a reason, but, I can give you the months and seasons when I was taken to such superb moments of life, had I myself not experienced, perhapse, I couldn't have believed it. regards,Lalit Mishra jyotish-vidya , "Mrs. Wendy" <jyotishvidya wrote:>> Dear Group,> > Lalit's post regarding Ashlesha has sparked my interest...for reasons that should be obvious.> > As we know the symbol for Ashlesha is the serpent which is indeed associated with kundalini (itself symbolized as a serpent) which lies dormant, coiled at the base of the spine beneath the mooladhara chakra. If I'm not mistaken the term 'kundalini' is a Sanskrit word that means coiled up or 'coiled like a snake'...I stand corrected if in error here.> > So, in this respect I'm in agreement with Lalit. However, the blanket statement that "those who get Ashlesha in trikona (1,5,9) houses can have a drive for Kundalini's awakening" can be a bit misleading, as careful consideration of other factors is needed.> > Also, there can be no doubt that spontaneous kundalini arousal can happen whether or not the planet involved occupies a trikona...I have horoscopes that prove this!> > As Ashlesha is lorded by Mercury it is rightly concerned with intellect. Astrologer Manisha Rathore writes this:> > **Ruled by Mercury, the planet of intelligence, the symbol of Ashlesha is the serpent. They are youthful and charming in appearance. They have a penetrating insight and power to look deep inside people and understand their motivation or what goes on in their mind. They are very tactful and know how to win their opponents through tact.**> > However, common-sense tells us that the condition of nakshatra lord Mercury is of prime importance. Adolf Hitler had YogaKaraka Saturn, aspected by malefic Mars and poorly placed in 10th (great enemy), in nakshatra of Ashlesha, whilst nakshatra lord Mercury (also in house of enemy) was combust 11th lord Sun. No doubt Hitler had great insight and the power to understand the mood of the people, which very quickly brought him to a position of great power. He had a sharp intellect as seen in his writing (Mein Kampf) but the affliction to both Saturn and nakshatra lord Mercury resulted in the very worst manifestation of this nakshatra.> > It is said that Ashlesha is one of the Teekshna (sharp) and Daruna (horrible) Nakshatras. In these nakshatras, things like Abhichaar Karma (Marana or killing someone), Mohan or hypnotizing some one, Uchchatan (distraction etc.); Tantrika experiments, deeds of ambush and of horror, causing differences among friends etc. (causing quarrel by backbiting), and training and tying of an animal, may be effectively and auspiciously done.> > All nakshatras have both negative and positive connotations; depending, of course, on the condition and strength of the planets involved. Blanket statements (one size fits all) are short-sighted to say the least.> > Best Wishes,> Mrs. Wendy> http://JyotishVidya.com> > ===================> > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4822 (20100131) __________> > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.> > http://www.eset.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Dear Lalit, ///My statement about Ashlesha had a reference to Lagna and Lagna lord, perhapse, I couldn't highlight it./// What you will find in many cases is a connection with 9th house, indicating the experience of kundalini awakening as a result of meditation, worship, merits from past lives etc.. I too, with two planets in Ashlesha, had a kundalini awakening whilst meditating at the meditation centre in Zimbabwe. Dasa running SA-VE-JU-RA...Jupiter and Rahu both in Ashlesha with nakshatra lord Mercury exalted in 9th. Jupiter, in sign of exaltation, is lord of 12th moksha bhava. 12th (4th from 9th) signifies religious dwelling, ashram etc.. Perhaps later, time permitting, I will share my actual experience of kundalini rising. It was indeed very physical, ///I w'd like to present another case in which Ashlesha has given rise to Kundalini - Srila Prabhu Pada, born on - 4 Nov, 1896 @ 4pm./// Unfortunately you have the date wrong here Srila Prabhupada was born 1st Sep 1896 and left this world 14 Nov 1977. He was born in Calcutta, West Bengal at 16:00 giving him Capricorn rising in nakshatra of Sun. There are no planets on Cancer. ///I am surprised to know though I have not given my birth details still you got my horoscope, I am not sure if that's correct one or not.I m born on 17'th August, 1972 @ 20.15 pm at 24N32./// Your data was given (by yourself) some time ago on another group (and passed on to me). However I have the T.O.B. as 20:20 ? PS: Some members, not wishing to discuss their experience publicly, have written to me privately giving me details of their experience. Unfortunately, like yourself there's not much recollection of the date... Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com =================== litsol Tuesday, 2 February 2010 2:20 AMjyotish-vidya Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha Ma'm Wendy,I am sorry for my unability in responding promptly, I am working with a multinational software company holding managerial responsibilities, so, apart from weekends, I get opportunity only in the night after the work and sometimes after my dinner. My statement about Ashlesha had a reference to Lagna and Lagna lord, perhapse, I couldn't highlight it. I w'd like to present another case in which Ashlesha has given rise to Kundalini - Srila Prabhu Pada, born on - 4 Nov, 1896 @ 4pm. In the above case, Ketu is placed in Ashlesha in 4'th house, however, this alone couldn't kept the fire burning for long, The divine support came from 9'th lord Jup's placement on 5'th house, Lagna lord Mars is placed in dhanu navamsa, therefore, the divine stroke transformed the curious mind to an inginted mind, still, Sun's debility slowed down the process. I am trully happy to see you even living in a distant country and still possess such a great insight of vedic astrology. I am surprised to know though I have not given my birth details still you got my horoscope, I am not sure if that's correct one or not. I m born on 17'th August, 1972 @ 20.15 pm at 24N32. I don't remember exact dates when I got divine experiences and before 2006, I was not into astrology, that's also a reason, but, I can give you the months and seasons when I was taken to such superb moments of life, had I myself not experienced, perhapse, I couldn't have believed it. regards,Lalit Mishra =================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4825 (20100201) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 PS: Eckhart Tolle is another who comes to mind with 9th lord Saturn in Ashlesha whilst nakshatra lord Mercury conjuncts Sun in 9th... __________________________ Dear Lalit, ///My statement about Ashlesha had a reference to Lagna and Lagna lord, perhapse, I couldn't highlight it./// What you will find in many cases is a connection with 9th house, indicating the experience of kundalini awakening as a result of meditation, worship, merits from past lives etc.. I too, with two planets in Ashlesha, had a kundalini awakening whilst meditating at the meditation centre in Zimbabwe. Dasa running SA-VE-JU-RA...Jupiter and Rahu both in Ashlesha with nakshatra lord Mercury exalted in 9th. Jupiter, in sign of exaltation, is lord of 12th moksha bhava. 12th (4th from 9th) signifies religious dwelling, ashram etc.. Perhaps later, time permitting, I will share my actual experience of kundalini rising. It was indeed very physical, ///I w'd like to present another case in which Ashlesha has given rise to Kundalini - Srila Prabhu Pada, born on - 4 Nov, 1896 @ 4pm./// Unfortunately you have the date wrong here Srila Prabhupada was born 1st Sep 1896 and left this world 14 Nov 1977. He was born in Calcutta, West Bengal at 16:00 giving him Capricorn rising in nakshatra of Sun. There are no planets on Cancer. ///I am surprised to know though I have not given my birth details still you got my horoscope, I am not sure if that's correct one or not.I m born on 17'th August, 1972 @ 20.15 pm at 24N32./// Your data was given (by yourself) some time ago on another group (and passed on to me). However I have the T.O.B. as 20:20 ? PS: Some members, not wishing to discuss their experience publicly, have written to me privately giving me details of their experience. Unfortunately, like yourself there's not much recollection of the date... Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com =================== litsol Tuesday, 2 February 2010 2:20 AMjyotish-vidya Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha Ma'm Wendy,I am sorry for my unability in responding promptly, I am working with a multinational software company holding managerial responsibilities, so, apart from weekends, I get opportunity only in the night after the work and sometimes after my dinner. My statement about Ashlesha had a reference to Lagna and Lagna lord, perhapse, I couldn't highlight it. I w'd like to present another case in which Ashlesha has given rise to Kundalini - Srila Prabhu Pada, born on - 4 Nov, 1896 @ 4pm. In the above case, Ketu is placed in Ashlesha in 4'th house, however, this alone couldn't kept the fire burning for long, The divine support came from 9'th lord Jup's placement on 5'th house, Lagna lord Mars is placed in dhanu navamsa, therefore, the divine stroke transformed the curious mind to an inginted mind, still, Sun's debility slowed down the process. I am trully happy to see you even living in a distant country and still possess such a great insight of vedic astrology. I am surprised to know though I have not given my birth details still you got my horoscope, I am not sure if that's correct one or not. I m born on 17'th August, 1972 @ 20.15 pm at 24N32. I don't remember exact dates when I got divine experiences and before 2006, I was not into astrology, that's also a reason, but, I can give you the months and seasons when I was taken to such superb moments of life, had I myself not experienced, perhapse, I couldn't have believed it. regards,Lalit Mishra =================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4825 (20100201) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Dear Mrs. Wendy,Can you please share the birth data of Eckhart Tolle? I have read his book 'The Power of NOW'. That is very enlightening.Regards,Krishna On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: PS: Eckhart Tolle is another who comes to mind with 9th lord Saturn in Ashlesha whilst nakshatra lord Mercury conjuncts Sun in 9th... __________________________ Dear Lalit, ///My statement about Ashlesha had a reference to Lagna and Lagna lord, perhapse, I couldn't highlight it./// What you will find in many cases is a connection with 9th house, indicating the experience of kundalini awakening as a result of meditation, worship, merits from past lives etc.. I too, with two planets in Ashlesha, had a kundalini awakening whilst meditating at the meditation centre in Zimbabwe. Dasa running SA-VE-JU-RA...Jupiter and Rahu both in Ashlesha with nakshatra lord Mercury exalted in 9th. Jupiter, in sign of exaltation, is lord of 12th moksha bhava. 12th (4th from 9th) signifies religious dwelling, ashram etc.. Perhaps later, time permitting, I will share my actual experience of kundalini rising. It was indeed very physical, ///I w'd like to present another case in which Ashlesha has given rise to Kundalini - Srila Prabhu Pada, born on - 4 Nov, 1896 @ 4pm./// Unfortunately you have the date wrong here Srila Prabhupada was born 1st Sep 1896 and left this world 14 Nov 1977. He was born in Calcutta, West Bengal at 16:00 giving him Capricorn rising in nakshatra of Sun. There are no planets on Cancer. ///I am surprised to know though I have not given my birth details still you got my horoscope, I am not sure if that's correct one or not.I m born on 17'th August, 1972 @ 20.15 pm at 24N32./// Your data was given (by yourself) some time ago on another group (and passed on to me). However I have the T.O.B. as 20:20 ? PS: Some members, not wishing to discuss their experience publicly, have written to me privately giving me details of their experience. Unfortunately, like yourself there's not much recollection of the date... Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com =================== litsol Tuesday, 2 February 2010 2:20 AMjyotish-vidya Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha Ma'm Wendy,I am sorry for my unability in responding promptly, I am working with a multinational software company holding managerial responsibilities, so, apart from weekends, I get opportunity only in the night after the work and sometimes after my dinner. My statement about Ashlesha had a reference to Lagna and Lagna lord, perhapse, I couldn't highlight it. I w'd like to present another case in which Ashlesha has given rise to Kundalini - Srila Prabhu Pada, born on - 4 Nov, 1896 @ 4pm. In the above case, Ketu is placed in Ashlesha in 4'th house, however, this alone couldn't kept the fire burning for long, The divine support came from 9'th lord Jup's placement on 5'th house, Lagna lord Mars is placed in dhanu navamsa, therefore, the divine stroke transformed the curious mind to an inginted mind, still, Sun's debility slowed down the process. I am trully happy to see you even living in a distant country and still possess such a great insight of vedic astrology. I am surprised to know though I have not given my birth details still you got my horoscope, I am not sure if that's correct one or not. I m born on 17'th August, 1972 @ 20.15 pm at 24N32. I don't remember exact dates when I got divine experiences and before 2006, I was not into astrology, that's also a reason, but, I can give you the months and seasons when I was taken to such superb moments of life, had I myself not experienced, perhapse, I couldn't have believed it. regards,Lalit Mishra =================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4825 (20100201) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Dear Krishna, His birth data is: Eckhart Tolle 16 Feb 1948 Dortmund, Germany I settled on Gemini lagna due to certain physical characteristics i.e. he has exceptionally long hands (fingers) and feet. I used the approximate time of 14:00. Haven't done much else in way of rectification...perhaps this is something you might like to tackle? I have the DVD retreat series "Touching The Eternal" (India retreat) consisting of 6 DVDs and I couldn't help noticing his hands and feet. Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com =================== Krishnamurthy Seetharama Tuesday, 2 February 2010 1:20 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha Dear Mrs. Wendy, Can you please share the birth data of Eckhart Tolle? I have read his book 'The Power of NOW'. That is very enlightening. Regards,Krishna =================== On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya (AT) bigpond (DOT) com> wrote: PS: Eckhart Tolle is another who comes to mind with 9th lord Saturn in Ashlesha whilst nakshatra lord Mercury conjuncts Sun in 9th... =================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4825 (20100201) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Dear Mrs Wendy, It is not easy to find personal data on Eckhart Tolle but a Capricorn ascendant has an interesting combination of the moksha lords. The 4th and 8th lords Mars and Sun are in mutual aspect. Jupiter is in 12H in its own sign and aspects 4th lord Mars. Jupiter and Mars are in the nakshatra of Ketu and for an am birth Moon will also be in the nakshatra of Ketu. Sun 8L is in nak of Mars and is aspected by Mars. This can give a spiritual transformation. Jupiter in 12H shows he is bringing hidden knowledge to light. Writing, communications and teaching is consistent with exalted Ve in 3H. Ron Mrs. Wendy wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > His birth data is: > > Eckhart Tolle > 16 Feb 1948 > Dortmund, Germany > > I settled on Gemini lagna due to certain physical characteristics i.e. he has exceptionally long hands (fingers) and feet. I used the approximate time of 14:00. Haven't done much else in way of rectification...perhaps this is something you might like to tackle? > > I have the DVD retreat series " Touching The Eternal " (India retreat) consisting of 6 DVDs and I couldn't help noticing his hands and feet. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > > =================== > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > Tuesday, 2 February 2010 1:20 PM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha > > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > > > Can you please share the birth data of Eckhart Tolle? I have read his book 'The Power of NOW'. That is very enlightening. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > =================== > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: > > > > PS: Eckhart Tolle is another who comes to mind with 9th lord Saturn in Ashlesha whilst nakshatra lord Mercury conjuncts Sun in 9th... > > > =================== > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4825 (20100201) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Dear Lalit,congratulations.With your post about aslesha nakshatra you have touched the harnets nest i believe....looks like there are many charts to be probed....By the way the lagna of srila prabhupada is makara only as Mrs wendy posted....Love and Regards,gopi.jyotish-vidya , "litsol" <litsol wrote:>> > Ma'm Wendy,> > I am sorry for my unability in responding promptly, I am working with a> multinational software company holding managerial responsibilities, so,> apart from weekends, I get opportunity only in the night after the work> and sometimes after my dinner.> > My statement about Ashlesha had a reference to Lagna and Lagna lord,> perhapse, I couldn't highlight it.> > I w'd like to present another case in which Ashlesha has given rise to> Kundalini -> > Srila Prabhu Pada, born on - 4 Nov, 1896 @ 4pm.> > In the above case, Ketu is placed in Ashlesha in 4'th house, however,> this alone couldn't kept the fire burning for long, The divine support> came from 9'th lord Jup's placement on 5'th house, Lagna lord Mars is> placed in dhanu navamsa, therefore, the divine stroke transformed the> curious mind to an inginted mind, still, Sun's debility slowed down the> process.> > I am trully happy to see you even living in a distant country and still> possess such a great insight of vedic astrology.> > I am surprised to know though I have not given my birth details still> you got my horoscope, I am not sure if that's correct one or not.> > I m born on 17'th August, 1972 @ 20.15 pm at 24N32.> > I don't remember exact dates when I got divine experiences and before> 2006, I was not into astrology, that's also a reason, but, I can give> you the months and seasons when I was taken to such superb moments of> life, had I myself not experienced, perhapse, I couldn't have believed> it.> > regards,> Lalit Mishra> > > > > jyotish-vidya , "Mrs. Wendy" jyotishvidya@> wrote:> >> > Dear Group,> >> > Lalit's post regarding Ashlesha has sparked my interest...for reasons> that should be obvious.> >> > As we know the symbol for Ashlesha is the serpent which is indeed> associated with kundalini (itself symbolized as a serpent) which lies> dormant, coiled at the base of the spine beneath the mooladhara chakra.> If I'm not mistaken the term 'kundalini' is a Sanskrit word that means> coiled up or 'coiled like a snake'...I stand corrected if in error here.> >> > So, in this respect I'm in agreement with Lalit. However, the blanket> statement that "those who get Ashlesha in trikona (1,5,9) houses can> have a drive for Kundalini's awakening" can be a bit misleading, as> careful consideration of other factors is needed.> >> > Also, there can be no doubt that spontaneous kundalini arousal can> happen whether or not the planet involved occupies a trikona...I have> horoscopes that prove this!> >> > As Ashlesha is lorded by Mercury it is rightly concerned with> intellect. Astrologer Manisha Rathore writes this:> >> > **Ruled by Mercury, the planet of intelligence, the symbol of Ashlesha> is the serpent. They are youthful and charming in appearance. They have> a penetrating insight and power to look deep inside people and> understand their motivation or what goes on in their mind. They are very> tactful and know how to win their opponents through tact.**> >> > However, common-sense tells us that the condition of nakshatra lord> Mercury is of prime importance. Adolf Hitler had YogaKaraka Saturn,> aspected by malefic Mars and poorly placed in 10th (great enemy), in> nakshatra of Ashlesha, whilst nakshatra lord Mercury (also in house of> enemy) was combust 11th lord Sun. No doubt Hitler had great insight and> the power to understand the mood of the people, which very quickly> brought him to a position of great power. He had a sharp intellect as> seen in his writing (Mein Kampf) but the affliction to both Saturn and> nakshatra lord Mercury resulted in the very worst manifestation of this> nakshatra.> >> > It is said that Ashlesha is one of the Teekshna (sharp) and Daruna> (horrible) Nakshatras. In these nakshatras, things like Abhichaar Karma> (Marana or killing someone), Mohan or hypnotizing some one, Uchchatan> (distraction etc.); Tantrika experiments, deeds of ambush and of horror,> causing differences among friends etc. (causing quarrel by backbiting),> and training and tying of an animal, may be effectively and auspiciously> done.> >> > All nakshatras have both negative and positive connotations;> depending, of course, on the condition and strength of the planets> involved. Blanket statements (one size fits all) are short-sighted to> say the least.> >> > Best Wishes,> > Mrs. Wendy> > http://JyotishVidya.com> >> > ===================> >> >> >> >> >> >> > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus> signature database 4822 (20100131) __________> >> > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.> >> > http://www.eset.com> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Dear Krishna,  You may like to visit the following URL:  You may like to post the rectified time by your technique, if you choose to do so.  Regards, C.S. Ravindramani  http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/ecszQH6rQ4Sf.htm#  On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote:  Dear Mrs. Wendy, Can you please share the birth data of Eckhart Tolle? I have read his book 'The Power of NOW'. That is very enlightening. Regards,Krishna  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Ravindramani, I've just had a quick glance at the website. They give the time as 12:00pm (unknown). As we all know, 12:00pm is the time commonly used when actual T.O.B. is unavailable. Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com =================== C.S. Ravindramani Tuesday, 2 February 2010 2:40 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha Dear Krishna, You may like to visit the following URL: You may like to post the rectified time by your technique, if you choose to do so. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani =================== http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/ecszQH6rQ4Sf.htm# On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 > wrote: Dear Mrs. Wendy, Can you please share the birth data of Eckhart Tolle? I have read his book 'The Power of NOW'. That is very enlightening. Regards,Krishna =================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4826 (20100202) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Mrs. Wendy,Thanks for the info.Looks like there is a small change in the birth place. According to wikipedia he was born in Lunen near Dortmund. This does not make any noticeable impact, but it is correct to take Lunen as his birth place. My BTR technique works only around a given approximate time and is not suitable when the birth time is not known at all. If I assume Gemini as the lagna, my technique gives the following possible times: 12:12:0413:17:2714:03:19Regards,Krishna On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: Dear Krishna, His birth data is: Eckhart Tolle 16 Feb 1948 Dortmund, Germany I settled on Gemini lagna due to certain physical characteristics i.e. he has exceptionally long hands (fingers) and feet. I used the approximate time of 14:00. Haven't done much else in way of rectification...perhaps this is something you might like to tackle? I have the DVD retreat series " Touching The Eternal " (India retreat) consisting of 6 DVDs and I couldn't help noticing his hands and feet. Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com =================== Krishnamurthy Seetharama Tuesday, 2 February 2010 1:20 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha Dear Mrs. Wendy, Can you please share the birth data of Eckhart Tolle? I have read his book 'The Power of NOW'. That is very enlightening. Regards,Krishna =================== On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: PS: Eckhart Tolle is another who comes to mind with 9th lord Saturn in Ashlesha whilst nakshatra lord Mercury conjuncts Sun in 9th... =================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4825 (20100201) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Mrs. Wendy,  This URL providies some specific dates concerning the life of the individual. This could help Mr. Krishna to rectify. That was my idea to post that message.  Regards, C.S. Ravindramani   On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:  Dear Ravindramani,  I've just had a quick glance at the website. They give the time as 12:00pm (unknown). As we all know, 12:00pm is the time commonly used when actual T.O.B. is unavailable.  Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com  ===================   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Krishna ji, Thanks for the clarification and the possible time frames. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > My BTR technique works only around a given approximate time and is not > suitable when the birth time is not known at all. If I assume Gemini as the lagna, my technique gives the following possible times: > > 12:12:04 > 13:17:27 > 14:03:19 > > Regards, > Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Dear ones,I am posting 2 charts worth studying with reference to aslesha nakshatra.for those who are interested....while Gandhi got his mo in aslesha in 10th(own) with Rahu(foreign) EK has Sun in aslesha with Mer®9L in 7H...in nipunayoga?1.M.K.Gandhi...whom majority senior citizens of india consider and aptly given title of MAHATMA(great soul)..2-10-1869;8.35am;porbandar,india...2.Master E.K who wrote (onlyto my knowledge)a book SPIRITUAL ASTROLOGY and a Guru(master) himself11-8-1926;5.31pm;bapatla(india)Both have done yeomen service to humanity in their own way.Love and regards,gopi.jyotish-vidya , "Mrs. Wendy" <jyotishvidya wrote:>> Dear Ravindramani,> > I've just had a quick glance at the website. They give the time as 12:00pm (unknown). As we all know, 12:00pm is the time commonly used when actual T.O.B. is unavailable.> > Best Wishes,> Mrs. Wendy> http://JyotishVidya.com> > ===================> > > > C.S. Ravindramani > Tuesday, 2 February 2010 2:40 PM> jyotish-vidya > Re: Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha> > > > > Dear Krishna,> > You may like to visit the following URL: > > You may like to post the rectified time by your technique, if you choose to do so. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani> > ===================> > > http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/ecszQH6rQ4Sf.htm#> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama kmurthys58 wrote:> > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > > > Can you please share the birth data of Eckhart Tolle? I have read his book 'The Power of NOW'. That is very enlightening.> > Regards,> Krishna > > > ===================> > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4826 (20100202) __________> > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.> > http://www.eset.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Ma'm Wendy, You are correct that Srila PrabhuPad was born on 1 Sept 1896, I made chart of the same date, that's why got Sun in debility but while posting the data, happen to write his date of death which is 4'th Nov. Makar lagna's special quality is to act and follow the Guru or an Aauthority, When I found Swami Vivekananda was also born with Makar Lagna, there was an uproar out of unawareness, not only Swami Vivekananda but mythological birth chart of Sri Hanumanji also Makar lagna is rising. following is the content of a letter written by Srila Prabhupad himself to a close devotee - // Vrindaban 6 December, 1975 My Dear Jaya Krishna Thakura, Please accept my blessings. I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated November 30, 1975. Yes I remember you were coming to see me daily at Bhaktivedanta Manor during my stay there in 1973. Regarding your question about my birth. I was born September 1, 1896, Tuesday at about 4:00 in the afternoon. My rasi is Metthuna. I hope this letter finds you well. Your ever well wisher, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami ACBS/had (emphasis added) // regards, Lalit. jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > ///My statement about Ashlesha had a reference to Lagna and Lagna lord, perhapse, I couldn't highlight it./// > > What you will find in many cases is a connection with 9th house, indicating the experience of kundalini awakening as a result of meditation, worship, merits from past lives etc.. I too, with two planets in Ashlesha, had a kundalini awakening whilst meditating at the meditation centre in Zimbabwe. Dasa running SA-VE-JU-RA...Jupiter and Rahu both in Ashlesha with nakshatra lord Mercury exalted in 9th. Jupiter, in sign of exaltation, is lord of 12th moksha bhava. 12th (4th from 9th) signifies religious dwelling, ashram etc.. > > Perhaps later, time permitting, I will share my actual experience of kundalini rising. It was indeed very physical, > > ///I w'd like to present another case in which Ashlesha has given rise to Kundalini - Srila Prabhu Pada, born on - 4 Nov, 1896 @ 4pm./// > > Unfortunately you have the date wrong here Srila Prabhupada was born 1st Sep 1896 and left this world 14 Nov 1977. He was born in Calcutta, West Bengal at 16:00 giving him Capricorn rising in nakshatra of Sun. There are no planets on Cancer. > > ///I am surprised to know though I have not given my birth details still you got my horoscope, I am not sure if that's correct one or not.I m born on 17'th August, 1972 @ 20.15 pm at 24N32./// > > Your data was given (by yourself) some time ago on another group (and passed on to me). However I have the T.O.B. as 20:20 ? > > PS: Some members, not wishing to discuss their experience publicly, have written to me privately giving me details of their experience. Unfortunately, like yourself there's not much recollection of the date... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > > =================== > > > litsol > Tuesday, 2 February 2010 2:20 AM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha > > > > Ma'm Wendy, > I am sorry for my unability in responding promptly, I am working with a multinational software company holding managerial responsibilities, so, apart from weekends, I get opportunity only in the night after the work and sometimes after my dinner. > > My statement about Ashlesha had a reference to Lagna and Lagna lord, perhapse, I couldn't highlight it. > > I w'd like to present another case in which Ashlesha has given rise to Kundalini - > Srila Prabhu Pada, born on - 4 Nov, 1896 @ 4pm. > > In the above case, Ketu is placed in Ashlesha in 4'th house, however, this alone couldn't kept the fire burning for long, The divine support came from 9'th lord Jup's placement on 5'th house, Lagna lord Mars is placed in dhanu navamsa, therefore, the divine stroke transformed the curious mind to an inginted mind, still, Sun's debility slowed down the process. > > I am trully happy to see you even living in a distant country and still possess such a great insight of vedic astrology. > > I am surprised to know though I have not given my birth details still you got my horoscope, I am not sure if that's correct one or not. > > I m born on 17'th August, 1972 @ 20.15 pm at 24N32. > > I don't remember exact dates when I got divine experiences and before 2006, I was not into astrology, that's also a reason, but, I can give you the months and seasons when I was taken to such superb moments of life, had I myself not experienced, perhapse, I couldn't have believed it. > > regards, > Lalit Mishra > > =================== > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4825 (20100201) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Ma'm wndy and Other Members, If somebody has Eckhart Tolle's email id, pls ask his date and time of birth. He w'd like to respond. regards, Lalit jyotish-vidya , RonDay <ronkar wrote: > > Dear Mrs Wendy, > > It is not easy to find personal data on Eckhart Tolle but a Capricorn > ascendant has an interesting combination of the moksha lords. > The 4th and 8th lords Mars and Sun are in mutual aspect. Jupiter is in > 12H in its own sign and aspects 4th lord Mars. > > Jupiter and Mars are in the nakshatra of Ketu and for an am birth Moon > will also be in the nakshatra of Ketu. > > Sun 8L is in nak of Mars and is aspected by Mars. This can give a > spiritual transformation. > Jupiter in 12H shows he is bringing hidden knowledge to light. > Writing, communications and teaching is consistent with exalted Ve in 3H. > > > Ron > > > > Mrs. Wendy wrote: > > Dear Krishna, > > > > His birth data is: > > > > Eckhart Tolle > > 16 Feb 1948 > > Dortmund, Germany > > > > I settled on Gemini lagna due to certain physical characteristics i.e. he has exceptionally long hands (fingers) and feet. I used the approximate time of 14:00. Haven't done much else in way of rectification...perhaps this is something you might like to tackle? > > > > I have the DVD retreat series " Touching The Eternal " (India retreat) consisting of 6 DVDs and I couldn't help noticing his hands and feet. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > > > =================== > > > > > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > Tuesday, 2 February 2010 1:20 PM > > jyotish-vidya > > Re: Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha > > > > > > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > > > > > > > Can you please share the birth data of Eckhart Tolle? I have read his book 'The Power of NOW'. That is very enlightening. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > =================== > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Mrs. Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote: > > > > > > > > PS: Eckhart Tolle is another who comes to mind with 9th lord Saturn in Ashlesha whilst nakshatra lord Mercury conjuncts Sun in 9th... > > > > > > =================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4825 (20100201) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Lalit, This is an absolute nonsense! Srila Prabhupada's chart was discussed at length by senior astrologers back (somewhere) around 1998-2000 on the then quite active Gjlist. If my memory serves me, it was determined that the renowned Jyotishi Pandit G.K. Ojha was invited to read his horoscope which was confirmed by Prabhupada to be Capricorn. Older JV members who were also part of the Gjlist may remember this. Besides which, senior astrologers of the day delineated the chart and showed convincingly why Capricorn was correct. If you wish to exercise your skills of delineation then please do go ahead and show your reasons why you think Mithuna (Gemini) is correct. ///When I found Swami Vivekananda was also born with MakarLagna, there was an uproar out of unawareness/// I, along with many other senior astrologers, have Swami Vivekananda's chart on file also showing Capricorn (Makara) lagna...this is nothing new! No doubt your enthusiasm for jyotish is commendable; However, at such an early stage of your studies, it's evident (in your posts) that your enthusiasm surpasses your experience. Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com =================== litsol Wednesday, 3 February 2010 2:33 AM jyotish-vidya Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha Ma'm Wendy,You are correct that Srila PrabhuPad was born on 1 Sept 1896, I madechart of the same date, that's why got Sun in debility but while postingthe data, happen to write his date of death which is 4'th Nov.Makar lagna's special quality is to act and follow the Guru or anAauthority, When I found Swami Vivekananda was also born with MakarLagna, there was an uproar out of unawareness, not only SwamiVivekananda but mythological birth chart of Sri Hanumanji also Makarlagna is rising.following is the content of a letter written by Srila Prabhupad himselfto a close devotee -//Vrindaban6 December, 1975My Dear Jaya Krishna Thakura,Please accept my blessings. I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letterdated November 30, 1975.Yes I remember you were coming to see me daily at Bhaktivedanta Manorduring my stay there in 1973. Regarding your question about my birth. Iwas born September 1, 1896, Tuesday at about 4:00 in the afternoon. Myrasi is Metthuna.I hope this letter finds you well.Your ever well wisher,A.C. Bhaktivedanta SwamiACBS/had (emphasis added)//regards,Lalit. =================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4829 (20100202) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Ron, Many thanks for your thoughts on this. I will have a look at Capricorn, but straight off there are a few things that cause me doubt. I have managed to take a quick look at his biography and find some things tend to verify Gemini... FOR INSTANCE: **At age twenty-two or twenty-three ... I became interested in intellectual matters. My mind became more and more active. I was seeking some kind of answer through the intellect, through philosophy, psychology, and literature. And I believed that the answer was to be found in the intellect and philosophy. So that is when I started getting qualifications in preparatory evening classes that I needed to get into the university in England.** With Gemini rising (T.O.B. 14:03:19) Eckhart was running dasa of MO/ME. Note bhukti lord Mercury (intellect) conjunct lagnakaraka Sun in 9th (higher learning, philosophy etc).. Unfortunately I have some things to do away from the computer for a while so cannot look more into this until later today. In the meantime I encourage others to offer their insights on possible lagna. Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com =================== RonDay Tuesday, 2 February 2010 2:15 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha Dear Mrs Wendy,It is not easy to find personal data on Eckhart Tolle but a Capricorn ascendant has an interesting combination of the moksha lords.The 4th and 8th lords Mars and Sun are in mutual aspect. Jupiter is in 12H in its own sign and aspects 4th lord Mars.Jupiter and Mars are in the nakshatra of Ketu and for an am birth Moon will also be in the nakshatra of Ketu.Sun 8L is in nak of Mars and is aspected by Mars. This can give a spiritual transformation.Jupiter in 12H shows he is bringing hidden knowledge to light.Writing, communications and teaching is consistent with exalted Ve in 3H.Ron =================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4829 (20100202) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 You are absolutely wrong - seems, didn't understand difference between Rashi and Lagna, Srila PrabhuPada has written in his letter that his rashi (moon sign) is mithuna not the ascendent, I just supported that Srila Prabhupada is of Makar Lagna and found your reply of this sort. Whereas the birth time of 4 pm, gives Vrisabha as moon sign (rashi) at 1 Sept 1896, you didn't notice this ... Have some patience ! Perhapse, you are not aware that in India a whole generation of astrologers take Swami Vivekananda to be of Dhanu Lagna including K.N Rao and his team as well as Sri BV Raman and his followers, as well as PV Narsimha and many more from SJC school. I disliked the manner you reacted, instead of, welcoming the receipt of Srila PrabhuPad's own letter. ~Lalit Mishra. jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Lalit, > > This is an absolute nonsense! Srila Prabhupada's chart was discussed at length by senior astrologers back (somewhere) around 1998-2000 on the then quite active Gjlist. If my memory serves me, it was determined that the renowned Jyotishi Pandit G.K. Ojha was invited to read his horoscope which was confirmed by Prabhupada to be Capricorn. Older JV members who were also part of the Gjlist may remember this. > > Besides which, senior astrologers of the day delineated the chart and showed convincingly why Capricorn was correct. If you wish to exercise your skills of delineation then please do go ahead and show your reasons why you think Mithuna (Gemini) is correct. > > ///When I found Swami Vivekananda was also born with Makar > Lagna, there was an uproar out of unawareness/// > > I, along with many other senior astrologers, have Swami Vivekananda's chart on file also showing Capricorn (Makara) lagna...this is nothing new! > > No doubt your enthusiasm for jyotish is commendable; However, at such an early stage of your studies, it's evident (in your posts) that your enthusiasm surpasses your experience. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > > =================== > > > > litsol > Wednesday, 3 February 2010 2:33 AM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha > > > > > Ma'm Wendy, > > You are correct that Srila PrabhuPad was born on 1 Sept 1896, I made > chart of the same date, that's why got Sun in debility but while posting > the data, happen to write his date of death which is 4'th Nov. > > Makar lagna's special quality is to act and follow the Guru or an > Aauthority, When I found Swami Vivekananda was also born with Makar > Lagna, there was an uproar out of unawareness, not only Swami > Vivekananda but mythological birth chart of Sri Hanumanji also Makar > lagna is rising. > > following is the content of a letter written by Srila Prabhupad himself > to a close devotee - > > // > > Vrindaban > 6 December, 1975 > > My Dear Jaya Krishna Thakura, > Please accept my blessings. I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letter > dated November 30, 1975. > > Yes I remember you were coming to see me daily at Bhaktivedanta Manor > during my stay there in 1973. Regarding your question about my birth. I > was born September 1, 1896, Tuesday at about 4:00 in the afternoon. My > rasi is Metthuna. > I hope this letter finds you well. > > Your ever well wisher, > A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami > ACBS/had (emphasis added) > > // > > regards, > Lalit. > > > =================== > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4829 (20100202) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Hasten slowly.  May be certain facts are correct in your message. Still it is desirable, if one shows humbleness in his attitude. After all Jyotish should bring humbleness in a person one who practices it. Otherwise it is useless.  C.S. Ravindramani On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:32 AM, litsol <litsol wrote:  You are absolutely wrong - seems, didn't understand difference betweenRashi and Lagna, Srila PrabhuPada has written in his letter that hisrashi (moon sign) is mithuna not the ascendent, I just supported that Srila Prabhupada is of Makar Lagna and found your reply of this sort.Whereas the birth time of 4 pm, gives Vrisabha as moon sign (rashi) at 1Sept 1896, you didn't notice this ...Have some patience ! Perhapse, you are not aware that in India a whole generation ofastrologers take Swami Vivekananda to be of Dhanu Lagna including K.NRao and his team as well as Sri BV Raman and his followers, as well asPV Narsimha and many more from SJC school. I disliked the manner you reacted, instead of, welcoming the receipt ofSrila PrabhuPad's own letter.~Lalit Mishra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 ///Have some patience !/// Your insolence has tested my patience on more than one occasion and YES, there most certainly IS a limit to this!! ///Perhapse, you are not aware that in India a whole generation ofastrologers take Swami Vivekananda to be of Dhanu Lagna including K.NRao and his team as well as Sri BV Raman and his followers, as well asPV Narsimha and many more from SJC school./// Now really you have dropped some names here, haven't you! With no disrespect for K.N. Rao intended, the fact is that there are several of his rectified charts that astrologers are in disagreement with. And (again) B.V. Raman's so-called rectified birth of Jesus Christ (and others) is evidence enough that, although offering a great service to jyotish, neither of these great souls, like all astrologers (myself included), are infallible. As for Narasimha Rao and the SJC school, my dealings with them go back many long years...long before you developed any interest in astrology! I've recently had private mails from members that point to the fact that Narasimha is no longer blindly following his guru (Sanjay Rath), so perhaps his understanding has improved since our exchanges on Gjlist. However my opinion can only be based on his competence at the time of our communications. Certainly I will concede that being rather busy at the time, reading through and assessing (many) other mails (both on and off the list), I obviously read through yours rather too quickly and missed the point that the letter was referring to Mithuna rasi...easy enough to do as we were discussing lagna. Please read below (from your previous post)... ///In the above case, Ketu is placed in Ashlesha in 4'th house, however, this alone couldn't kept the fire burning for long, The divine support came from 9'th lord Jup's placement on 5'th house, Lagna lord Mars is placed in dhanu navamsa, therefore, the divine stroke transformed the curious mind to an inginted mind, still, Sun's debility slowed down the process/// In any case your repeated mails, on several topics, stating that; "you are wrong", or "you are not much correct" (referring to myself), is extremely insolent (rude). I ask you to read the welcoming message on JV group...in respect to the following in particular: **Disrespectful behavior is not tolerated and offenders will be banned from the group without notice.** =================== litsol Wednesday, 3 February 2010 12:02 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha You are absolutely wrong - seems, didn't understand difference betweenRashi and Lagna, Srila PrabhuPada has written in his letter that hisrashi (moon sign) is mithuna not the ascendent, I just supported thatSrila Prabhupada is of Makar Lagna and found your reply of this sort.Whereas the birth time of 4 pm, gives Vrisabha as moon sign (rashi) at 1Sept 1896, you didn't notice this ...Have some patience !Perhapse, you are not aware that in India a whole generation ofastrologers take Swami Vivekananda to be of Dhanu Lagna including K.NRao and his team as well as Sri BV Raman and his followers, as well asPV Narsimha and many more from SJC school.I disliked the manner you reacted, instead of, welcoming the receipt ofSrila PrabhuPad's own letter.~Lalit Mishra. =================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Lalit, You Wrote: ///I am trully happy to see you even living in a distant country and still possess such a great insight of vedic astrology./// Where I live, or where I come from is totally irrelevant. All that should concern you is that I am a senior astrologer! My eldest son turned 46 last month...a mature man; But, even so, he would never speak to me in such a disrespectful manner as you have done...repeatedly! Let me tell you, I have a great deal of patience (necessary to run a group like this for close to nine years). However this, in no way, should suggest that my anger cannot (also) be roused. MRS. Wendy ==================== litsol Tuesday, 2 February 2010 2:20 AM jyotish-vidya Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha Ma'm Wendy, I am sorry for my unability in responding promptly, I am working with a multinational software company holding managerial responsibilities, so, apart from weekends, I get opportunity only in the night after the work and sometimes after my dinner. My statement about Ashlesha had a reference to Lagna and Lagna lord, perhapse, I couldn't highlight it. I w'd like to present another case in which Ashlesha has given rise to Kundalini - Srila Prabhu Pada, born on - 4 Nov, 1896 @ 4pm. In the above case, Ketu is placed in Ashlesha in 4'th house, however, this alone couldn't kept the fire burning for long, The divine support came from 9'th lord Jup's placement on 5'th house, Lagna lord Mars is placed in dhanu navamsa, therefore, the divine stroke transformed the curious mind to an inginted mind, still, Sun's debility slowed down the process. I am trully happy to see you even living in a distant country and still possess such a great insight of vedic astrology. I am surprised to know though I have not given my birth details still you got my horoscope, I am not sure if that's correct one or not. I m born on 17'th August, 1972 @ 20.15 pm at 24N32. I don't remember exact dates when I got divine experiences and before 2006, I was not into astrology, that's also a reason, but, I can give you the months and seasons when I was taken to such superb moments of life, had I myself not experienced, perhapse, I couldn't have believed it. regards,Lalit Mishra =================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4829 (20100202) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Mam Wendy, I admitted that i happen to use srila praphupaad's date of death, when you pointed out the mistake, I liked that and with honest approach i responded to you that you are true, Srila Prabhu's lagna is makar as you stated. But got surprised to see the way you responded to that mail with wordings - 'sheer nonsense'. That's no humbleness rather humilitation, why ? Let's have room for overselves and others as well. I intend only to do service to vedang jyotish, I m on a mission to remove confusions, contradictions crept into jyotish over thousands year, slavery of nation along with decline of science was also a reason. Though, I never wished to hurt you in any manner, rather, appreciated that way you even living in a distant country doing so much and with sincerity, but at the same time there should be space and openness, pls do not contain different view unless that's wrong and intension is also wrong. I am a free bird, I wd love to leave you if you feel you are uncomfortable. Regards, Lalit Mishra. jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > ///Have some patience !/// > > Your insolence has tested my patience on more than one occasion and YES, there most certainly IS a limit to this!! > > ///Perhapse, you are not aware that in India a whole generation of > astrologers take Swami Vivekananda to be of Dhanu Lagna including K.N > Rao and his team as well as Sri BV Raman and his followers, as well as > PV Narsimha and many more from SJC school./// > > Now really you have dropped some names here, haven't you! With no disrespect for K.N. Rao intended, the fact is that there are several of his rectified charts that astrologers are in disagreement with. And (again) B.V. Raman's so-called rectified birth of Jesus Christ (and others) is evidence enough that, although offering a great service to jyotish, neither of these great souls, like all astrologers (myself included), are infallible. > > As for Narasimha Rao and the SJC school, my dealings with them go back many long years...long before you developed any interest in astrology! I've recently had private mails from members that point to the fact that Narasimha is no longer blindly following his guru (Sanjay Rath), so perhaps his understanding has improved since our exchanges on Gjlist. However my opinion can only be based on his competence at the time of our communications. > > Certainly I will concede that being rather busy at the time, reading through and assessing (many) other mails (both on and off the list), I obviously read through yours rather too quickly and missed the point that the letter was referring to Mithuna rasi...easy enough to do as we were discussing lagna. Please read below (from your previous post)... > > ///In the above case, Ketu is placed in Ashlesha in 4'th house, however, this alone couldn't kept the fire burning for long, The divine support came from 9'th lord Jup's placement on 5'th house, Lagna lord Mars is placed in dhanu navamsa, therefore, the divine stroke transformed the curious mind to an inginted mind, still, Sun's debility slowed down the process/// > > In any case your repeated mails, on several topics, stating that; " you are wrong " , or " you are not much correct " (referring to myself), is extremely insolent (rude). > > I ask you to read the welcoming message on JV group...in respect to the following in particular: > > **Disrespectful behavior is not tolerated and offenders will be banned from the group without notice.** > > > =================== > > > > litsol > Wednesday, 3 February 2010 12:02 PM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha > > > > > You are absolutely wrong - seems, didn't understand difference between > Rashi and Lagna, Srila PrabhuPada has written in his letter that his > rashi (moon sign) is mithuna not the ascendent, I just supported that > Srila Prabhupada is of Makar Lagna and found your reply of this sort. > > Whereas the birth time of 4 pm, gives Vrisabha as moon sign (rashi) at 1 > Sept 1896, you didn't notice this ... > > Have some patience ! > > Perhapse, you are not aware that in India a whole generation of > astrologers take Swami Vivekananda to be of Dhanu Lagna including K.N > Rao and his team as well as Sri BV Raman and his followers, as well as > PV Narsimha and many more from SJC school. > > I disliked the manner you reacted, instead of, welcoming the receipt of > Srila PrabhuPad's own letter. > > ~Lalit Mishra. > > > > > =================== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Mam Wendy, I admitted that i happen to use srila praphupaad's date of death, when you pointed out the mistake, I liked that and with honest approach i responded to you that you are true, Srila Prabhu's lagna is makar as you stated. But got surprised to see the way you responded to that mail with wordings - 'sheer nonsense'. That's no humbleness rather humilitation, why ? Let's have room for overselves and others as well. I intend only to do service to vedang jyotish, I m on a mission to remove confusions, contradictions crept into jyotish over thousands year, slavery of nation along with decline of science was also a reason. Though, I never wished to hurt you in any manner, rather, appreciated that way you even living in a distant country doing so much and with sincerity, but at the same time there should be space and openness, pls do not contain different view unless that's wrong and intension is also wrong. I am a free bird, I wd love to leave you if you feel you are uncomfortable. Regards, Lalit Mishra. jyotish-vidya , " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > ///Have some patience !/// > > Your insolence has tested my patience on more than one occasion and YES, there most certainly IS a limit to this!! > > ///Perhapse, you are not aware that in India a whole generation of > astrologers take Swami Vivekananda to be of Dhanu Lagna including K.N > Rao and his team as well as Sri BV Raman and his followers, as well as > PV Narsimha and many more from SJC school./// > > Now really you have dropped some names here, haven't you! With no disrespect for K.N. Rao intended, the fact is that there are several of his rectified charts that astrologers are in disagreement with. And (again) B.V. Raman's so-called rectified birth of Jesus Christ (and others) is evidence enough that, although offering a great service to jyotish, neither of these great souls, like all astrologers (myself included), are infallible. > > As for Narasimha Rao and the SJC school, my dealings with them go back many long years...long before you developed any interest in astrology! I've recently had private mails from members that point to the fact that Narasimha is no longer blindly following his guru (Sanjay Rath), so perhaps his understanding has improved since our exchanges on Gjlist. However my opinion can only be based on his competence at the time of our communications. > > Certainly I will concede that being rather busy at the time, reading through and assessing (many) other mails (both on and off the list), I obviously read through yours rather too quickly and missed the point that the letter was referring to Mithuna rasi...easy enough to do as we were discussing lagna. Please read below (from your previous post)... > > ///In the above case, Ketu is placed in Ashlesha in 4'th house, however, this alone couldn't kept the fire burning for long, The divine support came from 9'th lord Jup's placement on 5'th house, Lagna lord Mars is placed in dhanu navamsa, therefore, the divine stroke transformed the curious mind to an inginted mind, still, Sun's debility slowed down the process/// > > In any case your repeated mails, on several topics, stating that; " you are wrong " , or " you are not much correct " (referring to myself), is extremely insolent (rude). > > I ask you to read the welcoming message on JV group...in respect to the following in particular: > > **Disrespectful behavior is not tolerated and offenders will be banned from the group without notice.** > > > =================== > > > > litsol > Wednesday, 3 February 2010 12:02 PM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha > > > > > You are absolutely wrong - seems, didn't understand difference between > Rashi and Lagna, Srila PrabhuPada has written in his letter that his > rashi (moon sign) is mithuna not the ascendent, I just supported that > Srila Prabhupada is of Makar Lagna and found your reply of this sort. > > Whereas the birth time of 4 pm, gives Vrisabha as moon sign (rashi) at 1 > Sept 1896, you didn't notice this ... > > Have some patience ! > > Perhapse, you are not aware that in India a whole generation of > astrologers take Swami Vivekananda to be of Dhanu Lagna including K.N > Rao and his team as well as Sri BV Raman and his followers, as well as > PV Narsimha and many more from SJC school. > > I disliked the manner you reacted, instead of, welcoming the receipt of > Srila PrabhuPad's own letter. > > ~Lalit Mishra. > > > > > =================== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Lalit, BTW I question the authenticity of this letter as, using the time of 16:00, exalted 7th lord Moon (along with 4th lord Mars) is in Taurus (Vrishabha). This, no doubt, is indicative of his strong attachment to the "Hare Krishna" mantra and his ability to make this known world-wide i.e. 7th house denotes one's relationship with the world at large as seen by the native. Another confirmation of this placement is the proliferation of literary works (again) spread world-wide. Note 5th lord Venus, dispositor of 7th lord Moon, in 9th house of publishing, religion (etc) conjunct exalted 9th lord Mercury. Note (again) Mercury's lordship of 6th house (preparation of food). As we know, vegetarian cooking formed a major part of his teaching. I have several of these truly wonderful (recipe) books...some of which I made for my family this Christmas day. There was a time when I also had several of his discourses on cassette tape, but they seem to have got lost somehow over the years. Best Wishes,Mrs. Wendyhttp://JyotishVidya.com =================== litsol Wednesday, 3 February 2010 2:33 AM jyotish-vidya Re: Nakshatras and their Lords: Ashlesha Ma'm Wendy,You are correct that Srila PrabhuPad was born on 1 Sept 1896, I madechart of the same date, that's why got Sun in debility but while postingthe data, happen to write his date of death which is 4'th Nov.Makar lagna's special quality is to act and follow the Guru or anAauthority, When I found Swami Vivekananda was also born with MakarLagna, there was an uproar out of unawareness, not only SwamiVivekananda but mythological birth chart of Sri Hanumanji also Makarlagna is rising.following is the content of a letter written by Srila Prabhupad himselfto a close devotee -//Vrindaban6 December, 1975My Dear Jaya Krishna Thakura,Please accept my blessings. I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letterdated November 30, 1975.Yes I remember you were coming to see me daily at Bhaktivedanta Manorduring my stay there in 1973. Regarding your question about my birth. Iwas born September 1, 1896, Tuesday at about 4:00 in the afternoon. Myrasi is Metthuna.I hope this letter finds you well.Your ever well wisher,A.C. Bhaktivedanta SwamiACBS/had (emphasis added)//regards,Lalit. =================== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4829 (20100202) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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