Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Dear Wendyji and group, I have a couple of queries, 1. Most things in astrology are logical and have a basis, however what is the basis for years assigned to planets dasa. For e.g. why is ketu dasa for 7 years and moon dasa for 10 years and so on? 2. When the karaka planet occupies its house it is considered detrimental (except for Saturn occuping 8th).For example jupiter in 5th house or venus in 7th.What is the implication of karaka planet occuping its house in it's own sign. For example what is the impact of Mars occupying 3rd house in scorpio sign. Warm Regards Nilesh --- On Wed, 10/3/10, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 > Re: Re: Dandruff > jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, 10 March, 2010, 8:55 PM > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > Thanks for giving your views. > > // but I think it would be a huge stretch to assume that > all instances of > dandruff are due to a fungal infection of some sort.// > > You are somewhat correct. Let me share my understanding on > the > subject. Every time white flakes appear on the scalp it is > not caused due to > fungus. Only when it is caused due to fungus it is termed > as Dandruff. > However, there are other cases when excessive dead skin > appears on the scalp > which looks similar to dandruff caused by the fungus. This > could be due to a > condition called 'Scalp Psoraisis'. Actually, Psoraisis can > occur on any > part of the body. It is understood that this condition > occurs from the fact > that skin in certain areas of the body grows at much faster > pace than normal > (even 10 times faster!). This excessive skin comes out in > the form of > flakes. > > Actually, my daughter used to get lot of white flakes on > her scalp. And she > also started losing hair. Our initial thought was this is > dandruff. She used > many anti-dandruff shampoos and there was no improvement in > the condition. > Then she started taking some homeopathic medicine after > consulting a doctor. > Even after two years, there was no improvement in the > condition. Then, I > took her to a different dermatologist. He inspected her > scalp and in less > than a minute he told us that this is not dandruff and in > fact this is > called psoraisis of the scalp. He informed that this is not > curable and > could last for 8-10 years once starts. However, he said > that the condition > can be managed with medicine to slow down the rate of skin > growth. He > explained that the flakes due to dandruff are much finer > and the flakes due > to psoraisis are larger in size. He prescribed some > ointment to be applied > to her scalp twice a week in the night and wash the scalp > in the morning. > Within a month her flaking reduced considerably and itching > came down. > Within another month or two her hair fall came down > drastically. She is > continuing with same medication and is quite happy about > it. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Mrs.Wendy <jyotishvidya > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > If I'm not mistaken fungus and/or yeast infection is a > type of parasite. > > I'm afraid it's been rather a busy day here today and > I'm a little tired at > > the moment...so I stand corrected if in error here. > Yes, Rahu can play a > > part in fungus infections, ringworm and so forth. > > > > If this query is in relation to dandruff, I should say > that this is usually > > little more than an acceleration of the normal > shedding of dead skin cells > > which occur quite normally in everyone. It becomes a > problem for some when > > the dead cells (flaking) becomes excessive giving rise > to what is termed as > > dandruff. Of course this can be a symptom of some > underlying skin condition, > > but I think it would be a huge stretch to assume that > all instances of > > dandruff are due to a fungal infection of some sort. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > Mrs.Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > =================== > > > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:26 PM > > > > jyotish-vidya > <jyotish-vidya%40> > > Re: Re: Dandruff > > > > > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > > > What represents fungus in astrology? Any clues? Could > it be Rahu? > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of virus signature > > database 4931 (20100310) __________ > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Dear Nilesh, > 1. Most things in astrology are logical and have a basis, > however what is the basis for years assigned to planets dasa. > For e.g. why is ketu dasa for 7 years and moon dasa for 10 years and so on? > The best answer I've seen so far is that the 9 nakshatra (in which the pattern of Dashas has it's root) cover 120º of the sky. As such the total duration of the system is 120 year. Each planet obtains a *percentage* of that 120 years. The constant for each is the percentage. Ketu, for example gets just about 6% of whatever portion it is in. So in the largest portion, this results in 7 years duration. When ketu is a sub-lord, or a sub-sub-lord, etc. it continues to have 6% duration. So in as a sub-lord in the Moon's dasha (a 10 year period), it will still have 6% of duration, but 6% of 10 - which is about 5 months and a little bit. As for the question of why each planet has a particular percentage, and not some other percentage... I have not heard a real answer to this anywhere. I have a hunch that it is related to some type of bala of the planet. But this is just a hunch for now. - Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Dear Mrs Wendy and Members. AStrology is logical.360 degrees ruled by 12 signs with 9 planets.taking responsibilities as assigned to them.The mathematical division of the years assigned as per roles given to them.Also Jyotish is not total mathematical too.The discretion of un as King in determination of number of years seems to be final. For the planets to function evidently karakatwas too have been put in place..The Royal cabinet to functions to over see the functionality. Royal family under the headship of sun is different from other members having role in cabinet. ..In assigning duties,Most of the planets own tow signs like Mars series and scorpio Venus taurus and libra jupiter sagittarus and pisces,mercury gemini and virgo All visionaries one each like cancer and leo.The make up is seven planets.Of them King gets 6 and queen gets 10 yrs(16 yrs),.If we take away royal planets the rest is for family members.Like two sons saturn 19yrs and sergeant 7 yrs(26 yrs),Raj Guru 16 yrs,Diatya guru 20 yrs(36yrs),mercury,a trader, adopted member 17 yrs.Finally nodes one with head 18 and the other with lower body 7 (25 yrs).we know nodes r like saturn and mars Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Wed, 3/10/10, Vic DiCara <vicdicara wrote: Vic DiCara <vicdicara Re: couple of queries jyotish-vidya Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 7:22 PM  Dear Nilesh, > 1. Most things in astrology are logical and have a basis, > however what is the basis for years assigned to planets dasa. > For e.g. why is ketu dasa for 7 years and moon dasa for 10 years and so on? > The best answer I've seen so far is that the 9 nakshatra (in which the pattern of Dashas has it's root) cover 120º of the sky. As such the total duration of the system is 120 year. Each planet obtains a *percentage* of that 120 years. The constant for each is the percentage. Ketu, for example gets just about 6% of whatever portion it is in. So in the largest portion, this results in 7 years duration. When ketu is a sub-lord, or a sub-sub-lord, etc. it continues to have 6% duration. So in as a sub-lord in the Moon's dasha (a 10 year period), it will still have 6% of duration, but 6% of 10 - which is about 5 months and a little bit. As for the question of why each planet has a particular percentage, and not some other percentage.. . I have not heard a real answer to this anywhere. I have a hunch that it is related to some type of bala of the planet. But this is just a hunch for now. - Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Vattem,Vic and group, Thanks for your reply. I think this is one of those few areas which is based on the profound wisdom of the sages. What do you think of the second query? Best Regards Nilesh jyotish-vidya , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Mrs Wendy and Members. > AStrology is logical.360 degrees ruled by 12 signs with 9 planets.taking responsibilities as assigned to them.The mathematical division of the years assigned as per roles given to them.Also Jyotish is not total mathematical too.The discretion of un as King in determination of number of years seems to be final. > For the planets to function evidently karakatwas too have been put in place..The Royal cabinet to functions to over see the functionality. > Royal family under the headship of sun is different from other members having role in cabinet. > .In assigning duties,Most of the planets own tow signs like Mars series and scorpio Venus taurus and libra jupiter sagittarus and pisces,mercury gemini and virgo > All visionaries one each like cancer and leo.The make up is seven planets.Of them King gets 6 and queen gets 10 yrs(16 yrs),.If we take away royal planets the rest is for family members.Like two sons saturn 19yrs and sergeant 7 yrs(26 yrs),Raj Guru 16 yrs,Diatya guru 20 yrs(36yrs),mercury,a trader, adopted member 17 yrs.Finally nodes one with head 18 and the other with lower body 7 (25 yrs).we know nodes r like saturn and mars > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Wed, 3/10/10, Vic DiCara <vicdicara wrote: > > Vic DiCara <vicdicara > Re: couple of queries > jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 7:22 PM >  > > > Dear Nilesh, > > > > > 1. Most things in astrology are logical and have a basis, > > > however what is the basis for years assigned to planets dasa. > > > For e.g. why is ketu dasa for 7 years and moon dasa for 10 years and so on? > > > > > > > The best answer I've seen so far is that the 9 nakshatra (in which the pattern of Dashas has it's root) cover 120º of the sky. As such the total duration of the system is 120 year. Each planet obtains a *percentage* of that 120 years. The constant for each is the percentage. Ketu, for example gets just about 6% of whatever portion it is in. So in the largest portion, this results in 7 years duration. When ketu is a sub-lord, or a sub-sub-lord, etc. it continues to have 6% duration. So in as a sub-lord in the Moon's dasha (a 10 year period), it will still have 6% of duration, but 6% of 10 - which is about 5 months and a little bit. > > > > As for the question of why each planet has a particular percentage, and not some other percentage.. . I have not heard a real answer to this anywhere. I have a hunch that it is related to some type of bala of the planet. But this is just a hunch for now. > > > > - Vic > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Nilesh, > What do you think of the second query? > > Looking forward to hearing what others have to say in this regard! - Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Namaste friends, A single factor in a chart cannot qualitatively decide the experiences which are to be enjoyed by a Native. Still, Mars in Scorpio in 3rd house means the Ascendant rising is Virgo. 3rd house becomes powerful since the ruler is placed in his own house. The native will have younger brothers. He will have stamina and courage. When Virgo rising, Mars becomes the 8th lord and moves to 3rd house. This ensures longevity. However, this indicates the native is quarrelsome and will have difference of opinion with his relatives and father. He may have to face problems in his workplace. He may have to face problems with his brothers when the ancestral property is shared. The native can even become violent if other factors are supporting. Mars becomes functional malefic for this lagna. Placement of malefic in 3rd house itself is desirable from the point of view of health. We are all aware a chart has to be analyzed in whole. It depends what is the signification which is under examination, the chronological age of the native and his background etc....at a given point of time. But this is a great exercise for a beginner as well as a seasoned to provide an opportunity to revise the basics. With regards, Sivaprakasam jyotish-vidya , Vic DiCara <vicdicara wrote: > > Dear Nilesh, > > What do you think of the second query? > > > > > Looking forward to hearing what others have to say in this regard! > > - Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Very well said! Regards, Krishna On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Sivaprakasam <sivaprakasamkpmwrote: > > > Namaste friends, > > A single factor in a chart cannot qualitatively decide the experiences > which are to be enjoyed by a Native. > > Still, Mars in Scorpio in 3rd house means the Ascendant rising is Virgo. > 3rd house becomes powerful since the ruler is placed in his own house. The > native will have younger brothers. He will have stamina and courage. > > When Virgo rising, Mars becomes the 8th lord and moves to 3rd house. This > ensures longevity. However, this indicates the native is quarrelsome and > will have difference of opinion with his relatives and father. He may have > to face problems in his workplace. He may have to face problems with his > brothers when the ancestral property is shared. The native can even become > violent if other factors are supporting. > > Mars becomes functional malefic for this lagna. Placement of malefic in 3rd > house itself is desirable from the point of view of health. > > We are all aware a chart has to be analyzed in whole. It depends what is > the signification which is under examination, the chronological age of the > native and his background etc....at a given point of time. But this is a > great exercise for a beginner as well as a seasoned to provide an > opportunity to revise the basics. > > With regards, > Sivaprakasam > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, > Vic DiCara <vicdicara wrote: > > > > Dear Nilesh, > > > What do you think of the second query? > > > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing what others have to say in this regard! > > > > - Vic > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Siva avarugal, this is interesting since my mother falls in the category!!. Most of what you wrote tally and what did not tally i highlight and like to discuss. //this indicates the native is quarrelsome and will have difference of opinion with his relatives and father.// My mother likes her father and siblings more than any body in this world!!.Ofcourse she is the eldest living!!. // The native can even become violent if other factors are supporting. // Very rare4sure!!. Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " Sivaprakasam " <sivaprakasamkpm wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > A single factor in a chart cannot qualitatively decide the experiences which are to be enjoyed by a Native. > > Still, Mars in Scorpio in 3rd house means the Ascendant rising is Virgo. 3rd house becomes powerful since the ruler is placed in his own house. The native will have younger brothers. He will have stamina and courage. > > When Virgo rising, Mars becomes the 8th lord and moves to 3rd house. This ensures longevity. However, this indicates the native is quarrelsome and will have difference of opinion with his relatives and father. He may have to face problems in his workplace. He may have to face problems with his brothers when the ancestral property is shared. The native can even become violent if other factors are supporting. > > Mars becomes functional malefic for this lagna. Placement of malefic in 3rd house itself is desirable from the point of view of health. > > We are all aware a chart has to be analyzed in whole. It depends what is the signification which is under examination, the chronological age of the native and his background etc....at a given point of time. But this is a great exercise for a beginner as well as a seasoned to provide an opportunity to revise the basics. > > With regards, > Sivaprakasam > > > jyotish-vidya , Vic DiCara vicdicara@ wrote: > > > > Dear Nilesh, > > > What do you think of the second query? > > > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing what others have to say in this regard! > > > > - Vic > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Namaste Gopi Garu, What I wrote about Mars in Scorpio, without knowing other placements, was absolutely general in nature. Mars is the planet which creates difference of opinion. Mars is powerful in his own sign. It is placed in 3rd house which is the 2nd house from 2nd house of speech. Mars from Scorpio would aspect 6th house of Aquarius (disputes and difference of opinion) and 9th house of Taurus (father) and 10th house of Gemini (the profession). Mars as 8th lord denotes ancestral property and he represents build property. When it is placed in Scorpio, he moves from Aries to 8th house obstacles. From the Ascendant that becomes the 3rd house of desire and mental inclinations. He is placed in the 12th house of loss from 4th house of property and the peace of mind. A powerful Mars wishes his acquaintances or subordinates or his siblings to work hard as he is and becomes over-critical, often making sarcastic remarks that leads to quarrels and disputes and at times that ends in violence (if it is under aspect of Saturn from an adverse house or Mercury is under malefic affliction and weak in the chart. We know the duality of Mercury and its impressionable nature). Mars in Scorpio gives the tendency to be secretive and the Scorpio has a sting in its tail. We do not know the placement of other rulers and their compound relationships. All the more, dasha sequence (the chronological age at one which enjoys the dasha of Mars, how Moon has handed over the charge to him and how Rahu is going to take the charge from him) and the transit one enjoys is of paramount importance for getting the stipulated results for a given planet. It depends on the strength and the placement of Mercury, which rules the Ascendant and the house of Karma, to decide how this powerful energy of Mars is to be utilized. Let me stop here :-). With regards, Sivaprakasam jyotish-vidya , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Dear Siva avarugal, > this is interesting since my mother falls in the category!!. > Most of what you wrote tally and what did not tally i highlight and like > to discuss. > //this indicates the native is quarrelsome and will have difference of > opinion with his relatives and father.// > My mother likes her father and siblings more than any body in this > world!!.Ofcourse she is the eldest living!!. > // The native can even become violent if other factors are supporting. > // > Very rare4sure!!. > Love and regards, > gopi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Dear Siva avarugal, vanakkam and thaks for a nice post.I agree with you in most of the things and majority of them tally with my mother.You have analyzed mars for virgo lagna placed in 3rd beautifully. My mother is fearless since childhood.She had more than enough problems ..She has Mer and ven conjunct Mars in 3rd.I amgiving the data below if you are interested. 25-10-1933;guntur;3.44am.She lost her husband on 4-12-1996 just for info........... Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " Sivaprakasam " <sivaprakasamkpm wrote: > > Namaste Gopi Garu, > > What I wrote about Mars in Scorpio, without knowing other placements, was absolutely general in nature. Mars is the planet which creates difference of opinion. Mars is powerful in his own sign. It is placed in 3rd house which is the 2nd house from 2nd house of speech. Mars from Scorpio would aspect 6th house of Aquarius (disputes and difference of opinion) and 9th house of Taurus (father) and 10th house of Gemini (the profession). Mars as 8th lord denotes ancestral property and he represents build property. When it is placed in Scorpio, he moves from Aries to 8th house obstacles. From the Ascendant that becomes the 3rd house of desire and mental inclinations. He is placed in the 12th house of loss from 4th house of property and the peace of mind. > > A powerful Mars wishes his acquaintances or subordinates or his siblings to work hard as he is and becomes over-critical, often making sarcastic remarks that leads to quarrels and disputes and at times that ends in violence (if it is under aspect of Saturn from an adverse house or Mercury is under malefic affliction and weak in the chart. We know the duality of Mercury and its impressionable nature). Mars in Scorpio gives the tendency to be secretive and the Scorpio has a sting in its tail. > > We do not know the placement of other rulers and their compound relationships. All the more, dasha sequence (the chronological age at one which enjoys the dasha of Mars, how Moon has handed over the charge to him and how Rahu is going to take the charge from him) and the transit one enjoys is of paramount importance for getting the stipulated results for a given planet. > > It depends on the strength and the placement of Mercury, which rules the Ascendant and the house of Karma, to decide how this powerful energy of Mars is to be utilized. > > Let me stop here :-). > > With regards, > Sivaprakasam > > jyotish-vidya , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > Dear Siva avarugal, > > this is interesting since my mother falls in the category!!. > > Most of what you wrote tally and what did not tally i highlight and like > > to discuss. > > //this indicates the native is quarrelsome and will have difference of > > opinion with his relatives and father.// > > My mother likes her father and siblings more than any body in this > > world!!.Ofcourse she is the eldest living!!. > > // The native can even become violent if other factors are supporting. > > // > > Very rare4sure!!. > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Dear Wendyji and Friends.  Thanks friends for an informative discussion.  One of the aspects that remains in my mind is how is dosha of having the karaka placed in the signifying house altered in case the said planet owns that particular sign.  Like that of Mars in 3rd is considered bad for sibling relations as Mars is the karaka for brothers and 3rd house represents younger sibling. Now what is the impact of such a mars being in Aries or scorpio  Also a similar case can be considered for Venus in 7th. What happens when it is 7th in Taurus or Libra  What about Jupiter in 5th house ( the house of children) in Sagi or Pisces.  The same can be said about kendradhipati dosha where in say for Pisces lagna, mercury has the dosa being a benefic and lording kendras. What is the impact if such a mercury   Does the dosa get reduced in such an event or increases now that mercury has become powerful.   Warm Regards  Nilesh --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Sivaprakasam <sivaprakasamkpm wrote: Sivaprakasam <sivaprakasamkpm Re: couple of queries jyotish-vidya Friday, 12 March, 2010, 10:04 AM  Namaste Gopi Garu, What I wrote about Mars in Scorpio, without knowing other placements, was absolutely general in nature. Mars is the planet which creates difference of opinion. Mars is powerful in his own sign. It is placed in 3rd house which is the 2nd house from 2nd house of speech. Mars from Scorpio would aspect 6th house of Aquarius (disputes and difference of opinion) and 9th house of Taurus (father) and 10th house of Gemini (the profession). Mars as 8th lord denotes ancestral property and he represents build property. When it is placed in Scorpio, he moves from Aries to 8th house obstacles. From the Ascendant that becomes the 3rd house of desire and mental inclinations. He is placed in the 12th house of loss from 4th house of property and the peace of mind. A powerful Mars wishes his acquaintances or subordinates or his siblings to work hard as he is and becomes over-critical, often making sarcastic remarks that leads to quarrels and disputes and at times that ends in violence (if it is under aspect of Saturn from an adverse house or Mercury is under malefic affliction and weak in the chart. We know the duality of Mercury and its impressionable nature). Mars in Scorpio gives the tendency to be secretive and the Scorpio has a sting in its tail. We do not know the placement of other rulers and their compound relationships. All the more, dasha sequence (the chronological age at one which enjoys the dasha of Mars, how Moon has handed over the charge to him and how Rahu is going to take the charge from him) and the transit one enjoys is of paramount importance for getting the stipulated results for a given planet. It depends on the strength and the placement of Mercury, which rules the Ascendant and the house of Karma, to decide how this powerful energy of Mars is to be utilized. Let me stop here :-). With regards, Sivaprakasam jyotish-vidya, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Siva avarugal, > this is interesting since my mother falls in the category!!. > Most of what you wrote tally and what did not tally i highlight and like > to discuss. > //this indicates the native is quarrelsome and will have difference of > opinion with his relatives and father.// > My mother likes her father and siblings more than any body in this > world!!.Ofcourse she is the eldest living!!. > // The native can even become violent if other factors are supporting. > // > Very rare4sure!!. > Love and regards, > gopi. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Dear Nilesh, Perhaps you should consider it this way... the energies of a particular house should be linked to the energies of another house so that they have an outlet through which to manifest. When the karaka is in the house of that karaka, the significations have reduced *outlets* through which to manifest, and they therefore become more challenged. What do you think of this analogy? It is something like electrical current requiring an outlet for it to flow properly. Yours, Vic DiCara On 2010/03/13, at 16:00, nilesh joshi wrote: > Dear Wendyji and Friends. > > Thanks friends for an informative discussion. > > One of the aspects that remains in my mind is how is dosha of having the karaka placed in the signifying house altered in case the said planet owns that particular sign. > > Like that of Mars in 3rd is considered bad for sibling relations as Mars is the karaka for brothers and 3rd house represents younger sibling. Now what is the impact of such a mars being in Aries or scorpio > > Also a similar case can be considered for Venus in 7th. What happens when it is 7th in Taurus or Libra > > What about Jupiter in 5th house ( the house of children) in Sagi or Pisces. > > The same can be said about kendradhipati dosha where in say for Pisces lagna, mercury has the dosa being a benefic and lording kendras. What is the impact if such a mercury > > > Does the dosa get reduced in such an event or increases now that mercury has become powerful. > > > Warm Regards > > Nilesh > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Sivaprakasam <sivaprakasamkpm wrote: > > Sivaprakasam <sivaprakasamkpm > Re: couple of queries > jyotish-vidya > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 10:04 AM > > > > Namaste Gopi Garu, > > What I wrote about Mars in Scorpio, without knowing other placements, was absolutely general in nature. Mars is the planet which creates difference of opinion. Mars is powerful in his own sign. It is placed in 3rd house which is the 2nd house from 2nd house of speech. Mars from Scorpio would aspect 6th house of Aquarius (disputes and difference of opinion) and 9th house of Taurus (father) and 10th house of Gemini (the profession). Mars as 8th lord denotes ancestral property and he represents build property. When it is placed in Scorpio, he moves from Aries to 8th house obstacles. From the Ascendant that becomes the 3rd house of desire and mental inclinations. He is placed in the 12th house of loss from 4th house of property and the peace of mind. > > A powerful Mars wishes his acquaintances or subordinates or his siblings to work hard as he is and becomes over-critical, often making sarcastic remarks that leads to quarrels and disputes and at times that ends in violence (if it is under aspect of Saturn from an adverse house or Mercury is under malefic affliction and weak in the chart. We know the duality of Mercury and its impressionable nature). Mars in Scorpio gives the tendency to be secretive and the Scorpio has a sting in its tail. > > We do not know the placement of other rulers and their compound relationships. All the more, dasha sequence (the chronological age at one which enjoys the dasha of Mars, how Moon has handed over the charge to him and how Rahu is going to take the charge from him) and the transit one enjoys is of paramount importance for getting the stipulated results for a given planet. > > It depends on the strength and the placement of Mercury, which rules the Ascendant and the house of Karma, to decide how this powerful energy of Mars is to be utilized. > > Let me stop here :-). > > With regards, > Sivaprakasam > > jyotish-vidya, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@. ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Siva avarugal, > > this is interesting since my mother falls in the category!!. > > Most of what you wrote tally and what did not tally i highlight and like > > to discuss. > > //this indicates the native is quarrelsome and will have difference of > > opinion with his relatives and father.// > > My mother likes her father and siblings more than any body in this > > world!!.Ofcourse she is the eldest living!!. > > // The native can even become violent if other factors are supporting. > > // > > Very rare4sure!!. > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Dear Mrs Wendy Nilesh and Members, 'Karakao Bhava Nashaha " is the adage.In 3rd, Mars as karak may have impact.Being a malefic mars in shaja bahva may lead to difference in opinions. As far as Aries,being 1st in zodiac,it is give as lord and makes them to be determined,courages and ambitious. in scorpio as lord it may create hesitation may not be help in relationships but makes them diplomatic and successful.Also may give some landed property.Being 8th health concerns might be there. For first and eighth bahvas ,mars is not karak. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Sat, 3/13/10, nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 wrote: nilesh joshi <niljoshi27 Re: Re: couple of queries jyotish-vidya Saturday, March 13, 2010, 2:00 AM  Dear Wendyji and Friends.  Thanks friends for an informative discussion.  One of the aspects that remains in my mind is how is dosha of having the karaka placed in the signifying house altered in case the said planet owns that particular sign.  Like that of Mars in 3rd is considered bad for sibling relations as Mars is the karaka for brothers and 3rd house represents younger sibling. Now what is the impact of such a mars being in Aries or scorpio  Also a similar case can be considered for Venus in 7th. What happens when it is 7th in Taurus or Libra  What about Jupiter in 5th house ( the house of children) in Sagi or Pisces.  The same can be said about kendradhipati dosha where in say for Pisces lagna, mercury has the dosa being a benefic and lording kendras. What is the impact if such a mercury   Does the dosa get reduced in such an event or increases now that mercury has become powerful.   Warm Regards  Nilesh --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Sivaprakasam <sivaprakasamkpm@ > wrote: Sivaprakasam <sivaprakasamkpm@ > Re: couple of queries jyotish-vidya Friday, 12 March, 2010, 10:04 AM  Namaste Gopi Garu, What I wrote about Mars in Scorpio, without knowing other placements, was absolutely general in nature. Mars is the planet which creates difference of opinion. Mars is powerful in his own sign. It is placed in 3rd house which is the 2nd house from 2nd house of speech. Mars from Scorpio would aspect 6th house of Aquarius (disputes and difference of opinion) and 9th house of Taurus (father) and 10th house of Gemini (the profession). Mars as 8th lord denotes ancestral property and he represents build property. When it is placed in Scorpio, he moves from Aries to 8th house obstacles. From the Ascendant that becomes the 3rd house of desire and mental inclinations. He is placed in the 12th house of loss from 4th house of property and the peace of mind. A powerful Mars wishes his acquaintances or subordinates or his siblings to work hard as he is and becomes over-critical, often making sarcastic remarks that leads to quarrels and disputes and at times that ends in violence (if it is under aspect of Saturn from an adverse house or Mercury is under malefic affliction and weak in the chart. We know the duality of Mercury and its impressionable nature). Mars in Scorpio gives the tendency to be secretive and the Scorpio has a sting in its tail. We do not know the placement of other rulers and their compound relationships. All the more, dasha sequence (the chronological age at one which enjoys the dasha of Mars, how Moon has handed over the charge to him and how Rahu is going to take the charge from him) and the transit one enjoys is of paramount importance for getting the stipulated results for a given planet. It depends on the strength and the placement of Mercury, which rules the Ascendant and the house of Karma, to decide how this powerful energy of Mars is to be utilized. Let me stop here :-). With regards, Sivaprakasam jyotish-vidya, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Siva avarugal, > this is interesting since my mother falls in the category!!. > Most of what you wrote tally and what did not tally i highlight and like > to discuss. > //this indicates the native is quarrelsome and will have difference of > opinion with his relatives and father.// > My mother likes her father and siblings more than any body in this > world!!.Ofcourse she is the eldest living!!. > // The native can even become violent if other factors are supporting. > // > Very rare4sure!!. > Love and regards, > gopi. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Namaste friends, A house (bhava) controls a number of human experiences. If the house is disposed with enough strength, the significations are going to manifest favorably. We know that every house has its Karaka assigned. If the ruler of the house and the Karaka assigned for the said house has any connection, the house in question gets its vitality to manifest favorably. Sun (health) is the Karaka for Ascendant. If Mars (for Aries Ascendant) joins the Sun, then one can safely conclude the Native is going to enjoy a good health. (For a moment forget the lordships in the chart). Let us assume this conjunction takes place in Ascendant itself, Mars, the Ascendant ruler is in Lagna and Sun the karaka for health is placed in Lagna, that does not mean Sun is going to afflict the health of the native since Ascendant itself represents health in general. At the same time, we should consider the state of Sun here. Sun is exalted. Sun becomes powerful. Sun is pitta. Aries is a fiery sign (pitta). Mars is in his own house. He becomes powerful being in his own house. He represents pitta. The Ascendant represents body. Now the conclusion could be the Native would be of fiery in nature and possess the humor - pitta - in abundance. Anything in abundance itself is an affliction. This gives a clue that the native tends to be prone to acidity one of the normal ailments. Mercury is the 3rd lord for Aries Ascendant who represents younger brothers. If he joins this combination of Sun and Mars in Ascendant, the Native is going to enjoy the happiness from his younger siblings since Mars is the karaka for younger siblings. So far everything goes nicely to our liking. Now take the lordship of 6th lord Mercury (Vata). 6th lord moves to Ascendant. He is afflicting Lagna Lord. He is afflicting Sun the karaka for health. He is afflicting the Lagna. He is a functional malefic as he rules both malefic houses with reference to Aries Lagna the 3rd and 6th respectively. Now this situation is to be balanced by a strong benefic influence. So in order to avoid multiple afflictions on any particular signification, it is desirable if the karaka is not placed in the bhava itself. Now synthesize the facts that Mars holds 8th house also and one of the significations of 8th house is chronic diseases, 6th lord Mercury - vata humor - erratic digestion and appetite - and 8th lord placed in Ascendant that means chronic acidity. (Health, body and disease or discomforts are interrelated). It is always profitable, if we take one signification at a time, analyze, and synthesize and come to a conclusion. Two cents from my side. With regards, Sivaprakasam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Beautiful explanation of how to read a chart! Regards, Krishna On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Sivaprakasam <sivaprakasamkpmwrote: > > > Namaste friends, > > A house (bhava) controls a number of human experiences. If the house is > disposed with enough strength, the significations are going to manifest > favorably. We know that every house has its Karaka assigned. If the ruler of > the house and the Karaka assigned for the said house has any connection, the > house in question gets its vitality to manifest favorably. > > Sun (health) is the Karaka for Ascendant. If Mars (for Aries Ascendant) > joins the Sun, then one can safely conclude the Native is going to enjoy a > good health. (For a moment forget the lordships in the chart). Let us assume > this conjunction takes place in Ascendant itself, Mars, the Ascendant ruler > is in Lagna and Sun the karaka for health is placed in Lagna, that does not > mean Sun is going to afflict the health of the native since Ascendant itself > represents health in general. > > At the same time, we should consider the state of Sun here. Sun is exalted. > Sun becomes powerful. Sun is pitta. Aries is a fiery sign (pitta). Mars is > in his own house. He becomes powerful being in his own house. He represents > pitta. The Ascendant represents body. Now the conclusion could be the Native > would be of fiery in nature and possess the humor - pitta - in abundance. > Anything in abundance itself is an affliction. This gives a clue that the > native tends to be prone to acidity one of the normal ailments. > > Mercury is the 3rd lord for Aries Ascendant who represents younger > brothers. If he joins this combination of Sun and Mars in Ascendant, the > Native is going to enjoy the happiness from his younger siblings since Mars > is the karaka for younger siblings. So far everything goes nicely to our > liking. Now take the lordship of 6th lord Mercury (Vata). 6th lord moves to > Ascendant. He is afflicting Lagna Lord. He is afflicting Sun the karaka for > health. He is afflicting the Lagna. He is a functional malefic as he rules > both malefic houses with reference to Aries Lagna the 3rd and 6th > respectively. Now this situation is to be balanced by a strong benefic > influence. So in order to avoid multiple afflictions on any particular > signification, it is desirable if the karaka is not placed in the bhava > itself. > > Now synthesize the facts that Mars holds 8th house also and one of the > significations of 8th house is chronic diseases, 6th lord Mercury - vata > humor - erratic digestion and appetite - and 8th lord placed in Ascendant > that means chronic acidity. (Health, body and disease or discomforts are > interrelated). > > It is always profitable, if we take one signification at a time, analyze, > and synthesize and come to a conclusion. > > Two cents from my side. > > With regards, > Sivaprakasam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Dear Sivaprakasam and All, If I might add my thoughts on this... In regards to Prikriti only. ///So far everything goes nicely to our liking. Now take the lordship of 6th lord Mercury (Vata). 6th lord moves to Ascendant. He is afflicting Lagna Lord. He is afflicting Sun the karaka for health. He is afflicting the Lagna./// As we know one's " Prikriti " (constitutional body type) is seen from lagna whilst a chronic imbalance ( " Vrikriti " ) can develop when planets get afflicted in 8th house of vulnerability. I personally would judge the (above) instance differently when assessing the prikriti itself, i.e. Mercury, a tridosha planet, expressing all three doshas equally could perhaps be described as being neutral in this regard. His F/M status being a separate issue in regards to determining the Prikriti. The Rasi's are relevant (in regards to Prikriti) when lagnesh or lagnakaraka is placed therein, i.e. Mars, for Aries lagna, placed in 6th (Virgo) would add the influence of Vata to an obvious Pitta constitution. So let's look at the two possibilities i.e: 1) Sun (Pitta) conjunct Mars (Pitta) occupying Aries lagna (Pitta) along with Mercury (tridosha) I would judge the Prikriti as Pitta. Bear in mind that Mercury is influenced greatly by association/placement etc.. 2) Sun (Pitta) in Aries lagna (Pitta) along with Mercury (tridosha) whilst lagnesh Mars occupies Virgo (Vata) in 6th. I would judge the prikriti as Pitta/Vata. Some health problems likely, of course, with exchange of 1st/6th lords. It goes without saying that the aspect of other planets (to lagna or lagnesh) would also add their influence. The judgment of this can be a very delicate matter...balancing one dosha with another. During my early years of study I had the opportunity of consulting two esteemed (Maharishi) jyotish pandits and each gave different judgments in regards to my Prikriti. The first declared Vata/Pitta, the second declared Vata/Kapha with a Pitta Vrikriti. The second judgment I'm in agreement with. We also understand that the doshas can shift considerably depending on current influences i.e. dasas/transits, seasons, time of day, and even our age. Kapha is most strong in the very young, Pitta is strongest during adolescence, whilst Vata increases in old age. Kapha is strongest during Spring-Early Summer, Pitta Mid Summer-Early Autumn, and Vata is strongest during the Late Autumn-Winter months. PS: As per my teaching, both Rahu and Ketu are classified as Vata. This is affirmed in BPHS Ch.3 **30. Rahu has smoky appearance with a blue-mix physique. He resides in forests and is horrible. He is windy in temperament and is intelligent. Ketu is akin to Rahu.** Best Wishes Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com =================== Sivaprakasam Saturday, March 13, 2010 11:45 PM jyotish-vidya Re: couple of queries Namaste friends, A house (bhava) controls a number of human experiences. If the house is disposed with enough strength, the significations are going to manifest favorably. We know that every house has its Karaka assigned. If the ruler of the house and the Karaka assigned for the said house has any connection, the house in question gets its vitality to manifest favorably. Sun (health) is the Karaka for Ascendant. If Mars (for Aries Ascendant) joins the Sun, then one can safely conclude the Native is going to enjoy a good health. (For a moment forget the lordships in the chart). Let us assume this conjunction takes place in Ascendant itself, Mars, the Ascendant ruler is in Lagna and Sun the karaka for health is placed in Lagna, that does not mean Sun is going to afflict the health of the native since Ascendant itself represents health in general. At the same time, we should consider the state of Sun here. Sun is exalted. Sun becomes powerful. Sun is pitta. Aries is a fiery sign (pitta). Mars is in his own house. He becomes powerful being in his own house. He represents pitta. The Ascendant represents body. Now the conclusion could be the Native would be of fiery in nature and possess the humor - pitta - in abundance. Anything in abundance itself is an affliction. This gives a clue that the native tends to be prone to acidity one of the normal ailments. Mercury is the 3rd lord for Aries Ascendant who represents younger brothers. If he joins this combination of Sun and Mars in Ascendant, the Native is going to enjoy the happiness from his younger siblings since Mars is the karaka for younger siblings. So far everything goes nicely to our liking. Now take the lordship of 6th lord Mercury (Vata). 6th lord moves to Ascendant. He is afflicting Lagna Lord. He is afflicting Sun the karaka for health. He is afflicting the Lagna. He is a functional malefic as he rules both malefic houses with reference to Aries Lagna the 3rd and 6th respectively. Now this situation is to be balanced by a strong benefic influence. So in order to avoid multiple afflictions on any particular signification, it is desirable if the karaka is not placed in the bhava itself. Now synthesize the facts that Mars holds 8th house also and one of the significations of 8th house is chronic diseases, 6th lord Mercury - vata humor - erratic digestion and appetite - and 8th lord placed in Ascendant that means chronic acidity. (Health, body and disease or discomforts are interrelated). It is always profitable, if we take one signification at a time, analyze, and synthesize and come to a conclusion. Two cents from my side. With regards, Sivaprakasam __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4942 (20100313) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Namaste Wendy Ji, >1) Sun (Pitta) conjunct Mars (Pitta) occupying Aries lagna (Pitta) along with Mercury (tridosha) I would judge the Prikriti as Pitta. Bear in mind that Mercury is influenced greatly by association/placement etc..> Thanks for your comments. I agree with you that Mercury is to behave as per his associations/placement. What about the other two humors that Mercury possess? His nature is duality. Will he show only the humor i.e. pitta. Do you mean to say that he (Mercury) will shed the other two humors i.e. vata and kapha completely/entirely? Though you have already given your opinion clearly that the Prikriti would be Pitta in this case, still I ask the above question for the sake of more clarity... With regards, Sivaprakasam =============== jyotish-vidya , " Mrs.Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Sivaprakasam and All, > > If I might add my thoughts on this... In regards to Prikriti only. > > ///So far everything goes nicely to our liking. Now take the lordship of 6th lord Mercury (Vata). 6th lord moves to Ascendant. He is afflicting Lagna Lord. He is afflicting Sun the karaka for health. He is afflicting the Lagna./// > > As we know one's " Prikriti " (constitutional body type) is seen from lagna whilst a chronic imbalance ( " Vrikriti " ) can develop when planets get afflicted in 8th house of vulnerability. I personally would judge the (above) instance differently when assessing the prikriti itself, i.e. Mercury, a tridosha planet, expressing all three doshas equally could perhaps be described as being neutral in this regard. His F/M status being a separate issue in regards to determining the Prikriti. > > The Rasi's are relevant (in regards to Prikriti) when lagnesh or lagnakaraka is placed therein, i.e. Mars, for Aries lagna, placed in 6th (Virgo) would add the influence of Vata to an obvious Pitta constitution. So let's look at the two possibilities i.e: > > 1) Sun (Pitta) conjunct Mars (Pitta) occupying Aries lagna (Pitta) along with Mercury (tridosha) I would judge the Prikriti as Pitta. Bear in mind that Mercury is influenced greatly by association/placement etc.. > > 2) Sun (Pitta) in Aries lagna (Pitta) along with Mercury (tridosha) whilst lagnesh Mars occupies Virgo (Vata) in 6th. I would judge the prikriti as Pitta/Vata. > Some health problems likely, of course, with exchange of 1st/6th lords. > > It goes without saying that the aspect of other planets (to lagna or lagnesh) would also add their influence. > > The judgment of this can be a very delicate matter...balancing one dosha with another. During my early years of study I had the opportunity of consulting two esteemed (Maharishi) jyotish pandits and each gave different judgments in regards to my Prikriti. The first declared Vata/Pitta, the second declared Vata/Kapha with a Pitta Vrikriti. The second judgment I'm in agreement with. > > We also understand that the doshas can shift considerably depending on current influences i.e. dasas/transits, seasons, time of day, and even our age. Kapha is most strong in the very young, Pitta is strongest during adolescence, whilst Vata increases in old age. Kapha is strongest during Spring-Early Summer, Pitta Mid Summer-Early Autumn, and Vata is strongest during the Late Autumn-Winter months. > > PS: As per my teaching, both Rahu and Ketu are classified as Vata. This is affirmed in BPHS Ch.3 > > **30. Rahu has smoky appearance with a blue-mix physique. He resides in forests and is horrible. He is windy in temperament and is intelligent. Ketu is akin to Rahu.** > > Best Wishes > Mrs.Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > =================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Dear Sivaprakasam Ji Very good presentation indeed ! Kindly relate these to the Strength of planets,nakshatras of planets [here in this case nakshatrtas of Me,Su and Ma],Dasha-antardasha,Transit and Varshakundali. This will make the entire reading very very knowledgeable and at least I will archive this as it will give me many answers to my earlier post. Kudos to your beautiful way of writing also. Regards Om jyotish-vidya , " Sivaprakasam " <sivaprakasamkpm wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > A house (bhava) controls a number of human experiences. If the house is disposed with enough strength, the significations are going to manifest favorably. We know that every house has its Karaka assigned. If the ruler of the house and the Karaka assigned for the said house has any connection, the house in question gets its vitality to manifest favorably. > > Sun (health) is the Karaka for Ascendant. If Mars (for Aries Ascendant) joins the Sun, then one can safely conclude the Native is going to enjoy a good health. (For a moment forget the lordships in the chart). Let us assume this conjunction takes place in Ascendant itself, Mars, the Ascendant ruler is in Lagna and Sun the karaka for health is placed in Lagna, that does not mean Sun is going to afflict the health of the native since Ascendant itself represents health in general. > > At the same time, we should consider the state of Sun here. Sun is exalted. Sun becomes powerful. Sun is pitta. Aries is a fiery sign (pitta). Mars is in his own house. He becomes powerful being in his own house. He represents pitta. The Ascendant represents body. Now the conclusion could be the Native would be of fiery in nature and possess the humor - pitta - in abundance. Anything in abundance itself is an affliction. This gives a clue that the native tends to be prone to acidity one of the normal ailments. > > Mercury is the 3rd lord for Aries Ascendant who represents younger brothers. If he joins this combination of Sun and Mars in Ascendant, the Native is going to enjoy the happiness from his younger siblings since Mars is the karaka for younger siblings. So far everything goes nicely to our liking. Now take the lordship of 6th lord Mercury (Vata). 6th lord moves to Ascendant. He is afflicting Lagna Lord. He is afflicting Sun the karaka for health. He is afflicting the Lagna. He is a functional malefic as he rules both malefic houses with reference to Aries Lagna the 3rd and 6th respectively. Now this situation is to be balanced by a strong benefic influence. So in order to avoid multiple afflictions on any particular signification, it is desirable if the karaka is not placed in the bhava itself. > > Now synthesize the facts that Mars holds 8th house also and one of the significations of 8th house is chronic diseases, 6th lord Mercury - vata humor - erratic digestion and appetite - and 8th lord placed in Ascendant that means chronic acidity. (Health, body and disease or discomforts are interrelated). > > It is always profitable, if we take one signification at a time, analyze, and synthesize and come to a conclusion. > > Two cents from my side. > > With regards, > Sivaprakasam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 You are welcome Krishna Ji. With regards, Sivaprakasam jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: > > Beautiful explanation of how to read a chart! > > Regards, > Krishna > > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Sivaprakasam <sivaprakasamkpmwrote: > > > > > > > Namaste friends, > > > > A house (bhava) controls a number of human experiences. If the house is > > disposed with enough strength, the significations are going to manifest > > favorably. We know that every house has its Karaka assigned. If the ruler of > > the house and the Karaka assigned for the said house has any connection, the > > house in question gets its vitality to manifest favorably. > > > > Sun (health) is the Karaka for Ascendant. If Mars (for Aries Ascendant) > > joins the Sun, then one can safely conclude the Native is going to enjoy a > > good health. (For a moment forget the lordships in the chart). Let us assume > > this conjunction takes place in Ascendant itself, Mars, the Ascendant ruler > > is in Lagna and Sun the karaka for health is placed in Lagna, that does not > > mean Sun is going to afflict the health of the native since Ascendant itself > > represents health in general. > > > > At the same time, we should consider the state of Sun here. Sun is exalted. > > Sun becomes powerful. Sun is pitta. Aries is a fiery sign (pitta). Mars is > > in his own house. He becomes powerful being in his own house. He represents > > pitta. The Ascendant represents body. Now the conclusion could be the Native > > would be of fiery in nature and possess the humor - pitta - in abundance. > > Anything in abundance itself is an affliction. This gives a clue that the > > native tends to be prone to acidity one of the normal ailments. > > > > Mercury is the 3rd lord for Aries Ascendant who represents younger > > brothers. If he joins this combination of Sun and Mars in Ascendant, the > > Native is going to enjoy the happiness from his younger siblings since Mars > > is the karaka for younger siblings. So far everything goes nicely to our > > liking. Now take the lordship of 6th lord Mercury (Vata). 6th lord moves to > > Ascendant. He is afflicting Lagna Lord. He is afflicting Sun the karaka for > > health. He is afflicting the Lagna. He is a functional malefic as he rules > > both malefic houses with reference to Aries Lagna the 3rd and 6th > > respectively. Now this situation is to be balanced by a strong benefic > > influence. So in order to avoid multiple afflictions on any particular > > signification, it is desirable if the karaka is not placed in the bhava > > itself. > > > > Now synthesize the facts that Mars holds 8th house also and one of the > > significations of 8th house is chronic diseases, 6th lord Mercury - vata > > humor - erratic digestion and appetite - and 8th lord placed in Ascendant > > that means chronic acidity. (Health, body and disease or discomforts are > > interrelated). > > > > It is always profitable, if we take one signification at a time, analyze, > > and synthesize and come to a conclusion. > > > > Two cents from my side. > > > > With regards, > > Sivaprakasam > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Dear Sivaprakasam, ///Will he show only the humor i.e. pitta. Do you mean to say that he (Mercury) will shed the other two humors i.e. vata and kapha completely/entirely?/// Certainly, as Mercury possesses all three humors, we can say that his influence in a strong Pitta environment is more or less neutral. However, it's precisely because of this environment and the adaptable nature of Mercury that we can, in my opinion, safely assume that Pitta will prevail. To take this further let's consider the dictum that Jupiter aspecting/occupying lagna from a water sign can indicate a tendency to gain weight. This, of course, is due to the fact that both Jupiter and the water signs express the kapha dosha. We see then that sign placement is important... Without doubt this can also be a controversial topic and even the experts can disagree. Some, for instance, consider nakshatra to be more important. I'm completely open to discussion on this and welcome others thoughts. Best Wishes Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com =================== Sivaprakasam Sunday, March 14, 2010 2:25 PM jyotish-vidya Re: couple of queries Namaste Wendy Ji, >1) Sun (Pitta) conjunct Mars (Pitta) occupying Aries lagna (Pitta) along with Mercury (tridosha) I would judge the Prikriti as Pitta. Bear in mind that Mercury is influenced greatly by association/placement etc..> Thanks for your comments. I agree with you that Mercury is to behave as per his associations/placement. What about the other two humors that Mercury possess? His nature is duality. Will he show only the humor i.e. pitta. Do you mean to say that he (Mercury) will shed the other two humors i.e. vata and kapha completely/entirely? Though you have already given your opinion clearly that the Prikriti would be Pitta in this case, still I ask the above question for the sake of more clarity... With regards, Sivaprakasam =============== __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4942 (20100313) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Dear Sivaprakasham, You wrote > So in order to avoid multiple afflictions on any particular signification, it is desirable if the karaka is not placed in the bhava itself. This is thoughtful. When considering it I arrive at the following question. The same should then be true of the bhavesh placed in the bhava - but we do not hear that svakshetri planets are destructive. How do you respond to this concern? Thank you, Vic DiCara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Dear Mrs. Wendy You wrote: > We also understand that the doshas can shift considerably depending on current influences i.e. dasas/transits, seasons, time of day, and even our age. Kapha is most strong in the very young, Pitta is strongest during adolescence, whilst Vata increases in old age. Kapha is strongest during Spring-Early Summer, Pitta Mid Summer-Early Autumn, and Vata is strongest during the Late Autumn-Winter months. > I am reading an interesting book, Ayurvedi Beauty Care. Page 3 has a different opinion on this. (You can read page 3 and other pages at Google Books: http://books.google.co.jp/books?id=qKTGc8_Lyu4C & printsec=frontcover & dq=ayurvedic\ +beauty+care & source=bl & ots=ct0YlcXKos & sig=k6HtVYaLjVpl0VcfGVYNVFeE4gw & hl=ja & ei=o\ tKcS4OHMNCgkQXHmKzXAQ & sa=X & oi=book_result & ct=result & resnum=3 & ved=0CBUQ6AEwAg#v=o\ nepage & q= & f=false ) The opinion there is that prakriti never changes, but the affects of aging, etc which you described create vikrutis which encourage health issues. What is your thought here? It seems to match, perhaps, the fact that the birth chart (which defines prakriti) does not ever change. Yours, Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Dear Vic, Of course the prikriti at birth doesn't change, just as lagna doesn't change. However there are a multitude of factors that can (and do) result in an excess of a certain dosha i.e. wrong diet, irregular habits (insomnia), unresolved stress, anger, grief and so forth. We also understand (I hope) how changing dasa/transit patterns can influence lagna considerably even though lagna itself doesn't ever change... This is just common-sense, surely? I have a set of tapes and CDs (Gandharva Veda) that can be played at certain times of the day to restore the natural balance within the environment, which most certainly can be disturbed. Many of us unfortunately live and/or work in a most inharmonious environment. A temporary excess (or imbalance) is picked up by the Vaidya during a pulse diagnosis which reveals both the prikriti and any imbalance present at that time... Not being a Vaidya I can't say if both temporary and chronic imbalance can be determined during an initial examination. I suppose it depends very much on the skill/experience of the Vaidya. As for recommended reading, it would be a great help if you could cut/paste the portions that are relevant to the discussion as, I for one, really don't have a lot of time to go through websites to find the section you refer to. Best Wishes Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com =================== Vic DiCara Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:51 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Re: couple of queries Dear Mrs. Wendy You wrote: > We also understand that the doshas can shift considerably depending on current influences i.e. dasas/transits, seasons, time of day, and even our age. Kapha is most strong in the very young, Pitta is strongest during adolescence, whilst Vata increases in old age. Kapha is strongest during Spring-Early Summer, Pitta Mid Summer-Early Autumn, and Vata is strongest during the Late Autumn-Winter months. > I am reading an interesting book, Ayurvedi Beauty Care. Page 3 has a different opinion on this. (You can read page 3 and other pages at Google Books: http://books.google.co.jp/books?id=qKTGc8_Lyu4C & printsec=frontcover & dq=ayurvedic\ +beauty+care & source=bl & ots=ct0YlcXKos & sig=k6HtVYaLjVpl0VcfGVYNVFeE4gw & hl=ja & ei=o\ tKcS4OHMNCgkQXHmKzXAQ & sa=X & oi=book_result & ct=result & resnum=3 & ved=0CBUQ6AEwAg#v=o\ nepage & q= & f=false ) The opinion there is that prakriti never changes, but the affects of aging, etc which you described create vikrutis which encourage health issues. What is your thought here? It seems to match, perhaps, the fact that the birth chart (which defines prakriti) does not ever change. Yours, Vic __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4943 (20100314) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Dear Mrs. Wendy, > Of course the prikriti at birth doesn't change, just as lagna doesn't change. > Ah! I misunderstood your initial post. You said the doshas change in various circumstances. I misread that to mean that prakriti changes, which I thought was odd. Thanks for clarifying. Yours, Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Namaste Vic Ji, Yes. I agree with you. A planet sitting in its own house is going to protect the interests of his house. He is not detrimental to the significations of that Bhava so long as he is not influenced by any other force in either way i.e. positively or negatively. When a human experience is under examination, sages instructed us to consider the Bhava, Bhavesh and Bhavakaraka. If there is no planet in a Bhava then it is going to manifest in its original form/in a normal manner as it should manifest since there is no influence in either way. It is good. At least the bhava is saved - say 30 per cent. Say if a bhava and bhavesh both are adversely influenced (as in the case of bhavesh placed in the bhava itself) then the signification lost by two counts - say 60 per cent. Hence the sages could have thought bhava karaka may not be placed in the bhava itself. At the least bhavakaraka can take care of a signfication - say 30 per cent again. I think the " aspects " by planets can take care of the situation to some extent. Let us consider first the 7th aspect, since all planets can aspect the seventh house from where they are placed. For a moment let us forget the special aspects of planets and nodes. Aries rising and Mars is placed in Libra. Bhava is protected. But here Mars moves to 180 degrees away from his house. A planet sits in its own house and protects the house is more stronger as compared to the situation of aspecting from 7th house. When a planet goes 180 degrees away from his house certainly it should feel uncomfortable in the sign of somebody else. His house is ascendant and 7th from there is descendant. Still it protects his house and the signification. Here the condition of dispositor comes into play and how that planet is mutually placed from Mars and their compound relationship in a chart. He is to depend on somebody else to protect his house. Here in this situation, if Mars is getting afflicted by any way, then the bhavesh is afflicted, not the bhava and the bhava karaka directly. Let us assume Mars moves to Virgo, from there Mars can aspect his house (8th aspect). Here the position is that if a bhavesh moves to 6th, 8th and 12th house from his house, the bhava loses its significance to a certain extent, if not totally. Here Ascendant lord Mars aspecting his house with the properties of 6th and connecting the lagna with 12th house also. Mars moving to 6th per se is not adverse so long as he is not further afflicted. Say Mars moves to Capricorn, still he can aspect his own house from there but his dignity itself is questionable now. (Of course he gets digbala there). Hence the subsequent dictum comes to us that if a bhava is aspected or associated with natural benefics then the bhava is protected. With regards, Sivaprakasam Re: Re: couple of queries Dear Sivaprakasham, You wrote > So in order to avoid multiple afflictions on any particular signification, it is desirable if the karaka is not placed in the bhava itself. This is thoughtful. When considering it I arrive at the following question. The same should then be true of the bhavesh placed in the bhava - but we do not hear that svakshetri planets are destructive. How do you respond to this concern? Thank you, Vic DiCara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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