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A question for any and all:

 

In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each rashi, EXCEPT

Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What is the triguna of

these?

 

Thank you,

Vic DiCara

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Dear Vic,

 

Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

 

Best Wishes

Mrs.Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

===================

 

 

 

Vic DiCara

Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

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Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

 

 

 

A question for any and all:

 

In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each rashi, EXCEPT

Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What is the triguna of

these?

 

Thank you,

Vic DiCara

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

Thank you. I was thinking that as well. Does this have a source? I am satisfied

to go with it, since you are learned and it confirms my own instinct, but if

there is a source I would like to know it as well.

 

Thanks so much,

Vic

 

On 2010/03/18, at 17:35, Mrs.Wendy wrote:

 

> Dear Vic,

>

> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

>

> Best Wishes

> Mrs.Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ===================

>

> Vic DiCara

> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

> jyotish-vidya

> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>

> A question for any and all:

>

> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each rashi, EXCEPT

Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What is the triguna of

these?

>

> Thank you,

> Vic DiCara

>

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Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

Sun, Moon and Jupiter are Satvik planets and so are the signs owned by them.

Venus is Rajasik and so are the signs owned by it.

Saturn is Tamasik and so are the signs owned by it.

 

But, such a consistency is not seen for Mercury and Mars. Mercury is a

Rajasik planet while the signs owned by it are both Tamasik. Similarly Mars

is Tamasik while Aries is said to be Rajasik and Scorpio to be Satvik. I am

not able to comprehend this deviation for Mercury and Mars. Please shed some

light on this.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mrs.Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

>

>

> Dear Vic,

>

> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

>

> Best Wishes

> Mrs.Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ===================

>

> Vic DiCara

> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>

> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>

>

> A question for any and all:

>

> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each rashi,

> EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What is the

> triguna of these?

>

> Thank you,

> Vic DiCara

>

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Dear Vic,,

 

This is from the " Maharishi Jyotish " course. (Theme 1-Lesson 4; Rashi and

Physiology). I have several flyers (from the course) which I've had

laminated and keep close by me for easy reference.

 

Sorry I can't point you to another reference off-hand. Perhaps another

member can help in this regard...

 

Best Wishes

Mrs.Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

===================

 

 

-----------------

" Vic DiCara " <vicdicara

Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:37 PM

<jyotish-vidya >

Re: Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

 

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

Thank you. I was thinking that as well. Does this have a source? I am

satisfied to go with it, since you are learned and it confirms my own

instinct, but if there is a source I would like to know it as well.

 

Thanks so much,

Vic

 

On 2010/03/18, at 17:35, Mrs.Wendy wrote:

 

> Dear Vic,

>

> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

>

> Best Wishes

> Mrs.Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ===================

>

> Vic DiCara

> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

> jyotish-vidya

> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>

> A question for any and all:

>

> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each rashi,

> EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What is

> the triguna of these?

>

> Thank you,

> Vic DiCara

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Vic,

 

In the 8th verse of ch.4, where Parashara describes Taurus, there is a word

saying 'Vanigbhumiajaha " meaning Vysya(varna), Earthy and Rajasik. But, I am

unable to find a similar context in the next verse for Gemini

 

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Mrs.Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

>

>

> Dear Vic,,

>

> This is from the " Maharishi Jyotish " course. (Theme 1-Lesson 4; Rashi and

> Physiology). I have several flyers (from the course) which I've had

> laminated and keep close by me for easy reference.

>

> Sorry I can't point you to another reference off-hand. Perhaps another

> member can help in this regard...

>

>

> Best Wishes

> Mrs.Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ===================

>

> -----------------

> " Vic DiCara " <vicdicara <vicdicara%40gmail.com>>

> Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:37 PM

>

> <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>>

> Re: Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>

>

> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>

> Thank you. I was thinking that as well. Does this have a source? I am

> satisfied to go with it, since you are learned and it confirms my own

> instinct, but if there is a source I would like to know it as well.

>

> Thanks so much,

> Vic

>

> On 2010/03/18, at 17:35, Mrs.Wendy wrote:

>

> > Dear Vic,

> >

> > Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Mrs.Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > ===================

> >

> > Vic DiCara

> > Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

> > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>

> > Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

> >

> > A question for any and all:

> >

> > In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each rashi,

> > EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What is

> > the triguna of these?

> >

> > Thank you,

> > Vic DiCara

>

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PS: In the next verse about Gemini, there is a word called " ratribali "

meaning strong during night time. This can be taken as tamas in my opinion.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

kmurthys58 wrote:

 

> Dear Vic,

>

> In the 8th verse of ch.4, where Parashara describes Taurus, there is a word

> saying 'Vanigbhumiajaha " meaning Vysya(varna), Earthy and Rajasik. But, I am

> unable to find a similar context in the next verse for Gemini

>

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Mrs.Wendy <jyotishvidyawrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Dear Vic,,

>>

>> This is from the " Maharishi Jyotish " course. (Theme 1-Lesson 4; Rashi and

>> Physiology). I have several flyers (from the course) which I've had

>> laminated and keep close by me for easy reference.

>>

>> Sorry I can't point you to another reference off-hand. Perhaps another

>> member can help in this regard...

>>

>>

>> Best Wishes

>> Mrs.Wendy

>> http://JyotishVidya.com

>> ===================

>>

>> -----------------

>> " Vic DiCara " <vicdicara <vicdicara%40gmail.com>>

>> Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:37 PM

>>

>> <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>>

>> Re: Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>>

>>

>> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>>

>> Thank you. I was thinking that as well. Does this have a source? I am

>> satisfied to go with it, since you are learned and it confirms my own

>> instinct, but if there is a source I would like to know it as well.

>>

>> Thanks so much,

>> Vic

>>

>> On 2010/03/18, at 17:35, Mrs.Wendy wrote:

>>

>> > Dear Vic,

>> >

>> > Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

>> >

>> > Best Wishes

>> > Mrs.Wendy

>> > http://JyotishVidya.com

>> > ===================

>> >

>> > Vic DiCara

>> > Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

>> > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>

>> > Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>> >

>> > A question for any and all:

>> >

>> > In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each rashi,

>> > EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What is

>>

>> > the triguna of these?

>> >

>> > Thank you,

>> > Vic DiCara

>>

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>>

>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

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Dear Krishna and All,

 

I've had to resort to posting via the Web as (once again) there seems to be a

problem with posts being delayed.

 

///PS: In the next verse about Gemini, there is a word called " ratribali "

meaning strong during night time. This can be taken as tamas in my opinion.///

 

The following (BPHS Ch.4) seems not to support this opinion?

 

**6-7. ARIES DESCRIBED

The sign Aries is blood-red in complexion. It has a prominent (big) physique. It

is a quadruped sign and STRONG DURING NIGHT. It denotes courage. It resides in

the east and is related to kings. It wanders in hills and PREDOMINATES IN

RAJOGUNA (the cause of great activity in living beings). It rises with its back

(a Prishtodaya sign) and is fiery. Its ruler is Mars.

 

8. TAURUS DESCRIBED:

Its complexion is white, and is lorded by Venus. It is long and is a quadruped

sign. It has STRENGTH IN NIGHT and resides in the south. It represents villages

and businessmen. An earth sign, Taurus rises with its back.

 

9-9 1/2. GEMINI DESCRIBED:

The sign Gemini rises with its head and represents a male and a female holding a

mace and lute. It lives in the west and is an airy sign. It is a biped sign as

well as and IS STRONG IN NIGHTS. It lives in villages and is windy in

temperment. It has an even body with greengrass hue. Its ruler is Mercury.

 

10-11. CANCER DESCRIBED:

The sign Cancer is pale red. It resorts to forests and represents Brahmins. IT

IS STRONG IN NIGHTS. It has many feet (i.e. it is a centipede sign) and has a

bulky body. IT IS SATWIC in disposition (seen in gods) and is a watery sign. It

rises with its back and is ruled by the Moon.

 

12. LEO DESCRIBED:

Leo is ruled by the Sun and IS SATWIC. It is a quadruped sign and a royal sign.

It resorts to forests and rises with its head. It has a large, white body. It

resides in the east and IS DAY STRONG.

 

13-14. VIRGO DESCRIBED:

This sign is a hill-resorter, and IS STRONG IN DAYTIME. It rises with its head

and has a medium build. It is a biped sign and resides in the south. It has

grains and fire in its hands. It belongs to business community and is

variegated. It relates to hurricanes. It is a Virgin and IS TAMASA (a

disposition of demons). Its ruler is Mercury.

 

etc...**

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs.Wendy

 

================

 

 

jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58

wrote:

>

> PS: In the next verse about Gemini, there is a word called " ratribali "

> meaning strong during night time. This can be taken as tamas in my opinion.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

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Well, I guess I should have looked at the other verses too...

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:09 PM, wenvasuk <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

>

>

> Dear Krishna and All,

>

> I've had to resort to posting via the Web as (once again) there seems to be

> a problem with posts being delayed.

>

> ///PS: In the next verse about Gemini, there is a word called " ratribali "

> meaning strong during night time. This can be taken as tamas in my

> opinion.///

>

> The following (BPHS Ch.4) seems not to support this opinion?

>

> **6-7. ARIES DESCRIBED

> The sign Aries is blood-red in complexion. It has a prominent (big)

> physique. It is a quadruped sign and STRONG DURING NIGHT. It denotes

> courage. It resides in the east and is related to kings. It wanders in hills

> and PREDOMINATES IN RAJOGUNA (the cause of great activity in living beings).

> It rises with its back (a Prishtodaya sign) and is fiery. Its ruler is Mars.

>

> 8. TAURUS DESCRIBED:

> Its complexion is white, and is lorded by Venus. It is long and is a

> quadruped sign. It has STRENGTH IN NIGHT and resides in the south. It

> represents villages and businessmen. An earth sign, Taurus rises with its

> back.

>

> 9-9 1/2. GEMINI DESCRIBED:

> The sign Gemini rises with its head and represents a male and a female

> holding a mace and lute. It lives in the west and is an airy sign. It is a

> biped sign as well as and IS STRONG IN NIGHTS. It lives in villages and is

> windy in temperment. It has an even body with greengrass hue. Its ruler is

> Mercury.

>

> 10-11. CANCER DESCRIBED:

> The sign Cancer is pale red. It resorts to forests and represents Brahmins.

> IT IS STRONG IN NIGHTS. It has many feet (i.e. it is a centipede sign) and

> has a bulky body. IT IS SATWIC in disposition (seen in gods) and is a watery

> sign. It rises with its back and is ruled by the Moon.

>

> 12. LEO DESCRIBED:

> Leo is ruled by the Sun and IS SATWIC. It is a quadruped sign and a royal

> sign. It resorts to forests and rises with its head. It has a large, white

> body. It resides in the east and IS DAY STRONG.

>

> 13-14. VIRGO DESCRIBED:

> This sign is a hill-resorter, and IS STRONG IN DAYTIME. It rises with its

> head and has a medium build. It is a biped sign and resides in the south. It

> has grains and fire in its hands. It belongs to business community and is

> variegated. It relates to hurricanes. It is a Virgin and IS TAMASA (a

> disposition of demons). Its ruler is Mercury.

>

> etc...**

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs.Wendy

>

> ================

>

>

> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>,

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote:

> >

> > PS: In the next verse about Gemini, there is a word called " ratribali "

> > meaning strong during night time. This can be taken as tamas in my

> opinion.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Thanks Mrs. Wendy

 

On 2010/03/18, at 20:06, Mrs.Wendy wrote:

 

> Dear Vic,,

>

> This is from the " Maharishi Jyotish " course. (Theme 1-Lesson 4; Rashi and

> Physiology). I have several flyers (from the course) which I've had

> laminated and keep close by me for easy reference.

>

> Sorry I can't point you to another reference off-hand. Perhaps another

> member can help in this regard...

>

> Best Wishes

> Mrs.Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ===================

>

> -----------------

> " Vic DiCara " <vicdicara

> Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:37 PM

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Re: Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>

> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>

> Thank you. I was thinking that as well. Does this have a source? I am

> satisfied to go with it, since you are learned and it confirms my own

> instinct, but if there is a source I would like to know it as well.

>

> Thanks so much,

> Vic

>

> On 2010/03/18, at 17:35, Mrs.Wendy wrote:

>

> > Dear Vic,

> >

> > Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Mrs.Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > ===================

> >

> > Vic DiCara

> > Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

> > jyotish-vidya

> > Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

> >

> > A question for any and all:

> >

> > In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each rashi,

> > EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What is

> > the triguna of these?

> >

> > Thank you,

> > Vic DiCara

>

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Dear Krishna,

 

Good work with the Sanskrit on BPHS 4:8-9. Thank you for the work. I agree with

your assessments fully.

 

Yours,

Vic

 

On 2010/03/18, at 20:21, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

 

> Dear Vic,

>

> In the 8th verse of ch.4, where Parashara describes Taurus, there is a word

> saying 'Vanigbhumiajaha " meaning Vysya(varna), Earthy and Rajasik. But, I am

> unable to find a similar context in the next verse for Gemini

>

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Mrs.Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Dear Vic,,

>>

>> This is from the " Maharishi Jyotish " course. (Theme 1-Lesson 4; Rashi and

>> Physiology). I have several flyers (from the course) which I've had

>> laminated and keep close by me for easy reference.

>>

>> Sorry I can't point you to another reference off-hand. Perhaps another

>> member can help in this regard...

>>

>>

>> Best Wishes

>> Mrs.Wendy

>> http://JyotishVidya.com

>> ===================

>>

>> -----------------

>> " Vic DiCara " <vicdicara <vicdicara%40gmail.com>>

>> Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:37 PM

>>

>> <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>>

>> Re: Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>>

>>

>> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>>

>> Thank you. I was thinking that as well. Does this have a source? I am

>> satisfied to go with it, since you are learned and it confirms my own

>> instinct, but if there is a source I would like to know it as well.

>>

>> Thanks so much,

>> Vic

>>

>> On 2010/03/18, at 17:35, Mrs.Wendy wrote:

>>

>>> Dear Vic,

>>>

>>> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

>>>

>>> Best Wishes

>>> Mrs.Wendy

>>> http://JyotishVidya.com

>>> ===================

>>>

>>> Vic DiCara

>>> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

>>> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>

>>> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>>>

>>> A question for any and all:

>>>

>>> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each rashi,

>>> EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What is

>>> the triguna of these?

>>>

>>> Thank you,

>>> Vic DiCara

>>

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If anyone has any inputs about the included message pls. do share.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

kmurthys58 wrote:

 

> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>

> Sun, Moon and Jupiter are Satvik planets and so are the signs owned by

> them.

> Venus is Rajasik and so are the signs owned by it.

> Saturn is Tamasik and so are the signs owned by it.

>

> But, such a consistency is not seen for Mercury and Mars. Mercury is a

> Rajasik planet while the signs owned by it are both Tamasik. Similarly Mars

> is Tamasik while Aries is said to be Rajasik and Scorpio to be Satvik. I am

> not able to comprehend this deviation for Mercury and Mars. Please shed some

> light on this.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mrs.Wendy <jyotishvidyawrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Dear Vic,

>>

>> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

>>

>> Best Wishes

>> Mrs.Wendy

>> http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/>

>> ===================

>>

>> Vic DiCara

>> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

>> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>

>> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>>

>>

>> A question for any and all:

>>

>> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each rashi,

>> EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What is the

>> triguna of these?

>>

>> Thank you,

>> Vic DiCara

>>

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Dear Krishna,

 

Did my previous post on this topic make it to the group? I wanted to ask on

which basis you say that Scorpio is Sattvic? It appears to me that Parashara

describes it's varna as brahmin but it's guna as rajas. My Parashara's Light is

crashing when I try to open the sanskrit BPHS. Can you kindly check the Sanskrit

for BPHS 4.16?

 

The english is: " denotes brahmins " ... " is very sharp (passionate) "

 

 

On 2010/03/19, at 10:24, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

 

> If anyone has any inputs about the included message pls. do share.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

> kmurthys58 wrote:

>

>> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>>

>> Sun, Moon and Jupiter are Satvik planets and so are the signs owned by

>> them.

>> Venus is Rajasik and so are the signs owned by it.

>> Saturn is Tamasik and so are the signs owned by it.

>>

>> But, such a consistency is not seen for Mercury and Mars. Mercury is a

>> Rajasik planet while the signs owned by it are both Tamasik. Similarly Mars

>> is Tamasik while Aries is said to be Rajasik and Scorpio to be Satvik. I am

>> not able to comprehend this deviation for Mercury and Mars. Please shed some

>> light on this.

>>

>> Regards,

>> Krishna

>>

>>

>>

>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mrs.Wendy <jyotishvidyawrote:

>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Dear Vic,

>>>

>>> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

>>>

>>> Best Wishes

>>> Mrs.Wendy

>>> http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/>

>>> ===================

>>>

>>> Vic DiCara

>>> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

>>> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>

>>> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>>>

>>>

>>> A question for any and all:

>>>

>>> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each rashi,

>>> EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What is the

>>> triguna of these?

>>>

>>> Thank you,

>>> Vic DiCara

>>>

>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus

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>>>

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Dear Vic,

 

Yes, it only says 'Brahmin'. So it is only varna. There is no mention of

Guna here.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Vic DiCara <vicdicara wrote:

 

>

>

> Dear Krishna,

>

> Did my previous post on this topic make it to the group? I wanted to ask on

> which basis you say that Scorpio is Sattvic? It appears to me that Parashara

> describes it's varna as brahmin but it's guna as rajas. My Parashara's Light

> is crashing when I try to open the sanskrit BPHS. Can you kindly check the

> Sanskrit for BPHS 4.16?

>

> The english is: " denotes brahmins " ... " is very sharp (passionate) "

>

>

> On 2010/03/19, at 10:24, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

>

> > If anyone has any inputs about the included message pls. do share.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

> > kmurthys58 <kmurthys58%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> >

> >> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

> >>

> >> Sun, Moon and Jupiter are Satvik planets and so are the signs owned by

> >> them.

> >> Venus is Rajasik and so are the signs owned by it.

> >> Saturn is Tamasik and so are the signs owned by it.

> >>

> >> But, such a consistency is not seen for Mercury and Mars. Mercury is a

> >> Rajasik planet while the signs owned by it are both Tamasik. Similarly

> Mars

> >> is Tamasik while Aries is said to be Rajasik and Scorpio to be Satvik. I

> am

> >> not able to comprehend this deviation for Mercury and Mars. Please shed

> some

> >> light on this.

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >> Krishna

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mrs.Wendy

<jyotishvidya<jyotishvidya%40bigpond.com>

> >wrote:

> >>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Dear Vic,

> >>>

> >>> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

> >>>

> >>> Best Wishes

> >>> Mrs.Wendy

> >>> http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/>

>

> >>> ===================

> >>>

> >>> Vic DiCara

> >>> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

> >>> jyotish-vidya

<jyotish-vidya%40><jyotish-vidya%

> 40>

>

> >>> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> A question for any and all:

> >>>

> >>> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each rashi,

> >>> EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What

> is the

> >>> triguna of these?

> >>>

> >>> Thank you,

> >>> Vic DiCara

> >>>

> >>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus

> >>> signature database 4953 (20100317) __________

> >>>

> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

> >>>

> >>> http://www.eset.com

> >>>

> >>>

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Dear Krishna,

 

It seems the translator takes the sanskrit for " sharp " to also mean " passionate "

which refers to rajas, rajo-guna. Can you locate that Sanskrit word? I apologize

that I can't access the Sanskrit for BPHS right now.

 

Thanks,

Vic

 

On 2010/03/19, at 15:10, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

 

> Dear Vic,

>

> Yes, it only says 'Brahmin'. So it is only varna. There is no mention of

> Guna here.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Vic DiCara <vicdicara wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Dear Krishna,

>>

>> Did my previous post on this topic make it to the group? I wanted to ask on

>> which basis you say that Scorpio is Sattvic? It appears to me that Parashara

>> describes it's varna as brahmin but it's guna as rajas. My Parashara's Light

>> is crashing when I try to open the sanskrit BPHS. Can you kindly check the

>> Sanskrit for BPHS 4.16?

>>

>> The english is: " denotes brahmins " ... " is very sharp (passionate) "

>>

>>

>> On 2010/03/19, at 10:24, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

>>

>>> If anyone has any inputs about the included message pls. do share.

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> Krishna

>>>

>>>

>>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

>>> kmurthys58 <kmurthys58%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>>>>

>>>> Sun, Moon and Jupiter are Satvik planets and so are the signs owned by

>>>> them.

>>>> Venus is Rajasik and so are the signs owned by it.

>>>> Saturn is Tamasik and so are the signs owned by it.

>>>>

>>>> But, such a consistency is not seen for Mercury and Mars. Mercury is a

>>>> Rajasik planet while the signs owned by it are both Tamasik. Similarly

>> Mars

>>>> is Tamasik while Aries is said to be Rajasik and Scorpio to be Satvik. I

>> am

>>>> not able to comprehend this deviation for Mercury and Mars. Please shed

>> some

>>>> light on this.

>>>>

>>>> Regards,

>>>> Krishna

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mrs.Wendy

<jyotishvidya<jyotishvidya%40bigpond.com>

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Dear Vic,

>>>>>

>>>>> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

>>>>>

>>>>> Best Wishes

>>>>> Mrs.Wendy

>>>>> http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/>

>>

>>>>> ===================

>>>>>

>>>>> Vic DiCara

>>>>> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

>>>>> jyotish-vidya

<jyotish-vidya%40><jyotish-vidya%

>> 40>

>>

>>>>> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> A question for any and all:

>>>>>

>>>>> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each rashi,

>>>>> EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What

>> is the

>>>>> triguna of these?

>>>>>

>>>>> Thank you,

>>>>> Vic DiCara

>>>>>

>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus

>>>>> signature database 4953 (20100317) __________

>>>>>

>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.eset.com

>>>>>

>>>>>

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Dear Vic,

 

The word is 'Teekshnagro' meaning sharp front end. That may not mean rajas.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Vic DiCara <vicdicara wrote:

 

>

>

> Dear Krishna,

>

> It seems the translator takes the sanskrit for " sharp " to also mean

> " passionate " which refers to rajas, rajo-guna. Can you locate that Sanskrit

> word? I apologize that I can't access the Sanskrit for BPHS right now.

>

> Thanks,

> Vic

>

>

> On 2010/03/19, at 15:10, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

>

> > Dear Vic,

> >

> > Yes, it only says 'Brahmin'. So it is only varna. There is no mention of

> > Guna here.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Vic DiCara

<vicdicara<vicdicara%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> Dear Krishna,

> >>

> >> Did my previous post on this topic make it to the group? I wanted to ask

> on

> >> which basis you say that Scorpio is Sattvic? It appears to me that

> Parashara

> >> describes it's varna as brahmin but it's guna as rajas. My Parashara's

> Light

> >> is crashing when I try to open the sanskrit BPHS. Can you kindly check

> the

> >> Sanskrit for BPHS 4.16?

> >>

> >> The english is: " denotes brahmins " ... " is very sharp (passionate) "

> >>

> >>

> >> On 2010/03/19, at 10:24, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

> >>

> >>> If anyone has any inputs about the included message pls. do share.

> >>>

> >>> Regards,

> >>> Krishna

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

> >>> kmurthys58 <kmurthys58%40gmail.com> <kmurthys58%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

> >>>>

> >>>> Sun, Moon and Jupiter are Satvik planets and so are the signs owned by

> >>>> them.

> >>>> Venus is Rajasik and so are the signs owned by it.

> >>>> Saturn is Tamasik and so are the signs owned by it.

> >>>>

> >>>> But, such a consistency is not seen for Mercury and Mars. Mercury is a

> >>>> Rajasik planet while the signs owned by it are both Tamasik. Similarly

> >> Mars

> >>>> is Tamasik while Aries is said to be Rajasik and Scorpio to be Satvik.

> I

> >> am

> >>>> not able to comprehend this deviation for Mercury and Mars. Please

> shed

> >> some

> >>>> light on this.

> >>>>

> >>>> Regards,

> >>>> Krishna

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mrs.Wendy

<jyotishvidya<jyotishvidya%40bigpond.com>

> <jyotishvidya%40bigpond.com>

>

> >>> wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Dear Vic,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Best Wishes

> >>>>> Mrs.Wendy

> >>>>> http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/>

> >>

> >>>>> ===================

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Vic DiCara

> >>>>> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

> >>>>> jyotish-vidya

<jyotish-vidya%40><jyotish-vidya%

> 40><jyotish-vidya%

>

> >> 40>

> >>

> >>>>> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> A question for any and all:

> >>>>>

> >>>>> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each

> rashi,

> >>>>> EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What

> >> is the

> >>>>> triguna of these?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Thank you,

> >>>>> Vic DiCara

> >>>>>

> >>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus

> >>>>> signature database 4953 (20100317) __________

> >>>>>

> >>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> http://www.eset.com

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

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Dear Krishna ji/vic ji,

the word teekshanagro could mean Rajas(rajo guna) also.Sanskrit has got

many meanings to a word than any other language.Hence it is also called

language of gods!!...

More over Mars/8H of natural zodiac can not be satwic(logical i

believe).............I have my own reservations about it since it could

only be Rajasic/tamasic.My personal opinion goes(though doesnt matter)

to Tamasic since Aries is Rajasic.............

Love and regards,

gopi.

jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<kmurthys58 wrote:

>

> Dear Vic,

>

> The word is 'Teekshnagro' meaning sharp front end. That may not mean

rajas.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Vic DiCara vicdicara wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Dear Krishna,

> >

> > It seems the translator takes the sanskrit for " sharp " to also mean

> > " passionate " which refers to rajas, rajo-guna. Can you locate that

Sanskrit

> > word? I apologize that I can't access the Sanskrit for BPHS right

now.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Vic

> >

> >

> > On 2010/03/19, at 15:10, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Vic,

> > >

> > > Yes, it only says 'Brahmin'. So it is only varna. There is no

mention of

> > > Guna here.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > >

> > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Vic DiCara

vicdicara<vicdicara%40gmail.com>>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Dear Krishna,

> > >>

> > >> Did my previous post on this topic make it to the group? I wanted

to ask

> > on

> > >> which basis you say that Scorpio is Sattvic? It appears to me

that

> > Parashara

> > >> describes it's varna as brahmin but it's guna as rajas. My

Parashara's

> > Light

> > >> is crashing when I try to open the sanskrit BPHS. Can you kindly

check

> > the

> > >> Sanskrit for BPHS 4.16?

> > >>

> > >> The english is: " denotes brahmins " ... " is very sharp

(passionate) "

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> On 2010/03/19, at 10:24, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

> > >>

> > >>> If anyone has any inputs about the included message pls. do

share.

> > >>>

> > >>> Regards,

> > >>> Krishna

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

> > >>> kmurthys58 <kmurthys58%40gmail.com>

<kmurthys58%40gmail.com>>

> > wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>>> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Sun, Moon and Jupiter are Satvik planets and so are the signs

owned by

> > >>>> them.

> > >>>> Venus is Rajasik and so are the signs owned by it.

> > >>>> Saturn is Tamasik and so are the signs owned by it.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> But, such a consistency is not seen for Mercury and Mars.

Mercury is a

> > >>>> Rajasik planet while the signs owned by it are both Tamasik.

Similarly

> > >> Mars

> > >>>> is Tamasik while Aries is said to be Rajasik and Scorpio to be

Satvik.

> > I

> > >> am

> > >>>> not able to comprehend this deviation for Mercury and Mars.

Please

> > shed

> > >> some

> > >>>> light on this.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Regards,

> > >>>> Krishna

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mrs.Wendy

jyotishvidya<jyotishvidya%40bigpond.com>

> > <jyotishvidya%40bigpond.com>

> >

> > >>> wrote:

> > >>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Dear Vic,

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Best Wishes

> > >>>>> Mrs.Wendy

> > >>>>> http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/>

> > >>

> > >>>>> ===================

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Vic DiCara

> > >>>>> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

> > >>>>> jyotish-vidya

<jyotish-vidya%40><jyotish-vidya%

> > 40><jyotish-vidya%

> >

> > >> 40>

> > >>

> > >>>>> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> A question for any and all:

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of

each

> > rashi,

> > >>>>> EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined

anywhere? What

> > >> is the

> > >>>>> triguna of these?

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Thank you,

> > >>>>> Vic DiCara

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of

virus

> > >>>>> signature database 4953 (20100317) __________

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> http://www.eset.com

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

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Dear Gopi ji,

 

One is free to draw conclusions. However, Sharma's translation says - sharp

forepart (sharp like sting).

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:56 PM, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote:

 

>

>

> Dear Krishna ji/vic ji,

> the word teekshanagro could mean Rajas(rajo guna) also.Sanskrit has got

> many meanings to a word than any other language.Hence it is also called

> language of gods!!...

> More over Mars/8H of natural zodiac can not be satwic(logical i

> believe).............I have my own reservations about it since it could

> only be Rajasic/tamasic.My personal opinion goes(though doesnt matter)

> to Tamasic since Aries is Rajasic.............

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

>

> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>,

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> <kmurthys58 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vic,

> >

> > The word is 'Teekshnagro' meaning sharp front end. That may not mean

> rajas.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> >

> > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Vic DiCara vicdicara wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Krishna,

> > >

> > > It seems the translator takes the sanskrit for " sharp " to also mean

> > > " passionate " which refers to rajas, rajo-guna. Can you locate that

> Sanskrit

> > > word? I apologize that I can't access the Sanskrit for BPHS right

> now.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Vic

> > >

> > >

> > > On 2010/03/19, at 15:10, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Vic,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, it only says 'Brahmin'. So it is only varna. There is no

> mention of

> > > > Guna here.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Krishna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Vic DiCara

> vicdicara<vicdicara%40gmail.com>>

>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> Dear Krishna,

> > > >>

> > > >> Did my previous post on this topic make it to the group? I wanted

> to ask

> > > on

> > > >> which basis you say that Scorpio is Sattvic? It appears to me

> that

> > > Parashara

> > > >> describes it's varna as brahmin but it's guna as rajas. My

> Parashara's

> > > Light

> > > >> is crashing when I try to open the sanskrit BPHS. Can you kindly

> check

> > > the

> > > >> Sanskrit for BPHS 4.16?

> > > >>

> > > >> The english is: " denotes brahmins " ... " is very sharp

> (passionate) "

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> On 2010/03/19, at 10:24, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

> > > >>

> > > >>> If anyone has any inputs about the included message pls. do

> share.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Regards,

> > > >>> Krishna

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

> > > >>> kmurthys58 <kmurthys58%40gmail.com>

>

> <kmurthys58%40gmail.com>>

> > > wrote:

> > > >>>

> > > >>>> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Sun, Moon and Jupiter are Satvik planets and so are the signs

> owned by

> > > >>>> them.

> > > >>>> Venus is Rajasik and so are the signs owned by it.

> > > >>>> Saturn is Tamasik and so are the signs owned by it.

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> But, such a consistency is not seen for Mercury and Mars.

> Mercury is a

> > > >>>> Rajasik planet while the signs owned by it are both Tamasik.

> Similarly

> > > >> Mars

> > > >>>> is Tamasik while Aries is said to be Rajasik and Scorpio to be

> Satvik.

> > > I

> > > >> am

> > > >>>> not able to comprehend this deviation for Mercury and Mars.

> Please

> > > shed

> > > >> some

> > > >>>> light on this.

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Regards,

> > > >>>> Krishna

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mrs.Wendy

> jyotishvidya<jyotishvidya%40bigpond.com>

>

> > > <jyotishvidya%40bigpond.com>

> > >

> > > >>> wrote:

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> Dear Vic,

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> Best Wishes

> > > >>>>> Mrs.Wendy

> > > >>>>> http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/>

> > > >>

> > > >>>>> ===================

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> Vic DiCara

> > > >>>>> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

> > > >>>>> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>

> <jyotish-vidya%40><jyotish-vidya%

> > > 40><jyotish-vidya%

> > >

> > > >> 40>

> > > >>

> > > >>>>> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> A question for any and all:

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of

> each

> > > rashi,

> > > >>>>> EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined

> anywhere? What

> > > >> is the

> > > >>>>> triguna of these?

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> Thank you,

> > > >>>>> Vic DiCara

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of

> virus

> > > >>>>> signature database 4953 (20100317) __________

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>> http://www.eset.com

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>>

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Dear Krishna and All,

 

This really is proving quite a dilemma at the moment as my (course) notes

definitely tell me that...

1) Mars is Tamas whilst Aries (movable) and Scorpio (fixed) are both Rajas.

2) Mercury is Rajas whilst Gemini (dual) and Virgo (dual) are both Tamas.

 

However there seems to be a strong view out there that...

1) Movable signs have a predominance of Rajas Guna.

2) Fixed signs have a predominance of Tamas Guna.

3) Dual signs have a predominance of Sattwa Guna.

 

However both BPHS and my own (course) notes disagree with this...

1) Parasara declares (for instance) that Leo, a fixed sign, is Sattwic.

2) My (course) notes also tell me that Leo is Sattwic.

 

As much as I'd hate to concede some error in my course notes, I would have

no choice if the evidence against was strong enough; But there can be no

doubt that Parasara agrees. So at the moment it remains a bit of a dilemma.

 

Best Wishes

Mrs.Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

===================

 

 

-----------------

" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58

Friday, March 19, 2010 9:24 AM

<jyotish-vidya >

Re: Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

 

If anyone has any inputs about the included message pls. do share.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

kmurthys58 wrote:

 

> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>

> Sun, Moon and Jupiter are Satvik planets and so are the signs owned by

> them.

> Venus is Rajasik and so are the signs owned by it.

> Saturn is Tamasik and so are the signs owned by it.

>

> But, such a consistency is not seen for Mercury and Mars. Mercury is a

> Rajasik planet while the signs owned by it are both Tamasik. Similarly

> Mars

> is Tamasik while Aries is said to be Rajasik and Scorpio to be Satvik. I

> am

> not able to comprehend this deviation for Mercury and Mars. Please shed

> some

> light on this.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

 

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Dear Mrs. Wendy,

 

Yes we are in a dilemma for sure.

 

While I am not questioning the correctness of what is stated in BPHS or in

your notes, I am trying to understand the reasoning behind it.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Mrs.Wendy <jyotishvidya wrote:

 

>

>

> Dear Krishna and All,

>

> This really is proving quite a dilemma at the moment as my (course) notes

> definitely tell me that...

> 1) Mars is Tamas whilst Aries (movable) and Scorpio (fixed) are both Rajas.

> 2) Mercury is Rajas whilst Gemini (dual) and Virgo (dual) are both Tamas.

>

> However there seems to be a strong view out there that...

> 1) Movable signs have a predominance of Rajas Guna.

> 2) Fixed signs have a predominance of Tamas Guna.

> 3) Dual signs have a predominance of Sattwa Guna.

>

> However both BPHS and my own (course) notes disagree with this...

> 1) Parasara declares (for instance) that Leo, a fixed sign, is Sattwic.

> 2) My (course) notes also tell me that Leo is Sattwic.

>

> As much as I'd hate to concede some error in my course notes, I would have

> no choice if the evidence against was strong enough; But there can be no

> doubt that Parasara agrees. So at the moment it remains a bit of a dilemma.

>

>

> Best Wishes

> Mrs.Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ===================

>

> -----------------

> " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com>

> >

> Friday, March 19, 2010 9:24 AM

>

> <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>>

> Re: Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>

>

> If anyone has any inputs about the included message pls. do share.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

> kmurthys58 <kmurthys58%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> > Dear Mrs. Wendy,

> >

> > Sun, Moon and Jupiter are Satvik planets and so are the signs owned by

> > them.

> > Venus is Rajasik and so are the signs owned by it.

> > Saturn is Tamasik and so are the signs owned by it.

> >

> > But, such a consistency is not seen for Mercury and Mars. Mercury is a

> > Rajasik planet while the signs owned by it are both Tamasik. Similarly

> > Mars

> > is Tamasik while Aries is said to be Rajasik and Scorpio to be Satvik. I

> > am

> > not able to comprehend this deviation for Mercury and Mars. Please shed

> > some

> > light on this.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

>

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Dear Krishna and All,

 

In my experience, the most essential key to really grasping the shastras is

*context*. In this particular case we find there is basically one shloka for

each rashi. We find that Parashara has a group of qualities, and in each shloka

he enumerates the way each rasha behaves in each category. Every shloka

describes a guna for example. Therefore if we find one or two which do not, we

suspect it is an error in translation.

 

Sanskrit translators really have a difficult task and they very rarely do a

passable job. Translations of Vedic shastras are extremely poor, in my opinion.

It is very difficult to be fair, because one must have a mastery of three

difficult subjects: (1) English, (2) Sanskrit and (3) Jyotish.

 

So, therefore if there are some verses which the English lacks a specific for

Guna, but for every other rashi parashara has enumerated the guna - we are quite

suspicious of an oversight in translation. Upon closer examination of the

shlokas missing the English translations for specifications of Guna, we find

words in Sanskrit which pertain to the Gunas. It is extremely prudent and wise

for us at this stage to understand that it is a mistake in translation.

 

Thus we find confidently that Taurus is rajasic, Gemini tamasic, and Scorpio

rajasic.

 

Mrs. Wendy has brought up the topic that dvisvabhava relates to sattva-guna,

chara to rajo-guna and sthira to tamo-guna. I find this thoroughly reasonable

and valid personally. However, the two exist side by side, creating distinctions

among the signs. Pisces and Sagittarius, for example are thoroughly sattvic

signs, because they have the quality of sattva by their own nature, and their

" guna " (as it is literally called, no?) also has the quality of sattva, being

dvi-svabhavika. Leo and Cancer, on the other hand are not as purely sattvic as

Sagittarius and Pisces. Because in the case of Leo, it's being sthira blends

it's inherent sattva with sthira's quality of tamas. In the case of Cancer, the

inherent sattva blends with chara's rajas.

 

In this way, it all makes lovely sense and has a nice harmony.

 

It is also interesting to differentiate the varnas. For example both the Sun and

Mars are Ksatriyas, but the Sun is a sattvic ksatriya, while Mars is a tamasic

Ksatriya. That nicely describes the difference in the nature of the Sun and

Mars. The Moon is a sattvic vaishya, while mercury is a rajasic vaishya. Jupiter

a sattvic brahman while Venus is a rajasic bhrahman. Saturn, Rahu and Ketu are

all tamasic, but Saturn is structured and behaves as a shudra, whereas Rahu and

Ketu are lawless and behave as mlecchas.

 

It all makes very nice sense, in my opinion.

 

Another thing very interesting to note is that the earth element pertains to

vaishyas, the fire element to kshatriyas, the water element to brahmanas, and

the air element to shudras.

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara

 

 

 

On 2010/03/19, at 16:55, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

 

> Dear Gopi ji,

>

> One is free to draw conclusions. However, Sharma's translation says - sharp

> forepart (sharp like sting).

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:56 PM, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Dear Krishna ji/vic ji,

>> the word teekshanagro could mean Rajas(rajo guna) also.Sanskrit has got

>> many meanings to a word than any other language.Hence it is also called

>> language of gods!!...

>> More over Mars/8H of natural zodiac can not be satwic(logical i

>> believe).............I have my own reservations about it since it could

>> only be Rajasic/tamasic.My personal opinion goes(though doesnt matter)

>> to Tamasic since Aries is Rajasic.............

>> Love and regards,

>> gopi.

>>

>> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>,

>> Krishnamurthy Seetharama

>> <kmurthys58 wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Vic,

>>>

>>> The word is 'Teekshnagro' meaning sharp front end. That may not mean

>> rajas.

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> Krishna

>>>

>>>

>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Vic DiCara vicdicara wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Dear Krishna,

>>>>

>>>> It seems the translator takes the sanskrit for " sharp " to also mean

>>>> " passionate " which refers to rajas, rajo-guna. Can you locate that

>> Sanskrit

>>>> word? I apologize that I can't access the Sanskrit for BPHS right

>> now.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks,

>>>> Vic

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On 2010/03/19, at 15:10, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Dear Vic,

>>>>>

>>>>> Yes, it only says 'Brahmin'. So it is only varna. There is no

>> mention of

>>>>> Guna here.

>>>>>

>>>>> Regards,

>>>>> Krishna

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Vic DiCara

>> vicdicara<vicdicara%40gmail.com>>

>>

>>>> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear Krishna,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Did my previous post on this topic make it to the group? I wanted

>> to ask

>>>> on

>>>>>> which basis you say that Scorpio is Sattvic? It appears to me

>> that

>>>> Parashara

>>>>>> describes it's varna as brahmin but it's guna as rajas. My

>> Parashara's

>>>> Light

>>>>>> is crashing when I try to open the sanskrit BPHS. Can you kindly

>> check

>>>> the

>>>>>> Sanskrit for BPHS 4.16?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The english is: " denotes brahmins " ... " is very sharp

>> (passionate) "

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On 2010/03/19, at 10:24, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> If anyone has any inputs about the included message pls. do

>> share.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>> Krishna

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

>>>>>>> kmurthys58 <kmurthys58%40gmail.com>

>>

>> <kmurthys58%40gmail.com>>

>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Sun, Moon and Jupiter are Satvik planets and so are the signs

>> owned by

>>>>>>>> them.

>>>>>>>> Venus is Rajasik and so are the signs owned by it.

>>>>>>>> Saturn is Tamasik and so are the signs owned by it.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> But, such a consistency is not seen for Mercury and Mars.

>> Mercury is a

>>>>>>>> Rajasik planet while the signs owned by it are both Tamasik.

>> Similarly

>>>>>> Mars

>>>>>>>> is Tamasik while Aries is said to be Rajasik and Scorpio to be

>> Satvik.

>>>> I

>>>>>> am

>>>>>>>> not able to comprehend this deviation for Mercury and Mars.

>> Please

>>>> shed

>>>>>> some

>>>>>>>> light on this.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>>> Krishna

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mrs.Wendy

>> jyotishvidya<jyotishvidya%40bigpond.com>

>>

>>>> <jyotishvidya%40bigpond.com>

>>>>

>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Dear Vic,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Best Wishes

>>>>>>>>> Mrs.Wendy

>>>>>>>>> http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> ===================

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Vic DiCara

>>>>>>>>> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

>>>>>>>>> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>

>> <jyotish-vidya%40><jyotish-vidya%

>>>> 40><jyotish-vidya%

>>>>

>>>>>> 40>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> A question for any and all:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of

>> each

>>>> rashi,

>>>>>>>>> EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined

>> anywhere? What

>>>>>> is the

>>>>>>>>> triguna of these?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Thank you,

>>>>>>>>> Vic DiCara

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of

>> virus

>>>>>>>>> signature database 4953 (20100317) __________

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

>>>>>>>>>

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>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

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Dear Krishna,

 

Why would you say that " teeksha-agro " could not refer to rajas?

 

According to the standard English-Sanskrit dictionary (Sir Monier Monier

Williams dictionary), teekshna means: " sharp, hot, pungent, fiery, acid, keen,

and zealous " - these are all descriptions of rajo-guna, are they not?

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara

 

 

On 2010/03/19, at 15:30, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

 

> Dear Vic,

>

> The word is 'Teekshnagro' meaning sharp front end. That may not mean rajas.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Vic DiCara <vicdicara wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Dear Krishna,

>>

>> It seems the translator takes the sanskrit for " sharp " to also mean

>> " passionate " which refers to rajas, rajo-guna. Can you locate that Sanskrit

>> word? I apologize that I can't access the Sanskrit for BPHS right now.

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Vic

>>

>>

>> On 2010/03/19, at 15:10, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

>>

>>> Dear Vic,

>>>

>>> Yes, it only says 'Brahmin'. So it is only varna. There is no mention of

>>> Guna here.

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> Krishna

>>>

>>>

>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Vic DiCara

<vicdicara<vicdicara%40gmail.com>>

>> wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Dear Krishna,

>>>>

>>>> Did my previous post on this topic make it to the group? I wanted to ask

>> on

>>>> which basis you say that Scorpio is Sattvic? It appears to me that

>> Parashara

>>>> describes it's varna as brahmin but it's guna as rajas. My Parashara's

>> Light

>>>> is crashing when I try to open the sanskrit BPHS. Can you kindly check

>> the

>>>> Sanskrit for BPHS 4.16?

>>>>

>>>> The english is: " denotes brahmins " ... " is very sharp (passionate) "

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On 2010/03/19, at 10:24, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> If anyone has any inputs about the included message pls. do share.

>>>>>

>>>>> Regards,

>>>>> Krishna

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

>>>>> kmurthys58 <kmurthys58%40gmail.com> <kmurthys58%40gmail.com>>

>> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Sun, Moon and Jupiter are Satvik planets and so are the signs owned by

>>>>>> them.

>>>>>> Venus is Rajasik and so are the signs owned by it.

>>>>>> Saturn is Tamasik and so are the signs owned by it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> But, such a consistency is not seen for Mercury and Mars. Mercury is a

>>>>>> Rajasik planet while the signs owned by it are both Tamasik. Similarly

>>>> Mars

>>>>>> is Tamasik while Aries is said to be Rajasik and Scorpio to be Satvik.

>> I

>>>> am

>>>>>> not able to comprehend this deviation for Mercury and Mars. Please

>> shed

>>>> some

>>>>>> light on this.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>> Krishna

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mrs.Wendy

<jyotishvidya<jyotishvidya%40bigpond.com>

>> <jyotishvidya%40bigpond.com>

>>

>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Dear Vic,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Best Wishes

>>>>>>> Mrs.Wendy

>>>>>>> http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/>

>>>>

>>>>>>> ===================

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Vic DiCara

>>>>>>> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

>>>>>>> jyotish-vidya

<jyotish-vidya%40><jyotish-vidya%

>> 40><jyotish-vidya%

>>

>>>> 40>

>>>>

>>>>>>> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> A question for any and all:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of each

>> rashi,

>>>>>>> EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined anywhere? What

>>>> is the

>>>>>>> triguna of these?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thank you,

>>>>>>> Vic DiCara

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus

>>>>>>> signature database 4953 (20100317) __________

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

>>>>>>>

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>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

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Namaste Vic Ji,

 

You have point here.  One can refer to the individual words (in English) in S.V.

Apte, English  to Sanskrit-Dictionary, 3rd Ed. Pune 1920, gives the Sanskrit

equivalent i.e.  teekshn  sharp, hot, pungent, fiery, fire etc. in the appended

url:

 

http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/scans/AEScan/index.php?sfx=pdf

 

 

With regards,

Sivaprakasam

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

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jyotish-vidya

Fri, 19 March, 2010 2:42:30 PM

Re: Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

 

 

Dear Krishna,

 

Why would you say that " teeksha-agro " could not refer to rajas?

 

According to the standard English-Sanskrit dictionary (Sir Monier Monier

Williams dictionary), teekshna means: " sharp, hot, pungent, fiery, acid, keen,

and zealous " - these are all descriptions of rajo-guna, are they not?

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara

 

 

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Namaste Vic Ji,

 

>It is also interesting to differentiate the varnas. For example both the Sun

and Mars are Ksatriyas, but the Sun is a sattvic ksatriya, while Mars is a

tamasic Ksatriya. That nicely describes the difference in the nature of the Sun

and Mars. The Moon is a sattvic vaishya, while mercury is a rajasic vaishya.

Jupiter a sattvic brahman while Venus is a rajasic bhrahman. Saturn, Rahu and

Ketu are all tamasic, but Saturn is structured and behaves as a shudra, whereas

Rahu and Ketu are lawless and behave as mlecchas.>

 

Yes. This point appears to be very reasonable.  

 

With regards,

Sivaprakasam

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vic DiCara <vicdicara

jyotish-vidya

Fri, 19 March, 2010 2:35:56 PM

Re: Re: Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

 

 

Dear Krishna and All,

 

In my experience, the most essential key to really grasping the shastras is

*context*. In this particular case we find there is basically one shloka for

each rashi. We find that Parashara has a group of qualities, and in each shloka

he enumerates the way each rasha behaves in each category. Every shloka

describes a guna for example. Therefore if we find one or two which do not, we

suspect it is an error in translation.

 

Sanskrit translators really have a difficult task and they very rarely do a

passable job. Translations of Vedic shastras are extremely poor, in my opinion.

It is very difficult to be fair, because one must have a mastery of three

difficult subjects: (1) English, (2) Sanskrit and (3) Jyotish.

 

So, therefore if there are some verses which the English lacks a specific for

Guna, but for every other rashi parashara has enumerated the guna - we are quite

suspicious of an oversight in translation. Upon closer examination of the

shlokas missing the English translations for specifications of Guna, we find

words in Sanskrit which pertain to the Gunas. It is extremely prudent and wise

for us at this stage to understand that it is a mistake in translation.

 

Thus we find confidently that Taurus is rajasic, Gemini tamasic, and Scorpio

rajasic.

 

Mrs. Wendy has brought up the topic that dvisvabhava relates to sattva-guna,

chara to rajo-guna and sthira to tamo-guna. I find this thoroughly reasonable

and valid personally. However, the two exist side by side, creating distinctions

among the signs. Pisces and Sagittarius, for example are thoroughly sattvic

signs, because they have the quality of sattva by their own nature, and their

" guna " (as it is literally called, no?) also has the quality of sattva, being

dvi-svabhavika. Leo and Cancer, on the other hand are not as purely sattvic as

Sagittarius and Pisces. Because in the case of Leo, it's being sthira blends

it's inherent sattva with sthira's quality of tamas. In the case of Cancer, the

inherent sattva blends with chara's rajas.

 

In this way, it all makes lovely sense and has a nice harmony.

 

It is also interesting to differentiate the varnas. For example both the Sun and

Mars are Ksatriyas, but the Sun is a sattvic ksatriya, while Mars is a tamasic

Ksatriya. That nicely describes the difference in the nature of the Sun and

Mars. The Moon is a sattvic vaishya, while mercury is a rajasic vaishya. Jupiter

a sattvic brahman while Venus is a rajasic bhrahman. Saturn, Rahu and Ketu are

all tamasic, but Saturn is structured and behaves as a shudra, whereas Rahu and

Ketu are lawless and behave as mlecchas.

 

It all makes very nice sense, in my opinion.

 

Another thing very interesting to note is that the earth element pertains to

vaishyas, the fire element to kshatriyas, the water element to brahmanas, and

the air element to shudras.

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara

 

 

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Namaste friends,

 

I sent more than two messages in the morning on this thread " Re: Tri-guna of

Taurus and Gemini " around 1030 hours IST, none has appeared so far.  I dont

know the reasons.... I send it once again... if they appear twice in your mail

boxes, please bear with me.

 

With regards,

Sivaprakasam

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vic DiCara <vicdicara

jyotish-vidya

Fri, 19 March, 2010 2:35:56 PM

Re: Re: Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

 

 

Dear Krishna and All,

 

In my experience, the most essential key to really grasping the shastras is

*context*. In this particular case we find there is basically one shloka for

each rashi. We find that Parashara has a group of qualities, and in each shloka

he enumerates the way each rasha behaves in each category. Every shloka

describes a guna for example. Therefore if we find one or two which do not, we

suspect it is an error in translation.

 

Sanskrit translators really have a difficult task and they very rarely do a

passable job. Translations of Vedic shastras are extremely poor, in my opinion.

It is very difficult to be fair, because one must have a mastery of three

difficult subjects: (1) English, (2) Sanskrit and (3) Jyotish.

 

So, therefore if there are some verses which the English lacks a specific for

Guna, but for every other rashi parashara has enumerated the guna - we are quite

suspicious of an oversight in translation. Upon closer examination of the

shlokas missing the English translations for specifications of Guna, we find

words in Sanskrit which pertain to the Gunas. It is extremely prudent and wise

for us at this stage to understand that it is a mistake in translation.

 

Thus we find confidently that Taurus is rajasic, Gemini tamasic, and Scorpio

rajasic.

 

Mrs. Wendy has brought up the topic that dvisvabhava relates to sattva-guna,

chara to rajo-guna and sthira to tamo-guna. I find this thoroughly reasonable

and valid personally. However, the two exist side by side, creating distinctions

among the signs. Pisces and Sagittarius, for example are thoroughly sattvic

signs, because they have the quality of sattva by their own nature, and their

" guna " (as it is literally called, no?) also has the quality of sattva, being

dvi-svabhavika. Leo and Cancer, on the other hand are not as purely sattvic as

Sagittarius and Pisces. Because in the case of Leo, it's being sthira blends

it's inherent sattva with sthira's quality of tamas. In the case of Cancer, the

inherent sattva blends with chara's rajas.

 

In this way, it all makes lovely sense and has a nice harmony.

 

It is also interesting to differentiate the varnas. For example both the Sun and

Mars are Ksatriyas, but the Sun is a sattvic ksatriya, while Mars is a tamasic

Ksatriya. That nicely describes the difference in the nature of the Sun and

Mars. The Moon is a sattvic vaishya, while mercury is a rajasic vaishya. Jupiter

a sattvic brahman while Venus is a rajasic bhrahman. Saturn, Rahu and Ketu are

all tamasic, but Saturn is structured and behaves as a shudra, whereas Rahu and

Ketu are lawless and behave as mlecchas.

 

It all makes very nice sense, in my opinion.

 

Another thing very interesting to note is that the earth element pertains to

vaishyas, the fire element to kshatriyas, the water element to brahmanas, and

the air element to shudras.

 

Yours,

Vic DiCara

 

On 2010/03/19, at 16:55, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

 

> Dear Gopi ji,

>

> One is free to draw conclusions. However, Sharma's translation says - sharp

> forepart (sharp like sting).

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:56 PM, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 > wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Dear Krishna ji/vic ji,

>> the word teekshanagro could mean Rajas(rajo guna) also.Sanskrit has got

>> many meanings to a word than any other language.Hence it is also called

>> language of gods!!...

>> More over Mars/8H of natural zodiac can not be satwic(logical i

>> believe).... ......... I have my own reservations about it since it could

>> only be Rajasic/tamasic. My personal opinion goes(though doesnt matter)

>> to Tamasic since Aries is Rajasic..... ........

>> Love and regards,

>> gopi.

>>

>> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya% 40. com>,

>> Krishnamurthy Seetharama

>> <kmurthys58@ ...> wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Vic,

>>>

>>> The word is 'Teekshnagro' meaning sharp front end. That may not mean

>> rajas.

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> Krishna

>>>

>>>

>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Vic DiCara vicdicara@.. . wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Dear Krishna,

>>>>

>>>> It seems the translator takes the sanskrit for " sharp " to also mean

>>>> " passionate " which refers to rajas, rajo-guna. Can you locate that

>> Sanskrit

>>>> word? I apologize that I can't access the Sanskrit for BPHS right

>> now.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks,

>>>> Vic

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On 2010/03/19, at 15:10, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Dear Vic,

>>>>>

>>>>> Yes, it only says 'Brahmin'. So it is only varna. There is no

>> mention of

>>>>> Guna here.

>>>>>

>>>>> Regards,

>>>>> Krishna

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Vic DiCara

>> vicdicara@.. .<vicdicara% 40gmail.com> >

>>

>>>> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear Krishna,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Did my previous post on this topic make it to the group? I wanted

>> to ask

>>>> on

>>>>>> which basis you say that Scorpio is Sattvic? It appears to me

>> that

>>>> Parashara

>>>>>> describes it's varna as brahmin but it's guna as rajas. My

>> Parashara's

>>>> Light

>>>>>> is crashing when I try to open the sanskrit BPHS. Can you kindly

>> check

>>>> the

>>>>>> Sanskrit for BPHS 4.16?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The english is: " denotes brahmins " ... " is very sharp

>> (passionate) "

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On 2010/03/19, at 10:24, Krishnamurthy Seetharama wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> If anyone has any inputs about the included message pls. do

>> share.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>> Krishna

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

>>>>>>> kmurthys58@. .. <kmurthys58% 40gmail.com>

>>

>> <kmurthys58% 40gmail.com> >

>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Sun, Moon and Jupiter are Satvik planets and so are the signs

>> owned by

>>>>>>>> them.

>>>>>>>> Venus is Rajasik and so are the signs owned by it.

>>>>>>>> Saturn is Tamasik and so are the signs owned by it.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> But, such a consistency is not seen for Mercury and Mars.

>> Mercury is a

>>>>>>>> Rajasik planet while the signs owned by it are both Tamasik.

>> Similarly

>>>>>> Mars

>>>>>>>> is Tamasik while Aries is said to be Rajasik and Scorpio to be

>> Satvik.

>>>> I

>>>>>> am

>>>>>>>> not able to comprehend this deviation for Mercury and Mars.

>> Please

>>>> shed

>>>>>> some

>>>>>>>> light on this.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>>> Krishna

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mrs.Wendy

>> jyotishvidya@ ...<jyotishvidya %40bigpond. com>

>>

>>>> <jyotishvidya% 40bigpond. com>

>>>>

>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Dear Vic,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Taurus is rajaguna. Gemini is tamas...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Best Wishes

>>>>>>>>> Mrs.Wendy

>>>>>>>>> http://JyotishVidya .com <http://jyotishvidya .com/>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> ============ =======

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Vic DiCara

>>>>>>>>> Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:52 PM

>>>>>>>>> jyotish-vidya<jyotish-vidya% 40. com>

>> <jyotish-vidya% 40. com><jyotish- vidya%

>>>> 40. com><jyotish- vidya%

>>>>

>>>>>> 40. com>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Tri-guna of Taurus and Gemini

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> A question for any and all:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> In BPHS Ch.4, the esteemed author describes the triguna of

>> each

>>>> rashi,

>>>>>>>>> EXCEPT Taurus and Gemini. Are these described/ defined

>> anywhere? What

>>>>>> is the

>>>>>>>>> triguna of these?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Thank you,

>>>>>>>>> Vic DiCara

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of

>> virus

>>>>>>>>> signature database 4953 (20100317) __________

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> http://www.eset. com

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

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