Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dear Nilesh ji, Namaste, Parashara has given outcomes of dashas and antradashas in BPHS chapter 52 onwards. Here the placement of antradasha lord with respect to Mahadasha lord is taken into consideration as well as the bhava placement of the mahadasha/antradasha in the natal chart. The relationship of the mahadasha lord and the antradasha lord is also considered. as naturally if it is friendly, some positive outcomes can be expected, and vice versa. Shani's antradasha in sun mahadasha is generally better than sun antradasha in shani's mahadasha.. please reflect on this!!! warmest regards Sheevani jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27 wrote: > > Dear Group, > > How are antardasa's in a dasa period analyzed? > > The reason for this question is the fact that certain antardasa's are always considered bad , for e.g Saturn's antardasa in Sun Dasa or > Rahu in Moon etc. > > Can such periods be good based on the placement of the planets. > Do we look at the relationship of the planets concerned, > the relative placement wrt each other, (9th /5th from each other,4th/10th from each other etc) > innate strength of the planets? > > What else do we look at ? > > > Best Regards > > Nilesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dear Sheevaniji, Ya you are right,BPHS has mentioned the outcomes for dashas and antardashas, however they are generic in nature. What I wanted to know is apart from the generic aspects of the outcome what are the parameters that need to be examined to come out with a forecast. Warm Regards Nilesh jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " <sheevani147 wrote: > > Dear Nilesh ji, > > Namaste, > > Parashara has given outcomes of dashas and antradashas in BPHS chapter 52 onwards. > > Here the placement of antradasha lord with respect to Mahadasha lord is taken into consideration as well as the bhava placement of the mahadasha/antradasha in the natal chart. The relationship of the mahadasha lord and the antradasha lord is also considered. as naturally if it is friendly, some positive outcomes can be expected, and vice versa. > > Shani's antradasha in sun mahadasha is generally better than sun antradasha in shani's mahadasha.. please reflect on this!!! > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > > jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > How are antardasa's in a dasa period analyzed? > > > > The reason for this question is the fact that certain antardasa's are always considered bad , for e.g Saturn's antardasa in Sun Dasa or > > Rahu in Moon etc. > > > > Can such periods be good based on the placement of the planets. > > Do we look at the relationship of the planets concerned, > > the relative placement wrt each other, (9th /5th from each other,4th/10th from each other etc) > > innate strength of the planets? > > > > What else do we look at ? > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Nilesh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dear Nilesh ji, This comes down to each individual's chart reading technics,, and people do have own preferences.. For me, I look at dasha lord,his natural significance, karkas, his strength,(shadbala) his placement in which house,aspects and conjuctions, his relationship with respect to lagna lord and houses owned,which rashi dasha lord is placed in, look at tattwa compatiblity of rashi and them come to a rough estimate the mahadasha results, Do the same for antra dasha planet. Check relationship between dasha and antra, Finally check the major transits of jupiter, shani and rahu/ketu, especially if it is conected with the houses or period(dasha/antra) If I have ommited anything, kindly forgive as I am writing from the top of my head, and the mind works faster than the hand that writes. Add to the above your own personal experiences gained from looking at charts of others over a period of time. warmest regards Sheevani jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27 wrote: > > Dear Sheevaniji, > > Ya you are right,BPHS has mentioned the outcomes for dashas and antardashas, however they are generic in nature. > > What I wanted to know is apart from the generic aspects of the outcome what are the parameters that need to be examined to come out with a forecast. > > Warm Regards > > Nilesh > > > > jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@> wrote: > > > > Dear Nilesh ji, > > > > Namaste, > > > > Parashara has given outcomes of dashas and antradashas in BPHS chapter 52 onwards. > > > > Here the placement of antradasha lord with respect to Mahadasha lord is taken into consideration as well as the bhava placement of the mahadasha/antradasha in the natal chart. The relationship of the mahadasha lord and the antradasha lord is also considered. as naturally if it is friendly, some positive outcomes can be expected, and vice versa. > > > > Shani's antradasha in sun mahadasha is generally better than sun antradasha in shani's mahadasha.. please reflect on this!!! > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > How are antardasa's in a dasa period analyzed? > > > > > > The reason for this question is the fact that certain antardasa's are always considered bad , for e.g Saturn's antardasa in Sun Dasa or > > > Rahu in Moon etc. > > > > > > Can such periods be good based on the placement of the planets. > > > Do we look at the relationship of the planets concerned, > > > the relative placement wrt each other, (9th /5th from each other,4th/10th from each other etc) > > > innate strength of the planets? > > > > > > What else do we look at ? > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dear Nilesh ji, I also forgot to mention nakshatras, lordships of the nakshatras and degree the planets is placed in to determine awastha of planet, and also lagna degree as a marker. I also use mainly birthchart, chalit(bhava) chart and Navamsha chart mainly. But every astrologer has his own methodology,, to each his own. warmest regards Sheevani jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " <sheevani147 wrote: > > Dear Nilesh ji, > > This comes down to each individual's chart reading technics,, and people do have own preferences.. > > For me, > > I look at dasha lord,his natural significance, karkas, his strength,(shadbala) his placement in which house,aspects and conjuctions, his relationship with respect to lagna lord and houses owned,which rashi dasha lord is placed in, look at tattwa compatiblity of rashi and them come to a rough estimate the mahadasha results, > > Do the same for antra dasha planet. > > Check relationship between dasha and antra, > > Finally check the major transits of jupiter, shani and rahu/ketu, especially if it is conected with the houses or period(dasha/antra) > > If I have ommited anything, kindly forgive as I am writing from the top of my head, and the mind works faster than the hand that writes. > > Add to the above your own personal experiences gained from looking at charts of others over a period of time. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > > jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sheevaniji, > > > > Ya you are right,BPHS has mentioned the outcomes for dashas and antardashas, however they are generic in nature. > > > > What I wanted to know is apart from the generic aspects of the outcome what are the parameters that need to be examined to come out with a forecast. > > > > Warm Regards > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nilesh ji, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Parashara has given outcomes of dashas and antradashas in BPHS chapter 52 onwards. > > > > > > Here the placement of antradasha lord with respect to Mahadasha lord is taken into consideration as well as the bhava placement of the mahadasha/antradasha in the natal chart. The relationship of the mahadasha lord and the antradasha lord is also considered. as naturally if it is friendly, some positive outcomes can be expected, and vice versa. > > > > > > Shani's antradasha in sun mahadasha is generally better than sun antradasha in shani's mahadasha.. please reflect on this!!! > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > How are antardasa's in a dasa period analyzed? > > > > > > > > The reason for this question is the fact that certain antardasa's are always considered bad , for e.g Saturn's antardasa in Sun Dasa or > > > > Rahu in Moon etc. > > > > > > > > Can such periods be good based on the placement of the planets. > > > > Do we look at the relationship of the planets concerned, > > > > the relative placement wrt each other, (9th /5th from each other,4th/10th from each other etc) > > > > innate strength of the planets? > > > > > > > > What else do we look at ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dear sheevani , Nilesh ji nad al group member ,,  according to me ,, there in no thumb rule in antar dasha prediction as such ,, we have to take various other thing into consideration to know that shani antarshasa in sun dasha is good or bad ,, it also too depend upon the following  1) which house the plant belong from the moon 2) which house the panet belong in the ruling dasha planet 3) in whose nakshastra the shani or surya is present,, 4) the degree of planet 5) whats it position in niryan bhav chalit nad bhav chalit ,,  if ther is any thumb rule than ,, any body could say ,, ur having shani under surya ,, so be prepare for hardship ,, many thing had to be taken under consideration before making prediction accoringf to me ,,  rgds Vejai --- On Wed, 31/3/10, Sheevani <sheevani147 wrote: Sheevani <sheevani147 Re: Interpreting the antardasas jyotish-vidya Wednesday, 31 March, 2010, 10:41 AM  Dear Nilesh ji, Namaste, Parashara has given outcomes of dashas and antradashas in BPHS chapter 52 onwards. Here the placement of antradasha lord with respect to Mahadasha lord is taken into consideration as well as the bhava placement of the mahadasha/antradash a in the natal chart. The relationship of the mahadasha lord and the antradasha lord is also considered. as naturally if it is friendly, some positive outcomes can be expected, and vice versa. Shani's antradasha in sun mahadasha is generally better than sun antradasha in shani's mahadasha.. please reflect on this!!! warmest regards Sheevani jyotish-vidya, " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Group, > > How are antardasa's in a dasa period analyzed? > > The reason for this question is the fact that certain antardasa's are always considered bad , for e.g Saturn's antardasa in Sun Dasa or > Rahu in Moon etc. > > Can such periods be good based on the placement of the planets. > Do we look at the relationship of the planets concerned, > the relative placement wrt each other, (9th /5th from each other,4th/10th from each other etc) > innate strength of the planets? > > What else do we look at ? > > > Best Regards > > Nilesh > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dear Vejai-Ji, Namaste, I have not disagreeed with you, If you read carefully I have covered all things you mention except for taking the bhavas from moon.. After all " to err is human " and i did apologise for any ommisions. I suggest to Nilesh to look at the generic phal given by parashara and compare the chart taking into account factors that can influence or change outcome. I also said this works for me, and every person has his own ways and i respect that. I am not teaching here, just sharing my own experience as I too struggled initially to get a method that was logical and worked. warmest regards Sheevani jyotish-vidya , Vejai S <astrovejai wrote: > > Dear sheevani , Nilesh ji nad al group member ,, >  > according to me ,, there in no thumb rule in antar dasha prediction as such ,, > we have to take various other thing into consideration to know that shani antarshasa in sun dasha is good or bad ,, it also too depend upon the following >  > 1) which house the plant belong from the moon > 2) which house the panet belong in the ruling dasha planet > 3) in whose nakshastra the shani or surya is present,, > 4) the degree of planet > 5) whats it position in niryan bhav chalit nad bhav chalit ,, >  > if ther is any thumb rule than ,, any body could say ,, ur having shani under surya ,, so be prepare for hardship ,, many thing had to be taken under consideration before making prediction accoringf to me ,, >  > rgds > Vejai > > --- On Wed, 31/3/10, Sheevani <sheevani147 wrote: > > > Sheevani <sheevani147 > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, 31 March, 2010, 10:41 AM > > >  > > > > Dear Nilesh ji, > > Namaste, > > Parashara has given outcomes of dashas and antradashas in BPHS chapter 52 onwards. > > Here the placement of antradasha lord with respect to Mahadasha lord is taken into consideration as well as the bhava placement of the mahadasha/antradash a in the natal chart. The relationship of the mahadasha lord and the antradasha lord is also considered. as naturally if it is friendly, some positive outcomes can be expected, and vice versa. > > Shani's antradasha in sun mahadasha is generally better than sun antradasha in shani's mahadasha.. please reflect on this!!! > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > jyotish-vidya, " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > How are antardasa's in a dasa period analyzed? > > > > The reason for this question is the fact that certain antardasa's are always considered bad , for e.g Saturn's antardasa in Sun Dasa or > > Rahu in Moon etc. > > > > Can such periods be good based on the placement of the planets. > > Do we look at the relationship of the planets concerned, > > the relative placement wrt each other, (9th /5th from each other,4th/10th from each other etc) > > innate strength of the planets? > > > > What else do we look at ? > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Nilesh > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Sheevani ji, // " to err is human " and i did apologise for any ommisions.// to err is human mind!!Apology is also needed according to me since you are apologising to another human mind!!.. // I too struggled initially to get a method that was logical and worked.// Method should be both logical and astrological i suppose.. both you and Veejai ji are right since both of you are telling the same thing in your own way that Neelesh ji also have to struggle and find his own way!!!!....That's why jyotish(science of light) is great. Regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " <sheevani147 wrote: > > Dear Vejai-Ji, > > Namaste, > > I have not disagreeed with you, If you read carefully I have covered all things you mention except for taking the bhavas from moon.. > > After all " to err is human " and i did apologise for any ommisions. > > I suggest to Nilesh to look at the generic phal given by parashara and compare the chart taking into account factors that can influence or change outcome. > > I also said this works for me, and every person has his own ways and i respect that. > > I am not teaching here, just sharing my own experience as I too struggled initially to get a method that was logical and worked. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > jyotish-vidya , Vejai S astrovejai@ wrote: > > > > Dear sheevani , Nilesh ji nad al group member ,, > >  > > according to me ,, there in no thumb rule in antar dasha prediction as such ,, > > we have to take various other thing into consideration to know that shani antarshasa in sun dasha is good or bad ,, it also too depend upon the following > >  > > 1) which house the plant belong from the moon > > 2) which house the panet belong in the ruling dasha planet > > 3) in whose nakshastra the shani or surya is present,, > > 4) the degree of planet > > 5) whats it position in niryan bhav chalit nad bhav chalit ,, > >  > > if ther is any thumb rule than ,, any body could say ,, ur having shani under surya ,, so be prepare for hardship ,, many thing had to be taken under consideration before making prediction accoringf to me ,, > >  > > rgds > > Vejai > > > > --- On Wed, 31/3/10, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote: > > > > > > Sheevani sheevani147@ > > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > jyotish-vidya > > Wednesday, 31 March, 2010, 10:41 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Nilesh ji, > > > > Namaste, > > > > Parashara has given outcomes of dashas and antradashas in BPHS chapter 52 onwards. > > > > Here the placement of antradasha lord with respect to Mahadasha lord is taken into consideration as well as the bhava placement of the mahadasha/antradash a in the natal chart. The relationship of the mahadasha lord and the antradasha lord is also considered. as naturally if it is friendly, some positive outcomes can be expected, and vice versa. > > > > Shani's antradasha in sun mahadasha is generally better than sun antradasha in shani's mahadasha.. please reflect on this!!! > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > jyotish-vidya, " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > How are antardasa's in a dasa period analyzed? > > > > > > The reason for this question is the fact that certain antardasa's are always considered bad , for e.g Saturn's antardasa in Sun Dasa or > > > Rahu in Moon etc. > > > > > > Can such periods be good based on the placement of the planets. > > > Do we look at the relationship of the planets concerned, > > > the relative placement wrt each other, (9th /5th from each other,4th/10th from each other etc) > > > innate strength of the planets? > > > > > > What else do we look at ? > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Gopi Ji, Namaste. Indeed the human mind is a very complex yet facinating subject. It gives insight to the qualities of mercury and jupiter. A good mercury gives excellent communication skills, ability to gather and comprehend knowledge/information but to organise this information you need the administrative skills of a good strong jupiter. Only then you are able to apply the right information correctly and consistently. One has to be observant and try to understand how jupiter behaves in saggitarius lagna, pisces lagna and cancer lagna, there will be similarities yet there are differences. It is understanding these differences, that will sharpen your astrological skills. Similarly you can see the difference of jupiter in same sign in lagna, say cancer, due to the nakshatra it is placed in, punarvasu, pushya or asleesha. With experience, it all seem so simple, but to a novice, all this information is still in the hands of mercury,, and not been processed and sorted by jupiter, hence the difficulty in application. I too need the blessings of my jupiter for there is still too much mercury in me. warmest regards Sheevani jyotish-vidya , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Dear Sheevani ji, > // " to err is human " and i did apologise for any ommisions.// > to err is human mind!!Apology is also needed according to me since you > are apologising to another human mind!!.. > // I too struggled initially to get a method that was logical and > worked.// > Method should be both logical and astrological i suppose.. > both you and Veejai ji are right since both of you are telling the same > thing in your own way that Neelesh ji also have to struggle and find his > own way!!!!....That's why jyotish(science of light) is great. > Regards, > gopi. > > jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Vejai-Ji, > > > > Namaste, > > > > I have not disagreeed with you, If you read carefully I have covered > all things you mention except for taking the bhavas from moon.. > > > > After all " to err is human " and i did apologise for any ommisions. > > > > I suggest to Nilesh to look at the generic phal given by parashara and > compare the chart taking into account factors that can influence or > change outcome. > > > > I also said this works for me, and every person has his own ways and i > respect that. > > > > I am not teaching here, just sharing my own experience as I too > struggled initially to get a method that was logical and worked. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > jyotish-vidya , Vejai S astrovejai@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear sheevani , Nilesh ji nad al group member ,, > > >  > > > according to me ,, there in no thumb rule in antar dasha > prediction as such ,, > > > we have to take various other thing into consideration to know that > shani antarshasa in sun dasha is good or bad ,, it also too depend upon > the following > > >  > > > 1) which house the plant belong from the moon > > > 2) which house the panet belong in the ruling dasha planet > > > 3) in whose nakshastra the shani or surya is present,, > > > 4) the degree of planet > > > 5) whats it position in niryan bhav chalit nad bhav chalit ,, > > >  > > > if ther is any thumb rule than ,, any body could say ,, ur having > shani under surya ,, so be prepare for hardship ,, many thing had to be > taken under consideration before making prediction accoringf to me ,, > > >  > > > rgds > > > Vejai > > > > > > --- On Wed, 31/3/10, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sheevani sheevani147@ > > > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > > jyotish-vidya > > > Wednesday, 31 March, 2010, 10:41 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nilesh ji, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Parashara has given outcomes of dashas and antradashas in BPHS > chapter 52 onwards. > > > > > > Here the placement of antradasha lord with respect to Mahadasha lord > is taken into consideration as well as the bhava placement of the > mahadasha/antradash a in the natal chart. The relationship of the > mahadasha lord and the antradasha lord is also considered. as naturally > if it is friendly, some positive outcomes can be expected, and vice > versa. > > > > > > Shani's antradasha in sun mahadasha is generally better than sun > antradasha in shani's mahadasha.. please reflect on this!!! > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@ > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > How are antardasa's in a dasa period analyzed? > > > > > > > > The reason for this question is the fact that certain antardasa's > are always considered bad , for e.g Saturn's antardasa in Sun Dasa or > > > > Rahu in Moon etc. > > > > > > > > Can such periods be good based on the placement of the planets. > > > > Do we look at the relationship of the planets concerned, > > > > the relative placement wrt each other, (9th /5th from each > other,4th/10th from each other etc) > > > > innate strength of the planets? > > > > > > > > What else do we look at ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Namaste friends, After some uneasiness in the Group, the role of dasha lords is being discussed. A learned member is mentioning about the role of Jupiter for different rising lagnas that seems to be quite interesting. If anybody is interested cast the chart for the data appended below, the dasha operating is Jup/Jup/Mo. The rising sign is Cancer with 18:38:41 and Moon being in Taurus 00:32:01. Jupiter is ruler of 6th and 9th houses placed in the 3rd house with a malefic. He is married and having two children, a boy and a girl. A good friend of mine brought the chart to me first week of this month; I was not able to give my opinion on this sub-period of Jupiter unequivocally. I would like to add that this message should not be taken as testing the skill of the members. The purpose of posting this message is simply to understand the role of Jupiter in this chart in general and his role as a subperiod lord in particular. Male 16th May 1969 11:20 hours Arani, 12N40 79E17 Tamilnadu, India With regards, Sivaprakasam ________________________________ Sheevani <sheevani147 jyotish-vidya Thu, 1 April, 2010 2:13:23 PM Re: Interpreting the antardasas Dear Gopi Ji, Namaste. Indeed the human mind is a very complex yet facinating subject. It gives insight to the qualities of mercury and jupiter. A good mercury gives excellent communication skills, ability to gather and comprehend knowledge/informati on but to organise this information you need the administrative skills of a good strong jupiter. Only then you are able to apply the right information correctly and consistently. One has to be observant and try to understand how jupiter behaves in saggitarius lagna, pisces lagna and cancer lagna, there will be similarities yet there are differences. It is understanding these differences, that will sharpen your astrological skills. Similarly you can see the difference of jupiter in same sign in lagna, say cancer, due to the nakshatra it is placed in, punarvasu, pushya or asleesha. With experience, it all seem so simple, but to a novice, all this information is still in the hands of mercury,, and not been processed and sorted by jupiter, hence the difficulty in application. I too need the blessings of my jupiter for there is still too much mercury in me. warmest regards Sheevani Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 hahaha...Sheevani ji, that's why Mer and jup are very important for good astrologers.Good write up about them...... Warmest regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " <sheevani147 wrote: > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > Namaste. > > Indeed the human mind is a very complex yet facinating subject. > > It gives insight to the qualities of mercury and jupiter. A good mercury gives excellent communication skills, ability to gather and comprehend knowledge/information but to organise this information you need the administrative skills of a good strong jupiter. Only then you are able to apply the right information correctly and consistently. > > One has to be observant and try to understand how jupiter behaves in saggitarius lagna, pisces lagna and cancer lagna, there will be similarities yet there are differences. It is understanding these differences, that will sharpen your astrological skills. Similarly you can see the difference of jupiter in same sign in lagna, say cancer, due to the nakshatra it is placed in, punarvasu, pushya or asleesha. > > With experience, it all seem so simple, but to a novice, all this information is still in the hands of mercury,, and not been processed and sorted by jupiter, hence the difficulty in application. > > I too need the blessings of my jupiter for there is still too much mercury in me. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > jyotish-vidya , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > // " to err is human " and i did apologise for any ommisions.// > > to err is human mind!!Apology is also needed according to me since you > > are apologising to another human mind!!.. > > // I too struggled initially to get a method that was logical and > > worked.// > > Method should be both logical and astrological i suppose.. > > both you and Veejai ji are right since both of you are telling the same > > thing in your own way that Neelesh ji also have to struggle and find his > > own way!!!!....That's why jyotish(science of light) is great. > > Regards, > > gopi. > > > > jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vejai-Ji, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > I have not disagreeed with you, If you read carefully I have covered > > all things you mention except for taking the bhavas from moon.. > > > > > > After all " to err is human " and i did apologise for any ommisions. > > > > > > I suggest to Nilesh to look at the generic phal given by parashara and > > compare the chart taking into account factors that can influence or > > change outcome. > > > > > > I also said this works for me, and every person has his own ways and i > > respect that. > > > > > > I am not teaching here, just sharing my own experience as I too > > struggled initially to get a method that was logical and worked. > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , Vejai S astrovejai@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear sheevani , Nilesh ji nad al group member ,, > > > >  > > > > according to me ,, there in no thumb rule in antar dasha > > prediction as such ,, > > > > we have to take various other thing into consideration to know that > > shani antarshasa in sun dasha is good or bad ,, it also too depend upon > > the following > > > >  > > > > 1) which house the plant belong from the moon > > > > 2) which house the panet belong in the ruling dasha planet > > > > 3) in whose nakshastra the shani or surya is present,, > > > > 4) the degree of planet > > > > 5) whats it position in niryan bhav chalit nad bhav chalit ,, > > > >  > > > > if ther is any thumb rule than ,, any body could say ,, ur having > > shani under surya ,, so be prepare for hardship ,, many thing had to be > > taken under consideration before making prediction accoringf to me ,, > > > >  > > > > rgds > > > > Vejai > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 31/3/10, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sheevani sheevani147@ > > > > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > Wednesday, 31 March, 2010, 10:41 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nilesh ji, > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Parashara has given outcomes of dashas and antradashas in BPHS > > chapter 52 onwards. > > > > > > > > Here the placement of antradasha lord with respect to Mahadasha lord > > is taken into consideration as well as the bhava placement of the > > mahadasha/antradash a in the natal chart. The relationship of the > > mahadasha lord and the antradasha lord is also considered. as naturally > > if it is friendly, some positive outcomes can be expected, and vice > > versa. > > > > > > > > Shani's antradasha in sun mahadasha is generally better than sun > > antradasha in shani's mahadasha.. please reflect on this!!! > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > How are antardasa's in a dasa period analyzed? > > > > > > > > > > The reason for this question is the fact that certain antardasa's > > are always considered bad , for e.g Saturn's antardasa in Sun Dasa or > > > > > Rahu in Moon etc. > > > > > > > > > > Can such periods be good based on the placement of the planets. > > > > > Do we look at the relationship of the planets concerned, > > > > > the relative placement wrt each other, (9th /5th from each > > other,4th/10th from each other etc) > > > > > innate strength of the planets? > > > > > > > > > > What else do we look at ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Sorry Sheevani ji, actually i wanted to type " apology is not needed " but just now saw i ended up writing the otherway round.But you did not take it serious.Thanks for your broad minded jup..My mer is in papakartari. Warmest regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Dear Sheevani ji, > // " to err is human " and i did apologise for any ommisions.// > to err is human mind!!Apology is also needed according to me since you > are apologising to another human mind!!.. > // I too struggled initially to get a method that was logical and > worked.// > Method should be both logical and astrological i suppose.. > both you and Veejai ji are right since both of you are telling the same > thing in your own way that Neelesh ji also have to struggle and find his > own way!!!!....That's why jyotish(science of light) is great. > Regards, > gopi. > > jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " sheevani147@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Vejai-Ji, > > > > Namaste, > > > > I have not disagreeed with you, If you read carefully I have covered > all things you mention except for taking the bhavas from moon.. > > > > After all " to err is human " and i did apologise for any ommisions. > > > > I suggest to Nilesh to look at the generic phal given by parashara and > compare the chart taking into account factors that can influence or > change outcome. > > > > I also said this works for me, and every person has his own ways and i > respect that. > > > > I am not teaching here, just sharing my own experience as I too > struggled initially to get a method that was logical and worked. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > jyotish-vidya , Vejai S astrovejai@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear sheevani , Nilesh ji nad al group member ,, > > >  > > > according to me ,, there in no thumb rule in antar dasha > prediction as such ,, > > > we have to take various other thing into consideration to know that > shani antarshasa in sun dasha is good or bad ,, it also too depend upon > the following > > >  > > > 1) which house the plant belong from the moon > > > 2) which house the panet belong in the ruling dasha planet > > > 3) in whose nakshastra the shani or surya is present,, > > > 4) the degree of planet > > > 5) whats it position in niryan bhav chalit nad bhav chalit ,, > > >  > > > if ther is any thumb rule than ,, any body could say ,, ur having > shani under surya ,, so be prepare for hardship ,, many thing had to be > taken under consideration before making prediction accoringf to me ,, > > >  > > > rgds > > > Vejai > > > > > > --- On Wed, 31/3/10, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sheevani sheevani147@ > > > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > > jyotish-vidya > > > Wednesday, 31 March, 2010, 10:41 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nilesh ji, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Parashara has given outcomes of dashas and antradashas in BPHS > chapter 52 onwards. > > > > > > Here the placement of antradasha lord with respect to Mahadasha lord > is taken into consideration as well as the bhava placement of the > mahadasha/antradash a in the natal chart. The relationship of the > mahadasha lord and the antradasha lord is also considered. as naturally > if it is friendly, some positive outcomes can be expected, and vice > versa. > > > > > > Shani's antradasha in sun mahadasha is generally better than sun > antradasha in shani's mahadasha.. please reflect on this!!! > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@ > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > How are antardasa's in a dasa period analyzed? > > > > > > > > The reason for this question is the fact that certain antardasa's > are always considered bad , for e.g Saturn's antardasa in Sun Dasa or > > > > Rahu in Moon etc. > > > > > > > > Can such periods be good based on the placement of the planets. > > > > Do we look at the relationship of the planets concerned, > > > > the relative placement wrt each other, (9th /5th from each > other,4th/10th from each other etc) > > > > innate strength of the planets? > > > > > > > > What else do we look at ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Gopi ji, Namaste, Please dont worry, no offence taken. Fortunately I am running Jupiter MD not Mars MD.. Jupiter in 8H, so time to dig deeper for hidden gems. warmest regards Sheevani jyotish-vidya , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Sorry Sheevani ji, > actually i wanted to type " apology is not needed " but just now saw i > ended up writing the otherway round.But you did not take it > serious.Thanks for your broad minded jup..My mer is in papakartari. > Warmest regards, > gopi. > jyotish-vidya , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > // " to err is human " and i did apologise for any ommisions.// > > to err is human mind!!Apology is also needed according to me since you > > are apologising to another human mind!!.. > > // I too struggled initially to get a method that was logical and > > worked.// > > Method should be both logical and astrological i suppose.. > > both you and Veejai ji are right since both of you are telling the > same > > thing in your own way that Neelesh ji also have to struggle and find > his > > own way!!!!....That's why jyotish(science of light) is great. > > Regards, > > gopi. > > > > jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " sheevani147@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vejai-Ji, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > I have not disagreeed with you, If you read carefully I have covered > > all things you mention except for taking the bhavas from moon.. > > > > > > After all " to err is human " and i did apologise for any ommisions. > > > > > > I suggest to Nilesh to look at the generic phal given by parashara > and > > compare the chart taking into account factors that can influence or > > change outcome. > > > > > > I also said this works for me, and every person has his own ways and > i > > respect that. > > > > > > I am not teaching here, just sharing my own experience as I too > > struggled initially to get a method that was logical and worked. > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , Vejai S astrovejai@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear sheevani , Nilesh ji nad al group member ,, > > > >  > > > > according to me ,, there in no thumb rule in antar dasha > > prediction as such ,, > > > > we have to take various other thing into consideration to know > that > > shani antarshasa in sun dasha is good or bad ,, it also too depend > upon > > the following > > > >  > > > > 1) which house the plant belong from the moon > > > > 2) which house the panet belong in the ruling dasha planet > > > > 3) in whose nakshastra the shani or surya is present,, > > > > 4) the degree of planet > > > > 5) whats it position in niryan bhav chalit nad bhav chalit ,, > > > >  > > > > if ther is any thumb rule than ,, any body could say ,, ur having > > shani under surya ,, so be prepare for hardship ,, many thing had to > be > > taken under consideration before making prediction accoringf to me ,, > > > >  > > > > rgds > > > > Vejai > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 31/3/10, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sheevani sheevani147@ > > > > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > Wednesday, 31 March, 2010, 10:41 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nilesh ji, > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Parashara has given outcomes of dashas and antradashas in BPHS > > chapter 52 onwards. > > > > > > > > Here the placement of antradasha lord with respect to Mahadasha > lord > > is taken into consideration as well as the bhava placement of the > > mahadasha/antradash a in the natal chart. The relationship of the > > mahadasha lord and the antradasha lord is also considered. as > naturally > > if it is friendly, some positive outcomes can be expected, and vice > > versa. > > > > > > > > Shani's antradasha in sun mahadasha is generally better than sun > > antradasha in shani's mahadasha.. please reflect on this!!! > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > How are antardasa's in a dasa period analyzed? > > > > > > > > > > The reason for this question is the fact that certain > antardasa's > > are always considered bad , for e.g Saturn's antardasa in Sun Dasa or > > > > > Rahu in Moon etc. > > > > > > > > > > Can such periods be good based on the placement of the planets. > > > > > Do we look at the relationship of the planets concerned, > > > > > the relative placement wrt each other, (9th /5th from each > > other,4th/10th from each other etc) > > > > > innate strength of the planets? > > > > > > > > > > What else do we look at ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get > it > > NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Sivaprakasam ji, Namaste. Please forgive me but the giving of reading is not encouraged in this forum. As you asked for guidance I can only highlight factors to consider. Jupiter-Jupiter period started from Aug 2008- Oct 2010 Jupiter owns 6H,9H and is placed in 3H, so these houses will be benefitted most during this period, with 9H more so as jupiter is aspecting it. Condition of Jupiter.. Placed in 3h, enemy rasi, nak krittika(friendly sun nakshatra),aspecting 7H,9H and 11H. Aspected by exalted venus and rahu from 9H and conjuct ketu (mixed malefic and benefic effects) Jupiter is weak in shadbala, in mrityu avastha and dukhita, hence unable to deliver full benefic results. So native feels a lack of satisfaction as results are not up to his expectations. Looking at transits over this period, jupiter was in shani rashi's mainly, makara 7H(jup deb) and kumbh(8H) and shani in chart is deb in 10H. Shani meanwhile was transiting 2 and 3H during this period.Shani transit in 3h, will increse desire to improve material gains. Overall I feel this person wouldnt have made much change in his situations. Financal gains were ofset with increased expenses etc but this person would gain in spiritual/religious activities. The period after May 2010 will see some improvement in material and spiritual gains when jupiter transits to pisces. warmest regards Sheevani jyotish-vidya , Sivaprakasam KPM <sivaprakasamkpm wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > After some uneasiness in the Group, the role of dasha lords is being discussed. A learned member is mentioning about the role of Jupiter for different rising lagnas that seems to be quite interesting. If anybody is interested cast the chart for the data appended below, the dasha operating is Jup/Jup/Mo. The rising sign is Cancer with 18:38:41 and Moon being in Taurus 00:32:01. Jupiter is ruler of 6th and 9th houses placed in the 3rd house with a malefic. He is married and having two children, a boy and a girl. A good friend of mine brought the chart to me first week of this month; I was not able to give my opinion on this sub-period of Jupiter unequivocally. > > I would like to add that this message should not be taken as testing the skill of the members. The purpose of posting this message is simply to understand the role of Jupiter in this chart in general and his role as a subperiod lord in particular. > > Male > 16th May 1969 > > 11:20 hours > Arani, 12N40 79E17 > Tamilnadu, > India > > With regards, > Sivaprakasam > > > > ________________________________ > Sheevani <sheevani147 > jyotish-vidya > Thu, 1 April, 2010 2:13:23 PM > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > Namaste. > > Indeed the human mind is a very complex yet facinating subject. > > It gives insight to the qualities of mercury and jupiter. A good mercury gives excellent communication skills, ability to gather and comprehend knowledge/informati on but to organise this information you need the administrative skills of a good strong jupiter. Only then you are able to apply the right information correctly and consistently. > > One has to be observant and try to understand how jupiter behaves in saggitarius lagna, pisces lagna and cancer lagna, there will be similarities yet there are differences. It is understanding these differences, that will sharpen your astrological skills. Similarly you can see the difference of jupiter in same sign in lagna, say cancer, due to the nakshatra it is placed in, punarvasu, pushya or asleesha. > > With experience, it all seem so simple, but to a novice, all this information is still in the hands of mercury,, and not been processed and sorted by jupiter, hence the difficulty in application. > > I too need the blessings of my jupiter for there is still too much mercury in me. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Sheevani ji, Brief and logical:) I like your presentation. blessings, Renu jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " <sheevani147 wrote: > > Dear Sivaprakasam ji, > > Namaste. > > Please forgive me but the giving of reading is not encouraged in this forum. > > As you asked for guidance I can only highlight factors to consider. > > Jupiter-Jupiter period started from Aug 2008- Oct 2010 > > Jupiter owns 6H,9H and is placed in 3H, so these houses will be benefitted most during this period, with 9H more so as jupiter is aspecting it. > > Condition of Jupiter.. > > Placed in 3h, enemy rasi, nak krittika(friendly sun nakshatra),aspecting 7H,9H and 11H. Aspected by exalted venus and rahu from 9H and conjuct ketu (mixed malefic and benefic effects) > > Jupiter is weak in shadbala, in mrityu avastha and dukhita, hence unable to deliver full benefic results. So native feels a lack of satisfaction as results are not up to his expectations. > > Looking at transits over this period, jupiter was in shani rashi's mainly, makara 7H(jup deb) and kumbh(8H) and shani in chart is deb in 10H. Shani meanwhile was transiting 2 and 3H during this period.Shani transit in 3h, will increse desire to improve material gains. Overall I feel this person wouldnt have made much change in his situations. Financal gains were ofset with increased expenses etc but this person would gain in spiritual/religious activities. > > The period after May 2010 will see some improvement in material and spiritual gains when jupiter transits to pisces. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > > > jyotish-vidya , Sivaprakasam KPM <sivaprakasamkpm@> wrote: > > > > Namaste friends, > > > > After some uneasiness in the Group, the role of dasha lords is being discussed. A learned member is mentioning about the role of Jupiter for different rising lagnas that seems to be quite interesting. If anybody is interested cast the chart for the data appended below, the dasha operating is Jup/Jup/Mo. The rising sign is Cancer with 18:38:41 and Moon being in Taurus 00:32:01. Jupiter is ruler of 6th and 9th houses placed in the 3rd house with a malefic. He is married and having two children, a boy and a girl. A good friend of mine brought the chart to me first week of this month; I was not able to give my opinion on this sub-period of Jupiter unequivocally. > > > > I would like to add that this message should not be taken as testing the skill of the members. The purpose of posting this message is simply to understand the role of Jupiter in this chart in general and his role as a subperiod lord in particular. > > > > Male > > 16th May 1969 > > > > 11:20 hours > > Arani, 12N40 79E17 > > Tamilnadu, > > India > > > > With regards, > > Sivaprakasam > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > jyotish-vidya > > Thu, 1 April, 2010 2:13:23 PM > > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > Indeed the human mind is a very complex yet facinating subject. > > > > It gives insight to the qualities of mercury and jupiter. A good mercury gives excellent communication skills, ability to gather and comprehend knowledge/informati on but to organise this information you need the administrative skills of a good strong jupiter. Only then you are able to apply the right information correctly and consistently. > > > > One has to be observant and try to understand how jupiter behaves in saggitarius lagna, pisces lagna and cancer lagna, there will be similarities yet there are differences. It is understanding these differences, that will sharpen your astrological skills. Similarly you can see the difference of jupiter in same sign in lagna, say cancer, due to the nakshatra it is placed in, punarvasu, pushya or asleesha. > > > > With experience, it all seem so simple, but to a novice, all this information is still in the hands of mercury,, and not been processed and sorted by jupiter, hence the difficulty in application. > > > > I too need the blessings of my jupiter for there is still too much mercury in me. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Sheevani,Sivaprakasam, and All, I just came online quickly to check times of Mass for tomorrow (at my local church) and saw this conversation which I'd like to respond to quickly, if I may... Firstly, I feel that this chart has been put forward as a (possible) study topic and not a request for a personal reading. So, if members are inclined, it might be useful for study. Sivaprakasam Wrote: ///Jupiter is weak in shadbala, in mrityu avastha and dukhita, hence unable to deliver full benefic results. So native feels a lack of satisfaction as results are not up to his expectations./// It's said that the full effects of a dasa do not (generally) fructify during its own bhukti...i.e. results not up to expectations. Best Wishes Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com =================== Sheevani Thursday, April 01, 2010 9:07 PM jyotish-vidya Re: Interpreting the antardasas Dear Sivaprakasam ji, Namaste. Please forgive me but the giving of reading is not encouraged in this forum. As you asked for guidance I can only highlight factors to consider. Jupiter-Jupiter period started from Aug 2008- Oct 2010 Jupiter owns 6H,9H and is placed in 3H, so these houses will be benefitted most during this period, with 9H more so as jupiter is aspecting it. Condition of Jupiter.. Placed in 3h, enemy rasi, nak krittika(friendly sun nakshatra),aspecting 7H,9H and 11H. Aspected by exalted venus and rahu from 9H and conjuct ketu (mixed malefic and benefic effects) Jupiter is weak in shadbala, in mrityu avastha and dukhita, hence unable to deliver full benefic results. So native feels a lack of satisfaction as results are not up to his expectations. Looking at transits over this period, jupiter was in shani rashi's mainly, makara 7H(jup deb) and kumbh(8H) and shani in chart is deb in 10H. Shani meanwhile was transiting 2 and 3H during this period.Shani transit in 3h, will increse desire to improve material gains. Overall I feel this person wouldnt have made much change in his situations. Financal gains were ofset with increased expenses etc but this person would gain in spiritual/religious activities. The period after May 2010 will see some improvement in material and spiritual gains when jupiter transits to pisces. warmest regards Sheevani jyotish-vidya , Sivaprakasam KPM <sivaprakasamkpm wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > After some uneasiness in the Group, the role of dasha lords is being discussed. A learned member is mentioning about the role of Jupiter for different rising lagnas that seems to be quite interesting. If anybody is interested cast the chart for the data appended below, the dasha operating is Jup/Jup/Mo. The rising sign is Cancer with 18:38:41 and Moon being in Taurus 00:32:01. Jupiter is ruler of 6th and 9th houses placed in the 3rd house with a malefic. He is married and having two children, a boy and a girl. A good friend of mine brought the chart to me first week of this month; I was not able to give my opinion on this sub-period of Jupiter unequivocally. > > I would like to add that this message should not be taken as testing the skill of the members. The purpose of posting this message is simply to understand the role of Jupiter in this chart in general and his role as a subperiod lord in particular. > > Male > 16th May 1969 > > 11:20 hours > Arani, 12N40 79E17 > Tamilnadu, > India > > With regards, > Sivaprakasam __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4992 (20100401) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Namaste Wendy Ji, >>Firstly, I feel that this chart has been put forward as a (possible) study topic and not a request for a personal reading. So, if members are inclined, it might be useful for study.>> Thanks. You understood my intention. Certainly, I did not need any reading on this chart. >>I just came online quickly to check times of Mass for tomorrow (at my local church) and saw this conversation which I'd like to respond to quickly, if I may...>> Tomorrow is Good Friday. Kindly attend to Prayers and Mass. You may like to examine the chart leisurely. >>Sivaprakasam Wrote: ///Jupiter is weak in shadbala, in mrityu avastha and dukhita, hence unable to deliver full benefic results. So native feels a lack of satisfaction as results are not up to his expectations.///>> This was written/posted by Sheevani ji and not by me. >It's said that the full effects of a dasa do not (generally) fructify during its own bhukti...i.e. results not up to expectations.> Yes. I agree with you. I was taught exactly so. With regards, Sivaprakasam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Namaste Sheevani Ji, Thanks for your guidance. With regards, Sivaprakasam ========================= jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " <sheevani147 wrote: > > Dear Sivaprakasam ji, > > Namaste. > > Please forgive me but the giving of reading is not encouraged in this forum. > > As you asked for guidance I can only highlight factors to consider. > > Jupiter-Jupiter period started from Aug 2008- Oct 2010 > > Jupiter owns 6H,9H and is placed in 3H, so these houses will be benefitted most during this period, with 9H more so as jupiter is aspecting it. > > Condition of Jupiter.. > > Placed in 3h, enemy rasi, nak krittika(friendly sun nakshatra),aspecting 7H,9H and 11H. Aspected by exalted venus and rahu from 9H and conjuct ketu (mixed malefic and benefic effects) > > Jupiter is weak in shadbala, in mrityu avastha and dukhita, hence unable to deliver full benefic results. So native feels a lack of satisfaction as results are not up to his expectations. > > Looking at transits over this period, jupiter was in shani rashi's mainly, makara 7H(jup deb) and kumbh(8H) and shani in chart is deb in 10H. Shani meanwhile was transiting 2 and 3H during this period.Shani transit in 3h, will increse desire to improve material gains. Overall I feel this person wouldnt have made much change in his situations. Financal gains were ofset with increased expenses etc but this person would gain in spiritual/religious activities. > > The period after May 2010 will see some improvement in material and spiritual gains when jupiter transits to pisces. > > warmest regards > Sheevani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Friends, Just now, I have received the news from my friend over telephone, the Native (younger brother of my friend) passed away on 30th March 2010 around 1400 hours in Chennai. The cremation took place yesterday i.e. on 31st March 2010. He was suffering from Cancer. He was suffering from intense pain. Cancer was deducted during Rahu/Mars/Moon. His kidney and liver were damaged extensively during the period of Jup/Jup. The 6th lord is retrograde and is in the 3rd house with a malefic. The Jupiter receives the aspect of an exalted planet, which is a natural benefic, from the 9th house (divine help) from lagna. There is no benefic planet in angles. There is no benefic influence on kendras. Saturn is in 10th house, debilitated 8th lord in a powerful kendra. Saturn is the karaka for Ayu and is weak. No benefic influence on Saturn. Jupiter the 9th lord ( a natural benefic and the lord of powerful trine) is placed in greater enemy's sign with a malefic. Jupiter is the weakest planet shadbala wise. Jupiter is placed in the Navamsa of Capricorn which is the sign falls in 7th house from Lagna proper. From the dasha lord Jupiter, Saturn is the 6th lord placed in the 8th house. Saturn is an unqualified killer. Saturn is the 7th and 8th lord from Lagna and placed in 12th from Moon. Lagna lord is in a fixed sign and 8th lord is in a movable sign that denotes medium life. Saturn is in a movable sign and Moon is in fixed sign that denotes medium life. I was not able to decide which sub-period was fatal for the native whether Jup/Jup or Jup/Sat. It is the period of 6th lord (Jup) from Lagna. It is the period of 8th lord (Jup) from Moon. Jupiter/Saturn is the major period of 6th and sub period of 8th lord. Dhanur is the moolatrikona rasi of Jupiter. Kumbha is the moolatrikona rasi of Saturn. It is a general rule, during a sub-period, the moolatrikona rasi of a planet takes precedence in giving results than that of the other rasi if the planet owns two houses in a chart. May the Departed Soul Rest in Peace. With regards, Sivaprakasam ================== jyotish-vidya , Sivaprakasam KPM <sivaprakasamkpm wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > After some uneasiness in the Group, the role of dasha lords is being discussed. A learned member is mentioning about the role of Jupiter for different rising lagnas that seems to be quite interesting. If anybody is interested cast the chart for the data appended below, the dasha operating is Jup/Jup/Mo. The rising sign is Cancer with 18:38:41 and Moon being in Taurus 00:32:01. Jupiter is ruler of 6th and 9th houses placed in the 3rd house with a malefic. He is married and having two children, a boy and a girl. A good friend of mine brought the chart to me first week of this month; I was not able to give my opinion on this sub-period of Jupiter unequivocally. > > I would like to add that this message should not be taken as testing the skill of the members. The purpose of posting this message is simply to understand the role of Jupiter in this chart in general and his role as a subperiod lord in particular. > > Male > 16th May 1969 > 11:20 hours > Arani, 12N40 79E17 > Tamilnadu, > India > > With regards, > Sivaprakasam > > ________________________________ > Sheevani <sheevani147 > jyotish-vidya > Thu, 1 April, 2010 2:13:23 PM > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > Dear Gopi Ji, > One has to be observant and try to understand how jupiter behaves in saggitarius lagna, pisces lagna and cancer lagna, there will be similarities yet there are differences. It is understanding these differences, that will sharpen your astrological skills. Similarly you can see the difference of jupiter in same sign in lagna, say cancer, due to the nakshatra it is placed in, punarvasu, pushya or asleesha.> > warmest regards > Sheevani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Wendy ji, Namaste. //Jupiter is weak in shadbala, in mrityu avastha and dukhita, hence unable to deliver full benefic results. So native feels a lack of satisfaction as results are not up to his expectations./// It's said that the full effects of a dasa do not (generally) fructify during its own bhukti...i.e. results not up to expectations./// Thank you very much for your correction, it is much appreciated. I apologise for giving wrong impression. In haste, the MD and AD results got entwined. warmest regards Sheevani jyotish-vidya , " Mrs.Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Sheevani,Sivaprakasam, and All, > > I just came online quickly to check times of Mass for tomorrow (at my local church) and saw this conversation which I'd like to respond to quickly, if I may... > > Firstly, I feel that this chart has been put forward as a (possible) study topic and not a request for a personal reading. So, if members are inclined, it might be useful for study. > > Sivaprakasam Wrote: > ///Jupiter is weak in shadbala, in mrityu avastha and dukhita, hence unable to deliver full benefic results. So native feels a lack of satisfaction as results are not up to his expectations./// > > It's said that the full effects of a dasa do not (generally) fructify during its own bhukti...i.e. results not up to expectations. > > Best Wishes > Mrs.Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > =================== > > > > > Sheevani > Thursday, April 01, 2010 9:07 PM > jyotish-vidya > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > > > Dear Sivaprakasam ji, > > Namaste. > > Please forgive me but the giving of reading is not encouraged in this forum. > > As you asked for guidance I can only highlight factors to consider. > > Jupiter-Jupiter period started from Aug 2008- Oct 2010 > > Jupiter owns 6H,9H and is placed in 3H, so these houses will be benefitted most during this period, with 9H more so as jupiter is aspecting it. > > Condition of Jupiter.. > > Placed in 3h, enemy rasi, nak krittika(friendly sun nakshatra),aspecting 7H,9H and 11H. Aspected by exalted venus and rahu from 9H and conjuct ketu (mixed malefic and benefic effects) > > Jupiter is weak in shadbala, in mrityu avastha and dukhita, hence unable to deliver full benefic results. So native feels a lack of satisfaction as results are not up to his expectations. > > Looking at transits over this period, jupiter was in shani rashi's mainly, makara 7H(jup deb) and kumbh(8H) and shani in chart is deb in 10H. Shani meanwhile was transiting 2 and 3H during this period.Shani transit in 3h, will increse desire to improve material gains. Overall I feel this person wouldnt have made much change in his situations. Financal gains were ofset with increased expenses etc but this person would gain in spiritual/religious activities. > > The period after May 2010 will see some improvement in material and spiritual gains when jupiter transits to pisces. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > jyotish-vidya , Sivaprakasam KPM <sivaprakasamkpm@> wrote: > > > > Namaste friends, > > > > After some uneasiness in the Group, the role of dasha lords is being discussed. A learned member is mentioning about the role of Jupiter for different rising lagnas that seems to be quite interesting. If anybody is interested cast the chart for the data appended below, the dasha operating is Jup/Jup/Mo. The rising sign is Cancer with 18:38:41 and Moon being in Taurus 00:32:01. Jupiter is ruler of 6th and 9th houses placed in the 3rd house with a malefic. He is married and having two children, a boy and a girl. A good friend of mine brought the chart to me first week of this month; I was not able to give my opinion on this sub-period of Jupiter unequivocally. > > > > I would like to add that this message should not be taken as testing the skill of the members. The purpose of posting this message is simply to understand the role of Jupiter in this chart in general and his role as a subperiod lord in particular. > > > > Male > > 16th May 1969 > > > > 11:20 hours > > Arani, 12N40 79E17 > > Tamilnadu, > > India > > > > With regards, > > Sivaprakasam > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4992 (20100401) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Renu-ji, Namaste, Many thanks for your kind words. with love and regards Sheevani jyotish-vidya , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > Brief and logical:) I like your presentation. > > blessings, > > Renu > jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sivaprakasam ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > Please forgive me but the giving of reading is not encouraged in this forum. > > > > As you asked for guidance I can only highlight factors to consider. > > > > Jupiter-Jupiter period started from Aug 2008- Oct 2010 > > > > Jupiter owns 6H,9H and is placed in 3H, so these houses will be benefitted most during this period, with 9H more so as jupiter is aspecting it. > > > > Condition of Jupiter.. > > > > Placed in 3h, enemy rasi, nak krittika(friendly sun nakshatra),aspecting 7H,9H and 11H. Aspected by exalted venus and rahu from 9H and conjuct ketu (mixed malefic and benefic effects) > > > > Jupiter is weak in shadbala, in mrityu avastha and dukhita, hence unable to deliver full benefic results. So native feels a lack of satisfaction as results are not up to his expectations. > > > > Looking at transits over this period, jupiter was in shani rashi's mainly, makara 7H(jup deb) and kumbh(8H) and shani in chart is deb in 10H. Shani meanwhile was transiting 2 and 3H during this period.Shani transit in 3h, will increse desire to improve material gains. Overall I feel this person wouldnt have made much change in his situations. Financal gains were ofset with increased expenses etc but this person would gain in spiritual/religious activities. > > > > The period after May 2010 will see some improvement in material and spiritual gains when jupiter transits to pisces. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , Sivaprakasam KPM <sivaprakasamkpm@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste friends, > > > > > > After some uneasiness in the Group, the role of dasha lords is being discussed. A learned member is mentioning about the role of Jupiter for different rising lagnas that seems to be quite interesting. If anybody is interested cast the chart for the data appended below, the dasha operating is Jup/Jup/Mo. The rising sign is Cancer with 18:38:41 and Moon being in Taurus 00:32:01. Jupiter is ruler of 6th and 9th houses placed in the 3rd house with a malefic. He is married and having two children, a boy and a girl. A good friend of mine brought the chart to me first week of this month; I was not able to give my opinion on this sub-period of Jupiter unequivocally. > > > > > > I would like to add that this message should not be taken as testing the skill of the members. The purpose of posting this message is simply to understand the role of Jupiter in this chart in general and his role as a subperiod lord in particular. > > > > > > Male > > > 16th May 1969 > > > > > > 11:20 hours > > > Arani, 12N40 79E17 > > > Tamilnadu, > > > India > > > > > > With regards, > > > Sivaprakasam > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > jyotish-vidya > > > Thu, 1 April, 2010 2:13:23 PM > > > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > Indeed the human mind is a very complex yet facinating subject. > > > > > > It gives insight to the qualities of mercury and jupiter. A good mercury gives excellent communication skills, ability to gather and comprehend knowledge/informati on but to organise this information you need the administrative skills of a good strong jupiter. Only then you are able to apply the right information correctly and consistently. > > > > > > One has to be observant and try to understand how jupiter behaves in saggitarius lagna, pisces lagna and cancer lagna, there will be similarities yet there are differences. It is understanding these differences, that will sharpen your astrological skills. Similarly you can see the difference of jupiter in same sign in lagna, say cancer, due to the nakshatra it is placed in, punarvasu, pushya or asleesha. > > > > > > With experience, it all seem so simple, but to a novice, all this information is still in the hands of mercury,, and not been processed and sorted by jupiter, hence the difficulty in application. > > > > > > I too need the blessings of my jupiter for there is still too much mercury in me. > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Dear Sivaprakasam, Sorry to note the untimely demise of your friend's brother. May his soul rest in peace. Just to add a note on Jupiter - please note that Jupiter is the lord of 64th navamsha and is debilitated in Navamsha. Jupiter is also disposited by the lord of 22nd drekkana, Mercury. Jupiter is in the nakshatra of a Maraka, Sun the lord of 2H in Rasi. Also occupies the navamsha of the other Maraka Saturn. I guess all this makes Jupiter highly potent to kill. The lagna lord Moon joins this debilitated Jupiter in Navamsha. The LL Moon is already very weak being in Rasi Sandhi and being terribly combust. Regards, Krishna On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Sivaprakasam <sivaprakasamkpmwrote: > > > Friends, > > Just now, I have received the news from my friend over telephone, the > Native (younger brother of my friend) passed away on 30th March 2010 around > 1400 hours in Chennai. The cremation took place yesterday i.e. on 31st March > 2010. He was suffering from Cancer. He was suffering from intense pain. > Cancer was deducted during Rahu/Mars/Moon. His kidney and liver were damaged > extensively during the period of Jup/Jup. The 6th lord is retrograde and is > in the 3rd house with a malefic. The Jupiter receives the aspect of an > exalted planet, which is a natural benefic, from the 9th house (divine help) > from lagna. > > There is no benefic planet in angles. There is no benefic influence on > kendras. Saturn is in 10th house, debilitated 8th lord in a powerful kendra. > Saturn is the karaka for Ayu and is weak. No benefic influence on Saturn. > Jupiter the 9th lord ( a natural benefic and the lord of powerful trine) is > placed in greater enemy's sign with a malefic. Jupiter is the weakest planet > shadbala wise. Jupiter is placed in the Navamsa of Capricorn which is the > sign falls in 7th house from Lagna proper. From the dasha lord Jupiter, > Saturn is the 6th lord placed in the 8th house. Saturn is an unqualified > killer. Saturn is the 7th and 8th lord from Lagna and placed in 12th from > Moon. > > Lagna lord is in a fixed sign and 8th lord is in a movable sign that > denotes medium life. Saturn is in a movable sign and Moon is in fixed sign > that denotes medium life. > > I was not able to decide which sub-period was fatal for the native whether > Jup/Jup or Jup/Sat. It is the period of 6th lord (Jup) from Lagna. It is the > period of 8th lord (Jup) from Moon. Jupiter/Saturn is the major period of > 6th and sub period of 8th lord. Dhanur is the moolatrikona rasi of Jupiter. > Kumbha is the moolatrikona rasi of Saturn. It is a general rule, during a > sub-period, the moolatrikona rasi of a planet takes precedence in giving > results than that of the other rasi if the planet owns two houses in a > chart. > > May the Departed Soul Rest in Peace. > > With regards, > Sivaprakasam > ================== > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, > Sivaprakasam KPM <sivaprakasamkpm wrote: > > > > Namaste friends, > > > > After some uneasiness in the Group, the role of dasha lords is being > discussed. A learned member is mentioning about the role of Jupiter for > different rising lagnas that seems to be quite interesting. If anybody is > interested cast the chart for the data appended below, the dasha operating > is Jup/Jup/Mo. The rising sign is Cancer with 18:38:41 and Moon being in > Taurus 00:32:01. Jupiter is ruler of 6th and 9th houses placed in the 3rd > house with a malefic. He is married and having two children, a boy and a > girl. A good friend of mine brought the chart to me first week of this > month; I was not able to give my opinion on this sub-period of Jupiter > unequivocally. > > > > I would like to add that this message should not be taken as testing the > skill of the members. The purpose of posting this message is simply to > understand the role of Jupiter in this chart in general and his role as a > subperiod lord in particular. > > > > Male > > 16th May 1969 > > 11:20 hours > > Arani, 12N40 79E17 > > Tamilnadu, > > India > > > > With regards, > > Sivaprakasam > > > > ________________________________ > > Sheevani <sheevani147 > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > > Thu, 1 April, 2010 2:13:23 PM > > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > One has to be observant and try to understand how jupiter > behaves in saggitarius lagna, pisces lagna and cancer lagna, there will be > similarities yet there are differences. It is understanding these > differences, that will sharpen your astrological skills. Similarly you can > see the difference of jupiter in same sign in lagna, say cancer, due to the > nakshatra it is placed in, punarvasu, pushya or asleesha.> > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Dear Sivaprakasam, My last post: ///just came online quickly to check times of Mass for tomorrow/// Just as well I did as there is no Mass on Good Friday. Instead it's a day of prayer and fasting. My memory, in regards to normal everyday things, really is failing...should have remembered that! I'd have looked a proper idiot if I was the only one turning up for Mass. You Wrote: ///Just now, I have received the news from my friend over telephone, the Native (younger brother of my friend) passed away on 30th March 2010 around 1400 hours in Chennai. The cremation took place yesterday i.e. on 31st March 2010. He was suffering from Cancer. He was suffering from intense pain. Cancer was deducted during Rahu/Mars/Moon. His kidney and liver were damaged extensively during the period of Jup/Jup. The 6th lord is retrograde and is in the 3rd house with a malefic. The Jupiter receives the aspect of an exalted planet, which is a natural benefic, from the 9th house (divine help) from lagna./// So very young! If I've got my math's right he was yet to turn 40...very sad for his loved ones to face such a loss! ///I was not able to decide which sub-period was fatal for the native whether Jup/Jup or Jup/Sat. It is the period of 6th lord (Jup) from Lagna. It is the period of 8th lord (Jup) from Moon. Jupiter/Saturn is the major period of 6th and sub period of 8th lord. Dhanur is the moolatrikona rasi of Jupiter. Kumbha is the moolatrikona rasi of Saturn. It is a general rule, during a sub-period, the moolatrikona rasi of a planet takes precedence in giving results than that of the other rasi if the planet owns two houses in a chart./// The transit chart really does show the native's passing quite clearly. The native was running dasa of JU-JU-MO-SA and, at the time (and place) of death, lagnesh Moon conjunct 8th lord Saturn, was transiting Jupiter in 3rd house (cause of one's own death) whilst Jupiter was transiting 8th...without question, the transit chart is a most important tool for timing events! Condolences to your friend and his family, and a blessed repose for the departed. Best Wishes Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com =================== Sivaprakasam Friday, April 02, 2010 1:55 AM jyotish-vidya Re: Interpreting the antardasas Friends, Just now, I have received the news from my friend over telephone, the Native (younger brother of my friend) passed away on 30th March 2010 around 1400 hours in Chennai. The cremation took place yesterday i.e. on 31st March 2010. He was suffering from Cancer. He was suffering from intense pain. Cancer was deducted during Rahu/Mars/Moon. His kidney and liver were damaged extensively during the period of Jup/Jup. The 6th lord is retrograde and is in the 3rd house with a malefic. The Jupiter receives the aspect of an exalted planet, which is a natural benefic, from the 9th house (divine help) from lagna. There is no benefic planet in angles. There is no benefic influence on kendras. Saturn is in 10th house, debilitated 8th lord in a powerful kendra. Saturn is the karaka for Ayu and is weak. No benefic influence on Saturn. Jupiter the 9th lord ( a natural benefic and the lord of powerful trine) is placed in greater enemy's sign with a malefic. Jupiter is the weakest planet shadbala wise. Jupiter is placed in the Navamsa of Capricorn which is the sign falls in 7th house from Lagna proper. From the dasha lord Jupiter, Saturn is the 6th lord placed in the 8th house. Saturn is an unqualified killer. Saturn is the 7th and 8th lord from Lagna and placed in 12th from Moon. Lagna lord is in a fixed sign and 8th lord is in a movable sign that denotes medium life. Saturn is in a movable sign and Moon is in fixed sign that denotes medium life. I was not able to decide which sub-period was fatal for the native whether Jup/Jup or Jup/Sat. It is the period of 6th lord (Jup) from Lagna. It is the period of 8th lord (Jup) from Moon. Jupiter/Saturn is the major period of 6th and sub period of 8th lord. Dhanur is the moolatrikona rasi of Jupiter. Kumbha is the moolatrikona rasi of Saturn. It is a general rule, during a sub-period, the moolatrikona rasi of a planet takes precedence in giving results than that of the other rasi if the planet owns two houses in a chart. May the Departed Soul Rest in Peace. With regards, Sivaprakasam ================== jyotish-vidya , Sivaprakasam KPM <sivaprakasamkpm wrote: > > Namaste friends, > > After some uneasiness in the Group, the role of dasha lords is being discussed. A learned member is mentioning about the role of Jupiter for different rising lagnas that seems to be quite interesting. If anybody is interested cast the chart for the data appended below, the dasha operating is Jup/Jup/Mo. The rising sign is Cancer with 18:38:41 and Moon being in Taurus 00:32:01. Jupiter is ruler of 6th and 9th houses placed in the 3rd house with a malefic. He is married and having two children, a boy and a girl. A good friend of mine brought the chart to me first week of this month; I was not able to give my opinion on this sub-period of Jupiter unequivocally. > > I would like to add that this message should not be taken as testing the skill of the members. The purpose of posting this message is simply to understand the role of Jupiter in this chart in general and his role as a subperiod lord in particular. > > Male > 16th May 1969 > 11:20 hours > Arani, 12N40 79E17 > Tamilnadu, > India > > With regards, > Sivaprakasam > > ________________________________ > Sheevani <sheevani147 > jyotish-vidya > Thu, 1 April, 2010 2:13:23 PM > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > Dear Gopi Ji, > One has to be observant and try to understand how jupiter behaves in saggitarius lagna, pisces lagna and cancer lagna, there will be similarities yet there are differences. It is understanding these differences, that will sharpen your astrological skills. Similarly you can see the difference of jupiter in same sign in lagna, say cancer, due to the nakshatra it is placed in, punarvasu, pushya or asleesha.> > warmest regards > Sheevani __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4993 (20100401) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Dear Sheevani ji, Namasthe. //Indeed the human mind is a very complex yet facinating subject.// you are right.That's why sages wanted us to study the chart from moon aswell.Specially the vimsottari dasa is designed basing upon moon only and in this kaliyug VD works much better than any other dasas it was also said.Humans live more in mind than in body in kaliyug.The sages have foreseen this and designed VD accordingly. Few days ago when i posted something on these lines,i was thinking about the mind(probably).When Mrs wendy asked me something about the context of the post i could not recolect and express my thoughts.That's why mind is both complex and fascinating and some times dangerous aswell.Excessive imagination specially when moon is highly aflicted is what i mean!!.. I have also found in many charts when moon is aspd by both jup and sat the natives are well balanced.I have also seen in a few charts where normal VD does not work.In such cases individuals concerned are not living in their minds but in their bodies/SOULS.........probably!!! Warmest regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " <sheevani147 wrote: > > Dear Gopi Ji, > > Namaste. > > Indeed the human mind is a very complex yet facinating subject. > > It gives insight to the qualities of mercury and jupiter. A good mercury gives excellent communication skills, ability to gather and comprehend knowledge/information but to organise this information you need the administrative skills of a good strong jupiter. Only then you are able to apply the right information correctly and consistently. > > One has to be observant and try to understand how jupiter behaves in saggitarius lagna, pisces lagna and cancer lagna, there will be similarities yet there are differences. It is understanding these differences, that will sharpen your astrological skills. Similarly you can see the difference of jupiter in same sign in lagna, say cancer, due to the nakshatra it is placed in, punarvasu, pushya or asleesha. > > With experience, it all seem so simple, but to a novice, all this information is still in the hands of mercury,, and not been processed and sorted by jupiter, hence the difficulty in application. > > I too need the blessings of my jupiter for there is still too much mercury in me. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > jyotish-vidya , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > // " to err is human " and i did apologise for any ommisions.// > > to err is human mind!!Apology is also needed according to me since you > > are apologising to another human mind!!.. > > // I too struggled initially to get a method that was logical and > > worked.// > > Method should be both logical and astrological i suppose.. > > both you and Veejai ji are right since both of you are telling the same > > thing in your own way that Neelesh ji also have to struggle and find his > > own way!!!!....That's why jyotish(science of light) is great. > > Regards, > > gopi. > > > > jyotish-vidya , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vejai-Ji, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > I have not disagreeed with you, If you read carefully I have covered > > all things you mention except for taking the bhavas from moon.. > > > > > > After all " to err is human " and i did apologise for any ommisions. > > > > > > I suggest to Nilesh to look at the generic phal given by parashara and > > compare the chart taking into account factors that can influence or > > change outcome. > > > > > > I also said this works for me, and every person has his own ways and i > > respect that. > > > > > > I am not teaching here, just sharing my own experience as I too > > struggled initially to get a method that was logical and worked. > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , Vejai S astrovejai@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear sheevani , Nilesh ji nad al group member ,, > > > >  > > > > according to me ,, there in no thumb rule in antar dasha > > prediction as such ,, > > > > we have to take various other thing into consideration to know that > > shani antarshasa in sun dasha is good or bad ,, it also too depend upon > > the following > > > >  > > > > 1) which house the plant belong from the moon > > > > 2) which house the panet belong in the ruling dasha planet > > > > 3) in whose nakshastra the shani or surya is present,, > > > > 4) the degree of planet > > > > 5) whats it position in niryan bhav chalit nad bhav chalit ,, > > > >  > > > > if ther is any thumb rule than ,, any body could say ,, ur having > > shani under surya ,, so be prepare for hardship ,, many thing had to be > > taken under consideration before making prediction accoringf to me ,, > > > >  > > > > rgds > > > > Vejai > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 31/3/10, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sheevani sheevani147@ > > > > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > > > jyotish-vidya > > > > Wednesday, 31 March, 2010, 10:41 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nilesh ji, > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Parashara has given outcomes of dashas and antradashas in BPHS > > chapter 52 onwards. > > > > > > > > Here the placement of antradasha lord with respect to Mahadasha lord > > is taken into consideration as well as the bhava placement of the > > mahadasha/antradash a in the natal chart. The relationship of the > > mahadasha lord and the antradasha lord is also considered. as naturally > > if it is friendly, some positive outcomes can be expected, and vice > > versa. > > > > > > > > Shani's antradasha in sun mahadasha is generally better than sun > > antradasha in shani's mahadasha.. please reflect on this!!! > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya, " niljoshi27 " <niljoshi27@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > How are antardasa's in a dasa period analyzed? > > > > > > > > > > The reason for this question is the fact that certain antardasa's > > are always considered bad , for e.g Saturn's antardasa in Sun Dasa or > > > > > Rahu in Moon etc. > > > > > > > > > > Can such periods be good based on the placement of the planets. > > > > > Do we look at the relationship of the planets concerned, > > > > > the relative placement wrt each other, (9th /5th from each > > other,4th/10th from each other etc) > > > > > innate strength of the planets? > > > > > > > > > > What else do we look at ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Dear Sivaprakasam ji, Namaste. I am deeply sadden by the event. Please accept my condolences for the loss of your friends younger brother. As I didnt know the circumstances, I didnt particularly look for this event given his age. warmest regards Sheevani jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: > > Dear Sivaprakasam, > > Sorry to note the untimely demise of your friend's brother. May his soul > rest in peace. > > Just to add a note on Jupiter - please note that Jupiter is the lord of > 64th navamsha and is debilitated in Navamsha. Jupiter is also disposited by > the lord of 22nd drekkana, Mercury. Jupiter is in the nakshatra of a Maraka, > Sun the lord of 2H in Rasi. Also occupies the navamsha of the other Maraka > Saturn. I guess all this makes Jupiter highly potent to kill. > > The lagna lord Moon joins this debilitated Jupiter in Navamsha. The LL Moon > is already very weak being in Rasi Sandhi and being terribly combust. > > > Regards, > Krishna > > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Sivaprakasam <sivaprakasamkpmwrote: > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > Just now, I have received the news from my friend over telephone, the > > Native (younger brother of my friend) passed away on 30th March 2010 around > > 1400 hours in Chennai. The cremation took place yesterday i.e. on 31st March > > 2010. He was suffering from Cancer. He was suffering from intense pain. > > Cancer was deducted during Rahu/Mars/Moon. His kidney and liver were damaged > > extensively during the period of Jup/Jup. The 6th lord is retrograde and is > > in the 3rd house with a malefic. The Jupiter receives the aspect of an > > exalted planet, which is a natural benefic, from the 9th house (divine help) > > from lagna. > > > > There is no benefic planet in angles. There is no benefic influence on > > kendras. Saturn is in 10th house, debilitated 8th lord in a powerful kendra. > > Saturn is the karaka for Ayu and is weak. No benefic influence on Saturn. > > Jupiter the 9th lord ( a natural benefic and the lord of powerful trine) is > > placed in greater enemy's sign with a malefic. Jupiter is the weakest planet > > shadbala wise. Jupiter is placed in the Navamsa of Capricorn which is the > > sign falls in 7th house from Lagna proper. From the dasha lord Jupiter, > > Saturn is the 6th lord placed in the 8th house. Saturn is an unqualified > > killer. Saturn is the 7th and 8th lord from Lagna and placed in 12th from > > Moon. > > > > Lagna lord is in a fixed sign and 8th lord is in a movable sign that > > denotes medium life. Saturn is in a movable sign and Moon is in fixed sign > > that denotes medium life. > > > > I was not able to decide which sub-period was fatal for the native whether > > Jup/Jup or Jup/Sat. It is the period of 6th lord (Jup) from Lagna. It is the > > period of 8th lord (Jup) from Moon. Jupiter/Saturn is the major period of > > 6th and sub period of 8th lord. Dhanur is the moolatrikona rasi of Jupiter. > > Kumbha is the moolatrikona rasi of Saturn. It is a general rule, during a > > sub-period, the moolatrikona rasi of a planet takes precedence in giving > > results than that of the other rasi if the planet owns two houses in a > > chart. > > > > May the Departed Soul Rest in Peace. > > > > With regards, > > Sivaprakasam > > ================== > > > > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, > > Sivaprakasam KPM <sivaprakasamkpm@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste friends, > > > > > > After some uneasiness in the Group, the role of dasha lords is being > > discussed. A learned member is mentioning about the role of Jupiter for > > different rising lagnas that seems to be quite interesting. If anybody is > > interested cast the chart for the data appended below, the dasha operating > > is Jup/Jup/Mo. The rising sign is Cancer with 18:38:41 and Moon being in > > Taurus 00:32:01. Jupiter is ruler of 6th and 9th houses placed in the 3rd > > house with a malefic. He is married and having two children, a boy and a > > girl. A good friend of mine brought the chart to me first week of this > > month; I was not able to give my opinion on this sub-period of Jupiter > > unequivocally. > > > > > > I would like to add that this message should not be taken as testing the > > skill of the members. The purpose of posting this message is simply to > > understand the role of Jupiter in this chart in general and his role as a > > subperiod lord in particular. > > > > > > Male > > > 16th May 1969 > > > 11:20 hours > > > Arani, 12N40 79E17 > > > Tamilnadu, > > > India > > > > > > With regards, > > > Sivaprakasam > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > > > Thu, 1 April, 2010 2:13:23 PM > > > Re: Interpreting the antardasas > > > > > > Dear Gopi Ji, > One has to be observant and try to understand how jupiter > > behaves in saggitarius lagna, pisces lagna and cancer lagna, there will be > > similarities yet there are differences. It is understanding these > > differences, that will sharpen your astrological skills. Similarly you can > > see the difference of jupiter in same sign in lagna, say cancer, due to the > > nakshatra it is placed in, punarvasu, pushya or asleesha.> > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Namaste Krishna Ji, What you wrote in your message are very relevent and that are to be kept in mind when examining Jupiter in this chart. In fact, I took them into consideration when I analysed the chart in the first week of March this year. Still, I feel, it eludes when it comes to the question of longevity. With regards, Sivaprakasam jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: > > Dear Sivaprakasam, > > Sorry to note the untimely demise of your friend's brother. May his soul rest in peace. > > Just to add a note on Jupiter - please note that Jupiter is the lord of 64th navamsha and is debilitated in Navamsha. Jupiter is also disposited by the lord of 22nd drekkana, Mercury. Jupiter is in the nakshatra of a Maraka, Sun the lord of 2H in Rasi. Also occupies the navamsha of the other Maraka Saturn. I guess all this makes Jupiter highly potent to kill. > > The lagna lord Moon joins this debilitated Jupiter in Navamsha. The LL Moon is already very weak being in Rasi Sandhi and being terribly combust. > > > Regards, > Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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