Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Dear All, This is the horoscope of one of my relatives. The family is very concerned that the boy is still unmarried. They are from a small town. The arranged marriage proposals are not going through at all since past few years. I request members to shed light on this horoscope. Here are the details: DOB: 1-Jan-1980 TOB: 7:25 am POB: Arsikere, India (76E15, 13N18) I notice the following in the chart that are causing problems: - Karaka Jupiter is retrograde and afflicted by malefics Mars and Rahu - Karaka of spouse Venus is in Rahu-Ketu axis in Navamsha - Saturn aspects 7H too, could cause delays - 8L Moon occupies 7H Observations welcome along with probable period for marriage. Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Dear Krishna and Group,  A few other observations,  Mercury the lord of 7th is in moola whose lord ketu has a nakshatra parivartan with Rahu. The house of family (2nd) is in papakartari yoga. Venus the karaka for marriage is in moon's star and moon is week placed at 0 degrees in the sign of mercury. Mercury and moon opposition is not good and to add to it moon is aspected by Sun and Saturn together. Emotionally that can be a disturbing factor. From Moon the 7th is occupied by Sun and mercury. Sun is not good in 7th  The lord of 7th is with lord of 9th.Also lord of 5th is in 9th. I feel there will be intercaste or interreligion marriage  Best Regards  Nilesh   .. --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 When will he get married? jyotish-vidya Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:52 PM  Dear All, This is the horoscope of one of my relatives. The family is very concerned that the boy is still unmarried. They are from a small town. The arranged marriage proposals are not going through at all since past few years. I request members to shed light on this horoscope. Here are the details: DOB: 1-Jan-1980 TOB: 7:25 am POB: Arsikere, India (76E15, 13N18) I notice the following in the chart that are causing problems: - Karaka Jupiter is retrograde and afflicted by malefics Mars and Rahu - Karaka of spouse Venus is in Rahu-Ketu axis in Navamsha - Saturn aspects 7H too, could cause delays - 8L Moon occupies 7H Observations welcome along with probable period for marriage. Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Dear Nilesh, Thanks for some very good observations. Looks like there are many hindrances to the marriage. The parents of the boy told me one more thing that they looking for a girl who does not have brothers. I believe their astrologer has told them so. I am wondering why as the Moon is in Mrigashira. Regards, Krishna On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:11 PM, nilesh joshi <niljoshi27wrote: > > > Dear Krishna and Group, > > A few other observations, > > Mercury the lord of 7th is in moola whose lord ketu has a nakshatra > parivartan with Rahu. > The house of family (2nd) is in papakartari yoga. > Venus the karaka for marriage is in moon's star and moon is week placed at > 0 degrees in the sign of mercury. Mercury and moon opposition is not good > and to add to it moon is aspected by Sun and Saturn together. Emotionally > that can be a disturbing factor. > From Moon the 7th is occupied by Sun and mercury. Sun is not good in 7th > > > The lord of 7th is with lord of 9th.Also lord of 5th is in 9th. I feel > there will be intercaste or interreligion marriage > > Best Regards > > Nilesh > > > . --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com> > > > When will he get married? > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:52 PM > > > > > Dear All, > > This is the horoscope of one of my relatives. The family is very concerned > that the boy is still unmarried. They are from a small town. The arranged > marriage proposals are not going through at all since past few years. I > request members to shed light on this horoscope. Here are the details: > > DOB: 1-Jan-1980 > TOB: 7:25 am > POB: Arsikere, India (76E15, 13N18) > > I notice the following in the chart that are causing problems: > > - Karaka Jupiter is retrograde and afflicted by malefics Mars and Rahu > - Karaka of spouse Venus is in Rahu-Ketu axis in Navamsha > - Saturn aspects 7H too, could cause delays > - 8L Moon occupies 7H > > Observations welcome along with probable period for marriage. > > Regards, > Krishna > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Dear Krishna, ///The parents of the boy told me one more thing that they looking for a girl who does not have brothers. I believe their astrologer has told them so. I am wondering why as the Moon is in Mrigashira./// Wife's brother/s are seen from 9th house. Note the native's lagna lord (Jupiter in retrograde motion) placed in this house. There is an exchange (parivartana yoga) between 9th lord Sun and lagnesh Jupiter. Important to note also is that MA-JU-SU all occupy nakshatra of Venus. Lagna itself is the weaker here being in Rx motion. I can see why the astrologer has suggested this. But surely this is already written in the native's destiny...attempting to manipulate this could itself be the hindrance to marriage, don't you agree? Best Wishes Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com =================== BPHS Ch.1 Only good will follow the teaching of this science to the students who are peacefully disposed, who honor the preceptors (and elders), who speak only truth and who are God-fearing. Woeful for ever doubtlessly will it be to impart knowledge of this science to an unwilling student, to a heterodox, and to a crafty person. =================== ----------------- " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58 Monday, April 12, 2010 2:01 PM <jyotish-vidya > Re: When will he get married? Dear Nilesh, Thanks for some very good observations. Looks like there are many hindrances to the marriage. The parents of the boy told me one more thing that they looking for a girl who does not have brothers. I believe their astrologer has told them so. I am wondering why as the Moon is in Mrigashira. Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Dear Mrs. Wendy, Normally, here along astrologers look at the nakshatra of Moon and tell these things such as the native should marry someone who does not have mother/father/brother etc. And, these things are applicable to Moon in nakshatras like Moola, Jyeshta and Ashlesha. I have not paid attention to these things and I don't clearly understand which relation is bad for what nakshatra placement for Moon. But, I was surprised to see the astrologer suggesting something like that when Moon was in Mrigashira. I agree that the 9th house is badly afflicted and that house also represents wife's brother. I did not look at that angle earlier. Thanks for pointing out. Does this mean that the girl could have elder brother and not younger ones. However, the exchange of 1st and 9th lords is auspicious. It should bring in all the best to the native. That combination has suffered to some extent due to the affliction of Jupiter and Jupiter being retrograde. The question is whether this combination is still potent enough to bring about good results like marriage during Jup-Sun period? As you have rightly pointed out they both are in the nakshatra of Venus. It is a good thing for marriage. But, Venus is in papakartari. There is seems to hurdles for marriage seen from many angles. Are the problems are strong enough to say that there is denial? I am unable to judge. Regards, Krishna On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Mrs.Wendy <jyotishvidyawrote: > > > Dear Krishna, > > ///The parents of the boy told me one more thing that they looking for a > girl > who does not have brothers. I believe their astrologer has told them so. I > am wondering why as the Moon is in Mrigashira./// > > Wife's brother/s are seen from 9th house. Note the native's lagna lord > (Jupiter in retrograde motion) placed in this house. There is an exchange > (parivartana yoga) between 9th lord Sun and lagnesh Jupiter. Important to > note also is that MA-JU-SU all occupy nakshatra of Venus. Lagna itself is > the weaker here being in Rx motion. > > I can see why the astrologer has suggested this. But surely this is already > > written in the native's destiny...attempting to manipulate this could > itself > be the hindrance to marriage, don't you agree? > > Best Wishes > Mrs.Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > =================== > BPHS Ch.1 > Only good will follow the teaching of this > science to the students who are peacefully > disposed, who honor the preceptors > (and elders), who speak only truth and who > are God-fearing. Woeful for ever doubtlessly > will it be to impart knowledge of this science > to an unwilling student, to a heterodox, and > to a crafty person. > =================== > > ----------------- > > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <kmurthys58<kmurthys58%40gmail.com> > > > Monday, April 12, 2010 2:01 PM > > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > Re: When will he get married? > > > Dear Nilesh, > > Thanks for some very good observations. Looks like there are many > hindrances > to the marriage. > > The parents of the boy told me one more thing that they looking for a girl > who does not have brothers. I believe their astrologer has told them so. I > am wondering why as the Moon is in Mrigashira. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Dear Krishna Ji, I hope this fellow might had a very close negotiation in the last six months which ended futile. I hope from the last quarter of this year and in 2011 particularly he will have a strong chance which he should also try to materialise. Otherwise he will have to wait till he completes 33,ie. marriage will take place at the age of 34 or up to the first quarter of 35. You are already aware of the hinderance factors in his chart causing delay or break up in the negotiations.You are right. It is not a 'No Marriage Chart' so I hope the things to take place as above. Wish him the Best Om jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: > > Dear All, > > This is the horoscope of one of my relatives. The family is very concerned > that the boy is still unmarried. They are from a small town. The arranged > marriage proposals are not going through at all since past few years. I > request members to shed light on this horoscope. Here are the details: > > DOB: 1-Jan-1980 > TOB: 7:25 am > POB: Arsikere, India (76E15, 13N18) > > I notice the following in the chart that are causing problems: > > - Karaka Jupiter is retrograde and afflicted by malefics Mars and Rahu > - Karaka of spouse Venus is in Rahu-Ketu axis in Navamsha > - Saturn aspects 7H too, could cause delays > - 8L Moon occupies 7H > > Observations welcome along with probable period for marriage. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Dear Wendy Ji, Just Superb Explanation ! Wow ! Regards Om jyotish-vidya , " Mrs.Wendy " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Krishna, > > ///The parents of the boy told me one more thing that they looking for a > girl > who does not have brothers. I believe their astrologer has told them so. I > am wondering why as the Moon is in Mrigashira./// > > Wife's brother/s are seen from 9th house. Note the native's lagna lord > (Jupiter in retrograde motion) placed in this house. There is an exchange > (parivartana yoga) between 9th lord Sun and lagnesh Jupiter. Important to > note also is that MA-JU-SU all occupy nakshatra of Venus. Lagna itself is > the weaker here being in Rx motion. > > I can see why the astrologer has suggested this. But surely this is already > written in the native's destiny...attempting to manipulate this could itself > be the hindrance to marriage, don't you agree? > > Best Wishes > Mrs.Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > =================== > BPHS Ch.1 > Only good will follow the teaching of this > science to the students who are peacefully > disposed, who honor the preceptors > (and elders), who speak only truth and who > are God-fearing. Woeful for ever doubtlessly > will it be to impart knowledge of this science > to an unwilling student, to a heterodox, and > to a crafty person. > =================== > > > ----------------- > " Krishnamurthy Seetharama " kmurthys58 > Monday, April 12, 2010 2:01 PM > jyotish-vidya > Re: When will he get married? > > Dear Nilesh, > > Thanks for some very good observations. Looks like there are many hindrances > to the marriage. > > The parents of the boy told me one more thing that they looking for a girl > who does not have brothers. I believe their astrologer has told them so. I > am wondering why as the Moon is in Mrigashira. > > Regards, > Krishna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Dear Om ji, Thanks for sharing your opinion. Regards, Krishna On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Om <astrops2122 wrote: > > > > Dear Krishna Ji, > > I hope this fellow might had a very close negotiation in the last six > months which ended futile. > > I hope from the last quarter of this year and in 2011 particularly he > will have a strong chance which he should also try to materialise. > > Otherwise he will have to wait till he completes 33,ie. marriage will > take place at the age of 34 or up to the first quarter of 35. > > You are already aware of the hinderance factors in his chart causing > delay or break up in the negotiations.You are right. > > It is not a 'No Marriage Chart' so I hope the things to take place as > above. > > Wish him the Best > > Om > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <kmurthys58 wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > This is the horoscope of one of my relatives. The family is very > concerned > > that the boy is still unmarried. They are from a small town. The > arranged > > marriage proposals are not going through at all since past few years. > I > > request members to shed light on this horoscope. Here are the details: > > > > DOB: 1-Jan-1980 > > TOB: 7:25 am > > POB: Arsikere, India (76E15, 13N18) > > > > I notice the following in the chart that are causing problems: > > > > - Karaka Jupiter is retrograde and afflicted by malefics Mars and Rahu > > - Karaka of spouse Venus is in Rahu-Ketu axis in Navamsha > > - Saturn aspects 7H too, could cause delays > > - 8L Moon occupies 7H > > > > Observations welcome along with probable period for marriage. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Dear Krishna ji, Karaka ven is in 2H of maraka aswell and ven is not FB as we know!!.. 7L in the amsa of venus.7H of amsa with mer!!?7H with 8L aspd by maraka sat.Dispositor of 7L is retro in RK axis.All 3 kama trikona houses seem to be aflicted.7L in the star of ketu which is restrictive and in 3rd H of kama trikona?!! The present dasa is jup-ven till sep 2011 which may not give marriage but the next jup-sun dasa could give subject to other factors including transits as you know.Sun being 9L of Rasi in 10th in his own amsa with jup1,4 is a posibility only.In this scenario i am afraid that it could be a NO MARRIAGE combinations.Sun/jup combination is a great spiritual combination specially for sag/pisc/Leo lagnas..... Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: > > Dear All, > > This is the horoscope of one of my relatives. The family is very concerned > that the boy is still unmarried. They are from a small town. The arranged > marriage proposals are not going through at all since past few years. I > request members to shed light on this horoscope. Here are the details: > > DOB: 1-Jan-1980 > TOB: 7:25 am > POB: Arsikere, India (76E15, 13N18) > > I notice the following in the chart that are causing problems: > > - Karaka Jupiter is retrograde and afflicted by malefics Mars and Rahu > - Karaka of spouse Venus is in Rahu-Ketu axis in Navamsha > - Saturn aspects 7H too, could cause delays > - 8L Moon occupies 7H > > Observations welcome along with probable period for marriage. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Dear Gopi ji, Thanks for sharing your observations. Do you think Venus being 7L in navamsha and dispositing 7L of Rasi will not give marriage in its bhukti? Is it because Venus is in maraka sthana and is also in papakaratari? There is no doubt that there are multiple negative factors that are causing the delay. The boy's grand mother gave me this data (she is my aunt). She is hoping that I will giver some good news about possible dates and also will help her to find a suitable girl for this boy. I don't know what to tell her actually. Regards, Krishna On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:02 PM, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote: > > > Dear Krishna ji, > Karaka ven is in 2H of maraka aswell and ven is not FB as we know!!.. > 7L in the amsa of venus.7H of amsa with mer!!?7H with 8L aspd by maraka > > sat.Dispositor of 7L is retro in RK axis.All 3 kama trikona houses seem > > to be aflicted.7L in the star of ketu which is restrictive and in 3rd H > > of kama trikona?!! > The present dasa is jup-ven till sep 2011 which may not give marriage > > but the next jup-sun dasa could give subject to other factors including > > transits as you know.Sun being 9L of Rasi in 10th in his own amsa with > > jup1,4 is a posibility only.In this scenario i am afraid that it could > > be a NO MARRIAGE combinations.Sun/jup combination is a great spiritual > > combination specially for sag/pisc/Leo lagnas..... > Love and regards, > gopi. > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <kmurthys58 wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > This is the horoscope of one of my relatives. The family is very > concerned > > that the boy is still unmarried. They are from a small town. The > arranged > > marriage proposals are not going through at all since past few years. > I > > request members to shed light on this horoscope. Here are the details: > > > > DOB: 1-Jan-1980 > > TOB: 7:25 am > > POB: Arsikere, India (76E15, 13N18) > > > > I notice the following in the chart that are causing problems: > > > > - Karaka Jupiter is retrograde and afflicted by malefics Mars and Rahu > > - Karaka of spouse Venus is in Rahu-Ketu axis in Navamsha > > - Saturn aspects 7H too, could cause delays > > - 8L Moon occupies 7H > > > > Observations welcome along with probable period for marriage. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Yes Krishna ji, that's the predicament of astrologers that too when we are related to the consultant.I am sorry i dont think ven will give marriage in jup-ven when jup/mer and jup/ketu did not give for the reasons already discussed. In this kind of situations i just dont hesitate to consult jaimini system as a second opinion.I will do the same and get back.... Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: > > Dear Gopi ji, > > Thanks for sharing your observations. Do you think Venus being 7L in > navamsha and dispositing 7L of Rasi will not give marriage in its bhukti? Is > it because Venus is in maraka sthana and is also in papakaratari? > > There is no doubt that there are multiple negative factors that are causing > the delay. The boy's grand mother gave me this data (she is my aunt). She is > hoping that I will giver some good news about possible dates and also will > help her to find a suitable girl for this boy. I don't know what to tell her > actually. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:02 PM, gopalakrishna gopi_b927 wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Krishna ji, > > Karaka ven is in 2H of maraka aswell and ven is not FB as we know!!.. > > 7L in the amsa of venus.7H of amsa with mer!!?7H with 8L aspd by maraka > > > > sat.Dispositor of 7L is retro in RK axis.All 3 kama trikona houses seem > > > > to be aflicted.7L in the star of ketu which is restrictive and in 3rd H > > > > of kama trikona?!! > > The present dasa is jup-ven till sep 2011 which may not give marriage > > > > but the next jup-sun dasa could give subject to other factors including > > > > transits as you know.Sun being 9L of Rasi in 10th in his own amsa with > > > > jup1,4 is a posibility only.In this scenario i am afraid that it could > > > > be a NO MARRIAGE combinations.Sun/jup combination is a great spiritual > > > > combination specially for sag/pisc/Leo lagnas..... > > Love and regards, > > gopi. > > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > kmurthys58@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > This is the horoscope of one of my relatives. The family is very > > concerned > > > that the boy is still unmarried. They are from a small town. The > > arranged > > > marriage proposals are not going through at all since past few years. > > I > > > request members to shed light on this horoscope. Here are the details: > > > > > > DOB: 1-Jan-1980 > > > TOB: 7:25 am > > > POB: Arsikere, India (76E15, 13N18) > > > > > > I notice the following in the chart that are causing problems: > > > > > > - Karaka Jupiter is retrograde and afflicted by malefics Mars and Rahu > > > - Karaka of spouse Venus is in Rahu-Ketu axis in Navamsha > > > - Saturn aspects 7H too, could cause delays > > > - 8L Moon occupies 7H > > > > > > Observations welcome along with probable period for marriage. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Dear Krishna ji, One good thing is DK(moon) in the star of AK(mars).Hence no marriage can be ruled out since both AK/DK are in 3/11 positions(kama trikonas). DK in mithuna(couple) aswell supports it.In navamsa both together in 12H of bed comfirts from lagna.Leo-Lib chara dasa is operating till the end of april;Leo-Sco tilljan 2011 and Leo-Sag till 3-9-2011 from which DK is in 7th and marriage can take place anytime b4 that depending upon other factors.!!! I would also like to clarify that between parashar and jaimini one is greater/lesser than the other but both are great in their own way and i am a lesser mortal who does not even have a right/opinion to judge them for sure.I only go for a second opinion like a lesser mortal!!... Love and regards, gopi. jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: > > Dear All, > > This is the horoscope of one of my relatives. The family is very concerned > that the boy is still unmarried. They are from a small town. The arranged > marriage proposals are not going through at all since past few years. I > request members to shed light on this horoscope. Here are the details: > > DOB: 1-Jan-1980 > TOB: 7:25 am > POB: Arsikere, India (76E15, 13N18) > > I notice the following in the chart that are causing problems: > > - Karaka Jupiter is retrograde and afflicted by malefics Mars and Rahu > - Karaka of spouse Venus is in Rahu-Ketu axis in Navamsha > - Saturn aspects 7H too, could cause delays > - 8L Moon occupies 7H > > Observations welcome along with probable period for marriage. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Dear Gpi ji, Thanks for your time and effort on this query. Regards, Krishna On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:20 PM, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote: > > > Dear Krishna ji, > One good thing is DK(moon) in the star of AK(mars).Hence no marriage > > can be ruled out since both AK/DK are in 3/11 positions(kama trikonas). > DK in mithuna(couple) aswell supports it.In navamsa both together in > > 12H of bed comfirts from lagna.Leo-Lib chara dasa is operating till the > > end of april;Leo-Sco tilljan 2011 and Leo-Sag till 3-9-2011 from which > > DK is in 7th and marriage can take place anytime b4 that depending upon > > other factors.!!! > I would also like to clarify that between parashar and jaimini one is > > greater/lesser than the other but both are great in their own way and i > > am a lesser mortal who does not even have a right/opinion to judge them > > for sure.I only go for a second opinion like a lesser mortal!!... > > Love and regards, > gopi. > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <kmurthys58 wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > This is the horoscope of one of my relatives. The family is very > concerned > > that the boy is still unmarried. They are from a small town. The > arranged > > marriage proposals are not going through at all since past few years. > I > > request members to shed light on this horoscope. Here are the details: > > > > DOB: 1-Jan-1980 > > TOB: 7:25 am > > POB: Arsikere, India (76E15, 13N18) > > > > I notice the following in the chart that are causing problems: > > > > - Karaka Jupiter is retrograde and afflicted by malefics Mars and Rahu > > - Karaka of spouse Venus is in Rahu-Ketu axis in Navamsha > > - Saturn aspects 7H too, could cause delays > > - 8L Moon occupies 7H > > > > Observations welcome along with probable period for marriage. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Namaste Krishna Ji, In the natal chart, as you remarked 8th lord Moon not only occupies 7H, but 8th lord Moon casts her aspect on 7th lord Mercury also. Moon is a feminine planet that could be interpreted that the obstacles could be from a woman or by a woman. Mercury is conjunct with Sun the 9th lord of fortune. Moon brings obstacles in the 7th house of marriage and the 9th house of fortune and divine help. Thus the 7th lord and 7th house both factors are blemished. The remaining factor, Venus the bhavakaraka, is placed in a neutral place. From the Lagna Lord Jupiter, Venus is ill placed. In Navamsa, Mercury and Venus both have exchanged their amsas. The amsas are the 6th and 7th houses of the natal chart respectively. The current dasha running is of Jupiter/Venus. We have already seen that Jupiter and Venus are mutually ill-placed from each other. In Navamsa, Venus is ill-placed from the Navamsa Lagna, with Rahu. In my view, Jupiter/Venus period is not favorable for marriage though they are (Jupiter/Venus) mutually placed better as compared to their position in natal chart. Interestingly, Moon is the DK and aspected by Saturn the GK. From Upapada lagna, in the second house (quality of marriage) Moon the DK is placed and it is aspected by Saturn the GK. With regards, Sivaprakasam PS: I was away from station for quite sometime. Just now I am going through the group messages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Dear Sivaprakasam ji, Thanks a lot for your observations. I seek one clarification: I agree that Venus is ill placed. But, is this sufficient to conclude that marriage will not take place during Venus bhukti? Regards, Krishna On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Sivaprakasam <sivaprakasamkpmwrote: > > > Namaste Krishna Ji, > > In the natal chart, as you remarked 8th lord Moon not only occupies 7H, but > 8th lord Moon casts her aspect on 7th lord Mercury also. Moon is a feminine > planet that could be interpreted that the obstacles could be from a woman or > by a woman. Mercury is conjunct with Sun the 9th lord of fortune. Moon > brings obstacles in the 7th house of marriage and the 9th house of fortune > and divine help. Thus the 7th lord and 7th house both factors are blemished. > The remaining factor, Venus the bhavakaraka, is placed in a neutral place. > From the Lagna Lord Jupiter, Venus is ill placed. > > In Navamsa, Mercury and Venus both have exchanged their amsas. The amsas > are the 6th and 7th houses of the natal chart respectively. > > The current dasha running is of Jupiter/Venus. We have already seen that > Jupiter and Venus are mutually ill-placed from each other. In Navamsa, Venus > is ill-placed from the Navamsa Lagna, with Rahu. In my view, Jupiter/Venus > period is not favorable for marriage though they are (Jupiter/Venus) > mutually placed better as compared to their position in natal chart. > > Interestingly, Moon is the DK and aspected by Saturn the GK. From Upapada > lagna, in the second house (quality of marriage) Moon the DK is placed and > it is aspected by Saturn the GK. > > With regards, > Sivaprakasam > > PS: I was away from station for quite sometime. Just now I am going through > the group messages. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Namaste Krishna Ji, Venus is the natural karaka for marriage. Venus is the navamsa dispositor of 7th lord i.e. Mercury and the dasha is of Venus, hence it may give marriage. This could be your line of argument if I understood your messages on this thread correctly. Yes I agree and this could be a valid argument. Jupiter is the Lagna lord, during its major period, as a natural and functional benefic for this chart, it is empowered to give marriage during the sub-period of a like minded planet. But Venus is a functional malefic for this lagna. Venus is ill placed not only from the major period lord (Jupiter) but is also ill placed from the seventh house. Venus is the natural karaka for marriage, but from 7th house, Venus is ill placed. Venus is ill placed from the navamsa lagna. You may wish to consider the panchadha maitri relationship between the two planets here i.e. Jupiter and Venus. Jupiter, (the lagna lord i.e. the native) treats the Venus the lord of gains (as lord of 11th house of gains placed in 2nd house of extension of family, Venus can give marriage), as its bitter enemy and Venus treats the Jupiter as its enemy. Hence, I am of the view, the sub-period of Venus is not favorable. From the Moon, Jupiter is the 7th lord. From Jupiter, again Venus would be in 8th house. The earlier arguments would stand good here too. Generally, the dasha of Lagna Lord, 5th lord and 9th lord are favorable for the native. Here it is the dasha of a benefic and a functional malefic and they are not comfortable with each other. Again all the functional benefics for this chart are occupying the constellation of Venus who is ill placed in navamsa which is the chart we consider for marriage. The transits are seemed to be ok. Jupiter is aspecting 7th house. Saturn is aspecting 7th house. But the dasha is not favourable. My simple point here is that even this sub-period of Venus brings some solution towards marriage, there could be some difference of opinion and sudden change may take place in the proceedings because of 6th and 8th roles which Venus bring in. I don't know my line of argument could be a satisfying clarification to your question. With regards, Sivaprakasam jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: > > Dear Sivaprakasam ji, > > Thanks a lot for your observations. I seek one clarification: > > I agree that Venus is ill placed. But, is this sufficient to conclude that > marriage will not take place during Venus bhukti? > > Regards, > Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Dear Sivaprakasam ji, As usual, your post has high level of clarity. Thanks for taking time and addressing my doubt. I agree with your arguments. I must say that I have learnt a couple of things from your post. Thanks a lot. Regards, Krishna On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Sivaprakasam <sivaprakasamkpmwrote: > > > Namaste Krishna Ji, > > Venus is the natural karaka for marriage. Venus is the navamsa dispositor > of 7th lord i.e. Mercury and the dasha is of Venus, hence it may give > marriage. This could be your line of argument if I understood your messages > on this thread correctly. Yes I agree and this could be a valid argument. > > Jupiter is the Lagna lord, during its major period, as a natural and > functional benefic for this chart, it is empowered to give marriage during > the sub-period of a like minded planet. But Venus is a functional malefic > for this lagna. Venus is ill placed not only from the major period lord > (Jupiter) but is also ill placed from the seventh house. Venus is the > natural karaka for marriage, but from 7th house, Venus is ill placed. Venus > is ill placed from the navamsa lagna. You may wish to consider the panchadha > maitri relationship between the two planets here i.e. Jupiter and Venus. > Jupiter, (the lagna lord i.e. the native) treats the Venus the lord of gains > (as lord of 11th house of gains placed in 2nd house of extension of family, > Venus can give marriage), as its bitter enemy and Venus treats the Jupiter > as its enemy. Hence, I am of the view, the sub-period of Venus is not > favorable. > > From the Moon, Jupiter is the 7th lord. From Jupiter, again Venus would be > in 8th house. The earlier arguments would stand good here too. > > Generally, the dasha of Lagna Lord, 5th lord and 9th lord are favorable for > the native. Here it is the dasha of a benefic and a functional malefic and > they are not comfortable with each other. Again all the functional benefics > for this chart are occupying the constellation of Venus who is ill placed in > navamsa which is the chart we consider for marriage. > > The transits are seemed to be ok. Jupiter is aspecting 7th house. Saturn is > aspecting 7th house. But the dasha is not favourable. My simple point here > is that even this sub-period of Venus brings some solution towards marriage, > there could be some difference of opinion and sudden change may take place > in the proceedings because of 6th and 8th roles which Venus bring in. I > don't know my line of argument could be a satisfying clarification to your > question. > > With regards, > Sivaprakasam > > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <kmurthys58 wrote: > > > > Dear Sivaprakasam ji, > > > > Thanks a lot for your observations. I seek one clarification: > > > > I agree that Venus is ill placed. But, is this sufficient to conclude > that > > marriage will not take place during Venus bhukti? > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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