The difference with Hinduism (Bharatji)

[Guest guest]

Namsakar Bharatji,

 

A welcome posting Sir (It has always been a learning experience reading your

posts here and in 'Sohamsa')

 

It is nice to hear a balanced viewpoint in the midst of

all the confusion.

 

Though everyone who has responded to the blasphemous claims of that joker

Sreenadh has noble intentions,the fact of the matter is that the focus of the

attack has been lost (as you pointed out)

 

What India needs at this juncture is a 'Yug Purush' (someone of the stature of

Swami Vivekananda)

 

Sadly,until such time he arrives,we have to bear with the likes of Sreenadh

 

 

With Warm Regards,

 

aavesh

 

 

 

 

 

Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu wrote:

Namaste Sri Kursija

 

Sri M Pandit is a doctor and a surgeon. He is also a writer of astrology

books. He is been a member before I joined in. I will let him give his

introduction to you, but, surely he is not a puja-pathi pandit in the

derogatory sense that you have meant. Many puja-pathi pandits, I know are

doing amazing work.

 

I would rather focus on some of the other comments that you have made,

please read responses in blue:

 

Respected Pandit ji,

I do not know which type of pandit your are. highly

educated and learned pandit or puja-pathi pandit

(karma kandi pandit)According to my experience you

look like a puja-pathi pandita, living in UK.Pandit

living in UK must be having good source of income.You

may not be knowing that in India 70% of population

sleep without food at night, what you say of clothing,

shelter,medical help and education.With all these

powers for which you are advocating India remain slave

to Mugals for thousands of years and two hundreds year

under British empires.Where were your super-natural

power? Why these powers are not able to remove poverty

of India

Whenever India has been invaded, it was due to erosion of values and

corrosion of our Dharma. Selfishness and gratification took precedence

before Dharma. Whenever, we have followed our Dharma we have thrown out

aggressors and also achieved major growth in terms of worldly achievements.

Chanakya used Dharma principles to drive out the greeks. Gandhiji (inspired

by Swami Vivekananda) and many others used Dharma principles to drive out

the British.

 

Dharma protects and nourishes. Adharma erodes and creates division, strife

and poverty in society. Hence, do not blame Religion for it. And do not mock

at the spiritual activity/ meditativeness/ puja vidhi for the ills of not

following dharma.

 

Every where you will find Mandirs and pandits

worshiping and clothing the beautiful images of

God.They can give you food and comforts, but not to

public.The public will get food, health and shelter

when they will get jobs.They will do Karma, not

worship.The worship gives mental peace not physical

health.The physical health will come through yoga and

medicine.If you wants to be happy, first thing is to

be healthy and earn money.

I have seen poor people having more faith in the Lord than many of the so

called Rich. Instead of blaming the Lord for their plight, they happily

worship him for what the Lord has given them. Perhaps they have a stronger

understanding of the Law of Karma, than many of the Vidvaans. They worship

the lord as the karmaphaladata and also as friend who listens to their happy

and sad tales. Why should worship stop because one does not have enough to

eat?

 

Let me also tell you a story of one of my student in a school. When he was

12 years old his father suddenly passed away and mother lost her balance of

mind. This little boy took up work in a garage in the evening and earned and

paid his fees, while in day time he attended School and also took care of

his mother. He told his School principal that he loved my sessions on

Vedanta, cause it gave him strength to live. You know I never thought I was

making such an impact on someone so young and felt my life was worthwhile if

it gives hope to such a young and determined boy who has been through a

tragedy.

 

Herein, Religion gave support, courage and will to live when many could have

perished under the circumstances.

 

I do not want to stretch socio-economic conditions and

customs prevailing in India.I have come to know

recentally to my surprise that some peoples from

different state remove the hairs of their daughter in

laws who become widow and leave them at Brindabad,

Mathra (a tourist spot with so many ashrams and

temples) at the mercy of the pandits. They make them

beg for their lively hood. What to say of poor people

in villages?

It is not my intention to hurt some one. I beg pardon

if I have said some thing harsh and not to the taste

This is a new one. I have not heard of such a thing.

 

Social ills aren't connected to Hindu Dharma. Many a times foolish people

think that Hinduism promotes casteism. This is utterly false. Those who do

not understand Hindu Dharma and have become irreligious promote casteism to

gain person gains. Nowadays, it is the turn of Politicians and some of the

minorities to gain favors and power through promoting casteism.

 

Similarly, if you turn to the roots of a social ill, it would turn out to be

more of a ploy used irrelgiously to gain power, money, etc.

 

Instead of blaming or mocking on pujas, methods of worship, if you were to

focus on the root of the problems, things will be seen with better clarity.

 

Finally, all the threads on Hinduism started with a foolish man saying

rubbish about Lord Rama and his mother. That most of you have lost focus to

tackle him and instead question Hinduism and its practice has left be

astounded. Perhaps you can all focus on what the problem was instead of

increasing posts by erroneously attacking " imagined hinduism " .

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

[Guest guest]

Respected members

 

We are at the right point.let us form our own

political party to save humanism not only in

India but in the whole world.

 

Do the KARMA.Iam ready with men, money,and

mind.Please inform if interested.

 

Waiting for your reply

OM RAHAVE NAMAHA

 

Regards

Dhananjay

 

 

, aavesh t <aavesh_s wrote:

>

> Namsakar Bharatji,

>

> A welcome posting Sir (It has always been a learning experience

reading your posts here and in 'Sohamsa')

>

> It is nice to hear a balanced viewpoint in the midst of

> all the confusion.

>

> Though everyone who has responded to the blasphemous claims of

that joker Sreenadh has noble intentions,the fact of the matter is

that the focus of the attack has been lost (as you pointed out)

>

> What India needs at this juncture is a 'Yug Purush' (someone of

the stature of Swami Vivekananda)

>

> Sadly,until such time he arrives,we have to bear with the likes

of Sreenadh

>

>

> With Warm Regards,

>

> aavesh

>

>

>

>

>

> Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu wrote:

> Namaste Sri Kursija

>

> Sri M Pandit is a doctor and a surgeon. He is also a writer of

astrology

> books. He is been a member before I joined in. I will let him give

his

> introduction to you, but, surely he is not a puja-pathi pandit in

the

> derogatory sense that you have meant. Many puja-pathi pandits, I

know are

> doing amazing work.

>

> I would rather focus on some of the other comments that you have

made,

> please read responses in blue:

>

> Respected Pandit ji,

> I do not know which type of pandit your are. highly

> educated and learned pandit or puja-pathi pandit

> (karma kandi pandit)According to my experience you

> look like a puja-pathi pandita, living in UK.Pandit

> living in UK must be having good source of income.You

> may not be knowing that in India 70% of population

> sleep without food at night, what you say of clothing,

> shelter,medical help and education.With all these

> powers for which you are advocating India remain slave

> to Mugals for thousands of years and two hundreds year

> under British empires.Where were your super-natural

> power? Why these powers are not able to remove poverty

> of India

> Whenever India has been invaded, it was due to erosion of values and

> corrosion of our Dharma. Selfishness and gratification took

precedence

> before Dharma. Whenever, we have followed our Dharma we have thrown

out

> aggressors and also achieved major growth in terms of worldly

achievements.

> Chanakya used Dharma principles to drive out the greeks. Gandhiji

(inspired

> by Swami Vivekananda) and many others used Dharma principles to

drive out

> the British.

>

> Dharma protects and nourishes. Adharma erodes and creates division,

strife

> and poverty in society. Hence, do not blame Religion for it. And do

not mock

> at the spiritual activity/ meditativeness/ puja vidhi for the ills

of not

> following dharma.

>

> Every where you will find Mandirs and pandits

> worshiping and clothing the beautiful images of

> God.They can give you food and comforts, but not to

> public.The public will get food, health and shelter

> when they will get jobs.They will do Karma, not

> worship.The worship gives mental peace not physical

> health.The physical health will come through yoga and

> medicine.If you wants to be happy, first thing is to

> be healthy and earn money.

> I have seen poor people having more faith in the Lord than many of

the so

> called Rich. Instead of blaming the Lord for their plight, they

happily

> worship him for what the Lord has given them. Perhaps they have a

stronger

> understanding of the Law of Karma, than many of the Vidvaans. They

worship

> the lord as the karmaphaladata and also as friend who listens to

their happy

> and sad tales. Why should worship stop because one does not have

enough to

> eat?

>

> Let me also tell you a story of one of my student in a school. When

he was

> 12 years old his father suddenly passed away and mother lost her

balance of

> mind. This little boy took up work in a garage in the evening and

earned and

> paid his fees, while in day time he attended School and also took

care of

> his mother. He told his School principal that he loved my sessions

on

> Vedanta, cause it gave him strength to live. You know I never

thought I was

> making such an impact on someone so young and felt my life was

worthwhile if

> it gives hope to such a young and determined boy who has been

through a

> tragedy.

>

> Herein, Religion gave support, courage and will to live when many

could have

> perished under the circumstances.

>

> I do not want to stretch socio-economic conditions and

> customs prevailing in India.I have come to know

> recentally to my surprise that some peoples from

> different state remove the hairs of their daughter in

> laws who become widow and leave them at Brindabad,

> Mathra (a tourist spot with so many ashrams and

> temples) at the mercy of the pandits. They make them

> beg for their lively hood. What to say of poor people

> in villages?

> It is not my intention to hurt some one. I beg pardon

> if I have said some thing harsh and not to the taste

> This is a new one. I have not heard of such a thing.

>

> Social ills aren't connected to Hindu Dharma. Many a times foolish

people

> think that Hinduism promotes casteism. This is utterly false. Those

who do

> not understand Hindu Dharma and have become irreligious promote

casteism to

> gain person gains. Nowadays, it is the turn of Politicians and some

of the

> minorities to gain favors and power through promoting casteism.

>

> Similarly, if you turn to the roots of a social ill, it would turn

out to be

> more of a ploy used irrelgiously to gain power, money, etc.

>

> Instead of blaming or mocking on pujas, methods of worship, if you

were to

> focus on the root of the problems, things will be seen with better

clarity.

>

> Finally, all the threads on Hinduism started with a foolish man

saying

> rubbish about Lord Rama and his mother. That most of you have lost

focus to

> tackle him and instead question Hinduism and its practice has left

be

> astounded. Perhaps you can all focus on what the problem was

instead of

> increasing posts by erroneously attacking " imagined hinduism " .

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Dhananjay,

 

If it is a cause for good of

Hinduism, then I am with you. Count me in.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote:

>

> Respected members

>

> We are at the right point.let us form our own

> political party to save humanism not only in

> India but in the whole world.

>

> Do the KARMA.Iam ready with men, money,and

> mind.Please inform if interested.

>

> Waiting for your reply

> OM RAHAVE NAMAHA

>

> Regards

> Dhananjay

>

>

> , aavesh t <aavesh_s@> wrote:

> >

> > Namsakar Bharatji,

> >

> > A welcome posting Sir (It has always been a learning experience

> reading your posts here and in 'Sohamsa')

> >

> > It is nice to hear a balanced viewpoint in the midst of

> > all the confusion.

> >

> > Though everyone who has responded to the blasphemous claims of

> that joker Sreenadh has noble intentions,the fact of the matter is

> that the focus of the attack has been lost (as you pointed out)

> >

> > What India needs at this juncture is a 'Yug Purush' (someone of

> the stature of Swami Vivekananda)

> >

> > Sadly,until such time he arrives,we have to bear with the likes

> of Sreenadh

> >

> >

> > With Warm Regards,

> >

> > aavesh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu@> wrote:

> > Namaste Sri Kursija

> >

> > Sri M Pandit is a doctor and a surgeon. He is also a writer of

> astrology

> > books. He is been a member before I joined in. I will let him give

> his

> > introduction to you, but, surely he is not a puja-pathi pandit in

> the

> > derogatory sense that you have meant. Many puja-pathi pandits, I

> know are

> > doing amazing work.

> >

> > I would rather focus on some of the other comments that you have

> made,

> > please read responses in blue:

> >

> > Respected Pandit ji,

> > I do not know which type of pandit your are. highly

> > educated and learned pandit or puja-pathi pandit

> > (karma kandi pandit)According to my experience you

> > look like a puja-pathi pandita, living in UK.Pandit

> > living in UK must be having good source of income.You

> > may not be knowing that in India 70% of population

> > sleep without food at night, what you say of clothing,

> > shelter,medical help and education.With all these

> > powers for which you are advocating India remain slave

> > to Mugals for thousands of years and two hundreds year

> > under British empires.Where were your super-natural

> > power? Why these powers are not able to remove poverty

> > of India

> > Whenever India has been invaded, it was due to erosion of values and

> > corrosion of our Dharma. Selfishness and gratification took

> precedence

> > before Dharma. Whenever, we have followed our Dharma we have thrown

> out

> > aggressors and also achieved major growth in terms of worldly

> achievements.

> > Chanakya used Dharma principles to drive out the greeks. Gandhiji

> (inspired

> > by Swami Vivekananda) and many others used Dharma principles to

> drive out

> > the British.

> >

> > Dharma protects and nourishes. Adharma erodes and creates division,

> strife

> > and poverty in society. Hence, do not blame Religion for it. And do

> not mock

> > at the spiritual activity/ meditativeness/ puja vidhi for the ills

> of not

> > following dharma.

> >

> > Every where you will find Mandirs and pandits

> > worshiping and clothing the beautiful images of

> > God.They can give you food and comforts, but not to

> > public.The public will get food, health and shelter

> > when they will get jobs.They will do Karma, not

> > worship.The worship gives mental peace not physical

> > health.The physical health will come through yoga and

> > medicine.If you wants to be happy, first thing is to

> > be healthy and earn money.

> > I have seen poor people having more faith in the Lord than many of

> the so

> > called Rich. Instead of blaming the Lord for their plight, they

> happily

> > worship him for what the Lord has given them. Perhaps they have a

> stronger

> > understanding of the Law of Karma, than many of the Vidvaans. They

> worship

> > the lord as the karmaphaladata and also as friend who listens to

> their happy

> > and sad tales. Why should worship stop because one does not have

> enough to

> > eat?

> >

> > Let me also tell you a story of one of my student in a school. When

> he was

> > 12 years old his father suddenly passed away and mother lost her

> balance of

> > mind. This little boy took up work in a garage in the evening and

> earned and

> > paid his fees, while in day time he attended School and also took

> care of

> > his mother. He told his School principal that he loved my sessions

> on

> > Vedanta, cause it gave him strength to live. You know I never

> thought I was

> > making such an impact on someone so young and felt my life was

> worthwhile if

> > it gives hope to such a young and determined boy who has been

> through a

> > tragedy.

> >

> > Herein, Religion gave support, courage and will to live when many

> could have

> > perished under the circumstances.

> >

> > I do not want to stretch socio-economic conditions and

> > customs prevailing in India.I have come to know

> > recentally to my surprise that some peoples from

> > different state remove the hairs of their daughter in

> > laws who become widow and leave them at Brindabad,

> > Mathra (a tourist spot with so many ashrams and

> > temples) at the mercy of the pandits. They make them

> > beg for their lively hood. What to say of poor people

> > in villages?

> > It is not my intention to hurt some one. I beg pardon

> > if I have said some thing harsh and not to the taste

> > This is a new one. I have not heard of such a thing.

> >

> > Social ills aren't connected to Hindu Dharma. Many a times foolish

> people

> > think that Hinduism promotes casteism. This is utterly false. Those

> who do

> > not understand Hindu Dharma and have become irreligious promote

> casteism to

> > gain person gains. Nowadays, it is the turn of Politicians and some

> of the

> > minorities to gain favors and power through promoting casteism.

> >

> > Similarly, if you turn to the roots of a social ill, it would turn

> out to be

> > more of a ploy used irrelgiously to gain power, money, etc.

> >

> > Instead of blaming or mocking on pujas, methods of worship, if you

> were to

> > focus on the root of the problems, things will be seen with better

> clarity.

> >

> > Finally, all the threads on Hinduism started with a foolish man

> saying

> > rubbish about Lord Rama and his mother. That most of you have lost

> focus to

> > tackle him and instead question Hinduism and its practice has left

> be

> > astounded. Perhaps you can all focus on what the problem was

> instead of

> > increasing posts by erroneously attacking " imagined hinduism " .

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> >