Jupiter in 4th house

November 13, 2006

Friends,

Have a chart where the person died in Ven-Sat at the age of 39 where Sat

is in Lagna in Capricorn along with jupiter.chart attached.

Jagmeet

November 9, 2007

Dear members

Happy Deepawali

I have seen in few horoscope that if Guru

is plased in 4th house then such a person

have love affair with a women of priestly

caste or with one who is educated or inclined

to be religious.

And if other combination indicates marriage

is also possible.

Iwant to know your views.

Regards

Dhananjay

November 9, 2007

Dear Dhananjay ji,

Any planet in 4th whether Jupiter or whichever,

would not promote the Love affairs, but instead

shatter the same, whenever it gets power to

reign.

Regards to spouse being educated, that can be

seen through the 4th relation with the 7th Lord,

but dignity of many other matters have to be seen

to confirm this wrt a particular chart.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote:

>

> Dear members

> Happy Deepawali

>

> I have seen in few horoscope that if Guru

> is plased in 4th house then such a person

> have love affair with a women of priestly

> caste or with one who is educated or inclined

> to be religious.

> And if other combination indicates marriage

> is also possible.

> Iwant to know your views.

>

> Regards

> Dhananjay

>

November 10, 2007

Dear Bhaskarji

Thanks but i do not agree with u that any

planet in 4th destroys the love life of person.

Lord Sri Krishna have jupiter along with sun

in 4th house.

And for same reason ie guru in 4th,he was

master of occult science,vedas and religion.

How u arrived at this conclusion,please clarify.

Regards

Dhananjay

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Dhananjay ji,

>

> Any planet in 4th whether Jupiter or whichever,

> would not promote the Love affairs, but instead

> shatter the same, whenever it gets power to

> reign.

> Regards to spouse being educated, that can be

> seen through the 4th relation with the 7th Lord,

> but dignity of many other matters have to be seen

> to confirm this wrt a particular chart.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear members

> > Happy Deepawali

> >

> > I have seen in few horoscope that if Guru

> > is plased in 4th house then such a person

> > have love affair with a women of priestly

> > caste or with one who is educated or inclined

> > to be religious.

> > And if other combination indicates marriage

> > is also possible.

> > Iwant to know your views.

> >

> > Regards

> > Dhananjay

> >

>

November 11, 2007

Dear Guptaji,

One may agree to disagree. This is the beautiful

advantage of democracy and ones individual right

which cannot be questioned.

I cannot comment on Lord Shri Krishnas Horoscope

as not worthy enough to talk on such great

Incarnations Birth Charts.

The basic simples rules I follow in astrology

which have made me succesful due to Lord Shri Krishna

and Ma Saraswatis Grace. I do not go for lengthy

technical discussions which cannot be understood or

prove a ache in the head for one who is into astrology.

Any house you take in a chart. The 12th from it will prove

a Titanic for this house which you choose.

For instance-

11th Lord in 11th would prove good for

the gains. But 11th Lord in 10th would not be beneficial

for gains, but just give reputation without

money.

7th Lord in 7th would give a strong partner, but 7th

Lord in 6th would make ones Life hell in marriage

relationships and compatibility within the couple.

The 5th Lord in 5th would give a child. But 5th Lord in

4th may remove the child due to abortions or still birth.

The 5th Lord in 5th would make one a master in speculations,but

the 5th Lord in 4th would always give this person a loss in

speculations.

The 4th Lord in 4th would give good education, but 4th Lord in

3rd would not allow the education to continue and break it.

The 4th Lord in 4th would give one a good house,

but 4th Lord in 3rd would only provide transfers instead of

giving permamnenet house.

There are certain exceptions which I would not go into now.

Same way, the 5th Lord in 5th would give the

person a good aptitude towards entering succesfully

into love affairs. but the 5th Lord in 4th would again

break the love affair and not allow continuity.

Remove the Lords of all above houses from the position

12th from their own houses,

and put any other planet instead. The results would be

the same.

Just remember the basic rule - Any planet 12th from

the house you are looking for, if its in power as the

antardasha Lord or the Mahadasha Lord, would break the

positivesof the house you are looking for.

Though I am not interested in looking at charts for

Love affairs, due to professional commitments,

I have to take up on an average 50-70 charts per month

coming with such queries.

Now I post a simple riddle. Why will a Leo ascendant be

never successful in his Love affairs, or in most cases

never be happy in his married Life ? The answer will

also open up a new avenue for you, to the other important

reasons why Love affairs are not successful at times.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji

> Thanks but i do not agree with u that any

> planet in 4th destroys the love life of person.

> Lord Sri Krishna have jupiter along with sun

> in 4th house.

> And for same reason ie guru in 4th,he was

> master of occult science,vedas and religion.

> How u arrived at this conclusion,please clarify.

> Regards

> Dhananjay

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Dhananjay ji,

> >

> > Any planet in 4th whether Jupiter or whichever,

> > would not promote the Love affairs, but instead

> > shatter the same, whenever it gets power to

> > reign.

> > Regards to spouse being educated, that can be

> > seen through the 4th relation with the 7th Lord,

> > but dignity of many other matters have to be seen

> > to confirm this wrt a particular chart.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members

> > > Happy Deepawali

> > >

> > > I have seen in few horoscope that if Guru

> > > is plased in 4th house then such a person

> > > have love affair with a women of priestly

> > > caste or with one who is educated or inclined

> > > to be religious.

> > > And if other combination indicates marriage

> > > is also possible.

> > > Iwant to know your views.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Dhananjay

> > >

> >

>

November 11, 2007

Dear Bhaskarji

What would be your opinion on a strong 5th lord in 5th house,alone and

unaspected.. Can this deny children, especially, if this happens to be

Saturn? If time permits, can you please have a look at the below data and

express your views, especially on 5th house and in relation to what you have

stated below.

17 nov 1963

4:17 A.M.

Jaipur, Rajasthan

Virgo lagna, Leo navamsha

Best regards

AM

On

Behalf Of Bhaskar

11 November 2007 10:14

Re: Jupiter in 4th house

Dear Guptaji,

One may agree to disagree. This is the beautiful

advantage of democracy and ones individual right

which cannot be questioned.

I cannot comment on Lord Shri Krishnas Horoscope

as not worthy enough to talk on such great

Incarnations Birth Charts.

The basic simples rules I follow in astrology

which have made me succesful due to Lord Shri Krishna

and Ma Saraswatis Grace. I do not go for lengthy

technical discussions which cannot be understood or

prove a ache in the head for one who is into astrology.

Any house you take in a chart. The 12th from it will prove

a Titanic for this house which you choose.

For instance-

11th Lord in 11th would prove good for

the gains. But 11th Lord in 10th would not be beneficial

for gains, but just give reputation without

money.

7th Lord in 7th would give a strong partner, but 7th

Lord in 6th would make ones Life hell in marriage

relationships and compatibility within the couple.

The 5th Lord in 5th would give a child. But 5th Lord in

4th may remove the child due to abortions or still birth.

The 5th Lord in 5th would make one a master in speculations,but

the 5th Lord in 4th would always give this person a loss in

speculations.

The 4th Lord in 4th would give good education, but 4th Lord in

3rd would not allow the education to continue and break it.

The 4th Lord in 4th would give one a good house,

but 4th Lord in 3rd would only provide transfers instead of

giving permamnenet house.

There are certain exceptions which I would not go into now.

Same way, the 5th Lord in 5th would give the

person a good aptitude towards entering succesfully

into love affairs. but the 5th Lord in 4th would again

break the love affair and not allow continuity.

Remove the Lords of all above houses from the position

12th from their own houses,

and put any other planet instead. The results would be

the same.

Just remember the basic rule - Any planet 12th from

the house you are looking for, if its in power as the

antardasha Lord or the Mahadasha Lord, would break the

positivesof the house you are looking for.

Though I am not interested in looking at charts for

Love affairs, due to professional commitments,

I have to take up on an average 50-70 charts per month

coming with such queries.

Now I post a simple riddle. Why will a Leo ascendant be

never successful in his Love affairs, or in most cases

never be happy in his married Life ? The answer will

also open up a new avenue for you, to the other important

reasons why Love affairs are not successful at times.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji

> Thanks but i do not agree with u that any

> planet in 4th destroys the love life of person.

> Lord Sri Krishna have jupiter along with sun

> in 4th house.

> And for same reason ie guru in 4th,he was

> master of occult science,vedas and religion.

> How u arrived at this conclusion,please clarify.

> Regards

> Dhananjay

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Dhananjay ji,

> >

> > Any planet in 4th whether Jupiter or whichever,

> > would not promote the Love affairs, but instead

> > shatter the same, whenever it gets power to

> > reign.

> > Regards to spouse being educated, that can be

> > seen through the 4th relation with the 7th Lord,

> > but dignity of many other matters have to be seen

> > to confirm this wrt a particular chart.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members

> > > Happy Deepawali

> > >

> > > I have seen in few horoscope that if Guru

> > > is plased in 4th house then such a person

> > > have love affair with a women of priestly

> > > caste or with one who is educated or inclined

> > > to be religious.

> > > And if other combination indicates marriage

> > > is also possible.

> > > Iwant to know your views.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Dhananjay

> > >

> >

>

November 11, 2007

Dear Arunji,

The 5th Lord in the 5th house, strong and unaspected

by malefics, is bound to give a child.

In the example Chart You have given, note that

Saturn though strong and occupying

its own sign and own house, which is

the 5th house, in Natal Chart.

1) Saturn moves to the 4th House in the Bhava Chalit Chart.

Jupiter is karaka of Children and strong, but note that

2) Jupiter is strong Lord of the 4th which opposes child

Birth.

Also note that

3) Saturn is in the Nakshatra Dhanishta owned by Mars

who is the 8th Lord in this Chart.

4) In the Navamsha chart again the 8th Lord Mars is seated

in the 5th house.

5) From the Moon Lagna, the 4th Lord Saturn is aspecting

the 5th Lord and sign and house , Jupiter.

6) The Saptamsha has the 5th Lord Saturn placed in the 4th

house, in sign of Jupiter, while Jupiter Lord of 4th is placed

strong in same sign.

I think it will be diffcult for the native to bear a

child, who will live, unless the wifes chart supports a

child strongly.

Please let us know the actual hapennings in the natives Life.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " arun mandhana " <mandhana

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji

>

> What would be your opinion on a strong 5th lord in 5th house,alone

and

> unaspected.. Can this deny children, especially, if this happens to

be

> Saturn? If time permits, can you please have a look at the below

data and

> express your views, especially on 5th house and in relation to what

you have

> stated below.

>

> 17 nov 1963

> 4:17 A.M.

> Jaipur, Rajasthan

> Virgo lagna, Leo navamsha

>

> Best regards

>

> AM

>

On

> Behalf Of Bhaskar

> 11 November 2007 10:14

>

> Re: Jupiter in 4th house

>

> Dear Guptaji,

>

> One may agree to disagree. This is the beautiful

> advantage of democracy and ones individual right

> which cannot be questioned.

>

> I cannot comment on Lord Shri Krishnas Horoscope

> as not worthy enough to talk on such great

> Incarnations Birth Charts.

>

> The basic simples rules I follow in astrology

> which have made me succesful due to Lord Shri Krishna

> and Ma Saraswatis Grace. I do not go for lengthy

> technical discussions which cannot be understood or

> prove a ache in the head for one who is into astrology.

>

> Any house you take in a chart. The 12th from it will prove

> a Titanic for this house which you choose.

>

> For instance-

>

> 11th Lord in 11th would prove good for

> the gains. But 11th Lord in 10th would not be beneficial

> for gains, but just give reputation without

> money.

>

> 7th Lord in 7th would give a strong partner, but 7th

> Lord in 6th would make ones Life hell in marriage

> relationships and compatibility within the couple.

>

> The 5th Lord in 5th would give a child. But 5th Lord in

> 4th may remove the child due to abortions or still birth.

>

> The 5th Lord in 5th would make one a master in speculations,but

> the 5th Lord in 4th would always give this person a loss in

> speculations.

>

> The 4th Lord in 4th would give good education, but 4th Lord in

> 3rd would not allow the education to continue and break it.

>

> The 4th Lord in 4th would give one a good house,

> but 4th Lord in 3rd would only provide transfers instead of

> giving permamnenet house.

>

> There are certain exceptions which I would not go into now.

>

> Same way, the 5th Lord in 5th would give the

> person a good aptitude towards entering succesfully

> into love affairs. but the 5th Lord in 4th would again

> break the love affair and not allow continuity.

>

> Remove the Lords of all above houses from the position

> 12th from their own houses,

> and put any other planet instead. The results would be

> the same.

>

> Just remember the basic rule - Any planet 12th from

> the house you are looking for, if its in power as the

> antardasha Lord or the Mahadasha Lord, would break the

> positivesof the house you are looking for.

>

> Though I am not interested in looking at charts for

> Love affairs, due to professional commitments,

> I have to take up on an average 50-70 charts per month

> coming with such queries.

>

> Now I post a simple riddle. Why will a Leo ascendant be

> never successful in his Love affairs, or in most cases

> never be happy in his married Life ? The answer will

> also open up a new avenue for you, to the other important

> reasons why Love affairs are not successful at times.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji

> > Thanks but i do not agree with u that any

> > planet in 4th destroys the love life of person.

> > Lord Sri Krishna have jupiter along with sun

> > in 4th house.

> > And for same reason ie guru in 4th,he was

> > master of occult science,vedas and religion.

> > How u arrived at this conclusion,please clarify.

> > Regards

> > Dhananjay

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Dhananjay ji,

> > >

> > > Any planet in 4th whether Jupiter or whichever,

> > > would not promote the Love affairs, but instead

> > > shatter the same, whenever it gets power to

> > > reign.

> > > Regards to spouse being educated, that can be

> > > seen through the 4th relation with the 7th Lord,

> > > but dignity of many other matters have to be seen

> > > to confirm this wrt a particular chart.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members

> > > > Happy Deepawali

> > > >

> > > > I have seen in few horoscope that if Guru

> > > > is plased in 4th house then such a person

> > > > have love affair with a women of priestly

> > > > caste or with one who is educated or inclined

> > > > to be religious.

> > > > And if other combination indicates marriage

> > > > is also possible.

> > > > Iwant to know your views.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Dhananjay

> > > >

> > >

>

November 11, 2007

Sorry for interrupting,as the question was put to Bhaskar.

I can see the child through adoption and not by normal means.The Spouce may

have problem. The Moon and Mercury combust in one star and the pada in

Saturn star. Saturn as 5th sublord in Mars star and Mars in 2nd ensures

child , but not by normal means.

With Best wishes,

Inder Jit Sahni

On

Behalf Of arun mandhana

Sunday, November 11, 2007 4:03 PM

RE: Re: Jupiter in 4th house

Dear Bhaskarji

What would be your opinion on a strong 5th lord in 5th house,alone and

unaspected.. Can this deny children, especially, if this happens to be

Saturn? If time permits, can you please have a look at the below data and

express your views, especially on 5th house and in relation to what you have

stated below.

17 nov 1963

4:17 A.M.

Jaipur, Rajasthan

Virgo lagna, Leo navamsha

Best regards

AM

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11 November 2007 10:14

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Re: Jupiter in 4th house

Dear Guptaji,

One may agree to disagree. This is the beautiful

advantage of democracy and ones individual right

which cannot be questioned.

I cannot comment on Lord Shri Krishnas Horoscope

as not worthy enough to talk on such great

Incarnations Birth Charts.

The basic simples rules I follow in astrology

which have made me succesful due to Lord Shri Krishna

and Ma Saraswatis Grace. I do not go for lengthy

technical discussions which cannot be understood or

prove a ache in the head for one who is into astrology.

Any house you take in a chart. The 12th from it will prove

a Titanic for this house which you choose.

For instance-

11th Lord in 11th would prove good for

the gains. But 11th Lord in 10th would not be beneficial

for gains, but just give reputation without

money.

7th Lord in 7th would give a strong partner, but 7th

Lord in 6th would make ones Life hell in marriage

relationships and compatibility within the couple.

The 5th Lord in 5th would give a child. But 5th Lord in

4th may remove the child due to abortions or still birth.

The 5th Lord in 5th would make one a master in speculations,but

the 5th Lord in 4th would always give this person a loss in

speculations.

The 4th Lord in 4th would give good education, but 4th Lord in

3rd would not allow the education to continue and break it.

The 4th Lord in 4th would give one a good house,

but 4th Lord in 3rd would only provide transfers instead of

giving permamnenet house.

There are certain exceptions which I would not go into now.

Same way, the 5th Lord in 5th would give the

person a good aptitude towards entering succesfully

into love affairs. but the 5th Lord in 4th would again

break the love affair and not allow continuity.

Remove the Lords of all above houses from the position

12th from their own houses,

and put any other planet instead. The results would be

the same.

Just remember the basic rule - Any planet 12th from

the house you are looking for, if its in power as the

antardasha Lord or the Mahadasha Lord, would break the

positivesof the house you are looking for.

Though I am not interested in looking at charts for

Love affairs, due to professional commitments,

I have to take up on an average 50-70 charts per month

coming with such queries.

Now I post a simple riddle. Why will a Leo ascendant be

never successful in his Love affairs, or in most cases

never be happy in his married Life ? The answer will

also open up a new avenue for you, to the other important

reasons why Love affairs are not successful at times.

regards,

Bhaskar.

HYPERLINK

" %40 " ,

" gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji

> Thanks but i do not agree with u that any

> planet in 4th destroys the love life of person.

> Lord Sri Krishna have jupiter along with sun

> in 4th house.

> And for same reason ie guru in 4th,he was

> master of occult science,vedas and religion.

> How u arrived at this conclusion,please clarify.

> Regards

> Dhananjay

>

> HYPERLINK

" %40 " ,

" Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Dhananjay ji,

> >

> > Any planet in 4th whether Jupiter or whichever,

> > would not promote the Love affairs, but instead

> > shatter the same, whenever it gets power to

> > reign.

> > Regards to spouse being educated, that can be

> > seen through the 4th relation with the 7th Lord,

> > but dignity of many other matters have to be seen

> > to confirm this wrt a particular chart.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > HYPERLINK

" %40 " ,

" gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members

> > > Happy Deepawali

> > >

> > > I have seen in few horoscope that if Guru

> > > is plased in 4th house then such a person

> > > have love affair with a women of priestly

> > > caste or with one who is educated or inclined

> > > to be religious.

> > > And if other combination indicates marriage

> > > is also possible.

> > > Iwant to know your views.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Dhananjay

> > >

> >

>

November 11, 2007

Dear Sahni ji,

I normally avoid KP here as most of the members are

well versant with the traditional format in this Forum.

The 5th SL as You said is Saturn.

If we do not rectify the 5th SL and

consider same as right, then Saturn is placed in

4th as owner of 5th, which itself neutralises the

situation of child birth. Child birth there but

no happiness of child birth also existent.

But there is no fertility problem in the man. He is

fully capable of impregnating .

Saturn signifies 8th house whowing abortions

or still birth. Both StarLord and SubLord of

Saturn being Mars, 8th house as well as 2nd house

both are signified. This means happiness of family

may be present, but how ? This can only be possible

with a strong 5th SL in the wifes chart. I will

not comment on the actual outcome without

looking at the wifes chart which is utmost

necessary for child birth queries

as the child is born in the Foetus of the mother.

Let the concerned member answer this query.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " Inder Jit Sahni "

<inder_jit_sahni wrote:

>

> Sorry for interrupting,as the question was put to Bhaskar.

>

> I can see the child through adoption and not by normal means.The

Spouce may

> have problem. The Moon and Mercury combust in one star and the pada

in

> Saturn star. Saturn as 5th sublord in Mars star and Mars in 2nd

ensures

> child , but not by normal means.

>

> With Best wishes,

>

> Inder Jit Sahni

>

On

> Behalf Of arun mandhana

> Sunday, November 11, 2007 4:03 PM

>

> RE: Re: Jupiter in 4th house

>

> Dear Bhaskarji

>

> What would be your opinion on a strong 5th lord in 5th house,alone

and

> unaspected.. Can this deny children, especially, if this happens to

be

> Saturn? If time permits, can you please have a look at the below

data and

> express your views, especially on 5th house and in relation to what

you have

> stated below.

>

> 17 nov 1963

> 4:17 A.M.

> Jaipur, Rajasthan

> Virgo lagna, Leo navamsha

>

> Best regards

>

> AM

>

> HYPERLINK

> " %40 "

> [HYPERLINK

> " %

40 " ] On

> Behalf Of Bhaskar

> 11 November 2007 10:14

> HYPERLINK

> " %40 "

> Re: Jupiter in 4th house

>

> Dear Guptaji,

>

> One may agree to disagree. This is the beautiful

> advantage of democracy and ones individual right

> which cannot be questioned.

>

> I cannot comment on Lord Shri Krishnas Horoscope

> as not worthy enough to talk on such great

> Incarnations Birth Charts.

>

> The basic simples rules I follow in astrology

> which have made me succesful due to Lord Shri Krishna

> and Ma Saraswatis Grace. I do not go for lengthy

> technical discussions which cannot be understood or

> prove a ache in the head for one who is into astrology.

>

> Any house you take in a chart. The 12th from it will prove

> a Titanic for this house which you choose.

>

> For instance-

>

> 11th Lord in 11th would prove good for

> the gains. But 11th Lord in 10th would not be beneficial

> for gains, but just give reputation without

> money.

>

> 7th Lord in 7th would give a strong partner, but 7th

> Lord in 6th would make ones Life hell in marriage

> relationships and compatibility within the couple.

>

> The 5th Lord in 5th would give a child. But 5th Lord in

> 4th may remove the child due to abortions or still birth.

>

> The 5th Lord in 5th would make one a master in speculations,but

> the 5th Lord in 4th would always give this person a loss in

> speculations.

>

> The 4th Lord in 4th would give good education, but 4th Lord in

> 3rd would not allow the education to continue and break it.

>

> The 4th Lord in 4th would give one a good house,

> but 4th Lord in 3rd would only provide transfers instead of

> giving permamnenet house.

>

> There are certain exceptions which I would not go into now.

>

> Same way, the 5th Lord in 5th would give the

> person a good aptitude towards entering succesfully

> into love affairs. but the 5th Lord in 4th would again

> break the love affair and not allow continuity.

>

> Remove the Lords of all above houses from the position

> 12th from their own houses,

> and put any other planet instead. The results would be

> the same.

>

> Just remember the basic rule - Any planet 12th from

> the house you are looking for, if its in power as the

> antardasha Lord or the Mahadasha Lord, would break the

> positivesof the house you are looking for.

>

> Though I am not interested in looking at charts for

> Love affairs, due to professional commitments,

> I have to take up on an average 50-70 charts per month

> coming with such queries.

>

> Now I post a simple riddle. Why will a Leo ascendant be

> never successful in his Love affairs, or in most cases

> never be happy in his married Life ? The answer will

> also open up a new avenue for you, to the other important

> reasons why Love affairs are not successful at times.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> HYPERLINK

> " %40 " ,

> " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji

> > Thanks but i do not agree with u that any

> > planet in 4th destroys the love life of person.

> > Lord Sri Krishna have jupiter along with sun

> > in 4th house.

> > And for same reason ie guru in 4th,he was

> > master of occult science,vedas and religion.

> > How u arrived at this conclusion,please clarify.

> > Regards

> > Dhananjay

> >

> > HYPERLINK

> " %40 " ,

> " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Dhananjay ji,

> > >

> > > Any planet in 4th whether Jupiter or whichever,

> > > would not promote the Love affairs, but instead

> > > shatter the same, whenever it gets power to

> > > reign.

> > > Regards to spouse being educated, that can be

> > > seen through the 4th relation with the 7th Lord,

> > > but dignity of many other matters have to be seen

> > > to confirm this wrt a particular chart.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > HYPERLINK

> " %40 " ,

> " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members

> > > > Happy Deepawali

> > > >

> > > > I have seen in few horoscope that if Guru

> > > > is plased in 4th house then such a person

> > > > have love affair with a women of priestly

> > > > caste or with one who is educated or inclined

> > > > to be religious.

> > > > And if other combination indicates marriage

> > > > is also possible.

> > > > Iwant to know your views.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Dhananjay

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

November 12, 2007

Bhaskar ji thanks

Ego problem for leo assandant. royal nature and

ego problem comes in between love life of such

person.

I think u have leo assandant with jupiter

lord of 5th in forth.

One more thing can we take 6th or 8th house

also simillarly.

REGARDS

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Guptaji,

>

> One may agree to disagree. This is the beautiful

> advantage of democracy and ones individual right

> which cannot be questioned.

>

> I cannot comment on Lord Shri Krishnas Horoscope

> as not worthy enough to talk on such great

> Incarnations Birth Charts.

>

> The basic simples rules I follow in astrology

> which have made me succesful due to Lord Shri Krishna

> and Ma Saraswatis Grace. I do not go for lengthy

> technical discussions which cannot be understood or

> prove a ache in the head for one who is into astrology.

>

> Any house you take in a chart. The 12th from it will prove

> a Titanic for this house which you choose.

>

> For instance-

>

> 11th Lord in 11th would prove good for

> the gains. But 11th Lord in 10th would not be beneficial

> for gains, but just give reputation without

> money.

>

> 7th Lord in 7th would give a strong partner, but 7th

> Lord in 6th would make ones Life hell in marriage

> relationships and compatibility within the couple.

>

> The 5th Lord in 5th would give a child. But 5th Lord in

> 4th may remove the child due to abortions or still birth.

>

> The 5th Lord in 5th would make one a master in speculations,but

> the 5th Lord in 4th would always give this person a loss in

> speculations.

>

> The 4th Lord in 4th would give good education, but 4th Lord in

> 3rd would not allow the education to continue and break it.

>

> The 4th Lord in 4th would give one a good house,

> but 4th Lord in 3rd would only provide transfers instead of

> giving permamnenet house.

>

> There are certain exceptions which I would not go into now.

>

> Same way, the 5th Lord in 5th would give the

> person a good aptitude towards entering succesfully

> into love affairs. but the 5th Lord in 4th would again

> break the love affair and not allow continuity.

>

> Remove the Lords of all above houses from the position

> 12th from their own houses,

> and put any other planet instead. The results would be

> the same.

>

> Just remember the basic rule - Any planet 12th from

> the house you are looking for, if its in power as the

> antardasha Lord or the Mahadasha Lord, would break the

> positivesof the house you are looking for.

>

> Though I am not interested in looking at charts for

> Love affairs, due to professional commitments,

> I have to take up on an average 50-70 charts per month

> coming with such queries.

>

> Now I post a simple riddle. Why will a Leo ascendant be

> never successful in his Love affairs, or in most cases

> never be happy in his married Life ? The answer will

> also open up a new avenue for you, to the other important

> reasons why Love affairs are not successful at times.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji

> > Thanks but i do not agree with u that any

> > planet in 4th destroys the love life of person.

> > Lord Sri Krishna have jupiter along with sun

> > in 4th house.

> > And for same reason ie guru in 4th,he was

> > master of occult science,vedas and religion.

> > How u arrived at this conclusion,please clarify.

> > Regards

> > Dhananjay

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Dhananjay ji,

> > >

> > > Any planet in 4th whether Jupiter or whichever,

> > > would not promote the Love affairs, but instead

> > > shatter the same, whenever it gets power to

> > > reign.

> > > Regards to spouse being educated, that can be

> > > seen through the 4th relation with the 7th Lord,

> > > but dignity of many other matters have to be seen

> > > to confirm this wrt a particular chart.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members

> > > > Happy Deepawali

> > > >

> > > > I have seen in few horoscope that if Guru

> > > > is plased in 4th house then such a person

> > > > have love affair with a women of priestly

> > > > caste or with one who is educated or inclined

> > > > to be religious.

> > > > And if other combination indicates marriage

> > > > is also possible.

> > > > Iwant to know your views.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Dhananjay

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

November 12, 2007

Dear Guptaji,

You have rightly pointed out the clue from the

6th and the 8th house. Very Good.

I am a Leo ascendant. But my Jupiter is placed in

Capricorn , retrograde, and in the 5th Bhava in the

Bhava Chalit Chart, which is the chart I use extensively

for my predictions, and not the Natal Chart.

You are right about the nature of Leo natives. Their

Egoism comes in between to compromise with the worst

enemy , denoted by the 7th House, owned by Saturn.

The day a Leo person would be able to close this

divide, he would be released from the bonds of

karma, but easier said then done. A Hot Leo and a cold

Saturn represented by natives from either side,

would be the fiercest opposition one may face in Life.

Do You know that Leo can control every other ascendant

but one? And if you marry this Leo to this ascendant then

God be over you, otherwise the bombs of Hiroshima

and Nagasaki too would look small in the battles that

would follow without the presence of God enveloping

these natives. Well You need not think further, I am

talking of the ascendant Scorpio. My Guru in

Bhartiya vidya Bhuvan

taught us long back, that the deadliest combination

in marriage would be of a Leo and Scorpio.

And only a Scorpio can control a Leo and vice versa.

Both these Ascendants can control the other 10

ascendants easily, otherwise.

My wife is a Scorpio by the way, with Mars in Lagna,

and same with me, I too have Mars in Lagna, with a

flavour of Rahu added to it.

So many would feel relieved to know that I have

a double dose of oppositions to contend with, firstly my

own 7th house representing Saturn, and to top it the icing

is served with a Mars in Scorpio as my wedded partner.

But dont jump to

conclusions right away. My wife is one of the most

devout persons I have ever met in Life,

not withstanding our separate Ego clashes, and

giving full credit to her, she can stop a running car in

midway with her spiritual powers. I would not be

able to live a controlled Life without her leash on me.

And I am satisfied because we get what we

deserve, we reap what we sow, and we attract the

destiny which we ourselves create. What is a Life

without a challenge. Let me tell you one secret,

any person whose wife treats him like a King regardless

of the wealth a man earns, even a paltry sum daily,

is the Real King in this world. But dont try getting

Yourself treated like a King please.

You may land in wrong places for which I will not be

responsible. It is better for us men to remain

humble in this area and be a " Yes man "

to live a easier Life ( I am preaching without practise

here but if I parctise I will be bullied further, my

case is an exception. Ha Ha).

Now coming to a generalised results why Leos do

not have a happily married Life thereafter, it is

because the 7th Lord Saturn is the staunch enemy of the

Leo ascendant Lord ,The Sun (So is the case with most

of the ascendants, but natural enmity is not so much

pronounced as in here). And incidentally Saturn is also

the Lord of the 6th house, which is the 12th to the 7th and

opposes the positives of the 6th. So here you have a planet

which is not exactly dual in nature, but acting dually

here.

Now why do Leos normally not have a fairy tale romance,

is because , the 5th Lord even if placed in the 5th house,

would still be the Lord of the 8th house, and will again

break the long standing relationship propensities,

as soon as the couple starts thinking that they are made

for each other. And the relationship

would end on a funny note abruptly, instead hatred

would develop in most of these ended relationships.

Some may agree to disagree, it is their

prerogative.

Thus what we learn here among other things, is that

wherever the 8th house comes in play,

as regards to any matter, in Love it would

provide break in relationship, in education

again breaks, in Health, near death like experiences,

in Sale of property - losses, in childbirth- abortions, in

sex- illicit relationships etc.

regards,

Bhaskar.

Bhaskar ji thanks

Ego problem for leo assandant. royal nature and

ego problem comes in between love life of such

person.

I think u have leo assandant with jupiter

lord of 5th in forth.

One more thing can we take 6th or 8th house

also simillarly.

REGARDS

, " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote:

>

> Bhaskar ji thanks

> Ego problem for leo assandant. royal nature and

> ego problem comes in between love life of such

> person.

> I think u have leo assandant with jupiter

> lord of 5th in forth.

> One more thing can we take 6th or 8th house

> also simillarly.

> REGARDS

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Guptaji,

> >

> > One may agree to disagree. This is the beautiful

> > advantage of democracy and ones individual right

> > which cannot be questioned.

> >

> > I cannot comment on Lord Shri Krishnas Horoscope

> > as not worthy enough to talk on such great

> > Incarnations Birth Charts.

> >

> > The basic simples rules I follow in astrology

> > which have made me succesful due to Lord Shri Krishna

> > and Ma Saraswatis Grace. I do not go for lengthy

> > technical discussions which cannot be understood or

> > prove a ache in the head for one who is into astrology.

> >

> > Any house you take in a chart. The 12th from it will prove

> > a Titanic for this house which you choose.

> >

> > For instance-

> >

> > 11th Lord in 11th would prove good for

> > the gains. But 11th Lord in 10th would not be beneficial

> > for gains, but just give reputation without

> > money.

> >

> > 7th Lord in 7th would give a strong partner, but 7th

> > Lord in 6th would make ones Life hell in marriage

> > relationships and compatibility within the couple.

> >

> > The 5th Lord in 5th would give a child. But 5th Lord in

> > 4th may remove the child due to abortions or still birth.

> >

> > The 5th Lord in 5th would make one a master in speculations,but

> > the 5th Lord in 4th would always give this person a loss in

> > speculations.

> >

> > The 4th Lord in 4th would give good education, but 4th Lord in

> > 3rd would not allow the education to continue and break it.

> >

> > The 4th Lord in 4th would give one a good house,

> > but 4th Lord in 3rd would only provide transfers instead of

> > giving permamnenet house.

> >

> > There are certain exceptions which I would not go into now.

> >

> > Same way, the 5th Lord in 5th would give the

> > person a good aptitude towards entering succesfully

> > into love affairs. but the 5th Lord in 4th would again

> > break the love affair and not allow continuity.

> >

> > Remove the Lords of all above houses from the position

> > 12th from their own houses,

> > and put any other planet instead. The results would be

> > the same.

> >

> > Just remember the basic rule - Any planet 12th from

> > the house you are looking for, if its in power as the

> > antardasha Lord or the Mahadasha Lord, would break the

> > positivesof the house you are looking for.

> >

> > Though I am not interested in looking at charts for

> > Love affairs, due to professional commitments,

> > I have to take up on an average 50-70 charts per month

> > coming with such queries.

> >

> > Now I post a simple riddle. Why will a Leo ascendant be

> > never successful in his Love affairs, or in most cases

> > never be happy in his married Life ? The answer will

> > also open up a new avenue for you, to the other important

> > reasons why Love affairs are not successful at times.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskarji

> > > Thanks but i do not agree with u that any

> > > planet in 4th destroys the love life of person.

> > > Lord Sri Krishna have jupiter along with sun

> > > in 4th house.

> > > And for same reason ie guru in 4th,he was

> > > master of occult science,vedas and religion.

> > > How u arrived at this conclusion,please clarify.

> > > Regards

> > > Dhananjay

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Dhananjay ji,

> > > >

> > > > Any planet in 4th whether Jupiter or whichever,

> > > > would not promote the Love affairs, but instead

> > > > shatter the same, whenever it gets power to

> > > > reign.

> > > > Regards to spouse being educated, that can be

> > > > seen through the 4th relation with the 7th Lord,

> > > > but dignity of many other matters have to be seen

> > > > to confirm this wrt a particular chart.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members

> > > > > Happy Deepawali

> > > > >

> > > > > I have seen in few horoscope that if Guru

> > > > > is plased in 4th house then such a person

> > > > > have love affair with a women of priestly

> > > > > caste or with one who is educated or inclined

> > > > > to be religious.

> > > > > And if other combination indicates marriage

> > > > > is also possible.

> > > > > Iwant to know your views.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Dhananjay

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

November 12, 2007

Saturn is ruler of the 7th house of the leo ascendant. because it is a

malefic and also a planet of sorrow perhaps is that the reason he will not

be happy in marriage? but jupiter is ruler of the 5th house of love affairs

so the person should have those however.

love to hear comments. this was a very superficial analysis however.

__________

Raja G. Gursahani

*: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

*: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

November 12, 2007

The basic understanding of the planets have to

be brought to another level first, to understand

how planets would function. No planet is good

no planet is bad. No planet is sorrowful

and no planet would give complete happiness.

They will only deliver results as one will ask for

the same as per his actions, nothing more. Planets

do not function in a biased way. Saturn is also the

planet for great happines, if one deserves the same.

Considering Saturn as Malefic for a Leo, is

not entirely true. saturn also has good

things to give to the Leo

ascendant, which I will

not go into now.

Same with Venus. If this malefic for

Leo ascendant is weak then it will on the contrary

be helpful in giving wealth to a Leo native.

My mail has been read hurriedly it seems. Jupiter

will not allow Love to be nurtured because it is

simultaneously

Lord of the 8th, and will not listen to

us or bow down before us, or do our bidding and not

portray his 8th Lordship powers.

Bhaskar.

, " Raja Gursahani "

<rajagursahani wrote:

>

> Saturn is ruler of the 7th house of the leo ascendant. because it

is a

> malefic and also a planet of sorrow perhaps is that the reason he

will not

> be happy in marriage? but jupiter is ruler of the 5th house of love

affairs

> so the person should have those however.

>

> love to hear comments. this was a very superficial analysis however.

>

> __________

>

> Raja G. Gursahani

> *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

> *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

>

November 12, 2007

// love to hear comments. this was a very superficial

analysis however. //

Would like to have you more specific on the superficial part.

Which Lines, Logic, rules werefound superficial and not

holding to the actual effects as mentioned in the mail ?

So that I could improve on them if I could and if needed.

Bhaskar.

, " Raja Gursahani "

<rajagursahani wrote:

>

> Saturn is ruler of the 7th house of the leo ascendant. because it

is a

> malefic and also a planet of sorrow perhaps is that the reason he

will not

> be happy in marriage? but jupiter is ruler of the 5th house of love

affairs

> so the person should have those however.

>

> love to hear comments. this was a very superficial analysis however.

>

> __________

>

> Raja G. Gursahani

> *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

> *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

>

November 12, 2007

// also a planet of sorrow //

Saturn cannot generally cause sorrow

to a Capricorn as Lord of 1st and 2nd.

Same for Aquarius native.

Same for Aries native.

Same for Taurus native.

Unless they are placed in a extremely bad state.

You may expand on the other ascendants.

regards/Bhaskar.

, " Raja Gursahani "

<rajagursahani wrote:

>

> Saturn is ruler of the 7th house of the leo ascendant. because it

is a

> malefic and also a planet of sorrow perhaps is that the reason he

will not

> be happy in marriage? but jupiter is ruler of the 5th house of love

affairs

> so the person should have those however.

>

> love to hear comments. this was a very superficial analysis however.

>

> __________

>

> Raja G. Gursahani

> *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

> *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

>

November 13, 2007

What is implied ? Suggested ? Or Taught ?

What should we infer from this ? Or Learn ?

What has been your research on this ?

And what did you arrive at, after you have

done this study ?

How did Saturn in Lagna alongwith Jupiter

give this person a small ayu ? Did you

find out ? Is this ever possible ?

( The Lagna Lord strong as well as the

natural karaka of longevity strong,

then how the native got death at

small age ?

How did you attribute the death of

this person at the age of 39, with the

presence of Saturn and Jupiter in Lagna,

please explain .

What is been implied by this mail, we'

would like to hear from you.

, jsdheendsa wrote:

>

> Friends,

> Have a chart where the person died in Ven-Sat at the age of 39

where Sat

> is in Lagna in Capricorn along with jupiter.chart attached.

> Jagmeet

>

November 13, 2007

my analysis was superificial yours wasn't. I had hurriedly replied without

giving greater thinking to it. so are you positive about leo ascendant being

able to control the other ascendants. I have never heard that one. of course

each chart is unique as well despite whatever ascendant predominates. I mean

is this a rule of thumb by which to go by or you saying that is a known fact

in deep astrology circles.

namaskar,

__________

Raja G. Gursahani

*: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

*: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

November 14, 2007

If I may intervene, I cannot take this as a rule of thumb. It is just

one point to give weightage when we look into Leo Asc horoscopes.

e.g., I know a specific horoscope of a Leo ascendant having 4 planets

in 12th house and 2 planets in the 6th house, having really tough

time managing/controlling own-self; forget about controlling others.

To my knowledge, the person is trying to supercede others, but in

vein. It all depends on the planetary combinations.

Satya S Kolachina

, " Raja Gursahani "

<rajagursahani wrote:

>

> my analysis was superificial yours wasn't. I had hurriedly replied

without

> giving greater thinking to it. so are you positive about leo

ascendant being

> able to control the other ascendants. I have never heard that one.

of course

> each chart is unique as well despite whatever ascendant

predominates. I mean

> is this a rule of thumb by which to go by or you saying that is a

known fact

> in deep astrology circles.

>

> namaskar,

>

> __________

>

> Raja G. Gursahani

> *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

> *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

>

November 14, 2007

DEAR

" they can " means they can control if other condition

indicates ofcourse.How mad person can control others,

it is understood. leo person can also be mad.

regards

Dhananjay

, " Satya Sai Kolachina "

<skolachi wrote:

>

> If I may intervene, I cannot take this as a rule of thumb. It is

just

> one point to give weightage when we look into Leo Asc horoscopes.

> e.g., I know a specific horoscope of a Leo ascendant having 4

planets

> in 12th house and 2 planets in the 6th house, having really tough

> time managing/controlling own-self; forget about controlling

others.

> To my knowledge, the person is trying to supercede others, but in

> vein. It all depends on the planetary combinations.

>

> Satya S Kolachina

>

> , " Raja Gursahani "

> <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> >

> > my analysis was superificial yours wasn't. I had hurriedly

replied

> without

> > giving greater thinking to it. so are you positive about leo

> ascendant being

> > able to control the other ascendants. I have never heard that

one.

> of course

> > each chart is unique as well despite whatever ascendant

> predominates. I mean

> > is this a rule of thumb by which to go by or you saying that is a

> known fact

> > in deep astrology circles.

> >

> > namaskar,

> >

> > __________

> >

> > Raja G. Gursahani

> > *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

> > *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

> >

November 14, 2007

yes satya, that makes total sense. of all my gurus that I have had in

astrology, the key point they made is no ascendant is better than the other

one in all their workings with astrology. of course some ascendants

theoretically are better, but in practice as you have mentioned this can't

be the case because two factors predominate 1) that planetary combinations

affect the ascendant as that is the point of strength for all the planets in

the chart 2) the dasha sequence is most crucial in understanding the natives

path in life and that is different

thanks for you additional support in the matter.

sincerely,

__________

Raja G. Gursahani

*: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

*: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

November 14, 2007

Shri Satyaji is not taking Your sides. He is

just mentioning the common sense which should have

been there, which was absent in your mail and

which prompted him to remind you.

, " Raja Gursahani "

<rajagursahani wrote:

>

> yes satya, that makes total sense. of all my gurus that I have had

in

> astrology, the key point they made is no ascendant is better than

the other

> one in all their workings with astrology. of course some ascendants

> theoretically are better, but in practice as you have mentioned

this can't

> be the case because two factors predominate 1) that planetary

combinations

> affect the ascendant as that is the point of strength for all the

planets in

> the chart 2) the dasha sequence is most crucial in understanding

the natives

> path in life and that is different

>

> thanks for you additional support in the matter.

>

> sincerely,

>

> __________

>

> Raja G. Gursahani

> *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

> *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

>

November 15, 2007

Dear Sri Dhananjay,

1. I did not say the person I was talking about was mad. The person

has a challenge in personal life; thats it. Every one having

challenges in personal life is not mad. Again based on something I

mentioned superficial, you seem to be making here an assumption.

2. If other conditions indicate, any ascendant can be good with

respect to control, for that matter; not necessarily leo only. e.g.,

Late Indian Prime Minister Smt Indira Gandhi had Cancer attendant,

and how much power, authority, and control she exercised, every one

knows. If you just take the ascendant characteristics, Cancer

ascendant should not be appropraite for her, since Cancer ascendants

are supposed to be more soft-natured due to watery sign, and also

more timid; at least with respect to her Public life, one cannot

easily agree of Smt Indira Gandhi's characteristics to be of

Cancer's.

3. Every ascendant has specific characteristics, no doubt, due to

the lordship given to the specific planet, and due to the

characteristics of the sign itself, along with several other

factors. But, the total disposition of the horoscope is to be

examined, not giving too much importance to just the ascendant, or

for that matter, any single factor.

4. I think with Leo ascendant, instead of using the word 'Can

Control', it would be more appropriate, if we say that 'they try to

show authority over people', and if other conditions do not

cooperrate, they miserably fail in that attempt to show authority,

and hence will be left with frustration.

Best regards,

Satya Sai Kolachina

, " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote:

>

> DEAR

> " they can " means they can control if other condition

> indicates ofcourse.How mad person can control others,

> it is understood. leo person can also be mad.

>

> regards

> Dhananjay

>

> , " Satya Sai Kolachina "

> <skolachi@> wrote:

> >

> > If I may intervene, I cannot take this as a rule of thumb. It is

> just

> > one point to give weightage when we look into Leo Asc

horoscopes.

> > e.g., I know a specific horoscope of a Leo ascendant having 4

> planets

> > in 12th house and 2 planets in the 6th house, having really

tough

> > time managing/controlling own-self; forget about controlling

> others.

> > To my knowledge, the person is trying to supercede others, but

in

> > vein. It all depends on the planetary combinations.

> >

> > Satya S Kolachina

> >

> > , " Raja Gursahani "

> > <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > my analysis was superificial yours wasn't. I had hurriedly

> replied

> > without

> > > giving greater thinking to it. so are you positive about leo

> > ascendant being

> > > able to control the other ascendants. I have never heard that

> one.

> > of course

> > > each chart is unique as well despite whatever ascendant

> > predominates. I mean

> > > is this a rule of thumb by which to go by or you saying that

is a

> > known fact

> > > in deep astrology circles.

> > >

> > > namaskar,

> > >

> > > __________

> > >

> > > Raja G. Gursahani

> > > *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

> > > *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

> > >

November 16, 2007

satya,

that was brilliantly said. not because we are dealing with recent incidents

to prove the point but from all the astrologers I have studied with, I have

asked such deep questions as is there a better ascendant than others. when

it comes to individuals there is no better ascendant than the other in

theory because the arrangement of planets, nakshatras, dasha sequence play a

critical role in the individuals development and path and is therefore the

crucial elements to why no ascendant can be better than the other. of course

each ascendant is privy to their natural disposition like you have mentioned

about cancer!!

thank you,

__________

Raja G. Gursahani

*: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

*: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

November 16, 2007

Raja,

But why this idiotic thought came in your mind

and you made presumption that

one ascendant can be better than another.How

can this be possible. This thinking

itself is bad. This is the most

foolish question to ask anyone. and you call

it deep questions. This thinking itself is sacrilege.

It is like saying that a daughter is better than a

son or vice versa. Or one planet is more worse than

another.

Please keep the Forum members away from such

type of deep thinking exposures and do not

corrupt the good people here.

Bhaskar.

, " Raja Gursahani "

<rajagursahani wrote:

>

> satya,

>

> that was brilliantly said. not because we are dealing with recent

incidents

> to prove the point but from all the astrologers I have studied

with, I have

> asked such deep questions as is there a better ascendant than

others. when

> it comes to individuals there is no better ascendant than the other

in

> theory because the arrangement of planets, nakshatras, dasha

sequence play a

> critical role in the individuals development and path and is

therefore the

> crucial elements to why no ascendant can be better than the other.

of course

> each ascendant is privy to their natural disposition like you have

mentioned

> about cancer!!

>

> thank you,

>

> __________

>

> Raja G. Gursahani

> *: 314.761.3134 (Clovis, CA)

> *: rajagursahani(atgmail.com)

>

November 16, 2007

Dear Raja

I agree with your punt of view, mostly because surely above everything astrology

teaches that we are all part of the same whole, and each individual contributes

his or her part.

If we say one chart asc is better than another are we saying that we should

indulge in ethnic cleansing????

To each according to his karma and his dharma and from each according to the

level of consciousness s/he is able to attain.

best wishes

M

-

Raja Gursahani

Friday, November 16, 2007 4:23 PM