Guest guest Posted June 27, 2000 Report Share Posted June 27, 2000 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Laksmi, Namaste. Could we have the brht data of the chart in mention? You can withhold the name. The vents narrated have to be confirmed not only form Rasi but from the D-charts as well. Yours, Gauranga das -----Eredeti üzenet----- Feladó: Lynne Kary <vedicstars Címzett: <varahamihira > Elküldve: 2000. június 27. 20:37 Tárgy: [sri Guru] Pravrajya Yoga > Hare Krsna > > Dear Jyotisha, > Here is my answer ,I hope the example chart isnt to confusing but since it contained so many features I decided to use it. > > Tutorial question 2.What is Pravrajya Yoga? > Pravrajya yogas are yogas for renunciation.There are a number of yogas for renunciation, but we are concerning ourselves with the one described in our lesson, > > " When there are benefic planets in the 6th from the Arudha lagna,this gives spiritualism,renunciation. " > In the example chart there are 3 benefics. > > " A malefic in the 6th from the Arudha lagna gives some material prosperity,success in battles. > In the example chart there is one malefic. > > Malefics AND benefics give mixed results and " the native is churned between the materialistic world and spiritualism.If the benefic planet is not only afflicted by a malefic,but is also weak by being in debility in Rasi or navamsa,a powerful Vipareeta yoga is generated. " > > I wasnt sure if you were expecting an example of simply a Pravrajya Yoga or of a Vipareeta and Pravraja yoga together, so I think I found one with both. > > Im just learning these concepts so I hope I got it right. > In the following example we have powerful Yogas for mant different things but we will concern ourselves with our interest from the tutorial. > EXAMPLE OF VIPAREETA AND PRAVRAJYA YOGA -with mixed results. > > Lagna-Libra > 5th house-Aq/Mars > 6th.-pis/Ketu > 7th.aires/Sat. > 8th.tau/7'Jup., 12'Sun, 22'Ven., 28'Moon. > 9th.gem/Merc. > 12th.virgo/Rahu > > Atmakaraka planet is Moon. Arudha lagna is Sag. > > Vipareeta Yoga-Lords of dusthanas residing in dusthanas. Here 3rd,6th,8th lords conjoined in dusthana 8th house with Ac.and 8th lord(Venus) in own sign. > > " The important condition for the fructification of this Raja Yoga is that the planets involved should either be weakened by placement in a dusthana. " > > Jup,Venus,And Moon are in a dusthana. > Jup. is weak in taurus and close to sun.It is in own sign pisces in 4th of Nav. > Moon is exal.but weak near Sun.2nd day waxing. > Sun is weak in taurus in Rasi, but Ex. in 5th inNav. > Venus is in cancer in 8th in Nav. > > In Addition:pg 1. " whereas malefic planets so placed(3rd and 6th from Arudha Lagna )that are weak or debilitated, will cause VIPAREETA PRAVRADJA YOGA and the native will become spiritual. > > We should check OTHER indications to show if these yogas will manifest for a spiritual person, renunciate and raja Yogas. > NOTE: That many of these yogas are repeated from Chandra/Solar Charts with lagna lord strong in own sign.With Moon Ex.also. > > In regards to pg 1.#3.Re: Sat as yogakaraka. > In Chandra and Solar Charts with Taurus in Lagna,Sat.-Yogakaraka is deb.in aires, in a dusthana the 12th-aspecting another dusthana the 6th. > > > IN RASI Chart: Sat.Neecha in aires from the 7th aspects AC. Also, in Nav.Sat is in lagna in sag.aspecting 7th and 10th houses. > Merc. 12th lord is Ex. in the 9th. > The 9th lord in the 9th. > Sat.4th/5th lord (Yogakaraka planet for libra), is aspecting Ac. and 9th house and lord. > In Nav.-9th lord Sun is exalt.in 5th., Jup is in own sign,Pis in 4th in Nav. > > There are many more things to comment on but for now I hope I have shown both a Vipareeta and Pravraja yogas with mixed influences. > P.S. > Incidently, this native is a disciple of H.D.Grace Srila Prabhupada.He spent many years serving him,lived as a renunciate for many years,traveled the world,opened temples.He still rises early, chants Hare Krsna and is steadfastly devoted to his spiritual master. > Srila Prabhupada gave him a position of leadership.This happened in his Jup.(GURU)maha dasa. > After Srila Prabhupada left his body,his reputation grew ,but was short lived as Sat.Maha Dasa began.It then was lost to a large extent.Sat.is not directly involved in Vip.yoga. > He married in Sat.and had nice devalike children. He maintains a seperate dwelling,cooks his own prasad,practices sense control and chants regularly.He owns few possessions,although he gets to live in nice surroundings with his Deities.He teaches others about spiritual life. > He has had a life of EXTREME highs and lows. > > I hope this was satisfactory and any comments would be welcome.......Laksmi (Lynne Kary) > > > _____________________ > > $1 million in prizes! 20 daily instant winners. > AltaVista Rewards: Click here to win! > http://shopping.altavista.com/e.sdc?e=3 > > _____________________ > > > ------ > Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. > http://click./1/4633/9/_/2192/_/962133323/ > ------ > > OM TAT SAT > Archive: varahamihira > Info: varahamihira/info.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Dear members Happy Deepawali It is written in Phal Deepeka that- if 4 planets are together in kendra or trikona and one of these planet is lord of 10th house then pravrajya is according to the nature of the lord of 10th house. Can anyone elaborate this point Is rahu or ketu can be included in this four planets. It is also written that if benific planets are present in this group then people praise such a person otherwise not.Explain. Regards Dhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Dear Dhananjay, My understanding is that Rahu and Ketu should not be counted. As an example, you can have a look at the chart of Shri Satya Sai Baba. He has 2 benefics and two malefics in lagna. I guess he has both followers as well as people who suspect him a lot. Regards, Krishna gupta089 <gupta089 wrote: Dear members Happy Deepawali It is written in Phal Deepeka that- if 4 planets are together in kendra or trikona and one of these planet is lord of 10th house then pravrajya is according to the nature of the lord of 10th house. Can anyone elaborate this point Is rahu or ketu can be included in this four planets. It is also written that if benific planets are present in this group then people praise such a person otherwise not.Explain. Regards Dhananjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Dear Dhananjay ji, Happy Deepawali. Rahu and Ketu are not to be included in Pravajya Yogas. regards, Bhaskar. , " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote: > > Dear members > Happy Deepawali > > It is written in Phal Deepeka that- > if 4 planets are together in kendra or trikona > and one of these planet is lord of 10th house > then pravrajya is according to the nature > of the lord of 10th house. > Can anyone elaborate this point > Is rahu or ketu can be included in this four > planets. > > It is also written that if benific planets > are present in this group then people praise > such a person otherwise not.Explain. > > Regards > Dhananjay > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Dear krishna ji Thanks sir for your response. Can u provide birth details of Shri Satya Sai Baba. regrds Dhananjay , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Dhananjay, > > My understanding is that Rahu and Ketu should not be counted. As an example, you can have a look at the chart of Shri Satya Sai Baba. He has 2 benefics and two malefics in lagna. I guess he has both followers as well as people who suspect him a lot. > > Regards, > Krishna > > gupta089 <gupta089 wrote: > Dear members > Happy Deepawali > > It is written in Phal Deepeka that- > if 4 planets are together in kendra or trikona > and one of these planet is lord of 10th house > then pravrajya is according to the nature > of the lord of 10th house. > Can anyone elaborate this point > Is rahu or ketu can be included in this four > planets. > > It is also written that if benific planets > are present in this group then people praise > such a person otherwise not.Explain. > > Regards > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Dear Dhananjay, If I can add, Rahu and Ketu to be excluded to see this Pravrujyaa yoga. Even if four+ planets are together, if one planet atleast is combust, then the yoga will nullify. In that case, he will respect those sanyasis which represent the strongest planet.Otherwise only he will reach this state. (If strongest planet is Kuja= sakya, red colour dress, respecting sakya religion, budha = jeevaka, he holds the view that prana is atma, red colour dress, but vedanti , gives discourses, Guru = pramahamsa, avadhuta like state, Chandra = saiva/vaishnava pandit, gives mantras to others, Sukra = charaka, learns hamsa yoga, Sani = nirgranthi, no difference in religion, no dharmaadharma, parama jnani,avadhuta,roams here and there, Surya=lives in jungles doing tapas). Same result if these planets have aspects of another planets or any planet loses war. If a planet loses war, first he may leave his house but later will lose this state. So in the exceptions, there wont be even signs of pravrujyaa. What causes pravrujya etc to see with these planets causing pravrujyaa.And there are other pravrujya yogas as well. Best regards, Saaji Bhaskaran UAE. , " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote: > > Dear krishna ji > Thanks sir for your response. > Can u provide birth details of > Shri Satya Sai Baba. > regrds > Dhananjay > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > My understanding is that Rahu and Ketu should not be counted. As > an example, you can have a look at the chart of Shri Satya Sai Baba. > He has 2 benefics and two malefics in lagna. I guess he has both > followers as well as people who suspect him a lot. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > gupta089 <gupta089@> wrote: > > Dear members > > Happy Deepawali > > > > It is written in Phal Deepeka that- > > if 4 planets are together in kendra or trikona > > and one of these planet is lord of 10th house > > then pravrajya is according to the nature > > of the lord of 10th house. > > Can anyone elaborate this point > > Is rahu or ketu can be included in this four > > planets. > > > > It is also written that if benific planets > > are present in this group then people praise > > such a person otherwise not.Explain. > > > > Regards > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Dear Dhananjay ji, The data I have is as follows: DOB: 23-Nov-1926 TOB: 6:26 am IST POB: Puttaparthi (77E45, 14N15) Regards, Krishna gupta089 <gupta089 wrote: Dear krishna ji Thanks sir for your response. Can u provide birth details of Shri Satya Sai Baba. regrds Dhananjay , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Dhananjay, > > My understanding is that Rahu and Ketu should not be counted. As an example, you can have a look at the chart of Shri Satya Sai Baba. He has 2 benefics and two malefics in lagna. I guess he has both followers as well as people who suspect him a lot. > > Regards, > Krishna > > gupta089 <gupta089 wrote: > Dear members > Happy Deepawali > > It is written in Phal Deepeka that- > if 4 planets are together in kendra or trikona > and one of these planet is lord of 10th house > then pravrajya is according to the nature > of the lord of 10th house. > Can anyone elaborate this point > Is rahu or ketu can be included in this four > planets. > > It is also written that if benific planets > are present in this group then people praise > such a person otherwise not.Explain. > > Regards > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Dear Dhananjay, If I can add, Rahu and Ketu to be excluded to see this Pravrujyaa yoga. Even if four+ planets are together, if one planet atleast is combust, then the yoga will nullify. In that case, he will respect the sanyasis which represent the strongest planet. Otherwise only he will reach this state. (If the strongest planet is Kuja = sakya, red colour dress, respecting sakya religion, Budha = jeevaka, he holds the view that prana is atma, red colour dress, vedanti, gives discourses, Guru = paramahamsa, avadhuta like state, Chandra = saiva/vaishnava pandit, gives mantras to others, Sukra = charaka, learn hamsa yoga, Sani = nirgranthi, no difference in religion, no dharmaadharma, parama jnani, avadhuta roams here and there, Surya = lives in jungles doing tapas) Same thing happens if these planets have aspects of another planets or any planet loses war. If a planet loses war, first he will leave his house but later lose this state. So in the exceptions there wont be even signs of pravrujya. What causes pravrujya etc to see with these planets causing pravrujya. And there are other pravrujya yogas also. Best regards, Saaji Bhaskaran UAE. , " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote: > > Dear krishna ji > Thanks sir for your response. > Can u provide birth details of > Shri Satya Sai Baba. > regrds > Dhananjay > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > My understanding is that Rahu and Ketu should not be counted. As > an example, you can have a look at the chart of Shri Satya Sai Baba. > He has 2 benefics and two malefics in lagna. I guess he has both > followers as well as people who suspect him a lot. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > gupta089 <gupta089@> wrote: > > Dear members > > Happy Deepawali > > > > It is written in Phal Deepeka that- > > if 4 planets are together in kendra or trikona > > and one of these planet is lord of 10th house > > then pravrajya is according to the nature > > of the lord of 10th house. > > Can anyone elaborate this point > > Is rahu or ketu can be included in this four > > planets. > > > > It is also written that if benific planets > > are present in this group then people praise > > such a person otherwise not.Explain. > > > > Regards > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Dear members, After reading my small note, one of the members send me a chart to comment. The data is 9.6.2002 13.55 76E12 10N31. I am writing to the group as the learned members may have a better reading of the chart. As you most people have, things are hectic at my end also. In my opinion, the chart has a partial pravrajya yoga. But pravrajya yoga means leaving the house. In this horoscope there is Ju, 7th lord and venus together so marriage might take place at appropriate time and its these planet's(also Mars) dasa operating in the first part of life. The planets are concentrated in the 9th/10th houses so the yoga is effective in the later part of the life, say Sani dasa. This sani means reason could be vairagya on himself, but in any case the earlier dasas also means learning. But my assumption is there is not a full fledged pravrajya yoga, so it means the person is inclined to the sanyasins representing Budha, Moon and Sani. Best regards, Saaji Bhaskaran UAE. , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik wrote: > > Dear Dhananjay, > > If I can add, Rahu and Ketu to be excluded to see this Pravrujyaa > yoga. Even if four+ planets are together, if one planet atleast is > combust, then the yoga will nullify. In that case, he will respect > the sanyasis which represent the strongest planet. Otherwise only he > will reach this state. (If the strongest planet is Kuja = sakya, red > colour dress, respecting sakya religion, Budha = jeevaka, he holds > the view that prana is atma, red colour dress, vedanti, gives > discourses, Guru = paramahamsa, avadhuta like state, Chandra = > saiva/vaishnava pandit, gives mantras to others, Sukra = charaka, > learn hamsa yoga, Sani = nirgranthi, no difference in religion, no > dharmaadharma, parama jnani, avadhuta roams here and there, Surya = > lives in jungles doing tapas) Same thing happens if these planets > have aspects of another planets or any planet loses war. If a planet > loses war, first he will leave his house but later lose this state. > So in the exceptions there wont be even signs of pravrujya. What > causes pravrujya etc to see with these planets causing pravrujya. > And there are other pravrujya yogas also. > > Best regards, > > Saaji Bhaskaran > UAE. > > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > Dear krishna ji > > Thanks sir for your response. > > Can u provide birth details of > > Shri Satya Sai Baba. > > regrds > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > > > My understanding is that Rahu and Ketu should not be counted. > As > > an example, you can have a look at the chart of Shri Satya Sai > Baba. > > He has 2 benefics and two malefics in lagna. I guess he has both > > followers as well as people who suspect him a lot. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > gupta089 <gupta089@> wrote: > > > Dear members > > > Happy Deepawali > > > > > > It is written in Phal Deepeka that- > > > if 4 planets are together in kendra or trikona > > > and one of these planet is lord of 10th house > > > then pravrajya is according to the nature > > > of the lord of 10th house. > > > Can anyone elaborate this point > > > Is rahu or ketu can be included in this four > > > planets. > > > > > > It is also written that if benific planets > > > are present in this group then people praise > > > such a person otherwise not.Explain. > > > > > > Regards > > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Dear Saaji U said that if 4+ planets are present ie 5 planets, and one is combust then yoga nullify.I think that sat. is combust in your horoscope then what is the affect. Please can u explain in more detail the characterstic of person of diff. planets.I am poor in sanskrit Further it is said in same book that if venus is strongest then person is sanyasi from out side & of bad from inside. pls explain. Regards Dhananjay , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik wrote: > > Dear members, > > After reading my small note, one of the members send me a chart to > comment. The data is 9.6.2002 13.55 76E12 10N31. I am writing to the > group as the learned members may have a better reading of the chart. > As you most people have, things are hectic at my end also. > > In my opinion, the chart has a partial pravrajya yoga. But pravrajya > yoga means leaving the house. In this horoscope there is Ju, 7th lord > and venus together so marriage might take place at appropriate time > and its these planet's(also Mars) dasa operating in the first part of > life. The planets are concentrated in the 9th/10th houses so the yoga > is effective in the later part of the life, say Sani dasa. This sani > means reason could be vairagya on himself, but in any case the > earlier dasas also means learning. But my assumption is there is not > a full fledged pravrajya yoga, so it means the person is inclined to > the sanyasins representing Budha, Moon and Sani. > > Best regards, > > Saaji Bhaskaran > UAE. > > > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > If I can add, Rahu and Ketu to be excluded to see this Pravrujyaa > > yoga. Even if four+ planets are together, if one planet atleast is > > combust, then the yoga will nullify. In that case, he will respect > > the sanyasis which represent the strongest planet. Otherwise only > he > > will reach this state. (If the strongest planet is Kuja = sakya, > red > > colour dress, respecting sakya religion, Budha = jeevaka, he holds > > the view that prana is atma, red colour dress, vedanti, gives > > discourses, Guru = paramahamsa, avadhuta like state, Chandra = > > saiva/vaishnava pandit, gives mantras to others, Sukra = charaka, > > learn hamsa yoga, Sani = nirgranthi, no difference in religion, no > > dharmaadharma, parama jnani, avadhuta roams here and there, Surya > = > > lives in jungles doing tapas) Same thing happens if these planets > > have aspects of another planets or any planet loses war. If a > planet > > loses war, first he will leave his house but later lose this state. > > So in the exceptions there wont be even signs of pravrujya. What > > causes pravrujya etc to see with these planets causing pravrujya. > > And there are other pravrujya yogas also. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > UAE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear krishna ji > > > Thanks sir for your response. > > > Can u provide birth details of > > > Shri Satya Sai Baba. > > > regrds > > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > > > > > My understanding is that Rahu and Ketu should not be counted. > > As > > > an example, you can have a look at the chart of Shri Satya Sai > > Baba. > > > He has 2 benefics and two malefics in lagna. I guess he has both > > > followers as well as people who suspect him a lot. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > gupta089 <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > Dear members > > > > Happy Deepawali > > > > > > > > It is written in Phal Deepeka that- > > > > if 4 planets are together in kendra or trikona > > > > and one of these planet is lord of 10th house > > > > then pravrajya is according to the nature > > > > of the lord of 10th house. > > > > Can anyone elaborate this point > > > > Is rahu or ketu can be included in this four > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > It is also written that if benific planets > > > > are present in this group then people praise > > > > such a person otherwise not.Explain. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 DEAR Saaji i do not understand what u said about asspect of another planet. what is the meaning of " loses war " regards dhananjay , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik wrote: > > Dear members, > > After reading my small note, one of the members send me a chart to > comment. The data is 9.6.2002 13.55 76E12 10N31. I am writing to the > group as the learned members may have a better reading of the chart. > As you most people have, things are hectic at my end also. > > In my opinion, the chart has a partial pravrajya yoga. But pravrajya > yoga means leaving the house. In this horoscope there is Ju, 7th lord > and venus together so marriage might take place at appropriate time > and its these planet's(also Mars) dasa operating in the first part of > life. The planets are concentrated in the 9th/10th houses so the yoga > is effective in the later part of the life, say Sani dasa. This sani > means reason could be vairagya on himself, but in any case the > earlier dasas also means learning. But my assumption is there is not > a full fledged pravrajya yoga, so it means the person is inclined to > the sanyasins representing Budha, Moon and Sani. > > Best regards, > > Saaji Bhaskaran > UAE. > > > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > If I can add, Rahu and Ketu to be excluded to see this Pravrujyaa > > yoga. Even if four+ planets are together, if one planet atleast is > > combust, then the yoga will nullify. In that case, he will respect > > the sanyasis which represent the strongest planet. Otherwise only > he > > will reach this state. (If the strongest planet is Kuja = sakya, > red > > colour dress, respecting sakya religion, Budha = jeevaka, he holds > > the view that prana is atma, red colour dress, vedanti, gives > > discourses, Guru = paramahamsa, avadhuta like state, Chandra = > > saiva/vaishnava pandit, gives mantras to others, Sukra = charaka, > > learn hamsa yoga, Sani = nirgranthi, no difference in religion, no > > dharmaadharma, parama jnani, avadhuta roams here and there, Surya > = > > lives in jungles doing tapas) Same thing happens if these planets > > have aspects of another planets or any planet loses war. If a > planet > > loses war, first he will leave his house but later lose this state. > > So in the exceptions there wont be even signs of pravrujya. What > > causes pravrujya etc to see with these planets causing pravrujya. > > And there are other pravrujya yogas also. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > UAE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear krishna ji > > > Thanks sir for your response. > > > Can u provide birth details of > > > Shri Satya Sai Baba. > > > regrds > > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > > > > > My understanding is that Rahu and Ketu should not be counted. > > As > > > an example, you can have a look at the chart of Shri Satya Sai > > Baba. > > > He has 2 benefics and two malefics in lagna. I guess he has both > > > followers as well as people who suspect him a lot. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > gupta089 <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > Dear members > > > > Happy Deepawali > > > > > > > > It is written in Phal Deepeka that- > > > > if 4 planets are together in kendra or trikona > > > > and one of these planet is lord of 10th house > > > > then pravrajya is according to the nature > > > > of the lord of 10th house. > > > > Can anyone elaborate this point > > > > Is rahu or ketu can be included in this four > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > It is also written that if benific planets > > > > are present in this group then people praise > > > > such a person otherwise not.Explain. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Dear Dhananjay, Basically, Saturn in the 9th supports pravrajya yoga, its another pravrajya yoga. Saturn being combust and the conditions do not support a pravrajya yoga to the effect of leaving house is my view. And saturn is weak here being in combustion. The characterisitic of sanyasis represented by planets I wrote already. Unfortunately I am also weak in sanskrit. But if u want me to expand this, I might do it later. Abt venus being strongest. Until and unless venus is afflicted things are alright. Best regards, Saaji Bhaskaran , " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote: > > Dear Saaji > U said that if 4+ planets are present ie 5 planets, > and one is combust then yoga nullify.I think that > sat. is combust in your horoscope then what is the > affect. > Please can u explain in more detail the characterstic > of person of diff. planets.I am poor in sanskrit > Further it is said in same book that if venus is > strongest then person is sanyasi from out side & of > bad from inside. pls explain. > Regards > Dhananjay > > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik@> > wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > After reading my small note, one of the members send me a chart to > > comment. The data is 9.6.2002 13.55 76E12 10N31. I am writing to > the > > group as the learned members may have a better reading of the > chart. > > As you most people have, things are hectic at my end also. > > > > In my opinion, the chart has a partial pravrajya yoga. But > pravrajya > > yoga means leaving the house. In this horoscope there is Ju, 7th > lord > > and venus together so marriage might take place at appropriate time > > and its these planet's(also Mars) dasa operating in the first part > of > > life. The planets are concentrated in the 9th/10th houses so the > yoga > > is effective in the later part of the life, say Sani dasa. This > sani > > means reason could be vairagya on himself, but in any case the > > earlier dasas also means learning. But my assumption is there is > not > > a full fledged pravrajya yoga, so it means the person is inclined > to > > the sanyasins representing Budha, Moon and Sani. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > UAE. > > > > > > > > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > > > If I can add, Rahu and Ketu to be excluded to see this Pravrujyaa > > > yoga. Even if four+ planets are together, if one planet atleast > is > > > combust, then the yoga will nullify. In that case, he will > respect > > > the sanyasis which represent the strongest planet. Otherwise only > > he > > > will reach this state. (If the strongest planet is Kuja = sakya, > > red > > > colour dress, respecting sakya religion, Budha = jeevaka, he > holds > > > the view that prana is atma, red colour dress, vedanti, gives > > > discourses, Guru = paramahamsa, avadhuta like state, Chandra = > > > saiva/vaishnava pandit, gives mantras to others, Sukra = charaka, > > > learn hamsa yoga, Sani = nirgranthi, no difference in religion, > no > > > dharmaadharma, parama jnani, avadhuta roams here and there, > Surya > > = > > > lives in jungles doing tapas) Same thing happens if these > planets > > > have aspects of another planets or any planet loses war. If a > > planet > > > loses war, first he will leave his house but later lose this > state. > > > So in the exceptions there wont be even signs of pravrujya. What > > > causes pravrujya etc to see with these planets causing pravrujya. > > > And there are other pravrujya yogas also. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > UAE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear krishna ji > > > > Thanks sir for your response. > > > > Can u provide birth details of > > > > Shri Satya Sai Baba. > > > > regrds > > > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is that Rahu and Ketu should not be > counted. > > > As > > > > an example, you can have a look at the chart of Shri Satya Sai > > > Baba. > > > > He has 2 benefics and two malefics in lagna. I guess he has > both > > > > followers as well as people who suspect him a lot. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > gupta089 <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > > Dear members > > > > > Happy Deepawali > > > > > > > > > > It is written in Phal Deepeka that- > > > > > if 4 planets are together in kendra or trikona > > > > > and one of these planet is lord of 10th house > > > > > then pravrajya is according to the nature > > > > > of the lord of 10th house. > > > > > Can anyone elaborate this point > > > > > Is rahu or ketu can be included in this four > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > It is also written that if benific planets > > > > > are present in this group then people praise > > > > > such a person otherwise not.Explain. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Dear Dhananjay, Aspect = Planets looking to various houses from their positions, there are full and partial aspects. All planets look to 7th house from their position and there are special aspects. Planetary war = Occurs when two planets are closer in one degree. The one in the south loses the war but this is difficult to follow and *I consider* the planet first leaves the place wins the war. Plant losing the war loses strength. Best regards, Saaji Bhaskaran , " gupta089 " <gupta089 wrote: > > > DEAR Saaji > i do not understand what u said about asspect > of another planet. > what is the meaning of " loses war " > regards > dhananjay > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik@> > wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > After reading my small note, one of the members send me a chart to > > comment. The data is 9.6.2002 13.55 76E12 10N31. I am writing to > the > > group as the learned members may have a better reading of the > chart. > > As you most people have, things are hectic at my end also. > > > > In my opinion, the chart has a partial pravrajya yoga. But > pravrajya > > yoga means leaving the house. In this horoscope there is Ju, 7th > lord > > and venus together so marriage might take place at appropriate time > > and its these planet's(also Mars) dasa operating in the first part > of > > life. The planets are concentrated in the 9th/10th houses so the > yoga > > is effective in the later part of the life, say Sani dasa. This > sani > > means reason could be vairagya on himself, but in any case the > > earlier dasas also means learning. But my assumption is there is > not > > a full fledged pravrajya yoga, so it means the person is inclined > to > > the sanyasins representing Budha, Moon and Sani. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > UAE. > > > > > > > > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > > > If I can add, Rahu and Ketu to be excluded to see this Pravrujyaa > > > yoga. Even if four+ planets are together, if one planet atleast > is > > > combust, then the yoga will nullify. In that case, he will > respect > > > the sanyasis which represent the strongest planet. Otherwise only > > he > > > will reach this state. (If the strongest planet is Kuja = sakya, > > red > > > colour dress, respecting sakya religion, Budha = jeevaka, he > holds > > > the view that prana is atma, red colour dress, vedanti, gives > > > discourses, Guru = paramahamsa, avadhuta like state, Chandra = > > > saiva/vaishnava pandit, gives mantras to others, Sukra = charaka, > > > learn hamsa yoga, Sani = nirgranthi, no difference in religion, > no > > > dharmaadharma, parama jnani, avadhuta roams here and there, > Surya > > = > > > lives in jungles doing tapas) Same thing happens if these > planets > > > have aspects of another planets or any planet loses war. If a > > planet > > > loses war, first he will leave his house but later lose this > state. > > > So in the exceptions there wont be even signs of pravrujya. What > > > causes pravrujya etc to see with these planets causing pravrujya. > > > And there are other pravrujya yogas also. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > UAE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear krishna ji > > > > Thanks sir for your response. > > > > Can u provide birth details of > > > > Shri Satya Sai Baba. > > > > regrds > > > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is that Rahu and Ketu should not be > counted. > > > As > > > > an example, you can have a look at the chart of Shri Satya Sai > > > Baba. > > > > He has 2 benefics and two malefics in lagna. I guess he has > both > > > > followers as well as people who suspect him a lot. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > gupta089 <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > > Dear members > > > > > Happy Deepawali > > > > > > > > > > It is written in Phal Deepeka that- > > > > > if 4 planets are together in kendra or trikona > > > > > and one of these planet is lord of 10th house > > > > > then pravrajya is according to the nature > > > > > of the lord of 10th house. > > > > > Can anyone elaborate this point > > > > > Is rahu or ketu can be included in this four > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > It is also written that if benific planets > > > > > are present in this group then people praise > > > > > such a person otherwise not.Explain. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection > around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Thankyou verymuch Saaji I will wait for more elaboration from u on this topic Can any one provide horoscope of Ashoka the Great, he had taken sannayas in his life. Regards Dhananjay , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik wrote: > > Dear Dhananjay, > > Aspect = Planets looking to various houses from their positions, > there are full and partial aspects. All planets look to 7th house > from their position and there are special aspects. > Planetary war = Occurs when two planets are closer in one degree. The > one in the south loses the war but this is difficult to follow and *I > consider* the planet first leaves the place wins the war. Plant > losing the war loses strength. > > Best regards, > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > > > DEAR Saaji > > i do not understand what u said about asspect > > of another planet. > > what is the meaning of " loses war " > > regards > > dhananjay > > > > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > After reading my small note, one of the members send me a chart > to > > > comment. The data is 9.6.2002 13.55 76E12 10N31. I am writing to > > the > > > group as the learned members may have a better reading of the > > chart. > > > As you most people have, things are hectic at my end also. > > > > > > In my opinion, the chart has a partial pravrajya yoga. But > > pravrajya > > > yoga means leaving the house. In this horoscope there is Ju, 7th > > lord > > > and venus together so marriage might take place at appropriate > time > > > and its these planet's(also Mars) dasa operating in the first > part > > of > > > life. The planets are concentrated in the 9th/10th houses so the > > yoga > > > is effective in the later part of the life, say Sani dasa. This > > sani > > > means reason could be vairagya on himself, but in any case the > > > earlier dasas also means learning. But my assumption is there is > > not > > > a full fledged pravrajya yoga, so it means the person is inclined > > to > > > the sanyasins representing Budha, Moon and Sani. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > UAE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Saaji Bhaskaran " <saajik@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > > > > > If I can add, Rahu and Ketu to be excluded to see this > Pravrujyaa > > > > yoga. Even if four+ planets are together, if one planet atleast > > is > > > > combust, then the yoga will nullify. In that case, he will > > respect > > > > the sanyasis which represent the strongest planet. Otherwise > only > > > he > > > > will reach this state. (If the strongest planet is Kuja = > sakya, > > > red > > > > colour dress, respecting sakya religion, Budha = jeevaka, he > > holds > > > > the view that prana is atma, red colour dress, vedanti, gives > > > > discourses, Guru = paramahamsa, avadhuta like state, Chandra = > > > > saiva/vaishnava pandit, gives mantras to others, Sukra = > charaka, > > > > learn hamsa yoga, Sani = nirgranthi, no difference in religion, > > no > > > > dharmaadharma, parama jnani, avadhuta roams here and there, > > Surya > > > = > > > > lives in jungles doing tapas) Same thing happens if these > > planets > > > > have aspects of another planets or any planet loses war. If a > > > planet > > > > loses war, first he will leave his house but later lose this > > state. > > > > So in the exceptions there wont be even signs of pravrujya. > What > > > > causes pravrujya etc to see with these planets causing > pravrujya. > > > > And there are other pravrujya yogas also. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Saaji Bhaskaran > > > > UAE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gupta089 " <gupta089@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear krishna ji > > > > > Thanks sir for your response. > > > > > Can u provide birth details of > > > > > Shri Satya Sai Baba. > > > > > regrds > > > > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dhananjay, > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is that Rahu and Ketu should not be > > counted. > > > > As > > > > > an example, you can have a look at the chart of Shri Satya > Sai > > > > Baba. > > > > > He has 2 benefics and two malefics in lagna. I guess he has > > both > > > > > followers as well as people who suspect him a lot. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > gupta089 <gupta089@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear members > > > > > > Happy Deepawali > > > > > > > > > > > > It is written in Phal Deepeka that- > > > > > > if 4 planets are together in kendra or trikona > > > > > > and one of these planet is lord of 10th house > > > > > > then pravrajya is according to the nature > > > > > > of the lord of 10th house. > > > > > > Can anyone elaborate this point > > > > > > Is rahu or ketu can be included in this four > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is also written that if benific planets > > > > > > are present in this group then people praise > > > > > > such a person otherwise not.Explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Dhananjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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