VEDIC ASTROLOGY DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar Sharma - Saavana year

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr Sharma,

 

It appears I have misread your book. The quotes have to do with Narada

Samhita and not Parashara's BPHS. I am very sorry for the mistake!

 

--

Thank you and best regards

François

[Guest guest]

Dear Francois,

 

Sadly, Chandrashekhar is no longer with this list.

A great loss for myself, and I am sure many others. Best wishes

M

-

Francois Carriere

Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:08 AM

VEDIC ASTROLOGY DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar Sharma -

Saavana year

 

 

Hello everyone,

 

This question is rather intended for Mr Chandrashekhar Sharma if he

wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate everybody's answer.

 

In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is stated that we

must use saavana year for dasha calculation, refering to Parashara's

BPHS:

 

«Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana, chaandra, nakshatra

and guru are the 9 types (of months and years) [...] Out of these 9

types, five are in use and they are used for different purpose [...]

Saavana month/year is to be accepted for prediction of the writing of

Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth (literally, foetus of a

woman)».

 

Is it possible to have the exact reference, chapter and verse, please?

 

It has been a controversy among French jyotishi (at least!) and I was

a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I read this passage of

Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

 

Many thanks!

 

--

Best regards,

François

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Marg,

 

are you the moderator of the list? where r u from please?

 

KP

 

 

On 11/18/07, Marg <margie9 wrote:

>

> Dear Francois,

>

> Sadly, Chandrashekhar is no longer with this list.

> A great loss for myself, and I am sure many others. Best wishes

> M

> -

> Francois Carriere

> <%40>

> Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:08 AM

> VEDIC ASTROLOGY DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar

> Sharma - Saavana year

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> This question is rather intended for Mr Chandrashekhar Sharma if he

> wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate everybody's answer.

>

> In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is stated that we

> must use saavana year for dasha calculation, refering to Parashara's

> BPHS:

>

> «Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana, chaandra, nakshatra

> and guru are the 9 types (of months and years) [...] Out of these 9

> types, five are in use and they are used for different purpose [...]

> Saavana month/year is to be accepted for prediction of the writing of

> Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth (literally, foetus of a

> woman)».

>

> Is it possible to have the exact reference, chapter and verse, please?

>

> It has been a controversy among French jyotishi (at least!) and I was

> a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I read this passage of

> Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

>

> Many thanks!

>

> --

> Best regards,

> François

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Francois,

 

There is nothing sad about it.

He must be occupied somewhere else, is what

I make of it. And if necessary one can contact

him on his e mail. And I am sure that he is

pretty aware of the activities of the Forum

and keepging himself abreast of the same.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Marg " <margie9 wrote:

>

> Dear Francois,

>

> Sadly, Chandrashekhar is no longer with this list.

> A great loss for myself, and I am sure many others. Best wishes

> M

> -

> Francois Carriere

>

> Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:08 AM

> VEDIC ASTROLOGY DEMYSTIFIED -

Chandrashekhar Sharma - Saavana year

>

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> This question is rather intended for Mr Chandrashekhar Sharma if

he

> wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate everybody's answer.

>

> In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is stated that we

> must use saavana year for dasha calculation, refering to

Parashara's

> BPHS:

>

> «Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana, chaandra,

nakshatra

> and guru are the 9 types (of months and years) [...] Out of these

9

> types, five are in use and they are used for different purpose

[...]

> Saavana month/year is to be accepted for prediction of the

writing of

> Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth (literally, foetus of

a

> woman)».

>

> Is it possible to have the exact reference, chapter and verse,

please?

>

> It has been a controversy among French jyotishi (at least!) and I

was

> a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I read this

passage of

> Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

>

> Many thanks!

>

> --

> Best regards,

> François

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kishore,

 

Thanks for your last mail, please reply if and when you are ready, nice to

exchange a few ideas on the topic you posted, thanks.

Raj Rao is the moderator of the list as far as I recall.

very best wishes

M

 

 

 

-

kishore patnaik

Sunday, November 18, 2007 1:46 PM

Re: VEDIC ASTROLOGY DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar

Sharma - Saavana year

 

 

Marg,

 

are you the moderator of the list? where r u from please?

 

KP

 

On 11/18/07, Marg <margie9 wrote:

>

> Dear Francois,

>

> Sadly, Chandrashekhar is no longer with this list.

> A great loss for myself, and I am sure many others. Best wishes

> M

> -

> Francois Carriere

> <%40>

> Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:08 AM

> VEDIC ASTROLOGY DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar

> Sharma - Saavana year

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> This question is rather intended for Mr Chandrashekhar Sharma if he

> wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate everybody's answer.

>

> In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is stated that we

> must use saavana year for dasha calculation, refering to Parashara's

> BPHS:

>

> «Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana, chaandra, nakshatra

> and guru are the 9 types (of months and years) [...] Out of these 9

> types, five are in use and they are used for different purpose [...]

> Saavana month/year is to be accepted for prediction of the writing of

> Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth (literally, foetus of a

> woman)».

>

> Is it possible to have the exact reference, chapter and verse, please?

>

> It has been a controversy among French jyotishi (at least!) and I was

> a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I read this passage of

> Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

>

> Many thanks!

>

> --

> Best regards,

> François

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Francois,

 

I am afraid the Shaloka is from Narad Sanhita and another is Balbodh jyotish

, Please wait I may be able to write what exactly it says , In the mean time

any learned in Sanskrit give you more information than I can.

 

With Best Wishes,

 

Inder Jit Sahni

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Marg

Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:50 PM

 

Re: VEDIC ASTROLOGY DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar

Sharma - Saavana year

 

 

 

Dear Francois,

 

Sadly, Chandrashekhar is no longer with this list.

A great loss for myself, and I am sure many others. Best wishes

M

-

Francois Carriere

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" %40 "

Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:08 AM

VEDIC ASTROLOGY DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar Sharma

- Saavana year

 

Hello everyone,

 

This question is rather intended for Mr Chandrashekhar Sharma if he

wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate everybody's answer.

 

In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is stated that we

must use saavana year for dasha calculation, refering to Parashara's

BPHS:

 

«Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana, chaandra, nakshatra

and guru are the 9 types (of months and years) [...] Out of these 9

types, five are in use and they are used for different purpose [...]

Saavana month/year is to be accepted for prediction of the writing of

Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth (literally, foetus of a

woman)».

 

Is it possible to have the exact reference, chapter and verse, please?

 

It has been a controversy among French jyotishi (at least!) and I was

a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I read this passage of

Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

 

Many thanks!

 

--

Best regards,

François

 

 

[Guest guest]

Marg,

 

We know the circumsatnces that led Chadrashekharji to

leave the group. It is most unfortunate. Unfortunately

not much has changed on the list for him to return. A

sad loss to the list indeed.

 

Satish

 

--- Marg <margie9 wrote:

 

> Dear Francois,

>

> Sadly, Chandrashekhar is no longer with this list.

> A great loss for myself, and I am sure many others.

> Best wishes

> M

> -

> Francois Carriere

>

> Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:08 AM

> VEDIC ASTROLOGY

> DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar Sharma - Saavana year

>

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> This question is rather intended for Mr

> Chandrashekhar Sharma if he

> wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate

> everybody's answer.

>

> In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is

> stated that we

> must use saavana year for dasha calculation,

> refering to Parashara's

> BPHS:

>

> «Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana,

> chaandra, nakshatra

> and guru are the 9 types (of months and years)

> [...] Out of these 9

> types, five are in use and they are used for

> different purpose [...]

> Saavana month/year is to be accepted for

> prediction of the writing of

> Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth

> (literally, foetus of a

> woman)».

>

> Is it possible to have the exact reference,

> chapter and verse, please?

>

> It has been a controversy among French jyotishi

> (at least!) and I was

> a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I

> read this passage of

> Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

>

> Many thanks!

>

> --

> Best regards,

> François

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

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Satish-ji

 

Indeed the absues, foul language used by some gutter mouths of this

list made Sri Chandrasekar leave. Unfortunately, these people

continue to put double face. As you may recall earlier KN Rao -ji

also left the group due to another batch of people who repeatedly

bothered him.

 

 

, SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Marg,

>

> We know the circumsatnces that led Chadrashekharji to

> leave the group. It is most unfortunate. Unfortunately

> not much has changed on the list for him to return. A

> sad loss to the list indeed.

>

> Satish

>

> --- Marg <margie9 wrote:

>

> > Dear Francois,

> >

> > Sadly, Chandrashekhar is no longer with this list.

> > A great loss for myself, and I am sure many others.

> > Best wishes

> > M

> > -

> > Francois Carriere

> >

> > Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:08 AM

> > VEDIC ASTROLOGY

> > DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar Sharma - Saavana year

> >

> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > This question is rather intended for Mr

> > Chandrashekhar Sharma if he

> > wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate

> > everybody's answer.

> >

> > In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is

> > stated that we

> > must use saavana year for dasha calculation,

> > refering to Parashara's

> > BPHS:

> >

> > «Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana,

> > chaandra, nakshatra

> > and guru are the 9 types (of months and years)

> > [...] Out of these 9

> > types, five are in use and they are used for

> > different purpose [...]

> > Saavana month/year is to be accepted for

> > prediction of the writing of

> > Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth

> > (literally, foetus of a

> > woman)».

> >

> > Is it possible to have the exact reference,

> > chapter and verse, please?

> >

> > It has been a controversy among French jyotishi

> > (at least!) and I was

> > a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I

> > read this passage of

> > Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

> >

> > Many thanks!

> >

> > --

> > Best regards,

> > François

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Dear Group,

 

Chandrashekhar Ji is like my guru, i can request him to join this

group back. Mostly, I remain in touch with him.

 

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

, " M. Sharma " <nakshatras

wrote:

>

> Satish-ji

>

> Indeed the absues, foul language used by some gutter mouths of this

> list made Sri Chandrasekar leave. Unfortunately, these people

> continue to put double face. As you may recall earlier KN Rao -ji

> also left the group due to another batch of people who repeatedly

> bothered him.

>

>

> , SPK <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> >

> > Marg,

> >

> > We know the circumsatnces that led Chadrashekharji to

> > leave the group. It is most unfortunate. Unfortunately

> > not much has changed on the list for him to return. A

> > sad loss to the list indeed.

> >

> > Satish

> >

> > --- Marg <margie9@> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Francois,

> > >

> > > Sadly, Chandrashekhar is no longer with this list.

> > > A great loss for myself, and I am sure many others.

> > > Best wishes

> > > M

> > > -

> > > Francois Carriere

> > >

> > > Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:08 AM

> > > VEDIC ASTROLOGY

> > > DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar Sharma - Saavana year

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello everyone,

> > >

> > > This question is rather intended for Mr

> > > Chandrashekhar Sharma if he

> > > wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate

> > > everybody's answer.

> > >

> > > In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is

> > > stated that we

> > > must use saavana year for dasha calculation,

> > > refering to Parashara's

> > > BPHS:

> > >

> > > «Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana,

> > > chaandra, nakshatra

> > > and guru are the 9 types (of months and years)

> > > [...] Out of these 9

> > > types, five are in use and they are used for

> > > different purpose [...]

> > > Saavana month/year is to be accepted for

> > > prediction of the writing of

> > > Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth

> > > (literally, foetus of a

> > > woman)».

> > >

> > > Is it possible to have the exact reference,

> > > chapter and verse, please?

> > >

> > > It has been a controversy among French jyotishi

> > > (at least!) and I was

> > > a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I

> > > read this passage of

> > > Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

> > >

> > > Many thanks!

> > >

> > > --

> > > Best regards,

> > > François

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Hi Satish

Sad that we had to lose him and Finn I think.

best wishes

M

-

SPK

Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:50 PM

Re: VEDIC ASTROLOGY DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar

Sharma - Saavana year

 

 

Marg,

 

We know the circumsatnces that led Chadrashekharji to

leave the group. It is most unfortunate. Unfortunately

not much has changed on the list for him to return. A

sad loss to the list indeed.

 

Satish

 

--- Marg <margie9 wrote:

 

> Dear Francois,

>

> Sadly, Chandrashekhar is no longer with this list.

> A great loss for myself, and I am sure many others.

> Best wishes

> M

> -

> Francois Carriere

>

> Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:08 AM

> VEDIC ASTROLOGY

> DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar Sharma - Saavana year

>

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> This question is rather intended for Mr

> Chandrashekhar Sharma if he

> wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate

> everybody's answer.

>

> In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is

> stated that we

> must use saavana year for dasha calculation,

> refering to Parashara's

> BPHS:

>

> «Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana,

> chaandra, nakshatra

> and guru are the 9 types (of months and years)

> [...] Out of these 9

> types, five are in use and they are used for

> different purpose [...]

> Saavana month/year is to be accepted for

> prediction of the writing of

> Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth

> (literally, foetus of a

> woman)».

>

> Is it possible to have the exact reference,

> chapter and verse, please?

>

> It has been a controversy among French jyotishi

> (at least!) and I was

> a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I

> read this passage of

> Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

>

> Many thanks!

>

> --

> Best regards,

> François

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

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[Guest guest]

Namaste Francois

 

Any able writer or a teacher will never neglect knowledge-seekers. Why don't

you write to Sri Chandrashekhar directly? His email id is

chandrashekhar46

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

 

On Nov 17, 2007 1:38 PM, Francois Carriere <fc21063 wrote:

 

> Hello everyone,

>

> This question is rather intended for Mr Chandrashekhar Sharma if he

> wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate everybody's answer.

>

> In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is stated that we

> must use saavana year for dasha calculation, refering to Parashara's

> BPHS:

>

> «Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana, chaandra, nakshatra

> and guru are the 9 types (of months and years) [...] Out of these 9

> types, five are in use and they are used for different purpose [...]

> Saavana month/year is to be accepted for prediction of the writing of

> Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth (literally, foetus of a

> woman)».

>

> Is it possible to have the exact reference, chapter and verse, please?

>

> It has been a controversy among French jyotishi (at least!) and I was

> a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I read this passage of

> Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

>

> Many thanks!

>

> --

> Best regards,

> François

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Namaste Manjunathji

 

There should be no reason for anyone to leave this list. Differences apart

the list is an exchange of ideas and not exchange of volleys of abuses. If

Sri Bhaskar or Sri Raja Gurusahani and others feel they can provoke each

other or abuse each other and make a public display of it, it is unwanted by

the list. All personal hatred should be left to personal emails. Why is

group being subjected to it? If anyone has any hatred towards the other,

kindly write an email directly to him/her.

 

I have read the archives of the group and know whom you refer responsible

for Sri K. N. Raoji's departure. The quality of discussions since then have

declined in my view. They have further declined by less participation by Sri

Chandrashekhar Sharma. When I say this, it does not mean I agree to

everything what Sri Chandrashekhar had to say, but the mature presence he

commanded and the ideas he shared, did give a new perspective on things.

This is collective research.

 

If people were to go the archives and see how Sri K. N. Raoji would guide a

discussion on a particular focused topic. I may be missing a few names here

and please pardon me for it. I really wish these people would return.

 

And I also pray that those who have provoked, and those who have abused,

will stop doing so and take personal things out in a personal way. Do not

involve the group. I hope our moderator can enforce this.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

 

On Nov 19, 2007 12:33 AM, M. Sharma <nakshatras wrote:

 

> Satish-ji

>

> Indeed the absues, foul language used by some gutter mouths of this

> list made Sri Chandrasekar leave. Unfortunately, these people

> continue to put double face. As you may recall earlier KN Rao -ji

> also left the group due to another batch of people who repeatedly

> bothered him.

>

>

> <%40>, SPK

> <aquaris_rising wrote:

> >

> > Marg,

> >

> > We know the circumsatnces that led Chadrashekharji to

> > leave the group. It is most unfortunate. Unfortunately

> > not much has changed on the list for him to return. A

> > sad loss to the list indeed.

> >

> > Satish

> >

> > --- Marg <margie9 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Francois,

> > >

> > > Sadly, Chandrashekhar is no longer with this list.

> > > A great loss for myself, and I am sure many others.

> > > Best wishes

> > > M

> > > -

> > > Francois Carriere

> > > <%40>

> > > Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:08 AM

> > > VEDIC ASTROLOGY

> > > DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar Sharma - Saavana year

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello everyone,

> > >

> > > This question is rather intended for Mr

> > > Chandrashekhar Sharma if he

> > > wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate

> > > everybody's answer.

> > >

> > > In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is

> > > stated that we

> > > must use saavana year for dasha calculation,

> > > refering to Parashara's

> > > BPHS:

> > >

> > > «Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana,

> > > chaandra, nakshatra

> > > and guru are the 9 types (of months and years)

> > > [...] Out of these 9

> > > types, five are in use and they are used for

> > > different purpose [...]

> > > Saavana month/year is to be accepted for

> > > prediction of the writing of

> > > Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth

> > > (literally, foetus of a

> > > woman)».

> > >

> > > Is it possible to have the exact reference,

> > > chapter and verse, please?

> > >

> > > It has been a controversy among French jyotishi

> > > (at least!) and I was

> > > a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I

> > > read this passage of

> > > Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

> > >

> > > Many thanks!

> > >

> > > --

> > > Best regards,

> > > François

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ________

> _______________

> > Be a better pen pal.

> > Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how.

> http://overview.mail./

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Dear Dri Bharatji,

 

Namaste,

 

// If Sri Bhaskar or Sri Raja Gurusahani and others feel they can

provoke each other or abuse each other and make a public display of

it, it is unwanted by the list. All personal hatred should be left to

personal emails. //

 

Why was above advise missing to the provocators

when provocations are nade unnecessarily in public ?

 

Please refrain from derogatory references to my name. You

have no right to equate me with the likes of Raja Grurshani.

 

I have on the thousands of postings written

by me. First Prove in how many postings have I started

or begun abusing first or voluntarily from my side.

The number of postings you find, and the number of

days I shall spend washing clothes in your house.

 

You will not find a single posting, I assure You.

 

Because I am very clear in my ethics.

I never start all

this rot from my side. Henceforth do not use

my name for spoiling it please. You must have

the courage to talk to people like Raja on face, if you'

cannot do that, then do not use my name as as a ladder

to put forth your views of a good well wisher of

the Forum. No fame can be achieved by stepping on

a innocent person or tying him to the Cross and

forging ahead, no progress would be achieved..

in any motives whatsoever.

 

kind regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, " Bharat - Hindu Astrology "

<astrologyhindu wrote:

>

> Namaste Manjunathji

>

> There should be no reason for anyone to leave this list.

Differences apart

> the list is an exchange of ideas and not exchange of volleys of

abuses. If

> Sri Bhaskar or Sri Raja Gurusahani and others feel they can provoke

each

> other or abuse each other and make a public display of it, it is

unwanted by

> the list. All personal hatred should be left to personal emails.

Why is

> group being subjected to it? If anyone has any hatred towards the

other,

> kindly write an email directly to him/her.

>

> I have read the archives of the group and know whom you refer

responsible

> for Sri K. N. Raoji's departure. The quality of discussions since

then have

> declined in my view. They have further declined by less

participation by Sri

> Chandrashekhar Sharma. When I say this, it does not mean I agree to

> everything what Sri Chandrashekhar had to say, but the mature

presence he

> commanded and the ideas he shared, did give a new perspective on

things.

> This is collective research.

>

> If people were to go the archives and see how Sri K. N. Raoji would

guide a

> discussion on a particular focused topic. I may be missing a few

names here

> and please pardon me for it. I really wish these people would

return.

>

> And I also pray that those who have provoked, and those who have

abused,

> will stop doing so and take personal things out in a personal way.

Do not

> involve the group. I hope our moderator can enforce this.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

> On Nov 19, 2007 12:33 AM, M. Sharma <nakshatras wrote:

>

> > Satish-ji

> >

> > Indeed the absues, foul language used by some gutter mouths of

this

> > list made Sri Chandrasekar leave. Unfortunately, these people

> > continue to put double face. As you may recall earlier KN Rao -ji

> > also left the group due to another batch of people who repeatedly

> > bothered him.

> >

> >

> > <%

40>, SPK

> > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Marg,

> > >

> > > We know the circumsatnces that led Chadrashekharji to

> > > leave the group. It is most unfortunate. Unfortunately

> > > not much has changed on the list for him to return. A

> > > sad loss to the list indeed.

> > >

> > > Satish

> > >

> > > --- Marg <margie9@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Francois,

> > > >

> > > > Sadly, Chandrashekhar is no longer with this list.

> > > > A great loss for myself, and I am sure many others.

> > > > Best wishes

> > > > M

> > > > -

> > > > Francois Carriere

> > > > <%

40>

> > > > Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:08 AM

> > > > VEDIC ASTROLOGY

> > > > DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar Sharma - Saavana year

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello everyone,

> > > >

> > > > This question is rather intended for Mr

> > > > Chandrashekhar Sharma if he

> > > > wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate

> > > > everybody's answer.

> > > >

> > > > In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is

> > > > stated that we

> > > > must use saavana year for dasha calculation,

> > > > refering to Parashara's

> > > > BPHS:

> > > >

> > > > «Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana,

> > > > chaandra, nakshatra

> > > > and guru are the 9 types (of months and years)

> > > > [...] Out of these 9

> > > > types, five are in use and they are used for

> > > > different purpose [...]

> > > > Saavana month/year is to be accepted for

> > > > prediction of the writing of

> > > > Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth

> > > > (literally, foetus of a

> > > > woman)».

> > > >

> > > > Is it possible to have the exact reference,

> > > > chapter and verse, please?

> > > >

> > > > It has been a controversy among French jyotishi

> > > > (at least!) and I was

> > > > a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I

> > > > read this passage of

> > > > Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks!

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > François

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > ________

> > _______________

> > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how.

> > http://overview.mail./

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sri Bhaskar

 

If I did not write your name, you would have said " that people do not have

courage to write my name " . So I wrote your name. Plus I have publicly

advised, suggested and asked you to show refrain in the past. However,

though your astrological postings are of substance the personal messages of

anyone should be kept away from the list as a rule. This includes me too.

 

Yes I am well wisher of the forum and of its participants and that includes

you two.

 

Please deal someone who provokes you with firmness. Bring it to the notice

of the moderator through a personal email. You can abuse, fight, exchange

blows in a personal manner. What has group got to do with it?

 

Moreover, I know Sri Raja has provoked you again and again and he takes

great joy in doing so too, but, he still writes here and despite your abuses

and everything, not a single action has been taken against him. Cause many

feel you are in the wrong and you have time and again reacted very badly.

So, what is the end result? Did any of your actions help stop the tirade of

Sri Raja against you?

 

So it is best any such personal matters be taken out of the group. This is

my suggestion. I seek neither to spoil your name or anyone else's. I have

supported you when I felt you are right and have freedom to tell you

directly what I dislike.

 

Lastly, neither am I the moderator or the owner of the group, but, would

like this rule to be implemented.

 

Hope everyone has the courage to say yes to this rule.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

 

 

 

 

On Nov 20, 2007 4:14 PM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

 

> Dear Dri Bharatji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> // If Sri Bhaskar or Sri Raja Gurusahani and others feel they can

>

> provoke each other or abuse each other and make a public display of

> it, it is unwanted by the list. All personal hatred should be left to

> personal emails. //

>

> Why was above advise missing to the provocators

> when provocations are nade unnecessarily in public ?

>

> Please refrain from derogatory references to my name. You

> have no right to equate me with the likes of Raja Grurshani.

>

> I have on the thousands of postings written

> by me. First Prove in how many postings have I started

> or begun abusing first or voluntarily from my side.

> The number of postings you find, and the number of

> days I shall spend washing clothes in your house.

>

> You will not find a single posting, I assure You.

>

> Because I am very clear in my ethics.

> I never start all

> this rot from my side. Henceforth do not use

> my name for spoiling it please. You must have

> the courage to talk to people like Raja on face, if you'

> cannot do that, then do not use my name as as a ladder

> to put forth your views of a good well wisher of

> the Forum. No fame can be achieved by stepping on

> a innocent person or tying him to the Cross and

> forging ahead, no progress would be achieved..

> in any motives whatsoever.

>

> kind regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> <%40>,

> " Bharat - Hindu Astrology "

>

> <astrologyhindu wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Manjunathji

> >

> > There should be no reason for anyone to leave this list.

> Differences apart

> > the list is an exchange of ideas and not exchange of volleys of

> abuses. If

> > Sri Bhaskar or Sri Raja Gurusahani and others feel they can provoke

> each

> > other or abuse each other and make a public display of it, it is

> unwanted by

> > the list. All personal hatred should be left to personal emails.

> Why is

> > group being subjected to it? If anyone has any hatred towards the

> other,

> > kindly write an email directly to him/her.

> >

> > I have read the archives of the group and know whom you refer

> responsible

> > for Sri K. N. Raoji's departure. The quality of discussions since

> then have

> > declined in my view. They have further declined by less

> participation by Sri

> > Chandrashekhar Sharma. When I say this, it does not mean I agree to

> > everything what Sri Chandrashekhar had to say, but the mature

> presence he

> > commanded and the ideas he shared, did give a new perspective on

> things.

> > This is collective research.

> >

> > If people were to go the archives and see how Sri K. N. Raoji would

> guide a

> > discussion on a particular focused topic. I may be missing a few

> names here

> > and please pardon me for it. I really wish these people would

> return.

> >

> > And I also pray that those who have provoked, and those who have

> abused,

> > will stop doing so and take personal things out in a personal way.

> Do not

> > involve the group. I hope our moderator can enforce this.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> >

> >

> > On Nov 19, 2007 12:33 AM, M. Sharma <nakshatras wrote:

> >

> > > Satish-ji

> > >

> > > Indeed the absues, foul language used by some gutter mouths of

> this

> > > list made Sri Chandrasekar leave. Unfortunately, these people

> > > continue to put double face. As you may recall earlier KN Rao -ji

> > > also left the group due to another batch of people who repeatedly

> > > bothered him.

> > >

> > >

> > >

<%40><%

> 40>, SPK

> > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Marg,

> > > >

> > > > We know the circumsatnces that led Chadrashekharji to

> > > > leave the group. It is most unfortunate. Unfortunately

> > > > not much has changed on the list for him to return. A

> > > > sad loss to the list indeed.

> > > >

> > > > Satish

> > > >

> > > > --- Marg <margie9@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Francois,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sadly, Chandrashekhar is no longer with this list.

> > > > > A great loss for myself, and I am sure many others.

> > > > > Best wishes

> > > > > M

> > > > > -

> > > > > Francois Carriere

> > > > >

<%40><%

> 40>

> > > > > Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:08 AM

> > > > > VEDIC ASTROLOGY

> > > > > DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar Sharma - Saavana year

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello everyone,

> > > > >

> > > > > This question is rather intended for Mr

> > > > > Chandrashekhar Sharma if he

> > > > > wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate

> > > > > everybody's answer.

> > > > >

> > > > > In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is

> > > > > stated that we

> > > > > must use saavana year for dasha calculation,

> > > > > refering to Parashara's

> > > > > BPHS:

> > > > >

> > > > > «Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana,

> > > > > chaandra, nakshatra

> > > > > and guru are the 9 types (of months and years)

> > > > > [...] Out of these 9

> > > > > types, five are in use and they are used for

> > > > > different purpose [...]

> > > > > Saavana month/year is to be accepted for

> > > > > prediction of the writing of

> > > > > Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth

> > > > > (literally, foetus of a

> > > > > woman)».

> > > > >

> > > > > Is it possible to have the exact reference,

> > > > > chapter and verse, please?

> > > > >

> > > > > It has been a controversy among French jyotishi

> > > > > (at least!) and I was

> > > > > a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I

> > > > > read this passage of

> > > > > Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

> > > > >

> > > > > Many thanks!

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > François

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > > removed]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > ________

> > > _______________

> > > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > > Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how.

> > > http://overview.mail./

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sri Bharatji,

 

Yes this rule should be implemented, I am for it.

No personal references should be made whatsoever.

Actually its is a sad matter that we have to talk

about such rules being implemented. This should

be understoodamong a decent lot of people. But

this world is made of all sorts, and not being

face to face like in class rooms, where the

person can be reprimanded personally,here we can

all hope that people would follw this Line of

thinking. Since they dont, then rules have to be

made and implemented.

 

Thanks for coming out in clear.

 

Kind regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " Bharat - Hindu Astrology "

<astrologyhindu wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Bhaskar

>

> If I did not write your name, you would have said " that people do

not have

> courage to write my name " . So I wrote your name. Plus I have

publicly

> advised, suggested and asked you to show refrain in the past.

However,

> though your astrological postings are of substance the personal

messages of

> anyone should be kept away from the list as a rule. This includes

me too.

>

> Yes I am well wisher of the forum and of its participants and that

includes

> you two.

>

> Please deal someone who provokes you with firmness. Bring it to the

notice

> of the moderator through a personal email. You can abuse, fight,

exchange

> blows in a personal manner. What has group got to do with it?

>

> Moreover, I know Sri Raja has provoked you again and again and he

takes

> great joy in doing so too, but, he still writes here and despite

your abuses

> and everything, not a single action has been taken against him.

Cause many

> feel you are in the wrong and you have time and again reacted very

badly.

> So, what is the end result? Did any of your actions help stop the

tirade of

> Sri Raja against you?

>

> So it is best any such personal matters be taken out of the group.

This is

> my suggestion. I seek neither to spoil your name or anyone else's.

I have

> supported you when I felt you are right and have freedom to tell you

> directly what I dislike.

>

> Lastly, neither am I the moderator or the owner of the group, but,

would

> like this rule to be implemented.

>

> Hope everyone has the courage to say yes to this rule.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

>

>

> On Nov 20, 2007 4:14 PM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> > Dear Dri Bharatji,

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > // If Sri Bhaskar or Sri Raja Gurusahani and others feel they can

> >

> > provoke each other or abuse each other and make a public display

of

> > it, it is unwanted by the list. All personal hatred should be

left to

> > personal emails. //

> >

> > Why was above advise missing to the provocators

> > when provocations are nade unnecessarily in public ?

> >

> > Please refrain from derogatory references to my name. You

> > have no right to equate me with the likes of Raja Grurshani.

> >

> > I have on the thousands of postings written

> > by me. First Prove in how many postings have I started

> > or begun abusing first or voluntarily from my side.

> > The number of postings you find, and the number of

> > days I shall spend washing clothes in your house.

> >

> > You will not find a single posting, I assure You.

> >

> > Because I am very clear in my ethics.

> > I never start all

> > this rot from my side. Henceforth do not use

> > my name for spoiling it please. You must have

> > the courage to talk to people like Raja on face, if you'

> > cannot do that, then do not use my name as as a ladder

> > to put forth your views of a good well wisher of

> > the Forum. No fame can be achieved by stepping on

> > a innocent person or tying him to the Cross and

> > forging ahead, no progress would be achieved..

> > in any motives whatsoever.

> >

> > kind regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > <%

40>,

> > " Bharat - Hindu Astrology "

> >

> > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Manjunathji

> > >

> > > There should be no reason for anyone to leave this list.

> > Differences apart

> > > the list is an exchange of ideas and not exchange of volleys of

> > abuses. If

> > > Sri Bhaskar or Sri Raja Gurusahani and others feel they can

provoke

> > each

> > > other or abuse each other and make a public display of it, it is

> > unwanted by

> > > the list. All personal hatred should be left to personal emails.

> > Why is

> > > group being subjected to it? If anyone has any hatred towards

the

> > other,

> > > kindly write an email directly to him/her.

> > >

> > > I have read the archives of the group and know whom you refer

> > responsible

> > > for Sri K. N. Raoji's departure. The quality of discussions

since

> > then have

> > > declined in my view. They have further declined by less

> > participation by Sri

> > > Chandrashekhar Sharma. When I say this, it does not mean I

agree to

> > > everything what Sri Chandrashekhar had to say, but the mature

> > presence he

> > > commanded and the ideas he shared, did give a new perspective on

> > things.

> > > This is collective research.

> > >

> > > If people were to go the archives and see how Sri K. N. Raoji

would

> > guide a

> > > discussion on a particular focused topic. I may be missing a few

> > names here

> > > and please pardon me for it. I really wish these people would

> > return.

> > >

> > > And I also pray that those who have provoked, and those who have

> > abused,

> > > will stop doing so and take personal things out in a personal

way.

> > Do not

> > > involve the group. I hope our moderator can enforce this.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Nov 19, 2007 12:33 AM, M. Sharma <nakshatras@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Satish-ji

> > > >

> > > > Indeed the absues, foul language used by some gutter mouths of

> > this

> > > > list made Sri Chandrasekar leave. Unfortunately, these people

> > > > continue to put double face. As you may recall earlier KN

Rao -ji

> > > > also left the group due to another batch of people who

repeatedly

> > > > bothered him.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <%

40><%

> > 40>, SPK

> > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Marg,

> > > > >

> > > > > We know the circumsatnces that led Chadrashekharji to

> > > > > leave the group. It is most unfortunate. Unfortunately

> > > > > not much has changed on the list for him to return. A

> > > > > sad loss to the list indeed.

> > > > >

> > > > > Satish

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Marg <margie9@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Francois,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sadly, Chandrashekhar is no longer with this list.

> > > > > > A great loss for myself, and I am sure many others.

> > > > > > Best wishes

> > > > > > M

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Francois Carriere

> > > > > > <%

40><%

> > 40>

> > > > > > Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:08 AM

> > > > > > VEDIC ASTROLOGY

> > > > > > DEMYSTIFIED - Chandrashekhar Sharma - Saavana year

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello everyone,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This question is rather intended for Mr

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar Sharma if he

> > > > > > wish to answer it. However, I will appreciate

> > > > > > everybody's answer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In chapter XI, concerning Vimshottari dasha, it is

> > > > > > stated that we

> > > > > > must use saavana year for dasha calculation,

> > > > > > refering to Parashara's

> > > > > > BPHS:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > «Brahma, daiva, maanusha, pitrya, saur, saavana,

> > > > > > chaandra, nakshatra

> > > > > > and guru are the 9 types (of months and years)

> > > > > > [...] Out of these 9

> > > > > > types, five are in use and they are used for

> > > > > > different purpose [...]

> > > > > > Saavana month/year is to be accepted for

> > > > > > prediction of the writing of

> > > > > > Brahma (Jakata's bhagya/fortune) and birth

> > > > > > (literally, foetus of a

> > > > > > woman)».

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is it possible to have the exact reference,

> > > > > > chapter and verse, please?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It has been a controversy among French jyotishi

> > > > > > (at least!) and I was

> > > > > > a firm supporter of the 365, saura year, until I

> > > > > > read this passage of

> > > > > > Mr Sharma, to who I am now obliged.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > François

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > > > removed]

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > ________

> > > > _______________

> > > > > Be a better pen pal.

> > > > > Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how.

> > > > http://overview.mail./

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >