VijayDasa Pradeep : Basic concept to remove ur doubt - Treta Yuga and ''year''

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Mr. Pradeep,

 

The better way to remove doubts is to ask not to teach, What disturbed

to me was ur silence and appreciation to Srinadh by you, well, When i

was in 2nd year of my college, I had similar doubts like u are having,

that time I got answer to one of ur current doubts, as i was away from

the net and was busy in my hometown, i could not answer u, now i m back

to Noida, so writing a mail to you, you said -

 

" You should think why did sages say one day of God is One year for

us.One entity called Horse(An Year) at higher level has a ratio of 1:360

w.r to our level "

 

I dont know why u have used the term " God " , in the purans, it's

mentioned as the day of Lord Brahma, I recall a story of dwapar, it's

related to marriage of Krishna's elder brother - Balram or Baldaau. A

king visits lord brahma in the begining of the dwapara for a day and

when he comes back, dwapara was ending.

 

I got answer in theory of time's dilation, proposed by einsteen, i m

putting it here, as i got satisfied with the theory, I didn't explore it

much during my college period, but if u want, u can explore it more.

 

This means that time (and space) vary for frames of reference moving at

different velocities with respect to each other. The change in time is

called time dilation, where frames moving near the speed of light have

slow clocks.

 

 

 

 

 

* Likewise, space is shorten in in high velocity frames, which is

called Lorentz contraction

 

 

 

Space-Time Lab

<http://www.its.caltech.edu/~phys1/java/phys1/Einstein/Einstein.html>

 

* relativity leads to some strange consequences, such as the twin

paradox * however, all these predictions have been conferred

numerous times by experimentation

Time dilation leads to the famous Twins Paradox

<http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/twins_paradox.html> , which is

not a paradox but rather a simple fact of special relativity. Since

clocks run slower in frames of reference at high velocity, then one can

imagine a scenario were twins age at different rates when separated at

birth due to a trip to the stars.

It is important to note that all the predictions of special relativity,

length contraction, time dilation and the twin paradox, have been

confirmed by direct experiments, mostly using sub-atomic particles in

high energy accelerators. The effects of relativity are dramatic, but

only when speeds approach the speed of light. At normal velocities, the

changes to clocks and rulers are too small to be measured.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Mr.Lalit

>

> Kinly understand that i am not here for a concfrontation.

> The consumption of Payasam in differing quantities and the

> conception thereby is mentioned in Valmiki Ramayana.Thus it is not

> my view.

>

> Why four and why diff percentage was my question.But how do you

> assmue the rest -the words that you have used -your imaginations?

>

> Even when i had used McDonalds example,you were haste in arriving at

> conclusions.Please understand that there is a purpose behind the

> question and it is a seed for thought.

>

> Shree Ramchandra is Paratama Tattwa.Treta Yuga is level of

> consciousness.Perception of Time varies with Consciousness level.You

> should think why did sages say one day of God is One year for us.One

> entity called Horse(An Year) at higher level has a ratio of 1:360

> w.r to our level.

> Yugas have link with movement of Saptarshis.Rishyashringa do fall in

> the lineage of those.

>

> When my knowledge is limited i accept my limitations.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

>

> , " litsol " litsol@ wrote:

> >

> > Mr. Pradeep,

> >

> > who said this , you only -

> >

> > " the 4 sons of dasharatha were not conceived by consuming equal

> > amount of kheer given by Parajapati.Why four and why diff

> > percentages "

> >

> > see, ur posting.

> >

> > dont act as a great gentleman.

> >

> > ok. u r responsible for ur postings and i m showing u ur face in

> the

> > mirror.

> >

> > ~Lalit.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Lalitji,

> > >

> > > I had requested you 2 days ago too.

> > > You must not write the way You have been doing now.

> > > We knoew that You are a staunch Hindu. But " Josh "

> > > and " Hosh " together make a good mix.Any of the

> > > 2 without each other as company is not fruitful

> > > to put your point across. It is good to have Pradeepji

> > > in our company and we should not loose him now.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr.Lalit

> > > >

> > > > I dont understand what you are up to.

> > > > You are not understanding my questions.All these cheap words

> > which

> > > you

> > > > have used below regarding Lord Rama is totally at your own

> > > > responsibility.Never again dare to attribute on me what i have

> > not

> > > > said.Please be aware of this.

> > > >

> > > > Through these cheap words you are defaming Lord Shri Rama

> > > chandra.you

> > > > are trying to put words into my mouth to suit your interests.

> > > >

> > > > Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr. Pradeep,

> > > > >

> > > > > conception can happen even without sex, pls. check same in

> > > biology

> > > > > books, do u know last month only a chromosome was conceived

> in

> > > the

> > > > > Lab. in USA.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why u people are keeping ur mind closed, perhapse God wants

> > it,

> > > Do u

> > > > > mean, by giving kheer to queens means making dashrath

> > impotent.

> > > > >

> > > > > What is ur base to deny that Dashrath cant be ram's

> biological

> > > > > father, Where u see the reference that Dasharath was not

> going

> > to

> > > > > his queens, where it's written that he was doing a

> > brahmcharya ?

> > > > > what's ur reasoning behind defaming Sri Ram's family and

> > birth ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Think more,

> > > > >

> > > > > ~Lalit.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr.Lalit

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Perhaps you did not understand my stance.You took

> MCDonalds

> > etc

> > > in

> > > > > a

> > > > > > literal sense.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It means - planets can have similar positions during many

> > > instances

> > > > > > within the bigger frame called TIME.You should first zero

> in

> > to

> > > the

> > > > > > main time frame called Treta which is repeatable in

> > > nature.Secondly

> > > > > > the 4 sons of dasharatha were not conceived by consuming

> > equal

> > > > > amount

> > > > > > of kheer given by Parajapati.Why four and why diff

> > percentages.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Amma is a very busy soul and whenever it is destined and

> > needed

> > > > > > advises can come through different means.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regds

> > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Listen Mr. pradeep,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > First put some time to know the path Sri Rama took in

> his

> > > > > vanvaas.

> > > > > > > come to chitrakoot, in the deep forest there is one

> > > Sharbhanga

> > > > > > > Rishi's ashram, some remains are there, and u will find

> so

> > > many

> > > > > > > remains of other rishis mentioned in ramayana.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > then goto dandkaranya, visit shabri's ashram ..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > then goto other places..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > no MCdonald has built all these places. OK. they are

> > > preserved

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > poor villagers in hundreds of the centuries.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > goto the place where seeta entered into mother earth's

> > cave.

> > > why

> > > > > > > dont u goto meet Ammaa ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ~Lalit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Respected members

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As i have zero understanding regarding dating of

> > Ramayana

> > > > > etc,i am

> > > > > > > > refraining from giving any views.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But my question is Shri Ramachandra is dated back to

> > Treta

> > > > > Yuga.Was

> > > > > > > > the calculation of years and span of life similar to

> > that

> > > we

> > > > > > > > measure.If it is different what are finding here using

> > our

> > > > > > > softwares.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why was the kheer or payasam distributed in such a

> > way.Do

> > > we

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > > different divine consciousness w.r to Yugas.Is it

> > possible

> > > the

> > > > > > > Atma is

> > > > > > > > one,but the layers associated with it has different

> > > > > perspectives of

> > > > > > > > time and the same atma is living in different

> yugas.Did

> > shri

> > > > > > > > Ramachandra have a higher level of consciousness.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Before we understand the country and state can we be

> > sure

> > > of

> > > > > the MC

> > > > > > > > donalds restaurant which we are looking for, which is

> > close

> > > to

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > railway station and on the right side of the road?Many

> > > > > restaurants

> > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > be situated in any country and satisfy the required

> land

> > > > > marks.But

> > > > > > > > will it be the required one?For that we need to fix

> the

> > > major

> > > > > > > boundaries.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > These are random thoughts kindly think over.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regds

> > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

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I see, images didnt appear, pls. visit this link to understand what's

time dilation and lorent'z cotraction -

 

http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/21st_century_science/lectures/lec06.html

<http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/21st_century_science/lectures/lec06.html>

 

It appears that Lord Brahma's Brahma loka is far away from the earth and

we can visit Brahma Loka only in sukschhma sharir that can travel nearly

at the speed of light. i dont claim that einsteen and lorentz are

ultimate in their findings still they had something solid to tell us,

which is quite logical and matches with the text of our spiritual

scriptures. Now the question remains is what is conciousness and how

it's related to matter, may be the answer is " ego " or ahamkaar or

mahattatva.

 

~ Lalit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " litsol " <litsol wrote:

>

>

> Mr. Pradeep,

>

> The better way to remove doubts is to ask not to teach, What disturbed

> to me was ur silence and appreciation to Srinadh by you, well, When i

> was in 2nd year of my college, I had similar doubts like u are having,

> that time I got answer to one of ur current doubts, as i was away from

> the net and was busy in my hometown, i could not answer u, now i m

back

> to Noida, so writing a mail to you, you said -

>

> " You should think why did sages say one day of God is One year for

> us.One entity called Horse(An Year) at higher level has a ratio of

1:360

> w.r to our level "

>

> I dont know why u have used the term " God " , in the purans, it's

> mentioned as the day of Lord Brahma, I recall a story of dwapar, it's

> related to marriage of Krishna's elder brother - Balram or Baldaau. A

> king visits lord brahma in the begining of the dwapara for a day and

> when he comes back, dwapara was ending.

>

> I got answer in theory of time's dilation, proposed by einsteen, i m

> putting it here, as i got satisfied with the theory, I didn't explore

it

> much during my college period, but if u want, u can explore it more.

>

> This means that time (and space) vary for frames of reference moving

at

> different velocities with respect to each other. The change in time is

> called time dilation, where frames moving near the speed of light have

> slow clocks.

>

>

>

>

>

> * Likewise, space is shorten in in high velocity frames, which is

> called Lorentz contraction

>

>

>

> Space-Time Lab

> <http://www.its.caltech.edu/~phys1/java/phys1/Einstein/Einstein.html>

>

> * relativity leads to some strange consequences, such as the twin

> paradox * however, all these predictions have been conferred

> numerous times by experimentation

> Time dilation leads to the famous Twins Paradox

> <http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/twins_paradox.html> , which is

> not a paradox but rather a simple fact of special relativity. Since

> clocks run slower in frames of reference at high velocity, then one

can

> imagine a scenario were twins age at different rates when separated at

> birth due to a trip to the stars.

> It is important to note that all the predictions of special

relativity,

> length contraction, time dilation and the twin paradox, have been

> confirmed by direct experiments, mostly using sub-atomic particles in

> high energy accelerators. The effects of relativity are dramatic, but

> only when speeds approach the speed of light. At normal velocities,

the

> changes to clocks and rulers are too small to be measured.

>

>

>

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr.Lalit

> >

> > Kinly understand that i am not here for a concfrontation.

> > The consumption of Payasam in differing quantities and the

> > conception thereby is mentioned in Valmiki Ramayana.Thus it is not

> > my view.

> >

> > Why four and why diff percentage was my question.But how do you

> > assmue the rest -the words that you have used -your imaginations?

> >

> > Even when i had used McDonalds example,you were haste in arriving at

> > conclusions.Please understand that there is a purpose behind the

> > question and it is a seed for thought.

> >

> > Shree Ramchandra is Paratama Tattwa.Treta Yuga is level of

> > consciousness.Perception of Time varies with Consciousness level.You

> > should think why did sages say one day of God is One year for us.One

> > entity called Horse(An Year) at higher level has a ratio of 1:360

> > w.r to our level.

> > Yugas have link with movement of Saptarshis.Rishyashringa do fall in

> > the lineage of those.

> >

> > When my knowledge is limited i accept my limitations.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> > , " litsol " litsol@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Mr. Pradeep,

> > >

> > > who said this , you only -

> > >

> > > " the 4 sons of dasharatha were not conceived by consuming equal

> > > amount of kheer given by Parajapati.Why four and why diff

> > > percentages "

> > >

> > > see, ur posting.

> > >

> > > dont act as a great gentleman.

> > >

> > > ok. u r responsible for ur postings and i m showing u ur face in

> > the

> > > mirror.

> > >

> > > ~Lalit.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lalitji,

> > > >

> > > > I had requested you 2 days ago too.

> > > > You must not write the way You have been doing now.

> > > > We knoew that You are a staunch Hindu. But " Josh "

> > > > and " Hosh " together make a good mix.Any of the

> > > > 2 without each other as company is not fruitful

> > > > to put your point across. It is good to have Pradeepji

> > > > in our company and we should not loose him now.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr.Lalit

> > > > >

> > > > > I dont understand what you are up to.

> > > > > You are not understanding my questions.All these cheap words

> > > which

> > > > you

> > > > > have used below regarding Lord Rama is totally at your own

> > > > > responsibility.Never again dare to attribute on me what i have

> > > not

> > > > > said.Please be aware of this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Through these cheap words you are defaming Lord Shri Rama

> > > > chandra.you

> > > > > are trying to put words into my mouth to suit your interests.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regds

> > > > > Pradeep

> > > > >

> > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mr. Pradeep,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > conception can happen even without sex, pls. check same in

> > > > biology

> > > > > > books, do u know last month only a chromosome was conceived

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > Lab. in USA.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why u people are keeping ur mind closed, perhapse God wants

> > > it,

> > > > Do u

> > > > > > mean, by giving kheer to queens means making dashrath

> > > impotent.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What is ur base to deny that Dashrath cant be ram's

> > biological

> > > > > > father, Where u see the reference that Dasharath was not

> > going

> > > to

> > > > > > his queens, where it's written that he was doing a

> > > brahmcharya ?

> > > > > > what's ur reasoning behind defaming Sri Ram's family and

> > > birth ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Think more,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ~Lalit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Mr.Lalit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Perhaps you did not understand my stance.You took

> > MCDonalds

> > > etc

> > > > in

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > literal sense.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It means - planets can have similar positions during many

> > > > instances

> > > > > > > within the bigger frame called TIME.You should first zero

> > in

> > > to

> > > > the

> > > > > > > main time frame called Treta which is repeatable in

> > > > nature.Secondly

> > > > > > > the 4 sons of dasharatha were not conceived by consuming

> > > equal

> > > > > > amount

> > > > > > > of kheer given by Parajapati.Why four and why diff

> > > percentages.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Amma is a very busy soul and whenever it is destined and

> > > needed

> > > > > > > advises can come through different means.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regds

> > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Listen Mr. pradeep,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > First put some time to know the path Sri Rama took in

> > his

> > > > > > vanvaas.

> > > > > > > > come to chitrakoot, in the deep forest there is one

> > > > Sharbhanga

> > > > > > > > Rishi's ashram, some remains are there, and u will find

> > so

> > > > many

> > > > > > > > remains of other rishis mentioned in ramayana.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > then goto dandkaranya, visit shabri's ashram ..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > then goto other places..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > no MCdonald has built all these places. OK. they are

> > > > preserved

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > poor villagers in hundreds of the centuries.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > goto the place where seeta entered into mother earth's

> > > cave.

> > > > why

> > > > > > > > dont u goto meet Ammaa ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ~Lalit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Respected members

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As i have zero understanding regarding dating of

> > > Ramayana

> > > > > > etc,i am

> > > > > > > > > refraining from giving any views.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But my question is Shri Ramachandra is dated back to

> > > Treta

> > > > > > Yuga.Was

> > > > > > > > > the calculation of years and span of life similar to

> > > that

> > > > we

> > > > > > > > > measure.If it is different what are finding here using

> > > our

> > > > > > > > softwares.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why was the kheer or payasam distributed in such a

> > > way.Do

> > > > we

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > different divine consciousness w.r to Yugas.Is it

> > > possible

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > Atma is

> > > > > > > > > one,but the layers associated with it has different

> > > > > > perspectives of

> > > > > > > > > time and the same atma is living in different

> > yugas.Did

> > > shri

> > > > > > > > > Ramachandra have a higher level of consciousness.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Before we understand the country and state can we be

> > > sure

> > > > of

> > > > > > the MC

> > > > > > > > > donalds restaurant which we are looking for, which is

> > > close

> > > > to

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > railway station and on the right side of the road?Many

> > > > > > restaurants

> > > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > be situated in any country and satisfy the required

> > land

> > > > > > marks.But

> > > > > > > > > will it be the required one?For that we need to fix

> > the

> > > > major

> > > > > > > > boundaries.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > These are random thoughts kindly think over.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regds

> > > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>