Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 dear bhaskar bhai i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately time events in the life of jataks. for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no hangups preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person to say the least. last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period of death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which i can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come to conclutions. much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system to learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this humble guru. it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the technique if one can time events then he is a successful practioner of this divine science. best wishes mahalakshmi > On > Behalf Of Bhaskar > Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > Dear Lalitji, > > Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > I know he is not a extremist as we can see > from his observations. I am confident he > knows the good and the Ugly side > nboth, of all the houses.He has just > spoken of the malefic side in context. > > The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > The 6th if strong is good for > a Business man, as it gives good returns > through transactions made, through payments > recieved, through loans processed. > > We also know that many Big Wealthy business > men suffer from the common ill health problems > like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > but he may also have side by side worries to > contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > dogs he keeps as pet animals. > One may have a strong well placed and well known > Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > These are all part of the game one plays. > Duality is the essence of the planets. One > cannot have one side of the planet and not > be touched by the other side. To know > pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > pains of solitude. > > All planets have both the sides. Which side > it is going to manifest more depends on > individual to individual, with regards to the > punsihments meted out, with regards to the > rewards granted. This game of finding what > results one person will see more in his Life > from these planets, is what is reading the > Janma Kundli,all about. > > We are all palying this game. Some play it > better, some not so better. Some play it at > times better, some play it at times ,not > so better. These indications too are present in > the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > Sorry, have gone off track, > in a conversation mode. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > @ <%40> > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is most > > malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co-workers, > thus a > > ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get care > > from the co-workers. > > > > Have u checked this. > > > > Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses that > it > > should give in 6'th house. > > > > If rest is fine, he will make property also after some struggle, > see, > > how 80% people are living in india. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > per > > KAS WS) > > > then person recovers quickly. > > > > > > > > > > > > If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone to > > sickness. > > > 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is how > I > > approach > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for 6th > and > > 1st both > > > become very powerful and gives better results related to > > Individuality > > > (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for 6th > > house so good > > > resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power as > lord > > of Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house is > most > > > malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic house > and > > 8th house > > > is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as most > > benefic and > > > the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > planet > > as per KAS > > > WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan for > > 8th). > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings to > death > > of > > > closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, that > is > > our > > > feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > and > > 3rd house, > > > i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > sthan. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only 6th > > house. Also > > > for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for 1st, > 9th, > > is karak > > > for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So for > > these house > > > its to be considered more keenly. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > perspective. > > > > > > > > > > > > As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > them > > get > > > enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > > enhanced. So > > > 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the spiritual > > plane and > > > most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective how > it > > can be > > > bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them as > good > > or bad > > > based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > sushtana > > and > > > dushtana and trik etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > [@ <%40> > ] On > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > @ <%40> > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > It is all during the stay in this physical > > > body, is the houses considered so. > > > It also depends how each one would work > > > for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > and the planets are just the doorways > > > and the means to finish the unfinished > > > business and get going to another zone...... > > > I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > of health,and not disease, with my close > > > friends. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house is > karak > > > for 1st > > > > house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How it > can > > > be bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are so many things to consider. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It is > 6th > > > from 3rd > > > > house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > upachaya > > > sthan for > > > > 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it will try to give good result for these house. Transit is > for > > > > environment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is not > > > followed in > > > > KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total then > > > karakwa denoted > > > > by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa is > going > > > over a > > > > house where it has 0 points then it has some other meaning. Sa > > > and Ju will > > > > become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even degree > of > > > transit of > > > > Ju and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can look > up > > > KAS list > > > > where such things has been solved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in Kalprush > chart > > > has more > > > > power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd house > is > > > good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > [@ <%40> > > > ] On > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Okay, > > > > > > > > But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > > in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > > Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > > with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > > > > > > 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > > 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > > either)? > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, Krishna > and > > > his > > > > 2 > > > > > relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > > compared > > > > to Pisces > > > > > and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in Pisces > as > > > > compared to > > > > > Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you and > for > > > > the > > > > > remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > relatives, > > > > Ju has more > > > > > power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > ca> ca> > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > > > [@ <%40> > > > > ] On > > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > > > I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju contribute in > > > > Pisces > > > > > as > > > > > > compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts please > use > > > > > Varharamira's > > > > > > SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to see. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > ca> ca> > > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > > ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > > > > > > [@ <% 40> > > > > > ] On > > > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > > > > > > How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > > > > anymore ? > > > > > > > > > > > > let us know. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Mahalakshmi ji, Yes, Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement in these, even in face of provocations. I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to lack of available spare periods, but intend to go through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending Mails " Cheers " . He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), thats all. regards, Bhaskar. , " rama gopalakrishnan " <astromahaluxmi wrote: > > dear bhaskar bhai > i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately time > events in the life of jataks. > for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no hangups > preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person to > say the least. > > last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period of > death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which i > can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come to > conclutions. > much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system to > learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this humble > guru. > it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > technique if one can time events then he is a successful practioner > of this divine science. > best wishes > mahalakshmi > > > > On > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji, > > > > Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > from his observations. I am confident he > > knows the good and the Ugly side > > nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > > The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > The 6th if strong is good for > > a Business man, as it gives good returns > > through transactions made, through payments > > recieved, through loans processed. > > > > We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > men suffer from the common ill health problems > > like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > > Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > but he may also have side by side worries to > > contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > One may have a strong well placed and well known > > Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > > These are all part of the game one plays. > > Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > cannot have one side of the planet and not > > be touched by the other side. To know > > pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > pains of solitude. > > > > All planets have both the sides. Which side > > it is going to manifest more depends on > > individual to individual, with regards to the > > punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > rewards granted. This game of finding what > > results one person will see more in his Life > > from these planets, is what is reading the > > Janma Kundli,all about. > > > > We are all palying this game. Some play it > > better, some not so better. Some play it at > > times better, some play it at times ,not > > so better. These indications too are present in > > the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > > Sorry, have gone off track, > > in a conversation mode. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > @ <%40> > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > most > > > malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co-workers, > > thus a > > > ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > care > > > from the co-workers. > > > > > > Have u checked this. > > > > > > Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > that > > it > > > should give in 6'th house. > > > > > > If rest is fine, he will make property also after some struggle, > > see, > > > how 80% people are living in india. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > > per > > > KAS WS) > > > > then person recovers quickly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > to > > > sickness. > > > > 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is how > > I > > > approach > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > 6th > > and > > > 1st both > > > > become very powerful and gives better results related to > > > Individuality > > > > (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for 6th > > > house so good > > > > resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power as > > lord > > > of Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > is > > most > > > > malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic house > > and > > > 8th house > > > > is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > most > > > benefic and > > > > the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > planet > > > as per KAS > > > > WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > for > > > 8th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings to > > death > > > of > > > > closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, that > > is > > > our > > > > feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > > and > > > 3rd house, > > > > i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > > sthan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only 6th > > > house. Also > > > > for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for 1st, > > 9th, > > > is karak > > > > for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So for > > > these house > > > > its to be considered more keenly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > perspective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > > them > > > get > > > > enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > > > enhanced. So > > > > 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the spiritual > > > plane and > > > > most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > how > > it > > > can be > > > > bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them as > > good > > > or bad > > > > based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > sushtana > > > and > > > > dushtana and trik etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > [@ <%40> > > ] On > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > > It is all during the stay in this physical > > > > body, is the houses considered so. > > > > It also depends how each one would work > > > > for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > > likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > > no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > > and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > > otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > > and the planets are just the doorways > > > > and the means to finish the unfinished > > > > business and get going to another zone...... > > > > I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > > of health,and not disease, with my close > > > > friends. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house is > > karak > > > > for 1st > > > > > house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > it > > can > > > > be bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are so many things to consider. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > is > > 6th > > > > from 3rd > > > > > house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > upachaya > > > > sthan for > > > > > 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it will try to give good result for these house. Transit > is > > for > > > > > environment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is not > > > > followed in > > > > > KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total then > > > > karakwa denoted > > > > > by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa is > > going > > > > over a > > > > > house where it has 0 points then it has some other meaning. > Sa > > > > and Ju will > > > > > become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even degree > > of > > > > transit of > > > > > Ju and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can look > > up > > > > KAS list > > > > > where such things has been solved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in Kalprush > > chart > > > > has more > > > > > power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd house > > is > > > > good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > ca> ca> > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > > > [@ <%40> > > > > ] On > > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Okay, > > > > > > > > > > But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > > > in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > > > Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > > > with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > > > > > > > > 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > > > 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > > > either)? > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, Krishna > > and > > > > his > > > > > 2 > > > > > > relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > > > compared > > > > > to Pisces > > > > > > and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > Pisces > > as > > > > > compared to > > > > > > Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > and > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > relatives, > > > > > Ju has more > > > > > > power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > ca> ca> > > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > > > > > > [@ <% 40> > > > > > ] On > > > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > > > > I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% > 40> > > > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju contribute > in > > > > > Pisces > > > > > > as > > > > > > > compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts please > > use > > > > > > Varharamira's > > > > > > > SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to see. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > > > > > ca> ca> > > > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > ca> ca> > > > > ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% > 40> > > > > > > > > > > > > [@ <% > 40> > > > > > > ] On > > > > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > > > > > @ <% > 40> > > > > > > > > > > > > How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > > > > > anymore ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let us know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Bhaskar ji Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. regards / Prafulla Gang http://www.vedic-jyotish.net Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ > > bhaskar_jyotish > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > Yes, > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > in these, even in face of provocations. > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > Mails " Cheers " . > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > thats all. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > <astromahaluxmi wrote: >> >> dear bhaskar bhai >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > time >> events in the life of jataks. >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > hangups >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > to >> say the least. >> >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > of >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > i >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come to >> conclutions. >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system to >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > humble >> guru. >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > practioner >> of this divine science. >> best wishes >> mahalakshmi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> On >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM >>> >>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear Lalitji, >>> >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see >>> from his observations. I am confident he >>> knows the good and the Ugly side >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. >>> >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. >>> The 6th if strong is good for >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns >>> through transactions made, through payments >>> recieved, through loans processed. >>> >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. >>> >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money >>> but he may also have side by side worries to >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. >>> >>> These are all part of the game one plays. >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not >>> be touched by the other side. To know >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the >>> pains of solitude. >>> >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side >>> it is going to manifest more depends on >>> individual to individual, with regards to the >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what >>> results one person will see more in his Life >>> from these planets, is what is reading the >>> Janma Kundli,all about. >>> >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at >>> times better, some play it at times ,not >>> so better. These indications too are present in >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. >>> >>> Sorry, have gone off track, >>> in a conversation mode. >>> >>> best wishes, >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> @ <%40> >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: >>>> >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is >> most >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co-workers, >>> thus a >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get >> care >>>> from the co-workers. >>>> >>>> Have u checked this. >>>> >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses >> that >>> it >>>> should give in 6'th house. >>>> >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > struggle, >>> see, >>>> how 80% people are living in india. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> Lalit. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> @ <%40> >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as >>> per >>>> KAS WS) >>>>> then person recovers quickly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone >> to >>>> sickness. >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > how >>> I >>>> approach >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for >> 6th >>> and >>>> 1st both >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to >>>> Individuality >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > 6th >>>> house so good >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > as >>> lord >>>> of Aries. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house >> is >>> most >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > house >>> and >>>> 8th house >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as >> most >>>> benefic and >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power >>> planet >>>> as per KAS >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan >> for >>>> 8th). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > to >>> death >>>> of >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > that >>> is >>>> our >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house >>> and >>>> 3rd house, >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " >>> sthan. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > 6th >>>> house. Also >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > 1st, >>> 9th, >>>> is karak >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > for >>>> these house >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different >>> perspective. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by >>> them >>>> get >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets >>>> enhanced. So >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > spiritual >>>> plane and >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective >> how >>> it >>>> can be >>>>> bad? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > as >>> good >>>> or bad >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the >>> sushtana >>>> and >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>> >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >> http://www.ashtro. >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca >>>>> >>>>> _____ >>>>> >>>>> @ <%40> >>> >>>> [@ <%40> >>> ] On >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM >>>>> @ <%40> >>> >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Ash, >>>>> >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. >>>>> It also depends how each one would work >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close >>>>> friends. >>>>> >>>>> best wishes, >>>>> >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>>>> @ <%40> >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > is >>> karak >>>>> for 1st >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How >> it >>> can >>>>> be bad? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It >> is >>> 6th >>>>> from 3rd >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is >>> upachaya >>>>> sthan for >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > house. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > Transit >> is >>> for >>>>>> environment. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > not >>>>> followed in >>>>>> KAS. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > then >>>>> karakwa denoted >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > is >>> going >>>>> over a >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > meaning. >> Sa >>>>> and Ju will >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > degree >>> of >>>>> transit of >>>>>> Ju and Sa. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > look >>> up >>>>> KAS list >>>>>> where such things has been solved. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > Kalprush >>> chart >>>>> has more >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > house >>> is >>>>> good. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> >>> ca> ca> >>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca >>>>>> >>>>>> _____ >>>>>> >>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>> >>>>> [@ <%40> >>>>> ] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM >>>>>> @ <%40> >>>> >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Ash, >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay, >>>>>> >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in >>>>>> either)? >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>> >>>>>> @ <% > 40> >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > Krishna >>> and >>>>> his >>>>>> 2 >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag >>>>> compared >>>>>> to Pisces >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in >> Pisces >>> as >>>>>> compared to >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you >> and >>> for >>>>>> the >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close >>>> relatives, >>>>>> Ju has more >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >>>>> ca> ca> >>>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> >>> ca >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @ <% > 40> >>>>>> >>>>>> [@ <% > 40> >>>>>> ] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM >>>>>>> @ <% > 40> >>>>> >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Ash, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for >>>>>>> Jupiter. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @ <% >> 40> >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > contribute >> in >>>>>> Pisces >>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > please >>> use >>>>>>> Varharamira's >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > see. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> >> ca> ca> >>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >>>> ca> ca> >>>>> ca >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @ <% >> 40> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [@ <% >> 40> >>>>>>> ] On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM >>>>>>>> @ <% >> 40> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and >>>>>>>> anymore ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> let us know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Bhaskar ji and Prafulla ji, Yes Ash is undoubtedly a very fine astrologer. and who questions his abiltiies ....is just to be ignored with a laugh. Warm Regards, Tarun , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > ************************************************ > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > Yes, > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > Mails " Cheers " . > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > thats all. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > >> > >> dear bhaskar bhai > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > time > >> events in the life of jataks. > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > hangups > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > > to > >> say the least. > >> > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > > of > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > > i > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come to > >> conclutions. > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system to > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > humble > >> guru. > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > practioner > >> of this divine science. > >> best wishes > >> mahalakshmi > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >> On > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > >>> > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear Lalitji, > >>> > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > >>> > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > >>> through transactions made, through payments > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > >>> > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > >>> > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > >>> > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > >>> pains of solitude. > >>> > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > >>> > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > >>> > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > >>> in a conversation mode. > >>> > >>> best wishes, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> @ <%40> > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > >> most > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co-workers, > >>> thus a > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > >> care > >>>> from the co-workers. > >>>> > >>>> Have u checked this. > >>>> > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > >> that > >>> it > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > >>>> > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > struggle, > >>> see, > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > >>>> > >>>> regards, > >>>> Lalit. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> @ <%40> > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > >>> per > >>>> KAS WS) > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > >> to > >>>> sickness. > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > how > >>> I > >>>> approach > >>>>> it. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > >> 6th > >>> and > >>>> 1st both > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > >>>> Individuality > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > 6th > >>>> house so good > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > as > >>> lord > >>>> of Aries. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > >> is > >>> most > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > house > >>> and > >>>> 8th house > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > >> most > >>>> benefic and > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > >>> planet > >>>> as per KAS > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > >> for > >>>> 8th). > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > to > >>> death > >>>> of > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > that > >>> is > >>>> our > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > >>> and > >>>> 3rd house, > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > >>> sthan. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > 6th > >>>> house. Also > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > 1st, > >>> 9th, > >>>> is karak > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > for > >>>> these house > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > >>> perspective. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > >>> them > >>>> get > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > >>>> enhanced. So > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > spiritual > >>>> plane and > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > >> how > >>> it > >>>> can be > >>>>> bad? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > as > >>> good > >>>> or bad > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > >>> sushtana > >>>> and > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>> > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >> http://www.ashtro. > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > >>>>> > >>>>> _____ > >>>>> > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>> > >>>> [@ <%40> > >>> ] On > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>> > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>> > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > >>>>> friends. > >>>>> > >>>>> best wishes, > >>>>> > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > is > >>> karak > >>>>> for 1st > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > >> it > >>> can > >>>>> be bad? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > >> is > >>> 6th > >>>>> from 3rd > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > >>> upachaya > >>>>> sthan for > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > house. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > Transit > >> is > >>> for > >>>>>> environment. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > not > >>>>> followed in > >>>>>> KAS. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > then > >>>>> karakwa denoted > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > is > >>> going > >>>>> over a > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > meaning. > >> Sa > >>>>> and Ju will > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > degree > >>> of > >>>>> transit of > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > look > >>> up > >>>>> KAS list > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > Kalprush > >>> chart > >>>>> has more > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > house > >>> is > >>>>> good. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >>> ca> ca> > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _____ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> > >>>>> [@ <%40> > >>>>> ] On > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > >>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>> > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Okay, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > >>>>>> either)? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards, > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > Krishna > >>> and > >>>>> his > >>>>>> 2 > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > >>>>> compared > >>>>>> to Pisces > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > >> Pisces > >>> as > >>>>>> compared to > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > >> and > >>> for > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > >>>> relatives, > >>>>>> Ju has more > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > >>> ca > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [@ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > >>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>> > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > contribute > >> in > >>>>>> Pisces > >>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > please > >>> use > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > see. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >> ca> ca> > >>>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>> ca> ca> > >>>>> ca > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [@ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > >>>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> let us know. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Tarun, You have shown ur quality - ~Lalit. , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji and Prafulla ji, > > > Yes Ash is undoubtedly a very fine astrologer. and who questions his > abiltiies ....is just to be ignored with a laugh. > > Warm Regards, > > Tarun > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > Yes, > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > thats all. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > >> > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > > time > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > hangups > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the > person > > > to > > >> say the least. > > >> > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > > > of > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period > which > > > i > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come > to > > >> conclutions. > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system > to > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > humble > > >> guru. > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > practioner > > >> of this divine science. > > >> best wishes > > >> mahalakshmi > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> On > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > >>> > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > >>> > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > >>> > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > >>> > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > >>> > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > >>> > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > >>> pains of solitude. > > >>> > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > >>> > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > >>> > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > >>> > > >>> best wishes, > > >>> Bhaskar. > > >>> > > >>> @ <%40> > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > > >> most > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- workers, > > >>> thus a > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > > >> care > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > >>>> > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > >>>> > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > > >> that > > >>> it > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > >>>> > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > struggle, > > >>> see, > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > >>>> > > >>>> regards, > > >>>> Lalit. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> @ <%40> > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > > >>> per > > >>>> KAS WS) > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > > >> to > > >>>> sickness. > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > > how > > >>> I > > >>>> approach > > >>>>> it. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > > >> 6th > > >>> and > > >>>> 1st both > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > >>>> Individuality > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > > 6th > > >>>> house so good > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > > as > > >>> lord > > >>>> of Aries. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > > >> is > > >>> most > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > house > > >>> and > > >>>> 8th house > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > >> most > > >>>> benefic and > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > >>> planet > > >>>> as per KAS > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > > >> for > > >>>> 8th). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > > to > > >>> death > > >>>> of > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > that > > >>> is > > >>>> our > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > > >>> and > > >>>> 3rd house, > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > > >>> sthan. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > 6th > > >>>> house. Also > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > 1st, > > >>> 9th, > > >>>> is karak > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > > for > > >>>> these house > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > >>> perspective. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > > >>> them > > >>>> get > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > > >>>> enhanced. So > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > spiritual > > >>>> plane and > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > > >> how > > >>> it > > >>>> can be > > >>>>> bad? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > > as > > >>> good > > >>>> or bad > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > >>> sushtana > > >>>> and > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > >>>>> > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > >>> > > >>>> [@ <%40> > > >>> ] On > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > >>> > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > >>>>> friends. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> best wishes, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > is > > >>> karak > > >>>>> for 1st > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > > >> it > > >>> can > > >>>>> be bad? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > > >> is > > >>> 6th > > >>>>> from 3rd > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > >>> upachaya > > >>>>> sthan for > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > house. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > Transit > > >> is > > >>> for > > >>>>>> environment. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > not > > >>>>> followed in > > >>>>>> KAS. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > then > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > is > > >>> going > > >>>>> over a > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > meaning. > > >> Sa > > >>>>> and Ju will > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > degree > > >>> of > > >>>>> transit of > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > look > > >>> up > > >>>>> KAS list > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > Kalprush > > >>> chart > > >>>>> has more > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > house > > >>> is > > >>>>> good. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >>> ca> ca> > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> @ <%40> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [@ <% 40> > > >>>>> ] On > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > >>>>>> @ <%40> > > >>>> > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Okay, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > >>>>>> either)? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> regards, > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > Krishna > > >>> and > > >>>>> his > > >>>>>> 2 > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > >>>>> compared > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > >> Pisces > > >>> as > > >>>>>> compared to > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > >> and > > >>> for > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > >>>> relatives, > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > >>> ca > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> [@ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>>> ] On > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> regards, > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > contribute > > >> in > > >>>>>> Pisces > > >>>>>>> as > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > please > > >>> use > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > see. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >> ca> ca> > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>> ca > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> [@ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> ] On > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear mahalakshmiJi, I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, If this is the same Ash. Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done a good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is what i saw. In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too deep in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses and 9 planets. regards, Lalit. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > ************************************************ > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > Yes, > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > Mails " Cheers " . > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > thats all. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > >> > >> dear bhaskar bhai > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > time > >> events in the life of jataks. > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > hangups > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > > to > >> say the least. > >> > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > > of > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > > i > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come to > >> conclutions. > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system to > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > humble > >> guru. > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > practioner > >> of this divine science. > >> best wishes > >> mahalakshmi > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >> On > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > >>> > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear Lalitji, > >>> > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > >>> > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > >>> through transactions made, through payments > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > >>> > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > >>> > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > >>> > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > >>> pains of solitude. > >>> > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > >>> > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > >>> > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > >>> in a conversation mode. > >>> > >>> best wishes, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> @ <%40> > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > >> most > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co-workers, > >>> thus a > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > >> care > >>>> from the co-workers. > >>>> > >>>> Have u checked this. > >>>> > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > >> that > >>> it > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > >>>> > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > struggle, > >>> see, > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > >>>> > >>>> regards, > >>>> Lalit. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> @ <%40> > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > >>> per > >>>> KAS WS) > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > >> to > >>>> sickness. > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > how > >>> I > >>>> approach > >>>>> it. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > >> 6th > >>> and > >>>> 1st both > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > >>>> Individuality > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > 6th > >>>> house so good > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > as > >>> lord > >>>> of Aries. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > >> is > >>> most > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > house > >>> and > >>>> 8th house > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > >> most > >>>> benefic and > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > >>> planet > >>>> as per KAS > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > >> for > >>>> 8th). > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > to > >>> death > >>>> of > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > that > >>> is > >>>> our > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > >>> and > >>>> 3rd house, > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > >>> sthan. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > 6th > >>>> house. Also > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > 1st, > >>> 9th, > >>>> is karak > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > for > >>>> these house > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > >>> perspective. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > >>> them > >>>> get > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > >>>> enhanced. So > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > spiritual > >>>> plane and > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > >> how > >>> it > >>>> can be > >>>>> bad? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > as > >>> good > >>>> or bad > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > >>> sushtana > >>>> and > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>> > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >> http://www.ashtro. > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > >>>>> > >>>>> _____ > >>>>> > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>> > >>>> [@ <%40> > >>> ] On > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>> > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>> > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > >>>>> friends. > >>>>> > >>>>> best wishes, > >>>>> > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > is > >>> karak > >>>>> for 1st > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > >> it > >>> can > >>>>> be bad? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > >> is > >>> 6th > >>>>> from 3rd > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > >>> upachaya > >>>>> sthan for > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > house. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > Transit > >> is > >>> for > >>>>>> environment. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > not > >>>>> followed in > >>>>>> KAS. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > then > >>>>> karakwa denoted > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > is > >>> going > >>>>> over a > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > meaning. > >> Sa > >>>>> and Ju will > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > degree > >>> of > >>>>> transit of > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > look > >>> up > >>>>> KAS list > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > Kalprush > >>> chart > >>>>> has more > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > house > >>> is > >>>>> good. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >>> ca> ca> > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _____ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> > >>>>> [@ <%40> > >>>>> ] On > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > >>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>> > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Okay, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > >>>>>> either)? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards, > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > Krishna > >>> and > >>>>> his > >>>>>> 2 > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > >>>>> compared > >>>>>> to Pisces > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > >> Pisces > >>> as > >>>>>> compared to > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > >> and > >>> for > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > >>>> relatives, > >>>>>> Ju has more > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > >>> ca > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [@ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > >>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>> > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > contribute > >> in > >>>>>> Pisces > >>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > please > >>> use > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > see. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >> ca> ca> > >>>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>> ca> ca> > >>>>> ca > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [@ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > >>>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> let us know. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Lalitji, I disagree with infighting between us members without strong provocations. We must stay united by all means, at least try to. On the other hand I agree with certain points in Your mail, but in general and without reference to anyone in particular. 1) Postmartem may not suggest prowess in predicting for future. 2) People jumping to divisonal charts or ashtakvargas without knowing the results of 9 Planets placed in 12 houses and signs. 3) Branding of any Vedic Parashar system of prediction to ones own name. The above are personal views,with no reference to anyone please.I always wish free speech but at same time live as a family member within our community. I do not advocate differences between us astrologers, except perhaps on principles, rules and ways of prognostications, which is but natural. We all should be so closely knit otherwise, that if 1 astrologer is in need of any kind of help, then 100 others should be ready to stand and offer the help. This is my vision for us astrologers and it pains me when we have infighting. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, If > this is the same Ash. > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done a > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is what > i saw. > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too deep > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses and > 9 planets. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > Yes, > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > thats all. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > >> > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > > time > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > hangups > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > > > to > > >> say the least. > > >> > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > > > of > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > > > i > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come > to > > >> conclutions. > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system > to > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > humble > > >> guru. > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > practioner > > >> of this divine science. > > >> best wishes > > >> mahalakshmi > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> On > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > >>> > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > >>> > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > >>> > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > >>> > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > >>> > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > >>> > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > >>> pains of solitude. > > >>> > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > >>> > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > >>> > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > >>> > > >>> best wishes, > > >>> Bhaskar. > > >>> > > >>> @ <%40> > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > > >> most > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- workers, > > >>> thus a > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > > >> care > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > >>>> > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > >>>> > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > > >> that > > >>> it > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > >>>> > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > struggle, > > >>> see, > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > >>>> > > >>>> regards, > > >>>> Lalit. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> @ <%40> > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > > >>> per > > >>>> KAS WS) > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > > >> to > > >>>> sickness. > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > > how > > >>> I > > >>>> approach > > >>>>> it. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > > >> 6th > > >>> and > > >>>> 1st both > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > >>>> Individuality > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > > 6th > > >>>> house so good > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > > as > > >>> lord > > >>>> of Aries. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > > >> is > > >>> most > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > house > > >>> and > > >>>> 8th house > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > >> most > > >>>> benefic and > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > >>> planet > > >>>> as per KAS > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > > >> for > > >>>> 8th). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > > to > > >>> death > > >>>> of > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > that > > >>> is > > >>>> our > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > > >>> and > > >>>> 3rd house, > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > > >>> sthan. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > 6th > > >>>> house. Also > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > 1st, > > >>> 9th, > > >>>> is karak > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > > for > > >>>> these house > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > >>> perspective. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > > >>> them > > >>>> get > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > > >>>> enhanced. So > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > spiritual > > >>>> plane and > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > > >> how > > >>> it > > >>>> can be > > >>>>> bad? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > > as > > >>> good > > >>>> or bad > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > >>> sushtana > > >>>> and > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > >>>>> > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > >>> > > >>>> [@ <% 40> > > >>> ] On > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > >>> > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > >>>>> friends. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> best wishes, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> @ <% 40> > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > is > > >>> karak > > >>>>> for 1st > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > > >> it > > >>> can > > >>>>> be bad? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > > >> is > > >>> 6th > > >>>>> from 3rd > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > >>> upachaya > > >>>>> sthan for > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > house. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > Transit > > >> is > > >>> for > > >>>>>> environment. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > not > > >>>>> followed in > > >>>>>> KAS. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > then > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > is > > >>> going > > >>>>> over a > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > meaning. > > >> Sa > > >>>>> and Ju will > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > degree > > >>> of > > >>>>> transit of > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > look > > >>> up > > >>>>> KAS list > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > Kalprush > > >>> chart > > >>>>> has more > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > house > > >>> is > > >>>>> good. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >>> ca> ca> > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> @ <% 40> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [@ <% 40> > > >>>>> ] On > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > >>>>>> @ <%40> > > >>>> > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Okay, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > >>>>>> either)? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> regards, > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > Krishna > > >>> and > > >>>>> his > > >>>>>> 2 > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > >>>>> compared > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > >> Pisces > > >>> as > > >>>>>> compared to > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > >> and > > >>> for > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > >>>> relatives, > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > >>> ca > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> [@ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>>> ] On > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> regards, > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > contribute > > >> in > > >>>>>> Pisces > > >>>>>>> as > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > please > > >>> use > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > see. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >> ca> ca> > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>> ca > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> [@ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> ] On > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Lalitji, > > I disagree with infighting between us members > without strong provocations. We must stay > united by all means, at least try to. > > On the other hand I agree with certain > points in Your mail, but in general and > without reference to anyone in particular. > > 1) Postmartem may not suggest prowess in > predicting for future. > > 2) People jumping to divisonal charts or > ashtakvargas without knowing the results of > 9 Planets placed in 12 houses and signs. > > 3) Branding of any Vedic Parashar system > of prediction to ones own name. > > The above are personal views,with no reference > to anyone please.I always wish free speech > but at same time live as a family member > within our community. I do not advocate > differences between us astrologers, except > perhaps on principles, rules and ways of > prognostications, which is but natural. > > We all should be so closely knit otherwise, > that if 1 astrologer is in need of any kind of > help, then 100 others should be ready to stand and > offer the help. This is my vision > for us astrologers and it pains me when we > have infighting. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > I think that method of prediction with ashtakavarga one of the best method. I don't know this method for now, but my friend who is Jyotishi with that method give 100% correct prediction when is learn this method of prediction. That is what I know of ashtakavarga in predictive technic og Jyotish from second hand. regards, ashwini > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, > If > > this is the same Ash. > > > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done > a > > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is > what > > i saw. > > > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too > deep > > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses > and > > 9 planets. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most > forum > > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > > > Yes, > > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > > thats all. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > > > time > > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have > developed a > > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > > hangups > > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the > person > > > > to > > > >> say the least. > > > >> > > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the > period > > > > of > > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period > which > > > > i > > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to > come > > to > > > >> conclutions. > > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique > system > > to > > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > > humble > > > >> guru. > > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever > the > > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > > practioner > > > >> of this divine science. > > > >> best wishes > > > >> mahalakshmi > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> On > > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > >>> > > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > > >>> > > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > >>> > > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > > >>> > > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > >>> > > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > >>> > > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > > >>> pains of solitude. > > > >>> > > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > > >>> > > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > >>> > > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > > >>> > > > >>> best wishes, > > > >>> Bhaskar. > > > >>> > > > >>> @ <%40> > > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house > is > > > >> most > > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- > workers, > > > >>> thus a > > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > > > >> care > > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some > diseasses > > > >> that > > > >>> it > > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > > struggle, > > > >>> see, > > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> regards, > > > >>>> Lalit. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> @ <%40> > > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good > (as > > > >>> per > > > >>>> KAS WS) > > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more > prone > > > >> to > > > >>>> sickness. > > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > > > how > > > >>> I > > > >>>> approach > > > >>>>> it. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > > > >> 6th > > > >>> and > > > >>>> 1st both > > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > > >>>> Individuality > > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > > > 6th > > > >>>> house so good > > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > > > as > > > >>> lord > > > >>>> of Aries. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th > house > > > >> is > > > >>> most > > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > > house > > > >>> and > > > >>>> 8th house > > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > > >> most > > > >>>> benefic and > > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > > >>> planet > > > >>>> as per KAS > > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > > > >> for > > > >>>> 8th). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > > > to > > > >>> death > > > >>>> of > > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > > that > > > >>> is > > > >>>> our > > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th > house > > > >>> and > > > >>>> 3rd house, > > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed > as " dushtana " > > > >>> sthan. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > > 6th > > > >>>> house. Also > > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > > 1st, > > > >>> 9th, > > > >>>> is karak > > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > > > for > > > >>>> these house > > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > > >>> perspective. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled > by > > > >>> them > > > >>>> get > > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also > gets > > > >>>> enhanced. So > > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > > spiritual > > > >>>> plane and > > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > > > >> how > > > >>> it > > > >>>> can be > > > >>>>> bad? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > > > as > > > >>> good > > > >>>> or bad > > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > > >>> sushtana > > > >>>> and > > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> _____ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > > >>> > > > >>>> [@ <% > 40> > > > >>> ] On > > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > > >>>>> friends. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> best wishes, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> @ <% > 40> > > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > > is > > > >>> karak > > > >>>>> for 1st > > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > > > >> it > > > >>> can > > > >>>>> be bad? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > > > >> is > > > >>> 6th > > > >>>>> from 3rd > > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > > >>> upachaya > > > >>>>> sthan for > > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > > house. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > > Transit > > > >> is > > > >>> for > > > >>>>>> environment. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > > not > > > >>>>> followed in > > > >>>>>> KAS. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > > then > > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > > is > > > >>> going > > > >>>>> over a > > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > > meaning. > > > >> Sa > > > >>>>> and Ju will > > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > > degree > > > >>> of > > > >>>>> transit of > > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > > look > > > >>> up > > > >>>>> KAS list > > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > > Kalprush > > > >>> chart > > > >>>>> has more > > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > > house > > > >>> is > > > >>>>> good. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > >>> ca> ca> > > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> _____ > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> @ <% > 40> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> [@ <% > 40> > > > >>>>> ] On > > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > >>>>>> @ <%40> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Okay, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > >>>>>> either)? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> regards, > > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> @ <% > > > > 40> > > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > > Krishna > > > >>> and > > > >>>>> his > > > >>>>>> 2 > > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > > >>>>> compared > > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > > >> Pisces > > > >>> as > > > >>>>>> compared to > > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > > >> and > > > >>> for > > > >>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > >>>> relatives, > > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > >>> ca > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> _____ > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > > 40> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> [@ <% > > > > 40> > > > >>>>>> ] On > > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > > 40> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> regards, > > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > > contribute > > > >> in > > > >>>>>> Pisces > > > >>>>>>> as > > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > > please > > > >>> use > > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > > see. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > >> ca> ca> > > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > >>>> ca> ca> > > > >>>>> ca > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> [@ <% > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>>> ] On > > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Ashwini ji, Yes Ashtakvarga is one of the best methods of prediction and also timing the events. We are not doubting this method. regards, Bhaskar. > I think that method of prediction with ashtakavarga one of the best > method. I don't know this method for now, but my friend who is > Jyotishi with that method give 100% correct prediction when is learn > this method of prediction. That is what I know of ashtakavarga in > predictive technic og Jyotish from second hand. > > regards, > ashwini > > , " ashwinikumaras " <ashwinikumaras wrote: > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Lalitji, > > > > I disagree with infighting between us members > > without strong provocations. We must stay > > united by all means, at least try to. > > > > On the other hand I agree with certain > > points in Your mail, but in general and > > without reference to anyone in particular. > > > > 1) Postmartem may not suggest prowess in > > predicting for future. > > > > 2) People jumping to divisonal charts or > > ashtakvargas without knowing the results of > > 9 Planets placed in 12 houses and signs. > > > > 3) Branding of any Vedic Parashar system > > of prediction to ones own name. > > > > The above are personal views,with no reference > > to anyone please.I always wish free speech > > but at same time live as a family member > > within our community. I do not advocate > > differences between us astrologers, except > > perhaps on principles, rules and ways of > > prognostications, which is but natural. > > > > We all should be so closely knit otherwise, > > that if 1 astrologer is in need of any kind of > > help, then 100 others should be ready to stand and > > offer the help. This is my vision > > for us astrologers and it pains me when we > > have infighting. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > > > > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > > > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, > > If > > > this is the same Ash. > > > > > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done > > a > > > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is > > what > > > i saw. > > > > > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > > > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too > > deep > > > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > > > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses > > and > > > 9 planets. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most > > forum > > > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > > > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, > > > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > > > thats all. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > > > > time > > > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have > > developed a > > > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > > > hangups > > > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > > > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the > > person > > > > > to > > > > >> say the least. > > > > >> > > > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the > > period > > > > > of > > > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period > > which > > > > > i > > > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > > > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to > > come > > > to > > > > >> conclutions. > > > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique > > system > > > to > > > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > > > humble > > > > >> guru. > > > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever > > the > > > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > > > practioner > > > > >> of this divine science. > > > > >> best wishes > > > > >> mahalakshmi > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > >> On > > > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > > > >>> pains of solitude. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> best wishes, > > > > >>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> @ <% 40> > > > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house > > is > > > > >> most > > > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- > > workers, > > > > >>> thus a > > > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > > > > >> care > > > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some > > diseasses > > > > >> that > > > > >>> it > > > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > > > struggle, > > > > >>> see, > > > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> regards, > > > > >>>> Lalit. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> @ <% 40> > > > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good > > (as > > > > >>> per > > > > >>>> KAS WS) > > > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more > > prone > > > > >> to > > > > >>>> sickness. > > > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > > > > how > > > > >>> I > > > > >>>> approach > > > > >>>>> it. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > > > > >> 6th > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>> 1st both > > > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > > > >>>> Individuality > > > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > > > > 6th > > > > >>>> house so good > > > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > > > > as > > > > >>> lord > > > > >>>> of Aries. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th > > house > > > > >> is > > > > >>> most > > > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > > > house > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>> 8th house > > > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > > > >> most > > > > >>>> benefic and > > > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > > > >>> planet > > > > >>>> as per KAS > > > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > > > > >> for > > > > >>>> 8th). > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > > > > to > > > > >>> death > > > > >>>> of > > > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > > > that > > > > >>> is > > > > >>>> our > > > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th > > house > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>> 3rd house, > > > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed > > as " dushtana " > > > > >>> sthan. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > > > 6th > > > > >>>> house. Also > > > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > > > 1st, > > > > >>> 9th, > > > > >>>> is karak > > > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > > > > for > > > > >>>> these house > > > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > > > >>> perspective. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled > > by > > > > >>> them > > > > >>>> get > > > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also > > gets > > > > >>>> enhanced. So > > > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > > > spiritual > > > > >>>> plane and > > > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > > > > >> how > > > > >>> it > > > > >>>> can be > > > > >>>>> bad? > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > > > > as > > > > >>> good > > > > >>>> or bad > > > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > > > >>> sushtana > > > > >>>> and > > > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> @ <% 40> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> [@ <% > > 40> > > > > >>> ] On > > > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > > >>>>> @ <% 40> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > > > >>>>> friends. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> best wishes, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> @ <% > > 40> > > > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > > > is > > > > >>> karak > > > > >>>>> for 1st > > > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > > > > >> it > > > > >>> can > > > > >>>>> be bad? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > > > > >> is > > > > >>> 6th > > > > >>>>> from 3rd > > > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > > > >>> upachaya > > > > >>>>> sthan for > > > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > > > house. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > > > Transit > > > > >> is > > > > >>> for > > > > >>>>>> environment. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > > > not > > > > >>>>> followed in > > > > >>>>>> KAS. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > > > then > > > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > > > is > > > > >>> going > > > > >>>>> over a > > > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > > > meaning. > > > > >> Sa > > > > >>>>> and Ju will > > > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > > > degree > > > > >>> of > > > > >>>>> transit of > > > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > > > look > > > > >>> up > > > > >>>>> KAS list > > > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > > > Kalprush > > > > >>> chart > > > > >>>>> has more > > > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > > > house > > > > >>> is > > > > >>>>> good. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > >>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> [@ <% > > 40> > > > > >>>>> ] On > > > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > > >>>>>> @ <% 40> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> Okay, > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > > >>>>>> either)? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> regards, > > > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> @ <% > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > > > Krishna > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>>> his > > > > >>>>>> 2 > > > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > > > >>>>> compared > > > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > > > >> Pisces > > > > >>> as > > > > >>>>>> compared to > > > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > > > >> and > > > > >>> for > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > > >>>> relatives, > > > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > >>> ca > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> [@ <% > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>>> ] On > > > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > > > 40> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> regards, > > > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > > > contribute > > > > >> in > > > > >>>>>> Pisces > > > > >>>>>>> as > > > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > > > please > > > > >>> use > > > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > > > see. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > >> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > >>>> ca> ca> > > > > >>>>> ca > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> [@ <% > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>>> ] On > > > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > > > >> 40> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Ashwini ji, > > Yes Ashtakvarga is one of the best methods of > prediction and also timing the events. We are not > doubting this method. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > Well, I'm glad to hear that . I must to learn that method very soon . Regards, ashwini > > > I think that method of prediction with ashtakavarga one of the best > > method. I don't know this method for now, but my friend who is > > Jyotishi with that method give 100% correct prediction when is > learn > > this method of prediction. That is what I know of ashtakavarga in > > predictive technic og Jyotish from second hand. > > > > regards, > > ashwini > > > > > > > , " ashwinikumaras " > <ashwinikumaras@> wrote: > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lalitji, > > > > > > I disagree with infighting between us members > > > without strong provocations. We must stay > > > united by all means, at least try to. > > > > > > On the other hand I agree with certain > > > points in Your mail, but in general and > > > without reference to anyone in particular. > > > > > > 1) Postmartem may not suggest prowess in > > > predicting for future. > > > > > > 2) People jumping to divisonal charts or > > > ashtakvargas without knowing the results of > > > 9 Planets placed in 12 houses and signs. > > > > > > 3) Branding of any Vedic Parashar system > > > of prediction to ones own name. > > > > > > The above are personal views,with no reference > > > to anyone please.I always wish free speech > > > but at same time live as a family member > > > within our community. I do not advocate > > > differences between us astrologers, except > > > perhaps on principles, rules and ways of > > > prognostications, which is but natural. > > > > > > We all should be so closely knit otherwise, > > > that if 1 astrologer is in need of any kind of > > > help, then 100 others should be ready to stand and > > > offer the help. This is my vision > > > for us astrologers and it pains me when we > > > have infighting. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > > > > > > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there > and > > > > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial > justification, > > > If > > > > this is the same Ash. > > > > > > > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has > done > > > a > > > > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this > is > > > what > > > > i saw. > > > > > > > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a > native > > > > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump > too > > > deep > > > > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as > per > > > > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 > houses > > > and > > > > 9 planets. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most > > > forum > > > > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, > I > > > > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > > > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > > > > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, > > > > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back > that he > > > > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > > > > thats all. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > > > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to > accurately > > > > > > time > > > > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > > > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have > > > developed a > > > > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with > no > > > > > > hangups > > > > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or > adverse > > > > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of > the > > > person > > > > > > to > > > > > >> say the least. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the > > > period > > > > > > of > > > > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year > period > > > which > > > > > > i > > > > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does > deserve a > > > > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time > events > > > > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use > to > > > come > > > > to > > > > > >> conclutions. > > > > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique > > > system > > > > to > > > > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of > this > > > > > > humble > > > > > >> guru. > > > > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, > whatever > > > the > > > > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > > > > practioner > > > > > >> of this divine science. > > > > > >> best wishes > > > > > >> mahalakshmi > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> On > > > > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > > > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > > > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > > > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > > > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > > > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > > > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > > > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > > > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > > > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > > > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > > > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > > > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > > > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > > > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > > > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > > > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > > > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > > > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > > > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > > > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > > > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > > > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > > > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > > > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > > > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > > > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > > > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > > > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > > > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > > > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > > > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > > > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > > > > >>> pains of solitude. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > > > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > > > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > > > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > > > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > > > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > > > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > > > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > > > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > > > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > > > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > > > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > > > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> best wishes, > > > > > >>> Bhaskar. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> @ <% > 40> > > > > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th > house > > > is > > > > > >> most > > > > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- > > > workers, > > > > > >>> thus a > > > > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, > u get > > > > > >> care > > > > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some > > > diseasses > > > > > >> that > > > > > >>> it > > > > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > > > > struggle, > > > > > >>> see, > > > > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> regards, > > > > > >>>> Lalit. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> @ <% > 40> > > > > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is > good > > > (as > > > > > >>> per > > > > > >>>> KAS WS) > > > > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more > > > prone > > > > > >> to > > > > > >>>> sickness. > > > > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. > That is > > > > > > how > > > > > >>> I > > > > > >>>> approach > > > > > >>>>> it. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural > karak for > > > > > >> 6th > > > > > >>> and > > > > > >>>> 1st both > > > > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related > to > > > > > >>>> Individuality > > > > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also > for > > > > > > 6th > > > > > >>>> house so good > > > > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery > power > > > > > > as > > > > > >>> lord > > > > > >>>> of Aries. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th > > > house > > > > > >> is > > > > > >>> most > > > > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most > benefic > > > > > > house > > > > > >>> and > > > > > >>>> 8th house > > > > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is > considered as > > > > > >> most > > > > > >>>> benefic and > > > > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest > power > > > > > >>> planet > > > > > >>>> as per KAS > > > > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya > sthan > > > > > >> for > > > > > >>>> 8th). > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our > feelings > > > > > > to > > > > > >>> death > > > > > >>>> of > > > > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being > said, > > > > > > that > > > > > >>> is > > > > > >>>> our > > > > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th > > > house > > > > > >>> and > > > > > >>>> 3rd house, > > > > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed > > > as " dushtana " > > > > > >>> sthan. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. > Only > > > > > > 6th > > > > > >>>> house. Also > > > > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya > for > > > > > > 1st, > > > > > >>> 9th, > > > > > >>>> is karak > > > > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as > well. So > > > > > > for > > > > > >>>> these house > > > > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > > > > >>> perspective. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house > ruled > > > by > > > > > >>> them > > > > > >>>> get > > > > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits > also > > > gets > > > > > >>>> enhanced. So > > > > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > > > > spiritual > > > > > >>>> plane and > > > > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that > perspective > > > > > >> how > > > > > >>> it > > > > > >>>> can be > > > > > >>>>> bad? > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify > them > > > > > > as > > > > > >>> good > > > > > >>>> or bad > > > > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint > the > > > > > >>> sushtana > > > > > >>>> and > > > > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> @ <% > 40> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> [@ <% > > > 40> > > > > > >>> ] On > > > > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > > > >>>>> @ <% > 40> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > > > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > > > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > > > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > > > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > > > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > > > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > > > > >>>>> friends. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> best wishes, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th > house > > > > > > is > > > > > >>> karak > > > > > >>>>> for 1st > > > > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of > death. How > > > > > >> it > > > > > >>> can > > > > > >>>>> be bad? > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for > income. It > > > > > >> is > > > > > >>> 6th > > > > > >>>>> from 3rd > > > > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > > > > >>> upachaya > > > > > >>>>> sthan for > > > > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > > > > house. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > > > > Transit > > > > > >> is > > > > > >>> for > > > > > >>>>>> environment. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which > is > > > > > > not > > > > > >>>>> followed in > > > > > >>>>>> KAS. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in > total > > > > > > then > > > > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > > > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and > Sa > > > > > > is > > > > > >>> going > > > > > >>>>> over a > > > > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > > > > meaning. > > > > > >> Sa > > > > > >>>>> and Ju will > > > > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > > > > degree > > > > > >>> of > > > > > >>>>> transit of > > > > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you > can > > > > > > look > > > > > >>> up > > > > > >>>>> KAS list > > > > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > > > > Kalprush > > > > > >>> chart > > > > > >>>>> has more > > > > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > > > > house > > > > > >>> is > > > > > >>>>> good. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > >>> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> _____ > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> [@ <% > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>> ] On > > > > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > > > >>>>>> @ <% > 40> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> Okay, > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > > > >>>>>> either)? > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> regards, > > > > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> @ <% > > > > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > >>> and > > > > > >>>>> his > > > > > >>>>>> 2 > > > > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in > Sag > > > > > >>>>> compared > > > > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > > > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > > > > >> Pisces > > > > > >>> as > > > > > >>>>>> compared to > > > > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for > you > > > > > >> and > > > > > >>> for > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > > > >>>> relatives, > > > > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > > > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > > >>> ca > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> _____ > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> [@ <% > > > > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>>> ] On > > > > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > > > > 40> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> regards, > > > > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > > > > contribute > > > > > >> in > > > > > >>>>>> Pisces > > > > > >>>>>>> as > > > > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > > > > please > > > > > >>> use > > > > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > > > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > > > > see. > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > >> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > > >>>> ca> ca> > > > > > >>>>> ca > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> [@ <% > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > >>>>>>> ] On > > > > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 , " ashwinikumaras " <ashwinikumaras wrote: > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Ashwini ji, > > > > Yes Ashtakvarga is one of the best methods of > > prediction and also timing the events. We are not > > doubting this method. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > Well, I'm glad to hear that . I must to learn that method very > soon . > > Regards, > ashwini > > Well, my lagna is Simha rashi and soon in Vimshotari dasha will be pratyantara dasha of Guru. I have wishing that pratyantara dasha so long . Will be interesting to monitoring that Guru because is in Moola nakshatra, maybe will give me much more investigations of Ayurveda and herbal remedies, maybe some course on Ayurveda, or initiation in some healing technic. Regards, ashwini > > > I think that method of prediction with ashtakavarga one of the best > > > method. I don't know this method for now, but my friend who is > > > Jyotishi with that method give 100% correct prediction when is > > learn > > > this method of prediction. That is what I know of ashtakavarga in > > > predictive technic og Jyotish from second hand. > > > > > > regards, > > > ashwini > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashwinikumaras " > > <ashwinikumaras@> wrote: > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji, > > > > > > > > I disagree with infighting between us members > > > > without strong provocations. We must stay > > > > united by all means, at least try to. > > > > > > > > On the other hand I agree with certain > > > > points in Your mail, but in general and > > > > without reference to anyone in particular. > > > > > > > > 1) Postmartem may not suggest prowess in > > > > predicting for future. > > > > > > > > 2) People jumping to divisonal charts or > > > > ashtakvargas without knowing the results of > > > > 9 Planets placed in 12 houses and signs. > > > > > > > > 3) Branding of any Vedic Parashar system > > > > of prediction to ones own name. > > > > > > > > The above are personal views,with no reference > > > > to anyone please.I always wish free speech > > > > but at same time live as a family member > > > > within our community. I do not advocate > > > > differences between us astrologers, except > > > > perhaps on principles, rules and ways of > > > > prognostications, which is but natural. > > > > > > > > We all should be so closely knit otherwise, > > > > that if 1 astrologer is in need of any kind of > > > > help, then 100 others should be ready to stand and > > > > offer the help. This is my vision > > > > for us astrologers and it pains me when we > > > > have infighting. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > > > > > > > > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there > > and > > > > > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial > > justification, > > > > If > > > > > this is the same Ash. > > > > > > > > > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has > > done > > > > a > > > > > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this > > is > > > > what > > > > > i saw. > > > > > > > > > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a > > native > > > > > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump > > too > > > > deep > > > > > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as > > per > > > > > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 > > houses > > > > and > > > > > 9 planets. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most > > > > forum > > > > > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, > > I > > > > > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > > > > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > > > > > > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, > > > > > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > > > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > > > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > > > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > > > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > > > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > > > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > > > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > > > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > > > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back > > that he > > > > > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > > > > > thats all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > > > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > > > > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to > > accurately > > > > > > > time > > > > > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > > > > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have > > > > developed a > > > > > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with > > no > > > > > > > hangups > > > > > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or > > adverse > > > > > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of > > the > > > > person > > > > > > > to > > > > > > >> say the least. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the > > > > period > > > > > > > of > > > > > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year > > period > > > > which > > > > > > > i > > > > > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does > > deserve a > > > > > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time > > events > > > > > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use > > to > > > > come > > > > > to > > > > > > >> conclutions. > > > > > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique > > > > system > > > > > to > > > > > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of > > this > > > > > > > humble > > > > > > >> guru. > > > > > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, > > whatever > > > > the > > > > > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > > > > > practioner > > > > > > >> of this divine science. > > > > > > >> best wishes > > > > > > >> mahalakshmi > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> On > > > > > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > > > > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > > > > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > > > > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > > > > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > > > > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > > > > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > > > > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > > > > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > > > > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > > > > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > > > > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > > > > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > > > > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > > > > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > > > > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > > > > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > > > > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > > > > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > > > > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > > > > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > > > > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > > > > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > > > > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > > > > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > > > > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > > > > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > > > > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > > > > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > > > > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > > > > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > > > > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > > > > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > > > > > >>> pains of solitude. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > > > > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > > > > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > > > > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > > > > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > > > > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > > > > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > > > > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > > > > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > > > > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > > > > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > > > > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > > > > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> best wishes, > > > > > > >>> Bhaskar. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> @ <% > > 40> > > > > > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th > > house > > > > is > > > > > > >> most > > > > > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- > > > > workers, > > > > > > >>> thus a > > > > > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, > > u get > > > > > > >> care > > > > > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some > > > > diseasses > > > > > > >> that > > > > > > >>> it > > > > > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > > > > > struggle, > > > > > > >>> see, > > > > > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> regards, > > > > > > >>>> Lalit. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> @ <% > > 40> > > > > > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is > > good > > > > (as > > > > > > >>> per > > > > > > >>>> KAS WS) > > > > > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more > > > > prone > > > > > > >> to > > > > > > >>>> sickness. > > > > > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. > > That is > > > > > > > how > > > > > > >>> I > > > > > > >>>> approach > > > > > > >>>>> it. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural > > karak for > > > > > > >> 6th > > > > > > >>> and > > > > > > >>>> 1st both > > > > > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related > > to > > > > > > >>>> Individuality > > > > > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also > > for > > > > > > > 6th > > > > > > >>>> house so good > > > > > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery > > power > > > > > > > as > > > > > > >>> lord > > > > > > >>>> of Aries. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th > > > > house > > > > > > >> is > > > > > > >>> most > > > > > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most > > benefic > > > > > > > house > > > > > > >>> and > > > > > > >>>> 8th house > > > > > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is > > considered as > > > > > > >> most > > > > > > >>>> benefic and > > > > > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest > > power > > > > > > >>> planet > > > > > > >>>> as per KAS > > > > > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya > > sthan > > > > > > >> for > > > > > > >>>> 8th). > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our > > feelings > > > > > > > to > > > > > > >>> death > > > > > > >>>> of > > > > > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being > > said, > > > > > > > that > > > > > > >>> is > > > > > > >>>> our > > > > > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th > > > > house > > > > > > >>> and > > > > > > >>>> 3rd house, > > > > > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed > > > > as " dushtana " > > > > > > >>> sthan. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. > > Only > > > > > > > 6th > > > > > > >>>> house. Also > > > > > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya > > for > > > > > > > 1st, > > > > > > >>> 9th, > > > > > > >>>> is karak > > > > > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as > > well. So > > > > > > > for > > > > > > >>>> these house > > > > > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > > > > > >>> perspective. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house > > ruled > > > > by > > > > > > >>> them > > > > > > >>>> get > > > > > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits > > also > > > > gets > > > > > > >>>> enhanced. So > > > > > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > > > > > spiritual > > > > > > >>>> plane and > > > > > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that > > perspective > > > > > > >> how > > > > > > >>> it > > > > > > >>>> can be > > > > > > >>>>> bad? > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify > > them > > > > > > > as > > > > > > >>> good > > > > > > >>>> or bad > > > > > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint > > the > > > > > > >>> sushtana > > > > > > >>>> and > > > > > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> _____ > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> @ <% > > 40> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> [@ <% > > > > 40> > > > > > > >>> ] On > > > > > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > > > > >>>>> @ <% > > 40> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > > > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > > > > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > > > > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > > > > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > > > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > > > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > > > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > > > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > > > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > > > > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > > > > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > > > > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > > > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > > > > > >>>>> friends. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> best wishes, > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> @ <% > > > > 40> > > > > > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th > > house > > > > > > > is > > > > > > >>> karak > > > > > > >>>>> for 1st > > > > > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of > > death. How > > > > > > >> it > > > > > > >>> can > > > > > > >>>>> be bad? > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for > > income. It > > > > > > >> is > > > > > > >>> 6th > > > > > > >>>>> from 3rd > > > > > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > > > > > >>> upachaya > > > > > > >>>>> sthan for > > > > > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > > > > > Transit > > > > > > >> is > > > > > > >>> for > > > > > > >>>>>> environment. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which > > is > > > > > > > not > > > > > > >>>>> followed in > > > > > > >>>>>> KAS. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in > > total > > > > > > > then > > > > > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > > > > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and > > Sa > > > > > > > is > > > > > > >>> going > > > > > > >>>>> over a > > > > > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > > > > > meaning. > > > > > > >> Sa > > > > > > >>>>> and Ju will > > > > > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > > > > > degree > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > >>>>> transit of > > > > > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you > > can > > > > > > > look > > > > > > >>> up > > > > > > >>>>> KAS list > > > > > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > > > > > Kalprush > > > > > > >>> chart > > > > > > >>>>> has more > > > > > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > > > > > house > > > > > > >>> is > > > > > > >>>>> good. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > >>> ca> ca> > > > > > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> _____ > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> @ <% > > > > 40> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> [@ <% > > > > 40> > > > > > > >>>>> ] On > > > > > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > > > > >>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> Okay, > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > > > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > > > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > > > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > > > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > > > > >>>>>> either)? > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> regards, > > > > > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> @ <% > > > > > > > 40> > > > > > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > > > > > Krishna > > > > > > >>> and > > > > > > >>>>> his > > > > > > >>>>>> 2 > > > > > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in > > Sag > > > > > > >>>>> compared > > > > > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > > > > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > > > > > >> Pisces > > > > > > >>> as > > > > > > >>>>>> compared to > > > > > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for > > you > > > > > > >> and > > > > > > >>> for > > > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > > > > >>>> relatives, > > > > > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > > > > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > > > > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > > > >>> ca > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> _____ > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > > > > > 40> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> [@ <% > > > > > > > 40> > > > > > > >>>>>> ] On > > > > > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > > > > > 40> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > > > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > > > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> regards, > > > > > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > > > > > contribute > > > > > > >> in > > > > > > >>>>>> Pisces > > > > > > >>>>>>> as > > > > > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > > > > > please > > > > > > >>> use > > > > > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > > > > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > > > > > see. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > >> ca> ca> > > > > > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > > > > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > > > > >>>> ca> ca> > > > > > > >>>>> ca > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> [@ <% > > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > > >>>>>>> ] On > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > > > > > >> 40> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > > > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Lalit well - I really do not know - if you had opportunity to interact with Ash. But if I am permitted to say something then - I must say that your judgement is not correct. If you want to assess Ash from his web contents then it may be your choice. My experience with him speaks, very high of him. He is extremely knowledgeable and skilled astrologer. and unlike most internet jyotishis/writers - he is not the one - who do fixing jyotish. Of course - you are free to formulate and express / press your opinion. I am just stating my experience with him. regards / Prafulla Gang http://www.vedic-jyotish.net Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ > > litsol > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:29:12 -0000 > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, If > this is the same Ash. > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done a > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is what > i saw. > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too deep > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses and > 9 planets. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji >> >> Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> http://www.vedic-jyotish.net >> Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web >> >> No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! >> >> ************************************************ >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 >>> >>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>> >>> Dear Mahalakshmi ji, >>> >>> Yes, >>> Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get >>> out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement >>> in these, even in face of provocations. >>> I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which >>> I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to >>> lack of available spare periods, but intend to go >>> through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, >>> whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending >>> Mails " Cheers " . >>> He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. >>> >>> Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he >>> had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), >>> thats all. >>> >>> regards, >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> , " rama gopalakrishnan " >>> <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: >>>> >>>> dear bhaskar bhai >>>> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately >>> time >>>> events in the life of jataks. >>>> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a >>>> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no >>> hangups >>>> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse >>>> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person >>> to >>>> say the least. >>>> >>>> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period >>> of >>>> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which >>> i >>>> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a >>>> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events >>>> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come > to >>>> conclutions. >>>> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system > to >>>> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this >>> humble >>>> guru. >>>> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the >>>> technique if one can time events then he is a successful >>> practioner >>>> of this divine science. >>>> best wishes >>>> mahalakshmi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM >>>>> >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Lalitji, >>>>> >>>>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. >>>>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see >>>>> from his observations. I am confident he >>>>> knows the good and the Ugly side >>>>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just >>>>> spoken of the malefic side in context. >>>>> >>>>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. >>>>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. >>>>> The 6th if strong is good for >>>>> a Business man, as it gives good returns >>>>> through transactions made, through payments >>>>> recieved, through loans processed. >>>>> >>>>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business >>>>> men suffer from the common ill health problems >>>>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. >>>>> >>>>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. >>>>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. >>>>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money >>>>> but he may also have side by side worries to >>>>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money >>>>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, >>>>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. >>>>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman >>>>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk >>>>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious >>>>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. >>>>> One may have a strong well placed and well known >>>>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest >>>>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to >>>>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay >>>>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. >>>>> >>>>> These are all part of the game one plays. >>>>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One >>>>> cannot have one side of the planet and not >>>>> be touched by the other side. To know >>>>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the >>>>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the >>>>> pains of solitude. >>>>> >>>>> All planets have both the sides. Which side >>>>> it is going to manifest more depends on >>>>> individual to individual, with regards to the >>>>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the >>>>> rewards granted. This game of finding what >>>>> results one person will see more in his Life >>>>> from these planets, is what is reading the >>>>> Janma Kundli,all about. >>>>> >>>>> We are all palying this game. Some play it >>>>> better, some not so better. Some play it at >>>>> times better, some play it at times ,not >>>>> so better. These indications too are present in >>>>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, have gone off track, >>>>> in a conversation mode. >>>>> >>>>> best wishes, >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>>>> @ <%40> >>>>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is >>>> most >>>>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co-workers, >>>>> thus a >>>>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get >>>> care >>>>>> from the co-workers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have u checked this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses >>>> that >>>>> it >>>>>> should give in 6'th house. >>>>>> >>>>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some >>> struggle, >>>>> see, >>>>>> how 80% people are living in india. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> Lalit. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as >>>>> per >>>>>> KAS WS) >>>>>>> then person recovers quickly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone >>>> to >>>>>> sickness. >>>>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is >>> how >>>>> I >>>>>> approach >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for >>>> 6th >>>>> and >>>>>> 1st both >>>>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to >>>>>> Individuality >>>>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for >>> 6th >>>>>> house so good >>>>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power >>> as >>>>> lord >>>>>> of Aries. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house >>>> is >>>>> most >>>>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic >>> house >>>>> and >>>>>> 8th house >>>>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as >>>> most >>>>>> benefic and >>>>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power >>>>> planet >>>>>> as per KAS >>>>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan >>>> for >>>>>> 8th). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings >>> to >>>>> death >>>>>> of >>>>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, >>> that >>>>> is >>>>>> our >>>>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house >>>>> and >>>>>> 3rd house, >>>>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " >>>>> sthan. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only >>> 6th >>>>>> house. Also >>>>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for >>> 1st, >>>>> 9th, >>>>>> is karak >>>>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So >>> for >>>>>> these house >>>>>>> its to be considered more keenly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different >>>>> perspective. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by >>>>> them >>>>>> get >>>>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets >>>>>> enhanced. So >>>>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the >>> spiritual >>>>>> plane and >>>>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective >>>> how >>>>> it >>>>>> can be >>>>>>> bad? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them >>> as >>>>> good >>>>>> or bad >>>>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the >>>>> sushtana >>>>>> and >>>>>>> dushtana and trik etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>> >>>>>> [@ <%40> >>>>> ] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM >>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>> >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Ash, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. >>>>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical >>>>>>> body, is the houses considered so. >>>>>>> It also depends how each one would work >>>>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one >>>>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and >>>>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th >>>>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, >>>>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses >>>>>>> and the planets are just the doorways >>>>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished >>>>>>> business and get going to another zone...... >>>>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house >>>>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close >>>>>>> friends. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> best wishes, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house >>> is >>>>> karak >>>>>>> for 1st >>>>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How >>>> it >>>>> can >>>>>>> be bad? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are so many things to consider. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It >>>> is >>>>> 6th >>>>>>> from 3rd >>>>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is >>>>> upachaya >>>>>>> sthan for >>>>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th >>> house. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. >>> Transit >>>> is >>>>> for >>>>>>>> environment. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is >>> not >>>>>>> followed in >>>>>>>> KAS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total >>> then >>>>>>> karakwa denoted >>>>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa >>> is >>>>> going >>>>>>> over a >>>>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other >>> meaning. >>>> Sa >>>>>>> and Ju will >>>>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even >>> degree >>>>> of >>>>>>> transit of >>>>>>>> Ju and Sa. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can >>> look >>>>> up >>>>>>> KAS list >>>>>>>> where such things has been solved. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in >>> Kalprush >>>>> chart >>>>>>> has more >>>>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd >>> house >>>>> is >>>>>>> good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> >>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [@ <%40> >>>>>>> ] On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM >>>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Ash, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Okay, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) >>>>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? >>>>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) >>>>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? >>>>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in >>>>>>>> either)? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @ <% >>> 40> >>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, >>> Krishna >>>>> and >>>>>>> his >>>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag >>>>>>> compared >>>>>>>> to Pisces >>>>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in >>>> Pisces >>>>> as >>>>>>>> compared to >>>>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you >>>> and >>>>> for >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close >>>>>> relatives, >>>>>>>> Ju has more >>>>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >>>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> >>>>> ca >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> @ <% >>> 40> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [@ <% >>> 40> >>>>>>>> ] On >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM >>>>>>>>> @ <% >>> 40> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Ash, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. >>>>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for >>>>>>>>> Jupiter. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>> 40> >>>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju >>> contribute >>>> in >>>>>>>> Pisces >>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts >>> please >>>>> use >>>>>>>>> Varharamira's >>>>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to >>> see. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> >>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>> ca >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>> 40> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [@ <% >>>> 40> >>>>>>>>> ] On >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM >>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>> 40> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and >>>>>>>>>> anymore ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> let us know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Bhaskar ji I am of the firm belief that - any technique works well in the hands of experts. So is KAS in the hands of Ash. KAS is very logical and consistent application of rules; it may sound a bit deviation from classics, but I have observed few traditionalists strictly (and successfully) following the same rationale on 8th / 12th lords etc (in line with KAS). Trust me - I am not talking of the astrologers who do fixing jyotish.. regards / Prafulla Gang http://www.vedic-jyotish.net Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ > > bhaskar_jyotish > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:12:25 -0000 > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > Dear Ashwini ji, > > Yes Ashtakvarga is one of the best methods of > prediction and also timing the events. We are not > doubting this method. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > >> I think that method of prediction with ashtakavarga one of the best >> method. I don't know this method for now, but my friend who is >> Jyotishi with that method give 100% correct prediction when is > learn >> this method of prediction. That is what I know of ashtakavarga in >> predictive technic og Jyotish from second hand. >> >> regards, >> ashwini >>> > > > > , " ashwinikumaras " > <ashwinikumaras wrote: >> >> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> >> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Lalitji, >>> >>> I disagree with infighting between us members >>> without strong provocations. We must stay >>> united by all means, at least try to. >>> >>> On the other hand I agree with certain >>> points in Your mail, but in general and >>> without reference to anyone in particular. >>> >>> 1) Postmartem may not suggest prowess in >>> predicting for future. >>> >>> 2) People jumping to divisonal charts or >>> ashtakvargas without knowing the results of >>> 9 Planets placed in 12 houses and signs. >>> >>> 3) Branding of any Vedic Parashar system >>> of prediction to ones own name. >>> >>> The above are personal views,with no reference >>> to anyone please.I always wish free speech >>> but at same time live as a family member >>> within our community. I do not advocate >>> differences between us astrologers, except >>> perhaps on principles, rules and ways of >>> prognostications, which is but natural. >>> >>> We all should be so closely knit otherwise, >>> that if 1 astrologer is in need of any kind of >>> help, then 100 others should be ready to stand and >>> offer the help. This is my vision >>> for us astrologers and it pains me when we >>> have infighting. >>> >>> best wishes, >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear mahalakshmiJi, >>>> >>>> I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there > and >>>> found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial > justification, >>> If >>>> this is the same Ash. >>>> >>>> Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has > done >>> a >>>> good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this > is >>> what >>>> i saw. >>>> >>>> In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a > native >>>> horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump > too >>> deep >>>> in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as > per >>>> their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 > houses >>> and >>>> 9 planets. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> Lalit. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Bhaskar ji >>>>> >>>>> Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most >>> forum >>>> astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, > I >>>> admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. >>>>> >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>> http://www.vedic-jyotish.net >>>>> Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web >>>>> >>>>> No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! >>>>> >>>>> ************************************************ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>>> Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 >>>>>> >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Mahalakshmi ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, >>>>>> Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get >>>>>> out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement >>>>>> in these, even in face of provocations. >>>>>> I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which >>>>>> I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to >>>>>> lack of available spare periods, but intend to go >>>>>> through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, >>>>>> whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending >>>>>> Mails " Cheers " . >>>>>> He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. >>>>>> >>>>>> Personally i do not know him, just read once long back > that he >>>>>> had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), >>>>>> thats all. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> , " rama gopalakrishnan " >>>>>> <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> dear bhaskar bhai >>>>>>> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to > accurately >>>>>> time >>>>>>> events in the life of jataks. >>>>>>> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have >>> developed a >>>>>>> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with > no >>>>>> hangups >>>>>>> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or > adverse >>>>>>> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of > the >>> person >>>>>> to >>>>>>> say the least. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the >>> period >>>>>> of >>>>>>> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year > period >>> which >>>>>> i >>>>>>> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does > deserve a >>>>>>> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time > events >>>>>>> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use > to >>> come >>>> to >>>>>>> conclutions. >>>>>>> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique >>> system >>>> to >>>>>>> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of > this >>>>>> humble >>>>>>> guru. >>>>>>> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, > whatever >>> the >>>>>>> technique if one can time events then he is a successful >>>>>> practioner >>>>>>> of this divine science. >>>>>>> best wishes >>>>>>> mahalakshmi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Lalitji, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. >>>>>>>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see >>>>>>>> from his observations. I am confident he >>>>>>>> knows the good and the Ugly side >>>>>>>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just >>>>>>>> spoken of the malefic side in context. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. >>>>>>>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. >>>>>>>> The 6th if strong is good for >>>>>>>> a Business man, as it gives good returns >>>>>>>> through transactions made, through payments >>>>>>>> recieved, through loans processed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business >>>>>>>> men suffer from the common ill health problems >>>>>>>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. >>>>>>>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. >>>>>>>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money >>>>>>>> but he may also have side by side worries to >>>>>>>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money >>>>>>>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, >>>>>>>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. >>>>>>>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman >>>>>>>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk >>>>>>>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious >>>>>>>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. >>>>>>>> One may have a strong well placed and well known >>>>>>>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest >>>>>>>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to >>>>>>>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay >>>>>>>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> These are all part of the game one plays. >>>>>>>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One >>>>>>>> cannot have one side of the planet and not >>>>>>>> be touched by the other side. To know >>>>>>>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the >>>>>>>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the >>>>>>>> pains of solitude. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All planets have both the sides. Which side >>>>>>>> it is going to manifest more depends on >>>>>>>> individual to individual, with regards to the >>>>>>>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the >>>>>>>> rewards granted. This game of finding what >>>>>>>> results one person will see more in his Life >>>>>>>> from these planets, is what is reading the >>>>>>>> Janma Kundli,all about. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We are all palying this game. Some play it >>>>>>>> better, some not so better. Some play it at >>>>>>>> times better, some play it at times ,not >>>>>>>> so better. These indications too are present in >>>>>>>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, have gone off track, >>>>>>>> in a conversation mode. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> best wishes, >>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @ <% > 40> >>>>>>>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th > house >>> is >>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- >>> workers, >>>>>>>> thus a >>>>>>>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, > u get >>>>>>> care >>>>>>>>> from the co-workers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have u checked this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some >>> diseasses >>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> should give in 6'th house. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some >>>>>> struggle, >>>>>>>> see, >>>>>>>>> how 80% people are living in india. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>> Lalit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> @ <% > 40> >>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is > good >>> (as >>>>>>>> per >>>>>>>>> KAS WS) >>>>>>>>>> then person recovers quickly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more >>> prone >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> sickness. >>>>>>>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. > That is >>>>>> how >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> approach >>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural > karak for >>>>>>> 6th >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> 1st both >>>>>>>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related > to >>>>>>>>> Individuality >>>>>>>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also > for >>>>>> 6th >>>>>>>>> house so good >>>>>>>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery > power >>>>>> as >>>>>>>> lord >>>>>>>>> of Aries. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th >>> house >>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most > benefic >>>>>> house >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> 8th house >>>>>>>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is > considered as >>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>> benefic and >>>>>>>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest > power >>>>>>>> planet >>>>>>>>> as per KAS >>>>>>>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya > sthan >>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> 8th). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our > feelings >>>>>> to >>>>>>>> death >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being > said, >>>>>> that >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th >>> house >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> 3rd house, >>>>>>>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed >>> as " dushtana " >>>>>>>> sthan. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. > Only >>>>>> 6th >>>>>>>>> house. Also >>>>>>>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya > for >>>>>> 1st, >>>>>>>> 9th, >>>>>>>>> is karak >>>>>>>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as > well. So >>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> these house >>>>>>>>>> its to be considered more keenly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different >>>>>>>> perspective. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house > ruled >>> by >>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits > also >>> gets >>>>>>>>> enhanced. So >>>>>>>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the >>>>>> spiritual >>>>>>>>> plane and >>>>>>>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that > perspective >>>>>>> how >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> can be >>>>>>>>>> bad? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify > them >>>>>> as >>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>> or bad >>>>>>>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint > the >>>>>>>> sushtana >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> dushtana and trik etc. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> @ <% > 40> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [@ <% >>> 40> >>>>>>>> ] On >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM >>>>>>>>>> @ <% > 40> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Ash, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. >>>>>>>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical >>>>>>>>>> body, is the houses considered so. >>>>>>>>>> It also depends how each one would work >>>>>>>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one >>>>>>>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and >>>>>>>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th >>>>>>>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, >>>>>>>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses >>>>>>>>>> and the planets are just the doorways >>>>>>>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished >>>>>>>>>> business and get going to another zone...... >>>>>>>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house >>>>>>>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close >>>>>>>>>> friends. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> best wishes, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>> 40> >>>>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th > house >>>>>> is >>>>>>>> karak >>>>>>>>>> for 1st >>>>>>>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of > death. How >>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>> be bad? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are so many things to consider. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for > income. It >>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> 6th >>>>>>>>>> from 3rd >>>>>>>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is >>>>>>>> upachaya >>>>>>>>>> sthan for >>>>>>>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th >>>>>> house. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. >>>>>> Transit >>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> environment. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which > is >>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> followed in >>>>>>>>>>> KAS. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in > total >>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>> karakwa denoted >>>>>>>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and > Sa >>>>>> is >>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>> over a >>>>>>>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other >>>>>> meaning. >>>>>>> Sa >>>>>>>>>> and Ju will >>>>>>>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even >>>>>> degree >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> transit of >>>>>>>>>>> Ju and Sa. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you > can >>>>>> look >>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>> KAS list >>>>>>>>>>> where such things has been solved. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in >>>>>> Kalprush >>>>>>>> chart >>>>>>>>>> has more >>>>>>>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd >>>>>> house >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> good. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> >>>>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>> 40> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [@ <% >>> 40> >>>>>>>>>> ] On >>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM >>>>>>>>>>> @ <% > 40> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Ash, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Okay, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) >>>>>>>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? >>>>>>>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) >>>>>>>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? >>>>>>>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in >>>>>>>>>>> either)? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, >>>>>> Krishna >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in > Sag >>>>>>>>>> compared >>>>>>>>>>> to Pisces >>>>>>>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in >>>>>>> Pisces >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>> compared to >>>>>>>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for > you >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close >>>>>>>>> relatives, >>>>>>>>>>> Ju has more >>>>>>>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >>>>>>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> >>>>>>>> ca >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [@ <% >>>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>>> ] On >>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Ash, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. >>>>>>>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for >>>>>>>>>>>> Jupiter. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju >>>>>> contribute >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> Pisces >>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts >>>>>> please >>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>>>> Varharamira's >>>>>>>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to >>>>>> see. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> >>>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >>>>>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>>>>> ca >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [@ <% >>>>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>>>> ] On >>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and >>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> let us know. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Lalit Ji Greetings With Due course of time you will change your thoughts about Ash and KAS. Sometimes truth is very obvious and we are not able to find it out..... Thanks Jagdish litsol <litsol wrote: Dear mahalakshmiJi, I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, If this is the same Ash. Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done a good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is what i saw. In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too deep in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses and 9 planets. regards, Lalit. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > ************************************************ > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > Yes, > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > Mails " Cheers " . > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > thats all. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > >> > >> dear bhaskar bhai > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > time > >> events in the life of jataks. > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > hangups > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > > to > >> say the least. > >> > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > > of > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > > i > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come to > >> conclutions. > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system to > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > humble > >> guru. > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > practioner > >> of this divine science. > >> best wishes > >> mahalakshmi > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >> On > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > >>> > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear Lalitji, > >>> > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > >>> > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > >>> through transactions made, through payments > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > >>> > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > >>> > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > >>> > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > >>> pains of solitude. > >>> > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > >>> > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > >>> > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > >>> in a conversation mode. > >>> > >>> best wishes, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> @ <%40> > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > >> most > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co-workers, > >>> thus a > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > >> care > >>>> from the co-workers. > >>>> > >>>> Have u checked this. > >>>> > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > >> that > >>> it > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > >>>> > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > struggle, > >>> see, > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > >>>> > >>>> regards, > >>>> Lalit. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> @ <%40> > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > >>> per > >>>> KAS WS) > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > >> to > >>>> sickness. > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > how > >>> I > >>>> approach > >>>>> it. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > >> 6th > >>> and > >>>> 1st both > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > >>>> Individuality > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > 6th > >>>> house so good > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > as > >>> lord > >>>> of Aries. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > >> is > >>> most > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > house > >>> and > >>>> 8th house > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > >> most > >>>> benefic and > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > >>> planet > >>>> as per KAS > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > >> for > >>>> 8th). > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > to > >>> death > >>>> of > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > that > >>> is > >>>> our > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > >>> and > >>>> 3rd house, > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > >>> sthan. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > 6th > >>>> house. Also > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > 1st, > >>> 9th, > >>>> is karak > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > for > >>>> these house > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > >>> perspective. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > >>> them > >>>> get > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > >>>> enhanced. So > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > spiritual > >>>> plane and > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > >> how > >>> it > >>>> can be > >>>>> bad? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > as > >>> good > >>>> or bad > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > >>> sushtana > >>>> and > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>> > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >> http://www.ashtro. > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > >>>>> > >>>>> _____ > >>>>> > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>> > >>>> [@ <%40> > >>> ] On > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>> > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>> > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > >>>>> friends. > >>>>> > >>>>> best wishes, > >>>>> > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > is > >>> karak > >>>>> for 1st > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > >> it > >>> can > >>>>> be bad? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > >> is > >>> 6th > >>>>> from 3rd > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > >>> upachaya > >>>>> sthan for > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > house. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > Transit > >> is > >>> for > >>>>>> environment. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > not > >>>>> followed in > >>>>>> KAS. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > then > >>>>> karakwa denoted > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > is > >>> going > >>>>> over a > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > meaning. > >> Sa > >>>>> and Ju will > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > degree > >>> of > >>>>> transit of > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > look > >>> up > >>>>> KAS list > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > Kalprush > >>> chart > >>>>> has more > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > house > >>> is > >>>>> good. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >>> ca> ca> > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _____ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> > >>>>> [@ <%40> > >>>>> ] On > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > >>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>> > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Okay, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > >>>>>> either)? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards, > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > Krishna > >>> and > >>>>> his > >>>>>> 2 > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > >>>>> compared > >>>>>> to Pisces > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > >> Pisces > >>> as > >>>>>> compared to > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > >> and > >>> for > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > >>>> relatives, > >>>>>> Ju has more > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > >>> ca > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [@ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > >>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>> > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > contribute > >> in > >>>>>> Pisces > >>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > please > >>> use > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > see. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >> ca> ca> > >>>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>> ca> ca> > >>>>> ca > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [@ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > >>>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> let us know. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Prafullaji, Oh yes. Agreed. I believe Ash is one of the best astrologers around, though never had my chart read through him, but when many good people say so, I do not take time to form my belief so. I have no doubts about Ash whether I have checked his methods of approach or not does not matter to me. All that matters is what collective knowledge reveals is the right knowledge. And we have collective consensus on Ash. I hope in any of my previous mails I have no where doubted about his astrological acumen, because there was and is no doubt whatsoever. And I am no one to judge. have no right to do so, too. Deviations from classics do not matter much, as long as they lead one closer to the truth. As to the 8th and 12th rationale I too have a difference to the normal understood one. For me the 12th house is one of the best houses, if one knows how to make use of it, to his advantage. Same with the 8th house which according to me is the most mystic house and most misunderstood. Unfortunately we set compartments and pre-concieved definitions about the houses, and then do not wish to come out of the same. The 6th house is also one of the best houses, I do not understand why it is called the house of disease. Instead we should be positive and call it the house of health. Only if it is blemished would it cause ill health. And that too most of the times it waits for the old age to creep in a person, and then shows these effects. We should certainly be more compassionate about these commonly known evil houses. Unless the 6th is strong how can a person earn good commissions and Brokerage ? Unless the 12th is strong how can a person be called a " Marwadi Seth " One should know what house to activate and how, before they actually start or force themselves on the native. The 12th house before it throws one on bed or seclusion, if a person himself segregates himself to such conditions and atmosphere and then reap the sweet fruits of the 12th house , would be doing a service to the 12th house. there are so many matters of the 12th, the 6th and the 8th which one could precepitate, to his advantage , that the dasha or the antardasha would become too small, if one has to play all these options. My Guruji used to always tell me that check the transits and play along the significations of these houses through which these planets move, and then your Life would be in consonance wuth the motion and the ideas of the planets. sorry the mail has become a little long. regards, Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > I am of the firm belief that - any technique works well in the hands of experts. So is KAS in the hands of Ash. > > KAS is very logical and consistent application of rules; it may sound a bit deviation from classics, but I have observed few traditionalists strictly (and successfully) following the same rationale on 8th / 12th lords etc (in line with KAS). Trust me - I am not talking of the astrologers who do fixing jyotish.. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > ************************************************ > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:12:25 -0000 > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > Dear Ashwini ji, > > > > Yes Ashtakvarga is one of the best methods of > > prediction and also timing the events. We are not > > doubting this method. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > >> I think that method of prediction with ashtakavarga one of the best > >> method. I don't know this method for now, but my friend who is > >> Jyotishi with that method give 100% correct prediction when is > > learn > >> this method of prediction. That is what I know of ashtakavarga in > >> predictive technic og Jyotish from second hand. > >> > >> regards, > >> ashwini > >>> > > > > > > > > , " ashwinikumaras " > > <ashwinikumaras@> wrote: > >> > >> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear Lalitji, > >>> > >>> I disagree with infighting between us members > >>> without strong provocations. We must stay > >>> united by all means, at least try to. > >>> > >>> On the other hand I agree with certain > >>> points in Your mail, but in general and > >>> without reference to anyone in particular. > >>> > >>> 1) Postmartem may not suggest prowess in > >>> predicting for future. > >>> > >>> 2) People jumping to divisonal charts or > >>> ashtakvargas without knowing the results of > >>> 9 Planets placed in 12 houses and signs. > >>> > >>> 3) Branding of any Vedic Parashar system > >>> of prediction to ones own name. > >>> > >>> The above are personal views,with no reference > >>> to anyone please.I always wish free speech > >>> but at same time live as a family member > >>> within our community. I do not advocate > >>> differences between us astrologers, except > >>> perhaps on principles, rules and ways of > >>> prognostications, which is but natural. > >>> > >>> We all should be so closely knit otherwise, > >>> that if 1 astrologer is in need of any kind of > >>> help, then 100 others should be ready to stand and > >>> offer the help. This is my vision > >>> for us astrologers and it pains me when we > >>> have infighting. > >>> > >>> best wishes, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear mahalakshmiJi, > >>>> > >>>> I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there > > and > >>>> found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial > > justification, > >>> If > >>>> this is the same Ash. > >>>> > >>>> Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has > > done > >>> a > >>>> good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this > > is > >>> what > >>>> i saw. > >>>> > >>>> In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a > > native > >>>> horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump > > too > >>> deep > >>>> in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as > > per > >>>> their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 > > houses > >>> and > >>>> 9 planets. > >>>> > >>>> regards, > >>>> Lalit. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar ji > >>>>> > >>>>> Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most > >>> forum > >>>> astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, > > I > >>>> admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > >>>>> > >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>> http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > >>>>> Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > >>>>> > >>>>> No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > >>>>> > >>>>> ************************************************ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>>>>> Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yes, > >>>>>> Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > >>>>>> out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > >>>>>> in these, even in face of provocations. > >>>>>> I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > >>>>>> I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > >>>>>> lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > >>>>>> through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > >>>>>> whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > >>>>>> Mails " Cheers " . > >>>>>> He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Personally i do not know him, just read once long back > > that he > >>>>>> had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > >>>>>> thats all. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards, > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> , " rama gopalakrishnan " > >>>>>> <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> dear bhaskar bhai > >>>>>>> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to > > accurately > >>>>>> time > >>>>>>> events in the life of jataks. > >>>>>>> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have > >>> developed a > >>>>>>> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with > > no > >>>>>> hangups > >>>>>>> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or > > adverse > >>>>>>> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of > > the > >>> person > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>> say the least. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the > >>> period > >>>>>> of > >>>>>>> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year > > period > >>> which > >>>>>> i > >>>>>>> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does > > deserve a > >>>>>>> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time > > events > >>>>>>> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use > > to > >>> come > >>>> to > >>>>>>> conclutions. > >>>>>>> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique > >>> system > >>>> to > >>>>>>> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of > > this > >>>>>> humble > >>>>>>> guru. > >>>>>>> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, > > whatever > >>> the > >>>>>>> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > >>>>>> practioner > >>>>>>> of this divine science. > >>>>>>> best wishes > >>>>>>> mahalakshmi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Lalitji, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > >>>>>>>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > >>>>>>>> from his observations. I am confident he > >>>>>>>> knows the good and the Ugly side > >>>>>>>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > >>>>>>>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > >>>>>>>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > >>>>>>>> The 6th if strong is good for > >>>>>>>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > >>>>>>>> through transactions made, through payments > >>>>>>>> recieved, through loans processed. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > >>>>>>>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > >>>>>>>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > >>>>>>>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > >>>>>>>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > >>>>>>>> but he may also have side by side worries to > >>>>>>>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > >>>>>>>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > >>>>>>>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > >>>>>>>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > >>>>>>>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > >>>>>>>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > >>>>>>>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > >>>>>>>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > >>>>>>>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > >>>>>>>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > >>>>>>>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > >>>>>>>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> These are all part of the game one plays. > >>>>>>>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > >>>>>>>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > >>>>>>>> be touched by the other side. To know > >>>>>>>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > >>>>>>>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > >>>>>>>> pains of solitude. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > >>>>>>>> it is going to manifest more depends on > >>>>>>>> individual to individual, with regards to the > >>>>>>>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > >>>>>>>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > >>>>>>>> results one person will see more in his Life > >>>>>>>> from these planets, is what is reading the > >>>>>>>> Janma Kundli,all about. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > >>>>>>>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > >>>>>>>> times better, some play it at times ,not > >>>>>>>> so better. These indications too are present in > >>>>>>>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sorry, have gone off track, > >>>>>>>> in a conversation mode. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> best wishes, > >>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>>>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th > > house > >>> is > >>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- > >>> workers, > >>>>>>>> thus a > >>>>>>>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, > > u get > >>>>>>> care > >>>>>>>>> from the co-workers. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Have u checked this. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some > >>> diseasses > >>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>> should give in 6'th house. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > >>>>>> struggle, > >>>>>>>> see, > >>>>>>>>> how 80% people are living in india. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>>> Lalit. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is > > good > >>> (as > >>>>>>>> per > >>>>>>>>> KAS WS) > >>>>>>>>>> then person recovers quickly. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more > >>> prone > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> sickness. > >>>>>>>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. > > That is > >>>>>> how > >>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>> approach > >>>>>>>>>> it. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural > > karak for > >>>>>>> 6th > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> 1st both > >>>>>>>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related > > to > >>>>>>>>> Individuality > >>>>>>>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also > > for > >>>>>> 6th > >>>>>>>>> house so good > >>>>>>>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery > > power > >>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> lord > >>>>>>>>> of Aries. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th > >>> house > >>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most > > benefic > >>>>>> house > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> 8th house > >>>>>>>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is > > considered as > >>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>>> benefic and > >>>>>>>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest > > power > >>>>>>>> planet > >>>>>>>>> as per KAS > >>>>>>>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya > > sthan > >>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> 8th). > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our > > feelings > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> death > >>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being > > said, > >>>>>> that > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>> our > >>>>>>>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th > >>> house > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> 3rd house, > >>>>>>>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed > >>> as " dushtana " > >>>>>>>> sthan. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. > > Only > >>>>>> 6th > >>>>>>>>> house. Also > >>>>>>>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya > > for > >>>>>> 1st, > >>>>>>>> 9th, > >>>>>>>>> is karak > >>>>>>>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as > > well. So > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> these house > >>>>>>>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > >>>>>>>> perspective. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house > > ruled > >>> by > >>>>>>>> them > >>>>>>>>> get > >>>>>>>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits > > also > >>> gets > >>>>>>>>> enhanced. So > >>>>>>>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > >>>>>> spiritual > >>>>>>>>> plane and > >>>>>>>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that > > perspective > >>>>>>> how > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>> can be > >>>>>>>>>> bad? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify > > them > >>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> good > >>>>>>>>> or bad > >>>>>>>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint > > the > >>>>>>>> sushtana > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> [@ <% > >>> 40> > >>>>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > >>>>>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > >>>>>>>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > >>>>>>>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > >>>>>>>>>> It also depends how each one would work > >>>>>>>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > >>>>>>>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > >>>>>>>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > >>>>>>>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > >>>>>>>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > >>>>>>>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > >>>>>>>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > >>>>>>>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > >>>>>>>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > >>>>>>>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > >>>>>>>>>> friends. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> best wishes, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> @ <% > >>> 40> > >>>>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th > > house > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> karak > >>>>>>>>>> for 1st > >>>>>>>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of > > death. How > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>>>> be bad? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for > > income. It > >>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> 6th > >>>>>>>>>> from 3rd > >>>>>>>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > >>>>>>>> upachaya > >>>>>>>>>> sthan for > >>>>>>>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > >>>>>> house. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > >>>>>> Transit > >>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>> environment. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which > > is > >>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>> followed in > >>>>>>>>>>> KAS. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in > > total > >>>>>> then > >>>>>>>>>> karakwa denoted > >>>>>>>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and > > Sa > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> going > >>>>>>>>>> over a > >>>>>>>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > >>>>>> meaning. > >>>>>>> Sa > >>>>>>>>>> and Ju will > >>>>>>>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > >>>>>> degree > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> transit of > >>>>>>>>>>> Ju and Sa. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you > > can > >>>>>> look > >>>>>>>> up > >>>>>>>>>> KAS list > >>>>>>>>>>> where such things has been solved. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > >>>>>> Kalprush > >>>>>>>> chart > >>>>>>>>>> has more > >>>>>>>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > >>>>>> house > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> good. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >>>>>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> @ <% > >>> 40> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> [@ <% > >>> 40> > >>>>>>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > >>>>>>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Okay, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > >>>>>>>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > >>>>>>>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > >>>>>>>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > >>>>>>>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > >>>>>>>>>>> either)? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> @ <% > >>>>>> 40> > >>>>>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > >>>>>> Krishna > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> his > >>>>>>>>>>> 2 > >>>>>>>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in > > Sag > >>>>>>>>>> compared > >>>>>>>>>>> to Pisces > >>>>>>>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > >>>>>>> Pisces > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>> compared to > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for > > you > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > >>>>>>>>> relatives, > >>>>>>>>>>> Ju has more > >>>>>>>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>>>>>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > >>>>>>>> ca > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> @ <% > >>>>>> 40> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> [@ <% > >>>>>> 40> > >>>>>>>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > >>>>>>>>>>>> @ <% > >>>>>> 40> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jupiter. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> @ <% > >>>>>>> 40> > >>>>>>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > >>>>>> contribute > >>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>> Pisces > >>>>>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > >>>>>> please > >>>>>>>> use > >>>>>>>>>>>> Varharamira's > >>>>>>>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > >>>>>> see. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >>>>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>>>>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>>>>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>>>>>> ca > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> @ <% > >>>>>>> 40> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [@ <% > >>>>>>> 40> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > >>>>>>>>>>>>> @ <% > >>>>>>> 40> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore ? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let us know. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Can you do a test right now ..., Let's check immediately. Can u date any 2 events ? regards, Lalit. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Lalit > > well - I really do not know - if you had opportunity to interact with Ash. But if I am permitted to say something then - I must say that your judgement is not correct. > > If you want to assess Ash from his web contents then it may be your choice. My experience with him speaks, very high of him. He is extremely knowledgeable and skilled astrologer. and unlike most internet jyotishis/writers - he is not the one - who do fixing jyotish. > > Of course - you are free to formulate and express / press your opinion. I am just stating my experience with him. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > ************************************************ > > > > > > litsol > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:29:12 -0000 > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, If > > this is the same Ash. > > > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done a > > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is what > > i saw. > > > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too deep > > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses and > > 9 planets. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji > >> > >> Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum > > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > >> Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > >> > >> No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > >> > >> ************************************************ > >> > >> > >>> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>> Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>> > >>> Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > >>> > >>> Yes, > >>> Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > >>> out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > >>> in these, even in face of provocations. > >>> I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > >>> I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > >>> lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > >>> through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > >>> whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > >>> Mails " Cheers " . > >>> He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > >>> > >>> Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > >>> had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > >>> thats all. > >>> > >>> regards, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> , " rama gopalakrishnan " > >>> <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> dear bhaskar bhai > >>>> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > >>> time > >>>> events in the life of jataks. > >>>> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > >>>> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > >>> hangups > >>>> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > >>>> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > >>> to > >>>> say the least. > >>>> > >>>> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > >>> of > >>>> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > >>> i > >>>> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > >>>> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > >>>> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come > > to > >>>> conclutions. > >>>> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system > > to > >>>> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > >>> humble > >>>> guru. > >>>> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > >>>> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > >>> practioner > >>>> of this divine science. > >>>> best wishes > >>>> mahalakshmi > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>> On > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > >>>>> > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Lalitji, > >>>>> > >>>>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > >>>>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > >>>>> from his observations. I am confident he > >>>>> knows the good and the Ugly side > >>>>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > >>>>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > >>>>> > >>>>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > >>>>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > >>>>> The 6th if strong is good for > >>>>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > >>>>> through transactions made, through payments > >>>>> recieved, through loans processed. > >>>>> > >>>>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > >>>>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > >>>>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > >>>>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > >>>>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > >>>>> but he may also have side by side worries to > >>>>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > >>>>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > >>>>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > >>>>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > >>>>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > >>>>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > >>>>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > >>>>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > >>>>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > >>>>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > >>>>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > >>>>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > >>>>> > >>>>> These are all part of the game one plays. > >>>>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > >>>>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > >>>>> be touched by the other side. To know > >>>>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > >>>>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > >>>>> pains of solitude. > >>>>> > >>>>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > >>>>> it is going to manifest more depends on > >>>>> individual to individual, with regards to the > >>>>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > >>>>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > >>>>> results one person will see more in his Life > >>>>> from these planets, is what is reading the > >>>>> Janma Kundli,all about. > >>>>> > >>>>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > >>>>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > >>>>> times better, some play it at times ,not > >>>>> so better. These indications too are present in > >>>>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry, have gone off track, > >>>>> in a conversation mode. > >>>>> > >>>>> best wishes, > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > >>>> most > >>>>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- workers, > >>>>> thus a > >>>>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > >>>> care > >>>>>> from the co-workers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Have u checked this. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > >>>> that > >>>>> it > >>>>>> should give in 6'th house. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > >>> struggle, > >>>>> see, > >>>>>> how 80% people are living in india. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards, > >>>>>> Lalit. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > >>>>> per > >>>>>> KAS WS) > >>>>>>> then person recovers quickly. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > >>>> to > >>>>>> sickness. > >>>>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > >>> how > >>>>> I > >>>>>> approach > >>>>>>> it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > >>>> 6th > >>>>> and > >>>>>> 1st both > >>>>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > >>>>>> Individuality > >>>>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > >>> 6th > >>>>>> house so good > >>>>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > >>> as > >>>>> lord > >>>>>> of Aries. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > >>>> is > >>>>> most > >>>>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > >>> house > >>>>> and > >>>>>> 8th house > >>>>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > >>>> most > >>>>>> benefic and > >>>>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > >>>>> planet > >>>>>> as per KAS > >>>>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > >>>> for > >>>>>> 8th). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > >>> to > >>>>> death > >>>>>> of > >>>>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > >>> that > >>>>> is > >>>>>> our > >>>>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > >>>>> and > >>>>>> 3rd house, > >>>>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > >>>>> sthan. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > >>> 6th > >>>>>> house. Also > >>>>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > >>> 1st, > >>>>> 9th, > >>>>>> is karak > >>>>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > >>> for > >>>>>> these house > >>>>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > >>>>> perspective. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > >>>>> them > >>>>>> get > >>>>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > >>>>>> enhanced. So > >>>>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > >>> spiritual > >>>>>> plane and > >>>>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > >>>> how > >>>>> it > >>>>>> can be > >>>>>>> bad? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > >>> as > >>>>> good > >>>>>> or bad > >>>>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > >>>>> sushtana > >>>>>> and > >>>>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> > >>>>>> [@ <%40> > >>>>> ] On > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > >>>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > >>>>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > >>>>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > >>>>>>> It also depends how each one would work > >>>>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > >>>>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > >>>>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > >>>>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > >>>>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > >>>>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > >>>>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > >>>>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > >>>>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > >>>>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > >>>>>>> friends. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> best wishes, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > >>> is > >>>>> karak > >>>>>>> for 1st > >>>>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > >>>> it > >>>>> can > >>>>>>> be bad? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > >>>> is > >>>>> 6th > >>>>>>> from 3rd > >>>>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > >>>>> upachaya > >>>>>>> sthan for > >>>>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > >>> house. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > >>> Transit > >>>> is > >>>>> for > >>>>>>>> environment. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > >>> not > >>>>>>> followed in > >>>>>>>> KAS. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > >>> then > >>>>>>> karakwa denoted > >>>>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > >>> is > >>>>> going > >>>>>>> over a > >>>>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > >>> meaning. > >>>> Sa > >>>>>>> and Ju will > >>>>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > >>> degree > >>>>> of > >>>>>>> transit of > >>>>>>>> Ju and Sa. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > >>> look > >>>>> up > >>>>>>> KAS list > >>>>>>>> where such things has been solved. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > >>> Kalprush > >>>>> chart > >>>>>>> has more > >>>>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > >>> house > >>>>> is > >>>>>>> good. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [@ <% 40> > >>>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > >>>>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Okay, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > >>>>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > >>>>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > >>>>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > >>>>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > >>>>>>>> either)? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ <% > >>> 40> > >>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > >>> Krishna > >>>>> and > >>>>>>> his > >>>>>>>> 2 > >>>>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > >>>>>>> compared > >>>>>>>> to Pisces > >>>>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > >>>> Pisces > >>>>> as > >>>>>>>> compared to > >>>>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > >>>> and > >>>>> for > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > >>>>>> relatives, > >>>>>>>> Ju has more > >>>>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > >>>>> ca > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> @ <% > >>> 40> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> [@ <% > >>> 40> > >>>>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > >>>>>>>>> @ <% > >>> 40> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > >>>>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > >>>>>>>>> Jupiter. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> @ <% > >>>> 40> > >>>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > >>> contribute > >>>> in > >>>>>>>> Pisces > >>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > >>> please > >>>>> use > >>>>>>>>> Varharamira's > >>>>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > >>> see. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>>> ca > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> @ <% > >>>> 40> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> [@ <% > >>>> 40> > >>>>>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > >>>>>>>>>> @ <% > >>>> 40> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > >>>>>>>>>> anymore ? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> let us know. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Lalit, May be I look stupid member on this forum ..but may like to ask - test what? and why? But bigger question - Do I have to prove " you " anything for " my " jyotish journey ? and if yes - then since when I ought to prove you? In my past 19+ years of exploration (may be primitive one) - so far, I did not feel obliged to do that - even as handicapped....May be Governments have changed now or are we back to Emergency Era !! As I said - you are entitled for your judgement ..but why are you making anyone " subject " for that. Let that be your opinion - right or wrong !! regards / Prafulla Gang http://www.vedic-jyotish.net Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! ************************************************ > > litsol > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:16:31 -0000 > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > Can you do a test right now ..., Let's check immediately. > > Can u date any 2 events ? > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Lalit >> >> well - I really do not know - if you had opportunity to interact > with Ash. But if I am permitted to say something then - I must say > that your judgement is not correct. >> >> If you want to assess Ash from his web contents then it may be your > choice. My experience with him speaks, very high of him. He is > extremely knowledgeable and skilled astrologer. and unlike most > internet jyotishis/writers - he is not the one - who do fixing > jyotish. >> >> Of course - you are free to formulate and express / press your > opinion. I am just stating my experience with him. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> http://www.vedic-jyotish.net >> Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web >> >> No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! >> >> ************************************************ >> >> >>> >>> litsol >>> Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:29:12 -0000 >>> >>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>> >>> Dear mahalakshmiJi, >>> >>> I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and >>> found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, > If >>> this is the same Ash. >>> >>> Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has > done a >>> good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is > what >>> i saw. >>> >>> In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native >>> horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too > deep >>> in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per >>> their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses > and >>> 9 planets. >>> >>> regards, >>> Lalit. >>> >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Bhaskar ji >>>> >>>> Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum >>> astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I >>> admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> http://www.vedic-jyotish.net >>>> Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web >>>> >>>> No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! >>>> >>>> ************************************************ >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> bhaskar_jyotish@ >>>>> Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>> >>>>> Dear Mahalakshmi ji, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, >>>>> Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get >>>>> out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement >>>>> in these, even in face of provocations. >>>>> I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which >>>>> I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to >>>>> lack of available spare periods, but intend to go >>>>> through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, >>>>> whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending >>>>> Mails " Cheers " . >>>>> He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. >>>>> >>>>> Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he >>>>> had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), >>>>> thats all. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> , " rama gopalakrishnan " >>>>> <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> dear bhaskar bhai >>>>>> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately >>>>> time >>>>>> events in the life of jataks. >>>>>> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed > a >>>>>> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no >>>>> hangups >>>>>> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse >>>>>> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the > person >>>>> to >>>>>> say the least. >>>>>> >>>>>> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the > period >>>>> of >>>>>> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period > which >>>>> i >>>>>> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a >>>>>> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events >>>>>> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come >>> to >>>>>> conclutions. >>>>>> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system >>> to >>>>>> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this >>>>> humble >>>>>> guru. >>>>>> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the >>>>>> technique if one can time events then he is a successful >>>>> practioner >>>>>> of this divine science. >>>>>> best wishes >>>>>> mahalakshmi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Lalitji, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. >>>>>>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see >>>>>>> from his observations. I am confident he >>>>>>> knows the good and the Ugly side >>>>>>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just >>>>>>> spoken of the malefic side in context. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. >>>>>>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. >>>>>>> The 6th if strong is good for >>>>>>> a Business man, as it gives good returns >>>>>>> through transactions made, through payments >>>>>>> recieved, through loans processed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business >>>>>>> men suffer from the common ill health problems >>>>>>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. >>>>>>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. >>>>>>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money >>>>>>> but he may also have side by side worries to >>>>>>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money >>>>>>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, >>>>>>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. >>>>>>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman >>>>>>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk >>>>>>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious >>>>>>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. >>>>>>> One may have a strong well placed and well known >>>>>>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest >>>>>>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to >>>>>>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay >>>>>>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These are all part of the game one plays. >>>>>>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One >>>>>>> cannot have one side of the planet and not >>>>>>> be touched by the other side. To know >>>>>>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the >>>>>>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the >>>>>>> pains of solitude. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All planets have both the sides. Which side >>>>>>> it is going to manifest more depends on >>>>>>> individual to individual, with regards to the >>>>>>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the >>>>>>> rewards granted. This game of finding what >>>>>>> results one person will see more in his Life >>>>>>> from these planets, is what is reading the >>>>>>> Janma Kundli,all about. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are all palying this game. Some play it >>>>>>> better, some not so better. Some play it at >>>>>>> times better, some play it at times ,not >>>>>>> so better. These indications too are present in >>>>>>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, have gone off track, >>>>>>> in a conversation mode. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> best wishes, >>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is >>>>>> most >>>>>>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- > workers, >>>>>>> thus a >>>>>>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get >>>>>> care >>>>>>>> from the co-workers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have u checked this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses >>>>>> that >>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> should give in 6'th house. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some >>>>> struggle, >>>>>>> see, >>>>>>>> how 80% people are living in india. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>> Lalit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as >>>>>>> per >>>>>>>> KAS WS) >>>>>>>>> then person recovers quickly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone >>>>>> to >>>>>>>> sickness. >>>>>>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is >>>>> how >>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> approach >>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for >>>>>> 6th >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> 1st both >>>>>>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to >>>>>>>> Individuality >>>>>>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for >>>>> 6th >>>>>>>> house so good >>>>>>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power >>>>> as >>>>>>> lord >>>>>>>> of Aries. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house >>>>>> is >>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic >>>>> house >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> 8th house >>>>>>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as >>>>>> most >>>>>>>> benefic and >>>>>>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power >>>>>>> planet >>>>>>>> as per KAS >>>>>>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan >>>>>> for >>>>>>>> 8th). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings >>>>> to >>>>>>> death >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, >>>>> that >>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> 3rd house, >>>>>>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " >>>>>>> sthan. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only >>>>> 6th >>>>>>>> house. Also >>>>>>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for >>>>> 1st, >>>>>>> 9th, >>>>>>>> is karak >>>>>>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So >>>>> for >>>>>>>> these house >>>>>>>>> its to be considered more keenly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different >>>>>>> perspective. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by >>>>>>> them >>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets >>>>>>>> enhanced. So >>>>>>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the >>>>> spiritual >>>>>>>> plane and >>>>>>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective >>>>>> how >>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> can be >>>>>>>>> bad? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them >>>>> as >>>>>>> good >>>>>>>> or bad >>>>>>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the >>>>>>> sushtana >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> dushtana and trik etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [@ <%40> >>>>>>> ] On >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM >>>>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Ash, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. >>>>>>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical >>>>>>>>> body, is the houses considered so. >>>>>>>>> It also depends how each one would work >>>>>>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one >>>>>>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and >>>>>>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th >>>>>>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, >>>>>>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses >>>>>>>>> and the planets are just the doorways >>>>>>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished >>>>>>>>> business and get going to another zone...... >>>>>>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house >>>>>>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close >>>>>>>>> friends. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> best wishes, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house >>>>> is >>>>>>> karak >>>>>>>>> for 1st >>>>>>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How >>>>>> it >>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> be bad? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There are so many things to consider. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It >>>>>> is >>>>>>> 6th >>>>>>>>> from 3rd >>>>>>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is >>>>>>> upachaya >>>>>>>>> sthan for >>>>>>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th >>>>> house. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. >>>>> Transit >>>>>> is >>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> environment. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is >>>>> not >>>>>>>>> followed in >>>>>>>>>> KAS. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total >>>>> then >>>>>>>>> karakwa denoted >>>>>>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa >>>>> is >>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>> over a >>>>>>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other >>>>> meaning. >>>>>> Sa >>>>>>>>> and Ju will >>>>>>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even >>>>> degree >>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> transit of >>>>>>>>>> Ju and Sa. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can >>>>> look >>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>> KAS list >>>>>>>>>> where such things has been solved. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in >>>>> Kalprush >>>>>>> chart >>>>>>>>> has more >>>>>>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd >>>>> house >>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> good. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> >>>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [@ <% > 40> >>>>>>>>> ] On >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM >>>>>>>>>> @ <%40> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Ash, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Okay, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) >>>>>>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? >>>>>>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) >>>>>>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? >>>>>>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in >>>>>>>>>> either)? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, >>>>> Krishna >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag >>>>>>>>> compared >>>>>>>>>> to Pisces >>>>>>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in >>>>>> Pisces >>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>> compared to >>>>>>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you >>>>>> and >>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close >>>>>>>> relatives, >>>>>>>>>> Ju has more >>>>>>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >>>>>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> >>>>>>> ca >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [@ <% >>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>> ] On >>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM >>>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Ash, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. >>>>>>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for >>>>>>>>>>> Jupiter. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju >>>>> contribute >>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> Pisces >>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts >>>>> please >>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>>> Varharamira's >>>>>>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to >>>>> see. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers !!! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> >>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> >>>>>>>> ca> ca> >>>>>>>>> ca >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _____ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [@ <% >>>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>>> ] On >>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar >>>>>>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> @ <% >>>>>> 40> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and >>>>>>>>>>>> anymore ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> let us know. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 dear lalit bhai what you point out is very correct about command over 12 houses and 9 planets! i shall try to brush up my command over the basics as you have suggested!! all techniques use these very same basics to predict. raste alag hi sahi. manzil toh ek hi hai. KAS is indeed a unique system yet it does deliver results is my very personal opinion. as in astrology so in music we have 12 basic notes and any number of ragas and raginis born out of permutations and combinations. the notes and the ragas may the same yet when a person sings a raga it touches your soul but when others sing the same raga it somehow does not make any impact. i am open to learning any system provided it helps me further my own predictive skills. even to reject any system one has to learn it well, try and then discard, if it does not work. ash is doing KAS sincerely well and not the post mortem kind of astrology imho. may the goddess bless us all with more patience to be more tolerant towards others. mahalakshmi litsol <litsol wrote: Dear mahalakshmiJi, I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, If this is the same Ash. Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done a good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is what i saw. In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too deep in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses and 9 planets. regards, Lalit. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > ************************************************ > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > Yes, > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > Mails " Cheers " . > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > thats all. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > >> > >> dear bhaskar bhai > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > time > >> events in the life of jataks. > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > hangups > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > > to > >> say the least. > >> > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > > of > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > > i > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come to > >> conclutions. > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system to > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > humble > >> guru. > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > practioner > >> of this divine science. > >> best wishes > >> mahalakshmi > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >> On > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > >>> > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear Lalitji, > >>> > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > >>> > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > >>> through transactions made, through payments > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > >>> > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > >>> > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > >>> > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > >>> pains of solitude. > >>> > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > >>> > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > >>> > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > >>> in a conversation mode. > >>> > >>> best wishes, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> @ <%40> > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > >> most > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co-workers, > >>> thus a > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > >> care > >>>> from the co-workers. > >>>> > >>>> Have u checked this. > >>>> > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > >> that > >>> it > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > >>>> > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > struggle, > >>> see, > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > >>>> > >>>> regards, > >>>> Lalit. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> @ <%40> > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > >>> per > >>>> KAS WS) > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > >> to > >>>> sickness. > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > how > >>> I > >>>> approach > >>>>> it. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > >> 6th > >>> and > >>>> 1st both > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > >>>> Individuality > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > 6th > >>>> house so good > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > as > >>> lord > >>>> of Aries. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > >> is > >>> most > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > house > >>> and > >>>> 8th house > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > >> most > >>>> benefic and > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > >>> planet > >>>> as per KAS > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > >> for > >>>> 8th). > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > to > >>> death > >>>> of > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > that > >>> is > >>>> our > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > >>> and > >>>> 3rd house, > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > >>> sthan. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > 6th > >>>> house. Also > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > 1st, > >>> 9th, > >>>> is karak > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > for > >>>> these house > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > >>> perspective. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > >>> them > >>>> get > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > >>>> enhanced. So > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > spiritual > >>>> plane and > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > >> how > >>> it > >>>> can be > >>>>> bad? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > as > >>> good > >>>> or bad > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > >>> sushtana > >>>> and > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>> > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >> http://www.ashtro. > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > >>>>> > >>>>> _____ > >>>>> > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>> > >>>> [@ <%40> > >>> ] On > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>> > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>> > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > >>>>> friends. > >>>>> > >>>>> best wishes, > >>>>> > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > is > >>> karak > >>>>> for 1st > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > >> it > >>> can > >>>>> be bad? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > >> is > >>> 6th > >>>>> from 3rd > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > >>> upachaya > >>>>> sthan for > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > house. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > Transit > >> is > >>> for > >>>>>> environment. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > not > >>>>> followed in > >>>>>> KAS. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > then > >>>>> karakwa denoted > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > is > >>> going > >>>>> over a > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > meaning. > >> Sa > >>>>> and Ju will > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > degree > >>> of > >>>>> transit of > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > look > >>> up > >>>>> KAS list > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > Kalprush > >>> chart > >>>>> has more > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > house > >>> is > >>>>> good. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >>> ca> ca> > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _____ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> > >>>>> [@ <%40> > >>>>> ] On > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > >>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>> > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Okay, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > >>>>>> either)? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards, > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > Krishna > >>> and > >>>>> his > >>>>>> 2 > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > >>>>> compared > >>>>>> to Pisces > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > >> Pisces > >>> as > >>>>>> compared to > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > >> and > >>> for > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > >>>> relatives, > >>>>>> Ju has more > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > >>> ca > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [@ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > >>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>> > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > contribute > >> in > >>>>>> Pisces > >>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > please > >>> use > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > see. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >> ca> ca> > >>>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>>> ca> ca> > >>>>> ca > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [@ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > >>>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> let us know. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Lalit, I think you have not read the articles that I have given on my website correctly or u might have read them in a rush. There are 3 articles on my website on predictions and 1 on the launching of my website. All 3 of them were predictions I have made BEFORE and they are not post-mortem as u have claimed. All those can be found in . I do know I have much more to learn and it will take me a life time or several life times. In the mean time, knowledge grows by sharing, and I try to share the little I have learnt and also learn from my fellow astrologers. Atleast I find myself lucky to have so many platforms to discuss with so many different astrologers from so many different schools of thought, and we get so many charts to solve and practice on these forums. I do not have much time for futile arguments to change someone’s opinion about me or about anything as it’s their god given right. It’s not my job nor am I interested in it. My interest is only to learn and share what little I have learnt and my opinion on things which may or may not be always correct and I am open to learn. That is what my teacher has taught me and the value of it realize. Life and time is too short and so much to learn. About your question to me about Mars in 6th house and if I have studied it or done my homework, let me tell u one thing, In my chart have Mars in 6th house. :-) Lets get on with our aim of learning and discussing astrology and not personalities, because after even spending a life time with a person one learns something new, and u have not even known me for a day. :-) Cheers !!! Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca _____ On Behalf Of litsol Wednesday January 9, 2008 6:29 AM Re: How many Leos here ? Dear mahalakshmiJi, I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, If this is the same Ash. Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done a good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is what i saw. In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too deep in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses and 9 planets. regards, Lalit. @ <%40> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > http://www.vedic- <http://www.vedic-jyotish.net> jyotish.net > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > ************************************************ > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > @ <%40> > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > Yes, > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > Mails " Cheers " . > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > thats all. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > @ <%40> , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > >> > >> dear bhaskar bhai > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > time > >> events in the life of jataks. > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > hangups > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > > to > >> say the least. > >> > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > > of > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > > i > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come to > >> conclutions. > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system to > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > humble > >> guru. > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > practioner > >> of this divine science. > >> best wishes > >> mahalakshmi > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> @ <%40> > >> [@ <%40> ] On > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > >>> @ <%40> > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear Lalitji, > >>> > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > >>> > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > >>> through transactions made, through payments > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > >>> > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > >>> > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > >>> > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > >>> pains of solitude. > >>> > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > >>> > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > >>> > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > >>> in a conversation mode. > >>> > >>> best wishes, > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> @ <%40> > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > >> most > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co-workers, > >>> thus a > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > >> care > >>>> from the co-workers. > >>>> > >>>> Have u checked this. > >>>> > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > >> that > >>> it > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > >>>> > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > struggle, > >>> see, > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > >>>> > >>>> regards, > >>>> Lalit. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> @ <%40> > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > >>> per > >>>> KAS WS) > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > >> to > >>>> sickness. > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > how > >>> I > >>>> approach > >>>>> it. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > >> 6th > >>> and > >>>> 1st both > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > >>>> Individuality > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > 6th > >>>> house so good > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > as > >>> lord > >>>> of Aries. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > >> is > >>> most > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > house > >>> and > >>>> 8th house > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > >> most > >>>> benefic and > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > >>> planet > >>>> as per KAS > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > >> for > >>>> 8th). > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > to > >>> death > >>>> of > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > that > >>> is > >>>> our > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > >>> and > >>>> 3rd house, > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > >>> sthan. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > 6th > >>>> house. Also > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > 1st, > >>> 9th, > >>>> is karak > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > for > >>>> these house > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > >>> perspective. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > >>> them > >>>> get > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > >>>> enhanced. So > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > spiritual > >>>> plane and > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > >> how > >>> it > >>>> can be > >>>>> bad? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > as > >>> good > >>>> or bad > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > >>> sushtana > >>>> and > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>> > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > >> http://www.ashtro. > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > >>>>> > >>>>> _____ > >>>>> > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>> > >>>> [@ <%40> > >>> ] On > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>> > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>> > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > >>>>> friends. > >>>>> > >>>>> best wishes, > >>>>> > >>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>> > >>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > is > >>> karak > >>>>> for 1st > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > >> it > >>> can > >>>>> be bad? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > >> is > >>> 6th > >>>>> from 3rd > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > >>> upachaya > >>>>> sthan for > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > house. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > Transit > >> is > >>> for > >>>>>> environment. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > not > >>>>> followed in > >>>>>> KAS. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > then > >>>>> karakwa denoted > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > is > >>> going > >>>>> over a > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > meaning. > >> Sa > >>>>> and Ju will > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > degree > >>> of > >>>>> transit of > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > look > >>> up > >>>>> KAS list > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > Kalprush > >>> chart > >>>>> has more > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > house > >>> is > >>>>> good. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >>> ca> ca> > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _____ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>>> > >>>>> [@ <%40> > >>>>> ] On > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > >>>>>> @ <%40> > >>>> > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Okay, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > >>>>>> either)? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards, > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > Krishna > >>> and > >>>>> his > >>>>>> 2 > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > >>>>> compared > >>>>>> to Pisces > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > >> Pisces > >>> as > >>>>>> compared to > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > >> and > >>> for > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > >>>> relatives, > >>>>>> Ju has more > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > >>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> > >>> ca > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [@ <% > > 40> > >>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > >>>>>>> @ <% > > 40> > >>>>> > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > contribute > >> in > >>>>>> Pisces > >>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > please > >>> use > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > see. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > >> ca> ca> > >>>>>> ca> ca> > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > >>>> ca> ca> > >>>>> ca > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _____ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [@ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>>> ] On > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > >>>>>>>> @ <% > >> 40> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> let us know. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Bhaskar, I have done my schooling at Green Lawns School Worli and I also grew up living at Worli Seaface in Mumbai. I shall be soon coming to Mumbai. Cheers !!! Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca _____ On Behalf Of Bhaskar Wednesday January 9, 2008 2:29 AM Re: How many Leos here ? Dear Mahalakshmi ji, Yes, Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement in these, even in face of provocations. I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to lack of available spare periods, but intend to go through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending Mails " Cheers " . He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), thats all. regards, Bhaskar. @ <%40> , " rama gopalakrishnan " <astromahaluxmi wrote: > > dear bhaskar bhai > i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately time > events in the life of jataks. > for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no hangups > preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person to > say the least. > > last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period of > death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which i > can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come to > conclutions. > much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system to > learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this humble > guru. > it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > technique if one can time events then he is a successful practioner > of this divine science. > best wishes > mahalakshmi > > > @ <%40> > [@ <%40> ] On > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > @ <%40> > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji, > > > > Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > from his observations. I am confident he > > knows the good and the Ugly side > > nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > > The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > The 6th if strong is good for > > a Business man, as it gives good returns > > through transactions made, through payments > > recieved, through loans processed. > > > > We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > men suffer from the common ill health problems > > like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > > Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > but he may also have side by side worries to > > contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > One may have a strong well placed and well known > > Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > > These are all part of the game one plays. > > Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > cannot have one side of the planet and not > > be touched by the other side. To know > > pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > pains of solitude. > > > > All planets have both the sides. Which side > > it is going to manifest more depends on > > individual to individual, with regards to the > > punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > rewards granted. This game of finding what > > results one person will see more in his Life > > from these planets, is what is reading the > > Janma Kundli,all about. > > > > We are all palying this game. Some play it > > better, some not so better. Some play it at > > times better, some play it at times ,not > > so better. These indications too are present in > > the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > > Sorry, have gone off track, > > in a conversation mode. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > @ <%40> > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > most > > > malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co-workers, > > thus a > > > ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > care > > > from the co-workers. > > > > > > Have u checked this. > > > > > > Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > that > > it > > > should give in 6'th house. > > > > > > If rest is fine, he will make property also after some struggle, > > see, > > > how 80% people are living in india. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > > per > > > KAS WS) > > > > then person recovers quickly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > to > > > sickness. > > > > 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is how > > I > > > approach > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > 6th > > and > > > 1st both > > > > become very powerful and gives better results related to > > > Individuality > > > > (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for 6th > > > house so good > > > > resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power as > > lord > > > of Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > is > > most > > > > malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic house > > and > > > 8th house > > > > is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > most > > > benefic and > > > > the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > planet > > > as per KAS > > > > WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > for > > > 8th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings to > > death > > > of > > > > closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, that > > is > > > our > > > > feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > > and > > > 3rd house, > > > > i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > > sthan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only 6th > > > house. Also > > > > for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for 1st, > > 9th, > > > is karak > > > > for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So for > > > these house > > > > its to be considered more keenly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > perspective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > > them > > > get > > > > enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > > > enhanced. So > > > > 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the spiritual > > > plane and > > > > most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > how > > it > > > can be > > > > bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them as > > good > > > or bad > > > > based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > sushtana > > > and > > > > dushtana and trik etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > [@ <%40> > > ] On > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > > It is all during the stay in this physical > > > > body, is the houses considered so. > > > > It also depends how each one would work > > > > for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > > likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > > no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > > and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > > otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > > and the planets are just the doorways > > > > and the means to finish the unfinished > > > > business and get going to another zone...... > > > > I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > > of health,and not disease, with my close > > > > friends. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house is > > karak > > > > for 1st > > > > > house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > it > > can > > > > be bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are so many things to consider. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > is > > 6th > > > > from 3rd > > > > > house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > upachaya > > > > sthan for > > > > > 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it will try to give good result for these house. Transit > is > > for > > > > > environment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is not > > > > followed in > > > > > KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total then > > > > karakwa denoted > > > > > by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa is > > going > > > > over a > > > > > house where it has 0 points then it has some other meaning. > Sa > > > > and Ju will > > > > > become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even degree > > of > > > > transit of > > > > > Ju and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can look > > up > > > > KAS list > > > > > where such things has been solved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in Kalprush > > chart > > > > has more > > > > > power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd house > > is > > > > good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > > > [@ <%40> > > > > ] On > > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Okay, > > > > > > > > > > But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > > > in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > > > Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > > > with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > > > > > > > > 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > > > 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > > > either)? > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, Krishna > > and > > > > his > > > > > 2 > > > > > > relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > > > compared > > > > > to Pisces > > > > > > and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > Pisces > > as > > > > > compared to > > > > > > Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > and > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > relatives, > > > > > Ju has more > > > > > > power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > ca> ca> > > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> > > ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > > > > > > [@ <% 40> > > > > > ] On > > > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > > > > I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% > 40> > > > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju contribute > in > > > > > Pisces > > > > > > as > > > > > > > compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts please > > use > > > > > > Varharamira's > > > > > > > SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to see. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > ca> ca> > > > > > ca> ca> > > > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > ca> ca> > > > > ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% > 40> > > > > > > > > > > > > [@ <% > 40> > > > > > > ] On > > > > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > > > > > @ <% > 40> > > > > > > > > > > > > How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > > > > > anymore ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let us know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Dear Ash, If you have the time,it would be a pleasure to meet you whenever you come. I stay just opposite Century bazaar,on the Main Road. regards, Bhaskar. , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > I have done my schooling at Green Lawns School Worli and I also grew up > living at Worli Seaface in Mumbai. > > I shall be soon coming to Mumbai. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > On > Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday January 9, 2008 2:29 AM > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > Yes, > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > in these, even in face of provocations. > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > Mails " Cheers " . > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > thats all. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > @ <%40> > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > > > dear bhaskar bhai > > i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > time > > events in the life of jataks. > > for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > > swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > hangups > > preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > > comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > to > > say the least. > > > > last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > of > > death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > i > > can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > > besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come to > > conclutions. > > much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system to > > learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > humble > > guru. > > it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > > technique if one can time events then he is a successful > practioner > > of this divine science. > > best wishes > > mahalakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > [@ <%40> > ] On > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > @ <%40> > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lalitji, > > > > > > Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > > I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > > from his observations. I am confident he > > > knows the good and the Ugly side > > > nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > > spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > > > > The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > > It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > > The 6th if strong is good for > > > a Business man, as it gives good returns > > > through transactions made, through payments > > > recieved, through loans processed. > > > > > > We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > > men suffer from the common ill health problems > > > like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > > > > Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > > Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > > One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > > but he may also have side by side worries to > > > contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > > withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > > but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > > One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > > and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > > of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > > dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > > One may have a strong well placed and well known > > > Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > > for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > > come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > > as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > > > > These are all part of the game one plays. > > > Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > > cannot have one side of the planet and not > > > be touched by the other side. To know > > > pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > > meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > > pains of solitude. > > > > > > All planets have both the sides. Which side > > > it is going to manifest more depends on > > > individual to individual, with regards to the > > > punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > > rewards granted. This game of finding what > > > results one person will see more in his Life > > > from these planets, is what is reading the > > > Janma Kundli,all about. > > > > > > We are all palying this game. Some play it > > > better, some not so better. Some play it at > > > times better, some play it at times ,not > > > so better. These indications too are present in > > > the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > > > > Sorry, have gone off track, > > > in a conversation mode. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > > most > > > > malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- workers, > > > thus a > > > > ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > > care > > > > from the co-workers. > > > > > > > > Have u checked this. > > > > > > > > Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > > that > > > it > > > > should give in 6'th house. > > > > > > > > If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > struggle, > > > see, > > > > how 80% people are living in india. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > > > per > > > > KAS WS) > > > > > then person recovers quickly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > > to > > > > sickness. > > > > > 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > how > > > I > > > > approach > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > > 6th > > > and > > > > 1st both > > > > > become very powerful and gives better results related to > > > > Individuality > > > > > (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > 6th > > > > house so good > > > > > resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > as > > > lord > > > > of Aries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > > is > > > most > > > > > malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > house > > > and > > > > 8th house > > > > > is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > most > > > > benefic and > > > > > the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > > planet > > > > as per KAS > > > > > WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > > for > > > > 8th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > to > > > death > > > > of > > > > > closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > that > > > is > > > > our > > > > > feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > > > and > > > > 3rd house, > > > > > i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > > > sthan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > 6th > > > > house. Also > > > > > for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > 1st, > > > 9th, > > > > is karak > > > > > for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > for > > > > these house > > > > > its to be considered more keenly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > > perspective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > > > them > > > > get > > > > > enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > > > > enhanced. So > > > > > 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > spiritual > > > > plane and > > > > > most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > > how > > > it > > > > can be > > > > > bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > as > > > good > > > > or bad > > > > > based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > > sushtana > > > > and > > > > > dushtana and trik etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > > [@ <%40> > > > ] On > > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > > > @ <%40> > > > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > > > It is all during the stay in this physical > > > > > body, is the houses considered so. > > > > > It also depends how each one would work > > > > > for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > > > likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > > > no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > > > and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > > > otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > > > and the planets are just the doorways > > > > > and the means to finish the unfinished > > > > > business and get going to another zone...... > > > > > I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > > > of health,and not disease, with my close > > > > > friends. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > is > > > karak > > > > > for 1st > > > > > > house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > > it > > > can > > > > > be bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are so many things to consider. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > > is > > > 6th > > > > > from 3rd > > > > > > house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > > upachaya > > > > > sthan for > > > > > > 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it will try to give good result for these house. > Transit > > is > > > for > > > > > > environment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > not > > > > > followed in > > > > > > KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > then > > > > > karakwa denoted > > > > > > by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > is > > > going > > > > > over a > > > > > > house where it has 0 points then it has some other > meaning. > > Sa > > > > > and Ju will > > > > > > become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > degree > > > of > > > > > transit of > > > > > > Ju and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > look > > > up > > > > > KAS list > > > > > > where such things has been solved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > Kalprush > > > chart > > > > > has more > > > > > > power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > house > > > is > > > > > good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > ca> ca> > > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > > > > > > [@ <% 40> > > > > > ] On > > > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > > > > @ <% 40> > > > > > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, > > > > > > > > > > > > But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > > > > in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > > > > Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > > > > with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > > > > 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > > > > either)? > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% > 40> > > > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > Krishna > > > and > > > > > his > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > > > > compared > > > > > > to Pisces > > > > > > > and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > Pisces > > > as > > > > > > compared to > > > > > > > Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > and > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > > relatives, > > > > > > Ju has more > > > > > > > power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > > ca> ca> > > > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> > > > ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% > 40> > > > > > > > > > > > > [@ <% > 40> > > > > > > ] On > > > > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > > > > > @ <% > 40> > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > > > > > I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > > > > > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% > > 40> > > > > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > contribute > > in > > > > > > Pisces > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > please > > > use > > > > > > > Varharamira's > > > > > > > > SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > see. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > ca> ca> > > > > > > ca> ca> > > > > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > ca> ca> > > > > > ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ <% > > 40> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [@ <% > > 40> > > > > > > > ] On > > > > > > > > Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > > > > > > @ <% > > 40> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > > > > > > anymore ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let us know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Dear Mr. Chawan, I had a plain mind untill i saw Ash's postings and articles, i read them and realized the huge gap there. doing and using same vedic astrology's principles and presentting with a different brand name, where is the philosophy, where are their principles. as used vedic principles are true, sometimes, something comes true but that is again partly. Ash has said that he has god Mars in 6'th, he doesnt know that I too have got Mars in Leo in 6'th along with Sun. Now the question is, a person, who gives counselling to thousands why doesnt understand such a simple placement, this hurts me, pls. change ur attitude towards this divine jyotish. Let's help grow it with honesty. People are dependant on you, be fair to them. I have no rigidness in my mind, when things get improve, i change my thoughts, who will not. regards, Lalit , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Dear Lalit Ji > > Greetings > > With Due course of time you will change your thoughts about Ash and KAS. > > Sometimes truth is very obvious and we are not able to find it out..... > > Thanks > > Jagdish > > litsol <litsol wrote: > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, If > this is the same Ash. > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done a > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is what > i saw. > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too deep > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses and > 9 planets. > > regards, > Lalit. > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > Yes, > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > thats all. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > >> > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > > time > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > hangups > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > > > to > > >> say the least. > > >> > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > > > of > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > > > i > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come > to > > >> conclutions. > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system > to > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > humble > > >> guru. > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > practioner > > >> of this divine science. > > >> best wishes > > >> mahalakshmi > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> On > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > >>> > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > >>> > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > >>> > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > >>> > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > >>> > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > >>> > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > >>> pains of solitude. > > >>> > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > >>> > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > >>> > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > >>> > > >>> best wishes, > > >>> Bhaskar. > > >>> > > >>> @ <%40> > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > > >> most > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- workers, > > >>> thus a > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > > >> care > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > >>>> > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > >>>> > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > > >> that > > >>> it > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > >>>> > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > struggle, > > >>> see, > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > >>>> > > >>>> regards, > > >>>> Lalit. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> @ <%40> > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > > >>> per > > >>>> KAS WS) > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > > >> to > > >>>> sickness. > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > > how > > >>> I > > >>>> approach > > >>>>> it. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > > >> 6th > > >>> and > > >>>> 1st both > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > >>>> Individuality > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > > 6th > > >>>> house so good > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > > as > > >>> lord > > >>>> of Aries. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > > >> is > > >>> most > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > house > > >>> and > > >>>> 8th house > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > >> most > > >>>> benefic and > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > >>> planet > > >>>> as per KAS > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > > >> for > > >>>> 8th). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > > to > > >>> death > > >>>> of > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > that > > >>> is > > >>>> our > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > > >>> and > > >>>> 3rd house, > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > > >>> sthan. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > 6th > > >>>> house. Also > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > 1st, > > >>> 9th, > > >>>> is karak > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > > for > > >>>> these house > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > >>> perspective. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > > >>> them > > >>>> get > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > > >>>> enhanced. So > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > spiritual > > >>>> plane and > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > > >> how > > >>> it > > >>>> can be > > >>>>> bad? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > > as > > >>> good > > >>>> or bad > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > >>> sushtana > > >>>> and > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > >>>>> > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > >>> > > >>>> [@ <%40> > > >>> ] On > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > >>> > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > >>>>> friends. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> best wishes, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > is > > >>> karak > > >>>>> for 1st > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > > >> it > > >>> can > > >>>>> be bad? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > > >> is > > >>> 6th > > >>>>> from 3rd > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > >>> upachaya > > >>>>> sthan for > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > house. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > Transit > > >> is > > >>> for > > >>>>>> environment. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > not > > >>>>> followed in > > >>>>>> KAS. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > then > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > is > > >>> going > > >>>>> over a > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > meaning. > > >> Sa > > >>>>> and Ju will > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > degree > > >>> of > > >>>>> transit of > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > look > > >>> up > > >>>>> KAS list > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > Kalprush > > >>> chart > > >>>>> has more > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > house > > >>> is > > >>>>> good. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >>> ca> ca> > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> @ <%40> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [@ <% 40> > > >>>>> ] On > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > >>>>>> @ <%40> > > >>>> > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Okay, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > >>>>>> either)? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> regards, > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > Krishna > > >>> and > > >>>>> his > > >>>>>> 2 > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > >>>>> compared > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > >> Pisces > > >>> as > > >>>>>> compared to > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > >> and > > >>> for > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > >>>> relatives, > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > >>> ca > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> [@ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>>> ] On > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> regards, > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > contribute > > >> in > > >>>>>> Pisces > > >>>>>>> as > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > please > > >>> use > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > see. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >> ca> ca> > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>> ca > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> [@ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> ] On > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Namaste Sri Lalit I have never met Sri Ash or known him personally. I posted a puzzle about my cousin and it asked for a fairly simple solution that the mahadasha and antardasha of her death be told. No information was given in the puzzle. Many persons attempted it, but, it was only Sri Ash who could predict correctly the mahadasha and antardasha. Again during the Indian idol contest between Sandeep Acharya and Karunya, someone posted the birth details of Karunya. Despite not having Sandeep Acharya's birth details, Sri Ash predicted that it does not look likely that Karunya will win. This prediction was made couple of days before the final results were announced. This was also predicted correctly. In astrology, challenges should never be made nor should be accepted. Astrology is not a show off of knowledge. It has to met with humility and accepted as a prasada from Ma Saraswati. Sri Ash represents qualities of humility, cheerfulness and is helping to anyone who seeks his advice. If you check his group, you would know the contribution he is making single handedly to this science. He truly has the blessings of his Guru Sri Krushna, whose ashtakavarga system he follows. This method is dissimilar to the ashtakavarga that is generally followed and that should not make him any less an astrologer than he is. Therefore, I would request you to approach him with openness and friendliness as I am positive that his contribution will benefit astrology. Thanks and Regards Bharat On Jan 9, 2008 4:59 PM, litsol <litsol wrote: > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, If > this is the same Ash. > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done a > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is what > i saw. > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too deep > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses and > 9 planets. > > regards, > Lalit. > > <%40>, > Prafulla Gang <jyotish > > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > <%40> > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > Yes, > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > thats all. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > >> > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > > time > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > hangups > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > > > to > > >> say the least. > > >> > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > > > of > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > > > i > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come > to > > >> conclutions. > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system > to > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > humble > > >> guru. > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > practioner > > >> of this divine science. > > >> best wishes > > >> mahalakshmi > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> <%40> > > >> [ <%40>] > On > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > >>> <%40> > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > >>> > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > >>> > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > >>> > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > >>> > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > >>> > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > >>> pains of solitude. > > >>> > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > >>> > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > >>> > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > >>> > > >>> best wishes, > > >>> Bhaskar. > > >>> > > >>> @ <%40> > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > > >> most > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co-workers, > > >>> thus a > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > > >> care > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > >>>> > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > >>>> > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > > >> that > > >>> it > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > >>>> > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > struggle, > > >>> see, > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > >>>> > > >>>> regards, > > >>>> Lalit. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> @ <%40> > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > > >>> per > > >>>> KAS WS) > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > > >> to > > >>>> sickness. > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > > how > > >>> I > > >>>> approach > > >>>>> it. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > > >> 6th > > >>> and > > >>>> 1st both > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > >>>> Individuality > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > > 6th > > >>>> house so good > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > > as > > >>> lord > > >>>> of Aries. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > > >> is > > >>> most > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > house > > >>> and > > >>>> 8th house > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > >> most > > >>>> benefic and > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > >>> planet > > >>>> as per KAS > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > > >> for > > >>>> 8th). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > > to > > >>> death > > >>>> of > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > that > > >>> is > > >>>> our > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > > >>> and > > >>>> 3rd house, > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > > >>> sthan. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > 6th > > >>>> house. Also > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > 1st, > > >>> 9th, > > >>>> is karak > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > > for > > >>>> these house > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > >>> perspective. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > > >>> them > > >>>> get > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > > >>>> enhanced. So > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > spiritual > > >>>> plane and > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > > >> how > > >>> it > > >>>> can be > > >>>>> bad? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > > as > > >>> good > > >>>> or bad > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > >>> sushtana > > >>>> and > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > >>>>> > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > >>> > > >>>> [@ <%40> > > >>> ] On > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > >>> > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > >>>>> friends. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> best wishes, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > is > > >>> karak > > >>>>> for 1st > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > > >> it > > >>> can > > >>>>> be bad? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > > >> is > > >>> 6th > > >>>>> from 3rd > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > >>> upachaya > > >>>>> sthan for > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > house. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > Transit > > >> is > > >>> for > > >>>>>> environment. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > not > > >>>>> followed in > > >>>>>> KAS. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > then > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > is > > >>> going > > >>>>> over a > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > meaning. > > >> Sa > > >>>>> and Ju will > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > degree > > >>> of > > >>>>> transit of > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > look > > >>> up > > >>>>> KAS list > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > Kalprush > > >>> chart > > >>>>> has more > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > house > > >>> is > > >>>>> good. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >>> ca> ca> > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> @ <%40> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [@ <%40> > > >>>>> ] On > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > >>>>>> @ <%40> > > >>>> > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Okay, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > >>>>>> either)? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> regards, > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > > 40> > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > Krishna > > >>> and > > >>>>> his > > >>>>>> 2 > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > >>>>> compared > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > >> Pisces > > >>> as > > >>>>>> compared to > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > >> and > > >>> for > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > >>>> relatives, > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > >>> ca > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > > 40> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> [@ <% <%25> > > > 40> > > >>>>>> ] On > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > >>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > > 40> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> regards, > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > contribute > > >> in > > >>>>>> Pisces > > >>>>>>> as > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > please > > >>> use > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > see. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >> ca> ca> > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>> ca > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> [@ <% <%25> > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> ] On > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > >>>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > >> 40> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 hiii, someday you will question existence of Lahiri's theory, Western Astrology, Greek astrology.and palmistry..etc..etc.... , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Mr. Chawan, > > I had a plain mind untill i saw Ash's postings and articles, i read > them and realized the huge gap there. doing and using same vedic > astrology's principles and presentting with a different brand name, > where is the philosophy, where are their principles. as used vedic > principles are true, sometimes, something comes true but that is > again partly. > > Ash has said that he has god Mars in 6'th, he doesnt know that I too > have got Mars in Leo in 6'th along with Sun. > > Now the question is, a person, who gives counselling to thousands why > doesnt understand such a simple placement, this hurts me, pls. change > ur attitude towards this divine jyotish. Let's help grow it with > honesty. > > People are dependant on you, be fair to them. > > I have no rigidness in my mind, when things get improve, i change my > thoughts, who will not. > > regards, > Lalit > > > > , Prathamesn Chawan > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lalit Ji > > > > Greetings > > > > With Due course of time you will change your thoughts about Ash > and KAS. > > > > Sometimes truth is very obvious and we are not able to find it > out..... > > > > Thanks > > > > Jagdish > > > > litsol <litsol@> wrote: > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, > If > > this is the same Ash. > > > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done > a > > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is > what > > i saw. > > > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too > deep > > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses > and > > 9 planets. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum > > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > > > Yes, > > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > > thats all. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > > > time > > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed > a > > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > > hangups > > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the > person > > > > to > > > >> say the least. > > > >> > > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the > period > > > > of > > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period > which > > > > i > > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to > come > > to > > > >> conclutions. > > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique > system > > to > > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > > humble > > > >> guru. > > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > > practioner > > > >> of this divine science. > > > >> best wishes > > > >> mahalakshmi > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> On > > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > >>> > > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > > >>> > > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > >>> > > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > > >>> > > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > >>> > > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > >>> > > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > > >>> pains of solitude. > > > >>> > > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > > >>> > > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > >>> > > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > > >>> > > > >>> best wishes, > > > >>> Bhaskar. > > > >>> > > > >>> @ <% 40> > > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > > > >> most > > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- > workers, > > > >>> thus a > > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > > > >> care > > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > > > >> that > > > >>> it > > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > > struggle, > > > >>> see, > > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> regards, > > > >>>> Lalit. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > > > >>> per > > > >>>> KAS WS) > > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > > > >> to > > > >>>> sickness. > > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > > > how > > > >>> I > > > >>>> approach > > > >>>>> it. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > > > >> 6th > > > >>> and > > > >>>> 1st both > > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > > >>>> Individuality > > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > > > 6th > > > >>>> house so good > > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > > > as > > > >>> lord > > > >>>> of Aries. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > > > >> is > > > >>> most > > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > > house > > > >>> and > > > >>>> 8th house > > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > > >> most > > > >>>> benefic and > > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > > >>> planet > > > >>>> as per KAS > > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > > > >> for > > > >>>> 8th). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > > > to > > > >>> death > > > >>>> of > > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > > that > > > >>> is > > > >>>> our > > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > > > >>> and > > > >>>> 3rd house, > > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > > > >>> sthan. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > > 6th > > > >>>> house. Also > > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > > 1st, > > > >>> 9th, > > > >>>> is karak > > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > > > for > > > >>>> these house > > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > > >>> perspective. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > > > >>> them > > > >>>> get > > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > > > >>>> enhanced. So > > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > > spiritual > > > >>>> plane and > > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > > > >> how > > > >>> it > > > >>>> can be > > > >>>>> bad? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > > > as > > > >>> good > > > >>>> or bad > > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > > >>> sushtana > > > >>>> and > > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> _____ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>> > > > >>>> [@ <% 40> > > > >>> ] On > > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > > >>>>> friends. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> best wishes, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > > is > > > >>> karak > > > >>>>> for 1st > > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > > > >> it > > > >>> can > > > >>>>> be bad? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > > > >> is > > > >>> 6th > > > >>>>> from 3rd > > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > > >>> upachaya > > > >>>>> sthan for > > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > > house. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > > Transit > > > >> is > > > >>> for > > > >>>>>> environment. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > > not > > > >>>>> followed in > > > >>>>>> KAS. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > > then > > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > > is > > > >>> going > > > >>>>> over a > > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > > meaning. > > > >> Sa > > > >>>>> and Ju will > > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > > degree > > > >>> of > > > >>>>> transit of > > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > > look > > > >>> up > > > >>>>> KAS list > > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > > Kalprush > > > >>> chart > > > >>>>> has more > > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > > house > > > >>> is > > > >>>>> good. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > >>> ca> ca> > > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> _____ > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> [@ <% > 40> > > > >>>>> ] On > > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > >>>>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Okay, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > >>>>>> either)? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> regards, > > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> @ <% > > > > 40> > > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > > Krishna > > > >>> and > > > >>>>> his > > > >>>>>> 2 > > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > > >>>>> compared > > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > > >> Pisces > > > >>> as > > > >>>>>> compared to > > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > > >> and > > > >>> for > > > >>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > >>>> relatives, > > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > >>> ca > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> _____ > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > > 40> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> [@ <% > > > > 40> > > > >>>>>> ] On > > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > > 40> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> regards, > > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > > contribute > > > >> in > > > >>>>>> Pisces > > > >>>>>>> as > > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > > please > > > >>> use > > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > > see. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > >> ca> ca> > > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > >>>> ca> ca> > > > >>>>> ca > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> [@ <% > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>>> ] On > > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Dear Bharat ji, We all are aware of Sri Ash's qualtiy astrology from many years and i donot think that if anyone questions Ash's skills and we go and try to make him convince. IF anyone is not using KAS then its his mistake , not Ash's. and i dont think that Ash need to give any kind of explanation abt the theory he is following. I am also in astrology forum from past 5 yrs and i am aware. But i never questioned him in forum , rather i read all his forum mails and then got convinced myself and this is the suitable way also. Warm Regards, Tarun , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote: > > Namaste Sri Lalit > > I have never met Sri Ash or known him personally. I posted a puzzle about my > cousin and it asked for a fairly simple solution that the mahadasha and > antardasha of her death be told. No information was given in the puzzle. > Many persons attempted it, but, it was only Sri Ash who could predict > correctly the mahadasha and antardasha. > > Again during the Indian idol contest between Sandeep Acharya and Karunya, > someone posted the birth details of Karunya. Despite not having Sandeep > Acharya's birth details, Sri Ash predicted that it does not look likely that > Karunya will win. This prediction was made couple of days before the final > results were announced. This was also predicted correctly. > > In astrology, challenges should never be made nor should be accepted. > Astrology is not a show off of knowledge. It has to met with humility and > accepted as a prasada from Ma Saraswati. Sri Ash represents qualities of > humility, cheerfulness and is helping to anyone who seeks his advice. If you > check his group, you would know the contribution he is making single > handedly to this science. > > He truly has the blessings of his Guru Sri Krushna, whose ashtakavarga > system he follows. This method is dissimilar to the ashtakavarga that is > generally followed and that should not make him any less an astrologer than > he is. > > Therefore, I would request you to approach him with openness and > friendliness as I am positive that his contribution will benefit astrology. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > On Jan 9, 2008 4:59 PM, litsol <litsol wrote: > > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, If > > this is the same Ash. > > > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done a > > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is what > > i saw. > > > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too deep > > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses and > > 9 planets. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > <% 40>, > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum > > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > <% 40> > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > > > Yes, > > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > > thats all. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40>, > > " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > > > time > > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > > hangups > > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > > > > to > > > >> say the least. > > > >> > > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > > > > of > > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > > > > i > > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come > > to > > > >> conclutions. > > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system > > to > > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > > humble > > > >> guru. > > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > > practioner > > > >> of this divine science. > > > >> best wishes > > > >> mahalakshmi > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> <% 40> > > > >> [ <% 40>] > > On > > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > > >>> <% 40> > > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > > >>> > > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > > >>> > > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > > >>> > > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > > >>> > > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > > >>> > > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > > >>> pains of solitude. > > > >>> > > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > > >>> > > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > > >>> > > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > > >>> > > > >>> best wishes, > > > >>> Bhaskar. > > > >>> > > > >>> @ <% 40> > > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > > > >> most > > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- workers, > > > >>> thus a > > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > > > >> care > > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > > > >> that > > > >>> it > > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > > struggle, > > > >>> see, > > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> regards, > > > >>>> Lalit. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > > > >>> per > > > >>>> KAS WS) > > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > > > >> to > > > >>>> sickness. > > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > > > how > > > >>> I > > > >>>> approach > > > >>>>> it. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > > > >> 6th > > > >>> and > > > >>>> 1st both > > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > > >>>> Individuality > > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > > > 6th > > > >>>> house so good > > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > > > as > > > >>> lord > > > >>>> of Aries. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > > > >> is > > > >>> most > > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > > house > > > >>> and > > > >>>> 8th house > > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > > >> most > > > >>>> benefic and > > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > > >>> planet > > > >>>> as per KAS > > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > > > >> for > > > >>>> 8th). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > > > to > > > >>> death > > > >>>> of > > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > > that > > > >>> is > > > >>>> our > > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > > > >>> and > > > >>>> 3rd house, > > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > > > >>> sthan. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > > 6th > > > >>>> house. Also > > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > > 1st, > > > >>> 9th, > > > >>>> is karak > > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > > > for > > > >>>> these house > > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > > >>> perspective. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > > > >>> them > > > >>>> get > > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > > > >>>> enhanced. So > > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > > spiritual > > > >>>> plane and > > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > > > >> how > > > >>> it > > > >>>> can be > > > >>>>> bad? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > > > as > > > >>> good > > > >>>> or bad > > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > > >>> sushtana > > > >>>> and > > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> _____ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>> > > > >>>> [@ <% 40> > > > >>> ] On > > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > > >>> > > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > > >>>>> friends. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> best wishes, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > > is > > > >>> karak > > > >>>>> for 1st > > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > > > >> it > > > >>> can > > > >>>>> be bad? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > > > >> is > > > >>> 6th > > > >>>>> from 3rd > > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > > >>> upachaya > > > >>>>> sthan for > > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > > house. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > > Transit > > > >> is > > > >>> for > > > >>>>>> environment. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > > not > > > >>>>> followed in > > > >>>>>> KAS. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > > then > > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > > is > > > >>> going > > > >>>>> over a > > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > > meaning. > > > >> Sa > > > >>>>> and Ju will > > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > > degree > > > >>> of > > > >>>>> transit of > > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > > look > > > >>> up > > > >>>>> KAS list > > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > > Kalprush > > > >>> chart > > > >>>>> has more > > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > > house > > > >>> is > > > >>>>> good. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > >>> ca> ca> > > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> _____ > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> [@ <% 40> > > > >>>>> ] On > > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > > >>>>>> @ <% 40> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Okay, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > > >>>>>> either)? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> regards, > > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > > > 40> > > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > > Krishna > > > >>> and > > > >>>>> his > > > >>>>>> 2 > > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > > >>>>> compared > > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > > >> Pisces > > > >>> as > > > >>>>>> compared to > > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > > >> and > > > >>> for > > > >>>>>> the > > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > > >>>> relatives, > > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > >>> ca > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> _____ > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > > > 40> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> [@ <% <%25> > > > > 40> > > > >>>>>> ] On > > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <% 25> > > > > 40> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> regards, > > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > > contribute > > > >> in > > > >>>>>> Pisces > > > >>>>>>> as > > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > > please > > > >>> use > > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > > see. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > >> ca> ca> > > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > >>>> ca> ca> > > > >>>>> ca > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% <%25> > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> [@ <% <%25> > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>>> ] On > > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > > >>>>>>>> @ <% <% 25> > > > >> 40> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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