Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I am silently watching your exchanging of mails. Bhaskar ji really I join with you in supporting your views.. Excellent. I too an astrologer and I do have certain technique of Ashtakavarga method of prediction. I hope ASH also may be aware of that. Predicting number of childrens and number of siblings of mother, father, and oneself.. This method I am quite successful.. It is based on karakatwas and corresponding karaka houses we can count and tel siblings. Each one has so many views and method follows and in this forum if we exchange we all will be more knowledgeable. On the other day I was talking with Lalit about your view expressed about 6,8,12.. thank you I prey continue pour in your thoughts, Regds. K.V.Vighnesh Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Lalitji, I disagree with infighting between us members without strong provocations. We must stay united by all means, at least try to. On the other hand I agree with certain points in Your mail, but in general and without reference to anyone in particular. 1) Postmartem may not suggest prowess in predicting for future. 2) People jumping to divisonal charts or ashtakvargas without knowing the results of 9 Planets placed in 12 houses and signs. 3) Branding of any Vedic Parashar system of prediction to ones own name. The above are personal views,with no reference to anyone please.I always wish free speech but at same time live as a family member within our community. I do not advocate differences between us astrologers, except perhaps on principles, rules and ways of prognostications, which is but natural. We all should be so closely knit otherwise, that if 1 astrologer is in need of any kind of help, then 100 others should be ready to stand and offer the help. This is my vision for us astrologers and it pains me when we have infighting. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear mahalakshmiJi, > > I went to Ash's web site, gone through the cases listed there and > found how things are twisted to reach a atrificial justification, If > this is the same Ash. > > Given post mortem is also not not very logical,however,he has done a > good try. No impressive job, I know only very little but this is what > i saw. > > In fact they should develop their skill to properly judge a native > horoscope, this is what most astrologers lack and they jump too deep > in divisional charts, ashtak vergas and try to brand things as per > their name. Firstly, pls. have a command over study of 12 houses and > 9 planets. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > Absolutely. Ash is one of the finest predictor amongst most forum > astrologers. His clarity of thought and approach is something, I > admire most; and above all - he is a very helpful person. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > http://www.vedic-jyotish.net > > Vedic Jyotish : research and resource web > > > > No-one is perfect......until you fall in love with them! > > > > ************************************************ > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:28:30 -0000 > > > > > > Re: How many Leos here ? > > > > > > Dear Mahalakshmi ji, > > > > > > Yes, > > > Ash is a person whom I admire for his ability to get > > > out of controversial issues and a stance of non involvement > > > in these, even in face of provocations. > > > I am also impressed by the smiling face on his Forum which > > > I have visited only once or twice in my Life time, due to > > > lack of available spare periods, but intend to go > > > through his Ptredictive Module in future , and learn, > > > whenever time is on hand. I also like his way of ending > > > Mails " Cheers " . > > > He leaves his mails with a positive Good bye always. > > > > > > Personally i do not know him, just read once long back that he > > > had done is schooling near my home ( If I remember well), > > > thats all. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rama gopalakrishnan " > > > <astromahaluxmi@> wrote: > > >> > > >> dear bhaskar bhai > > >> i second your opinion on ash's fine capabilities to accurately > > > time > > >> events in the life of jataks. > > >> for his knowledge in timing events anyone could have developed a > > >> swollen head but this person is really a humble soul with no > > > hangups > > >> preferring to distance himself away from negativity or adverse > > >> comments which i think is very dignified and decent of the person > > > to > > >> say the least. > > >> > > >> last year i remember he was one among two to pinpoint the period > > > of > > >> death and the cause from a broad range of a ten year period which > > > i > > >> can never forget. it was amazing. this system does deserve a > > >> second look by any serious astrologer who wants to time events > > >> besides our own favourite techniques and systems we use to come > to > > >> conclutions. > > >> much thanks also to shri krushnaji to spread this unique system > to > > >> learners with no ego. no wonder his sishya is worthy of this > > > humble > > >> guru. > > >> it is my personal view that at the end of the day, whatever the > > >> technique if one can time events then he is a successful > > > practioner > > >> of this divine science. > > >> best wishes > > >> mahalakshmi > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> On > > >>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>> Tuesday January 8, 2008 5:16 AM > > >>> > > >>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Dear Lalitji, > > >>> > > >>> Ash is a good astrologer in his own right. > > >>> I know he is not a extremist as we can see > > >>> from his observations. I am confident he > > >>> knows the good and the Ugly side > > >>> nboth, of all the houses.He has just > > >>> spoken of the malefic side in context. > > >>> > > >>> The 6th can be as good as can be malefic. > > >>> It can be as Malefic as it can be good. > > >>> The 6th if strong is good for > > >>> a Business man, as it gives good returns > > >>> through transactions made, through payments > > >>> recieved, through loans processed. > > >>> > > >>> We also know that many Big Wealthy business > > >>> men suffer from the common ill health problems > > >>> like Diabetes, Hypertension, BP etc. > > >>> > > >>> Similarly good servants means also strong enemies. > > >>> Both are the gift of a strong 6th House. > > >>> One may have good overdraft facilitites to withdraw money > > >>> but he may also have side by side worries to > > >>> contend with, as regards to re-payment of these money > > >>> withdrawn. One may have a strong stable for Horses, > > >>> but he also needs strong income to provide fodder. > > >>> One may be well known in his area for the Doberman > > >>> and the Bulldogs he keeps, but he may also be at risk > > >>> of having been bitten by the number of ferocious > > >>> dogs he keeps as pet animals. > > >>> One may have a strong well placed and well known > > >>> Maternal Uncle, but if he comes to stay as guest > > >>> for a weeks holiday , then the native has to > > >>> come up to the levels of Hosting the Uncles stay > > >>> as demanded by theUncle and the norms set. > > >>> > > >>> These are all part of the game one plays. > > >>> Duality is the essence of the planets. One > > >>> cannot have one side of the planet and not > > >>> be touched by the other side. To know > > >>> pleasure one has to knw pain. To know the > > >>> meaning of togetherness, one has to know the > > >>> pains of solitude. > > >>> > > >>> All planets have both the sides. Which side > > >>> it is going to manifest more depends on > > >>> individual to individual, with regards to the > > >>> punsihments meted out, with regards to the > > >>> rewards granted. This game of finding what > > >>> results one person will see more in his Life > > >>> from these planets, is what is reading the > > >>> Janma Kundli,all about. > > >>> > > >>> We are all palying this game. Some play it > > >>> better, some not so better. Some play it at > > >>> times better, some play it at times ,not > > >>> so better. These indications too are present in > > >>> the chart, who would play this game better or not. > > >>> > > >>> Sorry, have gone off track, > > >>> in a conversation mode. > > >>> > > >>> best wishes, > > >>> Bhaskar. > > >>> > > >>> @ <%40> > > >>> , " litsol " <litsol@> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> I dont think u have done a good homework to say 6'th house is > > >> most > > >>>> malific, Mars in 6'th gives very good support from co- workers, > > >>> thus a > > >>>> ready made leadership,ur people are ready to follow u, u get > > >> care > > >>>> from the co-workers. > > >>>> > > >>>> Have u checked this. > > >>>> > > >>>> Mars will also give u good immunity along with some diseasses > > >> that > > >>> it > > >>>> should give in 6'th house. > > >>>> > > >>>> If rest is fine, he will make property also after some > > > struggle, > > >>> see, > > >>>> how 80% people are living in india. > > >>>> > > >>>> regards, > > >>>> Lalit. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> @ <%40> > > >>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 6th house is upachaya for 1st house. So if power is good (as > > >>> per > > >>>> KAS WS) > > >>>>> then person recovers quickly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> If 6th house is weak and that would make a person more prone > > >> to > > >>>> sickness. > > >>>>> 1st house is Karak. So natural lord Mars is karak. That is > > > how > > >>> I > > >>>> approach > > >>>>> it. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So a strong Mars in a persons chart means natural karak for > > >> 6th > > >>> and > > >>>> 1st both > > >>>>> become very powerful and gives better results related to > > >>>> Individuality > > >>>>> (karak for 1st house i.e. 8th house sco lord) and also for > > > 6th > > >>>> house so good > > >>>>> resistance to illness and sickness and good recovery power > > > as > > >>> lord > > >>>> of Aries. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As per KAS, I can share what little I know is that 6th house > > >> is > > >>> most > > >>>>> malefic, 12th house the opposite of that is most benefic > > > house > > >>> and > > >>>> 8th house > > >>>>> is also benefic as it gives death. (Death is considered as > > >> most > > >>>> benefic and > > >>>>> the reason for that is that death happens in highest power > > >>> planet > > >>>> as per KAS > > >>>>> WS or in antra of 1st or 5th lord - powerful upachaya sthan > > >> for > > >>>> 8th). > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I agree with you that if we place ourself and our feelings > > > to > > >>> death > > >>>> of > > >>>>> closed ones, we will feel very sad, but that being said, > > > that > > >>> is > > >>>> our > > >>>>> feelings. Maybe that is why over time, 8th house, 12th house > > >>> and > > >>>> 3rd house, > > >>>>> i.e Karak, Phal and Plalit sthan became deemed as " dushtana " > > >>> sthan. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> However, I do not consider 8th, 12th and 3rd as bad. Only > > > 6th > > >>>> house. Also > > >>>>> for 6th house there are exceptions as 6th is upachaya for > > > 1st, > > >>> 9th, > > >>>> is karak > > >>>>> for 11th and is the phalit sthan for 2nd house as well. So > > > for > > >>>> these house > > >>>>> its to be considered more keenly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I think we are saying the same thing, just in different > > >>> perspective. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As per KAS, planets placed in 12th house, the house ruled by > > >>> them > > >>>> get > > >>>>> enhanced, the house where 12th house goes and sits also gets > > >>>> enhanced. So > > >>>>> 12th house is the most auspicious house. Its on the > > > spiritual > > >>>> plane and > > >>>>> most powerful moksh trikon. Seeing it from that perspective > > >> how > > >>> it > > >>>> can be > > >>>>> bad? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> As you say, these are all events, its us who classify them > > > as > > >>> good > > >>>> or bad > > >>>>> based on society and our personal feelings that taint the > > >>> sushtana > > >>>> and > > >>>>> dushtana and trik etc. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >> http://www.ashtro. > > >>> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > >>>>> > > >>>>> _____ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > >>> > > >>>> [@ <% 40> > > >>> ] On > > >>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 10:09 PM > > >>>>> @ <%40> > > >>> > > >>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> No house is actually benefic or malefic. > > >>>>> It is all during the stay in this physical > > >>>>> body, is the houses considered so. > > >>>>> It also depends how each one would work > > >>>>> for each individual.But honestly, no one > > >>>>> likes death, no one likes disease,and > > >>>>> no one likes expenditures hence the 8th,6th > > >>>>> and the 12th are considered as evil, > > >>>>> otherwise for me personally, the houses > > >>>>> and the planets are just the doorways > > >>>>> and the means to finish the unfinished > > >>>>> business and get going to another zone...... > > >>>>> I normally address the 6th house, as house > > >>>>> of health,and not disease, with my close > > >>>>> friends. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> best wishes, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> @ <% 40> > > >>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I do not consider 8th house as malefic. Infact 8th house > > > is > > >>> karak > > >>>>> for 1st > > >>>>>> house and it gives the most auspicious event of death. How > > >> it > > >>> can > > >>>>> be bad? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> There are so many things to consider. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 8th house is 10th from 11th so its upachaya for income. It > > >> is > > >>> 6th > > >>>>> from 3rd > > >>>>>> house so upachaya for your parakram. As 5th lord it is > > >>> upachaya > > >>>>> sthan for > > >>>>>> 8th house and also 12th house as its in 6th from 12th > > > house. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> So it will try to give good result for these house. > > > Transit > > >> is > > >>> for > > >>>>>> environment. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Kakshya is some theory made some some astrology which is > > > not > > >>>>> followed in > > >>>>>> KAS. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> In General when Sa and Ju power is more than 8 in total > > > then > > >>>>> karakwa denoted > > >>>>>> by last 4 houses of kalprush chart will get enhanced. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> If Ju is tr over say your 8th house with 5 bindus and Sa > > > is > > >>> going > > >>>>> over a > > >>>>>> house where it has 0 points then it has some other > > > meaning. > > >> Sa > > >>>>> and Ju will > > >>>>>> become 5. Antras is to be studied as well MD and even > > > degree > > >>> of > > >>>>> transit of > > >>>>>> Ju and Sa. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> If some chart comes, I will demonstrate this or you can > > > look > > >>> up > > >>>>> KAS list > > >>>>>> where such things has been solved. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Just Ju alone only means that 9th and 12th lord in > > > Kalprush > > >>> chart > > >>>>> has more > > >>>>>> power in Transit means karaktwa denoted by 5th and 2nd > > > house > > >>> is > > >>>>> good. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >>> ca> ca> > > >>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> @ <% 40> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [@ <% 40> > > >>>>> ] On > > >>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 11:05 AM > > >>>>>> @ <%40> > > >>>> > > >>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Okay, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> But Jupiter would behave good (or less malefic) > > >>>>>> in a evil 8th house with more points ? > > >>>>>> Or would it behave malefic ( Or Less good) > > >>>>>> with less points in a benefic house, say 5th house ? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 1) When passing through that House or kakshya ? > > >>>>>> 2) Overall (Since it does not have less points in > > >>>>>> either)? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> regards, > > >>>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks for your quick feedback. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> So good. Now we got your chart, Prafulla's chart, > > > Krishna > > >>> and > > >>>>> his > > >>>>>> 2 > > >>>>>>> relatives all leo. 4 of 5 charts with more bindus in Sag > > >>>>> compared > > >>>>>> to Pisces > > >>>>>>> and in your case, its Ju having more contribution in > > >> Pisces > > >>> as > > >>>>>> compared to > > >>>>>>> Sagittarius. So Ju for 8th house has more power for you > > >> and > > >>> for > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>> remaining 4 i.e .Prafulla and Krishna and his 2 close > > >>>> relatives, > > >>>>>> Ju has more > > >>>>>>> power in Sag compared to Pisces. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >>>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > >>> ca > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> [@ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>>> ] On > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 9:13 AM > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > > 40> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> Re: How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Dear Ash, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, just came in. > > >>>>>>> I have 4 in Sagittarius and 5 in Pisces for > > >>>>>>> Jupiter. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> regards, > > >>>>>>> Bhaskar. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> @ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Dear Prafulla, Bhaskar and Krishna, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Can you all tell me how many bindu's does Ju > > > contribute > > >> in > > >>>>>> Pisces > > >>>>>>> as > > >>>>>>>> compared to Sagittarius. When casting your charts > > > please > > >>> use > > >>>>>>> Varharamira's > > >>>>>>>> SAV scheme please. That will also be interesting to > > > see. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Cheers !!! > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >> ca> ca> > > >>>>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>>> http://www.ashtro. > > >>>>>>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > >>> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > >>>> ca> ca> > > >>>>> ca > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> _____ > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> [@ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>>> ] On > > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bhaskar > > >>>>>>>> Monday January 7, 2008 4:46 AM > > >>>>>>>> @ <% > > >> 40> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> How many Leos here ? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Shri Prafullaji, Myself, Shri Krishnaji and > > >>>>>>>> anymore ? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> let us know. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> regards/Bhaskar. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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