Venus Dasha and Pakistan

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Dear Mr. Imram,

 

Please note that on SAMVA we discuss only the Systems' Approach.

Certainly, so far your tecniques have not enabled you to accurately

predict the situation.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , " M. Imran " <astroimran wrote:

>

> Dear All,

> Pakistan has just entered in the 20-yearperiod of Venus maha

dasha. It began on the December 27, 2007 the very day whenBenazir

Bhutto was assassinated.

>

> Besides aforesaid shocking beginning, onaccount of natural

karakttwa of Venus and its association with 10th lord Saturn,it is

very much expected that military regime in Pakistan would end soon

and thecountry may turn into a new leaf. This hypothesis is

(apparently) supported bynavamsha chakra, where Venus owns the

navmahsa lagna Libra, and falls inCapricorn that in turns the 10th

house of Pakistan .

>

> On

> nakshtara chakra, Venus is the lord of benefic Saadhana Tara and

favourbaly occupied

> in Kshema Tara lorded by Mercury.

>

> But being

> lord of 2nd and 7th from lagna, it is a first rate maraka for Aries

lagna. For

> a mundane chart, maraka dasha usually yields delimitation or

emergence of new provinces,

> revolt against existing systems and political uncertainty. In

afflicted situation

> it may give security threat even disintegration.

>

> Here no

> doubt Venus is maraka, but it is tenanted in 4th house. And if I am

not

> forgetting, either Bhavartha Ratnakara or Jataka Prijata says that

maraka

> effect of Venus nullifies if it locates in 4th house.

>

> I would

> appreciate if any member may shed light on the dasha of 4th Venus

in case of Pakistan.

>

> Regards,

> M. Imran

> astroimran

>

>

> PS:

>

> Pakistan

>

> August 14, 1947

> Time: 12:00:01am

> TimeZone: 5:30:00(East of GMT)

> Place: Karachi (then capital atthe time of independence)

> 67 E 03' 00 " , 24 N 52'

> 00 "

>

> Lagna: 23Ar 15' 48.58 "

> Sun: 27 Cn 02' 03.43 "

> Moon: 18 Ge 59' 09.12 "

> Mars: 06 Ge 48' 19.80 "

> Mercury: 11 Cn 54' 28.89 "

> Jupiter: 25 Li 47' 47.41 "

> Venus: 21 Cn 20' 20.30 "

> Saturn: 20 Cn 21' 10.76 "

> Rahu: 05 Ta 07' 23.17 "

> Ketu: 05 Sc 07' 23.17 "

> MC: 10 Cp 28' 07.38 "

>

>

>

>

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Sorry Thor,

 

If any of my sentence has surpassed the jurisdiction of System

Approach (SA). I would like to have your opinion as per SA on the

Venus dasha for Pakistan. Infact, it was the focus of discussion last

week in my friend's home. He asked me to have viewpoint of different

Indian school of astrology on Venus dasha.

 

Love and Regard,

M. Imran

 

 

SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Imram,

>

> Please note that on SAMVA we discuss only the Systems' Approach.

> Certainly, so far your tecniques have not enabled you to accurately

> predict the situation.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

> SAMVA , " M. Imran " <astroimran@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> > Pakistan has just entered in the 20-yearperiod of Venus maha

> dasha. It began on the December 27, 2007 the very day whenBenazir

> Bhutto was assassinated.

> >

> > Besides aforesaid shocking beginning, onaccount of natural

> karakttwa of Venus and its association with 10th lord Saturn,it is

> very much expected that military regime in Pakistan would end soon

> and thecountry may turn into a new leaf. This hypothesis is

> (apparently) supported bynavamsha chakra, where Venus owns the

> navmahsa lagna Libra, and falls inCapricorn that in turns the 10th

> house of Pakistan .

> >

> > On

> > nakshtara chakra, Venus is the lord of benefic Saadhana Tara and

> favourbaly occupied

> > in Kshema Tara lorded by Mercury.

> >

> > But being

> > lord of 2nd and 7th from lagna, it is a first rate maraka for Aries

> lagna. For

> > a mundane chart, maraka dasha usually yields delimitation or

> emergence of new provinces,

> > revolt against existing systems and political uncertainty. In

> afflicted situation

> > it may give security threat even disintegration.

> >

> > Here no

> > doubt Venus is maraka, but it is tenanted in 4th house. And if I am

> not

> > forgetting, either Bhavartha Ratnakara or Jataka Prijata says that

> maraka

> > effect of Venus nullifies if it locates in 4th house.

> >

> > I would

> > appreciate if any member may shed light on the dasha of 4th Venus

> in case of Pakistan.

> >

> > Regards,

> > M. Imran

> > astroimran@

> >

> >

> > PS:

> >

> > Pakistan

> >

> > August 14, 1947

> > Time: 12:00:01am

> > TimeZone: 5:30:00(East of GMT)

> > Place: Karachi (then capital atthe time of independence)

> > 67 E 03' 00 " , 24 N 52'

> > 00 "

> >

> > Lagna: 23Ar 15' 48.58 "

> > Sun: 27 Cn 02' 03.43 "

> > Moon: 18 Ge 59' 09.12 "

> > Mars: 06 Ge 48' 19.80 "

> > Mercury: 11 Cn 54' 28.89 "

> > Jupiter: 25 Li 47' 47.41 "

> > Venus: 21 Cn 20' 20.30 "

> > Saturn: 20 Cn 21' 10.76 "

> > Rahu: 05 Ta 07' 23.17 "

> > Ketu: 05 Sc 07' 23.17 "

> > MC: 10 Cp 28' 07.38 "

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hare ramakrishna ,

 

dear Imran ji ,

 

 

 

pakistan will be financialy very good during venus dasa and all the

frenzy of neo world order will be viscible there .The religious

hardliners will hav to take a back seat >it will be a dasa for youths of

pakistan .U can see big boom in markets ,even share prizes may go up .So

indian business communitty also will be participating directly or

indirectly in pakistans growth . [] [:-$]

 

 

 

But venus is for 20 years ( i dont made the chart and see all proper

trends ) .

 

 

 

But as a country how far it will benefit is the question ,but ppl will b

far better .(I think lagna Lord and dasa Lord is in 2/12 -Mars and

venus)

 

 

 

i am using ur mail and indian independence chart for answering u .May b

more learned ppl can illuminate us .

 

 

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " M. Imran " <astroimran

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

> Pakistan has just entered in the 20-yearperiod of Venus maha dasha. It

began on the December 27, 2007 the very day whenBenazir Bhutto was

assassinated.

>

> Besides aforesaid shocking beginning, onaccount of natural karakttwa

of Venus and its association with 10th lord Saturn,it is very much

expected that military regime in Pakistan would end soon and thecountry

may turn into a new leaf. This hypothesis is (apparently) supported

bynavamsha chakra, where Venus owns the navmahsa lagna Libra, and falls

inCapricorn that in turns the 10th house of Pakistan.

>

> Onnakshtara chakra, Venus is the lord of benefic Saadhana Tara and

favourbaly occupiedin Kshema Tara lorded by Mercury.

>

> But beinglord of 2nd and 7th from lagna, it is a first rate maraka for

Aries lagna. Fora mundane chart, maraka dasha usually yields

delimitation or emergence of new provinces,revolt against existing

systems and political uncertainty. In afflicted situationit may give

security threat even disintegration.

>

> Here nodoubt Venus is maraka, but it is tenanted in 4th house. And if

I am notforgetting, either Bhavartha Ratnakara or Jataka Prijata says

that marakaeffect of Venus nullifies if it locates in 4th house.

>

> I would

> appreciate if any member may shed light on the dasha of 4th Venus in

case of Pakistan.

>

> Regards,

> M. Imran

>

> PS:

>

> Pakistan

>

> August 14, 1947

> Time: 12:00:01am

> TimeZone: 5:30:00(East of GMT)

> Place: Karachi (then capital atthe time of independence)

> 67 E 03' 00 " , 24 N 52'00 "

>

> Lagna: 23Ar 15' 48.58 "

> Sun: 27 Cn 02' 03.43 "

> Moon: 18 Ge 59' 09.12 "

> Mars: 06 Ge 48' 19.80 "

> Mercury: 11 Cn 54' 28.89 "

> Jupiter: 25 Li 47' 47.41 "

> Venus: 21 Cn 20' 20.30 "

> Saturn: 20 Cn 21' 10.76 "

> Rahu: 05 Ta 07' 23.17 "

> Ketu: 05 Sc 07' 23.17 "

> MC: 10 Cp 28' 07.38 "

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Mr. Imram,

 

Your message did not touch on SA, but as you propose to read the chart as per SA it is fine to do so. However, we have a slight problem at this point in time. It seems several charts are being discussed for Pakistan. In particular, the Aries rising chart you suggest to analyse has been questioned by . While I offer a reading for the chart with this ascendant, I suggest it be taken with a grain of salt as will become clear in the reading. Moreover, predictions will need to remain exploratory until we become confident about an authentic chart for Pakistan.

 

In the 23° 15' Aries rising chart, there are no afflictions being cast. The 7th lord Venus is at 21° 19' Cancer in the 4th house where it is closely conjunct 11th lord Saturn at 20° 20' Cancer. The 5th lord Sun at 27° 01' Cancer is not strong, being in old age, but is well placed in the 4th house. However, it makes Venus and Saturn combust, which weakens their influence a bit. The 4h lord Moon at 18° 58' Gemini is well placed in the 3rd house, influencing the 3rd and 9th houses. With 9th lord Jupiter at 25° 47' Libra, aspecting the 7th house, 1st house, 3rd house and 11th house, this suggests great good karma with regard to income from foreign relations, resulting in gain for the countries real estate, natural resources, agriculture, communal harmony, foreign trade and executive government. Successful activities would include tourism,

pharmaceutical industry (with a basis in mining for minerals) and agriculture. Transportation and communication would also be strong areas. With L7 Venus and L10 Saturn configuration in this chart and 4th lord Moon in the 3rd house MEP, Pakistan would be expected to have a world class airline service. As 1st lord Mars is in the 3rd house, the country would have a strong military and be expected to assume a leadership position in international affairs. Finally, the Venus period would be expected to be one of social calm and notable progress in the abovementioned areas.

 

Does this chart seem to fit?

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

Muhammad Imran <astroimranSAMVA Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:21:37 PM Re: Venus Dasha and PakistanSorry Thor,If any of my sentence has surpassed the jurisdiction of SystemApproach (SA). I would like to have your opinion as per SA on theVenus dasha for Pakistan. Infact, it was the focus of discussion lastweek in my friend's home. He asked me to have viewpoint of differentIndian school of astrology on Venus dasha.Love and Regard,M. ImranSAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer wrote:>> Dear Mr. Imram,> > Please note that on SAMVA we discuss only the Systems' Approach. >

Certainly, so far your tecniques have not enabled you to accurately > predict the situation.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > SAMVA , "M. Imran" <astroimran@> wrote:> >> > Dear All, > > Pakistan has just entered in the 20-yearperiod of Venus maha > dasha. It began on the December 27, 2007 the very day whenBenazir > Bhutto was assassinated. > > > > Besides aforesaid shocking beginning, onaccount of natural > karakttwa of Venus and its association with 10th lord Saturn,it is > very much expected that military regime in Pakistan would end soon > and thecountry may turn into a new leaf. This hypothesis is > (apparently) supported bynavamsha chakra, where Venus owns the > navmahsa

lagna Libra, and falls inCapricorn that in turns the 10th > house of Pakistan . > > > > On> > nakshtara chakra, Venus is the lord of benefic Saadhana Tara and > favourbaly occupied> > in Kshema Tara lorded by Mercury. > > > > But being> > lord of 2nd and 7th from lagna, it is a first rate maraka for Aries > lagna. For> > a mundane chart, maraka dasha usually yields delimitation or > emergence of new provinces,> > revolt against existing systems and political uncertainty. In > afflicted situation> > it may give security threat even disintegration. > > > > Here no> > doubt Venus is maraka, but it is tenanted in 4th house. And if I am > not> > forgetting, either Bhavartha Ratnakara or Jataka Prijata says that >

maraka> > effect of Venus nullifies if it locates in 4th house. > > > > I would> > appreciate if any member may shed light on the dasha of 4th Venus > in case of Pakistan.> > > > Regards,> > M. Imran> > astroimran@> > > > > > PS: > > > > Pakistan > > > > August 14, 1947> > Time: 12:00:01am> > TimeZone: 5:30:00(East of GMT)> > Place: Karachi (then capital atthe time of independence)> > 67 E 03' 00", 24 N 52'> > 00"> > > > Lagna:

23Ar 15' 48.58"> > Sun: 27 Cn 02' 03.43"> > Moon: 18 Ge 59' 09.12"> > Mars: 06 Ge 48' 19.80" > > Mercury: 11 Cn 54' 28.89"> > Jupiter: 25 Li 47' 47.41"> > Venus: 21 Cn 20' 20.30"> > Saturn: 20 Cn 21' 10.76"> > Rahu: 05 Ta 07' 23.17"> > Ketu: 05 Sc 07' 23.17"> > MC: 10 Cp 28' 07.38"> > > > > > > > > > >

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Dear All,

Pakistan has just entered in the 20-yearperiod of Venus maha dasha. It began on

the December 27, 2007 the very day whenBenazir Bhutto was assassinated.

 

Besides aforesaid shocking beginning, onaccount of natural karakttwa of Venus

and its association with 10th lord Saturn,it is very much expected that military

regime in Pakistan would end soon and thecountry may turn into a new leaf. This

hypothesis is (apparently) supported bynavamsha chakra, where Venus owns the

navmahsa lagna Libra, and falls inCapricorn that in turns the 10th house of

Pakistan.

 

Onnakshtara chakra, Venus is the lord of benefic Saadhana Tara and favourbaly

occupiedin Kshema Tara lorded by Mercury.

 

But beinglord of 2nd and 7th from lagna, it is a first rate maraka for Aries

lagna. Fora mundane chart, maraka dasha usually yields delimitation or emergence

of new provinces,revolt against existing systems and political uncertainty. In

afflicted situationit may give security threat even disintegration.

 

Here nodoubt Venus is maraka, but it is tenanted in 4th house. And if I am

notforgetting, either Bhavartha Ratnakara or Jataka Prijata says that

marakaeffect of Venus nullifies if it locates in 4th house.

 

I would

appreciate if any member may shed light on the dasha of 4th Venus in case of

Pakistan.

 

Regards,

M. Imran

 

PS:

 

Pakistan

 

August 14, 1947

Time: 12:00:01am

TimeZone: 5:30:00(East of GMT)

Place: Karachi (then capital atthe time of independence)

67 E 03' 00 " , 24 N 52'00 "

 

Lagna: 23Ar 15' 48.58 "

Sun: 27 Cn 02' 03.43 "

Moon: 18 Ge 59' 09.12 "

Mars: 06 Ge 48' 19.80 "

Mercury: 11 Cn 54' 28.89 "

Jupiter: 25 Li 47' 47.41 "

Venus: 21 Cn 20' 20.30 "

Saturn: 20 Cn 21' 10.76 "

Rahu: 05 Ta 07' 23.17 "

Ketu: 05 Sc 07' 23.17 "

MC: 10 Cp 28' 07.38 "

 

 

 

 

 

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Sir

 

Can you give the birth details of Pakistan?

 

Regards

MK Viswanath

 

 

" M. Imran " <astroimran wrote:

Dear All,

Pakistan has just entered in the 20-yearperiod of Venus maha dasha. It began on

the December 27, 2007 the very day whenBenazir Bhutto was assassinated.

 

Besides aforesaid shocking beginning, onaccount of natural karakttwa of Venus

and its association with 10th lord Saturn,it is very much expected that military

regime in Pakistan would end soon and thecountry may turn into a new leaf. This

hypothesis is (apparently) supported bynavamsha chakra, where Venus owns the

navmahsa lagna Libra, and falls inCapricorn that in turns the 10th house of

Pakistan.

 

Onnakshtara chakra, Venus is the lord of benefic Saadhana Tara and favourbaly

occupiedin Kshema Tara lorded by Mercury.

 

But beinglord of 2nd and 7th from lagna, it is a first rate maraka for Aries

lagna. Fora mundane chart, maraka dasha usually yields delimitation or emergence

of new provinces,revolt against existing systems and political uncertainty. In

afflicted situationit may give security threat even disintegration.

 

Here nodoubt Venus is maraka, but it is tenanted in 4th house. And if I am

notforgetting, either Bhavartha Ratnakara or Jataka Prijata says that

marakaeffect of Venus nullifies if it locates in 4th house.

 

I would

appreciate if any member may shed light on the dasha of 4th Venus in case of

Pakistan.

 

Regards,

M. Imran

 

PS:

 

Pakistan

 

August 14, 1947

Time: 12:00:01am

TimeZone: 5:30:00(East of GMT)

Place: Karachi (then capital atthe time of independence)

67 E 03' 00 " , 24 N 52'00 "

 

Lagna: 23Ar 15' 48.58 "

Sun: 27 Cn 02' 03.43 "

Moon: 18 Ge 59' 09.12 "

Mars: 06 Ge 48' 19.80 "

Mercury: 11 Cn 54' 28.89 "

Jupiter: 25 Li 47' 47.41 "

Venus: 21 Cn 20' 20.30 "

Saturn: 20 Cn 21' 10.76 "

Rahu: 05 Ta 07' 23.17 "

Ketu: 05 Sc 07' 23.17 "

MC: 10 Cp 28' 07.38 "

 

 

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Namaste,

 

> Besides aforesaid shocking beginning, onaccount of natural karakttwa

of Venus

and its association with 10th lord Saturn,it is very much expected

that military

regime in Pakistan would end soon and thecountry may turn into a new

leaf. This

hypothesis is (apparently) supported bynavamsha chakra, where Venus

owns the

navmahsa lagna Libra, and falls inCapricorn that in turns the 10th

house of

Pakistan.

 

Congratulations for the good predictions.

 

vedic astrology , " M. Imran " <astroimran wrote:

>

> Dear All,

> Pakistan has just entered in the 20-yearperiod of Venus maha dasha.

It began on the December 27, 2007 the very day whenBenazir Bhutto was

assassinated.

>

> Besides aforesaid shocking beginning, onaccount of natural karakttwa

of Venus and its association with 10th lord Saturn,it is very much

expected that military regime in Pakistan would end soon and

thecountry may turn into a new leaf. This hypothesis is (apparently)

supported bynavamsha chakra, where Venus owns the navmahsa lagna

Libra, and falls inCapricorn that in turns the 10th house of Pakistan.

>

> Onnakshtara chakra, Venus is the lord of benefic Saadhana Tara and

favourbaly occupiedin Kshema Tara lorded by Mercury.

>

> But beinglord of 2nd and 7th from lagna, it is a first rate maraka

for Aries lagna. Fora mundane chart, maraka dasha usually yields

delimitation or emergence of new provinces,revolt against existing

systems and political uncertainty. In afflicted situationit may give

security threat even disintegration.

>

> Here nodoubt Venus is maraka, but it is tenanted in 4th house. And

if I am notforgetting, either Bhavartha Ratnakara or Jataka Prijata

says that marakaeffect of Venus nullifies if it locates in 4th house.

>

> I would

> appreciate if any member may shed light on the dasha of 4th Venus in

case of Pakistan.

>

> Regards,

> M. Imran

>

> PS:

>

> Pakistan

>

> August 14, 1947

> Time: 12:00:01am

> TimeZone: 5:30:00(East of GMT)

> Place: Karachi (then capital atthe time of independence)

> 67 E 03' 00 " , 24 N 52'00 "

>

> Lagna: 23Ar 15' 48.58 "

> Sun: 27 Cn 02' 03.43 "

> Moon: 18 Ge 59' 09.12 "

> Mars: 06 Ge 48' 19.80 "

> Mercury: 11 Cn 54' 28.89 "

> Jupiter: 25 Li 47' 47.41 "

> Venus: 21 Cn 20' 20.30 "

> Saturn: 20 Cn 21' 10.76 "

> Rahu: 05 Ta 07' 23.17 "

> Ketu: 05 Sc 07' 23.17 "

> MC: 10 Cp 28' 07.38 "

>

>

>

>

>

>

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