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Please post the prediction, with Mercury/Jupiter influences that you

have talked about.

 

Ragunatha Rao has also predicted that the life of UPA govt is minimum

2.5 years (he posted in 3 groups at least).

 

I don't understand those power calculation techniques. Hence the request.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Respected members

>

> I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding communist

> withdrawal, during september 2007.

>

> With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug 2008 has

> come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the communication that

> i had in this group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

> ------------

> Dear Madhu ji

>

> To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the political

> possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS grace.

>

> However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo

> during/after the said months were considered.

>

> Regards

> Pradeep

>

>

>

> , " Balagurusurya "

> <balagurusurya@> wrote:

> > Dear VP,

> >

> > That made an interesting reading and also reflects your expertise in

> > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

> >

> > Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological

> pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA alliance ?

> >

> > Best

> >

> > M Nair

> >

> >

> > , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members

>

> I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last

> September

> /message/18468

>

> Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after july-August

> 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

> maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards the fag

> end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

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Congratulations Sir!

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- On Sun, 13/7/08, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

UPA Government - Communist withdrawal

 

Sunday, 13 July, 2008, 1:44 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Respected members

 

 

 

I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding communist

 

withdrawal, during september 2007.

 

 

 

With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug 2008 has

 

come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the communication that

 

i had in ancient astrology group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

 

------------

 

Dear Madhu ji

 

 

 

To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the political

 

possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS grace.

 

 

 

However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo

 

during/after the said months were considered.

 

 

 

Regards

 

Pradeep

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, " Balagurusurya "

 

<balagurusurya@ ...> wrote:

 

> Dear VP,

 

>

 

> That made an interesting reading and also reflects your expertise in

 

> Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

 

>

 

> Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological

 

pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA alliance ?

 

>

 

> Best

 

>

 

> M Nair

 

>

 

>

 

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijayadas_pradeep "

 

> <vijayadas_pradeep@ > wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Dear members

 

 

 

I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last

 

September

 

http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468

 

 

 

Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after july-August

 

2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

 

maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards the fag

 

end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.

 

 

 

Regds

 

Pradeep

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Congratulations to Pradeep. I saw the old mail (message no. 18468) and

greatly appreciate the inputs of Shri Prakash Kandpal. His ideas are very

logical and convincing, astrologically. Congratulations to him.

 

Praveen Kumar

 

On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

krishna_1998 wrote:

 

> Congratulations Sir!

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- On Sun, 13/7/08, vijayadas_pradeep

<vijayadas_pradeep<vijayadas_pradeep%40>>

> wrote:

> vijayadas_pradeep

<vijayadas_pradeep<vijayadas_pradeep%40>

> >

> UPA Government - Communist withdrawal

> <%40>

> Sunday, 13 July, 2008, 1:44 AM

>

>

> Dear Respected members

>

> I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding communist

>

> withdrawal, during september 2007.

>

> With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug 2008 has

>

> come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the communication that

>

> i had in ancient astrology group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

>

> ------------

>

> Dear Madhu ji

>

> To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the political

>

> possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS grace.

>

> However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo

>

> during/after the said months were considered.

>

> Regards

>

> Pradeep

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Balagurusurya "

>

> <balagurusurya@ ...> wrote:

>

> > Dear VP,

>

> >

>

> > That made an interesting reading and also reflects your expertise in

>

> > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

>

> >

>

> > Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological

>

> pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA alliance ?

>

> >

>

> > Best

>

> >

>

> > M Nair

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijayadas_pradeep "

>

> > <vijayadas_pradeep@ > wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear members

>

> I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last

>

> September

>

> http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468

>

> Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after july-August

>

> 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

>

> maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards the fag

>

> end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.

>

> Regds

>

> Pradeep

>

>

>

>

>

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Thank you Krishnaji

 

Pradeep

, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Congratulations Sir!

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- On Sun, 13/7/08, vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

wrote:

> vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep

> UPA Government - Communist withdrawal

>

> Sunday, 13 July, 2008, 1:44 AM

>

>

>

>

>

Dear Respected members

>

>

>

> I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding communist

>

> withdrawal, during september 2007.

>

>

>

> With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug 2008 has

>

> come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the communication

that

>

> i had in ancient astrology group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

>

> ------------

>

> Dear Madhu ji

>

>

>

> To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the

political

>

> possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS grace.

>

>

>

> However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo

>

> during/after the said months were considered.

>

>

>

> Regards

>

> Pradeep

>

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Balagurusurya "

>

> <balagurusurya@ ...> wrote:

>

> > Dear VP,

>

> >

>

> > That made an interesting reading and also reflects your expertise

in

>

> > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

>

> >

>

> > Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological

>

> pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA alliance ?

>

> >

>

> > Best

>

> >

>

> > M Nair

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com, " vijayadas_pradeep "

>

> > <vijayadas_pradeep@ > wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear members

>

>

>

> I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last

>

> September

>

> http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468

>

>

>

> Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after july-

August

>

> 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

>

> maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards the fag

>

> end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.

>

>

>

> Regds

>

> Pradeep

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thank you Praveen ji

Yes shri Khandpal is well learned.

Regards

Pradeep

 

, " Praveen Agrawal " <pkumar24

wrote:

>

> Congratulations to Pradeep. I saw the old mail (message no. 18468)

and

> greatly appreciate the inputs of Shri Prakash Kandpal. His ideas

are very

> logical and convincing, astrologically. Congratulations to him.

>

> Praveen Kumar

>

> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <

> krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> > Congratulations Sir!

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > --- On Sun, 13/7/08, vijayadas_pradeep

<vijayadas_pradeep<vijayadas_pradeep%40>>

> > wrote:

> > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep<vijayadas_pradeep%

40>

> > >

> > UPA Government - Communist withdrawal

> > <%40>

> > Sunday, 13 July, 2008, 1:44 AM

> >

> >

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding communist

> >

> > withdrawal, during september 2007.

> >

> > With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug 2008 has

> >

> > come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the communication

that

> >

> > i had in ancient astrology group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

> >

> > ------------

> >

> > Dear Madhu ji

> >

> > To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the

political

> >

> > possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS grace.

> >

> > However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo

> >

> > during/after the said months were considered.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Pradeep

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com, " Balagurusurya "

> >

> > <balagurusurya@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear VP,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > That made an interesting reading and also reflects your

expertise in

> >

> > > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological

> >

> > pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA

alliance ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Best

> >

> > >

> >

> > > M Nair

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> >

> > > <vijayadas_pradeep@ > wrote:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Dear members

> >

> > I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last

> >

> > September

> >

> > http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468

> >

> > Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after july-

August

> >

> > 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

> >

> > maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards the fag

> >

> > end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.

> >

> > Regds

> >

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Pradeep,

 

That was a good prediction. Happened almost when Mars was in a degree

of Saturn and behind Saturn. Interesting is that not so?

 

Take care,

Chandrashekhar.

 

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

 

 

Dear Respected members

 

I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding communist

withdrawal, during september 2007.

 

With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug 2008 has

come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the communication that

i had in this group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

------------

Dear Madhu ji

 

To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the political

possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS grace.

 

However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo

during/after the said months were considered.

 

Regards

Pradeep

 

,

"Balagurusurya"

<balagurusurya wrote:

> Dear VP,

>

> That made an interesting reading and also reflects your expertise

in

> Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

>

> Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological

pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA alliance ?

>

> Best

>

> M Nair

>

>

> ,

"vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear members

 

I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last

September

/message/18468

 

Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after july-August

2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards the fag

end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.

 

Regds

Pradeep

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji

 

Thanks.It is the belessings of Gurus including you and Lord.

It will be educative if you could explain your understanding

regarding Mars behind Saturn.

 

Respect

Pradeep

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> That was a good prediction. Happened almost when Mars was in a

degree of

> Saturn and behind Saturn. Interesting is that not so?

>

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding communist

> > withdrawal, during september 2007.

> >

> > With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug 2008 has

> > come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the communication

that

> > i had in this group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

> > ------------

> > Dear Madhu ji

> >

> > To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the

political

> > possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS grace.

> >

> > However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo

> > during/after the said months were considered.

> >

> > Regards

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> > <%

40>, " Balagurusurya "

> > <balagurusurya@> wrote:

> > > Dear VP,

> > >

> > > That made an interesting reading and also reflects your

expertise in

> > > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

> > >

> > > Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological

> > pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA

alliance ?

> > >

> > > Best

> > >

> > > M Nair

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > <%

40>, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members

> >

> > I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last

> > September

> > /message/18468

> > </message/18468>

> >

> > Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after july-

August

> > 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

> > maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards the fag

> > end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

>

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Dear Shri Tendulkar

 

I am still learning.I was mentioning about Mars /Saturn.Logic was not

very sound.It just got right.

 

Regards

Pradeep

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " Ramesh Tendulkar "

<ram_t_1968 wrote:

>

> Please post the prediction, with Mercury/Jupiter influences that you

> have talked about.

>

> Ragunatha Rao has also predicted that the life of UPA govt is

minimum

> 2.5 years (he posted in 3 groups at least).

>

> I don't understand those power calculation techniques. Hence the

request.

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing , " vijayadas_pradeep "

> <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding communist

> > withdrawal, during september 2007.

> >

> > With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug 2008

has

> > come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the communication

that

> > i had in this group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

> > ------------

> > Dear Madhu ji

> >

> > To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the

political

> > possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS grace.

> >

> > However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo

> > during/after the said months were considered.

> >

> > Regards

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Balagurusurya "

> > <balagurusurya@> wrote:

> > > Dear VP,

> > >

> > > That made an interesting reading and also reflects your

expertise in

> > > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

> > >

> > > Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological

> > pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA

alliance ?

> > >

> > > Best

> > >

> > > M Nair

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members

> >

> > I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last

> > September

> > /message/18468

> >

> > Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after july-

August

> > 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

> > maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards the

fag

> > end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

>

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Dear Pradeep,

 

I have always held that Mars indicates the autocratic (I include the

old fashioned Communist regimes in that) and even military regimes and

Saturn the Democratic ones. I am sure you can understand what happens

when the field marshal attacks the institute of people in the King's

domain or Government. Need I explain more?

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

 

 

Dear Chandrashekhar ji

 

Thanks.It is the belessings of Gurus including you and Lord.

It will be educative if you could explain your understanding

regarding Mars behind Saturn.

 

Respect

Pradeep

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> That was a good prediction. Happened almost when Mars was in a

degree of

> Saturn and behind Saturn. Interesting is that not so?

>

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > Dear Respected members

> >

> > I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding

communist

> > withdrawal, during september 2007.

> >

> > With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug

2008 has

> > come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the

communication

that

> > i had in this group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

> > ------------

> > Dear Madhu ji

> >

> > To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the

political

> > possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS

grace.

> >

> > However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo

> > during/after the said months were considered.

> >

> > Regards

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

 

> > <%

40>, "Balagurusurya"

> > <balagurusurya@> wrote:

> > > Dear VP,

> > >

> > > That made an interesting reading and also reflects your

expertise in

> > > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

> > >

> > > Just for the purpose of learning , what was the

Astrological

> > pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA

alliance ?

> > >

> > > Best

> > >

> > > M Nair

> > >

> > >

> > >

 

> > <%

40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members

> >

> > I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last

> > September

> > /message/18468

 

> > </message/18468>

> >

> > Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after

july-

August

> > 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

> > maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards

the fag

> > end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

>

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Dear Friends,

Let me just transgress and also put the element of faith into the thread,If Iam permitted.We r hearing Baba Barfani known otheriwse as Lord Amarnathaji with his abode in unsurmountable Himalayas is receeding.This threat is coming to even Lord through energy represented by Mars.So a thought comes that nothing is impossible as several politicians too think and act.

All of us know Saturn as a slow man treads slowly to work for a change and teach the ideals to normal way by posing hard and light moments of life.saturn too is also a form of energy in cold shape ( may be consisting of wind/air and water).The driving forces of both these planets a fast one and slow are different if at all we intend to think in Natures ways.Saturn reperesents for masses and Mars represents youth.So for the youth to be a goat and follow masses or majority is difficult choice.In the process possibilty for instability sets in as the direction is swayed into masses.Dictator reprented by harshness and rigidity and lack of symapathy and execute what he wants is jsut ont Mars alone but needs agreat amount of support of Saturn too.He needs to freeze his mind to execure depending only on his strength and and o then and there without giving any room for good and bad to think.The Satwick Sun as a Royal palnets and his cabinet work through cosmic

universe to bring balance or otherwise.If it is destability a perverted state that grips unknown fear due to uncertainity tries to unseat rulers.Here majority or masses or theforces represented Saturn tend to take lead.If this can be termed as Adharma and anarchy only to lead on to a clear a a quite and peaceful path.This course ofcourse is not easy and can not be attained in over night.The Nature very active in a dormant state exerts make us to feel the way forces work,

The UPA Govet destabilty found due to the palnets position in gochara is bound to have impact on Natal forces for mena as well as Nations.After seeing how two leaders fought betweeen themselvee for democratic nominationa nd b4 that our neighbouring country transforming in to democratic set up,we r gearing up for confusion through nuclear deal only to sort our and take a path that can put the Nation tact.Venus with ketu in Cancer, a movable water sign is affecting the lord that is moon and the teacher or the learned Jupiter coming in to a state of retrigression due to the influence of Sun or the King in fiery sign of sagittarus is too strong and rigid to precipatate issues.where as in progression chart for this time is getting aspected by Mars in watery sign.The lagna I get while i think of the issue is Pisces ruled by Jupiter,again a watery sign.Mars in cancer in Navamsa in satru bhva is found to be very discomfortable as the ttrverse fro from a fiery

sign in lagna/rasi to watery sign to cancer only to get cooled off and get a wafery acceptance of democrats.Nuclear is exoected to c through our country to stabilise and bring back wisdom in politiacla leadership.we can not think however to to think in short duaration.A trial of strength means for me the planets in their true form r trying to come out from the grip and control of Royal King and find how they can also come into recognition.So saturn in fiery sign is with discomfort under stress and in the company of Mars working like the lord of sign that is Sun.

Summary in the nd for me these exrtions of Nature do lead back to us through collective wisdomto the road of success.venus in cancer sign leads way to bring in harmony.

vrkrishnan--- On Tue, 7/15/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekharRe: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: UPA Government - Communist withdrawalVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 3:43 PM

 

 

Dear Pradeep,I have always held that Mars indicates the autocratic (I include the old fashioned Communist regimes in that) and even military regimes and Saturn the Democratic ones. I am sure you can understand what happens when the field marshal attacks the institute of people in the King's domain or Government. Need I explain more?Chandrashekhar.vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

 

Dear Chandrashekhar jiThanks.It is the belessings of Gurus including you and Lord.It will be educative if you could explain your understanding regarding Mars behind Saturn.RespectPradeepVedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har wrote:>> Dear Pradeep,> > That was a good prediction. Happened almost when Mars was in a degree of > Saturn and behind Saturn. Interesting is that not so?> > Take care,> Chandrashekhar.> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:> >> > Dear Respected members> >> > I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding communist> > withdrawal, during september 2007.> >> > With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned

July-Aug 2008 has> > come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the communication that> > i had in this group with Madhu ji during april 2008.> > ------------> > Dear Madhu ji> >> > To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the political> > possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS grace.> >> > However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo> > during/after the said months were considered.> >> > Regards> > Pradeep> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>, "Balagurusurya"> >

<balagurusurya@ > wrote:> > > Dear VP,> > >> > > That made an interesting reading and also reflects your expertise in> > > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing> > >> > > Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological> > pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA alliance ?> > >> > > Best> > >> > > M Nair> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>, "vijayadas_pradeep"> > > <vijayadas_pradeep@ > wrote:> > > >> > >

> Dear members> >> > I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last> > September> > http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468 > > <http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468>> >> > Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after july-August> > 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to> > maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards the fag> > end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.> >> > Regds> > Pradeep> >> >>

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Pls. dont forget Rahu's role.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> Let me just transgress and also put the element of faith into the

thread,If Iam permitted.We r hearing Baba Barfani known otheriwse as

Lord Amarnathaji with his abode in unsurmountable Himalayas is

receeding.This threat is coming to even Lord through energy

represented by Mars.So a thought comes that nothing is impossible as

several politicians too think and act.

> All of us know Saturn as a slow man treads slowly to work for a

change and teach the ideals to normal way by posing hard and light

moments of life.saturn too is also a form of energy in cold shape (

may be consisting of wind/air and water).The driving forces of both

these planets a fast one and slow are different if at all we intend

to think in Natures ways.Saturn reperesents for masses and Mars

represents youth.So for the youth to be a goat and follow masses or

majority is difficult choice.In the process possibilty for

instability sets in as the direction is swayed into masses.Dictator

reprented by harshness and rigidity and lack of symapathy and execute

what he wants is jsut ont Mars alone but needs agreat amount of

support of Saturn too.He needs to freeze his mind to execure

depending only on his strength and and o then and there without

giving any room for good and bad to think.The Satwick Sun as a Royal

palnets and his cabinet work through cosmic

> universe to bring balance or otherwise.If it is destability a

perverted state that grips unknown fear  due to uncertainity tries to

unseat rulers.Here majority or masses or the

> forces represented Saturn tend to take lead.If this can be termed

as Adharma and anarchy only to lead on to a clear a a quite and

peaceful path.This course ofcourse is not easy and can not be

attained in over night.The Nature very active in a dormant state

exerts make us to feel the way forces work,

> The UPA Govet destabilty found due to the palnets position in

gochara is bound to have impact on Natal forces for mena as well as

Nations.After seeing how two leaders fought betweeen themselvee for

democratic nominationa nd b4 that our neighbouring country

transforming in to democratic set up,we r gearing up for confusion

through nuclear deal only to sort our and take a path that can put

the Nation tact.Venus with ketu in Cancer, a movable water sign is

affecting the lord that is moon and the teacher or the learned

Jupiter coming in to a state of retrigression due to the influence of

Sun or the King in fiery sign of sagittarus is too strong and rigid

to precipatate issues.where as in progression chart for this time is

getting aspected by Mars in watery sign.The lagna I get while i think

of the issue is Pisces ruled by Jupiter,again a watery sign.Mars in

cancer in Navamsa in satru bhva is found to be very discomfortable as

the ttrverse fro from a fiery

> sign in lagna/rasi to watery sign to cancer only to get cooled off

and get a wafery acceptance of democrats.Nuclear is exoected to c

through our country to stabilise and bring back wisdom in politiacla

leadership.we can not think however to to think in short duaration.A

trial of strength means for me the planets in their true form r

trying to come out from the grip and control of Royal King and find

how they can also come into recognition.So saturn in fiery sign is

with discomfort under stress and in the company of Mars  working like

the lord of sign that is Sun.

> Summary in the nd for me these exrtions of Nature do lead back to

us through collective wisdomto the road of success.venus in cancer

sign leads way to bring in harmony.

> vrkrishnan

> --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

wrote:

>

> Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

> Re: [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: UPA Government -

Communist withdrawal

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 3:43 PM

Dear Pradeep,

>

> I have always held that Mars indicates the autocratic (I include

the old fashioned Communist regimes in that) and even military

regimes and Saturn the Democratic ones. I am sure you can understand

what happens when the field marshal attacks the institute of people

in the King's domain or Government. Need I explain more?

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji

>

> Thanks.It is the belessings of Gurus including you and Lord.

> It will be educative if you could explain your understanding

> regarding Mars behind Saturn.

>

> Respect

> Pradeep

> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> >

> > That was a good prediction. Happened almost when Mars was in a

> degree of

> > Saturn and behind Saturn. Interesting is that not so?

> >

> > Take care,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Respected members

> > >

> > > I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding

communist

> > > withdrawal, during september 2007.

> > >

> > > With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug 2008

has

> > > come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the

communication

> that

> > > i had in this group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

> > > ------------

> > > Dear Madhu ji

> > >

> > > To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the

> political

> > > possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS

grace.

> > >

> > > However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo

> > > during/after the said months were considered.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %

> 40. com>, " Balagurusurya "

> > > <balagurusurya@ > wrote:

> > > > Dear VP,

> > > >

> > > > That made an interesting reading and also reflects your

> expertise in

> > > > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

> > > >

> > > > Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological

> > > pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA

> alliance ?

> > > >

> > > > Best

> > > >

> > > > M Nair

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %

> 40. com>, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members

> > >

> > > I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last

> > > September

> > > http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468

> > > <http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468>

> > >

> > > Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after july-

> August

> > > 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

> > > maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards the

fag

> > > end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.

> > >

> > > Regds

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Lalit ji,

Considering Parliament meets and moves motion on 22nd,say around 11.39,Rahu will be in 12th to 6th house governed by saturn.Moon will be in 6th in the sign of Aquarius a fixed where saturn moolatrikona rasi exists

..Moon in jupiter nakshtra at 20+degs.Atmakarak mercuri in 10th in own sign and also in punarvasu ruled by jupiter.

In 5th rahu acts like saturn and brings brainstorming and listless discussion in Parliament.

Sun though afflicted is in own sign in 2nd house in navamsa.Navamsa lagna lord in 10th aspected by jupiter retrograde from 4th.Mercury in 12th is also rasi vargottama.These mix up of things will have some balance and wisdom prevails finally.

vrkishnan--- On Wed, 7/16/08, litsol <litsol wrote:

litsol <litsol[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: UPA Government - Communist withdrawalVedic Astrologyandhealing Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 10:55 AM

 

 

Pls. dont forget Rahu's role.regards,Lalit.Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Friends,> Let me just transgress and also put the element of faith into the thread,If Iam permitted.We r hearing Baba Barfani known otheriwse as Lord Amarnathaji with his abode in unsurmountable Himalayas is receeding.This threat is coming to even Lord through energy represented by Mars.So a thought comes that nothing is impossible as several politicians too think and act.> All of us know Saturn as a slow man treads slowly to work for a change and teach the ideals to normal way by posing hard and light moments of life.saturn too is also a form of energy in cold shape ( may be consisting of wind/air and water).The driving forces of both

these planets a fast one and slow are different if at all we intend to think in Natures ways.Saturn reperesents for masses and Mars represents youth.So for the youth to be a goat and follow masses or majority is difficult choice.In the process possibilty for instability sets in as the direction is swayed into masses.Dictator reprented by harshness and rigidity and lack of symapathy and execute what he wants is jsut ont Mars alone but needs agreat amount of support of Saturn too.He needs to freeze his mind to execure depending only on his strength and and o then and there without giving any room for good and bad to think.The Satwick Sun as a Royal palnets and his cabinet work through cosmic> universe to bring balance or otherwise.If it is destability a perverted state that grips unknown fear due to uncertainity tries to unseat rulers.Here majority or masses or the> forces represented

Saturn tend to take lead.If this can be termed as Adharma and anarchy only to lead on to a clear a a quite and peaceful path.This course ofcourse is not easy and can not be attained in over night.The Nature very active in a dormant state exerts make us to feel the way forces work,> The UPA Govet destabilty found due to the palnets position in gochara is bound to have impact on Natal forces for mena as well as Nations.After seeing how two leaders fought betweeen themselvee for democratic nominationa nd b4 that our neighbouring country transforming in to democratic set up,we r gearing up for confusion through nuclear deal only to sort our and take a path that can put the Nation tact.Venus with ketu in Cancer, a movable water sign is affecting the lord that is moon and the teacher or the learned Jupiter coming in to a state of retrigression due to the influence of Sun or the King in fiery sign of

sagittarus is too strong and rigid to precipatate issues.where as in progression chart for this time is getting aspected by Mars in watery sign.The lagna I get while i think of the issue is Pisces ruled by Jupiter,again a watery sign.Mars in cancer in Navamsa in satru bhva is found to be very discomfortable as the ttrverse fro from a fiery> sign in lagna/rasi to watery sign to cancer only to get cooled off and get a wafery acceptance of democrats.Nuclear is exoected to c through our country to stabilise and bring back wisdom in politiacla leadership.we can not think however to to think in short duaration.A trial of strength means for me the planets in their true form r trying to come out from the grip and control of Royal King and find how they can also come into recognition. So saturn in fiery sign is with discomfort under stress and in the company of Mars working like the lord of

sign that is Sun.> Summary in the nd for me these exrtions of Nature do lead back to us through collective wisdomto the road of success.venus in cancer sign leads way to bring in harmony.> vrkrishnan> --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har wrote:> > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har> Re: [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: UPA Government - Communist withdrawal> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com> Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 3:43 PM> > > > > > > Dear Pradeep,> > I have always held that Mars indicates the autocratic (I include the old fashioned Communist regimes in that) and even military regimes and Saturn the Democratic ones. I am sure you can

understand what happens when the field marshal attacks the institute of people in the King's domain or Government. Need I explain more?> > Chandrashekhar.> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji> > Thanks.It is the belessings of Gurus including you and Lord.> It will be educative if you could explain your understanding > regarding Mars behind Saturn.> > Respect> Pradeep> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Chandrashekhar > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:> >> > Dear Pradeep,> > > > That was a good prediction. Happened almost when Mars was in a > degree of > > Saturn and behind Saturn. Interesting is that not so?> > > > Take care,> > Chandrashekhar.> > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:> >

>> > > Dear Respected members> > >> > > I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding communist> > > withdrawal, during september 2007.> > >> > > With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug 2008 has> > > come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the communication > that> > > i had in this group with Madhu ji during april 2008.> > > ------------> > > Dear Madhu ji> > >> > > To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the > political> > > possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS grace.> > >> > > However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo> > > during/after the said months were considered.> > >> > > Regards> >

> Pradeep> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %> 40. com>, "Balagurusurya"> > > <balagurusurya@ > wrote:> > > > Dear VP,> > > >> > > > That made an interesting reading and also reflects your > expertise in> > > > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing> > > >> > > > Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological> > > pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA > alliance ?> > > >> > > > Best> > > >> > > > M Nair> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %>

40. com>, "vijayadas_pradeep"> > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear members> > >> > > I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last> > > September> > > http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468 > > > <http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468>> > >> > > Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after july-> August> > > 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to> > > maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards the fag> > > end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.> > >> > >

Regds> > > Pradeep> > >> > >> >>

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True, Rahu was in action, VP Singh, Chandrasekhar, Deva Gowda & Vajpayee (moved into Gulika, when the vote was lost by 1 vote. I am told 3 MPs rushed in at the last moment and voted and one was Mulayum Singh & Other Amar Singh then). I must have read this in Star Teller or Astrology magazine.Can someone post the correlation with exact dates? Amma Saranam!RegardsRameshhttp://www.amma.orglitsol <litsolVedic Astrologyandhealing Sent: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008 8:25:06 PM[Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: UPA Government - Communist withdrawal

 

Pls. dont forget Rahu's role.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> Let me just transgress and also put the element of faith into the

thread,If Iam permitted.We r hearing Baba Barfani known otheriwse as

Lord Amarnathaji with his abode in unsurmountable Himalayas is

receeding.This threat is coming to even Lord through energy

represented by Mars.So a thought comes that nothing is impossible as

several politicians too think and act.

> All of us know Saturn as a slow man treads slowly to work for a

change and teach the ideals to normal way by posing hard and light

moments of life.saturn too is also a form of energy in cold shape (

may be consisting of wind/air and water).The driving forces of both

these planets a fast one and slow are different if at all we intend

to think in Natures ways.Saturn reperesents for masses and Mars

represents youth.So for the youth to be a goat and follow masses or

majority is difficult choice.In the process possibilty for

instability sets in as the direction is swayed into masses.Dictator

reprented by harshness and rigidity and lack of symapathy and execute

what he wants is jsut ont Mars alone but needs agreat amount of

support of Saturn too.He needs to freeze his mind to execure

depending only on his strength and and o then and there without

giving any room for good and bad to think.The Satwick Sun as a Royal

palnets and his cabinet work through cosmic

> universe to bring balance or otherwise.If it is destability a

perverted state that grips unknown fear due to uncertainity tries to

unseat rulers.Here majority or masses or the

> forces represented Saturn tend to take lead.If this can be termed

as Adharma and anarchy only to lead on to a clear a a quite and

peaceful path.This course ofcourse is not easy and can not be

attained in over night.The Nature very active in a dormant state

exerts make us to feel the way forces work,

> The UPA Govet destabilty found due to the palnets position in

gochara is bound to have impact on Natal forces for mena as well as

Nations.After seeing how two leaders fought betweeen themselvee for

democratic nominationa nd b4 that our neighbouring country

transforming in to democratic set up,we r gearing up for confusion

through nuclear deal only to sort our and take a path that can put

the Nation tact.Venus with ketu in Cancer, a movable water sign is

affecting the lord that is moon and the teacher or the learned

Jupiter coming in to a state of retrigression due to the influence of

Sun or the King in fiery sign of sagittarus is too strong and rigid

to precipatate issues.where as in progression chart for this time is

getting aspected by Mars in watery sign.The lagna I get while i think

of the issue is Pisces ruled by Jupiter,again a watery sign.Mars in

cancer in Navamsa in satru bhva is found to be very discomfortable as

the ttrverse fro from a fiery

> sign in lagna/rasi to watery sign to cancer only to get cooled off

and get a wafery acceptance of democrats.Nuclear is exoected to c

through our country to stabilise and bring back wisdom in politiacla

leadership.we can not think however to to think in short duaration.A

trial of strength means for me the planets in their true form r

trying to come out from the grip and control of Royal King and find

how they can also come into recognition. So saturn in fiery sign is

with discomfort under stress and in the company of Mars working like

the lord of sign that is Sun.

> Summary in the nd for me these exrtions of Nature do lead back to

us through collective wisdomto the road of success.venus in cancer

sign leads way to bring in harmony.

> vrkrishnan

> --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har

wrote:

>

> Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har

> Re: [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: UPA Government -

Communist withdrawal

> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com

> Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 3:43 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> I have always held that Mars indicates the autocratic (I include

the old fashioned Communist regimes in that) and even military

regimes and Saturn the Democratic ones. I am sure you can understand

what happens when the field marshal attacks the institute of people

in the King's domain or Government. Need I explain more?

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji

>

> Thanks.It is the belessings of Gurus including you and Lord.

> It will be educative if you could explain your understanding

> regarding Mars behind Saturn.

>

> Respect

> Pradeep

> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> >

> > That was a good prediction. Happened almost when Mars was in a

> degree of

> > Saturn and behind Saturn. Interesting is that not so?

> >

> > Take care,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Respected members

> > >

> > > I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding

communist

> > > withdrawal, during september 2007.

> > >

> > > With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug 2008

has

> > > come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the

communication

> that

> > > i had in this group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

> > > ------------

> > > Dear Madhu ji

> > >

> > > To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the

> political

> > > possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS

grace.

> > >

> > > However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo

> > > during/after the said months were considered.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %

> 40. com>, "Balagurusurya"

> > > <balagurusurya@ > wrote:

> > > > Dear VP,

> > > >

> > > > That made an interesting reading and also reflects your

> expertise in

> > > > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

> > > >

> > > > Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological

> > > pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA

> alliance ?

> > > >

> > > > Best

> > > >

> > > > M Nair

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %

> 40. com>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members

> > >

> > > I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last

> > > September

> > > http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468

> > > <http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468>

> > >

> > > Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after july-

> August

> > > 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

> > > maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards the

fag

> > > end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.

> > >

> > > Regds

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

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We expect to hear from Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, the senior most astro

figure in the group. I missed today Sri Sridhar Govindan, who once

asked me " Lalit, why u want to learn astrology, you dont need it " .

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , ramesh tendulkar

<ram_t_1968 wrote:

>

> True, Rahu was in action, VP Singh, Chandrasekhar, Deva Gowda &

Vajpayee (moved into Gulika, when the vote was lost by 1 vote. I am

told 3 MPs rushed in at the last moment and voted and one was Mulayum

Singh & Other Amar Singh then). I must have read this in Star Teller

or Astrology magazine.

>

> Can someone post the correlation with exact dates?

>

> Amma Saranam!

>

> Regards

> Ramesh

> http://www.amma.org

>

>

>

>

> litsol <litsol

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> Wednesday, 16 July, 2008 8:25:06 PM

> [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: UPA Government - Communist

withdrawal

>

>

> Pls. dont forget Rahu's role.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > Let me just transgress and also put the element of faith into the

> thread,If Iam permitted.We r hearing Baba Barfani known otheriwse

as

> Lord Amarnathaji with his abode in unsurmountable Himalayas is

> receeding.This threat is coming to even Lord through energy

> represented by Mars.So a thought comes that nothing is impossible

as

> several politicians too think and act.

> > All of us know Saturn as a slow man treads slowly to work for a

> change and teach the ideals to normal way by posing hard and light

> moments of life.saturn too is also a form of energy in cold shape (

> may be consisting of wind/air and water).The driving forces of both

> these planets a fast one and slow are different if at all we intend

> to think in Natures ways.Saturn reperesents for masses and Mars

> represents youth.So for the youth to be a goat and follow masses or

> majority is difficult choice.In the process possibilty for

> instability sets in as the direction is swayed into masses.Dictator

> reprented by harshness and rigidity and lack of symapathy and

execute

> what he wants is jsut ont Mars alone but needs agreat amount of

> support of Saturn too.He needs to freeze his mind to execure

> depending only on his strength and and o then and there without

> giving any room for good and bad to think.The Satwick Sun as a

Royal

> palnets and his cabinet work through cosmic

> > universe to bring balance or otherwise.If it is destability a

> perverted state that grips unknown fear due to uncertainity tries

to

> unseat rulers.Here majority or masses or the

> > forces represented Saturn tend to take lead.If this can be termed

> as Adharma and anarchy only to lead on to a clear a a quite and

> peaceful path.This course ofcourse is not easy and can not be

> attained in over night.The Nature very active in a dormant state

> exerts make us to feel the way forces work,

> > The UPA Govet destabilty found due to the palnets position in

> gochara is bound to have impact on Natal forces for mena as well as

> Nations.After seeing how two leaders fought betweeen themselvee for

> democratic nominationa nd b4 that our neighbouring country

> transforming in to democratic set up,we r gearing up for confusion

> through nuclear deal only to sort our and take a path that can put

> the Nation tact.Venus with ketu in Cancer, a movable water sign is

> affecting the lord that is moon and the teacher or the learned

> Jupiter coming in to a state of retrigression due to the influence

of

> Sun or the King in fiery sign of sagittarus is too strong and rigid

> to precipatate issues.where as in progression chart for this time

is

> getting aspected by Mars in watery sign.The lagna I get while i

think

> of the issue is Pisces ruled by Jupiter,again a watery sign.Mars in

> cancer in Navamsa in satru bhva is found to be very discomfortable

as

> the ttrverse fro from a fiery

> > sign in lagna/rasi to watery sign to cancer only to get cooled

off

> and get a wafery acceptance of democrats.Nuclear is exoected to c

> through our country to stabilise and bring back wisdom in

politiacla

> leadership.we can not think however to to think in short

duaration.A

> trial of strength means for me the planets in their true form r

> trying to come out from the grip and control of Royal King and find

> how they can also come into recognition. So saturn in fiery sign is

> with discomfort under stress and in the company of Mars working

like

> the lord of sign that is Sun.

> > Summary in the nd for me these exrtions of Nature do lead back to

> us through collective wisdomto the road of success.venus in cancer

> sign leads way to bring in harmony.

> > vrkrishnan

> > --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har@>

> > Re: [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: UPA Government -

> Communist withdrawal

> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com

> > Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 3:43 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> >

> > I have always held that Mars indicates the autocratic (I include

> the old fashioned Communist regimes in that) and even military

> regimes and Saturn the Democratic ones. I am sure you can

understand

> what happens when the field marshal attacks the institute of people

> in the King's domain or Government. Need I explain more?

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > Thanks.It is the belessings of Gurus including you and Lord.

> > It will be educative if you could explain your understanding

> > regarding Mars behind Saturn.

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > >

> > > That was a good prediction. Happened almost when Mars was in a

> > degree of

> > > Saturn and behind Saturn. Interesting is that not so?

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Respected members

> > > >

> > > > I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding

> communist

> > > > withdrawal, during september 2007.

> > > >

> > > > With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug

2008

> has

> > > > come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the

> communication

> > that

> > > > i had in this group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

> > > > ------------

> > > > Dear Madhu ji

> > > >

> > > > To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the

> > political

> > > > possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS

> grace.

> > > >

> > > > However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo

> > > > during/after the said months were considered.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %

> > 40. com>, " Balagurusurya "

> > > > <balagurusurya@ > wrote:

> > > > > Dear VP,

> > > > >

> > > > > That made an interesting reading and also reflects your

> > expertise in

> > > > > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

> > > > >

> > > > > Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological

> > > > pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA

> > alliance ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Best

> > > > >

> > > > > M Nair

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %

> > 40. com>, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear members

> > > >

> > > > I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last

> > > > September

> > > > http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468

> > > > <http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468>

> > > >

> > > > Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after

july-

> > August

> > > > 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

> > > > maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards

the

> fag

> > > > end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.

> > > >

> > > > Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji

 

Thank you for the explanation. Yes your points are valid regarding

Mars and Saturn. Being the commander the nature of Mars is

understandable.

 

Respect

Pardeep

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing , Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> I have always held that Mars indicates the autocratic (I include

the old

> fashioned Communist regimes in that) and even military regimes and

> Saturn the Democratic ones. I am sure you can understand what

happens

> when the field marshal attacks the institute of people in the

King's

> domain or Government. Need I explain more?

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > Thanks.It is the belessings of Gurus including you and Lord.

> > It will be educative if you could explain your understanding

> > regarding Mars behind Saturn.

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > >

> > > That was a good prediction. Happened almost when Mars was in a

> > degree of

> > > Saturn and behind Saturn. Interesting is that not so?

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Respected members

> > > >

> > > > I would like to share the analysis done by me regarding

communist

> > > > withdrawal, during september 2007.

> > > >

> > > > With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned July-Aug

2008 has

> > > > come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the

communication

> > that

> > > > i had in this group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

> > > > ------------

> > > > Dear Madhu ji

> > > >

> > > > To be honest,during my first mail,i was just analysing the

> > political

> > > > possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is purely HIS

grace.

> > > >

> > > > However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars in Leo

> > > > during/after the said months were considered.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%

> > 40>, " Balagurusurya "

> > > > <balagurusurya@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear VP,

> > > > >

> > > > > That made an interesting reading and also reflects your

> > expertise in

> > > > > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

> > > > >

> > > > > Just for the purpose of learning , what was the Astrological

> > > > pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point for UPA

> > alliance ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Best

> > > > >

> > > > > M Nair

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%

> > 40>, " vijayadas_pradeep "

> > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear members

> > > >

> > > > I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group site last

> > > > September

> > > > /message/18468

> > </message/18468>

> > > > </message/18468

> > </message/18468>>

> > > >

> > > > Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only after

july-

> > August

> > > > 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

> > > > maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing towards

the fag

> > > > end.Planetary placements might be able to demonstrate this.

> > > >

> > > > Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Pradeep,

 

Our sages gave us many principles in so few words that it becomes

necessary to contemplate on each of their words to understand the

underlying flavours of what they wanted to convey.

 

Take care,

Chandrashekhar.

 

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

 

 

Dear Chandrashekhar ji

 

Thank you for the explanation. Yes your points are valid regarding

Mars and Saturn. Being the commander the nature of Mars is

understandable.

 

Respect

Pardeep

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Pradeep,

>

> I have always held that Mars indicates the autocratic (I include

the old

> fashioned Communist regimes in that) and even military regimes and

 

> Saturn the Democratic ones. I am sure you can understand what

happens

> when the field marshal attacks the institute of people in the

King's

> domain or Government. Need I explain more?

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > Thanks.It is the belessings of Gurus including you and Lord.

> > It will be educative if you could explain your understanding

> > regarding Mars behind Saturn.

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> > Vedic Astrologyandhealing

 

> > <Vedic Astrologyandhealing%40>,

 

Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > >

> > > That was a good prediction. Happened almost when Mars

was in a

> > degree of

> > > Saturn and behind Saturn. Interesting is that not so?

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Respected members

> > > >

> > > > I would like to share the analysis done by me

regarding

communist

> > > > withdrawal, during september 2007.

> > > >

> > > > With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned

July-Aug

2008 has

> > > > come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the

communication

> > that

> > > > i had in this group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

> > > > ------------

> > > > Dear Madhu ji

> > > >

> > > > To be honest,during my first mail,i was just

analysing the

> > political

> > > > possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is

purely HIS

grace.

> > > >

> > > > However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars

in Leo

> > > > during/after the said months were considered.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > >

 

> > <%40>

> > > > <%

> > 40>, "Balagurusurya"

> > > > <balagurusurya@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear VP,

> > > > >

> > > > > That made an interesting reading and also

reflects your

> > expertise in

> > > > > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

> > > > >

> > > > > Just for the purpose of learning , what was

the Astrological

> > > > pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point

for UPA

> > alliance ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Best

> > > > >

> > > > > M Nair

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

 

> > <%40>

> > > > <%

> > 40>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear members

> > > >

> > > > I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group

site last

> > > > September

> > > > /message/18468

 

> > </message/18468>

> > > > </message/18468

 

> > </message/18468>>

> > > >

> > > > Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only

after

july-

> > August

> > > > 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

> > > > maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing

towards

the fag

> > > > end.Planetary placements might be able to

demonstrate this.

> > > >

> > > > Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Lalit,

 

Rahu is a slow mover. For last minute drama, it is more likely to be

the faster moving planets that could have a role. For example look at

position of Moon and Mars on the day the majority is to be proven. Huge

drama, tempers, tantrums and underhand dealings there.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

litsol wrote:

 

 

We expect to hear from Sri Chandrashekhar Ji, the senior most

astro

figure in the group. I missed today Sri Sridhar Govindan, who once

asked me "Lalit, why u want to learn astrology, you dont need it".

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

Vedic Astrologyandhealing ,

ramesh tendulkar

<ram_t_1968 wrote:

>

> True, Rahu was in action, VP Singh, Chandrasekhar, Deva Gowda

&

Vajpayee (moved into Gulika, when the vote was lost by 1 vote. I am

told 3 MPs rushed in at the last moment and voted and one was Mulayum

Singh & Other Amar Singh then). I must have read this in Star

Teller

or Astrology magazine.

>

> Can someone post the correlation with exact dates?

>

> Amma Saranam!

>

> Regards

> Ramesh

> http://www.amma.org

>

>

>

>

> litsol <litsol

> Vedic Astrologyandhealing

> Wednesday, 16 July, 2008 8:25:06 PM

> [Vedic Astrologyandhealing] Re: UPA Government -

Communist

withdrawal

>

>

> Pls. dont forget Rahu's role.

>

> regards,

> Lalit.

>

> Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com, vattem krishnan

 

> <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > Let me just transgress and also put the element of faith into

the

> thread,If Iam permitted.We r hearing Baba Barfani known otheriwse

as

> Lord Amarnathaji with his abode in unsurmountable Himalayas is

> receeding.This threat is coming to even Lord through energy

> represented by Mars.So a thought comes that nothing is impossible

as

> several politicians too think and act.

> > All of us know Saturn as a slow man treads slowly to work for

a

> change and teach the ideals to normal way by posing hard and light

 

> moments of life.saturn too is also a form of energy in cold shape

(

> may be consisting of wind/air and water).The driving forces of

both

> these planets a fast one and slow are different if at all we

intend

> to think in Natures ways.Saturn reperesents for masses and Mars

> represents youth.So for the youth to be a goat and follow masses

or

> majority is difficult choice.In the process possibilty for

> instability sets in as the direction is swayed into

masses.Dictator

> reprented by harshness and rigidity and lack of symapathy and

execute

> what he wants is jsut ont Mars alone but needs agreat amount of

> support of Saturn too.He needs to freeze his mind to execure

> depending only on his strength and and o then and there without

> giving any room for good and bad to think.The Satwick Sun as a

Royal

> palnets and his cabinet work through cosmic

> > universe to bring balance or otherwise.If it is destability a

 

> perverted state that grips unknown fear due to uncertainity tries

to

> unseat rulers.Here majority or masses or the

> > forces represented Saturn tend to take lead.If this can be

termed

> as Adharma and anarchy only to lead on to a clear a a quite and

> peaceful path.This course ofcourse is not easy and can not be

> attained in over night.The Nature very active in a dormant state

> exerts make us to feel the way forces work,

> > The UPA Govet destabilty found due to the palnets position in

 

> gochara is bound to have impact on Natal forces for mena as well

as

> Nations.After seeing how two leaders fought betweeen themselvee

for

> democratic nominationa nd b4 that our neighbouring country

> transforming in to democratic set up,we r gearing up for confusion

 

> through nuclear deal only to sort our and take a path that can put

 

> the Nation tact.Venus with ketu in Cancer, a movable water sign is

 

> affecting the lord that is moon and the teacher or the learned

> Jupiter coming in to a state of retrigression due to the influence

 

of

> Sun or the King in fiery sign of sagittarus is too strong and

rigid

> to precipatate issues.where as in progression chart for this time

is

> getting aspected by Mars in watery sign.The lagna I get while i

think

> of the issue is Pisces ruled by Jupiter,again a watery sign.Mars

in

> cancer in Navamsa in satru bhva is found to be very discomfortable

 

as

> the ttrverse fro from a fiery

> > sign in lagna/rasi to watery sign to cancer only to get

cooled

off

> and get a wafery acceptance of democrats.Nuclear is exoected to c

> through our country to stabilise and bring back wisdom in

politiacla

> leadership.we can not think however to to think in short

duaration.A

> trial of strength means for me the planets in their true form r

> trying to come out from the grip and control of Royal King and

find

> how they can also come into recognition. So saturn in fiery sign

is

> with discomfort under stress and in the company of Mars working

like

> the lord of sign that is Sun.

> > Summary in the nd for me these exrtions of Nature do lead

back to

> us through collective wisdomto the road of success.venus in cancer

 

> sign leads way to bring in harmony.

> > vrkrishnan

> > --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek

har@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har@>

> > Re: [Vedic Astrologyandh ealing] Re: UPA Government -

 

> Communist withdrawal

> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com

> > Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 3:43 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> >

> > I have always held that Mars indicates the autocratic (I

include

> the old fashioned Communist regimes in that) and even military

> regimes and Saturn the Democratic ones. I am sure you can

understand

> what happens when the field marshal attacks the institute of

people

> in the King's domain or Government. Need I explain more?

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> >

> > Thanks.It is the belessings of Gurus including you and Lord.

> > It will be educative if you could explain your understanding

> > regarding Mars behind Saturn.

> >

> > Respect

> > Pradeep

> > Vedic Astrologyandhe aling@ s.com,

Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > >

> > > That was a good prediction. Happened almost when Mars

was in a

> > degree of

> > > Saturn and behind Saturn. Interesting is that not so?

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Respected members

> > > >

> > > > I would like to share the analysis done by me

regarding

> communist

> > > > withdrawal, during september 2007.

> > > >

> > > > With God's and Guru's grace the period mentioned

July-Aug

2008

> has

> > > > come true. I am posting the excerpts,including the

> communication

> > that

> > > > i had in this group with Madhu ji during april 2008.

> > > > ------------

> > > > Dear Madhu ji

> > > >

> > > > To be honest,during my first mail,i was just

analysing the

> > political

> > > > possibilities based on my intuituve inputs.It is

purely HIS

> grace.

> > > >

> > > > However a simultanoeus inlfuence of Saturn and Mars

in Leo

> > > > during/after the said months were considered.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %

> > 40. com>, "Balagurusurya"

> > > > <balagurusurya@ > wrote:

> > > > > Dear VP,

> > > > >

> > > > > That made an interesting reading and also

reflects your

> > expertise in

> > > > > Political Astrology .Thanks for sharing

> > > > >

> > > > > Just for the purpose of learning , what was

the Astrological

> > > > pointer for chosing Jul-Aug'08 as a turning point

for UPA

> > alliance ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Best

> > > > >

> > > > > M Nair

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %

> > 40. com>, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear members

> > > >

> > > > I am copying an analysis published in Jyotish group

site last

> > > > September

> > > > http://groups.

/ group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468

> > > > <http://groups.

/ group/JyotishGro up/message/ 18468>

> > > >

> > > > Thus i feel the withdrawal,if any ,will happen only

after

july-

> > August

> > > > 2008.Thus one will try to enjoy power to

> > > > maximum and then try to get mileage by withdrawing

towards

the

> fag

> > > > end.Planetary placements might be able to

demonstrate this.

> > > >

> > > > Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

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