Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Namaste, I just want to point out a small point I noticed. Take the D-60 (shashtyamsa chart) of Barack Obama: Jupiter in Ar, Saturn & Rahu in Ta, Mars in Ge, Sun in Vi, Venus in Li, Ketu in Sc, Mercury and Moon in Cp. Take the rasi chart of Abraham Lincoln: Lagna, Sun and Mercury in Aq, Venus and Jupiter in Pi, Ketu in Ar, Mars and Rahu in Li, Saturn in Sc, Moon in Cp. IF Obama's D-60 chart has arudha lagna in Virgo and we judge the shashtyamsa from Vi to see past life, we see significant similarities between the two charts. * * * Lincoln's rasi chart had Sun and Mercury in 1st. Obama's D-60 has Sun in a Mercurian sign in 1st (from arudha lagna). Lincoln's 2nd has a strong (exalted) Venus with a strong Jupiter. Obama's 2nd has a strong (moolatrikona) Venus aspected by Jupiter in a friendly sign. Both have Ketu in a Martian sign in 3rd. Lincoln has 4th lord Venus in a sign of Jupiter. Obama has 4th owned by Jupiter and Venus aspecting 4th lord. Lincoln has 5th owned by Mercury. Obama has Mercury in 5th. Lincoln's 6th lord is in a sign of Saturn aspected by Saturn. Obama's 6th is owned and aspected by Saturn. Lincoln's 8th is aspected by Venus and Jupiter. Obama's 8th has Jupiter aspected by Venus. Lincoln's 9th has Mars (a malefic) and Rahu in Venusian sign. Obama's 9th has Saturn (a malefic) and Rahu in a Venusian sign. Lincoln's 10th has Saturn (a malefic) in a Martian sign. Obama's 10th has Mars (a malefic). Lincoln's 12th has Moon and 12th lord owns and aspects lagna too. Obama's 12th is aspected by Moon and 12th lord is in lagna. These are interesting similarities and just wanted to mention them. * * * Scriptures say that the last desire of a person at the moment of death is the basis for the next life. If one has sufficient punya, one may get a chart corresponding to that desire. The last desire should be visible in the punya chakra (death chart). For those who want to study Abraham Lincoln's punya chakra, here is the data: 1865 April 15, 7:22:10 am (LMT), Washington DC. He died under intense medical supervision and the time was recorded by his doctor. The 7th house of desire in this death chart is Sc. That shows the last desires and final thoughts. Take that as lagna to see desire relative to various houses. The key combinations are a very strong Saturn with Rahu in 12th and Mercury, Sun and Ketu aspected by Moon in 6th. Obama has Mercury and Sun together in a sign of Moon and aspected by Ketu and Saturn is opposite them (aspected by Rahu). If you take Aq lagna, these combinations fall in the same houses (6th and 12th) as in Lincoln's punya chakra. In fact, a birthtime of 8 pm for Obama is quite interesting. Events like his marriage, his career, his election etc make perfect sense based on natal dasas as well as TA dasa of relevant annual TP charts. * * * Those interested in punya chakra and next birth chart links can get some practical examples of people with past life recollection in Sri KN Rao's nice book on Karma and Rebirth. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Dear Narasimha I find past life theories interesting for Obama. I was wondering if he may have been a great Egyptian Pharoah in his previous life, though have no way of knowing how to find out if this is true! regards M - Narasimha P.V.R. Rao vedic astrology ; sohamsa ; Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:10 AM Lincoln and Obama Link Namaste, I just want to point out a small point I noticed. Take the D-60 (shashtyamsa chart) of Barack Obama: Jupiter in Ar, Saturn & Rahu in Ta, Mars in Ge, Sun in Vi, Venus in Li, Ketu in Sc, Mercury and Moon in Cp. Take the rasi chart of Abraham Lincoln: Lagna, Sun and Mercury in Aq, Venus and Jupiter in Pi, Ketu in Ar, Mars and Rahu in Li, Saturn in Sc, Moon in Cp. IF Obama's D-60 chart has arudha lagna in Virgo and we judge the shashtyamsa from Vi to see past life, we see significant similarities between the two charts. * * * Lincoln's rasi chart had Sun and Mercury in 1st. Obama's D-60 has Sun in a Mercurian sign in 1st (from arudha lagna). Lincoln's 2nd has a strong (exalted) Venus with a strong Jupiter. Obama's 2nd has a strong (moolatrikona) Venus aspected by Jupiter in a friendly sign. Both have Ketu in a Martian sign in 3rd. Lincoln has 4th lord Venus in a sign of Jupiter. Obama has 4th owned by Jupiter and Venus aspecting 4th lord. Lincoln has 5th owned by Mercury. Obama has Mercury in 5th. Lincoln's 6th lord is in a sign of Saturn aspected by Saturn. Obama's 6th is owned and aspected by Saturn. Lincoln's 8th is aspected by Venus and Jupiter. Obama's 8th has Jupiter aspected by Venus. Lincoln's 9th has Mars (a malefic) and Rahu in Venusian sign. Obama's 9th has Saturn (a malefic) and Rahu in a Venusian sign. Lincoln's 10th has Saturn (a malefic) in a Martian sign. Obama's 10th has Mars (a malefic). Lincoln's 12th has Moon and 12th lord owns and aspects lagna too. Obama's 12th is aspected by Moon and 12th lord is in lagna. These are interesting similarities and just wanted to mention them. * * * Scriptures say that the last desire of a person at the moment of death is the basis for the next life. If one has sufficient punya, one may get a chart corresponding to that desire. The last desire should be visible in the punya chakra (death chart). For those who want to study Abraham Lincoln's punya chakra, here is the data: 1865 April 15, 7:22:10 am (LMT), Washington DC. He died under intense medical supervision and the time was recorded by his doctor. The 7th house of desire in this death chart is Sc. That shows the last desires and final thoughts. Take that as lagna to see desire relative to various houses. The key combinations are a very strong Saturn with Rahu in 12th and Mercury, Sun and Ketu aspected by Moon in 6th. Obama has Mercury and Sun together in a sign of Moon and aspected by Ketu and Saturn is opposite them (aspected by Rahu). If you take Aq lagna, these combinations fall in the same houses (6th and 12th) as in Lincoln's punya chakra. In fact, a birthtime of 8 pm for Obama is quite interesting. Events like his marriage, his career, his election etc make perfect sense based on natal dasas as well as TA dasa of relevant annual TP charts. * * * Those interested in punya chakra and next birth chart links can get some practical examples of people with past life recollection in Sri KN Rao's nice book on Karma and Rebirth. Best regards, Narasimha ------------------------- Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 This link between Lincoln and Obama is indeed interesting. http://www.johnadams.net/cases/samples/Obama-Trumbull/index.html I am not sure what to make of this website, but it does provide interesting reading. The author claims proof on the reincarnation links. I was surprised by the extensive documentation on each reincarnation case. I would love to hear thoughts on this. --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote: Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr [vedic astrology] Lincoln and Obama Link vedic astrology , sohamsa , Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 3:10 AM Namaste, I just want to point out a small point I noticed. Take the D-60 (shashtyamsa chart) of Barack Obama: Jupiter in Ar, Saturn & Rahu in Ta, Mars in Ge, Sun in Vi, Venus in Li, Ketu in Sc, Mercury and Moon in Cp. Take the rasi chart of Abraham Lincoln: Lagna, Sun and Mercury in Aq, Venus and Jupiter in Pi, Ketu in Ar, Mars and Rahu in Li, Saturn in Sc, Moon in Cp. IF Obama's D-60 chart has arudha lagna in Virgo and we judge the shashtyamsa from Vi to see past life, we see significant similarities between the two charts. * * * Lincoln's rasi chart had Sun and Mercury in 1st. Obama's D-60 has Sun in a Mercurian sign in 1st (from arudha lagna). Lincoln's 2nd has a strong (exalted) Venus with a strong Jupiter. Obama's 2nd has a strong (moolatrikona) Venus aspected by Jupiter in a friendly sign. Both have Ketu in a Martian sign in 3rd. Lincoln has 4th lord Venus in a sign of Jupiter. Obama has 4th owned by Jupiter and Venus aspecting 4th lord. Lincoln has 5th owned by Mercury. Obama has Mercury in 5th. Lincoln's 6th lord is in a sign of Saturn aspected by Saturn. Obama's 6th is owned and aspected by Saturn. Lincoln's 8th is aspected by Venus and Jupiter. Obama's 8th has Jupiter aspected by Venus. Lincoln's 9th has Mars (a malefic) and Rahu in Venusian sign. Obama's 9th has Saturn (a malefic) and Rahu in a Venusian sign. Lincoln's 10th has Saturn (a malefic) in a Martian sign. Obama's 10th has Mars (a malefic). Lincoln's 12th has Moon and 12th lord owns and aspects lagna too. Obama's 12th is aspected by Moon and 12th lord is in lagna. These are interesting similarities and just wanted to mention them. * * * Scriptures say that the last desire of a person at the moment of death is the basis for the next life. If one has sufficient punya, one may get a chart corresponding to that desire. The last desire should be visible in the punya chakra (death chart). For those who want to study Abraham Lincoln's punya chakra, here is the data: 1865 April 15, 7:22:10 am (LMT), Washington DC. He died under intense medical supervision and the time was recorded by his doctor. The 7th house of desire in this death chart is Sc. That shows the last desires and final thoughts. Take that as lagna to see desire relative to various houses. The key combinations are a very strong Saturn with Rahu in 12th and Mercury, Sun and Ketu aspected by Moon in 6th. Obama has Mercury and Sun together in a sign of Moon and aspected by Ketu and Saturn is opposite them (aspected by Rahu). If you take Aq lagna, these combinations fall in the same houses (6th and 12th) as in Lincoln's punya chakra. In fact, a birthtime of 8 pm for Obama is quite interesting. Events like his marriage, his career, his election etc make perfect sense based on natal dasas as well as TA dasa of relevant annual TP charts. * * * Those interested in punya chakra and next birth chart links can get some practical examples of people with past life recollection in Sri KN Rao's nice book on Karma and Rebirth. Best regards, Narasimha ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAst rologer.org/ tarpana Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro. home.comcast. net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAst rologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagan nath.org ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Dear Narasimha, Namashkaar and Happy New Year (it is still January!). I have not read Sri K.N. Rao ji's book but after reading your post I am getting curious to read it, hopefully someday soon. Gandhiji's very public death would be an interesting study of Punya Chakra if I understand it to be the chart of exit? His moment of passing must have been accurately recorded because he died on the spot from what I hear. I wonder where the Mahatma would be born next or if...? But maybe the examination may have already been done by someone, somewhere... Ranjan , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr wrote: > > Namaste, > > I just want to point out a small point I noticed. > > Take the D-60 (shashtyamsa chart) of Barack Obama: Jupiter in Ar, Saturn & Rahu in Ta, Mars in Ge, Sun in Vi, Venus in Li, Ketu in Sc, Mercury and Moon in Cp. > > Take the rasi chart of Abraham Lincoln: Lagna, Sun and Mercury in Aq, Venus and Jupiter in Pi, Ketu in Ar, Mars and Rahu in Li, Saturn in Sc, Moon in Cp. > > IF Obama's D-60 chart has arudha lagna in Virgo and we judge the shashtyamsa from Vi to see past life, we see significant similarities between the two charts. > > * * * > > Lincoln's rasi chart had Sun and Mercury in 1st. Obama's D-60 has Sun in a Mercurian sign in 1st (from arudha lagna). Lincoln's 2nd has a strong (exalted) Venus with a strong Jupiter. Obama's 2nd has a strong (moolatrikona) Venus aspected by Jupiter in a friendly sign. Both have Ketu in a Martian sign in 3rd. Lincoln has 4th lord Venus in a sign of Jupiter. Obama has 4th owned by Jupiter and Venus aspecting 4th lord. Lincoln has 5th owned by Mercury. Obama has Mercury in 5th. Lincoln's 6th lord is in a sign of Saturn aspected by Saturn. Obama's 6th is owned and aspected by Saturn. Lincoln's 8th is aspected by Venus and Jupiter. Obama's 8th has Jupiter aspected by Venus. Lincoln's 9th has Mars (a malefic) and Rahu in Venusian sign. Obama's 9th has Saturn (a malefic) and Rahu in a Venusian sign. Lincoln's 10th has Saturn (a malefic) in a Martian sign. Obama's 10th has Mars (a malefic). Lincoln's 12th has Moon and 12th lord owns and aspects lagna too. Obama's 12th is aspected by Moon and 12th lord is in lagna. > > These are interesting similarities and just wanted to mention them. > > * * * > > Scriptures say that the last desire of a person at the moment of death is the basis for the next life. If one has sufficient punya, one may get a chart corresponding to that desire. The last desire should be visible in the punya chakra (death chart). > > For those who want to study Abraham Lincoln's punya chakra, here is the data: 1865 April 15, 7:22:10 am (LMT), Washington DC. He died under intense medical supervision and the time was recorded by his doctor. > > The 7th house of desire in this death chart is Sc. That shows the last desires and final thoughts. Take that as lagna to see desire relative to various houses. The key combinations are a very strong Saturn with Rahu in 12th and Mercury, Sun and Ketu aspected by Moon in 6th. > > Obama has Mercury and Sun together in a sign of Moon and aspected by Ketu and Saturn is opposite them (aspected by Rahu). If you take Aq lagna, these combinations fall in the same houses (6th and 12th) as in Lincoln's punya chakra. In fact, a birthtime of 8 pm for Obama is quite interesting. Events like his marriage, his career, his election etc make perfect sense based on natal dasas as well as TA dasa of relevant annual TP charts. > > * * * > > Those interested in punya chakra and next birth chart links can get some practical examples of people with past life recollection in Sri KN Rao's nice book on Karma and Rebirth. > > Best regards, > Narasimha > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana > Spirituality: > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Namaste friends, To Goel ji: I am not sure I have adopted correct birthdata. I am not even sure if correct birthdata is available to people, despite the availability of a birth certificate from third parties. IF birthtime is 8 pm, I am showing some very interesting correlations between Obama's D-60 and Lincoln's rasi and also between Obama's rasi vhart and Lincoln's death rasi chart. If it is wrong, I have nothing to say. To Mithundaa: Verifying a birthdata with an event is not a black and white thing. We run into grey areas very often. Sometimes we are 99% sure and sometimes we are not so sure. We sometimes go ahead and write on high profile charts without a high level of confidence in the data. Though I did use the birth certificate data of Obama in the past, justified it with some events and used it for a prediction, I was not confident of the data. My confidence level was around 40%. I agree that making predictions and writing articles based on a birthdata with such a low level of confidence is not the ideal thing to do, but we do it sometimes. And we are right sometimes and wrong sometimes. A good astrologer has a good success rate - though not 100% - with correct data, but the success rate can be far lower with questionable data. Best regards, Narasimha Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana Spirituality: Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > Difficult qusetion has to be answered by Narashimhaji > > If he says that he took wrong birth details then what will happen to > that long mail which was filled-up with ARUDHA only and so > confidently he verified everything even obama's 2 kids(even claimed > that both should be daughters) and obama's academic accolades > > Now if he says that Birth details which he had taken for prediction > were correct then his predictions were wrong so it put big question > on his predictive skill > > Moral of the story is :- If you want to become big then dont predict > for big events like Shri Sanjayji > > Rg & Tx > Mithundaa > C-Grade movies walay > > vedic astrology , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Narasimha ji, > > Are you sure that you have adopted correct birth data of President > Obama? > > Kindly mail to me . > > Regards, > > Â G.K.GOEL > > Ph: 09350311433 > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > INDIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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