Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Dear Gurujan, There are some children who are born in respectable and rich families go for adoption to some other couples (preferably to some of the close relatives). The adoption is not necessarily due to poor financial background. What could be the planetary combination giving such a yoga. Normally we see such yogas in the charts of parents. But what combination induces to this yoga in the chart of the adopted child. Kindly enlighten me on this subject. With regards S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Dear Balasubramanium ji, In the adopted childs Horoscope,check - 1) The 4th house which must be afflicted. 2) The 4th House may be a dual House. 3) The significator of the 4th House may be in the 3rd or 8th,or related with these Lords. 4) He may have a double Head line in his palm, from half the portion of the same, which may be going in a tangent direction from the original Head Line with about 30 degrees angle. The above is not to be taken at face, because the 4th House can be dual house in many cases, and that does not mean that all of these people will be having a foster mother. There are other methods too, to check in the horoscope, but this is by far the best method,as the child is to leave his original mother and go to a new one, hence the 4th house and its significations are to be looked into. Hope this helps. But I will not be available to study any chart and provide any inputs on same. regards, Bhaskar. , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 wrote: > Dear Gurujan, > > > > There > are some children who are born in > respectable and rich families go for adoption to some other > couples (preferably to some of the close > relatives). The adoption is not > necessarily due to poor financial background. > What could be the planetary combination giving such a yoga. Normally we see such yogas in the charts of > parents. But what combination induces to > this yoga in the chart of the adopted child. > Kindly enlighten me on this subject. > > > > With regards > > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Dear Shri Bhaskerji, Thank you for your mail giving the vital pointers for this adoption factor. I shall check the charts and try to find out the points. Thank you once again. With warm regards SRB --- On Tue, 7/4/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Adoption yoga in the case of child Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 10:47 PM Dear Balasubramanium ji, In the adopted childs Horoscope,check - 1) The 4th house which must be afflicted. 2) The 4th House may be a dual House. 3) The significator of the 4th House may be in the 3rd or 8th,or related with these Lords. 4) He may have a double Head line in his palm, from half the portion of the same, which may be going in a tangent direction from the original Head Line with about 30 degrees angle. The above is not to be taken at face, because the 4th House can be dual house in many cases, and that does not mean that all of these people will be having a foster mother. There are other methods too, to check in the horoscope, but this is by far the best method,as the child is to leave his original mother and go to a new one, hence the 4th house and its significations are to be looked into. Hope this helps. But I will not be available to study any chart and provide any inputs on same. regards, Bhaskar. , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gurujan, > > > > There > are some children who are born in > respectable and rich families go for adoption to some other > couples (preferably to some of the close > relatives). The adoption is not > necessarily due to poor financial background. > What could be the planetary combination giving such a yoga. Normally we see such yogas in the charts of > parents. But what combination induces to > this yoga in the chart of the adopted child. > Kindly enlighten me on this subject. > > > > With regards > > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Dear Balasubramanium ji, Apart from what Bhaskar ji has said, you may look at these principles indicating adoption: 1. Mars and saturn conjunct, and moon in 5/7/9 from from these. The child born will be deserted by the mother. If Jupiter aspects moon, the child will live in comfort and have a long life. 2. Saturn in lagna and mars in fall in 7H, Sun in 10H and LL malefic amshas. The child is be deserted by the mother and hence a possible cause of being adopted. For both the above said yogas, it is separative influence on 4/10 houses, 4H being home and 10H is father's kutumb (2H from 9th). 3. Conjunction of moon-mars-sat-mer in one house is said to give two mothers and two fathers (an indication of adoption) 4. Moon in Gemini is said to give two mothers and can become an indication of adoption if other conditions prevail. Dasha at birth should indicate the above houses and their connection with 6/8/12 houses. D-4 and D-12 should also be checked. Dual signs play a sinificant role, if both sun and moon are in dual signs with other indications, it is a good pointer for adoption. Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Dear Smt Neelamji, Thank you for your exhaustive reference on this adoption point. I had already an experience of reading your observations on Apsaras-Temptations- with so much clarity and wisdom of experience. This was also enhanced by Shri RRji and others. I am happy to see you experienced persons devote your time on these elementary points raised by a beginner like me. You have given plenty of combinations on this unpopular yoga. Only experience can give such lucid description on the combinations. It is one thing to read the Bare Act of Incometax- it is really a different experience to read the commentaries on the subject by Palkhivalas and Pithisarias. Really your mails on this science give good inspiration.Kindly keep encouraging us. With warm regards S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM --- On Wed, 8/4/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Re: Re: Adoption yoga in the case of child Wednesday, 8 April, 2009, 9:07 PM Dear Balasubramanium ji, Apart from what Bhaskar ji has said, you may look at these principles indicating adoption: 1. Mars and saturn conjunct, and moon in 5/7/9 from from these. The child born will be deserted by the mother. If Jupiter aspects moon, the child will live in comfort and have a long life. 2. Saturn in lagna and mars in fall in 7H, Sun in 10H and LL malefic amshas. The child is be deserted by the mother and hence a possible cause of being adopted. For both the above said yogas, it is separative influence on 4/10 houses, 4H being home and 10H is father's kutumb (2H from 9th). 3. Conjunction of moon-mars-sat- mer in one house is said to give two mothers and two fathers (an indication of adoption) 4. Moon in Gemini is said to give two mothers and can become an indication of adoption if other conditions prevail. Dasha at birth should indicate the above houses and their connection with 6/8/12 houses. D-4 and D-12 should also be checked. Dual signs play a sinificant role, if both sun and moon are in dual signs with other indications, it is a good pointer for adoption. Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Neelam ji, I am a newcomer to fora. I did not know you write so good. But if you do not mind, please add references to the rules you mention. -VJ =============== ============= , Balasubramaniam Ramachandran <balsu46 wrote: > > Dear Smt Neelamji, > > Thank you for your exhaustive reference on this adoption point. I had already an experience of reading your observations on Apsaras-Temptations- with so much clarity and wisdom of experience. This was also enhanced by Shri RRji and others. I am happy to see you experienced persons devote your time on these elementary points raised by a beginner like me. You have given plenty of combinations on this unpopular yoga. Only experience can give such lucid description on the combinations. It is one thing to read the Bare Act of Incometax- it is really a different experience to read the commentaries on the subject by Palkhivalas and Pithisarias. Really your mails on this science give good inspiration.Kindly keep encouraging us. > > With warm regards > S.R.BALASUBRAMANIAM > > --- On Wed, 8/4/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 > Re: Re: Adoption yoga in the case of child > > Wednesday, 8 April, 2009, 9:07 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Balasubramanium ji, > > > > Apart from what Bhaskar ji has said, you may look at these principles > > indicating adoption: > > > > 1. Mars and saturn conjunct, and moon in 5/7/9 from from these. The child > > born will be deserted by the mother. If Jupiter aspects moon, the child will > > live in comfort and have a long life. > > 2. Saturn in lagna and mars in fall in 7H, Sun in 10H and LL malefic amshas. > > The child is be deserted by the mother and hence a possible cause of being > > adopted. > > For both the above said yogas, it is separative influence on 4/10 houses, 4H > > being home and 10H is father's kutumb (2H from 9th). > > > > 3. Conjunction of moon-mars-sat- mer in one house is said to give two mothers > > and two fathers (an indication of adoption) > > 4. Moon in Gemini is said to give two mothers and can become an indication > > of adoption if other conditions prevail. > > > > Dasha at birth should indicate the above houses and their connection with > > 6/8/12 houses. D-4 and D-12 should also be checked. Dual signs play a > > sinificant role, if both sun and moon are in dual signs with other > > indications, it is a good pointer for adoption. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Vinay ji, I was trying to project the basic idea only, hence did not lay undue stress on the dictum itself and quoting it verbatim. Now that you’ve raised the question, I quote some references as below (please excuse for English phonetics). However, I suggest that we identify the operating principle for the applicability as we might find various versions and erroneous translations. Mandarabhyam panchamesteanga ke chandre matra tytyajyeta gurudrishte tu Chandra deerghayu (18, Sutika Tatwam, Jatak Tatwa) Paapdrishte chandre-anga ge-aste bhaume Matra tyakto vinashyati (19, Sutika Tatwam, Jatak Tatwa) Mandaryodharme sutasta sansthe santyajyate sheetruchau jananya sukhi chiraayu gururvikshitesyat papai ranayu sahitech drishte (Ch 5, Hora Makarand) Sandolagne paapdrishte kujeste, tyakto nashyatchar shanyo rathaye, Saumyerdrishte tatsamanasyye haste yati krurai ranya hastepyanayu (Ch 5, Hora Makarand) If Moon is in Gemini the native will have two mothers (Saravali) Conjunction of moon-mars-sat-mer in one house is said to give two mothers and two fathers (an indication of adoption). This is from an unknown source, but seen to work even through a connection of aspects. Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Hi, I wanted to know, if a child is being adopted, then how wil his / her chart effect the adoptive parent? considering the child is not with the biological parents from the birth and is being adopted by another couple (not a blood relation). Understanding the fact, every person is born with unique chart qualities which effects everybody in the family. What about the present family of the kid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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