[VRI] Fwd: Is astrology a science or a religious myth? in which aspect?

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Dear ones,

 

namaste to all.This thing of astrology is a

science or a myth is going on and on for decades and it may keep on

going as well since human mind is such that it wants to keep such things

going for its own survival! or amusement.Whether it is a science or not

we must agree that astrology is astrology.We should only be interested

in whether it works or not.Every astrologer who is his worth not in

money knows that it works.Hence i only request the learned ones to stop

this argument and concentrate on the research part of it.

 

regards,

 

gopi.

, Sunil Bhattacharjya

<sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

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> Dear Hareshji,

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> Namaste,

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> There are many people who may not believe in rebirth and the karma

theory because you cannot prove these to them. Many of us including you

believe in the karma theory and in rebirth. So also we believe in

astrology and that the natal charts tell us about past karma and in this

life we reap according to our past karma and the present karma together

and that is why some present karmas do influence on our past

karmaphal. In the Mahabharata also there umpteen instances ofÂ

omens (effect of the grahas and nakhsatras). Hindus believe in all

these. Astrology was there in the Hindu culture from the beginning and

it is mentioned in the Manu Smriti. Besides Hindus the otherÂ

religions and communities also have such beliefs. The christians believe

that Jesus Christ himself predicted that he would resurrect after death

and that he accordingly resurrected yet after his death he could

appear before some of his disciples in flesh amd blood. They also

believe

> that Jesus was born of a virgin mother and that Jesus could walk on

water. Christians also believe that the soul dies on death. Islam also

believes that the Moon was split into two parts by Prophet Muhammad and

that prophet Muhammad had once journeyed to some distant far-away

inaccessible regions in one night.

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> Mr. Kaul may call all these as nonsense. So leave him alone. He may

find some supporters like him in many fora and we need not bother about

that. But he is spreading some lies such as the Rashis are not there

in the Veda and Vedanga and that astrology was not known to the Hindus

in the ancient times. We sould be on our guard only against his such

mischievous lies.

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> Regards,

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> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

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> --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Avtar Krishen Kaul jyotirved wrote:

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> Avtar Krishen Kaul jyotirved

> [VRI] Fwd: Re: Is astrology a science or a religious myth? in

which aspect?

> vedic_research_institute

> Sunday, May 10, 2009, 9:28 AM

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, " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

jyotirved@ ..> wrote:

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> Shri Haesh Nathani ji,

> Namaskar!

> U have said, " Vedic astrology is science, which gives scientific

results based on placement of the nine planets in any of the twelve

houses or bhava’s in a horoscope. "

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> Well, that is a good joke but it is a cruel one since it is at the

cost of the sanctity of the Vedas! This joke has been going on for that

last several centuries. As such, pl. coin some new joke now since people

have become bored to death by such joke being repeated time and again!

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> I know u know it in your heart of hearts that the so called Vedic

astrology is actually the greatest fraud on the Vedas but u have no

courage to say so openly! Pl. do brush up your knowledge by going

through Rotary.doc in the files section

> Regards,

> A K Kaul

> , " Haresh \(Harry\)

Nathani " <haresh1405@ > wrote:

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> > Dear heathermarie. hayes heathermarie. hayes@

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> > Pls read this article written by me.

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> > What Vedic Astrology is all about?

> > Vedic astrology is science, which gives scientific results based on

placement of the nine planets in any of the twelve houses or

bhava’s in a horoscope. In good old days Rishi

Munni’s had divya gyan and complete knowledge of the

placement of all the planets through which they could predict and tell

everything about the past, present & future of an individual.

> > When a person is born at a particular day, time and place, he is

born with his past, present & future. Everybody wants to know about his

or her past, present & what his future will be. Even the Demigods were

keen to know the same and when they approached Lord Brahma, Brahmaji

replied that Demigods could know about their past, present & future

through Brahma and the manushya in this universe will know the same

through astrology. Our horoscope is our complete Bio Data in reality.

> > God gave us a human form or Shareer, but God said now a person in

this human form cannot live alone he needs a family to give him company,

so God gave him a family. Now God said that this person needs money/dhan

in order to sustain himself He gave him money/dhan. Now in order to grow

he needs bothers/sisters/ friends/contacts /relatives, so God gave him

younger siblings, friends, relatives, contacts.

> > Now with family, money, siblings, and friend’s man needs

some place where he can live, he needs some luxuries of life, so God

gave him house & luxuries. In good old days a bullock cart was a luxury

& now in present days it a two or four wheeler. Now when he has a house

to live he needs intelligence and children for the family to grow. God

gave him intelligence and capability to have children.

> > Now when God gave us human form, money, family, siblings, luxuries,

intelligence, children God also wanted to ensure that if person has all

the comforts of life there will be no difference between hell and heaven

so God gave him sufferings in the form of disease and enemies. Now if a

person has sufferings he needs someone to look after him and he will

also have some kind of lust to enjoy the senses so he gave him a spouse

to look after and support and satisfy our lust. God also gave us

a certain life span or longevity.

> > Now after getting all these things God gave us our destiny in the

form of fortune or bhagya and also gave us spiritual consciousness to

remember God. Then God said that manushya has to do some kind of karma

or activity to sustain oneself and the family, He gave us various ways

of executing our karma by engaging ourselves in working or doing

business and that is how we earn money by selecting the profession as

either working for someonelse(service) or doing our own profession. God

also gave gave us some losses to be borne by us as whatever we do is not

100% beneficial some part of it always goes as waste which is our loss.

> > In astrology we have twelve houses or bhava’s. From the

first house we see ourselves, from 2nd house we see our family and

money/dhan, and from 3rd house we see our siblings, friends, relatives,

contacts. From the 4th house we see our luxuries, from 5th house we see

our intelligence and our children, from 6th house we see our enemies and

our disease state, from 7th house our sexual relationships and our

spouse, from 8th house we see our longevity.

> > Our 9th house shows how fortunate we are and our devotional service,

from 10th house what kind of karma we will execute, from 11th house how

will we earn money by business or working and our 12th house says what

will be our losses and up to what extent.

> > There are seven planets and two shadow planets or nodes. Sun or

Surya is the king of all the planets who is also our father, Moon or

Chandra is the queen of all the planets who is also our mother. Mars or

Mangal is our defense minister or our physical strength, our younger

siblings and our friends. Mercury or Budh is the Prince of the king and

queen and is also our intelligence. Jupiter or Brihaspati is the teacher

or Guru will show us our direction, give us knowledge or gyan and also

show our prosperity.  Venus or Shukra is our greed, lust our

sexual relationships, spouse and Saturn or Sani is the servant who will

do all the work. Rahu & Ketu are the shadow planets who disguise

themselves in the form in which house they sit or with whichever planet

& house they sit.

> > Sun being king planet will do his task in 6 yrs, moon in 10

yrs, mars in 7 yrs, mercury in 17 yrs, Jupiter in 16 yrs, Venus in 20

yrs, Saturn in 19 yrs, Rahu in 18yrs & Ketu in 7 yrs. These are our maha

dasha’s.

> > This is what Vedic astrology is all about. Our horoscope tells us

what are our good times of life our bad times of our life and our

sufferings.

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> > Haresh Nathani

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> > Tele/Fax +91 22 24031469

> > E mail hareshgnathani@

> > Mumbai (India)

> > The author of this article is a professional Vedic Astrologer.

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